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Speaker 2: What challenges that you go through? How did you get

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Speaker 1: Nobody understands what it feels like when you literally fighting

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Speaker 1: Leading with your heart is a great thing, but leading

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Speaker 1: It's like a baby right here.

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Speaker 4: Seen every stage from the first time that Mike told

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Speaker 1: The life cycle. You know what I'm saying. So I

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Speaker 1: difficult time in business, you got to make sure that

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Speaker 1: you have the right people around you, which is why

437
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Speaker 1: it's so critical to have really good mentors, really good partnership's,

438
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Speaker 1: really good relationship, people that you can trust that you

439
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Speaker 1: can call in a crunch, because we all have a crunch.

440
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Speaker 1: It's okay. It don't matter what level you are in business.

441
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Speaker 1: We all got crunches. It's given cabin crunches. Okay, like

442
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Speaker 1: we all have corunches, but you got to know that

443
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Speaker 1: there's people in your ecosystem that you can call in

444
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Speaker 1: the midst of those crunches, that won't judge you, that'll

445
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Speaker 1: be there for you, and that'll be that show in

446
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Speaker 1: it that you need when you feel weak as an entrepreneur.

447
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Speaker 4: And that's why you're a vessel, because you show entrepreneurship

448
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 4: at his peaks, his valleys, and it's very loose and

449
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Speaker 4: people are with usaid with you.

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Speaker 3: I want it in this moment.

451
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Speaker 4: What's the most important thing you learned about yourself as

452
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Speaker 4: you're going as you come out of there.

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Speaker 1: You know, for a long time, the messaging was I'm

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Speaker 1: building a billion dollar company. I'm building a billion dollar company,

455
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Speaker 1: and that messaging has changed. Do I still want a

456
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Speaker 1: billion dollar company? Yes, But it's not the money that

457
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Speaker 1: I want. It's what the money can provide, Okay, the

458
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Speaker 1: piece that the money can provide, the freedom that the

459
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Speaker 1: money can provide. And there's no guarantee that money can

460
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Speaker 1: provide peace and freedom, right, but if sure can get

461
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Speaker 1: you cooks, right, I want to be able to take

462
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Speaker 1: my kids to school and be free of worry. I

463
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Speaker 1: want to travel around the world with my children. Yes

464
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Speaker 1: we make a lot of money, but we got a

465
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Speaker 1: lot of bills. Yes we do a lot of great things,

466
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Speaker 1: but I can't remember the last time that I had

467
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Speaker 1: an hour to just not think about, like what's next,

468
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like, as I evolve

469
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Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur, I'm working for the peace, you know

470
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I am working for the piece

471
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Speaker 1: because I've touched thirty three million dollars I've touched, you

472
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I've touched so much money in

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Speaker 1: my lifetimes that os have not seen. So I know

474
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Speaker 1: what it feels like. I know all of those things.

475
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Speaker 1: I know what it feels like to be in the

476
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Speaker 1: best room, every room. I'm man, y'all. Let y'all know

477
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Speaker 1: what it feels like.

478
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Speaker 4: Somebody say you've earned yours.

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Speaker 1: I've been there, done that, so it's almost like when

480
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Speaker 1: you get there, it's like, Okay, this is it. Now

481
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm focused on the things that really don't cost much peace, freedom,

482
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Speaker 1: being with my children, still having a successful business, but

483
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Speaker 1: those things having that level of peace, just taking a

484
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Speaker 1: bubble bath with some XM salt like that to me

485
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: these days is peace and I value that more. And

486
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Speaker 1: you know, entrepreneurship is still at the forefront. I could

487
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Speaker 1: not imagine myself doing anything else in the world, but

488
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Speaker 1: the intention always continues to elevate and it should as

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 2: What explain to us, all right, as you kid the

491
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Speaker 2: audience on bankruptcy. Obviously you made that video is being

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Speaker 2: very public that you foiled for bankruptcy. You made the

493
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Speaker 2: video which is super dope. Thank no, thank you. Give

494
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Speaker 2: us an explanation of bankruptcy because I still think that

495
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Speaker 2: people need to be educated on it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So bankruptcy, I'm gonna break it down like a

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Speaker 1: fifth career. Bankruptcy is if you go through if you

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Speaker 1: have more debts then you have revenue, and you are insolvent,

499
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Speaker 1: which means that either you can't pay your bills or

500
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Speaker 1: you have more bills than you have revenue, and your

501
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: bottom line is the color red and not green. That

502
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Speaker 1: means that you are insolvent. That means that, by textbook definition,

503
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Speaker 1: you can't pay your bills. Okay, So the US Bankruptcy

504
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Speaker 1: Code has provided you tools to be able to fix

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Speaker 1: the problem. Okay. So there's six main codes for people

506
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Speaker 1: if you need some relief in your business. So there's

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Speaker 1: a chapter seven if you want to close your business down,

508
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Speaker 1: like if you're done, you sell all your assets and

509
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Speaker 1: then you liquidate, you close the business you want to

510
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Speaker 1: walk away. That means that ninety nine percent of the time,

511
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Speaker 1: all of your debts are discharged. So that means that

512
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Speaker 1: you won't owe. And I'm not a lawyer, by the way,

513
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Speaker 1: but that means that the debts that you have, they

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Speaker 1: can be discharged in court. Okay. Chapter thirteen is where

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Speaker 1: you do a it's a reorganization, but it's a payment

516
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Speaker 1: plan and you have a certain amount of time to

517
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Speaker 1: pay your debt that you still have to pay, but

518
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Speaker 1: it's a certain threshold that if you are below that threshold,

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Speaker 1: you have a certain amount of time to pay. Chapter

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Speaker 1: eleven is where most businesses file or if you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of assets. So for me personally, I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of assets. I have a lot of properties. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so chapter eleven is if you make over. I think

524
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Speaker 1: the threshold is like one point three All the bankruptcy

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Speaker 1: attorneys get in the comments and correct me if I'm wrong,

526
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Speaker 1: but I believe it's like one point three million. Dollars.

