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Speaker 1: Big show coming up today. I gotta hit on Jon

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Speaker 1: Gruden and Chip Kelly because I think they have a

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Speaker 1: Gruden and Chip Kelly because I think they have a

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Speaker 1: little something in common. And when you look around football

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Speaker 1: and the explosion of money in the league, ton of

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Speaker 1: coaches make a ton of money. Bill Belichick, no one

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Speaker 1: those got Andy Reid's been making huge money forever, Dabbo Sweeney,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Urban Meyer, all these coaches. The one thing

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Speaker 1: they all have in common, though, is they never left

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Speaker 1: the industry, so their edge. While they kept making money,

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Speaker 1: they never kind of left the bubble of football and

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Speaker 1: just kind of got a feel for, Wow, there's more

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Speaker 1: out there. I don't need to kind of work his hard. Wow,

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Speaker 1: you can do other things in life than just sit

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Speaker 1: at the office seven. And I think when you see

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Speaker 1: John Gruden and Chip Kelly, John Gruden this offseason, these

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Speaker 1: last ten days for John Gruden have been an absolute

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Speaker 1: train wreck. I mean an absolute utter train wreck. Trading

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Speaker 1: for the nation to see that Khalil Mack did not

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Speaker 1: want to be a Raider. That's just unequivocally false. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Then to the Monday night football game where he just

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Speaker 1: looked lost in the second half. Then the following day

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Speaker 1: after an embarrassing loss, signing Martavius Bryant, who he had

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Speaker 1: previously traded for a third round pick and and cut

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Speaker 1: before the season, very al Davis like move. And then

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly, who one of the more hype coaches in

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Speaker 1: recent memory. When I was scouting, I went through the

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Speaker 1: University of Oregon. When I was with the Eagles, it

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Speaker 1: was before we hired him, and the program was absolutely humming.

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Speaker 1: He was the apple of everyone's eye, not just in

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Speaker 1: And then over the next five years, think about this

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Speaker 1: well really quick. With Gruden, Chip has a little different path.

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Speaker 1: For eight nine years, John Gruden called Monday at football games.

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Speaker 1: After he had utterly failed with Tampa Bay was courted

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Speaker 1: by every major university in NFL team for five six

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Speaker 1: done anything over that time, Right, he had not been coaching.

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Speaker 1: Everyone was getting on their knees and kissing his ass,

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Speaker 1: getting probably a false sense of reality, you know, and

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Speaker 1: think about this. I know people that work in other

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Speaker 1: that his endorsement deals through Corona were astronomically high. And

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Speaker 1: John Gruden loves to hang his hat on. I would

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Speaker 1: coach for free. No, John, actually wouldn't. It took Mark

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Speaker 1: Davis paying you a hundred million dollars for you to return.

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Speaker 1: So not only would you not coach for free, you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have coached for fifty million. You wouldn't have coached

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Speaker 1: for seventy five million. It costs you a hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars to return to the sideline. And I keep looking

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Speaker 1: up and I keep seeing commercials with you and them.

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Speaker 1: They are paying you a premium to be in those commercials. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you love football, and I'm not disputing that. John Gruden

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Speaker 1: doesn't still work as hard. I've actually heard his work

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Speaker 1: ethic is incredible. But money is the driving factor with

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Speaker 1: John Gruden, where I do not believe with Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: with Andy Reid, with Nick Saban. I'm not saying those

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Speaker 1: guys don't like their money and don't value it as

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Speaker 1: a you know, as a form of respect in their business.

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Speaker 1: But I know for a fact now unequivocally, you cannot

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Speaker 1: deny it that Gruden mandates did his employer to do business.

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Speaker 1: They pay him the most. And again, I couldn't be

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Speaker 1: any more pro capitalism but Gruden. I read a Damn

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Speaker 1: POMPEII feature two weeks ago and Bleacher Report that said

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Speaker 1: I would coach for free. I love the game that much. No, Gruden,

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Speaker 1: you won't do anything for free. You made Corona pay

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Speaker 1: you millions that they from what my sources say, they

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Speaker 1: saved money on Tony Romo. And now Gruden might be

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Speaker 1: more you know, fun of a character to have in

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Speaker 1: those ads and that you know one hot line. But

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Speaker 1: don't get it twisted, John Gruden. Don't say it's his agent, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean his agent works for John Gruden. John Gruden

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Speaker 1: mandates that you pay him a premium mandates it. Chip Kelly,

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Speaker 1: Chip Kelly, Jeffrey Lury. They got along with the coach

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Speaker 1: for fifteen plus years, the ups and the downs, a

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Speaker 1: lot more ops with Andy Reid, and Andy's much easier

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Speaker 1: guy to deal with, stood by him. They had one

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Speaker 1: and and how he had the famous breakup Jeffrey Lury.

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Speaker 1: Going into week sixteen seventeen, Chips third year said, Chip

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Speaker 1: said the security guard up there, pack your stuff, put

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Speaker 1: Chip was fired. I mean it was a pretty famous firing.

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Speaker 1: Within three weeks, Jed York was offering him another job.

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Speaker 1: So in Chip's mind, yeah, I failed, But Jeffrey was

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Speaker 1: the idiot. How he was the crazy guy. Jed York

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Speaker 1: to come coach at U c l A. So like

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Speaker 1: John Gruden, how would Chip Kelly have any sense of

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Speaker 1: reality and have to do any inward thinking, like I

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Speaker 1: got to improve. Every time he fails, people are lined

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Speaker 1: up to hiring. And here's the thing with both those guys.

