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Speaker 1: with the Queen of Extreme ready to talk about what
Speaker 1: do you think today? Wrestling? We are we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about wrestling. I don't know, I never know. We're
Speaker 1: going back in time all the way to I think
Speaker 1: twenty twenty where let me see Oh Jesus No. Twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: December sixteenth, twenty nineteen, we published a episode for Patreon
Speaker 1: called ECW Holiday Hell Holiday Hell. Do you remember Holiday Hell? Well?
Speaker 1: I remember the title, but I don't remember what I did. Well,
Speaker 1: you did something hillacious, that's for sure. You don't talk
Speaker 1: about it. But one thing we've talked about on Patreon.
Speaker 1: We've talked about, you know, the one show where Shane
Speaker 1: and Candido dressed up for Halloween one time. We've talked
Speaker 1: about some of the shenanigans that go on. But Holiday
Speaker 1: Hell was kind of like towards your end of the
Speaker 1: year calendar at the Arena, and it was a couple
Speaker 1: of years in the row that they would run this.
Speaker 1: It's just just something to spice it up for the fans,
Speaker 1: make it look special because it's around the Christmas time
Speaker 1: and end of the year. Yeah it was. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you remember we had November to remember, we had
Speaker 1: heat wave in the summertime, holiday, Hell, it was near
Speaker 1: Christmas time. It was just the season. I guess Paul
Speaker 1: would just do these shows according to what the season was.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember what I did on this show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't remember which match this is. I have to
Speaker 1: listen to the full clip, but usually, especially if it
Speaker 1: was after something like November, to remember, it would feature
Speaker 1: some form of a rematch, Okay, but not like so
Speaker 1: let's say November. Remember ninety six is Shane and Brian Levers,
Speaker 1: Terry Funk and Tommy Dreamer. I believe the December show
Speaker 1: was like a modified version of that match with no chunk. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: whatever it was, I'm sure it's it's wonderful and I'm
Speaker 1: sure you'll enjoy listening to my recap of it because
Speaker 1: when we shot this episode or filmed this episode, I
Speaker 1: knew what I was talking about, and three years later,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. That's right, But we are very
Speaker 1: very again right now, so I can relive exactly everybody.
Speaker 1: She likes to be surprised folks, so that's why I
Speaker 1: surprised her. I never know anything. On Patreon, we have
Speaker 1: a ton of back content. We like to give it
Speaker 1: to you here as a previews so you can come
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Speaker 1: these episodes we post exclusively on Patreon, certain tier levels
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Speaker 1: on Patreon, the Patreon eyes up here extra trademarked copyright,
Speaker 1: so you can't steal that name. I thought about that
Speaker 1: on the last one. I'm gonna sit in here today
Speaker 1: with Francine to talk about ECW holiday hell shows from
Speaker 1: way back in the day. But before we get into that,
Speaker 1: first we'll say hello to Franceneho is just taking a
Speaker 1: sip of drink and just finish the banana. Hi, Francine,
Speaker 1: that was my lunch water. Yeah, very nice, hydrated and fulfilled.
Speaker 1: But I also want to make a quick announcement in
Speaker 1: regards to the content here for Patreon. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: adding one show in the new year. We're gonna wait
Speaker 1: till the new year, though, so hold your horses. We're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking more about specifically ECW, and I think
Speaker 1: covering anything having to do with ECW, not just Francene,
Speaker 1: but ECW as a whole, maybe something that popped up
Speaker 1: a moment, a match, a card, something just a week.
Speaker 1: Get specifically talk about that topic because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people want to talk more about ECW just
Speaker 1: because they love ECW. And we'll leave this open to
Speaker 1: talk about whatever. Like last week we talked about the
Speaker 1: Sam Man and the Restle Caide fiasco. You know, other
Speaker 1: times we've talked about more general things. So that show
Speaker 1: will add a different or secondary Patreon show specifically about ECW.
