1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: Single best idea and our single best idea is when 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: there is tragedy, we go to the science of aviation 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: with Bloomberg Intelligence. This has obviously been a commitment by 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: Bloomberg for well over thirty years. It was definitive in 6 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: Dallas with George Ferguson and Mary Schlangenstein, and we just 7 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: build out an ability to look at Boeing and then 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: out of London and down to Paris to look at 9 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Toulouse and Airbus. We're committed to the coverage of aviation 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: and today was a very difficult day. We thank Danny 11 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: Lee and Bangkok who was absolutely spectacular on Asia in 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: the reach from the Pacific rim over to Mumbai and 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: Amenabad to speak after this terrible plane crash. In particular 14 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: George Ferguson yeoman's duty, not in Dallas, George Ferguson definitive 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: in the industry and Oslo at a conference. We thank 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: him for giving us some real wisdom on the seven 17 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 2: eighty seven, the seven seventy seven and our safety to fly. 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: Francis Donald stopped by with RBC Capital Markets wonderful to 19 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: calculation of GDP Francis Donald on these uncertain. 20 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Times, Well, there's all sorts of measures of uncertainty, and 21 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: no surprising, whatever measure you're using is at an all 22 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: time high. And what that means for forecasters but also 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: for businesses. My clients, the CEOs that I talk do 24 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: you hear from them? What I hear is we have 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: to risk manage around downside and upside. We can't have 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: one scenario that we base our business operations on. We 27 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: have to plan and prepare for a wide range. But 28 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: this uncertainty, it is not actual policy that is problematic here, 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: although yes, there are some elements of it that are problematic. 30 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: It's what is the game that we're playing. We cannot 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: write the playbook until we know what the game is itself, 32 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: And so forecasters and businesses are actually operating with much 33 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: ward wider set of scenarios available. 34 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: Francis Donald of RBC Capital Markets, the vice chairman and 35 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: the former vice chairman, Richard Clarita of Columbia University, and 36 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: of course all of his work at PIMCO was with 37 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: us today. This before the June eighteenth FED meeting. I 38 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: asked him a question I'm certain I've never asked him 39 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: before Richard Clarina on gold. 40 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: I'm following this pretty closely because the purchases in the 41 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: official data, the purchases of gold are large, and they've 42 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: been picking up. I'll share an anecdote with you. I 43 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: was in Asia ten years ago seeing a very sophisticated 44 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: official investor, official institution investor, and we were talking about 45 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: gold even then. This is like twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, 46 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: and that was in the context of Kiwi Infinity, and 47 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 3: I said to him, well, why invest in gold. You 48 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: can buy inflation index security. It gives you a hash 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: against inflation. And he looked at me and he said, 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: gold doesn't default. And so I don't think the US 51 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: is going to default either, but certainly we have seen 52 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: that allocation. And again talk about back to the future. 53 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: I mean central backs have been holding gold as a 54 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: reserve for hundreds of years, and so we're sort of 55 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: getting back into that mindset. 56 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: Richard Claire to there on gold. 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