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Speaker 1: I was a little younger when John Gruden was coming

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Speaker 1: up with the Raiders, but you watch all those NFL films,

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Speaker 1: even when he was the offensive cordon coordinator with the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: he had an f you edge to him. When I

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Speaker 1: went through scouting the when he was coaching Oregon, Chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly had a massive edge to him. Both of those

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Speaker 1: He had no life. Remember they were pictures of his house.

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Speaker 1: He had no furniture, just a grinder. Well, over this

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Speaker 1: fires him to go away. Jed Yorke is immediately there

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Speaker 1: to pay him another twenty five million. A year later,

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Speaker 1: Casey Wasserman and Troy Akman are lined up to pay

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Speaker 1: him again. John Gruden has gotten so rich. Chip Kelly

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Speaker 1: has gotten so rich. You cannot tell me. Both those

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Gruden's quit because there are three

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Speaker 1: They have gotten too rich. They've gotten too rich, both

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Speaker 1: by Oklahoma. Listen. I'm not saying you sail A should

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Speaker 1: in a six year span. What does he care? Chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly at Oregon I always heard in a blowout win,

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Speaker 1: now doesn't have it. John Gruden, who stood up on

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Speaker 1: the podium early in January when is hired, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: basically waving the white flag. We're in a rebuild. We're

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Speaker 1: in a rebuild. John, you just took over a job

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Speaker 1: one explanation. They've gotten too rich. Chip Kelly, unlike Gruden,

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Speaker 1: doesn't pretend he'd coach for free. You know, I I

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Speaker 1: It's it could not be any more disingenuous because you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do anything for free. You wouldn't do anything for

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Speaker 1: the point of entry for you. For Chip, Chip is

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Speaker 1: just used to whether it's Phil Knight, whether it's Jed York,

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Speaker 1: just having his ass kissed like what happened to the

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Speaker 1: edge of Chip Kelly. You know, the craziest thing I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. Fresno State, where I actually worked ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: the day. Remember forever a freshman or sophomore had never

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Speaker 1: won the Heisman. Well, as times changed, more young players

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Speaker 1: started starting, and in the last ten years a lot

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Speaker 1: of underclassmen have won the Heisman. Forever young players first off.

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Speaker 1: For a long period of time, there was like a

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Speaker 1: JV I remember reading a story like Kenneth Stabler wasn't

430
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Speaker 1: even on the varsity team as a freshman. You have

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Speaker 1: to play like JV football. This wasn't This wasn't like

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Speaker 1: the seventies and then forever in the NFL, rookie quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: did not see the field no matter how highly you

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Speaker 1: were drafted. That really didn't change probably within my generation,

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Speaker 1: you know, within the last fifteen years, right in that

436
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Speaker 1: sweet spot of like remember one of the last blue

437
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Speaker 1: blue chip guys was we're gonna sit Carson Palmer for

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Speaker 1: a year behind John Kitna. And it wasn't that crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was like, give Carson some time. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: if the equivalent of Carson Palmer, who was one of

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Speaker 1: the better prospects in the last twenty years to come

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Speaker 1: out of college, sat for a year, that would be

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Speaker 1: blasphemy because it doesn't happen anymore. Jamis car Dak you

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Speaker 1: go around the league, Mariota, Sam Donald. Hell, it was

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Speaker 1: just before I started recording this podcast. Josh Allen is

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Speaker 1: starting this week. He's starting. So these young quarterbacks play

447
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 1: right away. They play right away mainly because they're ready.

448
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: It's never been easier to play quarterback because they can't

449
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Speaker 1: hit you. The game's much more spread out, the defense,

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Speaker 1: the the the way the game is officiated is kind

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Speaker 1: of against you. It's easy to play the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Not that it's easy to play the position, but it's

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Speaker 1: never been easier for young guys to make the transition. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry if I'm Cleveland Brown, I need Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: in the game this week. I can't see anymore of

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Like this team is too talented, I was

457
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: saying all offseason ever since Hard Knocks. They got premium

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Speaker 1: players in every position. Difference makers Nadoku. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I said his name right. But the tight end Sweet

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry Chubby do they drafted from Georgia Legit running

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Speaker 1: back like they have a solid offensive line. Myles Garrett

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Speaker 1: looks like a freak, Denzel a Ward, multiple picks in

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Speaker 1: the game, top five pick. Time to roll, baby, Tyrod Taylor, Like,

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Speaker 1: I am paying you to listen. Win loss is not

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Speaker 1: a quarterback stat, But losing is when you go fifteen

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Speaker 1: of forty and you have a key interception late in

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Speaker 1: the game. That's on you, buddy. Fifteen of forty, fifteen

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Speaker 1: of forty, Like, come on, you can't get fifty completions.

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Speaker 1: We got problems. I'm sorry, Tyrode. You seem like a

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Speaker 1: great guy and for whatever reason, social media thinks you're

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Speaker 1: John Elway Jr. But you're not very good. I drafted

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I didn't draft him in the second round.

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Speaker 1: I drafted him number one overall. I'm watching Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: just ball because of course he's gonna ball. He's a baller.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get Baker Mayfield in there. I'm watching Eli.

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Speaker 1: He can't even move. They got Odell Beckham that looks

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Speaker 1: better than ever. I mean, how good does Odell Beckham Jr. Look?

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Speaker 1: He looks healthy, he looks fast, he looks on a mission.