Speaker 1: We're not going to divert ECW only, and that's coming
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. That's all. You're working me too much, Chad,
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. If you give me an extra twenty minutes
Speaker 1: every time we record, then you will be set to go. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can do that, but anything for the Patreon family,
Speaker 1: that's right. I want you guys to stay, So we
Speaker 1: want to give you extra content when we can. And
Speaker 1: if there's anything you want us to talk about, leave it,
Speaker 1: give it on the what do we do? We have
Speaker 1: a message board or you can comment under and I
Speaker 1: think you can kind of do both things. You can
Speaker 1: either send a message on the Patreon message portal, or
Speaker 1: you can comment underneath a video and just tell us
Speaker 1: what it is that you want to hear or see
Speaker 1: or whatever. Because I think this is a you know,
Speaker 1: even in the podcast world, this is a market that
Speaker 1: really hasn't kind of been like touched on. And I
Speaker 1: know with you, I mean, you were there for so long,
Speaker 1: you saw so much of it. It's cool to to
Speaker 1: kind of shoot things out. You see what you we live.
Speaker 1: But also I mean there's a couple of years that
Speaker 1: you weren't there that maybe I could send you some
Speaker 1: clips and we can talk about something that happened even
Speaker 1: before you got there, because this will be an ECW retrospective,
Speaker 1: and I just think that'll be a cool little thing
Speaker 1: to day. Yeah, these wonderful folks, the early Eastern days
Speaker 1: are Yeah, we're talking like, you know, Jimmy Snooka versus
Speaker 1: Don Morocco before I didn't get there the late ninety three,
Speaker 1: so anything before then. I'm not like prevy too. I've
Speaker 1: had a lot of recent nineties nostalgia, like a lot,
Speaker 1: I really you know, I mean, I was you know,
Speaker 1: I was younger. It was early teen in the early
Speaker 1: or preteen, early nineties, and there was just so much
Speaker 1: stuff that like, looking back, I wish I either like
Speaker 1: knew about or saw And like, I get nostalgic for
Speaker 1: the eighties a lot, because I was a wee whipper
Speaker 1: snapper at the time. But I don't know some about
Speaker 1: the nineties lately. I almost wish like I was born
Speaker 1: five years earlier, so I could have gotten in on
Speaker 1: some of those some of those cool trends and things.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, I I tell me, well, no,
Speaker 1: I often wonder if I was born later, would my
Speaker 1: path have led me to wrestling or would it be
Speaker 1: somewhere else, Because I mean, you have to remember I
Speaker 1: was a Philly girl, right and ECW was based out
Speaker 1: of Philadelphia, and that's you know, I just called that
Speaker 1: number and that's the way I got in. But nowadays
Speaker 1: you don't do that, you know. It's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: unless I really wanted to do it and did what
Speaker 1: like Salida or a Leasha show up at these indies
Speaker 1: shows and hope somebody recognizes me. Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I would have did that back then or now
Speaker 1: if I was twenty years old. I guess you really
Speaker 1: have to have a passion for it, you know. I
Speaker 1: was just trying to transition jobs because I thought wrestling
Speaker 1: looked cool and it was something that you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it wasn't something I grew up really
Speaker 1: wanting to do. Right. But I always say to myself, Gosh,
Speaker 1: I like today you can't just pick up a phone
Speaker 1: and make a call and meet somebody and go down
Speaker 1: and train and hope that they like you. Like it's
Speaker 1: different like the performance center. You have to get it,
Speaker 1: like it's a whole different thing now, you know. So
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I don't know if I'd
Speaker 1: be in the business if I was twenty in twenty nineteen. Like,
Speaker 1: it's something I think about. You know, it's weird about that.
Speaker 1: And maybe because people in this day and age think
Speaker 1: about so when they broke in, they might not necessarily
Speaker 1: have broken in the way you did of that same thing.
