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Wrestling? We are we're going to 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.800 talk about wrestling. I don't know, I never know. We're 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:39.920 going back in time all the way to I think 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:45.040 twenty twenty where let me see Oh Jesus No. Twenty nineteen. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:51.520 December sixteenth, twenty nineteen, we published a episode for Patreon 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:58.680 called ECW Holiday Hell Holiday Hell. Do you remember Holiday Hell? Well? 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:04.520 I remember the title, but I don't remember what I did. Well, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:07.320 you did something hillacious, that's for sure. You don't talk 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:11.040 about it. But one thing we've talked about on Patreon. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.920 We've talked about, you know, the one show where Shane 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.760 and Candido dressed up for Halloween one time. We've talked 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:19.920 about some of the shenanigans that go on. But Holiday 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.600 Hell was kind of like towards your end of the 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.520 year calendar at the Arena, and it was a couple 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.279 of years in the row that they would run this. 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:31.920 It's just just something to spice it up for the fans, 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.040 make it look special because it's around the Christmas time 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.240 and end of the year. Yeah it was. I mean, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.160 if you remember we had November to remember, we had 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.680 heat wave in the summertime, holiday, Hell, it was near 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:50.400 Christmas time. It was just the season. I guess Paul 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:53.520 would just do these shows according to what the season was. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.000 But I don't remember what I did on this show. Yeah, 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.279 I don't remember which match this is. I have to 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.680 listen to the full clip, but usually, especially if it 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.039 was after something like November, to remember, it would feature 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:10.720 some form of a rematch, Okay, but not like so 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:16.720 let's say November. Remember ninety six is Shane and Brian Levers, 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:21.119 Terry Funk and Tommy Dreamer. I believe the December show 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:26.080 was like a modified version of that match with no chunk. Okay, Well, 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.920 whatever it was, I'm sure it's it's wonderful and I'm 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.040 sure you'll enjoy listening to my recap of it because 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.560 when we shot this episode or filmed this episode, I 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.000 knew what I was talking about, and three years later, 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.279 I have no idea. That's right, But we are very 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:48.440 very again right now, so I can relive exactly everybody. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.640 She likes to be surprised folks, so that's why I 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:55.839 surprised her. I never know anything. On Patreon, we have 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.400 a ton of back content. We like to give it 0:05:58.440 --> 0:05:59.800 to you here as a previews so you can come 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.520 over and join us. And not only do you get 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.239 these episodes we post exclusively on Patreon, certain tier levels 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.560 you get access to private discord group where you get 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.839 chat with Francine and some other little bonuses that you 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.440 get as well. And it's never a dull moment on 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.240 the Patreon side. 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So if you want to 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.520 follow me, it's at Chat, E and B on Twitter, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.320 at ib Exclusives on Instagram, and head over to Patreon, Patreon, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.080 dot com, slash franccene podcast and across the board on 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:57.040 social media. You can find me at ECW Diva fan scene. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:02.800 But now, enjoy the show all right, Getting back here 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:08.400 on Patreon, the Patreon eyes up here extra trademarked copyright, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.160 so you can't steal that name. I thought about that 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.880 on the last one. I'm gonna sit in here today 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.720 with Francine to talk about ECW holiday hell shows from 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.640 way back in the day. But before we get into that, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.320 first we'll say hello to Franceneho is just taking a 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:25.560 sip of drink and just finish the banana. Hi, Francine, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:34.000 that was my lunch water. Yeah, very nice, hydrated and fulfilled. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.360 But I also want to make a quick announcement in 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.559 regards to the content here for Patreon. We're gonna be 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.400 adding one show in the new year. We're gonna wait 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.439 till the new year, though, so hold your horses. We're 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:49.920 gonna be talking more about specifically ECW, and I think 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.960 covering anything having to do with ECW, not just Francene, 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.320 but ECW as a whole, maybe something that popped up 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.520 a moment, a match, a card, something just a week. 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.800 Get specifically talk about that topic because I know a 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.880 lot of people want to talk more about ECW just 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.600 because they love ECW. And we'll leave this open to 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.840 talk about whatever. Like last week we talked about the 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.400 Sam Man and the Restle Caide fiasco. You know, other 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.400 times we've talked about more general things. So that show 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:21.599 will add a different or secondary Patreon show specifically about ECW. 