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Speaker 1: Props all the guy that got that got paid this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham huge money playing his ass off Khalil Mack

481
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Speaker 1: huge money playing his ass off, Aaron Donald huge money

482
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Speaker 1: playing his ass off. Millennials take a bad rap. But

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, having having I am an older

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Speaker 1: version of millennial and my my younger brother is right

485
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Speaker 1: in the sweet spot of the millennials. They're very They're

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Speaker 1: a nice generation. I do think they get a bad

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Speaker 1: the bad rap on just society. They are, they're friendly,

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Speaker 1: they do what they're told that they're good people. You know,

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Speaker 1: they really are. And the millennials that all got paid

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Speaker 1: this offseason in the NFL huge money and a lot

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Speaker 1: of times people worry like will money change? You didn't

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Speaker 1: change any of those three guys. Odell Beckham is ready

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Speaker 1: to roll. Can you imagine if Odell Beckham at Sam Donald,

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Speaker 1: You'd be like, well, you wouldn't have say Quan so what,

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Speaker 1: I have Nick Chubb and have a Royce Freeman, I

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Speaker 1: have another running back, you know, I'd have Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have Eli. This the way Eli is just,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, the false sense of reality they have

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Speaker 1: in that organization on Eli Manning is just is troubling

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Speaker 1: because if you told me Sam Donald was a quarterback

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Speaker 1: of the New York Giants, I'd say, God, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have one of the best offensive the league in the

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Speaker 1: next three or four years. But instead they have Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning and they're gonna be looking for a quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the near future. It was ravesty that they passed on him.

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Speaker 1: But again back to the New York Jets that there's

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Speaker 1: a reason the Golden State Warriors got Steph Curry because

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Speaker 1: idiots and morons were in front of them. And now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If Baker Mayfield is not as good

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Speaker 1: as Sam Donald, I would bet against it. And I

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Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield, but I don't think he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: that good. And I think if he was that good, again,

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Speaker 1: he's a fifth year senior, so he's not like a

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Speaker 1: true junior, young guy that's kind of swimming. A fifth

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Speaker 1: year senior who hung his hat on being a smart guy.

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Speaker 1: He can't beat out Tyrod Taylor. This guy's fifteen of forty.

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Speaker 1: We got some problems. I need. If I'm a Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Brown fan, I need Baker Mayfield in the game. If

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Speaker 1: I'm a New York Giants fan, It's gonna be a

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00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: hard year to watch, especially if Eli continues to just

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Speaker 1: look like man. Of course he looks like man. He's

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Speaker 1: been man for a while. I mean, what's the famous

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Speaker 1: saying leopards won't change their spots. Well, once you get

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Speaker 1: old and you can't move, you're old and you can't move,

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Speaker 1: You're not all of a sudden gonna be, you know,

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Speaker 1: a fluid athlete again. And Eli never was. So the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets, and if you're a Jets fan should

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Speaker 1: think they're lucky stars every so often that they were

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Speaker 1: gifted the franchise quarterback. Let's let's do a little something

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Speaker 1: just because there's so much happened this week. Uh, I

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Speaker 1: kind of want to touch on many things. Let's let's

532
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Speaker 1: go around the league and just hit on several games

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00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: or things that really stood out to me and dive in,

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Speaker 1: you know, spend a couple of minutes on each. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the Bears. I everyone and their mother knew that,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, they just got Khalil Mack. And I

537
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: wrote about it on The Athletic a couple of weeks ago.

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00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: I asked a bunch of NFL executives, there's not another

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL that would have traded Khalil Mack.

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Speaker 1: Not after year four, whether they would have made him

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Speaker 1: play out year five. I hear this all the time.

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Speaker 1: Belichick he got rid of Richard Seymour, Yeah, after eight

543
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Speaker 1: years Bridge. Seymour played for the Belichick from otudoh eight.

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Speaker 1: Julius Peppers played for the Carolina Panthers from OH one

545
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Speaker 1: to OH nine. Elite players play a second concert, Fletcher Cox.

546
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Speaker 1: Look around the NFL, Earl Thomas, Luke, Keikley. They all

547
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: get extended. Patrick Peterson in their prime, on their first team.

548
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith that you don't move teams in your prime

549
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Speaker 1: when you're a future Hall of Famer. J. J. Watt,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. You keep those guys. So for the Chicago

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Speaker 1: Bears to land that guy, listen, he hadn't been a

552
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: he hadn't been to a practice until last Monday. He'd

553
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: been to four practices before that game. He's a freak.

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Speaker 1: He's an all timer. He's basically l T two point out.

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Speaker 1: Not quite as good as peak LT, but without the

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Speaker 1: crack and the hookers. You know, good character guy, A dude,

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00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about Doude. You feel good

558
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Speaker 1: paying the Bears. I know they lost, and it was

559
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: a devastating loss, but I thought the Bears looked really good.

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Speaker 1: Matt was first game Matt Maggie has ever coached. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's uh, that's at minimum and eight win team. I

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Speaker 1: think most people thought that going into the season. I

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00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: think you should feel more confident now after watching that game.

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Speaker 1: They'll learn to win They have pieces on offense that

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Speaker 1: their defense. Karl Fuller is not gonna play that crappy.

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Speaker 1: He is better than what he showed. Geronomo should not

567
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: be smoking him down the sideline. He's the four seven guy.

568
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Fullers of four or four guy like you can't keep

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00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,719
Speaker 1: up that play. But Randall Cobb is just an embarrassment

570
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: like they had breakdown. So you don't normally see a

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Speaker 1: good defense. But the one thing that stood out to

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Speaker 1: me is they were gifted an all time great player

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Speaker 1: and that second round pick swap that somehow Johnny Gruden

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Speaker 1: gave them. I mean, in a couple of years of

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Speaker 1: Raiders might suck that pick might be like thirty five.

