1 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Chris Harey with you on a new 2 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: episode of Chargers Weekly. 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: We're about a week removed from the twenty twenty. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and I thought this week we'd get to 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: know the newest members of the Chargers through their college coaches. 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Coming up, you're gonna hear from Brian Odum, inside linebackers 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: coach from Oklahoma, running backs coach at UCLA, Deshaun Foster. 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: They're gonna talk about Kenneth Murray and Joshua Kelly, respectively. 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: But first, Uba head coach Bronco Menden Hall breaks down 10 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver Joe Reid. All right, very please be joined 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: by Virginia head coach Bronco Menden Hall, a coach. Just 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: take me back to last Saturday when Joe Reid became 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: a Charger. What was your reaction? 14 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: It was just smiles instantly. San Diego and the Chargers 15 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: now in the LA Chargers are one of my favorite 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 3: and always have been one of my favorite teams from 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 3: the time I was a kid, and Joe Reid is 18 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: an amazing, amazing, amazing young person and it just seems 19 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: like I, don't know, a magical match for all And 20 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: then to hear Joe's reaction and to see his reaction 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: and how authentic and real it was. 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: It just is. 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: It's the coolest thing when you're a coach to see 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: other people that you've tried to help and serve and 25 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: watch them have success and then to see it see 26 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: them be rewarded. For it to come to Fruition, it's awesome. 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: I imagine it has to be extra special for you. 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: What was the conversation like with Joe after he was 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: drafted Between you two, you know, we tease. 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: Each other quite a bit, and I just said, Okay, now, 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: let me get this straight. Now, people are going to 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: pay you to catch kickoffs and run them back for touchdowns, 33 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: and they're going to give you money like when you 34 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 3: get to catch passes and do the stuff you love. 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to wrap my brain around this. 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: Joe. 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: I mean, so you're going to get paid to play 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: a game that you have and you would play for free. 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: And so it kind of went that way. We were 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: just chuckling and laughing and kind of crying at the 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: same time, just because we're happy. 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. You know, his versatility to be first team 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: All acc As both a kick returner and an all 44 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: purpose player. What did that bring to your offense, coach? 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: A guy that can do it all in terms of 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: field position and then could make big plays on offense. 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, just that anytime. Well, so we have a saying, 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: and I think Bill Belichick might have coined this, I'm 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: not positive, but the more you can do, the more 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: you can do, and then the more you can do, 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: the more valuable you are. And so every roster is limited, right, 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: you don't have the same quality of players, But what if, right, 53 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 3: one player can do multiple things, and so Joe is 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: kind of a one size fits all. Do you need 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: him return a kick, okay? 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: Great? 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 3: You need him to go deep? Okay great? Do you 58 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: want him to put him at running back and hand 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 3: him the ball? 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: Awesome? 61 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: Do you want to have yards after the catch, maybe 62 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: on a tunnel screen? 63 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: Great? 64 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: So really there's not much he can't do. And so really, 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: based on based on matchup, based on the field position, 66 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: and based on our intent, we could just kind of 67 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: put him at the tip of the spear. And that's 68 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 3: almost Swiss army knifefish. I would say, I. 69 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: Would, I would say so, And I think what's unique 70 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: about your relationship with him is you guys started at 71 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: the same time, right, this is your fifth year going 72 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: into being the head coach of the Cavs. You had 73 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: Joe for all four years. When did you have an 74 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: inkling that Joe was going to be a special player 75 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: for not only your program, but maybe at the next level. 76 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: The night I arrived in Charlottesville, it was the night 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: before my opening press conference to be introduced as the 78 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: head coach, and I had access to all the existing 79 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: signees film and so I didn't recruit Joe. I inherited Joe, 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: and I watched every recruit. I stayed up most of 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: the night that was currently signed, and there was one player, 82 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: and I'm the many that I liked, but there was 83 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: one specifically that was my favorite on high school film 84 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: that I had just instantly had a feeling about, Oh, 85 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: this guy, he's going to be special. And it was 86 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: Joe Reid's film. So I knew the first night I 87 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: arrived in Charlottesville watching all the existing classes simeees that 88 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: the previous staff had had recruited, and as I was 89 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 3: familiar familiarizing myself with him, and I saw Joe's high 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: school film right then it was, Oh, Okay, this is 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: this guy's going to be amazing. It's awesome. 92 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: That's an awesome story. And you know, both of you 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: were so instrumental in the turnaround. And do you have 94 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: a favorite memory with Joe over the last four years? 