Speaker 1: They might have had to go through a wrestling school
Speaker 1: and call them I did. I'm talking about like the
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking I meaning like, like let's
Speaker 1: just say like like the performance center, right, I'm talking
Speaker 1: about even guys that broken ten years ago, if they're
Speaker 1: teaching at a school, they only know how to go
Speaker 1: through like that set up. Do you know what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say? Like it's you continue, I'm watching what
Speaker 1: I want to say, you continue? Get me back up there,
Speaker 1: I think, I I mean, I might be wrong, but
Speaker 1: don't you have to like have be invited to the
Speaker 1: performance center and get it. It's a whole different Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it's a whole Right, That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. Right. So for me, like I
Speaker 1: watched it on TV. I thought it looked cool. I
Speaker 1: picked up the phone. I went and Todd Gordon and
Speaker 1: thank god I had talent, which I didn't know I
Speaker 1: had because I was never an actress or anything. But
Speaker 1: I just went there and I worked and they liked
Speaker 1: what they saw and I got a contract. Yeah you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, uh, but it's not as
Speaker 1: simple as that, That's what I'm trying to Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I did have to go through the wrestling school, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I had to like audition to get
Speaker 1: you got an audition now, I mean you got to
Speaker 1: Basically it's so different, right, And I'm saying that people
Speaker 1: who train under that model now when they if they
Speaker 1: want to become a trainer and say fifteen years, that's
Speaker 1: all they know. They don't know the actual like the
Speaker 1: grit side of it and like the you know, oh,
Speaker 1: I know, taking a chance or like an Alisha or
Speaker 1: Selena go into a show and what it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a different world. And I tell you what,
Speaker 1: the way I was trained is not the way that
Speaker 1: these girls are trained. So if I would never do
Speaker 1: it now because I'm too old, But if I went
Speaker 1: into the ring now and you know, showed them what
Speaker 1: I would they would be like, we don't do that
Speaker 1: here because it's a whole different world over there, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's just a different concept.
Speaker 1: But were all these other little things that they all
Speaker 1: adapt that model? Now, yes, it's all that everybody's picking
Speaker 1: up on that model. Well, yeah, well that's we can
Speaker 1: go off on another change. I'm I want to focus
Speaker 1: on the holiday hell things. I want to get people
Speaker 1: a preview of what we'll talk about on that ECW
Speaker 1: extra show. So ECW Holiday Health it was an annual event.
Speaker 1: It was a ninety three through two thousand and one thing.
Speaker 1: We'll go through a couple of the cards, a couple
Speaker 1: of the matches. But you remember any of these holiday
Speaker 1: health shows and kind of like, you know, was that
Speaker 1: like a wrap up towards the end of the year
Speaker 1: kind of thing? Yeah? Yeah, you know, me with my memory,
Speaker 1: it's not very good. I remember the name. I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell you where where we wrestled. I think it was
Speaker 1: New York most of the time. Yes, okay, so I
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know if it was the Elks
Speaker 1: Lodge or somewhere else, but yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: the It was the end of the year for us,
Speaker 1: you know, and because we had November to remember and
Speaker 1: then it would go into holiday hell, and then we
Speaker 1: would start a new year. But I could honestly, I
Speaker 1: can't tell you what I did on any of the shows.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, but yeah, it's just it was.
Speaker 1: It was basically either the week before or days after Christmas.
Speaker 1: And you know, I know specifically there's some that you
Speaker 1: know that you've definitely seen clips of if you've watched
Speaker 1: you know, old DCW programming. Uh, and just scanning through
Speaker 1: the list, I mean, I'm trying to I want to
Speaker 1: just go. I want to stop by the first one
Speaker 1: just to tell you, like what was on here, because
Speaker 1: let me see here, there's an early Shane and Tommy
Speaker 1: singles match from nineteen ninety three. It was called the
Speaker 1: body Count. But this one was actually in Philly, so
Speaker 1: it was before they even moved to New York, because
Speaker 1: I believe, I don't know if it was it was, Oh,
Speaker 1: is that the Lost Battalion Hall? So it was it
Speaker 1: was Queens Rego Park. Let me just see here. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try and find some highlights quickly. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was before I was even in the locker room.
Speaker 1: I started training like at the end of the year
Speaker 1: in ninety three. So, so I see you here in
Speaker 1: ninety five, but I'm just going back to ninety four.
Speaker 1: I want to see if you pop up on this
Speaker 1: one at all. No, I won't. You want to be
Speaker 1: ninety four even end of the year. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: So your first So your first appearance at Holiday Hell
Speaker 1: in the corner of the Pitbulls as they took on
Speaker 1: the Eliminators in a tag team match. Yeah, so nineteen five,
Speaker 1: it's the end of ninety five in early ninety six.