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Speaker 1: So it's not like the Bears have no picks moving forward,

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Speaker 1: but they do have Khalil Mack and that team. If

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Speaker 1: Mr Robisky can just keep improving, and I think he

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00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: showed flashes on Sunday night. The Bears are gonna be

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Speaker 1: really good. Jimmy Garoppolo, and see he sucks three picks.

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Speaker 1: You gotta put picks in context. His the first pick,

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Speaker 1: the picks six, and a pick six is always terrible.

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Speaker 1: Literally came the following play after Jimmy hit his tight

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00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: end wide open, which would have been a touchdown down

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Speaker 1: the sideline hit his hands and then hit the ground.

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Speaker 1: That the next play he throw a pick six. The

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Speaker 1: second pick was bad that Xavier Rose kind of bounced

588
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: off his helmet and hit his hand. It was it

589
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: was a good pick, Dante. It was a bad throw.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying Jimmy g played a great game.

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00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: It's probably like a C plus B minus. The only

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Speaker 1: reason the Niners sniffed the best defense in the league

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Speaker 1: was because of Jimmy Garoppolo. Jimmy Garoppolo was gonna throw picks.

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Speaker 1: I want my quarterback to throw picks. That means he

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Speaker 1: has balls, That means he has stones. That means he's

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Speaker 1: not afraid to take chances. And on a team like

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners, Jimmy Garoppolo has to take chances. Why

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Speaker 1: because their best wide receiver right now is a second

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Speaker 1: round player from Washington, Dante Pettis. Marky's goodwin gets a

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00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: deep bone bruise or a deep you know, a Charlie Horse.

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Speaker 1: He missed the rest of the game right in the bike,

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00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: like he's Lance Armstrong on the sideline. But let's not

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Speaker 1: act like the forty Niners there. Their second best option

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00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: is George Kittle. Say that out loud, George Kittle, So listen.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppol is gonna throw picks this year. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if you can't just watch Jimmy Garoppolo and go,

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00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: he's really good, and then I can't help you. Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo and Derek Carr both threw three picks each total

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Speaker 1: of six picks. If you watch the two games, you

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Speaker 1: go got Jimmy Garoppolo is way better than Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: That's not even arguable. And I'm a Derek Carr guy.

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Speaker 1: But the picks are not all created equal. The Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Garoppolo and the forty Niners. I've always said, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they're quite a playoff team, but they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be just fine. They're playing the Detroit Lions that look

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00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: like they've quit on their coach already. I mean, hiring

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00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: Belichick assistance can just turn into an absolute disaster before

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Speaker 1: you blank sneaky must win game for the forty Niners.

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Speaker 1: You can't lose to the Detroit Lions at home. And

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Speaker 1: I expect Jimmy Garoppolo and Kyle Shanahan to be much

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Speaker 1: better than they were a week one against the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Who let's get in the Minnesota Vikings really quick and

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Speaker 1: and be the Lions. I think the Minnesota Vikings might

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Speaker 1: be the best team the league, top to bottom. They

625
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: have the best defense in the NFL. Feel very confident

626
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 1: saying that elite corner, elite safety, elite linebacker, elite defensive line.

627
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Speaker 1: Offensive line a little sketchy, but that's the one thing

628
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL you can make up for if you

629
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Speaker 1: get rid of the ball quick. They have a quarterback

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Speaker 1: that's much improved from case Cam. They're running back. Latavius

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Speaker 1: Murray is an excellent backup. Dalvin Cook looks like a star.

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Speaker 1: Feeling Diggs studs Treadwell looks like he's coming on, Like

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Speaker 1: he kind of had a couple of catches against the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Be like, damn that kind of reminds me of Michael Crabtree.

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Speaker 1: So if they get something out of Treadwell to go

636
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: along with Thelon and Diggs and Rudolph, watch out, that

637
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: team is stacked. That team would be right now my

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Speaker 1: pick because of the unknown with Carson Wentz and the

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Speaker 1: injury coming back. Who knows when he's gonna play. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: if he's playing, the Eagles are really good. The Vikings

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00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: right now would be my pick for the number one seed.

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Speaker 1: Watching them in the Rams, I think they're better than

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Speaker 1: the Rams. They played him last year they beat him.

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Speaker 1: Uh and I just I just think the Vikings are better.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just really that simple. They have not

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Speaker 1: skipped to beat on offense. They they look really explosive.

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Speaker 1: With Pat Trimmer levin, John d. Filippo coming in, who

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Speaker 1: will be a head coach, if not next year, within

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Speaker 1: the next two years, Vikings are legit absolutely loaded. Mike

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00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: Zimmer stud defensive head coach. That defense will hit you

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Speaker 1: in the mouth. Denver, I don't know how good Denver

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Speaker 1: is gonna be, but I will say this, Von Miller

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Speaker 1: is remarkable, absolutely remarkable. I feel honored too as a

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Speaker 1: football fan too, have got to watch his entire career.

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Speaker 1: I was at the Super Bowl. Actually had a lot

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Speaker 1: of money on the Denver Broncos because I love betting

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Speaker 1: against Camp and I watched that performance. One of the

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Speaker 1: greatest in game defensive performances I've ever seen a couple

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Speaker 1: with the Niners watching Bowman and willis that I throw

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Speaker 1: up there. But the von Miller performance Sunday, and I

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Speaker 1: know there's playing a shitty offensive line in Seattle, but

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Speaker 1: but he looked like if you ever watched the high

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Speaker 1: school game when one dude for the high school is

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Speaker 1: like going to s c Ohio State or Alabama and

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Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, this is a man playing

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Speaker 1: with boys. It happened. It definitely happens in basketball. If

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Speaker 1: you've ever been to a high school basketball game where

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Speaker 1: the dudes going to like Duke or U C l A.