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.880 We're not going to divert ECW only, and that's coming 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:30.080 in twenty twenty. That's all. You're working me too much, Chad, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.600 I'm exhausted. If you give me an extra twenty minutes 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.880 every time we record, then you will be set to go. Okay, 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.559 I can do that, but anything for the Patreon family, 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:42.040 that's right. I want you guys to stay, So we 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.720 want to give you extra content when we can. And 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.800 if there's anything you want us to talk about, leave it, 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.040 give it on the what do we do? We have 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.679 a message board or you can comment under and I 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:55.240 think you can kind of do both things. You can 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.360 either send a message on the Patreon message portal, or 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.120 you can comment underneath a video and just tell us 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.960 what it is that you want to hear or see 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.800 or whatever. Because I think this is a you know, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.360 even in the podcast world, this is a market that 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.920 really hasn't kind of been like touched on. And I 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.400 know with you, I mean, you were there for so long, 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.880 you saw so much of it. It's cool to to 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:17.520 kind of shoot things out. You see what you we live. 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.400 But also I mean there's a couple of years that 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.760 you weren't there that maybe I could send you some 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.800 clips and we can talk about something that happened even 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.120 before you got there, because this will be an ECW retrospective, 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.120 and I just think that'll be a cool little thing 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:34.160 to day. Yeah, these wonderful folks, the early Eastern days 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.480 are Yeah, we're talking like, you know, Jimmy Snooka versus 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:43.280 Don Morocco before I didn't get there the late ninety three, 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:48.199 so anything before then. I'm not like prevy too. I've 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.240 had a lot of recent nineties nostalgia, like a lot, 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.520 I really you know, I mean, I was you know, 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.640 I was younger. It was early teen in the early 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.760 or preteen, early nineties, and there was just so much 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.160 stuff that like, looking back, I wish I either like 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.480 knew about or saw And like, I get nostalgic for 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.520 the eighties a lot, because I was a wee whipper 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:10.600 snapper at the time. But I don't know some about 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:12.640 the nineties lately. I almost wish like I was born 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.440 five years earlier, so I could have gotten in on 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.400 some of those some of those cool trends and things. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.400 And you know, I don't know, I I tell me, well, no, 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:27.760 I often wonder if I was born later, would my 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.760 path have led me to wrestling or would it be 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.320 somewhere else, Because I mean, you have to remember I 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.800 was a Philly girl, right and ECW was based out 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:40.320 of Philadelphia, and that's you know, I just called that 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:43.680 number and that's the way I got in. But nowadays 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:48.120 you don't do that, you know. It's like, I mean, 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.679 unless I really wanted to do it and did what 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.080 like Salida or a Leasha show up at these indies 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.280 shows and hope somebody recognizes me. Like, I don't know 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.120 if I would have did that back then or now 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.640 if I was twenty years old. I guess you really 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:04.880 have to have a passion for it, you know. I 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:10.000 was just trying to transition jobs because I thought wrestling 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.679 looked cool and it was something that you know what 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.760 I mean, Like it wasn't something I grew up really 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.040 wanting to do. Right. But I always say to myself, Gosh, 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:22.720 I like today you can't just pick up a phone 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.440 and make a call and meet somebody and go down 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.640 and train and hope that they like you. Like it's 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.240 different like the performance center. You have to get it, 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.000 like it's a whole different thing now, you know. So 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:35.480 I don't. I don't know. I don't know if I'd 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.840 be in the business if I was twenty in twenty nineteen. Like, 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.600 it's something I think about. You know, it's weird about that. 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.679 And maybe because people in this day and age think 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.720 about so when they broke in, they might not necessarily 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:49.719 have broken in the way you did of that same thing. 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.640 They might have had to go through a wrestling school 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.400 and call them I did. I'm talking about like the 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.520 I know what you're talking I meaning like, like let's 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.360 just say like like the performance center, right, I'm talking 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.160 about even guys that broken ten years ago, if they're 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:05.640 teaching at a school, they only know how to go 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.120 through like that set up. Do you know what I'm 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:13.400 trying to say? Like it's you continue, I'm watching what 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.120 I want to say, you continue? Get me back up there, 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.760 I think, I I mean, I might be wrong, but 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.640 don't you have to like have be invited to the 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:25.160 performance center and get it. It's a whole different Yeah, right, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:26.440 it's a whole Right, That's what I'm trying to say. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:28.840 It's a whole thing. Right. So for me, like I 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:30.920 watched it on TV. I thought it looked cool. I 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.760 picked up the phone. I went and Todd Gordon and 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.120 thank god I had talent, which I didn't know I 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:39.440 had because I was never an actress or anything. But 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.199 I just went there and I worked and they liked 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.400 what they saw and I got a contract. Yeah you 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.360 know what I mean, Like, uh, but it's not as 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.320 simple as that, That's what I'm trying to Yeah, but 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.560 I did have to go through the wrestling school, but 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.120 it wasn't like I had to like audition to get 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:54.480 you got an audition now, I mean you got to 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.560 Basically it's so different, right, And I'm saying that people 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:01.200 who train under that model now when they if they 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.720 want to become a trainer and say fifteen years, that's 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.920 all they know. They don't know the actual like the 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.679 grit side of it and like the you know, oh, 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.080 I know, taking a chance or like an Alisha or 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.800 Selena go into a show and what it's you know, 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.200 it's it's it's a different world. And I tell you what, 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.120 the way I was trained is not the way that 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.600 these girls are trained. So if I would never do 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.200 it now because I'm too old, But if I went 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:28.240 into the ring now and you know, showed them what 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.040 I would they would be like, we don't do that 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:32.800 here because it's a whole different world over there, you 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.360 know what I mean. So it's just a different concept. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.000 But were all these other little things that they all 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.680 adapt that model? Now, yes, it's all that everybody's picking 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.760 up on that model. Well, yeah, well that's we can 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.280 go off on another change. I'm I want to focus 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.120 on the holiday hell things. I want to get people 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.840 a preview of what we'll talk about on that ECW 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.040 extra show. So ECW Holiday Health it was an annual event. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.680 It was a ninety three through two thousand and one thing. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.480 We'll go through a couple of the cards, a couple 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.880 of the matches. But you remember any of these holiday 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.960 health shows and kind of like, you know, was that 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:04.760 like a wrap up towards the end of the year 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:09.880 kind of thing? Yeah? Yeah, you know, me with my memory, 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:15.440 it's not very good. I remember the name. I couldn't 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.960 tell you where where we wrestled. I think it was 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.240 New York most of the time. Yes, okay, so I 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.480 know that. I don't know if it was the Elks 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:29.120 Lodge or somewhere else, but yeah, it was. It was 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.320 the It was the end of the year for us, 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.840 you know, and because we had November to remember and 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.520 then it would go into holiday hell, and then we 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.680 would start a new year. But I could honestly, I 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.000 can't tell you what I did on any of the shows. 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.000 We'll talk about that, but yeah, it's just it was. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:48.239 It was basically either the week before or days after Christmas. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:52.040 And you know, I know specifically there's some that you 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.240 know that you've definitely seen clips of if you've watched 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.720 you know, old DCW programming. Uh, and just scanning through 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.440 the list, I mean, I'm trying to I want to 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:02.760 just go. I want to stop by the first one 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.840 just to tell you, like what was on here, because 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.480 let me see here, there's an early Shane and Tommy 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.120 singles match from nineteen ninety three. It was called the 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.560 body Count. But this one was actually in Philly, so 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.520 it was before they even moved to New York, because 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:18.680 I believe, I don't know if it was it was, Oh, 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:22.160 is that the Lost Battalion Hall? So it was it 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:26.600 was Queens Rego Park. Let me just see here. I'm 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:31.840 gonna try and find some highlights quickly. Yeah, that was 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:35.280 that was before I was even in the locker room. 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.480 I started training like at the end of the year 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:43.520 in ninety three. So, so I see you here in 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:45.000 ninety five, but I'm just going back to ninety four. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:46.280 I want to see if you pop up on this 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.000 one at all. No, I won't. You want to be 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.080 ninety four even end of the year. Okay, all right, 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.120 So your first So your first appearance at Holiday Hell 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.600 in the corner of the Pitbulls as they took on 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:02.000 the Eliminators in a tag team match. Yeah, so nineteen five, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.040 it's the end of ninety five in early ninety six. 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.879 It's right before Shane came back. I think this is 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.640 actually the last group of shows that Shane came back, 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:14.840 and it was right before mc foley left. So that's 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.359 why it's kind of a transition time in ECW because 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.600 Foley's about to leave, Shane's about to come back. Anything, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.040 Am I toggling anything for you? Thinking thinking back in 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.560 the old dream machine? No, because well, number one, I 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.560 didn't know Shane was coming back. I'm gonna be honest. 