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Speaker 1: If you have more than one point three million dollars

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Speaker 1: in assets, you have to file a Chapter eleven. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So I fil Chapter eleven. And what eleven is it's

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Speaker 1: a reorganization and you also get a certain amount of

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Speaker 1: time to pay it back. Okay. And then there's a

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Speaker 1: couple more, but the main ones. For the context of

533
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Speaker 1: this conversation, it's critical because it provides you the relief

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Speaker 1: that you need. Now, let's talk about the economy for

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Speaker 1: a second. Y'all are earned a lisia. You see it, right,

536
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Speaker 1: y'all talk about it all the time. All of our

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Speaker 1: biggest businesses in America have either filed or are filing

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Speaker 1: or are considering filing right now. And it has gotten

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Speaker 1: so common because the way the economy is set up

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Speaker 1: right now, people need relief. Businesses need relief. So I

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Speaker 1: won't say their names, but some of the biggest fast

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Speaker 1: food chains are filing Chapter eleven, right, some of the

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Speaker 1: biggest that there's pharmaceutical companies, they're retail chains. All of

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Speaker 1: these companies are filing for Chapter sevens or Chapter elevens.

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Speaker 1: But it's for relief for their business because they either

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Speaker 1: one can't afford to pay their bills, they're in solvent,

547
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Speaker 1: or they just need to reorganize, right, And sometimes you

548
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Speaker 1: need a reorganization so that you can really be able

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Speaker 1: to restructure the plan and get back to a space

550
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Speaker 1: in your business where you can become profitable. So, for

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Speaker 1: the people who are watching this, bankruptcy is a tool.

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Speaker 1: Your president has filed for bankruptcy. How many times six?

553
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Speaker 1: A lot of times? A lot, But bankruptcy is a tool.

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Speaker 1: And I am so excited about the opportunity to do

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Speaker 1: what we will do together because we get to educate

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Speaker 1: people in a way where they can understand it and

557
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Speaker 1: it's digestible. When we think about financial literacy, I'll be honest,

558
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Speaker 1: even me, when I started being an entrepreneur, an official entrepreneur,

559
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Speaker 1: there was so much stuff that I didn't understand. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, where do you get that information outside of y'all?

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00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: Right?

562
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Speaker 1: And you know, once you know that the tools are

563
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Speaker 1: out there for you, you will be so much better off.

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Speaker 4: I think we think bankrupcy and we think synonymous were broken.

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00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's furthest from.

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Speaker 4: The truth, right, And so that's why the education piece

567
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: is so vially important. Part of the couple questions when

568
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Speaker 4: they set the deadline on how the repaying instructure go.

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Speaker 4: Is that predicated by the courts on saying like you

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Speaker 4: have five years, four years?

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Speaker 3: How did that process want?

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Speaker 1: So the lawyer puts in a plan, right, based on

573
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Speaker 1: your finances, how much you make and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: So the lawyer presents a plan to the courts and

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Speaker 1: it gets approved. Okay, And at that plan approved, you

576
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Speaker 1: get you have. I haven't even gotten that far. I'm

577
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Speaker 1: in the beginning the phases, but I believe it's like

578
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Speaker 1: three to five years to pay that back, right. But

579
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Speaker 1: you remember, I filed because I have creditors from my

580
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Speaker 1: old co. So a lot of my that ninety nine

581
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Speaker 1: percent of the debt that I have personally is business

582
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Speaker 1: from the old company that I no longer own. So

583
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Speaker 1: you know, not I can't say too much, but some

584
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: of those debts can be discharged because I don't own

585
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,919
Speaker 1: that company and it was from the corporation because I

586
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: had a corporation. Bankruptcy is very intricate, which is why

587
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: it's critical to get an attorney. So if anybody who's

588
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: watching this wants to file for bankruptcy, you need an

589
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: attorney to be able to support you and guide you

590
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Speaker 1: through and help you make the best decisions. But I

591
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: would not change it for the world. I'm so glad

592
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Speaker 1: that I did it.

593
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Speaker 4: Part of the restructuring is changing leadershue your brand so strong,

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've been around it for so long, sanlely

595
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 4: oriented the difficult decisions after you made Yeah, nobody told

596
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Speaker 4: us about that part either, Right, Like, some of your

597
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: friends may not be quite of.

598
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Speaker 3: The division going forward. How do you manage what you do?

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Speaker 1: And it ain't even the friends that be the problem. Did

600
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Speaker 1: you say, I have hired so many people with great

601
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Speaker 1: resumes that can't even do the jump up? You want

602
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: to say what I'm saying, It's just like, so there's

603
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: a hybrid, right, Like you need expertise and a little

604
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: bit of hard like. You can't have one more than

605
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: the other because it'll never work. You got to have

606
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Speaker 1: a hybrid, and that has you know, it's been an

607
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Speaker 1: ongoing thing for me. I mean in business, as you

608
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: evolve the business, the needs of the business change, right,

609
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: just like your relationships. Who you were six years ago

610
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Speaker 1: and who you are today. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So as you grow and evolve, the people around you

612
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: have to grow and evolve with you, and if they

613
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: don't grow and evolve with you, then they cannot stay

614
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: and that gets uncomfortable. The problem that happens in business,

615
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: and I'm guilty of it too, is people stay past

616
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Speaker 1: their expiration date. So you look, people stay past their

617
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Speaker 1: expiration date. We as entrepreneurs oftentimes allow people who have

618
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Speaker 1: been in the trunches with us in the beginning to

619
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Speaker 1: stay past the expiration date because we as we me

620
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about myself, for a very long time, I

621
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Speaker 1: led with my heart, okay, and leading with your heart

622
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: is a great thing, but leading with your heart can

623
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Speaker 1: also make you go broke. You understand what I'm saying,

624
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: Like you got to lead with logic to hybrid is

625
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Speaker 1: what I said. And I've learned that over the years,

626
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Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, they can pick

627
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Speaker 1: up and go and you're still stuck with a business

628
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Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. So, as I grew up

629
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Speaker 1: and learn how to walk as an entrepreneur all over

630
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Speaker 1: again and fall on my face sometimes, I've learned some

631
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Speaker 1: very very valuable lessons that I'm applying this go around.

632
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Speaker 1: Do I still get it right? I have some hiccups

633
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: still because I'm not perfect, but at the end of

634
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Speaker 1: the day, I know that the mistakes and the lessons

635
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Speaker 1: from old co I'm getting to apply them here and

636
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so much better.