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: You know, really, my favorite memory was my recruiting trip 96 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: to his house, my recruiting visit and his mom and 97 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 3: dad are awesome. Mom was she made amazing fried chicken 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: for us, and his dad is a train conductor, and 99 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: we just we went out and it's a small town 100 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: and they have hogs and they have dogs and they 101 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: have it's it is country country. And here's this amazing 102 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 3: family just immersed in the value of hard work and 103 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: traditional family values and just thriving. And here's this amazing 104 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: athlete in this family who acts as if he's just 105 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 3: grateful for everything that you put in front of him. 106 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: And so whatever challenge, he thanks you for the chance 107 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: to work hard. And it's just the humility and gratitude. 108 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the things that the 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: organization will appreciate most, is not only his work ethic, 110 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: which is fierce, but the gratitude and humility that comes 111 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 3: with that, which is a pretty unique combination. 112 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: It really is, and it's actually a segue to my 113 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: next question. You may have already answered it, but if 114 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: you had one thing that you wanted to relay to 115 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: Chargers fans about Joe, what would that be. 116 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: The thing that I would say is we have a 117 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: say in our program that real recognizes real. Joe doesn't 118 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: know how to pretend to normally ever try. He's authentic, sincere, 119 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: and genuine through and through, and that's so refreshing. There 120 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: is no other motive and no other agenda other than 121 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: trying to help the organization better himself, serve other people, 122 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: and be a great teammate. And that there's no more 123 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: than that, So it doesn't do any good to keep 124 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: looking for more than that. That's who he is and 125 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 3: that's real, and so just acknowledging that right from the beginning, 126 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: and sometimes it's even hard to imagine that someone is 127 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: that pure, but he's he just his motives and his 128 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: agenda are completely aligned with what's best for an organization 129 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: and how to help. 130 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things the Charges did. They 131 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: got some great football players in the draft, but it 132 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: seems like they got even better people. And Joe is 133 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: certainly one of them. Coach Menderhall, I can't thank you 134 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: enough for your time this morning. Best of luck as Charlottesville, 135 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: keep a rolling there and we'll take care of Joe 136 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: here on the West coast. 137 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 3: That's awesome, Thanks so much, and I think you all 138 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: are going to love him all right. 139 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Now joined by Oklahoma's inside linebackers coach Brian odum Hey 140 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: coach Kenneth Murray. Now with Charger. I want to go 141 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: back to last Thursday and just get your reaction when 142 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: you saw the Chargers move up in the first round 143 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: to get your guy. 144 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: Man. 145 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 5: So we're sitting there on the couch and and my 146 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 5: family and I and you know, watching it and just 147 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: kind of anticipating when it's going to happen. And you 148 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 5: don't really know that much that's going on, but you're 149 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 5: just kind of part of the normal public. And you 150 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 5: try to leave Kenneth alone in his his own place, 151 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 5: and you know, you want to text him the whole time, 152 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 5: and what what what? 153 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: What what about? Now? What about? 154 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 5: Now? 155 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 4: You know? 156 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: Uh, just when that when that moment. 157 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 5: Happened, it was it was truly Uh, it was exciting 158 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: deal and we had a lot of fun with it 159 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 5: and couldn't been any more proud than that individual. 160 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sure you had a conversation with him shortly 161 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: after he was selected. What was that conversation like for 162 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: you personally? 163 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 5: You know what, there was a lot of emotion came 164 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 5: out that that I didn't realize that that it was 165 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: gonna happen. 166 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: It was gonna happen, he. 167 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 5: Called, and and uh, we you know, I think we 168 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 5: both anticipated him being taken in the first round. Uh, 169 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 5: but when you know, you actually got the chance to 170 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 5: visit with each other, it that became very real and 171 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 5: it was a you know, it was it was a 172 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 5: very happy time. And and like I said, I couldn't 173 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: be more proud of him and more happy for him 174 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 5: and his family. 175 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: Well, there's no other coach in the country that's probably 176 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: spent more time with Kenneth than you have over the 177 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: last year. Let's just start with on the field, right, 178 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: What are the charges getting as a linebacker on the 179 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: field with Kenneth Burth. 