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.480 I didn't know much about Shane Douglas at all before 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.439 I met him. I really didn't. I wasn't an avid 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.080 wrestling fan, and I'm embarrassed to say this because like, 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.879 back then, I really should have did my homework before 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:45.239 I dared to set foot in the ring. But I 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:49.080 never went back and watched old stuff. So a lot 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.040 of the people I didn't know who they were. And 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.640 then once I started working, I'm like, okay, I need 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.640 to because and remember this too, the internet wasn't as 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.240 friendly back then. I couldn't just pull up certain things, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.119 and there were no smartphones around and this and that, 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:06.960 so I was meeting a lot of legends that I 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.640 didn't even know what they did, Like, I didn't know 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.119 how important they were. So when I met Shane, I 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.840 knew that like he had worked with Sherry before before me, 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.480 because I was such a fan of Sherry, right, was 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:24.920 a fan of Shane. I was a fan of Sherry. 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.159 But you know, once I heard that him and I 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.399 were going to be paired up together, I did some 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.879 homework and some research and wah, yeah that you know, 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.480 you had to, But I wasn't a wrestling fan growing up, 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:43.320 so my knowledge was very very minimal. Well, so Shane 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.359 comes back, and that's obviously, you know, the catalyst for 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.720 what would be that year, because the next year you're 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.280 teaming now with the old franchise. Oh, taking on Buell 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:53.879 and Tommy Dreamer. I know on a match that you 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:56.960 guys would have quite often, but again, this one is 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:59.399 on the same night that Raven beats the Salmon in 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.440 the barber Ye match for the world title. Well all 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:07.320 I all I know is Brian Lee was so adamant 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.320 about taking me with him. He would tell me all 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.199 the time, you're coming with me, You're coming with me. 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:16.080 So I always thought I was going with Brian Lee 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:19.440 to the point where I was gonna buy chaps, okay, 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.880 like because I always tried, Like with Stevie, I had 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.399 the half shorts and the shirt, and I tried to 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.119 match the person I was with Pipples. I had to 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.760 wear the god awful vinyl or whatever the hell it was, 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.600 which I hate it with a passion. And then I 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.000 remember Paul calling me and just saying, you know who 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.000 I'm putting you with, right, And I was like, yeah, 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.600 Brian Lee, who I love? You know, Brian's great, And 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.000 He's like, who the hell told you that? And I said, well, 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.480 Brian Lee. He goes, Brian Lee doesn't know anything. You're 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.199 gonna go with the franchise and I was like what 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.560 So I didn't even know what was happening. It was 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:57.000 just all new to me. So they I don't know 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.960 if Shane knew before that, but there was this place 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:05.600 all along to put us together. Interesting. Yeah, I didn't know. 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:09.200 I had no clue. And then we were practically married 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.760 to Tommy and Bulah for like the three and a 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.280 half years, you know. And I told you before, if 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:18.040 Shane never left and Teresa never left, we probably would 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:20.520 have worked with them until two thousand and one because 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:26.640 the four of us had incredible chemistry and just we 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.359 all four of us enjoyed working together so much. It 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.880 was so easy. It was just so easy. And it 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.199 was when I would get to work and see that 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:37.000 I was working with them, I was like night off, 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:41.440 so so fun, you know, like I loved it, loved it. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.000 So some of my favorite times were working with those two. 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:46.960 And I'll tell you what I actually, you know, I 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:49.520 botched a little something there. Actually after ninety six, there 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:53.159 wasn't another help till two thousand. Yeah, you know, I 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.679 remember them not promoting it for a while, but I 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:58.960 didn't know how many years we skipped. But this is 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.640 like looking back at those ninety five. See, my favorite 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.640 era of ECW was ninety five ninety six, So when 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.480 we'd even do the retrospectors, there's going to be a 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:09.760 little heavy emphasis on those because I personally love those 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:12.879 shows because that's around the time I first discovered it 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:16.719 was like mid ninety five. But jumping ahead to two thousand, 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.560 I mean, like it's a completely different group of people. 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.439 So that's a great question. So the difference between the 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.680 end of ECW guys in kind of the middle was there? 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.360