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Speaker 3: Off for it.

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00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: So when you filed for bankruptcy, right, is there a

639
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: psychological level of fighting that you gotta deal with, like

640
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Speaker 2: of like, Okay, I'm gonna trying to fight the pay

641
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: these build a petities built are I just this is overwhelming?

642
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: And then like when did you think, like when did

644
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Speaker 2: you come to that decision of like I can't fight

645
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: this anymore? Like I mean, I just gotta.

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Speaker 1: You'll me tell you a funny story. I've never said

647
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: this out up, but I'm gonna tell you something, so

648
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: i won't say their name, but uh, somebody who an entity,

649
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: not somebody, an entity who I did business with, reached

650
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Speaker 1: out to me and they said like, hey, like let's

651
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Speaker 1: meet up at Starbucks so that we can really like

652
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: talk this out. And I'm like, okay, cool. I'm just

653
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, make sure that we get things

654
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: in line. And I'm like, okay, cool, this is a

655
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: peace offering. We can talk. Obviously, you know that the

656
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: business was insolvent. Let's figure this out together and it

657
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: felt so real and it felt so genuine. Do you

658
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: know when I pulled up to that Starbucks and I

659
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: went inside, the person that I was looking for was

660
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: not there. Somebody tapped me, excuse me, are you Aisha Ko?

661
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: And I said yes, she said, you are being served.

662
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: So the whole time, I'm thinking that I'm going to

663
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: do business right to make a peace offering, and I

664
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 1: realized that like, oh damn, like I'm being served, and

665
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: I think that that was my final straw. I'm like,

666
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: this is too much, like I don't want to do

667
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: this some more. And I think that that's why I'm

668
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: made my decision and total transparency. Derek did not want

669
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: me to file why good you know, he did it

670
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: partially and he like, you don't have to do this

671
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: because my reason for filing bankruptcy was because of the

672
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 1: old code. Right. He's like, you don't have to do this,

673
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: like you could just get and I'm like, I'm tired,

674
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: like I don't I don't want to keep fighting a

675
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: battle that I'm losing. I just don't want to keep

676
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: doing that, you know what I'm saying. And this was

677
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: part two of that restructure. But when I did it.

678
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: At first, I was just like, oh, man, like, my

679
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: ego is in a way. I'll be honest, my ego

680
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: is in a way.

681
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Here it is.

682
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: I've done all of these great things that so many

683
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: people that look up to me. But then after a while,

684
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, if I'm dead, they gonna look look

685
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: somewhere else anyway. You know what I'm saying. So I

686
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: might as well, like take care of me and take

687
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: care of what I got going on. I'm the bounce

688
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: back queen. Okay, it's giving biggity biggoty bounce like I

689
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: can literally every time listen at a restaurant in Hall

690
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: of New York, corn on fire, car got repo, got

691
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: kicked out of my apartment, lost everything, we just got gurnished.

692
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: And then I created a hundred million dollar brand. So

693
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: if it can happen before and I lose it and

694
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: I get it back, imagine what's about to happen. Now

695
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. It's given forty four x

696
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: and you feel me like so, at the end of

697
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: the day, I realized that, yes, the headlines could be

698
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: the headlines, but I'm so confident in my skin and

699
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: who I am as an entrepreneur, and you can never

700
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: take away all the great things that I've done in

701
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: my career. So I did what I needed to do

702
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: with the tools that were provided to me. And I'm

703
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: so happy that I did it because, let me tell

704
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: you some of your favorites. These in my dms right

705
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: now saying hey, I want to file, can you connect

706
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: me with an attorney? And to me, I say, you

707
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: know what, that tells me that people are really following

708
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: my journey and learning from it, right. I mean, this

709
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: ain't a bankruptcy party here. Everybody file for bankruptcy. But

710
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: the fact that I get to teach other people just

711
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: by my experiences tell me that I'm doing.

712
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 3: The right thing.

713
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: Which which one do you feel the weight the heavyweight

714
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: of the critique, the scrutiny or the expectation that there

715
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: are people watching me and they need to learn from you, right,

716
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 4: Because there's two different things. Right, Like, there might be

717
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: that pressure like I got to keep going. I got

718
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: these people who believe what they're trying to follow that

719
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: path and this is that.

720
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: Housele had that pressure up more I did. I'ma be honest,

721
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't have that pressure no more. Because I'm flawed

722
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: and it's okay to be flawed. And you either gonna

723
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: love me or you're not gonna love me. You ever

724
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna learn from you or you're not, which is very

725
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: rare because anytime I'm in a room, if you're in

726
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: a room with me and you don't learn something, something's wrong.

727
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And like, so the pressure

728
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: that I used to have, it's just like this is

729
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: who I am, right, Like, I'm not polished, I am me,

730
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm raw on a tongue, and you are going to

731
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: learn something whether you like it or not, right, and

732
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: that pressure is just gone. I just have a level

733
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: of freedom. I don't look at the blogs. I don't

734
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: look at the comments, and even if I do look

735
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: at something, I left like, okay, they had no idea.

736
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: But it took for me to be in that dark

737
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: wrong to get there, to be on that display that

738
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: God put me on to because God is the visual

739
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: merchandiser to put me on that level or display, because

740
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: God said, I got to get you ready. I got

741
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: to get you ready for for everything that's about to come.

742
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: And if you're not ready for it, then you're gonna fold.

743
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: But if you're ready for it, if I get you

744
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: ready for now, ready for it now. It's gonna be uncomfortable,

745
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: but you are literally going to change the world. And

746
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what that looks like yet, but I'm like,

747
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: all right, gud, I surrender like I'm giving you the wheel,

748
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: and wherever you're gonna take me, I'm gonna go. And

749
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: in every room that I'm in, I'm gonna say your

750
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: name because you did for me what my eyes couldn't

751
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: even believe at first. You know what I'm saying. So

752
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: for the people who are going through a hard time,

753
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: if you've lost something, if you felt like giving up,

754
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: I literally God has literally stripped me the days when

755
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't figure things out, God came

756
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: back and said, I got you. And I'm talking about

757
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: the hardest of situations. God has solved all of my

758
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: hardest bowles. So I said, God, if you give me

759
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: through this, I'm going to exalt your name. I'm going

760
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: to say your name every single wound that I'm in,

761
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: and I do it every single time because I would

762
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: not be You know what I said, God always knew me.