Speaker 1: It's right before Shane came back. I think this is
Speaker 1: actually the last group of shows that Shane came back,
Speaker 1: and it was right before mc foley left. So that's
Speaker 1: why it's kind of a transition time in ECW because
Speaker 1: Foley's about to leave, Shane's about to come back. Anything,
Speaker 1: Am I toggling anything for you? Thinking thinking back in
Speaker 1: the old dream machine? No, because well, number one, I
Speaker 1: didn't know Shane was coming back. I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I didn't know much about Shane Douglas at all before
Speaker 1: I met him. I really didn't. I wasn't an avid
Speaker 1: wrestling fan, and I'm embarrassed to say this because like,
Speaker 1: back then, I really should have did my homework before
Speaker 1: I dared to set foot in the ring. But I
Speaker 1: never went back and watched old stuff. So a lot
Speaker 1: of the people I didn't know who they were. And
Speaker 1: then once I started working, I'm like, okay, I need
Speaker 1: to because and remember this too, the internet wasn't as
Speaker 1: friendly back then. I couldn't just pull up certain things,
Speaker 1: and there were no smartphones around and this and that,
Speaker 1: so I was meeting a lot of legends that I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what they did, Like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: how important they were. So when I met Shane, I
Speaker 1: knew that like he had worked with Sherry before before me,
Speaker 1: because I was such a fan of Sherry, right, was
Speaker 1: a fan of Shane. I was a fan of Sherry.
Speaker 1: But you know, once I heard that him and I
Speaker 1: were going to be paired up together, I did some
Speaker 1: homework and some research and wah, yeah that you know,
Speaker 1: you had to, But I wasn't a wrestling fan growing up,
Speaker 1: so my knowledge was very very minimal. Well, so Shane
Speaker 1: comes back, and that's obviously, you know, the catalyst for
Speaker 1: what would be that year, because the next year you're
Speaker 1: teaming now with the old franchise. Oh, taking on Buell
Speaker 1: and Tommy Dreamer. I know on a match that you
Speaker 1: guys would have quite often, but again, this one is
Speaker 1: on the same night that Raven beats the Salmon in
Speaker 1: the barber Ye match for the world title. Well all
Speaker 1: I all I know is Brian Lee was so adamant
Speaker 1: about taking me with him. He would tell me all
Speaker 1: the time, you're coming with me, You're coming with me.
Speaker 1: So I always thought I was going with Brian Lee
Speaker 1: to the point where I was gonna buy chaps, okay,
Speaker 1: like because I always tried, Like with Stevie, I had
Speaker 1: the half shorts and the shirt, and I tried to
Speaker 1: match the person I was with Pipples. I had to
Speaker 1: wear the god awful vinyl or whatever the hell it was,
Speaker 1: which I hate it with a passion. And then I
Speaker 1: remember Paul calling me and just saying, you know who
Speaker 1: I'm putting you with, right, And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Brian Lee, who I love? You know, Brian's great, And
Speaker 1: He's like, who the hell told you that? And I said, well,
Speaker 1: Brian Lee. He goes, Brian Lee doesn't know anything. You're
Speaker 1: gonna go with the franchise and I was like what
Speaker 1: So I didn't even know what was happening. It was
Speaker 1: just all new to me. So they I don't know
Speaker 1: if Shane knew before that, but there was this place
Speaker 1: all along to put us together. Interesting. Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I had no clue. And then we were practically married
Speaker 1: to Tommy and Bulah for like the three and a
Speaker 1: half years, you know. And I told you before, if
Speaker 1: Shane never left and Teresa never left, we probably would
Speaker 1: have worked with them until two thousand and one because
Speaker 1: the four of us had incredible chemistry and just we
Speaker 1: all four of us enjoyed working together so much. It
Speaker 1: was so easy. It was just so easy. And it
Speaker 1: was when I would get to work and see that
Speaker 1: I was working with them, I was like night off,
Speaker 1: so so fun, you know, like I loved it, loved it.
Speaker 1: So some of my favorite times were working with those two.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I actually, you know, I
Speaker 1: botched a little something there. Actually after ninety six, there
Speaker 1: wasn't another help till two thousand. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: remember them not promoting it for a while, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know how many years we skipped. But this is
Speaker 1: like looking back at those ninety five. See, my favorite
Speaker 1: era of ECW was ninety five ninety six, So when
Speaker 1: we'd even do the retrospectors, there's going to be a
Speaker 1: little heavy emphasis on those because I personally love those
Speaker 1: shows because that's around the time I first discovered it
Speaker 1: was like mid ninety five. But jumping ahead to two thousand,
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's a completely different group of people.