180 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 5: Well, I think the first thing that people, you know, 181 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 5: I think there's been it's been publicized a lot during 182 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 5: the draft process of how good of a person he 183 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 5: isn't the leader he is, but you know, the thing, 184 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 5: the thing that comes to mind with me is his 185 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 5: competitiveness and his his nasty nature on the field and 186 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 5: his physicality. He is an extreme competitor, you know, and it's, uh, 187 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 5: it's very evident in how he plays. He's he will 188 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: go compete with the best. And also with that he 189 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 5: is he is a physical, nasty competitor that that you 190 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 5: guys are going to really love to watch and kind 191 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 5: of rally behind the fan base world. 192 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: You know. 193 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 5: The other thing with that, you know, it's as far 194 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 5: as as as he can be the face of your 195 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,359 Speaker 5: your your defense publicly. 196 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: He's articulate, he's a good person. He's just he's he's you. 197 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: I've said this before. You can't draw guys up like 198 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: that any better. You know, my son plays Madden. You know, 199 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: you create a player, it's like, that's that's who you're creating. 200 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: And not only he's got those intangibles on the field, 201 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: but he's such a good person and he will be 202 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: he'll be visible in the in the community. 203 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: Well, we heard coach Lynn refer to him as a 204 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: national born leader, Tom Telesco's general manager, so that he 205 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: just has that magnetic personality. What is it about Kenneth 206 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: that he can have the nastiness and the physicality on 207 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: the field, which you love as as a fan and 208 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: as a coach, but also can be just an even 209 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: better person than he is a football player. 210 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 5: I think his awareness of people around him, his respect 211 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: for everybody around him, in his ability for him to 212 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: be as humble as he is. You know, you get 213 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 5: a guy like me that came in a year ago. 214 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 5: I obviously knew about Kenneth getting into the job. But 215 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 5: the thing that was very refreshing or surprising with the 216 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 5: guy with his caliber player that willingness that he had 217 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 5: to be coached, and you know, he just had a 218 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 5: thirst for improvement, like he was just dying to get better. 219 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 5: And you know, in order to have that characteristic, you 220 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 5: have to be aware of where you are. You have 221 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 5: to be very conscious of you know, deficiencies that maybe 222 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 5: he had and the willingness to overcome those. And those 223 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 5: characteristics are extremely rare for a guy like that. 224 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, we see certain guys come into the league 225 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: immediately and make an impact. And a guy on this defense, 226 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: Derwin James, is somebody who comes to mind who was 227 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: just he was an All Pro, his rookie season, it's 228 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: going to be different for Kenneth not having the on 229 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: field off season workouts the way that they typically are. 230 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: But just talking to Darwin yesterday, he thinks Kenneth is 231 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: going to make an immediate impact. What do you think 232 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: for Kenneth and his rookie season despite not having these 233 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: offseason workouts. He seems to be a guy who could 234 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: pick things up quickly and make an impact well. 235 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 5: And that's the thing with Kenneth, you know, but physically 236 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 5: he's a guy that you know, we're going through the 237 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 5: same thing in college football. Now we're not around our players, 238 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 5: and you know, it kind of levels the playing field 239 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 5: out too. 240 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: You're going to be as good as what the. 241 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: Work you've put in over this time and the physically, 242 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: you know, Kenneth is going to be a guy that 243 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 5: I mean, there's no question about his his work ethic 244 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 5: from a physical nature. And then what people don't know 245 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 5: is the work ethic that he applies in the film 246 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 5: room and the and the study habits that he has 247 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 5: of the game of football is on part with his 248 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 5: work ethic physically, and there is there is absolutely zero 249 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: out that that he will be as ready as he 250 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 5: possibly can be when he gets there, and I have 251 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 5: no doubt that he's going to make an immediate impact 252 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 5: for that organization. And the thing about Kenneth is like 253 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 5: he just he that I saw it in your interview. 254 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: He lives it, He breathes it. That's what he does. 255 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: Like that's his that's his that's his thing. Like he 256 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 5: he he does football. That's what he does, and that's 257 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 5: what he's about. He's a football guy. So the as 258 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 5: far as the playbook is concerned, whatever they've sent to 259 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 5: him at this moment, I can promise you he's He's 260 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 5: gone through it many times. 261 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: I tell you, coach, I think there's gonna be a 262 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: lot of fifty six jerseys at SOFI Stadium coming up 263 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: this fall. And beyond. Last thing for you, your favorite 264 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: memory of coaching Kenneth. I know it was just this 265 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: last season, but what what's your favorite memory? 266 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: God? I mean, that's and I've been asked that a 267 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: couple of times. 