763
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I just knew God. You know why, because entrepreneurship is

764
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: a very spiritual practice. You got to be connected to something.

765
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: You got to be connected to a source. And because

766
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: I went through everything that I went through in business,

767
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: being connected to that source is the biggest flex out

768
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: of this whole situation. And I'm proud of that.

769
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: Amen, man holds down. That's the highest praise.

770
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: And man, yeah, I ain't know what to say. That's

771
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: the colluction plate, actual flight. So, I mean, it doesn't

772
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: affect you the same way it might affect other people.

773
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: But what do you think about, just in general, how

774
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 2: social media has become so toxic and it's almost like

775
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: people take enjoyment and seeing somebody else's down for or

776
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: proceed down for troubles, trial and tribulations. That's become content.

777
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: White people make content around that. And see I told

778
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: you like da da da da, Like what is your

779
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: thoughts on how our culture seems to deal with these things?

780
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we got a crab in a barrel culture.

781
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, we see it. People don't want to

782
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: talk about It's true. Sometimes it's not everybody. There's a

783
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: pocket of people that are supportive that say, hey, I

784
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: got your deck whatever you need. Right, Some people thought

785
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: I lost my main home. They're like, Pinky, I got

786
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: a townhouse if you need somewhere to stay. There is

787
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: a trying to take and it was her and she

788
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: texted me like, heck out a townhouse if you need

789
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: some what to say. But there's a pocket of people

790
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: that do, so I don't want to isolate our whole

791
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: community like everybody. That's not the truth. There are people

792
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: who actually root for you, that are supportive of you,

793
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: that want to be there for you in your most

794
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: difficult times. But what I also understand is that if

795
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: you look at the economy right now, there's a lot

796
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: of people in the world that are said, there's a

797
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: lot of people in the world that are unhappy with

798
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: their situations. They wake up every single day and go

799
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: to a job that they hate, but they got to

800
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: keep the job because this is how they pay their

801
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: bills and they take care of their family, you know

802
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And a lot of people are living

803
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: paycheck to paycheck, right and the dreams that they had

804
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: they ain't never follow. Okay, so oftentimes they're projecting their

805
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: negativity on other people. But I realized when I've gone

806
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: through the most humiliating experience professionally as an entrepreneur, and

807
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: how it made me feel after that. It was almost

808
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: like all right, I went to that. Okay, cool. So now,

809
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: like I'm not tuned into what people say because I'm

810
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: so sure within myself who I am. They don't you

811
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want to say. I'd be laughing, like, Okay,

812
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: whatever it is, what it is. Everybody's not like that though, Right.

813
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: It takes a special kind of fixed skin, and you

814
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: can't pay for that, Like you can't go get no

815
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: botox for that, you know what I'm saying, Like, ain't

816
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: no surgery for that. Like you really just got to

817
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: go through the trenches. But when you come out on

818
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: the other side, you understand that the people who know

819
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: know and that people will get it. Get it. Y'all

820
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: are my peers. We're in the same class. Y'all get it.

821
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: You get it. Everybody else don't get it, And it's

822
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: not necessarily for them to get it. But it's our

823
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: responsibility to continue to educate.

824
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: They gotta live to us a little bit, right, Yeah,

825
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 4: I want to talk about what's happening now.

826
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 3: They're getting your peachs.

827
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're now part of Housewives of Elena, which is

828
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 4: interesting because I don't think I'm guilty.

829
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: All I've watched it.

830
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: I watched Okay, my model, she carried my wife. I

831
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: don't think I I've ever seen anybody like you on

832
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: the show.

833
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen anybody like me either, And.

834
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: I'm excited for that because we know you and again

835
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: the people that watched your journey and watch you becoming

836
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: an entrepreneur, watch all the things that we spoke about,

837
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 4: and now you're going into that world.

838
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 3: Talk to us.

839
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: Please, I don't know what to say, you know, I'm

840
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: actually very excited. I'm excited because outside of my two

841
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: best friends Chris Deuincierra I and I'm not I'm usually

842
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: around men. I do, I do good bit I always

843
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: work best with I don't know, I just I have

844
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: a darmin personality, so I always work best with men.

845
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm overly confident, you know. You know I go so

846
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: to be around a group of women was very different

847
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: for me. A group of women that are not in

848
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: the same industry almost was also very different from me.

849
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: But I'm happy that I'm different. Different, it's good. Different

850
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: is not a bad thing. And I think what makes

851
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: a really good reality show is diversity, right, Like diversity

852
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: and personality, the diversity in character, diversity and experience, because

853
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: it needs to be somebody for everybody. So I know

854
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: that I got my audience, Okay, Like I'm thinking that

855
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: my people would be and I'm excited for people to

856
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: be able to see me uncover the highs and lows

857
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: of entrepreneurship. Remember I'm an open book at this point,

858
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: so it's just like people to really get to see

859
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: how I've navigated business, the beautiful side of it, the

860
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 1: hard side. They'll see my family, my life style, my marriage.

861
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: You know, me and Derek, we don't really post a

862
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: lot of our marriage online, but they get to really

863
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: see that in real time, Like that's my best friend,

864
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: Were the same person? You know what I'm saying, Like

865
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: you think that I put my stuff like he is,

866
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: y'all know, Like Derek is very intellectual and like people

867
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: get to see that side, and I'm excited about that.

868
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: And I know that the audience that I build on

869
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 1: this show is bigger than arguing at a brunch table.

870
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like were talking about things

871
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: that matter, you know what I'm saying, And I'm looking

872
00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: forward to that.

873
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: So will you go into this show? Are you going

874
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: into a thinking this is a branding opportunity for me

875
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: to further the audience to build business. What's your thought

876
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 2: process on actually signing up for a reality show? Like

877
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: are you or you just looking at like, well, how

878
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: are you thinking? Like about that?

