1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:16,355 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Which 2 00:00:16,755 --> 00:00:20,355 Speaker 1: of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow? The 3 00:00:20,435 --> 00:00:23,515 Speaker 1: good news is Pete Hegseth was interrupted three times by 4 00:00:23,555 --> 00:00:26,755 Speaker 1: Heckler's at the hearing for his nomination as Secretary of 5 00:00:27,755 --> 00:00:30,995 Speaker 1: brill Cream. The bad news is it was not three 6 00:00:31,035 --> 00:00:33,795 Speaker 1: hundred times. He might be the smartest of them. Pam 7 00:00:33,915 --> 00:00:37,435 Speaker 1: Bondi apparently did not hear a single threat Trump made 8 00:00:37,515 --> 00:00:41,035 Speaker 1: during his campaign, and Tulsey Gabbard has no idea what 9 00:00:41,155 --> 00:00:46,315 Speaker 1: her new job even is. Trump goes full Reagan, tries 10 00:00:46,355 --> 00:00:48,675 Speaker 1: to grab credit for Biden and b Lincoln's hostage deal 11 00:00:48,835 --> 00:00:53,035 Speaker 1: and ceasefire times running out? Is the New York Times 12 00:00:53,035 --> 00:00:56,355 Speaker 1: actually intentionally following the self destructive path of the Washington 13 00:00:56,395 --> 00:01:00,475 Speaker 1: Post and CNN? This is not a boat accident. You 14 00:01:00,675 --> 00:01:03,995 Speaker 1: don't know Jack Smith going out with a whimper, not 15 00:01:04,075 --> 00:01:07,195 Speaker 1: a bang. Love him, but what the hell was that? 16 00:01:08,155 --> 00:01:12,235 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Monday, it's doomsday and on 17 00:01:12,315 --> 00:01:16,835 Speaker 1: doomsday we are committing national suicide. All that and more 18 00:01:17,035 --> 00:01:36,235 Speaker 1: now on Countdown a timely reminder that what would become 19 00:01:36,315 --> 00:01:41,755 Speaker 1: The Confederate States thought that secession was constitutional. They were 20 00:01:41,755 --> 00:01:43,995 Speaker 1: a further reminder that three and a half years before that, 21 00:01:44,035 --> 00:01:46,275 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court of the United States had ruled that 22 00:01:46,395 --> 00:01:49,995 Speaker 1: Congress had no right to ban slavery and that the 23 00:01:50,075 --> 00:01:54,195 Speaker 1: slaves and even the ex slaves, had no rights at all. 24 00:01:55,715 --> 00:01:58,635 Speaker 1: I was thinking of that and this as President Biden 25 00:01:58,675 --> 00:02:01,875 Speaker 1: gave his farewell speech last night. Wherein the Constitution does 26 00:02:01,915 --> 00:02:05,795 Speaker 1: it say that the nation must commit suicide because a 27 00:02:05,875 --> 00:02:08,195 Speaker 1: slim majority of its voters have been fooled into believing 28 00:02:08,235 --> 00:02:11,155 Speaker 1: it is not committing suicide. Where in the law does 29 00:02:11,195 --> 00:02:14,235 Speaker 1: it say that a criminal has to be protected from 30 00:02:14,315 --> 00:02:19,235 Speaker 1: all laws by judges he corruptly appointed. Where in the 31 00:02:19,315 --> 00:02:23,995 Speaker 1: law does it say that one man is above all law. 32 00:02:24,155 --> 00:02:27,995 Speaker 1: Where in our agency over our own lives does it 33 00:02:28,035 --> 00:02:31,475 Speaker 1: say that we must defer to a traitor who has 34 00:02:31,475 --> 00:02:35,915 Speaker 1: corrupted politics, voting, the judiciary everything that we must defer 35 00:02:36,035 --> 00:02:41,075 Speaker 1: to him just because he's good at being bad. And 36 00:02:41,155 --> 00:02:46,835 Speaker 1: where does a president's loyalty to his people rest. Is 37 00:02:46,875 --> 00:02:50,635 Speaker 1: that loyalty taking the form of protecting the forms and 38 00:02:50,795 --> 00:02:54,435 Speaker 1: rules of a broken system, or is it in the 39 00:02:54,515 --> 00:02:57,315 Speaker 1: form of protecting those people from the greatest threat they 40 00:02:57,355 --> 00:03:00,235 Speaker 1: have ever faced, the threat of his successor, who has 41 00:03:00,235 --> 00:03:03,195 Speaker 1: perverted that broken system to serve himself at a few 42 00:03:03,235 --> 00:03:05,915 Speaker 1: cronies and a few whares and to condemn the rest 43 00:03:05,915 --> 00:03:11,555 Speaker 1: of us. Is it Joe Biden's constitutional responsibility to not 44 00:03:11,715 --> 00:03:14,275 Speaker 1: declare a state of insurrection and put them all behind bars? 45 00:03:14,555 --> 00:03:18,315 Speaker 1: Or is it his constitutional responsibility to declare one? And 46 00:03:18,395 --> 00:03:22,595 Speaker 1: what is his moral responsibility? As I've said before, I 47 00:03:22,635 --> 00:03:25,835 Speaker 1: do not have either enough words nor enough time to 48 00:03:25,875 --> 00:03:30,715 Speaker 1: tell you how much this isn't going to happen. The 49 00:03:30,875 --> 00:03:35,475 Speaker 1: morass in South Korea, opposite in intent but similar in structure, 50 00:03:35,515 --> 00:03:39,755 Speaker 1: at least reminds us that a bureaucracy, especially a governmental bureaucracy, 51 00:03:39,755 --> 00:03:44,075 Speaker 1: will always protect itself first. But it still needs to 52 00:03:44,075 --> 00:03:46,475 Speaker 1: be addressed this point, and no one will address it. 53 00:03:47,315 --> 00:03:50,155 Speaker 1: When is it necessary for a president to go outside 54 00:03:50,195 --> 00:03:54,835 Speaker 1: the constitution to save the constitution and to save the nation? 55 00:03:56,315 --> 00:03:58,835 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln thought it was necessary pretty much every day 56 00:03:58,835 --> 00:04:05,435 Speaker 1: for four years. In short, it is both morally unconsonable 57 00:04:06,155 --> 00:04:10,595 Speaker 1: and unconstitutional for the sitting president of the United States 58 00:04:10,995 --> 00:04:14,315 Speaker 1: to take these weapons with which representative government will be destroyed, 59 00:04:14,555 --> 00:04:17,915 Speaker 1: and hand them to a madman whose entire platform is 60 00:04:17,955 --> 00:04:23,715 Speaker 1: to destroy representative government. But is it a moral and 61 00:04:23,795 --> 00:04:28,075 Speaker 1: constitutional imperative for Joe Biden to instead take these weapons 62 00:04:28,715 --> 00:04:30,315 Speaker 1: while they are still not in the hands of an 63 00:04:30,315 --> 00:04:33,675 Speaker 1: insane autocrat, and declare that the emergency that mad man 64 00:04:33,715 --> 00:04:38,115 Speaker 1: will someday foment is here now, the insurrection is at hand. 65 00:04:39,595 --> 00:04:42,595 Speaker 1: To say that the Constitution says what it means, and 66 00:04:42,635 --> 00:04:45,195 Speaker 1: that an oath Biden took nine separate times to defend 67 00:04:45,235 --> 00:04:53,355 Speaker 1: this nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic, might require 68 00:04:53,435 --> 00:04:55,715 Speaker 1: him to declare that Trump and his cultinate gang, and 69 00:04:55,715 --> 00:04:59,235 Speaker 1: most importantly, his current active co conspirators, are preparing to 70 00:04:59,275 --> 00:05:00,675 Speaker 1: do what they have said they would do and what 71 00:05:00,715 --> 00:05:03,515 Speaker 1: their corruption has enabled them to do, to destroy the 72 00:05:03,515 --> 00:05:06,195 Speaker 1: form of government of this country, to revoke its freedoms 73 00:05:06,195 --> 00:05:09,115 Speaker 1: and shatter its laws and norms and protections, and threaten 74 00:05:09,195 --> 00:05:14,035 Speaker 1: the lives of every patriotic citizen of this nation. What's 75 00:05:14,115 --> 00:05:17,875 Speaker 1: right and what's wrong here? Which is this? Declare that 76 00:05:17,915 --> 00:05:19,515 Speaker 1: the insurrection is here and that these are the men 77 00:05:19,555 --> 00:05:22,915 Speaker 1: and the women who constitute it and prevent them. 78 00:05:23,035 --> 00:05:24,235 Speaker 2: Is that right? Or is it wrong? 79 00:05:27,715 --> 00:05:31,035 Speaker 1: If my hypothetical is insufficiently clear, and I have fuzzed 80 00:05:31,035 --> 00:05:33,395 Speaker 1: it up a little bit for dramatic effect, let me 81 00:05:33,475 --> 00:05:35,635 Speaker 1: make it more timeless and more simple. And I acknowledge 82 00:05:35,675 --> 00:05:38,595 Speaker 1: in advance that on the surface it is almost certainly 83 00:05:38,675 --> 00:05:43,915 Speaker 1: identical to the hypothetical offered insincerely and dishonestly by Trump's 84 00:05:43,955 --> 00:05:47,595 Speaker 1: plotters in twenty twenty one. But try this version of it. 85 00:05:47,955 --> 00:05:51,515 Speaker 1: You are responsible for the defense of freedom in this world. 86 00:05:52,155 --> 00:05:54,715 Speaker 1: You have the only gun in this world, a gun 87 00:05:54,755 --> 00:05:58,315 Speaker 1: which you have never used. Certainly you have never used it. First, 88 00:05:58,715 --> 00:06:01,235 Speaker 1: you have sworn an oath to use it to defend 89 00:06:01,275 --> 00:06:03,635 Speaker 1: your people and your world. And there is a man 90 00:06:03,875 --> 00:06:07,115 Speaker 1: who has said he tends to kill you and freedom 91 00:06:07,435 --> 00:06:10,115 Speaker 1: and everybody and everything else you are supposed to defend. 92 00:06:10,235 --> 00:06:13,395 Speaker 1: But he doesn't have a gun. And this man who 93 00:06:13,475 --> 00:06:15,755 Speaker 1: intends to kill you and freedom walks up to you 94 00:06:15,795 --> 00:06:17,795 Speaker 1: with a piece of paper and he says, this piece 95 00:06:17,835 --> 00:06:20,435 Speaker 1: of paper says, you have to give me your gun. 96 00:06:20,795 --> 00:06:23,835 Speaker 1: He intends to kill you. He intends to kill freedom. 97 00:06:24,075 --> 00:06:26,715 Speaker 1: He has repeatedly promised to kill you and freedom. He 98 00:06:26,755 --> 00:06:29,195 Speaker 1: has previously tried to kill you and freedom. And he's 99 00:06:29,195 --> 00:06:31,675 Speaker 1: never shown any respect for a life, or for anyone 100 00:06:31,795 --> 00:06:35,035 Speaker 1: or anything but himself. He has hired people to help 101 00:06:35,115 --> 00:06:37,835 Speaker 1: him kill you and kill Freedom. He has spent billions 102 00:06:37,835 --> 00:06:40,195 Speaker 1: of dollars to make sure he can kill you and 103 00:06:40,315 --> 00:06:44,515 Speaker 1: kill Freedom. But he now can only accomplish it if you, 104 00:06:45,675 --> 00:06:49,755 Speaker 1: the one who has the gun, gives him the gun. 105 00:06:50,955 --> 00:06:54,395 Speaker 1: By what logic, by what common sense, by what oath, 106 00:06:54,595 --> 00:06:58,115 Speaker 1: by what law, by what morality? Should your response to 107 00:06:58,155 --> 00:07:03,035 Speaker 1: this be to give him the goddamn gun. You give 108 00:07:03,115 --> 00:07:06,235 Speaker 1: him the gun, he shoots you and kills you, and 109 00:07:06,315 --> 00:07:09,315 Speaker 1: as you die, you see him walk over your bleeding 110 00:07:09,355 --> 00:07:11,755 Speaker 1: body so he can go and kill Freedom. And your 111 00:07:11,835 --> 00:07:15,075 Speaker 1: last thought is what, well, at least I followed the rules. 112 00:07:16,475 --> 00:07:19,595 Speaker 1: If you were president, and you had sworn that oath, 113 00:07:19,635 --> 00:07:21,995 Speaker 1: and every move of the man to whom you are 114 00:07:22,035 --> 00:07:26,035 Speaker 1: to hand the country next Monday elucidates and amplifies his 115 00:07:26,115 --> 00:07:29,715 Speaker 1: insanity and foretells his destruction of our country, and you 116 00:07:29,875 --> 00:07:34,515 Speaker 1: had utter immunity from the Supreme Court he bought and destroyed. 117 00:07:38,515 --> 00:08:09,315 Speaker 1: What would you do? I'll repeat what I said. I 118 00:08:09,395 --> 00:08:12,275 Speaker 1: do not have enough words to explain to you how 119 00:08:12,355 --> 00:08:17,035 Speaker 1: much this is not going to happen. Back on the 120 00:08:17,075 --> 00:08:20,275 Speaker 1: planet of stuff that could actually happen. When Marco Rubio, 121 00:08:20,475 --> 00:08:24,115 Speaker 1: a dyspeptic fish with a bad comb over looks like 122 00:08:24,195 --> 00:08:27,075 Speaker 1: the smart one in the room. Trump really has done 123 00:08:27,475 --> 00:08:32,195 Speaker 1: a superb job of rounding up every servile, amoral, gutless 124 00:08:32,515 --> 00:08:37,675 Speaker 1: idiot he could find to nominate to be something. Pete 125 00:08:37,675 --> 00:08:41,195 Speaker 1: hegseeth does not know what ACIAN is the Association of 126 00:08:41,275 --> 00:08:47,555 Speaker 1: Southeastern Asian Nations Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia, et cetera. Senator 127 00:08:47,635 --> 00:08:50,195 Speaker 1: Duckworth asked him about it. He must have thought she 128 00:08:50,315 --> 00:08:54,315 Speaker 1: said Asian, like let's go get drunk at the Asian restaurant. 129 00:08:54,955 --> 00:09:00,075 Speaker 1: Oh oh, oh, assion oh, I thought you said beer. 130 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:03,155 Speaker 3: You talked about the Indo Pacific a little bit, and 131 00:09:03,155 --> 00:09:04,475 Speaker 3: I'm glad that did you mention it up? 132 00:09:04,795 --> 00:09:05,115 Speaker 2: Mention it? 133 00:09:05,155 --> 00:09:08,235 Speaker 3: Can you name the importance of at least one of 134 00:09:08,275 --> 00:09:11,755 Speaker 3: the nations in the Ossian in Ossian and what type 135 00:09:11,755 --> 00:09:14,555 Speaker 3: of agreement we have with at least one of those nations, 136 00:09:14,555 --> 00:09:15,995 Speaker 3: and how many nations are in Ossian? 137 00:09:16,075 --> 00:09:19,235 Speaker 4: By the way, I couldn't tell you the exact equations is, 138 00:09:19,515 --> 00:09:21,795 Speaker 4: but I know we have allies in South Korea and 139 00:09:21,915 --> 00:09:25,395 Speaker 4: Japan and in August with Australia and trying to work 140 00:09:25,435 --> 00:09:26,435 Speaker 4: on submarines with. 141 00:09:26,435 --> 00:09:27,835 Speaker 2: Them, Miss France. 142 00:09:27,955 --> 00:09:31,595 Speaker 3: None of those countries as none of those three countries 143 00:09:31,595 --> 00:09:33,635 Speaker 3: that you've mentioned are in Ossian. I suggest you do 144 00:09:33,675 --> 00:09:38,195 Speaker 3: a little homework before you prepare for these types of negotiations. 145 00:09:38,395 --> 00:09:41,475 Speaker 1: But Hegxeth looks like an actor playing a defense official 146 00:09:41,515 --> 00:09:44,755 Speaker 1: in a movie Trump saw once, And since Trump doesn't 147 00:09:44,755 --> 00:09:47,155 Speaker 1: actually know how to interact with people, that's how he's 148 00:09:47,195 --> 00:09:51,315 Speaker 1: done this. Many conservatives have pointed this out. He's not 149 00:09:51,795 --> 00:09:56,515 Speaker 1: nominating people, he's casting them. I like the guy with 150 00:09:56,555 --> 00:10:01,675 Speaker 1: the bro cream. The FBI background check on Hegseeth does 151 00:10:01,715 --> 00:10:03,875 Speaker 1: not include interviews with his ex wives or the woman 152 00:10:03,875 --> 00:10:07,475 Speaker 1: who accused of sexual assault. Why does that sound familiar? 153 00:10:08,475 --> 00:10:10,755 Speaker 1: Trump has instructed his puppets in the Senate that even 154 00:10:10,835 --> 00:10:13,515 Speaker 1: they don't get to see that background check or anything 155 00:10:13,515 --> 00:10:17,155 Speaker 1: else from the FBI Armed Services Chair Roger Wicker and 156 00:10:17,195 --> 00:10:20,955 Speaker 1: the ranking Democrat Jack Read were given a briefing. There 157 00:10:20,995 --> 00:10:25,475 Speaker 1: was a Trump lackey monitoring the briefing. These two senators 158 00:10:25,475 --> 00:10:27,995 Speaker 1: could not take any notes, let alone a copy of 159 00:10:28,035 --> 00:10:32,515 Speaker 1: the file or photograph, as opposed to Trump, who could 160 00:10:32,515 --> 00:10:36,035 Speaker 1: of course take the file home and keep it in 161 00:10:36,075 --> 00:10:42,195 Speaker 1: his collection. As to Pam Bondy, they ran a bunch 162 00:10:42,195 --> 00:10:46,075 Speaker 1: of Trump's most heinous statements, threats, and promises passed her yesterday, 163 00:10:46,075 --> 00:10:48,075 Speaker 1: and what do you know, she'd never heard him say 164 00:10:48,195 --> 00:10:51,395 Speaker 1: any of them. She was one of his lawyers who 165 00:10:51,435 --> 00:10:53,435 Speaker 1: tried to overturn the election. Does she now admit he 166 00:10:53,515 --> 00:10:58,115 Speaker 1: lost twenty twenty? No, won't say that Biden is president. 167 00:10:58,195 --> 00:11:02,235 Speaker 1: That's as far as she'll go. Are the January sixth defendants, 168 00:11:02,275 --> 00:11:05,715 Speaker 1: hostages and political prisoners, as Trump said, Madam Oh, She's 169 00:11:05,835 --> 00:11:11,675 Speaker 1: unfamiliar with that statement, unfamiliar with Trump's call to get 170 00:11:11,715 --> 00:11:17,795 Speaker 1: more fake votes in Georgia. To be fair, I met 171 00:11:17,835 --> 00:11:22,315 Speaker 1: Pam Bondy. There is every chance she really is unfamiliar 172 00:11:22,315 --> 00:11:25,395 Speaker 1: with all that and unfamiliar with the relative whereabouts of 173 00:11:25,395 --> 00:11:28,595 Speaker 1: the ass and the elbow. I met her years ago 174 00:11:28,675 --> 00:11:31,075 Speaker 1: in a PBS studio in Tampa. I think, if I 175 00:11:31,075 --> 00:11:34,595 Speaker 1: remember correctly, she was there to comment on Cable TV 176 00:11:34,715 --> 00:11:37,795 Speaker 1: on one of those missing women tabloid cases. You can 177 00:11:37,835 --> 00:11:40,755 Speaker 1: trust me on this. The office of Attorney General of 178 00:11:40,755 --> 00:11:44,435 Speaker 1: the United States has of course been vacant since January 179 00:11:44,515 --> 00:11:48,995 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and if anybody can uphold that tradition of vacancy, 180 00:11:49,115 --> 00:11:54,355 Speaker 1: it's Pam Bondy. By her testimony yesterday, she is either 181 00:11:54,595 --> 00:11:57,595 Speaker 1: an utter liar or she has been in a coma 182 00:11:57,715 --> 00:12:01,835 Speaker 1: the last four years. Oh and by the way, it 183 00:12:01,875 --> 00:12:04,355 Speaker 1: doesn't look like she was asked about her endorsement by 184 00:12:04,435 --> 00:12:10,075 Speaker 1: j Bezos's Washington Post, Penny Saber and Hot Sex News, 185 00:12:10,075 --> 00:12:14,115 Speaker 1: specifically the part where Jeff Bezos's flunkies didn't mention in 186 00:12:14,395 --> 00:12:18,075 Speaker 1: that endorsement, that editorial saying she should be confirmed immediately 187 00:12:18,475 --> 00:12:25,315 Speaker 1: that the former lobbyist for Jeff Bezos's Amazon was Pam Bondy. 188 00:12:26,155 --> 00:12:28,235 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio does not seem to have been asked about 189 00:12:28,235 --> 00:12:31,755 Speaker 1: Trump announcing we have a hostage deal at noon yesterday 190 00:12:31,755 --> 00:12:33,875 Speaker 1: before any of the principles announced it, before our own 191 00:12:33,915 --> 00:12:39,395 Speaker 1: government announced it, thereby jeopardizing it. Mister combover designate was 192 00:12:39,395 --> 00:12:41,315 Speaker 1: not asked if he saw any parallels in this to 193 00:12:41,435 --> 00:12:44,715 Speaker 1: Richard Nixon's minions delaying a Vietnam deal in nineteen sixty 194 00:12:44,675 --> 00:12:47,195 Speaker 1: eight till after the election, then claiming credit for it, 195 00:12:47,795 --> 00:12:50,595 Speaker 1: or perhaps to Ronald Reagan's minions delaying an around hostage 196 00:12:50,595 --> 00:12:53,595 Speaker 1: deal in nineteen eighty until after the inauguration, then claiming 197 00:12:53,595 --> 00:12:59,155 Speaker 1: credit for that. Marco, though, does get credit for this. 198 00:13:00,155 --> 00:13:03,475 Speaker 1: To paraphrase Rodney Dangerfield is Thornton Mellon in Back to 199 00:13:03,515 --> 00:13:05,635 Speaker 1: School if you want to look smart, hang out with 200 00:13:05,675 --> 00:13:10,555 Speaker 1: a bunch of stupid people. Still, the dumbest of the 201 00:13:10,635 --> 00:13:15,675 Speaker 1: bunch is Director of National Intelligence nominee Tulsey Gabbard. And again, 202 00:13:15,955 --> 00:13:18,715 Speaker 1: if you talk about intelligence with Tulsey, you have to 203 00:13:18,755 --> 00:13:22,235 Speaker 1: remember that to her it is some sort of brand name, 204 00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:26,195 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal, not exactly the sort of liberal 205 00:13:26,235 --> 00:13:29,515 Speaker 1: media Hegseth had the gall to assault at his hearing 206 00:13:29,875 --> 00:13:32,755 Speaker 1: reports that in a meeting with Republican Senator James Langford, 207 00:13:32,875 --> 00:13:34,795 Speaker 1: who now says he's going to vote for her anyway, 208 00:13:35,075 --> 00:13:38,795 Speaker 1: he asked her what the job of Director of National 209 00:13:38,835 --> 00:13:43,715 Speaker 1: Intelligence entails, and her answer indicated she had no effing clue. 210 00:13:43,875 --> 00:13:47,875 Speaker 1: Then came a tough question from Senator Mike Rownds about 211 00:13:47,915 --> 00:13:54,635 Speaker 1: individual national security surveillance tools, and she did all but answer, oh, ahsion, 212 00:13:54,715 --> 00:13:59,595 Speaker 1: I thought you said Beer. The problem with the Democrats 213 00:13:59,675 --> 00:14:02,115 Speaker 1: is that they are wasting their questions largely going after 214 00:14:02,155 --> 00:14:06,275 Speaker 1: Trump by hitting Rubio Bondi and hegxith with things Trump 215 00:14:06,315 --> 00:14:09,315 Speaker 1: did or said or might do, instead of hitting Gabbard, 216 00:14:10,035 --> 00:14:12,795 Speaker 1: who doesn't know what job she's been nominated for, and 217 00:14:12,835 --> 00:14:15,475 Speaker 1: who with the right pressure in the right situation, might 218 00:14:15,835 --> 00:14:21,275 Speaker 1: not get approved. Politico reported that quote. One aid to 219 00:14:21,315 --> 00:14:25,115 Speaker 1: a senior lawmaker said in a secret ballot, she'd lose 220 00:14:25,275 --> 00:14:30,995 Speaker 1: fifteen Republicans. Other estimates have been far higher than that Republicans. 221 00:14:32,315 --> 00:14:35,035 Speaker 1: Senator Curtis of Utah actually went on the record and said, 222 00:14:35,155 --> 00:14:37,595 Speaker 1: it's not that she's uninformed, it's that she's not making 223 00:14:37,675 --> 00:14:40,395 Speaker 1: any effort to convince him he should vote for her. 224 00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:50,355 Speaker 1: Translation from Washington speak, she's lazy. She of course understands 225 00:14:50,395 --> 00:14:56,115 Speaker 1: none of this. Cliche is no pain, no gain. The 226 00:14:56,155 --> 00:14:58,755 Speaker 1: appropriate corollary for Tulsea Gabbard is. 227 00:15:00,515 --> 00:15:02,235 Speaker 2: No brain, no pain. 228 00:15:10,795 --> 00:15:12,955 Speaker 1: I think I know why Jack Smith released half his 229 00:15:13,035 --> 00:15:16,195 Speaker 1: Special Council Report overnight in case any of us were 230 00:15:16,235 --> 00:15:20,115 Speaker 1: having trouble sleeping and needed fresh boredom. I don't want 231 00:15:20,115 --> 00:15:23,635 Speaker 1: to knock Jacksmith. Along with Judge Chuckkinn, He's one of 232 00:15:23,675 --> 00:15:26,755 Speaker 1: just a few people supposedly on the side of the angels, 233 00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:30,835 Speaker 1: were just the law who not only did their job 234 00:15:30,875 --> 00:15:33,715 Speaker 1: without fear or reservation or any interest other than the 235 00:15:33,755 --> 00:15:36,915 Speaker 1: law and the truth. But the gist of what he 236 00:15:36,995 --> 00:15:40,275 Speaker 1: released amounted to we had strong evidence that Trump deliberately 237 00:15:40,275 --> 00:15:43,155 Speaker 1: did not stop the January sixth insurrection, but inspired it 238 00:15:43,195 --> 00:15:47,595 Speaker 1: and then leveraged it strong enough to convict I jack 239 00:15:47,595 --> 00:15:50,795 Speaker 1: Smith think so, and then he would have been ineligible 240 00:15:50,795 --> 00:15:51,715 Speaker 1: to return to power. 241 00:15:52,115 --> 00:15:55,595 Speaker 2: The end will good. 242 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,755 Speaker 1: I also think it would have been strong enough to convict. 243 00:15:59,675 --> 00:16:02,395 Speaker 1: And as we have seen here in New York, so 244 00:16:02,555 --> 00:16:05,675 Speaker 1: what as we have seen at the Supreme Court? 245 00:16:06,475 --> 00:16:06,795 Speaker 2: So what? 246 00:16:08,315 --> 00:16:11,915 Speaker 1: These aren't laws like we were all led to believe. 247 00:16:12,475 --> 00:16:15,715 Speaker 1: They aren't based on justice or even a justice neutral 248 00:16:15,795 --> 00:16:19,635 Speaker 1: set of just common sense rules, so everybody doesn't get 249 00:16:19,675 --> 00:16:22,235 Speaker 1: to pick which side of the street they want to 250 00:16:22,355 --> 00:16:27,835 Speaker 1: drive on each day. These laws are all catch twenty two. 251 00:16:27,915 --> 00:16:31,755 Speaker 1: They are designed to allow corrupt judges or corrupt Supreme 252 00:16:31,795 --> 00:16:34,795 Speaker 1: Court justices to insist that the same laws that apply 253 00:16:34,875 --> 00:16:36,955 Speaker 1: to you and would put your ass in jail do 254 00:16:37,075 --> 00:16:41,155 Speaker 1: not apply to their corrupt friends or appointers. 255 00:16:42,195 --> 00:16:42,835 Speaker 2: Or owners. 256 00:16:47,075 --> 00:16:49,235 Speaker 1: It just seemed to me that Jacksmith's final report might 257 00:16:49,275 --> 00:16:52,995 Speaker 1: have contained some of that evidence. I mean, even Pam 258 00:16:53,075 --> 00:16:56,835 Speaker 1: Bondi and Cash Patel are going to provide evidence real 259 00:16:57,115 --> 00:17:01,275 Speaker 1: or otherwise. I don't know what difference it would have 260 00:17:01,275 --> 00:17:04,195 Speaker 1: made in Smith's report. But maybe after Trump chooses which 261 00:17:04,275 --> 00:17:08,195 Speaker 1: path to authoritarianism he will send us down, and after 262 00:17:08,195 --> 00:17:11,595 Speaker 1: the inevitable blowback from those oppressed by it, and after 263 00:17:11,635 --> 00:17:14,475 Speaker 1: the forced change in power, and after whatever the next 264 00:17:14,515 --> 00:17:17,635 Speaker 1: generation here has to do that resembles eighteen sixty one 265 00:17:17,675 --> 00:17:21,275 Speaker 1: to eighteen sixty five to either regain freedom or protect it. 266 00:17:22,075 --> 00:17:25,475 Speaker 1: Maybe that evidence would be useful down the road someday, 267 00:17:26,395 --> 00:17:31,355 Speaker 1: whenever the printing of actual history books with the actual 268 00:17:31,435 --> 00:17:44,195 Speaker 1: history in them resumes. Now, at what point do we 269 00:17:44,235 --> 00:17:45,795 Speaker 1: have to assume the New York Times is doing what 270 00:17:45,835 --> 00:17:48,515 Speaker 1: the Washington Post has already done, and CNN has already done, 271 00:17:48,555 --> 00:17:50,875 Speaker 1: and what the La Times is doing, and what MSNBC 272 00:17:51,035 --> 00:17:54,755 Speaker 1: is threatening to do, bowing to Republicans to protect their 273 00:17:54,755 --> 00:17:58,435 Speaker 1: owner's billions, as if the bully will stop hitting you 274 00:17:58,595 --> 00:18:03,515 Speaker 1: just because you don't hit back. Times editorial on a 275 00:18:03,635 --> 00:18:08,275 Speaker 1: big idea to sell of America's immigration mess quote, Democrats 276 00:18:08,355 --> 00:18:11,195 Speaker 1: should embrace the need to control who enters the country. 277 00:18:11,275 --> 00:18:13,995 Speaker 1: The United States cannot admit everyone who wishes to come, 278 00:18:14,155 --> 00:18:16,435 Speaker 1: and the choice of who may come should be intentional, 279 00:18:16,835 --> 00:18:19,115 Speaker 1: not a result of a government's lack of will and 280 00:18:19,235 --> 00:18:24,635 Speaker 1: capacity to enforce its own laws. The highest number of 281 00:18:24,755 --> 00:18:28,475 Speaker 1: undocumented immigrants deported in this country in the last decade 282 00:18:28,795 --> 00:18:33,275 Speaker 1: was more than two hundred and fifty thousand in Czech's 283 00:18:33,275 --> 00:18:40,795 Speaker 1: calendar fiscal twoenty twenty four under the administration of Why 284 00:18:41,675 --> 00:18:46,635 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, But he's a Democrat. The Times just identified 285 00:18:46,635 --> 00:18:49,915 Speaker 1: the Democrats as the cause of all the border stuff, 286 00:18:50,995 --> 00:18:53,115 Speaker 1: and thus they went on to say the rise of 287 00:18:53,115 --> 00:18:58,155 Speaker 1: Trump and the Democrats are the reason that everything else bad, 288 00:18:58,235 --> 00:19:01,035 Speaker 1: including probably the New York City congestion pricing. That so 289 00:19:01,195 --> 00:19:04,555 Speaker 1: inconveniences the Times editorial board on their drive into town. 290 00:19:06,275 --> 00:19:09,555 Speaker 1: By the way, the previous high number for undocumented deportations 291 00:19:09,835 --> 00:19:16,435 Speaker 1: that was in twenty fourteen under that noted Republican Barack Obama. 292 00:19:16,755 --> 00:19:21,155 Speaker 1: The Times editorial is not just pandering to the right wing. 293 00:19:21,555 --> 00:19:27,355 Speaker 1: It's about as uninformed factually as Pete Hegseth was spouting 294 00:19:27,395 --> 00:19:30,115 Speaker 1: his liberal this and woke that at his hearing, and 295 00:19:30,155 --> 00:19:34,435 Speaker 1: that is a whole lot of uninformed. It's as uninformed 296 00:19:34,475 --> 00:19:38,155 Speaker 1: as Elon musk Hoist by his own petard, when he 297 00:19:38,195 --> 00:19:41,275 Speaker 1: took his collection of lies about the southern California firestorm 298 00:19:41,435 --> 00:19:44,675 Speaker 1: to a briefing given just to him that he put 299 00:19:44,715 --> 00:19:49,075 Speaker 1: live on his website from the Unified Command fire Center, 300 00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:57,915 Speaker 1: he spouted lie's internet gossip QAnon crap. They calmly refuted him. 301 00:19:57,915 --> 00:20:00,755 Speaker 1: They were so respectful that not one of them laughed 302 00:20:00,755 --> 00:20:02,715 Speaker 1: at him or hit him in the face with a 303 00:20:02,755 --> 00:20:07,755 Speaker 1: frying pan, And their answers were so calmly and authoritatively 304 00:20:07,835 --> 00:20:11,115 Speaker 1: honest that he had nothing to say other than goodbye, 305 00:20:12,195 --> 00:20:14,715 Speaker 1: Just like the psycho who walked into the DC Pizza 306 00:20:14,715 --> 00:20:17,315 Speaker 1: Parla years ago with a machine gun to free all 307 00:20:17,355 --> 00:20:20,675 Speaker 1: the babies in the basement. Oh, there aren't any babies, 308 00:20:21,435 --> 00:20:25,515 Speaker 1: and there isn't even any basement. Okay, I'll just leave now. 309 00:20:26,675 --> 00:20:31,675 Speaker 1: That's Elon Musk. Only Elon Musk wasn't armed either with 310 00:20:31,795 --> 00:20:33,955 Speaker 1: weapons or wits. 311 00:20:34,395 --> 00:20:34,675 Speaker 4: All right? 312 00:20:34,675 --> 00:20:37,635 Speaker 5: What about what about water availability? Was water availability I 313 00:20:37,795 --> 00:20:40,155 Speaker 5: understand that was like not an issue in Malbouy? 314 00:20:40,235 --> 00:20:40,755 Speaker 4: Is that correct? 315 00:20:41,115 --> 00:20:41,635 Speaker 5: Was it water? 316 00:20:42,075 --> 00:20:44,675 Speaker 2: Yeah? So there was water. 317 00:20:44,755 --> 00:20:46,435 Speaker 6: We have several reservoirs. 318 00:20:46,435 --> 00:20:47,875 Speaker 1: That knows that we use a lot. 319 00:20:48,195 --> 00:20:52,155 Speaker 7: Now, just an example, if we have one building learning 320 00:20:53,035 --> 00:20:54,755 Speaker 7: we could flow the thousand. 321 00:20:54,435 --> 00:20:56,115 Speaker 6: Gallons a minute on that one building. 322 00:20:56,275 --> 00:20:58,195 Speaker 7: With the hoseleys that we put in this up it, 323 00:20:58,635 --> 00:21:01,955 Speaker 7: you can imagine one thousand gallons per house we can do. Right, 324 00:21:01,995 --> 00:21:04,475 Speaker 7: So the amount of water we're flowing there really is 325 00:21:04,555 --> 00:21:06,955 Speaker 7: no water system that's going to keep that pace. 326 00:21:07,035 --> 00:21:07,995 Speaker 2: So we have to bring in. 327 00:21:07,955 --> 00:21:10,675 Speaker 7: Water tenders, which to these big tank water tanks that 328 00:21:10,795 --> 00:21:13,835 Speaker 7: you know, twenty five hundred and three thousand gallon trucks, 329 00:21:13,995 --> 00:21:14,635 Speaker 7: and they'll come in. 330 00:21:14,715 --> 00:21:17,115 Speaker 6: That's what we have to do to over to compensate. 331 00:21:17,155 --> 00:21:17,995 Speaker 1: So they park out. 332 00:21:17,915 --> 00:21:18,355 Speaker 5: There to do it. 333 00:21:18,675 --> 00:21:20,955 Speaker 7: DWTP did a great job. 334 00:21:20,995 --> 00:21:21,635 Speaker 1: They brought in. 335 00:21:22,315 --> 00:21:25,115 Speaker 7: Big water trucks for us, right, and we use them 336 00:21:25,155 --> 00:21:28,235 Speaker 7: as basically mobile hydrants, all right, Right, and then we 337 00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:31,915 Speaker 7: have our own agency as well that has water tenors. 338 00:21:32,195 --> 00:21:35,355 Speaker 5: Okay, I am I saying? Is that that like along 339 00:21:35,435 --> 00:21:39,595 Speaker 5: the maybe correct if I'm wrong? Along in Malibury along 340 00:21:39,675 --> 00:21:42,915 Speaker 5: the coast, there was no shortage of water in the palistage. 341 00:21:42,915 --> 00:21:45,155 Speaker 5: There was a shortage of water at a certain point 342 00:21:45,875 --> 00:21:46,475 Speaker 5: or is that not? 343 00:21:46,715 --> 00:21:50,915 Speaker 6: Well, we were just we were flowing just an amount 344 00:21:50,955 --> 00:21:54,115 Speaker 6: of amount of water that the system couldn't overbed. It 345 00:21:54,275 --> 00:21:57,755 Speaker 6: was very just because of how much water these firefighters 346 00:21:58,075 --> 00:21:58,875 Speaker 6: were utilizing. 347 00:21:59,115 --> 00:22:06,595 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, that was good, All right, thanks guys. 348 00:22:07,235 --> 00:22:10,475 Speaker 1: Musk at best sounds like a seven year old who 349 00:22:10,515 --> 00:22:13,875 Speaker 1: just found out there's no santi. By the way, that 350 00:22:13,955 --> 00:22:16,475 Speaker 1: guy I mentioned who went into the DC pizza parlor, 351 00:22:17,035 --> 00:22:20,435 Speaker 1: he's dead now pulled out a weapon during a routine 352 00:22:20,515 --> 00:22:24,115 Speaker 1: traffic stop. Cops were better at all that stuff than 353 00:22:24,115 --> 00:22:29,715 Speaker 1: he was, so sometimes it works out. Still, the line 354 00:22:29,755 --> 00:22:34,715 Speaker 1: continues on Musk's site. There is a social media influencer. 355 00:22:35,475 --> 00:22:37,595 Speaker 1: I think we need to drop that pleasant euphemism and 356 00:22:37,635 --> 00:22:40,755 Speaker 1: call them what they are. Salespeople were shills or propagandists. 357 00:22:41,075 --> 00:22:45,635 Speaker 1: There's a social media shill from Washington State called Mela 358 00:22:45,875 --> 00:22:49,395 Speaker 1: Joy or Mila Joy or I don't know, and she 359 00:22:49,555 --> 00:22:51,395 Speaker 1: was one of many who got hold of this one 360 00:22:51,515 --> 00:22:53,235 Speaker 1: line and put it out as if it were true. 361 00:22:53,235 --> 00:22:58,235 Speaker 1: No source, no link, just Mila Joy's possibly AI generated, 362 00:22:58,315 --> 00:23:05,315 Speaker 1: fake looking face. Oregon sent sixty fire trucks to California. 363 00:23:05,475 --> 00:23:07,995 Speaker 1: California won't let them into the state because California is 364 00:23:08,035 --> 00:23:10,635 Speaker 1: unsure of emissions on the trucks. California is a joke. 365 00:23:10,675 --> 00:23:15,755 Speaker 1: Get out while you can. The Oregon State Fire Marshall 366 00:23:15,875 --> 00:23:19,955 Speaker 1: saw this. After two hundred and forty seven thousand views, 367 00:23:20,795 --> 00:23:23,635 Speaker 1: we sent seventy five fire engines. Your statement about our 368 00:23:23,675 --> 00:23:27,355 Speaker 1: teams not being allowed into California is false. Our teams 369 00:23:27,435 --> 00:23:30,075 Speaker 1: arrived yesterday and are working around the clock to help 370 00:23:30,115 --> 00:23:37,875 Speaker 1: our neighbors. Mila Joy deleted her post. Terrific, right, I 371 00:23:37,915 --> 00:23:44,315 Speaker 1: can progress here one down, five hundred billion deletions to go. 372 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:50,955 Speaker 1: Also of interest here the other shoe dropped in my 373 00:23:51,075 --> 00:23:57,155 Speaker 1: ex's story. Oh yeah, which ex? Wey Elser, the one 374 00:23:57,195 --> 00:24:00,595 Speaker 1: who tried to get her fiance arrested? And phew here 375 00:24:00,715 --> 00:24:04,595 Speaker 1: it wasn't me and I had such a momentary thrill. 376 00:24:05,035 --> 00:24:12,555 Speaker 1: Lawrence O'Donnell's last interview, he's leaving MSNBC two. No, I 377 00:24:12,555 --> 00:24:17,475 Speaker 1: read it wrong. It's Joe Biden's last interview. He's leaving, 378 00:24:18,235 --> 00:24:22,355 Speaker 1: and unfortunately O'Donnell is staying. That's next. This is countdown. 379 00:24:24,515 --> 00:24:28,795 Speaker 2: This is Countdown with Keith Oberman, my crazy friend. 380 00:24:49,155 --> 00:24:51,995 Speaker 1: Still ahead on Countdown. So I read this headline about 381 00:24:52,075 --> 00:24:56,595 Speaker 1: Lawrence O'Donnell doing the last interview with President Biden, and 382 00:24:56,635 --> 00:25:01,995 Speaker 1: I thought, cool, Lawrence o'donald is doing his last interview. 383 00:25:02,555 --> 00:25:04,155 Speaker 1: They're getting rid of him, like they got rid of 384 00:25:04,395 --> 00:25:10,515 Speaker 1: Alex Wagner. Imagine my disappointment when it turned out they 385 00:25:10,595 --> 00:25:16,395 Speaker 1: meant Joe's last interview, not O'Donnell's. Lawrence is a guy 386 00:25:16,435 --> 00:25:18,395 Speaker 1: who tried to take Countdown away from me while I 387 00:25:18,435 --> 00:25:20,795 Speaker 1: was on a leave of absence as my father was dying, 388 00:25:22,035 --> 00:25:22,875 Speaker 1: and when he did not. 389 00:25:22,875 --> 00:25:23,515 Speaker 2: Succeed, he SAINMP. 390 00:25:23,555 --> 00:25:26,835 Speaker 1: We took and stole some of the producers, took them 391 00:25:26,835 --> 00:25:29,435 Speaker 1: to a new show that was created so his boss 392 00:25:29,475 --> 00:25:31,915 Speaker 1: could explain to the new owners that he the boss, 393 00:25:32,315 --> 00:25:36,795 Speaker 1: was not utterly inert and unnecessary, but actually had done things, 394 00:25:37,995 --> 00:25:40,155 Speaker 1: considering he had nothing to do with starting my show 395 00:25:40,235 --> 00:25:45,075 Speaker 1: or meadows. And that's just the beginning of the saga 396 00:25:45,155 --> 00:25:51,195 Speaker 1: of mister Smarmy, the man we called load Lawrence O'Donnell 397 00:25:52,275 --> 00:25:55,195 Speaker 1: ahead and things I promised not to tell first. There 398 00:25:55,235 --> 00:25:57,115 Speaker 1: are still more new idiots to talk about, the daily 399 00:25:57,155 --> 00:25:59,995 Speaker 1: roundup of the miss Grants, morons, Undonning Krueger effect specimens 400 00:25:59,995 --> 00:26:02,355 Speaker 1: who constitute today's other. 401 00:26:02,795 --> 00:26:08,195 Speaker 2: Worse persons in the world World the Bronze worse. 402 00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:12,515 Speaker 1: This got almost no attention, And you'll forgive me if 403 00:26:12,515 --> 00:26:14,835 Speaker 1: it's a story that I pay more attention to than 404 00:26:14,915 --> 00:26:19,915 Speaker 1: you do. But the worse is my ex Olivia. The 405 00:26:19,955 --> 00:26:23,675 Speaker 1: body count is now complete at three. We think it's complete. 406 00:26:23,675 --> 00:26:27,955 Speaker 1: Who knows RFK Junior now forever to be foddled around 407 00:26:27,955 --> 00:26:30,515 Speaker 1: by an image of him in your mind on FaceTime 408 00:26:30,795 --> 00:26:34,035 Speaker 1: while holding his phone in one hand and holding his 409 00:26:35,755 --> 00:26:40,675 Speaker 1: RFK junior junior in the other. Obviously, the second body 410 00:26:40,755 --> 00:26:44,355 Speaker 1: is Newzy herself, because if a guy can get stuck 411 00:26:44,435 --> 00:26:48,915 Speaker 1: to a masturbation scandal, it will always be worse for 412 00:26:48,955 --> 00:26:49,395 Speaker 1: a woman. 413 00:26:50,115 --> 00:26:50,755 Speaker 2: That's unfair. 414 00:26:50,795 --> 00:26:54,595 Speaker 1: It should be exactly the same, utter slimy humiliation because 415 00:26:54,595 --> 00:26:57,075 Speaker 1: it was somebody she was writing an article on for 416 00:26:57,155 --> 00:27:02,635 Speaker 1: a mid level magazine. The magazine and Olivia reached some 417 00:27:02,795 --> 00:27:04,675 Speaker 1: kind of deal and she moved on. But her career 418 00:27:04,915 --> 00:27:08,195 Speaker 1: in tatters should be. And while there is speculation she 419 00:27:08,315 --> 00:27:10,675 Speaker 1: may be able to go back a notch and write 420 00:27:10,715 --> 00:27:13,995 Speaker 1: something again for somebody else, she will never shake this. 421 00:27:15,115 --> 00:27:19,715 Speaker 1: Never ask Jeff Tubin, ask the late pee Weee Herman, 422 00:27:20,275 --> 00:27:26,555 Speaker 1: and neither of those involved their work, never hers was 423 00:27:26,675 --> 00:27:31,475 Speaker 1: part of a reporting assignment as a news reporter. And 424 00:27:31,595 --> 00:27:33,755 Speaker 1: one thing has not changed about Olivia. And since she 425 00:27:33,915 --> 00:27:37,275 Speaker 1: was eighteen years old, was she ever holier than now 426 00:27:37,315 --> 00:27:40,995 Speaker 1: about being a reporter. She was a reporter. She went 427 00:27:41,035 --> 00:27:46,555 Speaker 1: out and got stories. I just read the teleprompter. Now 428 00:27:46,555 --> 00:27:49,395 Speaker 1: there is another option for her. She can go where 429 00:27:49,395 --> 00:27:55,035 Speaker 1: all disgraced x real reporters go, right wing media. They'll 430 00:27:55,035 --> 00:27:57,635 Speaker 1: take her in and proclaim her a liberal journalist who's 431 00:27:57,635 --> 00:28:00,915 Speaker 1: seen the lights and and and Barry Weiss and and 432 00:28:02,395 --> 00:28:06,195 Speaker 1: it would be a step down from masturbating on FaceTime 433 00:28:06,235 --> 00:28:09,035 Speaker 1: with a presidential candidate. But I suppose it would be 434 00:28:09,075 --> 00:28:12,315 Speaker 1: a living anyway, I said. The body count was now 435 00:28:12,355 --> 00:28:15,435 Speaker 1: complete at three, and nobody had noticed the third one, 436 00:28:16,075 --> 00:28:19,955 Speaker 1: the ex fiancee, the one she used to call her 437 00:28:20,075 --> 00:28:24,915 Speaker 1: stalker in Washington. Politico got away with deftly announcing this 438 00:28:25,035 --> 00:28:29,075 Speaker 1: move in the least institutionally damaging way possible. I'll just 439 00:28:29,195 --> 00:28:34,115 Speaker 1: read their forty two word announcements. Ryan Liza, who came 440 00:28:34,155 --> 00:28:36,995 Speaker 1: out of the magazine world and captures the essence of 441 00:28:37,035 --> 00:28:39,915 Speaker 1: people and ideas as well as anyone in the business. 442 00:28:42,155 --> 00:28:44,075 Speaker 1: If that's true, how did this thing happen with his 443 00:28:44,235 --> 00:28:48,475 Speaker 1: fiance and in the business? Is going to be doing 444 00:28:48,515 --> 00:28:52,635 Speaker 1: that in our pages with a special emphasis on contributing 445 00:28:52,675 --> 00:28:55,195 Speaker 1: to Politico magazine. 446 00:28:55,635 --> 00:28:57,155 Speaker 2: No mention that. 447 00:28:57,195 --> 00:29:01,035 Speaker 1: Liza has been demoted from the editor of the Politico 448 00:29:01,235 --> 00:29:05,955 Speaker 1: wildly and inexplicably popular aggregation daily news letter. And after 449 00:29:06,035 --> 00:29:09,275 Speaker 1: a leave of absence for about three months, and after 450 00:29:09,315 --> 00:29:12,195 Speaker 1: two lawsuits and having to answer Newsy's charges that he 451 00:29:12,235 --> 00:29:15,755 Speaker 1: blackmailed her into sex and her intention to get the 452 00:29:15,835 --> 00:29:20,035 Speaker 1: FBI involved, in the investigation at the sex I think. 453 00:29:21,515 --> 00:29:21,595 Speaker 5: So. 454 00:29:21,715 --> 00:29:26,155 Speaker 1: A presidential candidate is now an online whanker. A genuinely 455 00:29:26,275 --> 00:29:29,995 Speaker 1: brilliant writer is unemployed and maybe going to stay that way. 456 00:29:30,795 --> 00:29:33,235 Speaker 1: And this guy who was a star writer for The 457 00:29:33,275 --> 00:29:36,915 Speaker 1: New Yorker before he met her is now a contributor 458 00:29:37,035 --> 00:29:45,635 Speaker 1: to Politico's Nietzsch side site Politico Magazine. Yesh oh, And 459 00:29:45,715 --> 00:29:48,195 Speaker 1: over here on the side there's me and the Dogs 460 00:29:48,995 --> 00:29:55,595 Speaker 1: shrug emoji. The runner up warsa Dakota Lee Dilly. Dakota 461 00:29:55,755 --> 00:29:59,435 Speaker 1: is what the online folk call a rando. He identifies 462 00:29:59,515 --> 00:30:04,435 Speaker 1: as an Ohio State football fan from Zanesville, Ohio. Somebody 463 00:30:04,475 --> 00:30:06,635 Speaker 1: meant Cincinnelia that next Monday is a huge day for 464 00:30:06,715 --> 00:30:10,755 Speaker 1: Ohio State football fans. Their team plays for the national championship, 465 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:17,875 Speaker 1: and Trump's going to pardon January sixth. AnyWho, this Dakota 466 00:30:17,995 --> 00:30:20,955 Speaker 1: Lee Dilly not only has a name out of the 467 00:30:20,995 --> 00:30:24,675 Speaker 1: best of political satire, he's one of those dudes who's 468 00:30:24,715 --> 00:30:29,835 Speaker 1: post on Elon Mush's fascist propaganda site. Usually they head 469 00:30:29,875 --> 00:30:33,675 Speaker 1: off into the universe without making any impression whatsoever. Well, 470 00:30:33,675 --> 00:30:35,755 Speaker 1: we're going to change that because I happen to see it. 471 00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:42,555 Speaker 1: News Wire posted Pete Hegseth says US military bases should 472 00:30:42,555 --> 00:30:47,835 Speaker 1: restore names of Confederate generals and Dakota Lee. Dilly retweeted 473 00:30:47,875 --> 00:30:55,035 Speaker 1: this with perhaps the most rationalization of all rationalizations. They 474 00:30:55,035 --> 00:30:58,235 Speaker 1: were American generals before the Civil War. They were commanders 475 00:30:58,275 --> 00:31:01,435 Speaker 1: during the Mexican War. Many of them advised the Cuban 476 00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:05,555 Speaker 1: Spanish American War. They took a loyalty oath. Yes they 477 00:31:05,595 --> 00:31:09,275 Speaker 1: committed sedition. Yes they committed treason, but they were damn 478 00:31:09,355 --> 00:31:14,475 Speaker 1: good commanders. And Lincoln said as much himself else heir, 479 00:31:14,755 --> 00:31:17,275 Speaker 1: among other things. No, none of them were American generals 480 00:31:17,315 --> 00:31:21,035 Speaker 1: before the Civil War, not even Robert E. Lee, for 481 00:31:21,115 --> 00:31:22,435 Speaker 1: whom there is no Robert E. 482 00:31:22,515 --> 00:31:26,715 Speaker 2: Lee base. Fort Lee, New Jersey, is not a base. 483 00:31:27,915 --> 00:31:28,355 Speaker 2: Robert E. 484 00:31:28,435 --> 00:31:31,515 Speaker 1: Lee was a lieutenant colonel just before he began committing treason. 485 00:31:31,715 --> 00:31:34,755 Speaker 1: Lincoln promoted him to colonel and offered him promotion to 486 00:31:34,795 --> 00:31:37,875 Speaker 1: major general. But these other guys, they weren't generals either, 487 00:31:38,395 --> 00:31:41,475 Speaker 1: nor were they good commanders. In fact, Braxton Bragg, for 488 00:31:41,555 --> 00:31:45,435 Speaker 1: whom Fort Bragg was named largely because it's near where 489 00:31:45,475 --> 00:31:48,875 Speaker 1: Bragg was from, he was an idiot who lost nearly 490 00:31:48,915 --> 00:31:51,835 Speaker 1: all of his battles and whose eyebrows were so thick 491 00:31:51,875 --> 00:31:54,475 Speaker 1: and his brow was so prominent he was often described 492 00:31:54,515 --> 00:31:58,435 Speaker 1: as a monkey with a gun. But the money shot 493 00:31:58,475 --> 00:32:01,755 Speaker 1: from Dakota Lee Dilley is this part quote. Yes they 494 00:32:01,795 --> 00:32:05,395 Speaker 1: committed sedition, Yes they committed treason, but they were damn 495 00:32:05,475 --> 00:32:09,315 Speaker 1: good commanders. That might as well be the official motto 496 00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:12,715 Speaker 1: of the incoming Trump kunta. If you're looking for a 497 00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:18,915 Speaker 1: guy to staff out your pentagon, Pete Hegseeth secretary of 498 00:32:18,915 --> 00:32:24,035 Speaker 1: bril Cream, look this guy, Dakota Lee Dilley up if 499 00:32:24,035 --> 00:32:26,275 Speaker 1: you can pry him away from Ohio State football highlights. 500 00:32:28,075 --> 00:32:31,155 Speaker 1: Yes they committed sedition, they committed treason, but they had 501 00:32:31,155 --> 00:32:34,235 Speaker 1: good points too. But the winner, how about how about 502 00:32:34,315 --> 00:32:39,435 Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald getting recognition he was a marine, the 503 00:32:39,515 --> 00:32:45,715 Speaker 1: Lee Harvey Oswald elite Corps under Trump. But the winners 504 00:32:45,835 --> 00:32:49,835 Speaker 1: the worst together again for the first time, absolutely the 505 00:32:49,915 --> 00:32:55,275 Speaker 1: two most self applauding newspeople I have ever met, I mean, 506 00:32:55,355 --> 00:33:02,555 Speaker 1: worse than Joe Scarborough, Chuck Todd and Dan Abrams. Now 507 00:33:02,555 --> 00:33:05,235 Speaker 1: I've told the story about Dan Abrams before. Were named 508 00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:08,955 Speaker 1: general manager of MSNBC. On June twelfth, two oh two 509 00:33:08,995 --> 00:33:11,995 Speaker 1: thousand and six, at nine am, told by his bosses 510 00:33:11,995 --> 00:33:14,235 Speaker 1: that all his power was being stripped from him as 511 00:33:14,315 --> 00:33:17,595 Speaker 1: general manager of MSNBC. Also on June twelfth, two thousand 512 00:33:17,595 --> 00:33:20,515 Speaker 1: and six, at four pm. 513 00:33:20,155 --> 00:33:22,275 Speaker 2: Chuck Todd you know he's Chuck Todd. 514 00:33:23,275 --> 00:33:25,875 Speaker 1: Chuck is saying now that he's moving on from NBC 515 00:33:25,995 --> 00:33:27,195 Speaker 1: when his contract expires. 516 00:33:27,235 --> 00:33:28,515 Speaker 2: The response to which has been. 517 00:33:28,555 --> 00:33:30,755 Speaker 1: They didn't fire him when they fired him from Meet 518 00:33:30,795 --> 00:33:34,635 Speaker 1: the Press. They've been paying him all this time. Man, 519 00:33:34,715 --> 00:33:36,995 Speaker 1: I had a job like that once with Fox. 520 00:33:36,875 --> 00:33:38,115 Speaker 2: Best job I ever had. 521 00:33:38,595 --> 00:33:40,115 Speaker 1: How much money are you gonna give me to not 522 00:33:40,235 --> 00:33:41,475 Speaker 1: do anything for anybody? 523 00:33:41,875 --> 00:33:42,155 Speaker 3: Cool? 524 00:33:43,395 --> 00:33:47,035 Speaker 1: Well, now these two great overrated, self absorbed hair challenge 525 00:33:47,115 --> 00:33:50,555 Speaker 1: morons have joined forces in a way, and the sum 526 00:33:50,675 --> 00:33:53,915 Speaker 1: is lesser than the parts. I'll just read the version 527 00:33:53,915 --> 00:33:57,875 Speaker 1: of this on mediaite dot com. That's Mediaite founded by 528 00:33:57,995 --> 00:34:02,475 Speaker 1: Dan Abrams, because mediaite is what the dan Abrams is 529 00:34:02,515 --> 00:34:06,875 Speaker 1: of this world think. Is a clever a clever pun 530 00:34:07,035 --> 00:34:14,755 Speaker 1: or play on the word media eight meteorite, meditate who 531 00:34:14,795 --> 00:34:19,275 Speaker 1: knows quote on My News Nation show, I went after 532 00:34:19,355 --> 00:34:21,395 Speaker 1: NBC and Chuck Todd when they announced that he was 533 00:34:21,435 --> 00:34:23,555 Speaker 1: stepping down his host to Beat the Press last year 534 00:34:23,595 --> 00:34:26,635 Speaker 1: were actually in twenty twenty three, and my criticism was 535 00:34:26,755 --> 00:34:28,795 Speaker 1: that a news operation that is supposed to be seeking 536 00:34:28,835 --> 00:34:31,115 Speaker 1: out the truth and providing its viewers and readers with 537 00:34:31,155 --> 00:34:34,755 Speaker 1: accurate information calling out fact from fiction almost certainly, and 538 00:34:34,755 --> 00:34:38,195 Speaker 1: now we know why they created a fictionalized version of 539 00:34:38,235 --> 00:34:41,995 Speaker 1: what happened with Chuck Todd. I should just mention here 540 00:34:42,555 --> 00:34:46,835 Speaker 1: that this idea of seeking accurate information all the rest 541 00:34:46,875 --> 00:34:49,675 Speaker 1: of us hosts there at MSNBC. When Dan used to 542 00:34:49,675 --> 00:34:53,675 Speaker 1: host The Missing White Women of the Day show, were 543 00:34:53,755 --> 00:34:57,115 Speaker 1: warned by mid level managers and staffers on his own 544 00:34:57,155 --> 00:34:59,795 Speaker 1: show that maybe we should not quote him with some 545 00:34:59,835 --> 00:35:02,075 Speaker 1: of the stories that he was breaking because they were 546 00:35:02,075 --> 00:35:05,075 Speaker 1: from dubious sources. All I know is most to them 547 00:35:05,315 --> 00:35:10,115 Speaker 1: never panned out. Abrams also goes on to submit that 548 00:35:10,195 --> 00:35:12,995 Speaker 1: Todd quote was forced out of his role and replaced 549 00:35:12,995 --> 00:35:15,395 Speaker 1: with Kristin Welker, and to insist that the statements issued 550 00:35:15,395 --> 00:35:17,995 Speaker 1: by both Todd and NBC at the time were untrue. 551 00:35:18,235 --> 00:35:20,715 Speaker 1: They should not be lying to us, he said, before 552 00:35:20,715 --> 00:35:22,515 Speaker 1: going on to make the case that Todd was a 553 00:35:22,515 --> 00:35:26,835 Speaker 1: better host of the show than Welker. Now, Chuck Todd 554 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,555 Speaker 1: was much better at hosting Meet the Press than Kristin Welker, 555 00:35:30,235 --> 00:35:36,235 Speaker 1: he asked smarter follow up questions, the show was more interesting. Well, 556 00:35:36,275 --> 00:35:39,755 Speaker 1: that's clear and convincing evidence. Abrams went on to argue 557 00:35:39,755 --> 00:35:41,995 Speaker 1: that Todd ultimately lost his role because he was tough 558 00:35:42,115 --> 00:35:46,835 Speaker 1: on both conservatives and liberals and therefore didn't have a 559 00:35:46,875 --> 00:35:50,635 Speaker 1: political community behind him. Has nothing to do with that, 560 00:35:50,675 --> 00:35:52,475 Speaker 1: of course, It was that he stunk at this and 561 00:35:52,555 --> 00:35:56,675 Speaker 1: let everybody get away with everything, especially the conservatives, because 562 00:35:56,675 --> 00:36:00,315 Speaker 1: he tried to balance everything, including oh, over here is 563 00:36:00,355 --> 00:36:02,595 Speaker 1: a misstatement by a Democrat. 564 00:36:02,155 --> 00:36:08,195 Speaker 2: And over here is a treason. They're the same thing quote. 565 00:36:08,195 --> 00:36:09,955 Speaker 1: And in the world we live in now, that is 566 00:36:09,995 --> 00:36:12,115 Speaker 1: a negative that is now held against you. And so 567 00:36:12,155 --> 00:36:14,355 Speaker 1: now Meet the Press as someone hosting the show who 568 00:36:14,395 --> 00:36:18,075 Speaker 1: is less good by any objective assessment than Chuck Todd was, 569 00:36:18,395 --> 00:36:20,755 Speaker 1: Abram said. And talk to people who were fans of 570 00:36:20,795 --> 00:36:23,955 Speaker 1: Meet the Press, who are who aren't overt political partisans, 571 00:36:24,075 --> 00:36:25,875 Speaker 1: and they'll just tell you the show was a smarter 572 00:36:25,995 --> 00:36:28,355 Speaker 1: show when Chuck Todd was there. So bottom line is, 573 00:36:28,475 --> 00:36:35,275 Speaker 1: whoever gets Chuck Todd I think will be lucky. There 574 00:36:35,275 --> 00:36:38,195 Speaker 1: are fans of Meet the Press who are not overt 575 00:36:38,195 --> 00:36:41,515 Speaker 1: political partisans. There are people who watch political shows who 576 00:36:41,515 --> 00:36:45,115 Speaker 1: are not overt political partisans. Part of some sort of 577 00:36:45,195 --> 00:36:49,035 Speaker 1: work release program, community service. You are sentenced to four 578 00:36:49,115 --> 00:36:51,915 Speaker 1: hundred hours of watching Meet the Press and the other 579 00:36:51,995 --> 00:36:52,875 Speaker 1: Sunday shows. 580 00:36:53,355 --> 00:36:58,635 Speaker 2: No, but here's the gist. This went by in a hurry. 581 00:36:58,675 --> 00:37:03,355 Speaker 1: Here he's complaining that NBC lied about firing Chuck and 582 00:37:03,435 --> 00:37:06,115 Speaker 1: made it look like he was step aside and made 583 00:37:06,155 --> 00:37:07,595 Speaker 1: it look like he was going to leave at the 584 00:37:07,675 --> 00:37:10,195 Speaker 1: end of his contract like a year and a half later. 585 00:37:11,035 --> 00:37:14,275 Speaker 1: They actually provided Chuck Todd with a minor fig leaf 586 00:37:14,675 --> 00:37:16,355 Speaker 1: about his career and about his ego. 587 00:37:16,795 --> 00:37:18,995 Speaker 2: And that's a bad thing by them. 588 00:37:19,555 --> 00:37:22,515 Speaker 1: I mean, I have no respect for NBC, but this 589 00:37:22,555 --> 00:37:24,275 Speaker 1: is one of the rare good things they have done 590 00:37:24,315 --> 00:37:28,115 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years, as opposed to the fig 591 00:37:28,195 --> 00:37:30,275 Speaker 1: leaf they gave Dan Abrams, which he now wears on 592 00:37:30,355 --> 00:37:33,955 Speaker 1: his head. I mean, when they finally fired Dan Abrams 593 00:37:34,035 --> 00:37:37,475 Speaker 1: as general manager in October two thousand and seven by 594 00:37:37,555 --> 00:37:39,835 Speaker 1: letting him claim he just missed being on the. 595 00:37:39,795 --> 00:37:40,595 Speaker 2: Air too much. 596 00:37:41,635 --> 00:37:45,075 Speaker 1: It's absolutely possible they actually waited long enough sixteen months 597 00:37:45,115 --> 00:37:48,115 Speaker 1: for Danny to realize he had a title, but after 598 00:37:48,155 --> 00:37:51,115 Speaker 1: the first few hours, no job other than to provide laughs. 599 00:37:51,155 --> 00:37:52,515 Speaker 2: For the MSNBC staff. 600 00:37:52,675 --> 00:37:55,195 Speaker 1: But this idea, we can't fire him now, We'll just 601 00:37:55,275 --> 00:37:56,875 Speaker 1: keep him in the job and then put him on 602 00:37:56,915 --> 00:37:59,275 Speaker 1: the air so then he can say he missed being 603 00:37:59,315 --> 00:38:02,475 Speaker 1: on the air. That was voiced by MSNBC management to 604 00:38:02,555 --> 00:38:06,355 Speaker 1: all the producers at MSNBC within a week of his appointment. 605 00:38:07,515 --> 00:38:08,635 Speaker 2: I mean, doesn't he know that. 606 00:38:10,275 --> 00:38:14,795 Speaker 1: They lied about him too twice? Chuck, Todd and Dan 607 00:38:15,315 --> 00:38:17,915 Speaker 1: now meet the press as someone hosting the show who 608 00:38:17,955 --> 00:38:21,315 Speaker 1: was less good by any objective assessment, because Dan Abrams 609 00:38:21,315 --> 00:38:24,235 Speaker 1: doesn't remember that his idea of an objective assessment was 610 00:38:24,275 --> 00:38:28,195 Speaker 1: his idea for MSNBC's new catchphrase, should be keeping it real. 611 00:38:28,875 --> 00:38:52,395 Speaker 1: Abrams two days Worst Persons and Noor. Now to the 612 00:38:52,475 --> 00:38:54,955 Speaker 1: number one story on the countdown on my favorite topic, 613 00:38:55,115 --> 00:38:58,115 Speaker 1: Me and Things I promised not to tell. Early on 614 00:38:58,195 --> 00:39:02,475 Speaker 1: the afternoon of Monday May twenty third, twenty sixteen, I 615 00:39:02,715 --> 00:39:05,395 Speaker 1: bounced out of my New York City apartment building, began 616 00:39:05,435 --> 00:39:09,515 Speaker 1: to walk past the tourist trap brunch spot in the lobby, 617 00:39:10,155 --> 00:39:14,275 Speaker 1: and froze there at one of the cramped outdoor tables, 618 00:39:14,315 --> 00:39:17,755 Speaker 1: staring up at me in blank surprise that must have 619 00:39:17,835 --> 00:39:20,235 Speaker 1: matched my own staring down at him in blank surprise 620 00:39:21,275 --> 00:39:26,435 Speaker 1: was Laurence O'Donnell. I decided to go silly, Hey, get 621 00:39:26,435 --> 00:39:29,835 Speaker 1: out of my house. He laughed, I laughed. It didn't 622 00:39:29,835 --> 00:39:33,635 Speaker 1: seem forced. He introduced me to his companion, his daughter. 623 00:39:34,315 --> 00:39:37,835 Speaker 1: This my dear is Keith Ulderman. Keith started us all 624 00:39:37,835 --> 00:39:41,515 Speaker 1: at MSNBC, and then he left, and and here Lawrence 625 00:39:41,555 --> 00:39:46,515 Speaker 1: gave one of his long pauses, and we crashed it. 626 00:39:48,155 --> 00:39:51,435 Speaker 1: I wanted to be generous. I started to politely contradict him, 627 00:39:51,475 --> 00:39:56,315 Speaker 1: and I just couldn't do it. Hum yeah, pretty much anyway, 628 00:39:57,275 --> 00:40:00,355 Speaker 1: About thirty seconds of courteous nothingness followed, and I wish 629 00:40:00,435 --> 00:40:03,915 Speaker 1: the O'Donnell's well, and then I left. It was the 630 00:40:03,995 --> 00:40:07,835 Speaker 1: most pleasant experience I ever had with Lawrence o'donald. In fact, 631 00:40:07,875 --> 00:40:10,355 Speaker 1: it might have been the only pleasant experience I ever 632 00:40:10,395 --> 00:40:15,395 Speaker 1: had with Lawrence O'Donnell. After I finally convinced and bullied 633 00:40:15,475 --> 00:40:19,395 Speaker 1: and blackmailed MSNBC management into letting Rachel Meadow become the 634 00:40:19,435 --> 00:40:22,035 Speaker 1: regular guest host for my show, and she aced it 635 00:40:22,515 --> 00:40:25,395 Speaker 1: and then rightly got her own show, and she aced 636 00:40:25,435 --> 00:40:29,475 Speaker 1: that and became a star. I went looking for a 637 00:40:29,475 --> 00:40:32,075 Speaker 1: new guest host. My first idea was a frequent guest 638 00:40:32,115 --> 00:40:35,835 Speaker 1: we had named Chris Hayes. I didn't get far. Management 639 00:40:35,875 --> 00:40:38,675 Speaker 1: had its own idea and my input was not required. 640 00:40:39,075 --> 00:40:43,275 Speaker 1: They wanted former Vermont governor and Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean. 641 00:40:44,195 --> 00:40:47,275 Speaker 1: And Howard is a really smart guy and great on TV. 642 00:40:47,755 --> 00:40:50,915 Speaker 1: But Howard had a bit of a teleprompter problem. One 643 00:40:50,955 --> 00:40:55,075 Speaker 1: of my producers swears that Howard once read good Evening. 644 00:40:55,075 --> 00:40:59,675 Speaker 1: I'm Howard Dean, former governor of Vermont. This is countdown. 645 00:41:01,195 --> 00:41:01,675 Speaker 2: I do know. 646 00:41:01,915 --> 00:41:03,915 Speaker 1: Whatever he did on the air, it was bad enough 647 00:41:03,915 --> 00:41:06,235 Speaker 1: that one week when I was off and at the 648 00:41:06,235 --> 00:41:08,515 Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York, and a 649 00:41:08,555 --> 00:41:11,235 Speaker 1: baseball news story broke and he was filling in for me. 650 00:41:11,515 --> 00:41:14,235 Speaker 1: My producers called me there and asked me to come 651 00:41:14,275 --> 00:41:17,435 Speaker 1: on from the streets of Cooperstown and be a guest 652 00:41:17,515 --> 00:41:23,195 Speaker 1: on my own show, just to help Howard Dean out. Anyway, 653 00:41:23,915 --> 00:41:26,115 Speaker 1: Their next idea was a guy who had been kicking 654 00:41:26,155 --> 00:41:30,515 Speaker 1: around MSNBC since its founding in nineteen ninety six. Lawrence 655 00:41:30,555 --> 00:41:36,435 Speaker 1: O'Donnell was one of the original MSNBC Friends, the MSNBC 656 00:41:36,755 --> 00:41:41,755 Speaker 1: Friends political pundits who sat on clearstools at a clear 657 00:41:41,835 --> 00:41:44,395 Speaker 1: table or in a set designed to look like a 658 00:41:44,435 --> 00:41:48,315 Speaker 1: booth at a coffee shop. No, I'm not making this up. 659 00:41:48,835 --> 00:41:53,995 Speaker 1: Among the friends were and Colter and Laura Ingram, if 660 00:41:54,035 --> 00:41:57,515 Speaker 1: you can believe it, once or twice an hour, the 661 00:41:57,635 --> 00:42:01,355 Speaker 1: rather CNN like all news coverage on MSNBC in its 662 00:42:01,355 --> 00:42:04,275 Speaker 1: first couple of years would pause and three or more 663 00:42:04,315 --> 00:42:09,715 Speaker 1: of the friends would appear, chew over the MSNBC headlines 664 00:42:10,195 --> 00:42:15,835 Speaker 1: and then disappear. Lawrence O'Donnell was one of the friends. 665 00:42:16,795 --> 00:42:21,075 Speaker 1: It was as bad as it sounds. Then Lawrence o'donald 666 00:42:21,075 --> 00:42:24,235 Speaker 1: pretty much disappeared. You would see him on MSNBC as 667 00:42:24,275 --> 00:42:26,755 Speaker 1: a guest every once in a while, but mostly he 668 00:42:26,875 --> 00:42:30,315 Speaker 1: pursued his acting and producing career. He played President Bartlett's 669 00:42:30,315 --> 00:42:33,555 Speaker 1: father on the West Wing, the one who beat him. 670 00:42:33,595 --> 00:42:37,675 Speaker 1: Throughout college. Lawrence was very convincing, and then around two 671 00:42:37,715 --> 00:42:40,275 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, we started getting pressure to bring him 672 00:42:40,275 --> 00:42:43,075 Speaker 1: in as a guest on Countdown, like once a week 673 00:42:43,155 --> 00:42:45,595 Speaker 1: or twice a week. I was not sure what that 674 00:42:45,755 --> 00:42:47,915 Speaker 1: was all about, but he had been a Senate staffer 675 00:42:48,235 --> 00:42:50,995 Speaker 1: and he knew the healthcare debate and other wonky stuff 676 00:42:51,035 --> 00:42:54,395 Speaker 1: pretty well. So I gave my assent for whatever that 677 00:42:54,515 --> 00:42:58,275 Speaker 1: was worth. Not long after that, Lawrence came into my office. 678 00:42:58,315 --> 00:43:00,915 Speaker 1: He really needed my support, he said, to get him 679 00:43:00,955 --> 00:43:03,875 Speaker 1: more involved in MSNBC. He knew I had gone to 680 00:43:03,915 --> 00:43:07,315 Speaker 1: bat for Rachel and before her, I'd gone to bat 681 00:43:07,355 --> 00:43:10,035 Speaker 1: for Tom Brokaw, and for people like Chuck Todd and 682 00:43:10,115 --> 00:43:12,835 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes and others who are now getting steady incomes 683 00:43:12,835 --> 00:43:16,875 Speaker 1: from NBC. I don't remember his argument on his own, behalf. 684 00:43:16,915 --> 00:43:19,115 Speaker 1: I do remember I didn't have much of a reason 685 00:43:19,155 --> 00:43:21,555 Speaker 1: to say no, and he wasn't asking me to do 686 00:43:21,635 --> 00:43:25,155 Speaker 1: a lot, so I said yes. The next thing I knew, 687 00:43:25,475 --> 00:43:28,195 Speaker 1: I was reading a memo announcing that Lawrence O'Donnell had 688 00:43:28,235 --> 00:43:31,235 Speaker 1: been appointed as the new full time guest host of Countdown. 689 00:43:32,835 --> 00:43:35,035 Speaker 1: This was in the winter of two thousand and nine 690 00:43:35,075 --> 00:43:38,075 Speaker 1: twenty ten, when my late dad was fighting so valiantly 691 00:43:38,315 --> 00:43:41,115 Speaker 1: to stay alive after colon cancer and more importantly, a 692 00:43:41,155 --> 00:43:45,475 Speaker 1: series of infections. Dad had the immune system of an alien. 693 00:43:45,915 --> 00:43:48,395 Speaker 1: The average white cell count in a healthy adult is 694 00:43:48,435 --> 00:43:51,795 Speaker 1: between four thousand and eleven thousand. One night, Dad's was 695 00:43:51,835 --> 00:43:55,235 Speaker 1: at thirty three thousand, and the doctors told me to 696 00:43:55,355 --> 00:43:58,515 Speaker 1: prepare to make the call to let him go. They 697 00:43:58,555 --> 00:44:01,915 Speaker 1: had one antibiotic left to try on him. The next morning, 698 00:44:02,315 --> 00:44:05,035 Speaker 1: Dad's white cell count, which had been thirty three thousand, 699 00:44:05,315 --> 00:44:12,275 Speaker 1: was eight thousand. Onward, he fought. Unfortunately, he was eighty 700 00:44:12,355 --> 00:44:15,915 Speaker 1: years old and he had not exercised since Harry Truman 701 00:44:15,995 --> 00:44:19,475 Speaker 1: was president, and eventually he ran out of Houdini tricks. 702 00:44:20,235 --> 00:44:22,275 Speaker 1: I had been visiting him twice a day for six 703 00:44:22,315 --> 00:44:25,715 Speaker 1: months while still doing Countdown and the NBC Sunday Night 704 00:44:25,715 --> 00:44:28,875 Speaker 1: Football Show. But now, as it hit late February of 705 00:44:28,915 --> 00:44:33,275 Speaker 1: twenty ten, his bright days became fewer and farther in between, 706 00:44:33,355 --> 00:44:35,435 Speaker 1: and the hope that was propelling me to keep being 707 00:44:35,795 --> 00:44:39,395 Speaker 1: his full time caregiver and Countdown's full time host both 708 00:44:39,475 --> 00:44:42,195 Speaker 1: began to fade. In the last two weeks of my 709 00:44:42,315 --> 00:44:45,115 Speaker 1: dad's life, as the doctors tried all the long shot things, 710 00:44:45,395 --> 00:44:49,435 Speaker 1: I asked MSNBC for a leave of absence. Finally the 711 00:44:49,515 --> 00:44:53,355 Speaker 1: inevitability became inarguable, and we let Dad go. On Saturday, 712 00:44:53,355 --> 00:44:57,275 Speaker 1: March thirteenth, twenty ten, my sister held his hand and 713 00:44:57,355 --> 00:44:59,875 Speaker 1: I read him his favorite Thurber story, and as soon 714 00:44:59,915 --> 00:45:03,555 Speaker 1: as I finished it, he exhaled deeply and peacefully, and 715 00:45:03,635 --> 00:45:09,075 Speaker 1: he died. I think I took another week off, maybe two, 716 00:45:09,915 --> 00:45:13,275 Speaker 1: and I vaguely recall emails from friends at Countdown that 717 00:45:13,355 --> 00:45:17,275 Speaker 1: I may have paid passing attention to, but I really didn't. 718 00:45:17,595 --> 00:45:20,395 Speaker 1: Most of the staff, including people who came up from Washington, 719 00:45:21,035 --> 00:45:24,475 Speaker 1: like Howard Feyneman or Gene Robinson of the Washington Post, 720 00:45:25,115 --> 00:45:28,875 Speaker 1: always friends to me. They attended my dad's memorial service. 721 00:45:29,475 --> 00:45:32,675 Speaker 1: I believe Lawrence o'donald, who was of course filling in 722 00:45:32,755 --> 00:45:34,835 Speaker 1: for me on Countdown, was there too, but maybe not, 723 00:45:34,955 --> 00:45:38,595 Speaker 1: I do not remember. And then came the day when 724 00:45:38,595 --> 00:45:40,395 Speaker 1: I went back to the office full time and my 725 00:45:40,475 --> 00:45:45,275 Speaker 1: assistant grabbed me both hands on my wrist. You did 726 00:45:45,275 --> 00:45:47,955 Speaker 1: not answer my emails, she said, with a fervency she 727 00:45:48,115 --> 00:45:52,075 Speaker 1: rarely exhibited. For God's sake, do not ever leave me 728 00:45:52,155 --> 00:45:56,435 Speaker 1: alone with Laurence O'Donnell Again, I snapped back to attention. 729 00:45:56,915 --> 00:46:01,795 Speaker 1: Had he, you know, bothered her? Not that way, she said, 730 00:46:01,915 --> 00:46:03,915 Speaker 1: But he's a son of a bitch. He treats me 731 00:46:03,955 --> 00:46:06,275 Speaker 1: and everybody who was a producer here like dirt. And 732 00:46:06,315 --> 00:46:08,555 Speaker 1: since you didn't read my emails, I just have to 733 00:46:08,555 --> 00:46:10,995 Speaker 1: tell you this. He's trying to get you fired so 734 00:46:11,035 --> 00:46:13,755 Speaker 1: he can take over Countdown. And if you think he's nuts, 735 00:46:13,915 --> 00:46:15,995 Speaker 1: one of your senior producers is in on it too 736 00:46:16,275 --> 00:46:21,515 Speaker 1: with him. I have to admit, even now, of all 737 00:46:21,555 --> 00:46:24,675 Speaker 1: the things I went through at that very, very strange 738 00:46:24,755 --> 00:46:31,835 Speaker 1: place MSNBC, even now, this story still shocks me. The 739 00:46:31,875 --> 00:46:34,675 Speaker 1: senior producers of Countdown consisted of a guy who'd been 740 00:46:34,715 --> 00:46:39,275 Speaker 1: a producer who booked satellite transmissions for MSNBC until I 741 00:46:39,475 --> 00:46:43,155 Speaker 1: asked that he'd be promoted, and one was a guest 742 00:46:43,155 --> 00:46:45,475 Speaker 1: booker for the daytime shows until I asked that she 743 00:46:45,635 --> 00:46:48,955 Speaker 1: be promoted. Another was a line producer who was well 744 00:46:48,995 --> 00:46:51,675 Speaker 1: regarded only for his ability to time a show until 745 00:46:51,715 --> 00:46:54,515 Speaker 1: I asked for him to be promoted. And then there 746 00:46:54,555 --> 00:46:56,235 Speaker 1: was the old friend of mine who had been blown 747 00:46:56,235 --> 00:46:59,315 Speaker 1: out of ESPN in a sexual harassment porn link email 748 00:46:59,355 --> 00:47:01,955 Speaker 1: scandal and was headed back to college to start his 749 00:47:02,035 --> 00:47:05,035 Speaker 1: career all over again, until I asked that he'd be 750 00:47:05,115 --> 00:47:09,155 Speaker 1: hired and then promoted. I did some digging, and I 751 00:47:09,195 --> 00:47:11,475 Speaker 1: was going to confront O'Donnell about it when somebody told 752 00:47:11,475 --> 00:47:14,795 Speaker 1: me he had tweeted something negative about me and about Countdown. 753 00:47:14,995 --> 00:47:16,435 Speaker 1: So I got a hold of him and I said, 754 00:47:16,435 --> 00:47:19,275 Speaker 1: this did not seem to be in keeping with MSNBC 755 00:47:19,435 --> 00:47:22,795 Speaker 1: traditions and rules, you know, the ones about not peeing 756 00:47:22,875 --> 00:47:24,755 Speaker 1: inside the tent. And he said, what do you know 757 00:47:24,755 --> 00:47:29,075 Speaker 1: about MSNBC traditions. I've been here since nineteen ninety six. 758 00:47:29,155 --> 00:47:33,675 Speaker 1: I never left and came back. So I went to 759 00:47:33,715 --> 00:47:36,035 Speaker 1: my boss, the president of the network, Phil Griffin, the 760 00:47:36,035 --> 00:47:38,595 Speaker 1: one who would not hire Rachel Maddow. And before I 761 00:47:38,635 --> 00:47:40,435 Speaker 1: could say they'd have to get rid of him, Griffin 762 00:47:40,475 --> 00:47:43,035 Speaker 1: said it was all academic. They were preparing the press 763 00:47:43,075 --> 00:47:45,675 Speaker 1: release as we spoke for Lawrence's new show at ten 764 00:47:45,715 --> 00:47:49,355 Speaker 1: o'clock called The Last Word, and oh, by the way, Keith, 765 00:47:49,395 --> 00:47:51,395 Speaker 1: two of your senior producers are going with him to 766 00:47:51,475 --> 00:47:56,275 Speaker 1: run his show. If this sounds vaguely familiar to you, 767 00:47:56,475 --> 00:47:59,995 Speaker 1: it is the plot of the pilot for the old 768 00:48:00,115 --> 00:48:04,595 Speaker 1: Aaron Sorkin HBO series Newsroom. I was still friendly with 769 00:48:04,835 --> 00:48:08,635 Speaker 1: Aaron then, so he actually asked. As I related this 770 00:48:08,675 --> 00:48:11,715 Speaker 1: to him in real time in emails and phone calls, 771 00:48:11,795 --> 00:48:13,915 Speaker 1: he asked if he could use it in the plot 772 00:48:14,035 --> 00:48:16,995 Speaker 1: rather than just what he often did, which was to 773 00:48:17,115 --> 00:48:21,075 Speaker 1: use it without asking. The problem was none of this 774 00:48:21,155 --> 00:48:23,955 Speaker 1: made any sense in the real world. Although it made 775 00:48:23,995 --> 00:48:26,875 Speaker 1: a pretty good pilot for Aaron Sorkin in going into 776 00:48:26,875 --> 00:48:30,355 Speaker 1: the ten pm slot, Lawrence O'Donnell would be replacing a 777 00:48:30,435 --> 00:48:34,155 Speaker 1: rerun of Countdown, and even if O'Donnell did much better 778 00:48:34,195 --> 00:48:37,035 Speaker 1: in the ratings, much much better, there was no way 779 00:48:37,675 --> 00:48:40,115 Speaker 1: it could ever make enough money to make the move 780 00:48:40,235 --> 00:48:46,475 Speaker 1: make sense. O'Donnell's new show would necessarily cost MSNBC between 781 00:48:46,515 --> 00:48:50,075 Speaker 1: ten and fifteen million dollars to produce every year. Didn't 782 00:48:50,075 --> 00:48:50,995 Speaker 1: have anything to do with him. 783 00:48:51,035 --> 00:48:51,875 Speaker 2: That was the cost. 784 00:48:52,595 --> 00:48:57,435 Speaker 1: The Countdown rerun cost, not ten fifteen million dollars a year. 785 00:48:57,835 --> 00:49:00,355 Speaker 1: It count however much they paid the guy who pushed 786 00:49:00,395 --> 00:49:03,515 Speaker 1: the play button that fired up the videotape of the 787 00:49:03,555 --> 00:49:12,715 Speaker 1: Countdown replace amortized. Later that day, a sympathetic NBC executive 788 00:49:12,755 --> 00:49:15,315 Speaker 1: called me up and explained the move to me. First, 789 00:49:15,675 --> 00:49:18,715 Speaker 1: Griffin was convinced O'Donnell was about to leave us and 790 00:49:18,835 --> 00:49:22,675 Speaker 1: sign with CNN. I said, well, that's a good idea 791 00:49:22,795 --> 00:49:27,235 Speaker 1: for everybody involved except CNN. Turned out CNN had not 792 00:49:27,315 --> 00:49:29,755 Speaker 1: even talked to him, but Griffin did not know that. 793 00:49:30,395 --> 00:49:33,795 Speaker 1: More importantly, Comcast had already finalized its agreement to buy 794 00:49:33,955 --> 00:49:37,075 Speaker 1: NBC effective the following January, and as part of the deal, 795 00:49:37,435 --> 00:49:40,395 Speaker 1: they were entitled to review what all the executives in 796 00:49:40,435 --> 00:49:42,835 Speaker 1: the company had done, and they had already looked at 797 00:49:42,915 --> 00:49:46,955 Speaker 1: MSNBC president Phil Griffin and discovered he had never done anything. 798 00:49:48,075 --> 00:49:51,275 Speaker 1: In panic, Griffin told colleagues he had to launch a 799 00:49:51,315 --> 00:49:57,915 Speaker 1: new show of his own immediately. This is the series 800 00:49:57,995 --> 00:50:01,155 Speaker 1: Aaron Sorkin should have made. As to the producers who 801 00:50:01,235 --> 00:50:04,195 Speaker 1: left my show to go with O'Donnell, while my father 802 00:50:04,355 --> 00:50:07,275 Speaker 1: was one of them, told me a couple of years 803 00:50:07,315 --> 00:50:11,115 Speaker 1: after she left MSNBC for the last time, every day 804 00:50:11,155 --> 00:50:13,675 Speaker 1: when I went into that last word office, I realized 805 00:50:13,715 --> 00:50:17,155 Speaker 1: you were getting your revenge on me without even having 806 00:50:17,235 --> 00:50:20,755 Speaker 1: to lift a finger. Lots of people I've worked with, 807 00:50:21,155 --> 00:50:24,875 Speaker 1: probably a majority of people i've helped, have behaved like 808 00:50:24,995 --> 00:50:29,475 Speaker 1: Lawrence O'Donnell, because remember, it's television. It is a mental illness. 809 00:50:30,675 --> 00:50:33,195 Speaker 1: The comparatively healthy people are the ones who acknowledge it's 810 00:50:33,195 --> 00:50:37,795 Speaker 1: a mental illness. But Lawrence O'Donnell was something special. A 811 00:50:37,915 --> 00:50:41,595 Speaker 1: year before my dad died, almost to the day, in fact, 812 00:50:41,635 --> 00:50:44,355 Speaker 1: I was in Los Angeles appearing on Bill Maher's show, 813 00:50:44,715 --> 00:50:46,315 Speaker 1: and one of the other guests that night was the 814 00:50:46,355 --> 00:50:49,835 Speaker 1: actress Kerrie Washington. She was very nice to me, very sweet, 815 00:50:49,995 --> 00:50:52,955 Speaker 1: a very big fan, and she asked to stay in touch. 816 00:50:53,875 --> 00:50:56,555 Speaker 1: Sure enough, after my father died after the memorial, after 817 00:50:56,555 --> 00:50:58,635 Speaker 1: I was back at work, I had to go to 818 00:50:58,715 --> 00:51:01,075 Speaker 1: his house for the first time since he had passed away. 819 00:51:01,595 --> 00:51:05,195 Speaker 1: It was about as much fun as it sounds. In 820 00:51:05,235 --> 00:51:07,715 Speaker 1: the car on the way back into New York City. 821 00:51:07,835 --> 00:51:11,355 Speaker 1: The solemnity of it. Both my parents died within eleven 822 00:51:11,395 --> 00:51:14,035 Speaker 1: months of each other. It really hit me for some 823 00:51:14,235 --> 00:51:17,675 Speaker 1: reason for the first time, full force, and I was 824 00:51:17,715 --> 00:51:21,915 Speaker 1: about to lose it when the car approached a billboard 825 00:51:21,995 --> 00:51:24,635 Speaker 1: overlooking the West Side Highway in New York City. And 826 00:51:24,675 --> 00:51:27,715 Speaker 1: whose big smiling face was on the ad on that billboard, 827 00:51:28,915 --> 00:51:32,235 Speaker 1: Carrie Washington, And it flashed me right back to her 828 00:51:32,315 --> 00:51:35,315 Speaker 1: kindness in la and it helped me overcome this bump 829 00:51:35,355 --> 00:51:38,635 Speaker 1: in my mourning. So I wanted to drop her a note, 830 00:51:38,715 --> 00:51:43,595 Speaker 1: nothing big, nothing suggestive. I wasn't hinting at asking her out. 831 00:51:44,395 --> 00:51:47,715 Speaker 1: Just you never know how you might help somebody in 832 00:51:47,755 --> 00:51:52,595 Speaker 1: a time of crisis. Thanks for letting me smile. That 833 00:51:52,715 --> 00:51:55,275 Speaker 1: was the whole message. I asked my assistant to figure 834 00:51:55,315 --> 00:51:56,635 Speaker 1: out how to get it to her, and that was 835 00:51:56,635 --> 00:52:01,395 Speaker 1: the end of it, except A week later, the fact 836 00:52:01,435 --> 00:52:04,075 Speaker 1: that I wrote her a note wound up in a 837 00:52:04,155 --> 00:52:07,955 Speaker 1: column written by an colter. 838 00:52:09,875 --> 00:52:12,435 Speaker 2: I was astonished, how why? 839 00:52:12,635 --> 00:52:16,875 Speaker 1: And Colter it was her usual the brain doesn't quite 840 00:52:17,155 --> 00:52:19,715 Speaker 1: work right kind of stuff. She implied I was hitting 841 00:52:19,755 --> 00:52:22,275 Speaker 1: on Carrie Washington and said how stupid I had to 842 00:52:22,275 --> 00:52:24,755 Speaker 1: be to not realize she was involved with somebody, and 843 00:52:24,835 --> 00:52:27,475 Speaker 1: on and on and on, no mention of my father's passing, 844 00:52:27,795 --> 00:52:30,795 Speaker 1: or the mar show or the billboard or her smiling face. 845 00:52:32,075 --> 00:52:34,755 Speaker 1: I went back to my assistant and I said, Hey, 846 00:52:35,195 --> 00:52:38,635 Speaker 1: what on earth did you do with that note to 847 00:52:38,755 --> 00:52:42,235 Speaker 1: Carrie Washington? And she said, oh, I gave it to 848 00:52:42,355 --> 00:52:46,755 Speaker 1: this Lawrence O'Donnell guy. And I said, good God, why 849 00:52:46,795 --> 00:52:49,675 Speaker 1: did you do that? And she said, well, he's dating 850 00:52:49,755 --> 00:52:52,315 Speaker 1: Carrie Washington. I thought you knew that. I thought that's 851 00:52:52,355 --> 00:52:56,075 Speaker 1: why you asked me to get it to her. So 852 00:52:56,275 --> 00:52:59,115 Speaker 1: it wasn't hard to figure out from there. Lawrence had 853 00:52:59,155 --> 00:53:02,675 Speaker 1: called his old friend from the old MSNBC Friends of 854 00:53:02,755 --> 00:53:06,595 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six and Colter and told her about the note. 855 00:53:06,915 --> 00:53:10,075 Speaker 1: Inventing whatever motive his jealous little mind could dream up, 856 00:53:10,635 --> 00:53:13,555 Speaker 1: it should have gotten him fired from NBC, but unfortunately 857 00:53:13,595 --> 00:53:15,875 Speaker 1: his boss was just as much of a fourteen year 858 00:53:15,915 --> 00:53:18,955 Speaker 1: old emotionally as he was. And meanwhile, I had decided 859 00:53:18,995 --> 00:53:21,555 Speaker 1: to get out of MSNBC anyway when the time was ripe, 860 00:53:22,435 --> 00:53:25,995 Speaker 1: and as it turned out, it ripened in January twenty eleven. 861 00:53:25,995 --> 00:53:29,555 Speaker 1: I've told that story in other episodes, like sixty of them. 862 00:53:29,635 --> 00:53:33,395 Speaker 1: It's kind of complicated, And since nobody ever actually asked 863 00:53:33,395 --> 00:53:35,835 Speaker 1: me why count Down the TV show ended, I've probably 864 00:53:35,875 --> 00:53:39,795 Speaker 1: got another sixty episodes worth of information about that anyway 865 00:53:40,635 --> 00:53:44,995 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, since repeatedly over the following ten years, 866 00:53:44,995 --> 00:53:47,755 Speaker 1: there were overtures by both sides to bring Countdown and 867 00:53:47,875 --> 00:53:51,835 Speaker 1: Me back to MSNBC. In twenty fifteen, during the World Series, 868 00:53:51,835 --> 00:53:54,995 Speaker 1: in fact, the then president of NBC News, Andy Lack, 869 00:53:55,675 --> 00:53:57,875 Speaker 1: asked me to come back and do a new show 870 00:53:57,915 --> 00:54:01,435 Speaker 1: at MSNBC and move to Los Angeles and have a 871 00:54:01,475 --> 00:54:06,035 Speaker 1: co host, a conservative, and not do any commentary. And 872 00:54:06,075 --> 00:54:09,715 Speaker 1: actually this new show was somehow less appealing than it sounds. 873 00:54:10,915 --> 00:54:13,635 Speaker 1: But the punchline of all punchlines is contained in what 874 00:54:13,755 --> 00:54:18,235 Speaker 1: Lack wanted to call my new twenty fifteen MSNBC show 875 00:54:18,235 --> 00:54:20,635 Speaker 1: that never was. It tells you all you really need 876 00:54:20,675 --> 00:54:23,475 Speaker 1: to know about The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell and 877 00:54:23,635 --> 00:54:27,755 Speaker 1: MSNBC and O'Donnell's place in TV history at its demise 878 00:54:28,715 --> 00:54:33,315 Speaker 1: and the end of MSNBC. NBC new president Lack was 879 00:54:33,435 --> 00:54:36,395 Speaker 1: brimming with enthusiasm about this name that he had come 880 00:54:36,475 --> 00:54:39,515 Speaker 1: up with for my new show, A good the perfect title. 881 00:54:39,795 --> 00:54:43,475 Speaker 1: Lack told me, we're gonna call it The Last Word 882 00:54:43,555 --> 00:54:48,315 Speaker 1: with Keith Olberman. And I didn't laugh for guffaw. I 883 00:54:48,435 --> 00:54:52,435 Speaker 1: just said, Andy, you have a show called The Last Word, 884 00:54:53,075 --> 00:54:58,555 Speaker 1: The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell. Andy Lack now laughed, huh, 885 00:54:59,075 --> 00:55:00,635 Speaker 1: hopefully not for much longer. 886 00:55:00,715 --> 00:55:01,195 Speaker 2: I don't. 887 00:55:15,035 --> 00:55:16,955 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 888 00:55:16,955 --> 00:55:20,915 Speaker 1: you for listening. Remember when Lawrence O'Donnell started in about 889 00:55:20,915 --> 00:55:23,315 Speaker 1: a year after the show began, and so this puts 890 00:55:23,315 --> 00:55:26,115 Speaker 1: it at like twenty eleven, twenty twelve. He said he 891 00:55:26,115 --> 00:55:30,355 Speaker 1: couldn't see him doing it long term. Then he began 892 00:55:30,395 --> 00:55:32,035 Speaker 1: to realize it was nowhere else in the world it 893 00:55:32,035 --> 00:55:35,915 Speaker 1: could make that kind of money any who. Brian Ray 894 00:55:35,915 --> 00:55:38,675 Speaker 1: and John Phillip Shanell, the musical directors, have Countdown, arranged, 895 00:55:38,715 --> 00:55:41,915 Speaker 1: produced and performed most of our music. Mister Chanelle handled 896 00:55:41,995 --> 00:55:45,075 Speaker 1: orchestration and keyboards. Mister Ray was on the guitars, bass 897 00:55:45,075 --> 00:55:48,595 Speaker 1: and drums, and it was produced by Tko Brothers. Our 898 00:55:48,675 --> 00:55:51,195 Speaker 1: satirical and fifthy musical comments are by the best baseball 899 00:55:51,195 --> 00:55:54,515 Speaker 1: stadium organist, every Nancy Faust. The sports music is the 900 00:55:54,515 --> 00:55:58,395 Speaker 1: Olderman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis, 901 00:55:58,475 --> 00:56:02,275 Speaker 1: and it appears courtesy of ESPN Inc. Other music arranged 902 00:56:02,315 --> 00:56:05,355 Speaker 1: and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. Anouncer today 903 00:56:05,475 --> 00:56:10,435 Speaker 1: was my crazy friend Tony Corneiser. Everything else was, as always, 904 00:56:10,435 --> 00:56:16,315 Speaker 1: my fault. The next scheduled countdown is Doomsday Monday, January twentieth. 905 00:56:17,075 --> 00:56:19,755 Speaker 1: As always, bulletins is the news warrant Still next time, 906 00:56:19,755 --> 00:56:23,075 Speaker 1: I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and 907 00:56:23,595 --> 00:56:51,395 Speaker 1: good luck. Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. 908 00:56:51,675 --> 00:56:56,835 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 909 00:56:57,075 --> 00:56:59,075 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.