268 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 5: To this thing, and then there's there's in the year's time, 269 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 5: there's been so many good times with the kid. And 270 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 5: I think that you know, just when I think you 271 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: put a finger on one, it's hard to do, but 272 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 5: you know, I think that this really doesn't even Actually 273 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 5: I've never told this one before, but you know, after 274 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 5: the first game we played Houston at home, we all 275 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: knew that Kenneth Thatt was special. Uh, But it was 276 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 5: funny walking walking in the next morning and watching the 277 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 5: film of the game and just being like, oh, my goodness, like, 278 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 5: this guy is unreal. And I would like say that 279 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 5: out loud, like I'm sitting there in my office by myself, 280 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: and then somebody else would come into my office and 281 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 5: like open a door and look at me like with 282 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 5: with big eyes, be like did you see nine run around? 283 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, it's crazy. So I think just you know, 284 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 5: there there's so many of those, but that that one 285 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: came to mind just now, just just being able to 286 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 5: be fortunate enough to be able to coach a guy 287 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 5: that that that brings those intangibles, those characteristics as well 288 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 5: as the physical nature and and and the quality of 289 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: individual that he is. 290 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: It's man, it's that that was that was special. I 291 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: know that. 292 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 5: And then why there'll be some fifty six jerseys in 293 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 5: the state of Oklahoma. 294 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: Oh. 295 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: I bet for sure. 296 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Kenneth obviously puts into work, but he's a product of 297 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: his environment too, So to come from Oklahoma and to 298 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: see all the work that you and the other coaches 299 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: have put in there, it's just a testament to what 300 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Kenneth is today as well. So I can't thank you 301 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: enough for your time sharing some memories and a little 302 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: bit of insight on the newest Charger. 303 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: Man, I thank you so much. 304 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:31,239 Speaker 5: I can't wait for the for the people in California 305 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 5: to really embrace Kenneth and see what he's about. It's 306 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 5: it's it's an exciting time for everybody. 307 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: All right. Joshua Kelly not going anywhere. He's staying in 308 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: Los Angeles with the Chargers, joined by his running backs 309 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: coach at uc LA, Deshaun Foster Shaw. When you saw 310 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: Joshua Kelly to the LA Chargers in the fourth round, man, 311 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: what was your first reaction? 312 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: I was just excited to stay at home, you know. 313 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: Being that we coach, we don't get to see a 314 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: lot of NFL games. So being local that's allowed me 315 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: to see a lot more games than I expected. So 316 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: I'm pretty fine up about that. 317 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: It's great and he's local kid through and through from 318 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: UC Davis to UCLA. You were pretty instrumental in getting 319 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: him to UCLA. Tell me about that process and how 320 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: Joshua kind of approached you. 321 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: So Joshua was relentless in this process. It was here, 322 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: was messaging every day some sort of ways saying people, 323 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: was on Twitter, he was calling the office like it 324 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: got to he did so much. But people just recognizing 325 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: his voice when they when he called it was pretty funny. 326 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: So they just know who it was. 327 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, like, oh, this is josh Kelly. It was pretty 328 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: exciting now he uh. Then eventually he had a camp 329 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,359 Speaker 4: for transfers to junior college guys. He came out performingly 330 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: well and the rest is history, you know. So he 331 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: had to sit out one season and that was the 332 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: seventeen season he played eighteen nineteen, got drafted to you guys. 333 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 4: So it was a great story. 334 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: It is a great story. Two years at UCLA, the 335 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: team MVP in each of those two years. What did 336 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: he bring to the offense that that just made it 337 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: so productive and also made him so valuable. 338 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: He's just the same guy every day. You know, there's 339 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: there's nothing up and down about it. You know, he's 340 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 4: gonna show up and his work, work's had on and 341 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: gets ready to go. You know. So he's just a 342 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 4: kid that no matter what, he believes in himself and 343 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 4: he's just gonna get out there. And so he earned 344 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: his the team's respect the seventh to the season and 345 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: he didn't play when he's on scouts, so he was 346 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: just running hard every day and you know, it's kind 347 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: of hard doing that as an older guy. You know, 348 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: young guys is part of the process as an older 349 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: guy knowing that you still have to prove yourself and 350 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 4: he's excited to do that. But just every team respecting him, 351 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 4: it just took off from there. 352 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: You saw that improvement from UC Davis through his two 353 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: years with the Bruins. How much better do you think 354 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: Joshua can be? We talked about some of the things 355 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: that he just didn't have to do at UCLA that 356 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: he can do, whether it be catching the ball out 357 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: of the backfield or pass protection. He's a of a 358 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: complete back and I think we're going to. 359 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 2: See that at the next level. 360 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna really get to see everything they can do. 361 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: You know, we have other back said had other specialists too, 362 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 4: so that was a way we could arrest josh But 363 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 4: and the NFL, you're going to get to see that 364 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 4: he's a productive every down back. You know, you can 365 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: catch out in the back, pick up the passport, like 366 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 4: you said, you know, he can also run the ballston. 