879
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: If I sat here and told you no, that's not

880
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: the case, I'd be lying. You'd be like, you're a

881
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: stop line, right. Somebody else would be like, yeah, no,

882
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: that's I just came because I wanted to make new

883
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: girl friends. Yeah, I'm excited about making new girlfriends. But

884
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: when you think about the leverage that platforms like these bring, yes,

885
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: you want to meet new people, but it's also an

886
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to build and grow whatever it is that you have,

887
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: And it's also an opportunity to continue to raise awareness

888
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur. And it's also an opportunity to be

889
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: able to do something different. So my reasoning wasn't just

890
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: one thing like I just want to rip branding and

891
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: like promote my business. I want to do something different.

892
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: I want to I want to see how could I

893
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: mesh not even mesh, that's not the word. How can

894
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: I take up space in a room full of others,

895
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 1: success of women, and we do things that the world

896
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: is ever seen.

897
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: Does that work? Housewives? Why does that?

898
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: Even what you left?

899
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: You're always thinking the same thing about to ask you?

900
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 3: That's great?

901
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

902
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'm assuming when it first started the show was

903
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: based around housewives, but nobody on the show was a housewife.

904
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: So why do they like? Is that just like a

905
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: name of the show.

906
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I got a coat, executive producer, and

907
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: ask that question and get back to you. However, so

908
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: I can always speak for me and mine. Okay. So

909
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm very married, and I have a family, and we

910
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: have a house, and I am not my definition a housewife.

911
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: I still get up and I go to work. I

912
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: still up and I get the chicken. They'll pun intended. Okay,

913
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: But a housewife in the quintessential definition, okay, really means that.

914
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: What really means that you embody a level of energy

915
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: where you are the recipient of a lifestyle that everybody

916
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: is not afforded. Okay, And I'm the recipient of a

917
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: lifestyle that everybody is not affording. My husband is very successful,

918
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm very successful in business. Together we have We're not

919
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: even forty yet, and we've done more things than other

920
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: thirty eight year olds that I've ever seen in my life. Right,

921
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: So you know the reason for why they created the show, obviously,

922
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: you know they had their reasons. But for me coming

923
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: on the show, being a part of Real House Ees

924
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, the goal is to not work one day.

925
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: The goal is to one day sell my company and

926
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: have an exit, just like most founders do. But I'm

927
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: excited about being a part of this platform. Bravo is incredible,

928
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: NBC Universal is incredible, and I've made some really good

929
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: friendships so far. So like, I'm happy about that.

930
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: I was gonna it's crazy because we were thinking the

931
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 4: same thing. I was actually looking at it as there might.

932
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 4: You're a wife. You have obviously a husband in the

933
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 4: family at home, a part of you as a housewife, right,

934
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: but that doesn't define who you are. And that's how

935
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 4: I was trying to think of this is like another

936
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 4: aspect of fool Pinky is in a sense. I was

937
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: wondering about the friendship so because when I see you,

938
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 4: it always is with Derek, and you do have counterparts

939
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: in your field and kind of parts throughout the city.

940
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: But you've got big personality, big energy.

941
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: How was that?

942
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: You know, Like initially, because I'm assuming that most of

943
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: the cast knows who you are, it's not that freaking

944
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 4: with you.

945
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: What was that? Like?

946
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: I stuck up a lot of air? Do you know

947
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? When I say that I suck up

948
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: a lot of air? Everybody can't handle that. But what

949
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: I will say is, like, for example, Kay and I

950
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: k Michelle. Her and I have got really really close

951
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: through this process. She's my sorority sister, and she's an

952
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: intellect like me. She's a thinker, and I don't know

953
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: that a lot of people really know that like she

954
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: she's a thinker like me. So we've gotten close. I

955
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: love Shamia Down, love Kelly Down. We like Portia. But

956
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: but I'm you know, every one of them have things

957
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: that are cool, right, like one thing about me? I

958
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: ain't no here if I see something good and you like,

959
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: O got cool? Like I like your sple, I like

960
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: your wag. I can't say that about everybody, but for

961
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: the most part, there's you know, there's this a talent

962
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: or something special that I see and mostly all of

963
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: them that I think together makes a dynamic life. Mostly

964
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: all of them. They said, if you have nothing nice

965
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: to say, nothing at all. Okay, don't say nothing. I'm

966
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: a professional.

967
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: This is gonna be good.

968
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I mean, you know, I really value

969
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: the relationships of the entire group because what I've learned

970
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: is everybody going through stuff. Okay, everybody is going through something,

971
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: and you'll be able to attach yourself to one of

972
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: these women on the show for whatever reason, whatever your

973
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: reason is, And I think that is going to be

974
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: a really good season, probably one of the best.

975
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: Last year when you was on our show and you

976
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 2: was going through the restruction of your company, you talk

977
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: about lessons that you learned as far as like spending

978
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: too much money, hiring the wrong people, you know, the

979
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: management at like it, a variety of different business lessons

980
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: that you learned from that situation that was helpful for

981
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: other people in business. What lessons like we're at the

982
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 2: bankruptcy park, but what lessons have you learned from not

983
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: only going through the bankruptcy, but things that could have

984
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: that could have been prevented or could have caused to

985
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: the bankruptcy, Like what have you learned from that.

986
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 1: You can have a Bentchley that is a twenty twenty five.

987
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: And it can have all of the trinkets, it can

988
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: have all the frills, it could be a nice vehicle.

989
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: But if you don't have no engine in that Bentley,

990
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: then where you're gonna go you cannot move. So what

991
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: I've learned is that you are only as good as

992
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: your operations. So when I first started out in business,

993
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was enough to just be a popular brand.

994
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: But somebody needs to be managing and operating the business operations. Okay,

995
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: somebody has to operate and like literally be the conductor

996
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: on the train. And if you don't have the right

997
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: conductor on the train, it'll move. But eventually something that's

998
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Let me give you another example. You ever

999
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: been on an airplane before? Had you ever been on

1000
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: an airplane before? Do you know that there's a several

1001
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: point inspection that takes place before that airplane can take off.