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Speaker 1: And he's just jamming on like the little white guy

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Speaker 1: and just you know, fade away threes and you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: it looks like Michael Jordan's That's what von Miller looked

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Speaker 1: like Sunday agains Seattle Seahawks. He took over the game.

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Speaker 1: He is just a man on a mission, and he's

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest defense. He's a lock Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: Three sacks, two forced fumbles, and just just stole Seattle

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Speaker 1: soul as the game went on. So again, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how good Denver's gonna be. They do look improved

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Speaker 1: to me, probably seven eight wins, but von Miller is

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Speaker 1: truly one of not just the all time greats. But

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Speaker 1: it's as good as it gets. And if you love

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Speaker 1: watching defensive pass rushers, he's a guy to watch Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Listen that the Jason Garrett thinks over he just we

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Speaker 1: talked I talked to earlier about Eli being may like

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's. Is is there a more just me coach

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Speaker 1: in the NFL? Like just average like Jason Garrett? What

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Speaker 1: I talked earlier about Chip Kelly having one pitch and

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Speaker 1: at least chips high end was much higher than Jason Garrett's.

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Speaker 1: Like Jason, what do you do? You don't call the offense,

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Speaker 1: you don't call the defense. You just clap all the time,

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Speaker 1: and you are an offensive guy, a quarterback, yet your

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00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: offenses are just so boring. Now I'm not sure Dak

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Speaker 1: is any good. I would have been the last guy

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Speaker 1: to ever jump on the dock train. He threw for

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Speaker 1: a hundred seventy yards. He was like nineteen and twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: did not have a touchdown fairness to him. His wide

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Speaker 1: receiver suck. But I just watched him, and I never thought,

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Speaker 1: even when he was kicking ass and taking names that

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Speaker 1: rookie year, that to use Collin's term, that he popped.

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Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't have a great arm. Uh. He's

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Speaker 1: a good athlete, but he's not like a dynamic picky

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Speaker 1: apart going through his progressions, just some you know savant

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Speaker 1: as a quarterback. He's not some gun slinger because he

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00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: does not have the arms right and him and Jason

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Speaker 1: Garrett is just it's not doing it for me. Tony

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Speaker 1: Romo elevated Jason Garrett. Tony Romo is one of those

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Speaker 1: guys is gonna go down in the hall. Are really good,

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Speaker 1: probably underappreciated when it's all said and done. Dak Prescott

708
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: will never sniff Tony Roma. Couldn't hold Tony Romo's chock.

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Speaker 1: I get why they went with Dak Prescott that year.

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Speaker 1: He's playing so well, the team was winning, it was

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Speaker 1: a no brainer. That doesn't mean that he you know,

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Speaker 1: and I think most people, as we got our next Tonyo.

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Speaker 1: Now he ain't the next Tony Romo. I promise you

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Speaker 1: that he ain't as good. Jason Garrett's terrible. Whether he's

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Speaker 1: got you know, dirt or naked pictures of Jerry, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It doesn't seem like he's going anywhere. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have issues. And then the Baltimore Ravens. My one

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Speaker 1: theory was John Harbaugh was jealous of Jim, his brother Jim,

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Speaker 1: because his dad lives in Michigan. The family takes a

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Speaker 1: lot of pride and influencing young men. His dad is

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Speaker 1: a college coach, not a pro coach, so he loves

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Speaker 1: the college game. And I thought John would eventually get

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Speaker 1: a little jealous of that USC Clay Healton. Let's call

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Speaker 1: it what it is. He is a University of Texas

725
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: lost this weekend away from getting fired. Now he literally

726
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Speaker 1: might not get fired in the season, but his career

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Speaker 1: at SC would be done at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: And I thought Lynn swan NFL guy, you know, uh,

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Speaker 1: rival of the Steve of the Ravens Steeler guy, would

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Speaker 1: go after John Harbaugh because John Harbaugh as his owner,

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Speaker 1: set it crossed his mind firing him last year. We'll

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Speaker 1: say one thing for John Harbor. It looks like his

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Speaker 1: team is on a mission now. They played the Bills,

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Speaker 1: who might be the worst team in the NFL, but

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Speaker 1: they beat the living crap out of him. They look good,

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Speaker 1: good defense, Michael Crabtree, John Brown Flacco is motivated for

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Speaker 1: the first time in a long time. It might be

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Speaker 1: a nine or ten win playoff team, especially if the

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Speaker 1: Steelers regress a little bit. Who's to say they couldn't

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Speaker 1: win the division. I feel like my theory is taking

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Speaker 1: some hits. I'm not quite as confident that John Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: USC won't want him, because he won't be available, because

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Speaker 1: he'll get a contract extension because Ozzy Knewsom will be

745
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Speaker 1: is retiring. And then John Harbaugh would have all the juice.

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Speaker 1: He would basically become a Pete Carroll and John Gruden

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Speaker 1: and Andy Reid. He'd run the organization basically. Now, he's

748
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Speaker 1: gotta win and he's gotta make the playoffs. But that

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Speaker 1: is in play because clearly the Ravens are are much

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Speaker 1: improved last team. I'm not gonna pump the brakes on

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Speaker 1: this team because I do think they're really good. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, they probably end up winning

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Speaker 1: the NFC West by two or three games, because who's

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Speaker 1: gonna finish the second in the NFC West the Niners

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00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: at eight and eight, nine and seven. Best case, the

756
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Speaker 1: Rams probably win the division. You think about it. Hell,

757
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: they could win thirty. They can win the division by four.