367 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 4: You know. It's just that he's gonna be able to 368 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: show that he's been playing off you know. 369 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: And I know you say you haven't watch much pro 370 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: ball because you're so consumed U c l A. But 371 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: but you know about this Chargers offense with with all 372 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: the weapons that they have in the backfield, Austin Eckler, 373 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: Justin Jackson, you got the wide receivers, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams. 374 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: How do you think Josh was going to fit in 375 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: and compliment this explosive set of weapons that the Charger set. 376 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 4: Well, it was almost similar to the situation when he 377 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 4: came to U c l A. You know, just being 378 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 4: a new kid on the block and kind of just 379 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 4: getting guys an except accept you. So we're just going 380 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: to get out there and just work hard. And once 381 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 4: they see just how he approaches the game, and then 382 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: he learns enough from the veteran too. You know, I 383 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 4: just hope that he's able to contribute collarge of offense. 384 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 4: But the offense is pretty explosive right now. 385 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's going to fill a role and coach 386 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: Lan he said he's not expecting him to be Melvin 387 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: Gordon's replacement right off the bat, but he certainly has 388 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: the potential to be. What memory stands out to you, DeShawn? Uh, 389 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: maybe your favorite memory of you and Joshua U c 390 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: l A. 391 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 4: I guess it's probably the USC game last year. 392 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's Actually that was a stupid question. It 393 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: had to be the game, right he put two eighty 394 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: nine on him? 395 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, he really did. You know, he had a 396 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 4: great game. He was running about really hard and people 397 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: people don't know is that Josh kind of had the 398 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 4: best of grip, you know, so he really was fighting 399 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: three things and running hard. So it was just good 400 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: that he took a shot a couple of weeks before, 401 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 4: and it was just good that he was able to 402 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 4: fight there. 403 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: One of the things that that kind of struck me 404 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: funny is because you look at that game, right, he 405 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: mentioned that USC didn't even pick up the phone for him, 406 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: uh when he was looking to transfer, So you know, 407 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: maybe he had a little bit of fuel that day 408 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: when he put to eighty nine on right. 409 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: Just a little bit, just a little bit. I'm gotta 410 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 4: ad him on my side. 411 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: Though, absolutely. 412 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: Hey, final thing for you, what do you want people 413 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: to know about Joshua Kelly UH Chargers fans? If you 414 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: only had to ask or say one thing about Joshua, 415 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: what would that be? 416 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 4: Just his personalities and infectious you know, you're always on 417 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 4: say him smile and laugh and it's not a fun 418 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 4: that's just who josh is. You know, even text like 419 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 4: that to him so and he text me's ha ha ha, 420 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 4: how you doing, coach? You know, it's just how he's, 421 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 4: just how he is. It's just good to see that 422 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: he can always be in sale. So you know, you're 423 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: just gonna really get a true player that's you know, 424 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 4: just like you said, it's homegrown. 425 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: And and then what follow up to that, you know 426 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: what it takes to be an NFL running back? What 427 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: advice have you given him to Uh to make it 428 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: at the next level, especially those first couple of years. 429 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: Just always show up every day, you know, when you 430 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: get the opportunity, you know, just make sure that you 431 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: can capitalize on that study and treat your body. Just 432 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: a lot of things that he's been doing since he's 433 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: been here. Just you know, your body's sensor, so don't 434 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: just get out there. You know he doesn't party, he 435 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 4: doesn't do anything. Just too good, Christie. I'm just excited 436 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 4: to see you guys for josh. 437 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: Hey, well, no excuses, coach, we're going to see you 438 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium. It's just a hop skipping to jump up 439 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: the road now. So we'll see if some charges gives 440 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: this year. 441 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 4: Right, I'm for sure cot it to some nuns. 442 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: That's great. Hey, thank you so much for your time. 443 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: We're excited to welcome Joshua to. 444 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: The Chargers all right, thanks for having me. 445 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate it all right, guys, that's going to do it 446 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: for us. A big thanks to Sean Foster, Brian Odom 447 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: and Bronco Mendenhall for joining me, and of course thanks 448 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: to you guys for listening. Remember keep it locked to 449 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers Podcast Network, download and subscribe wherever you listen 450 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: to podcasts. We'll keep things going throughout the month of May. 451 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys joining us during the month of April. 452 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: We had an awesome month here at the Chargers Podcast 453 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: Network and it's all because of you guys. 454 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: Thanks so much. 455 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, and until next time, I'm Chris Hary.