1002
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: If you have the wrong operators putting their hands on

1003
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: that plane while that inspection is taking place, god forbid,

1004
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: what can happen because the right things haven't taken place

1005
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: before that plane is taken off. So operations is critical

1006
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: to having a successful business. It don't matter how popular

1007
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: you are, It don't matter how many people love you. You

1008
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: need to have somebody oots on the ground, making sure

1009
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: that your labor is good, making sure that your cabs

1010
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: are good, making sure that you have the right vendors,

1011
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: because what often happens, especially in the restaurant space, like

1012
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: you can have these vendors and they charging you a

1013
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: premium price because you don't know that you can get rebates,

1014
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: or you don't know that you can get the best

1015
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: price in or they think that you're a mom and

1016
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: pop company, so we don't have to give them the

1017
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: right kickbacks. And now your food cost is higher, and

1018
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: now your bottom line you ain't making no money and

1019
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: you want to rewin, but it's because you're giving all

1020
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: of your money to these distribution companies, you know what

1021
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1022
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: So like, well, even if you're doing an event and

1023
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: somebody can exactly what they paying for this, paying for that,

1024
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: and before you know it, you know, it ran up

1025
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars on.

1026
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, and not I do fourteen

1027
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: stores in the height of the pandemic. Okay, fourteen stores.

1028
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: Every store costs between eight hundred thousand and a million

1029
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: dollars every store, okay, and because it was in the

1030
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: height of the pandemic, supply chain was crazy, inflation everything.

1031
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: But what I learned in business is people will take

1032
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: advantage of you if you do not know. People will

1033
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: take advantage of you if you do not know. And

1034
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: sometimes it's intentionally and sometimes it's not intentionally. There are

1035
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,240
Speaker 1: people who are predatory when it comes to green entrepreneurs.

1036
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: And we all start off green, right, Like I had

1037
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: to fall on my face a lot of times. I

1038
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: didn't have a private equity uncle or a father. My

1039
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: father did twenty two years in prison. Was he smart, absolutely,

1040
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: but he was behind bars. So I didn't have that

1041
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: person on a day to day telling me what to do,

1042
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: what not to do. You need to give phantom equity,

1043
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: or you need to do a series this, or do

1044
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: a series that, or like you don't need to get

1045
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: this big of a discount. Like I had to learn

1046
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: at the hard way, and we didn't even have AI

1047
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: when I was trying to do it. Okay, that's new.

1048
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: If I had AI, n out of the straight and

1049
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So operations, I could give

1050
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: you all the little mini lessons, but the umbrella of

1051
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: operations is really what covers everything else.

1052
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 2: And would you would you advise like one probably got

1053
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: COO or have like different people that's like this person's

1054
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: job is that, that person's job is that.

1055
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: So it depends on what stage of business that you're in,

1056
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: because a COO is not cheap. So if you're a

1057
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: business making three hundred thousand dollars a year, you can't

1058
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: afford a COO because that's their salary, you understand what

1059
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But if you're making two million, three million,

1060
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: four million dollars a year, you absolutely need a C

1061
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: suite level COO. Right, I'm gonna be very clear. I'm

1062
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: gonna give you'all some non traditional advice. A COO level

1063
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: that has proven ability to scale a business like yours

1064
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: because they've done it before, or somebody who's younger that's

1065
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: super hungry because you know, you ever see those people

1066
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: that are super hungry. They young, but they're super hungry

1067
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: and they worked in every single position in the business,

1068
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: so they know the business. No, they don't have it

1069
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: on their resume, but they're so hungry and they've learned

1070
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: the business because they put their hands in it. But

1071
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 1: if you are growing an enterprise. You need the level

1072
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: of expertise, but not just expertise on paper. You need

1073
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: the person that really is still willing to be boots

1074
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: on the ground, because sometimes when you get these C

1075
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: suite executives, they don't feel like they need to be

1076
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: on the ground. You know that they don't feel like

1077
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: they need to be on the ground. I'm guilty of

1078
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: a shit. When the business got to a certain stage,

1079
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, by the agreement with my former leadership,

1080
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to be thought leadership. I'm going to be

1081
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: the Ronald McDonald. I'm going to do all of the

1082
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: press and the marketing and the branding. I stop getting

1083
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: in the field. But now guess who win the field.

1084
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm back in the field. You see my pop pups

1085
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: I lines down the block because I'm back in the field.

1086
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm touching every sandwich. But it's almost like I'm that

1087
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: baby again, learning my business all over again. And I'm

1088
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: happy about that because now, well I'm listen what jay

1089
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: Z said. If you can do it once, you can

1090
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: do something about You can do it once, you can

1091
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: do it twice. Like I've done it before, I can

1092
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: do it all over again. But that operations piece, man,

1093
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: that's the most critical, That is the most critical.

1094
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 4: Is that a trait that you see in entrepreneurs today

1095
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 4: that you that they're lacking, right, Like your story is

1096
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: full of brasilience. I feel like people, a lot of

1097
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 4: people who create business isn't during the pandemic?

1098
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 3: What else you man, they're gone? It is?

1099
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 4: Is it the lack of resilience organization operations? What was

1100
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 4: your take on against this era of entrepreneurial.

1101
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: Yea, there's a they didn't have a business. Yeah, no

1102
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 2: real bisiness.

1103
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: There was a lot. I agreed that there was no

1104
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: real business. There's a couple of things. It's a couple

1105
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: of variables here, Like you know, a lot of small

1106
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: businesses they have great ideas, right, but no structural foundation

1107
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: at all, not even like five percent, right. So I

1108
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: be having to remind myself sometimes when I talk to

1109
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: newer stage entrepreneurs that there's a lot of things that

1110
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: they don't know, right, And ignorance is not less right,

1111
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: And it's not even always their fault, right, It's because

1112
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: we haven't always had the access to the information, which

1113
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: is why y'all platform is so critical. And I admire

1114
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: y'all so much because what y'all are doing for the culture,

1115
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: nobody else has ever done, right, So we need more

1116
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: of y'all, right to continue to educate in a way

1117
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: where it doesn't feel so high level that entrepreneurs can understand.