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00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: They could have the division basically wrapped up in the

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Speaker 1: first week of December. But I think when you watch him,

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Speaker 1: you go is Jared Goff just gonna slice and dice

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Speaker 1: teams weekend week out when he has to. Now, if

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Speaker 1: he can consistently go to Todd Gurley, who is just

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Speaker 1: a remarkable elite out like a special player. Can catch

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Speaker 1: the football, can run inside, can run outside, has elite

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00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: top end speed, his vision is much improved. Just a

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Speaker 1: special player worth every penny. But he is the straw

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00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: that stirs that drink, not the quarterback. So whenever that's

768
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Speaker 1: the case, if that guy goes out, it changes everything.

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Speaker 1: If they got two into a pinch where Todd Gurley

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Speaker 1: sprained an ankle and was out a month, could they

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Speaker 1: rely on Jared Goff to just bang out wins. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, and I'm a Jared Goff guy, But to me,

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Speaker 1: that would be just watching them Monday night. Sean McVeigh

774
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: is fantastic, Todd Gurley is fantastic, Aaron Donald stud Wade

775
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: Phillips big time. But I think at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, like their weakness is their quarterback. And again,

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Speaker 1: he's not bad. It's not like he's a Blake Bortles

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Speaker 1: or anything. But I'm talking about the elite there held

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Speaker 1: do a new standard, Like they're gotta go to war

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles, they gotta go to war with the

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Speaker 1: Vikings like that? That's the level. Can they beat a

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Speaker 1: healthy Green Day Packers? Could they beat the Patriots like that?

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Speaker 1: That's the level. I'm We're talking about the Rams now

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Speaker 1: like they're in that category, and I don't know. I

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00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: don't see it yet. I'm not saying he can't get

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00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: there because he does show flashes and I'm rooting for

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Speaker 1: I like Jared Goff, I just don't know that. That

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Speaker 1: would be my one red flag on the Los Angeles

789
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Speaker 1: Rams is can they depend on their quarterback if ship

790
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: hits the fan? Can they just rely on him to

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00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: carry them? Because we've seen it forever that at the

792
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Speaker 1: end of the day and these big games against the

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Speaker 1: best teams, the quarterback has to make plays. Let's get

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Speaker 1: to the Middlecoff mail Bag and like always, you can

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Speaker 1: slide up in my Instagram dams at John Middlecoff. My

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Speaker 1: dams are open. Slide up in them and I'll either

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Speaker 1: answer the question directly sometimes I do that if it's

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Speaker 1: not a super long question, or I will get to

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Speaker 1: it here on the Middlecoff mail bag. And I wrote

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Speaker 1: down a bunch I'm behind a little bit. And also,

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Speaker 1: you can listen to this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'm an Apple guy, so I listened to it on iTunes,

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Speaker 1: leave a question and I'll bang out a couple actually

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Speaker 1: right now, see who this? Okay? This is hello? My

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Speaker 1: name is Michael. What's up? Michael? And I'm curious why

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Speaker 1: most analysts and sportscasters overlook Jordan Howard. He's the only

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Speaker 1: Bears running back to run for a thousand yards in

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Speaker 1: his first two seasons good stat and this is a

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Speaker 1: team that has two of the best running backs ever

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Speaker 1: in Walter Payton and Gale Sarahs. Another good point is

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Speaker 1: it because he doesn't catch the passes out of the

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Speaker 1: backfield question, Mike, I think the main issue is that

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Speaker 1: the Bears haven't been good, and anytime you're on a

818
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Speaker 1: really shitty team and you have a great player, you

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00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: get overlooked just by good teams because we talk about

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00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: good teams more than we talk about bad teams. But

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Speaker 1: I also think he showed out really good in the

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night game. It's it's pretty crazy. I tweeted this

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Speaker 1: out during the Sunday Night game, like, got those Jordan

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Speaker 1: Howard trade rumors were fun. He's a really good player.

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Speaker 1: There's just no disputing that. And I think if the

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Speaker 1: Bears have the season that I expect them to have

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Speaker 1: eight nine, you know, wins, competing for a wild card. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Jordan Howard. If he has another

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Speaker 1: thousand yards, We're going to talk about Jordan Howard. But

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Speaker 1: it's just it's also the nation, the nature of they

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Speaker 1: have a brand new coach. They're gonna talk about Matt

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Speaker 1: Naggey more than they do the running back. They just

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Speaker 1: signed Khalil Mack, one of the great defensive players of

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Speaker 1: the last twenty years. He's gonna get a lot of headlines. Mr.

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Speaker 1: Robinsky is just the quarterback. We're gonna spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time talking about him the running back, like as

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Speaker 1: we see on the financial market. You know, in the

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Speaker 1: league it's just an under appreciated position and if you're not,

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Speaker 1: you know David Johnson and Levi on Bell, Todd Gurley,

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Speaker 1: you just don't get talked about as much, even though

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00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: you're right he deserves more pop. And I think if

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Speaker 1: the Bears have a good season and he continues to dominate,

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Speaker 1: he will definitely talk about him more because I like him.

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00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: I like him all. I thought he was excellent in

845
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: the in that Green Bay game, running hard, showing he

846
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: can go inside and outside. But you do bring up

847
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: a good point part of two thousand eighteen to be

848
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: a really, really dynamic back, like he's not their pass catcher.