Speaker 1: So that's a great question. So the difference between the
Speaker 1: end of ECW guys in kind of the middle was there?
Speaker 1: I know the camaraderie was always very strong, but did
Speaker 1: you feel any difference between the maybe the the elder
Speaker 1: statesman of the ECW originals and in the later half
Speaker 1: the people were some people were pissed when people would leave.
Speaker 1: I never like resent it anybody leaving, Like you had
Speaker 1: to do what was best for your family and if
Speaker 1: you were taking another job with more money, like go ahead.
Speaker 1: When Shane left, you know, it upset me because we
Speaker 1: were such a good team. So in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm like, oh my god, what is going
Speaker 1: to happen to? Like who am I going to go with?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I wasn't really sure.
Speaker 1: But the great thing is when somebody left, there was
Speaker 1: always somebody to move up and take that spot, you know,
Speaker 1: because Paul was just grooming the younger kids who maybe
Speaker 1: were opening act. Now they're going to move the mid card.
Speaker 1: Mid card is going to get a chance to shine
Speaker 1: and maybe semi or main event or whatever. So you know,
Speaker 1: Paul knew what he was doing. There were always people
Speaker 1: outside trying to get in. There was always you know,
Speaker 1: people indie guys waiting on the steps with their gear bags,
Speaker 1: you know, because we used to have like an open
Speaker 1: tryout and they would work with the boys and a
Speaker 1: lot of them would leave crying, which was horrible to see.
Speaker 1: I hated it, but you know there there. When people left,
Speaker 1: it just opened up a spot for one of the
Speaker 1: younger guys to move up. So you know, it's a
Speaker 1: completely different group, yeah, you know. I mean that's when
Speaker 1: you have your Danny Dorian Roadkills in there, Chili Willie,
Speaker 1: who I love. Chili Willy is awesome, easy money, you know.
Speaker 1: And then you got guys that moved on into different spots.
Speaker 1: You know, C. W Anderson sends and you know it's
Speaker 1: the even nova on his own. I mean like that,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of changes. Well, I hate when people
Speaker 1: say we started to lack the lack of star power,
Speaker 1: and it's just like creating new stars exactly. That's what
Speaker 1: Paul did. You know. It was like there were a
Speaker 1: couple of people in the beginning that already had names,
Speaker 1: but most of us were We weren't known anywhere, right,
Speaker 1: you know, and he made us these larger than life figures.
Speaker 1: I feel, you know, in my opinion, I think the
Speaker 1: company left its footprint on the business. Oh yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, And I hate what we're referred to as
Speaker 1: this little indie company. We weren't an indie company. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a difference. We had television, we had pay per views.
Speaker 1: There's just poor money management. Yeah, you were the numbers.
Speaker 1: We were the number three out of the big three,
Speaker 1: but on the heels of two and one the whole time,
Speaker 1: and each company made their changes because of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were. We were at the at the heels of
Speaker 1: WCW for sure. For sure. I mean there was a
Speaker 1: point when we were getting numbers. At least I was
Speaker 1: told that we were out drawing them at house shows.
Speaker 1: Oh I believe that at one point, and we were
Speaker 1: just like yeah, so like they started Channing were number three.
Speaker 1: As a joke, we're number two. We're number two, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just being silly, But we all
Speaker 1: worked very hard, no matter if there was ten people
Speaker 1: or a million people, we just worked hard and gave
Speaker 1: it one hundred percent every show and just wanted to
Speaker 1: make it a good experience for everyone who paid for
Speaker 1: a ticket. Yeah, and that night main eventing in the
Speaker 1: corner of just incredible against Steve Carino and the Sandman.
Speaker 1: So two thousand, that's in two thousands, So you made
Speaker 1: your impact. You know, you're in the three prominent matches
Speaker 1: on three of these shows, So you made you mark
Speaker 1: on ECW Holiday Hell. And I love little theme shows
Speaker 1: like that, you know, whether it's like a season's beatings
Speaker 1: or you know the Holiday Elt or I forget what,
Speaker 1: oh god, I think what did the WWF call it?