1118
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: Because most entrepreneurs startup founders. We're usually visionaries, right, like

1119
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: most of us right, where the creatives aren't usually the

1120
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: real technical like the creatives the victim. The creatives are

1121
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: usually the ones that have the really big imagination. Well

1122
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: I speak for myself anyway, like I got a really

1123
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: big imagination, but operations this is not my thing. It's

1124
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: just not I can do it. But like I don't

1125
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: get up in a worl again like operations, I want

1126
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: to do it. So I know my ministry, so I

1127
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: know that I need to bring in an operations person

1128
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: that can do the things that I don't love to do.

1129
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: But I also need to keep my eyes on it,

1130
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think that when

1131
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs understand that, yes, for a certain period of time,

1132
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: you won't have to do HR. Yeah you're gonna have

1133
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: to be an account Yeah you're gonna have to do

1134
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: all of those things. But eventually you are going to

1135
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: get emotionally, mentally, and physically stretched trying to be all

1136
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: of these things in your business, that your business will

1137
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: never be able to grow.

1138
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: And that's a good point. I also think that the

1139
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: social media thing is that a gifted a curse for

1140
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: a lot of entrepreneurs because it's allowed people to skip steps. Yes,

1141
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 2: so it allows you to make money from your Instagram page, right,

1142
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: a good idea, a good look, and then before you

1143
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: know it, you think that you have a business, but

1144
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: you really don't because you never had to go through

1145
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: the stages of actually building the foundation of what a

1146
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: business actually entails. So you're making revenue and psychologically you

1147
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: have a lot of confidence because you're like, well, I'm

1148
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: an entrepreneur, I'm a business. And then as soon as

1149
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 2: you hit a speed bump, you fall a car because

1150
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: the house is built with no foundation.

1151
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: And you and get no team right, hey, yeah, no

1152
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: the team.

1153
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: You have no infrastructure, you have no no plan in place,

1154
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: you have nothing. And I think a lot of people,

1155
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 2: I think that was a problem for a lot of people.

1156
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: During the pandemic, it was good selling for a lot

1157
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 2: of people on the Internet side. And then when things changed.

1158
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: A lot of people realized or they maybe they didn't realize,

1159
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: but they they got taken under because they never really

1160
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: figured out what a business, what running a business really is.

1161
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the truth. You know, before I had my restructure,

1162
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: I had my restructure seven years in business. Restaurants don't

1163
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: even last three years. The average restaurant does not last

1164
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: three years. So it is so important for you to

1165
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: have that team for you to understand business. Now that

1166
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: I know what I know, my PSA to every entrepreneur

1167
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: is you have the tools and the resources. I just

1168
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: got a new friend and her name was Claudisher. Y'all

1169
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: know what it is. Cord, Yes, Cord Cole Okay, Claudiesia.

1170
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: And I literally immerse myself in research, like I'm the

1171
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: ultimate researcher because I want to learn. I want to

1172
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: get better. I want to be the best. I'm franchising now,

1173
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: so like I've fallen in love with the franchise business.

1174
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: So like I'm researching all of the things and I'm

1175
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: being a student of the game all over again. And

1176
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: you know it sounds cliche, but you have to be

1177
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: a student of a game because you will get left.

1178
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: Your business will leave you if you are not a

1179
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: student of a game. I've been there. I know what

1180
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: it feels like. When I came back in my company

1181
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, I didn't even know where nothing was.

1182
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know where the files were. I didn't know

1183
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: that I was a new hire in my own business.

1184
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: Can you imagine people telling me where stuff is in

1185
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: my own business because I wasn't running my company. That

1186
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: is the most embarrassing thing in the world. So yes,

1187
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: I can. I could do press in marketing all day long,

1188
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: but I trusted those to run my business, and I

1189
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: took my hands off the wheel. So this time around,

1190
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: hands on wheel, third eye open, and just making sure

1191
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: that I'm putting the proper pieces in place, even through

1192
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: the hiccups, so that my business can continue to sustain.

1193
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: But what I know for sure is that I have

1194
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: a weather proof brand. And if you have a weather

1195
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: proof brand, here it is. I'm all over Beyonce, the internet,

1196
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: and I'm getting so many franchise requests every single day.

1197
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: People still love my brand. People still want to franchise

1198
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: my business and help me scale it. So I said,

1199
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: I got something special. I have something special, So what

1200
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: are you going to do with this level of specialness.

1201
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: And I believe that we all had that gift in

1202
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: our businesses. We just have to be able to unlock it.

1203
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about a question.

1204
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: Come on, let's go. We can do it slightly Vegan

1205
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: and Ghana, We're we talking about hello, so let's let's.

1206
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 2: Talk about what we're going to do together. Since collaboration

1207
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: is key. You can't on with the idea you want

1208
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: to you want to inform people.

1209
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: Sure, So I think everybody at this point has a

1210
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: scene my Miss Rachel parody video where I was teaching

1211
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: bankruptcy to grown adults and I made a joke I said,

1212
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta put it on eight o weeights so

1213
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: people can understand. But then when I was looking at

1214
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: the comments, I realized and shout out to Wall Street Tramper.

1215
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: He said something me was like, yo, like this is

1216
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: really a thing, Like entrepreneurs will benefit off of it.

1217
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: So it had my mind going, and I'm like, I

1218
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: need to do like an online YouTube series that teaches

1219
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: adults financial literacy but at a fifth grade level, right,

1220
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: because you gotta show people that, like, the information is there,

1221
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna make you digest it in a way

1222
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: where like you never knew that you can learn it

1223
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 1: and it can be fun and hip at the same time.

1224
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: So I'm so excited to be able to partner with

1225
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: my fellow guys right here. Oh I like how to

1226
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: Scream with White. I love it on this YouTube digital series.

1227
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: And the reason why I'm excited about doing this with

1228
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: y'all is because y'all really own the culture when it

1229
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: comes to financial literacy for our people, right, And I

1230
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: have gone through so many things in business that I

1231
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,959
Speaker 1: would like to call myself a student who's an expert. Right.

1232
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of challenges, but I've also had

1233
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: a lot of growth opportunities. And with those things, I

1234
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: know that that level of education will have a lot

1235
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: of entrepreneurs. So you put that in a pot with

1236
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: Troy and Mishall and it's a level of success that

1237
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: is really going to be so impactful. So it's called

1238
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: Pinky Piggy Bank, and we are going to be teaching

1239
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: entrepreneurship through music. And you know, I'm going to use

1240
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 1: our favorite songs that we grew up to and translate things.