849
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: Cohen is right. So most of the great backs in

850
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: this day and age, Levian Girly, shady Zeke there, they

851
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: never come off the field. They do it all where

852
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: Jordan does share a little bit and rightfully so. I

853
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: mean Cohen's a stud John. Uh. Do players objectively have

854
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: any leveraging holdouts other than creating media scrutiny and not

855
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: actually playing. Each week they hold out, the player loses

856
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: a fat paycheck in sales. It's all about leverage, and

857
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: it seems that the teams have it all. It's a

858
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: good point. I would say, you have leverage if you're

859
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: a great player. That's unreplaceable. Right. If you're a great

860
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: salesman and you produced ten times in your business, what

861
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 1: the next best salesman produces. That company needs you around

862
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: because your business is so important that it's not replaceable.

863
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: That your connections are at the highest end. You know,

864
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: wherever you're dealing with, you are doing more business than

865
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: everyone else. It's not that you can't argue that where

866
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: I think, like Levian Bell, for example, I'm gonna get

867
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: into this question and I'll mix this in now because

868
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: Garrett on Instagram asked like, what's my take on the

869
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: Levion Bell situation? Does that hurt Pittsburgh thoughts on their

870
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: old Lines comments? I think you saw the old line

871
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: taking shots at Levian because they went, you'll Levy on

872
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: you're making fourteen and a half million dollars. That's the

873
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: highest paid running back in the NFL. It's not like

874
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: you're underpaid. You are highly paid. You are paid a premium.

875
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: We just saw David Johnson get a contract extension of

876
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars guaranteed. Now Levian's proven he's a better player.

877
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: But you'll left that's the market. Like what would you've

878
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: been suspended twice? You've had a d U I and

879
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: got nailed for p E d S and had your

880
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: legs snapped, and you in two years will have accumulated

881
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: about twenty seven million dollars. Like you, you ain't got

882
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: much leverage, bro, But I'll tell you who did have leverage.

883
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald did because Aaron Donald goes on the best

884
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: defensive linemen in the league. So the Rams you know,

885
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: had to capitulate and gave him eighty seven million dollars.

886
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: That immediately gave even more leverage to Khalil. Khalil, the

887
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: market is set. I will not have a discussion with

888
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: you if the starting point is not eighty seven million

889
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed. Earl Thomas, he showed up why he didn't

890
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: have any leverage like Earl you're on your second contract,

891
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: You're making a ton. I don't know what you want, buddy,

892
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: So I think it all depends on the player. For

893
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: quarterback everywhere to hold out, they would have enormous leverage.

894
00:47:54,880 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: The rare peak guy in their prime, Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald,

895
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: like Luke Keickley a couple of years ago, a Fletcher

896
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: Cox a couple of years ago, they would have leverage.

897
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: But the one thing about the NFL and the reason

898
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: the league is so strong, is most players don't it's

899
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: a it's an owner team league. They are in control.

900
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: They are in the driver's seat, just like most companies.

901
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: But every so often certain employees have leverage. Doing this

902
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: podcast for the Colin Coward podcast network, guess what Colin

903
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: produces Howard Stern produces, They got leverage. You know, certain

904
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: employees have a lot of leverage, even if they work

905
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: for enormous companies. They are so valuable. If you're a

906
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: great salesman and your way better than anyone in your company,

907
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: you have some leverage. But if you're if you're a

908
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: player like Levian Bell like, you'll lev your backup. Just

909
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: came in. Guess what he did he ran for over

910
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: a hundred yards. He had two touchdowns. I can replace

911
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: your production. Is he as good as you know? But

912
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: you know what he is, he's way cheaper than you.

913
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: How much does James Connor make six ran? What does

914
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: Levian make? Fourteen and a half million dollars? I'd rather

915
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: have the guy making six grand getting me a hundred

916
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: and forty yards to touchdown than paying a guy fourteen

917
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: and a half for the same, because, again, the football

918
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: is all economics. It's just basic numbers. Now, if Levian

919
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: was a great guy and had never been in trouble

920
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: and his teammates liked him, no different than if you're

921
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: liked inside companies, those guys usually stick around for for

922
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: Levian's offensive linemen to take a bunch of shots at him.

923
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: You know what that shows me they don't really like him,

924
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: because you know what I know would not have happened

925
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: if Khalil Mack hadn't been traded and he was still

926
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: holding out. None of his teammates would have said anything.

927
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: They would have said, we need this guy, why because

928
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: they like him. It showed me that Ramon Foster and

929
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: Pouncey they're not that big on Levian. Bill and maybe

930
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: if they were, he would have already been paid. So

931
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: maybe it's a Levian Bell problem. So back here. The

932
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: overall UH answer to this question is a few players

933
00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: have leverage non quarterbacks, but the great ones due and

934
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: they can force the hand of a team. But for

935
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: the most part, every every other player is replaceable. Chase

936
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: on Instagram, what are realistic expectations for Mahomes? He actually

937
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: asked this question before week one, But we saw my

938
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: Homes through four touchdowns and now really a couple of

939
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: them wore those crazy handoffs, Andy Reid just being a

940
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: magician play caller on the goal line, and the other

941
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: one was an unreal slant pass sidearm to Tyreek Kill,

942
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: but Tyree Kill did the rest. One thing is clear,

943
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: though my homes talent is just freakish. I think he

944
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: could throw thirty plus touchdowns, he is gonna throw some interceptions.

945
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: The Chargers and their home field advantage are a joke.

946
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: I will never take the Chargers seriously. One thing is

947
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: clear with the with the kanc Chiefs, their offense is

948
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: stacked elite wide receiver. A second wide receiver is damn

949
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: good and Sammy Watkins, Kareem Hunt Travis Kelsey. Their offensive

950
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: line is good. Andy Reid is an elite offensive coordinator.

951
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: He is gonna put up big numbers. Now, He's gonna

952
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: go through adversity every young quarterback does, so I don't

953
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: expect every game to look that easy. Plus their defense

954
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: is not good, but they are gonna score points. Man.

955
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna have some games when you look up and

956
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: you go, oh my god, the Chiefs have forty points

957
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: and there's five minutes left in the third quarter that

958
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna have some moments when they light up the

959
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: other team like a Christmas tree. And I his arm

960
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: is so special, his ability to make something out of

961
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 1: nothing is extremely special, and his playmakers around him are

962
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: just stacked. So my expectations from homes are high. I

963
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: think the f C West, we'll see this. This Raider

964
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: Bronco game is gonna be telling. I mean, the Bronco's

965
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: gonna start too and oh or the Raiders gonna be

966
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: oh and two and feel out of it. Are the

967
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: charge You're gonna bounce back Because to me right now,

968
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: if I was a betting man after one week, I

969
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: probably put some cash on the Canpa Chiefs to win

970
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: the division. Evan, rank your top ten coaches and how

971
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: many of them? How many n C double A guys

972
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: would you put over NFL guys. I think my top

973
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: two are pretty easy. Bill Belichick number one coach, number

974
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: one coach of all time, obviously active coaches. Number two,

975
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: I'd have Nick Saban. I mean, five national championships at Alabama. Uh,

976
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: you just watch their program, It's unlike anything I've ever seen.

977
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: Three is tough because I I bumped Urban down a

978
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: little bit because he's somewhat of a pain in the ass.

979
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 1: Now he's won a couple of national championships, but he's

980
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: he left Florida just an absolute shambles. This deal with

981
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: Ohio State while they are stacked, it's he's can't coach

982
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: this week against TCU as the prime time game. So

983
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: I bumped them down. Uh okay, you know, and people

984
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: are gonna call me a homer for this, but his

985
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself, and when you factor in how

986
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: consistent he is, how easy is to deal with. I'd

987
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: have Andy Reid number three, because I think he would

988
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: crush it in college if he wanted to do. And

989
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: he dominates the NFL. Now he's had problems in the playoffs.

990
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna change with Mahomes, that they're gonna

991
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: get over the top in the next five years. With

992
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes Urban, I'd have four just because a little bias.

993
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: I just don't like him. I not disputy is a

994
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: great coach, but he's a painting the ass. Five I've

995
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: had Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll, one in college and one

996
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: in the pros. I know he's going through a couple

997
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: of years tough stretch here in Seattle, but again, his

998
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. Multiple national championships at USC, went

999
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: to back to back Super Bowls in Seattle, big time

1000
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: football coach. Six I have Mike Tomlin. All he does

1001
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: is win, win, win, win again, bad tie Sunday, but

1002
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: Roethlisburg was atrocious. I don't put that on Tomlin. Uh

1003
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: five turnovers that just that just cannot happen in the NFL.

1004
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: But again, Mike Tomlin's resume speaks for itself. I'd be

1005
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: shocked if they're not in the a f C Championship

1006
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: this year. Seven Pete University of Washington. All he did

1007
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: at Boise State was kick everyone's ass. All he's doing

1008
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: at the University of Washington was go to the playoffs

1009
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It looks like he's gonna

1010
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: go back this year, or he's gonna have a chance

1011
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: to absolutely stacked team stud I love Chris Peterson. Eight.

1012
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: This guy a little older. I'm not an agent here.

1013
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: I gotta give older guys a little love. Mike Zimmer

1014
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: took him a long time to get a shot, but

1015
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: look at the Minnesota Vikings. They are kicking ass and

1016
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: taking names. They missed a field goal a couple of

1017
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: years ago or they would have been Seattle. I mean,

1018
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: Blair Walsh, come on, you gotta make a chip shot.

1019
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: Last year, uh you know? And I know they lost

1020
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 1: in the a f C Championship Game, but it looked

1021
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: like God was finally on Philadelphia's side. I think Mike

1022
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: Zimmer is big time and right now they'd probably be

1023
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: my favorites to win the Super Bowl. Nine. I'm going

1024
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: the young gun Sehn McVeigh. He looks just like the

1025
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: next young John Gruden twenty years ago. It looks like

1026
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: an absolute, flat out star, total package. And I had

1027
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: to put a millennial on this list. Ten I'm going

1028
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: Dabbo Sweeney Clemson is awesome. Program is basically the the

1029
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: Alabama right now of the a c c UH. The

1030
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: moment Nick Saban retires, he will one hundred percent be

1031
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: Alabama's number one choice. It's just gonna be. Does he

1032
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: want to go coach to Alabama? Does he want to

1033
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: stay at Clemson? If I had to pick my gut

1034
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: right now, would be that he ends up staying at Clemson.

1035
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: But you never know. Money talk shit walks. So I

1036
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: think you got Bill Sabing, Andy Urban, Pete Carroll, Mike Tomlin, Pete,

1037
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson, Mike Zimmer, McVeigh, Dabbo. There are obviously several

1038
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: other guys you could easily throw in. You can argue

1039
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: with this list all day long. It's not an easy

1040
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: list to make. So I got more Meddlecoff mail bags,

1041
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: questions I'll get to next week. Slide up in my

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1043
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,680
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1044
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,359
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