Speaker 1: They had another one that was kind of like in
Speaker 1: the same vein. I just always love those theme shows
Speaker 1: because when they would be promoted, they'd have the cool
Speaker 1: graphics with it, everything would be catered to, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever the holidy was. I just did little little things
Speaker 1: from a production standpoint that I that I absolutely love.
Speaker 1: But yeah, just talking about that you know, this is
Speaker 1: what we'll cover on the ECW extra. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to get Francine the footage of what we're talking about
Speaker 1: so you can see it. Shoot it at me. Do
Speaker 1: you know? Really quick to add that I was studying
Speaker 1: the production end when I worked there. I've heard you
Speaker 1: say that that's intriguing to me. Yes, it's an interesting
Speaker 1: world and it's so different from what you were probably
Speaker 1: learning then to now, unbelievable. First of all, you know
Speaker 1: rob a phone. We were in Ron's parents' house, a
Speaker 1: den which is probably as big as some Boddy's bathroom,
Speaker 1: a large bathroom, but a bathroom, a narrow, large bathroom,
Speaker 1: and all the equipment was there. So I would go
Speaker 1: up on like Mondays and watch Paul because I said, Paul,
Speaker 1: I want to learn. I want to know what you're
Speaker 1: doing because I can't be in front of the camera
Speaker 1: my whole life. Maybe someday i'll be behind the camera.
Speaker 1: And I'm intrigued. And he said, well, you're welcome to calm.
Speaker 1: So I'd drive up to New York and I'd sit
Speaker 1: there and i'd watch him at it the show. And
Speaker 1: I did that several times, several times, and I remember
Speaker 1: they would let me sleep on the couch, and so
Speaker 1: you're waking up in the morning, and sometimes we would
Speaker 1: have to film on airs at like six am because
Speaker 1: Joey Styles would come in before he went to work,
Speaker 1: so I'd be up at like five point thirty trying
Speaker 1: to get me And a lot of times that's why
Speaker 1: I have sunglasses on in these promos, because it was
Speaker 1: so freaking early in the morning and I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like doing my face at that time. But I'd sleep
Speaker 1: on the couch and you here, Franccene, wake up because
Speaker 1: they're Italian, wake up. And I'd look up and there's
Speaker 1: the mom. You want some breakfast. I'm okay, you know
Speaker 1: it's fine thirty where I'm dying. They always made us food.
Speaker 1: They were always welcoming and gracious. We would shoot in
Speaker 1: the basement. There was the banner that you always saw.
Speaker 1: It was downstairs in the basement. The mom sometimes would
Speaker 1: be ironing, yeah, and we'd be like on the other end.
Speaker 1: If you watch the documentary Beyond the Mat, you can
Speaker 1: see that. But yeah, I was so intrigued by how
Speaker 1: Paul put that show together, and I just wanted to learn.
Speaker 1: So there's a little timboit for you. I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's very cool. I've been meaning to ask you about
Speaker 1: that since they heard you say that in something I
Speaker 1: was I was checking out. So yeah, we'll wrap it
Speaker 1: up here. But again, we will add this show in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It's probably gonna be about the same duration.
Speaker 1: You know, you're fifteen twenty minutes, but it's just a
Speaker 1: little extra, just a little something. But we're gonna have
Speaker 1: Francine review whatever we're gonna talk about. And that's not
Speaker 1: just because you can't remember. That's just because I want
Speaker 1: you to actually see things because I wanted to toggle
Speaker 1: the memory, so don't so don't think I'm now losing
Speaker 1: faith in your memory skills. Thirteen weeks. Oh god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if there's something that you guys want to see,
Speaker 1: or an incident that happened that you're curious about, leave it,
Speaker 1: leave a comment for us and we'll look into it
Speaker 1: for you and maybe we'll talk about it on a
Speaker 1: future episode. Yep, absolutely all right. So for the Queen
Speaker 1: of Extreme Francine, this is the old chadst And as
Speaker 1: we will sign off here for another week, I will
Speaker 1: catch you on the flip side