1241
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Were talking about trusts, We've talked about bankruptcy already. We're

1242
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: talking about LLCs and safe notes and equity and cat tables,

1243
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: all of the things that a lot of people don't understand.

1244
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm putting it in a song.

1245
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 4: I mean when you we got the text message, whoever

1246
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 4: could call me first call me? And when I heard

1247
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 4: these segment in your voice, I'm like, oh, this is

1248
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 4: something special.

1249
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: It was easy. I'm like, yo, shy, this is gonna

1250
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: be easy. Yeah, ping gonna do this. Let's do it.

1251
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 3: Talk to them about the details when they can see it.

1252
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So our first episode is dropping April seventeenth, and

1253
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. I ain't gonna tell you how

1254
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: the song. Y'all gonna diele me, but it's gonna be great, man,

1255
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: because every week you will be able to learn something

1256
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: new about business. So now there is no excuse so

1257
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs can say, well I didn't know, Yes you did,

1258
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: because I put in a wreck. I put in a

1259
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: a eights okay, And we just go and educate them assters.

1260
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 1: I feel like we collectively have a platform to educate

1261
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: and learn, and one thing that I will say about

1262
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: all three of us is that we do that very

1263
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: very well. And I think this is just another vertical

1264
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: of doing what we do best, and I'm excited to

1265
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 1: be in partnership with y'all and then we're gonna make

1266
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: a lot of measure head.

1267
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: That's the only way. Thank you for trusting us with

1268
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: your vision, working with us. Welcome to the network. But

1269
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: I think it's just important just to spread the message

1270
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: to many people as possible, because people really look up

1271
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: to you as for entrepreneurship. So you can look up

1272
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: to somebody and learn from everything that they've done correctly,

1273
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: every mistake that they've made, everything, like you know, that's

1274
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 2: really like mentorship and real time. That's that's gonna be okay, sure, yeah,

1275
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm mistake.

1276
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like it's been your ecosystem. Okay, give me

1277
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: that data listener.

1278
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1279
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 4: I mean that it goes back to the idea of

1280
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: like I'm turning this into something bothertive right when.

1281
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 3: You did it, when we spoke to you, like I

1282
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 3: was like super uncomfortable about doing a rapping.

1283
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 4: I ain't really my thing, and then I put it

1284
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 4: up in like a million views.

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Speaker 3: Oh this is how people need to learn.

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Speaker 1: That's how they need to learn. So I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm paying for so you know, I always said I

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Speaker 1: wanted to be a rapper. Here we go, here we go,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna make it fun. It's gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just for adults. Kids can learn from

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Speaker 1: it too, you know what I'm saying. So there's so

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Speaker 1: many ways and places that this can go. And I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about us activating it, investeds and people getting to

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Speaker 1: see it in real time. But it's gonna be good

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Speaker 1: and and and so many people are going to be

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Speaker 1: able to be inspired about what it is that we're building.

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Speaker 2: Well, there you have it. Thank you again for your time.

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Speaker 2: Anything else that you want to let that lets people know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk to every single entrepreneur. I

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Speaker 1: don't look at the camera, Okay, every single entrepreneur that

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Speaker 1: is watching this program. You are looking at somebody who

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Speaker 1: has cried, who has died, who has lost it all,

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Speaker 1: gotten it back, been compromised in business, boarded, business back restructuring.

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Speaker 1: I'm like a cat, I got non lives. So you

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Speaker 1: were looking at somebody who has experience at loss, but

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Speaker 1: you're also looking at somebody who has experience and faith. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the difference between a winner and a loser is

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Speaker 1: that a winner never quits So if you feel like

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Speaker 1: throwing at the towel, rethink it again, do something different,

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Speaker 1: pivot a little bit. Because what it is that you

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Speaker 1: are working on, God put it in your spirit for

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Speaker 1: a reason, and you gotta trust your gut even when

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Speaker 1: it feels uncomfortable, even when that thing feels dead. My

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Speaker 1: brother in law has been in the hospital since December

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Speaker 1: twenty eighth. When he went to the hospital, he had

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Speaker 1: a stroke, a massive stroke, and he did not open

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Speaker 1: up his eyes for ten days. And I watched people.

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Speaker 1: They didn't say it, but I could feel the energy

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Speaker 1: of defeat around him because they didn't know if this

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Speaker 1: man was going to open up his eyes. And then

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Speaker 1: eventually he started to open up one eye, and that

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Speaker 1: he opened up the next eye, and then eventually he

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Speaker 1: started twiddling his fingers, and then he eventually started writing,

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Speaker 1: and now he's starting to talk. But I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: that because God will give you your motion back, no

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Speaker 1: matter what it is that you've lost, you will get

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Speaker 1: your motion back every single time. Even when people are

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Speaker 1: surrounded around you and they think that you're dead, they

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Speaker 1: think that you can't hear that they're talking and they're criticizing.

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Speaker 1: God will give you everything that you lost, he will

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Speaker 1: give it back times ten. I'm a living witness, and

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Speaker 1: it compelled me to share that with any entrepreneur going

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Speaker 1: through a hard time because I get the messages, but

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Speaker 1: just no, do not give up. God will give you

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Speaker 1: everything that you lost and you'll get it back. Thomson

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Speaker 1: always leave us.

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Speaker 2: With an emotional message that's right on time for the

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Speaker 2: times that we're in. So I don't even know say

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Speaker 2: after that, I guess, thank you. Tune in, Tune in

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Speaker 2: the Real Housewives, tune in sav the show that are

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Speaker 2: gonna be doing on YouTube the series, Tune into everything

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Speaker 2: Sloody Vegan, Big Dave's Cheese Steaks, you know you guys.

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Speaker 2: Anything that we can do to support that's easy. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: once again, thank you for always being there for us.

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Speaker 2: We don't take it lightly. You don't greatly appreciate your

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Speaker 2: support and everything that we've been able to work office show.

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Speaker 2: That means Walksmiths as well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. Let's do make some aging

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Speaker 1: because there.

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Speaker 2: You have it all right, guys, Thank you Rocks for

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Speaker 2: see you next week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks