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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stump Mom Never told

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Speaker 1: you from house Stuff Works dot Com. Come on, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the podcast. This is Molly and I'm Kristen. Kristen

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Speaker 1: one of our old episodes and dealt with the question

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Speaker 1: that one yes, and it was all about you know,

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Speaker 1: if your ultimate goal is marriage, well, living together ruin it?

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Speaker 1: Will it make a marriage stronger? So on and so forth.

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Speaker 1: But one thing that often comes up. You'll see studies

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Speaker 1: kind of like the love weight, and if you will

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Speaker 1: they imply that, especially once you're living with someone and

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Speaker 1: but okay, So let's say that you have been living

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Speaker 1: and we're saying we're saying his hers because the question

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Speaker 1: Because there may be two women to living do other

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Speaker 1: if you try to go pound for pound with your BF,

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Speaker 1: because statistically speaking, he has a much better chance of

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Speaker 1: today's podcast is going to be really frustrating for you

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