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I've just been kind of ter 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: sending episodes in, but now I've got a fresh intro 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: with the Queen of Extreme ready to talk about what 62 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: do you think today? Wrestling? We are we're going to 63 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: talk about wrestling. I don't know, I never know. We're 64 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: going back in time all the way to I think 65 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty where let me see Oh Jesus No. Twenty nineteen. 66 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: December sixteenth, twenty nineteen, we published a episode for Patreon 67 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: called ECW Holiday Hell Holiday Hell. Do you remember Holiday Hell? Well? 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: I remember the title, but I don't remember what I did. Well, 69 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: you did something hillacious, that's for sure. You don't talk 70 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: about it. But one thing we've talked about on Patreon. 71 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about, you know, the one show where Shane 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: and Candido dressed up for Halloween one time. We've talked 73 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: about some of the shenanigans that go on. But Holiday 74 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: Hell was kind of like towards your end of the 75 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: year calendar at the Arena, and it was a couple 76 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: of years in the row that they would run this. 77 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: It's just just something to spice it up for the fans, 78 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: make it look special because it's around the Christmas time 79 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: and end of the year. Yeah it was. I mean, 80 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: if you remember we had November to remember, we had 81 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: heat wave in the summertime, holiday, Hell, it was near 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Christmas time. It was just the season. I guess Paul 83 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: would just do these shows according to what the season was. 84 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: But I don't remember what I did on this show. Yeah, 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: I don't remember which match this is. I have to 86 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: listen to the full clip, but usually, especially if it 87 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: was after something like November, to remember, it would feature 88 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: some form of a rematch, Okay, but not like so 89 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: let's say November. Remember ninety six is Shane and Brian Levers, 90 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 1: Terry Funk and Tommy Dreamer. I believe the December show 91 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: was like a modified version of that match with no chunk. Okay, Well, 92 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: whatever it was, I'm sure it's it's wonderful and I'm 93 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: sure you'll enjoy listening to my recap of it because 94 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: when we shot this episode or filmed this episode, I 95 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: knew what I was talking about, and three years later, 96 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: I have no idea. That's right, But we are very 97 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: very again right now, so I can relive exactly everybody. 98 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: She likes to be surprised folks, so that's why I 99 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: surprised her. I never know anything. On Patreon, we have 100 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: a ton of back content. 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I thought about that 138 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: on the last one. I'm gonna sit in here today 139 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: with Francine to talk about ECW holiday hell shows from 140 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: way back in the day. But before we get into that, 141 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: first we'll say hello to Franceneho is just taking a 142 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: sip of drink and just finish the banana. Hi, Francine, 143 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: that was my lunch water. Yeah, very nice, hydrated and fulfilled. 144 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: But I also want to make a quick announcement in 145 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: regards to the content here for Patreon. We're gonna be 146 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: adding one show in the new year. We're gonna wait 147 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: till the new year, though, so hold your horses. We're 148 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna be talking more about specifically ECW, and I think 149 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: covering anything having to do with ECW, not just Francene, 150 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: but ECW as a whole, maybe something that popped up 151 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: a moment, a match, a card, something just a week. 152 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: Get specifically talk about that topic because I know a 153 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: lot of people want to talk more about ECW just 154 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: because they love ECW. And we'll leave this open to 155 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: talk about whatever. Like last week we talked about the 156 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: Sam Man and the Restle Caide fiasco. You know, other 157 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: times we've talked about more general things. So that show 158 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 1: will add a different or secondary Patreon show specifically about ECW. 159 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: We're not going to divert ECW only, and that's coming 160 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. That's all. You're working me too much, Chad, 161 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. If you give me an extra twenty minutes 162 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: every time we record, then you will be set to go. Okay, 163 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: I can do that, but anything for the Patreon family, 164 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: that's right. I want you guys to stay, So we 165 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: want to give you extra content when we can. And 166 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: if there's anything you want us to talk about, leave it, 167 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: give it on the what do we do? We have 168 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: a message board or you can comment under and I 169 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: think you can kind of do both things. You can 170 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: either send a message on the Patreon message portal, or 171 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: you can comment underneath a video and just tell us 172 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: what it is that you want to hear or see 173 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: or whatever. Because I think this is a you know, 174 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: even in the podcast world, this is a market that 175 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: really hasn't kind of been like touched on. And I 176 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: know with you, I mean, you were there for so long, 177 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: you saw so much of it. It's cool to to 178 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: kind of shoot things out. You see what you we live. 179 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: But also I mean there's a couple of years that 180 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: you weren't there that maybe I could send you some 181 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: clips and we can talk about something that happened even 182 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: before you got there, because this will be an ECW retrospective, 183 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: and I just think that'll be a cool little thing 184 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: to day. Yeah, these wonderful folks, the early Eastern days 185 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: are Yeah, we're talking like, you know, Jimmy Snooka versus 186 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Don Morocco before I didn't get there the late ninety three, 187 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: so anything before then. I'm not like prevy too. I've 188 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: had a lot of recent nineties nostalgia, like a lot, 189 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: I really you know, I mean, I was you know, 190 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I was younger. It was early teen in the early 191 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: or preteen, early nineties, and there was just so much 192 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: stuff that like, looking back, I wish I either like 193 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: knew about or saw And like, I get nostalgic for 194 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: the eighties a lot, because I was a wee whipper 195 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: snapper at the time. But I don't know some about 196 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: the nineties lately. I almost wish like I was born 197 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: five years earlier, so I could have gotten in on 198 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: some of those some of those cool trends and things. 199 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, I I tell me, well, no, 200 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: I often wonder if I was born later, would my 201 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: path have led me to wrestling or would it be 202 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: somewhere else, Because I mean, you have to remember I 203 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: was a Philly girl, right and ECW was based out 204 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia, and that's you know, I just called that 205 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: number and that's the way I got in. But nowadays 206 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: you don't do that, you know. It's like, I mean, 207 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: unless I really wanted to do it and did what 208 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: like Salida or a Leasha show up at these indies 209 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: shows and hope somebody recognizes me. Like, I don't know 210 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: if I would have did that back then or now 211 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: if I was twenty years old. I guess you really 212 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: have to have a passion for it, you know. I 213 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: was just trying to transition jobs because I thought wrestling 214 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: looked cool and it was something that you know what 215 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Like it wasn't something I grew up really 216 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: wanting to do. Right. But I always say to myself, Gosh, 217 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: I like today you can't just pick up a phone 218 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: and make a call and meet somebody and go down 219 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: and train and hope that they like you. Like it's 220 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: different like the performance center. You have to get it, 221 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: like it's a whole different thing now, you know. So 222 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. I don't know if I'd 223 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: be in the business if I was twenty in twenty nineteen. Like, 224 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: it's something I think about. You know, it's weird about that. 225 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: And maybe because people in this day and age think 226 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: about so when they broke in, they might not necessarily 227 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: have broken in the way you did of that same thing. 228 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: They might have had to go through a wrestling school 229 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: and call them I did. I'm talking about like the 230 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: I know what you're talking I meaning like, like let's 231 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: just say like like the performance center, right, I'm talking 232 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: about even guys that broken ten years ago, if they're 233 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: teaching at a school, they only know how to go 234 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: through like that set up. Do you know what I'm 235 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: trying to say? Like it's you continue, I'm watching what 236 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: I want to say, you continue? Get me back up there, 237 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: I think, I I mean, I might be wrong, but 238 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: don't you have to like have be invited to the 239 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: performance center and get it. It's a whole different Yeah, right, 240 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: it's a whole Right, That's what I'm trying to say. 241 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. Right. So for me, like I 242 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: watched it on TV. I thought it looked cool. I 243 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: picked up the phone. I went and Todd Gordon and 244 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: thank god I had talent, which I didn't know I 245 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: had because I was never an actress or anything. But 246 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: I just went there and I worked and they liked 247 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: what they saw and I got a contract. Yeah you 248 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, uh, but it's not as 249 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: simple as that, That's what I'm trying to Yeah, but 250 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: I did have to go through the wrestling school, but 251 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't like I had to like audition to get 252 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: you got an audition now, I mean you got to 253 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: Basically it's so different, right, And I'm saying that people 254 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: who train under that model now when they if they 255 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: want to become a trainer and say fifteen years, that's 256 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: all they know. They don't know the actual like the 257 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: grit side of it and like the you know, oh, 258 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: I know, taking a chance or like an Alisha or 259 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: Selena go into a show and what it's you know, 260 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a different world. And I tell you what, 261 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: the way I was trained is not the way that 262 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: these girls are trained. So if I would never do 263 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: it now because I'm too old, But if I went 264 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: into the ring now and you know, showed them what 265 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: I would they would be like, we don't do that 266 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: here because it's a whole different world over there, you 267 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's just a different concept. 268 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: But were all these other little things that they all 269 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: adapt that model? Now, yes, it's all that everybody's picking 270 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: up on that model. Well, yeah, well that's we can 271 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: go off on another change. I'm I want to focus 272 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: on the holiday hell things. I want to get people 273 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: a preview of what we'll talk about on that ECW 274 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: extra show. So ECW Holiday Health it was an annual event. 275 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: It was a ninety three through two thousand and one thing. 276 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: We'll go through a couple of the cards, a couple 277 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: of the matches. But you remember any of these holiday 278 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: health shows and kind of like, you know, was that 279 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: like a wrap up towards the end of the year 280 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: kind of thing? Yeah? Yeah, you know, me with my memory, 281 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: it's not very good. I remember the name. I couldn't 282 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: tell you where where we wrestled. I think it was 283 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: New York most of the time. Yes, okay, so I 284 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: know that. I don't know if it was the Elks 285 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: Lodge or somewhere else, but yeah, it was. It was 286 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: the It was the end of the year for us, 287 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, and because we had November to remember and 288 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: then it would go into holiday hell, and then we 289 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: would start a new year. But I could honestly, I 290 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: can't tell you what I did on any of the shows. 291 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, but yeah, it's just it was. 292 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,239 Speaker 1: It was basically either the week before or days after Christmas. 293 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I know specifically there's some that you 294 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: know that you've definitely seen clips of if you've watched 295 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, old DCW programming. Uh, and just scanning through 296 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: the list, I mean, I'm trying to I want to 297 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: just go. I want to stop by the first one 298 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: just to tell you, like what was on here, because 299 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: let me see here, there's an early Shane and Tommy 300 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: singles match from nineteen ninety three. It was called the 301 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: body Count. But this one was actually in Philly, so 302 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: it was before they even moved to New York, because 303 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: I believe, I don't know if it was it was, Oh, 304 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: is that the Lost Battalion Hall? So it was it 305 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: was Queens Rego Park. Let me just see here. I'm 306 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: gonna try and find some highlights quickly. Yeah, that was 307 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: that was before I was even in the locker room. 308 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: I started training like at the end of the year 309 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: in ninety three. So, so I see you here in 310 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: ninety five, but I'm just going back to ninety four. 311 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I want to see if you pop up on this 312 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: one at all. No, I won't. You want to be 313 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: ninety four even end of the year. Okay, all right, 314 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: So your first So your first appearance at Holiday Hell 315 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: in the corner of the Pitbulls as they took on 316 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: the Eliminators in a tag team match. Yeah, so nineteen five, 317 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: it's the end of ninety five in early ninety six. 318 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: It's right before Shane came back. I think this is 319 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: actually the last group of shows that Shane came back, 320 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: and it was right before mc foley left. So that's 321 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: why it's kind of a transition time in ECW because 322 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: Foley's about to leave, Shane's about to come back. Anything, 323 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: Am I toggling anything for you? Thinking thinking back in 324 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: the old dream machine? No, because well, number one, I 325 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: didn't know Shane was coming back. I'm gonna be honest. 326 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about Shane Douglas at all before 327 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: I met him. I really didn't. I wasn't an avid 328 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: wrestling fan, and I'm embarrassed to say this because like, 329 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: back then, I really should have did my homework before 330 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,239 Speaker 1: I dared to set foot in the ring. But I 331 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: never went back and watched old stuff. So a lot 332 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: of the people I didn't know who they were. And 333 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: then once I started working, I'm like, okay, I need 334 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: to because and remember this too, the internet wasn't as 335 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: friendly back then. I couldn't just pull up certain things, 336 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: and there were no smartphones around and this and that, 337 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: so I was meeting a lot of legends that I 338 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: didn't even know what they did, Like, I didn't know 339 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: how important they were. So when I met Shane, I 340 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: knew that like he had worked with Sherry before before me, 341 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: because I was such a fan of Sherry, right, was 342 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: a fan of Shane. I was a fan of Sherry. 343 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: But you know, once I heard that him and I 344 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: were going to be paired up together, I did some 345 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: homework and some research and wah, yeah that you know, 346 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: you had to, But I wasn't a wrestling fan growing up, 347 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: so my knowledge was very very minimal. Well, so Shane 348 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: comes back, and that's obviously, you know, the catalyst for 349 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: what would be that year, because the next year you're 350 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: teaming now with the old franchise. Oh, taking on Buell 351 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: and Tommy Dreamer. I know on a match that you 352 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: guys would have quite often, but again, this one is 353 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: on the same night that Raven beats the Salmon in 354 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: the barber Ye match for the world title. Well all 355 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: I all I know is Brian Lee was so adamant 356 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: about taking me with him. He would tell me all 357 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: the time, you're coming with me, You're coming with me. 358 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: So I always thought I was going with Brian Lee 359 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: to the point where I was gonna buy chaps, okay, 360 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: like because I always tried, Like with Stevie, I had 361 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: the half shorts and the shirt, and I tried to 362 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: match the person I was with Pipples. I had to 363 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: wear the god awful vinyl or whatever the hell it was, 364 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: which I hate it with a passion. And then I 365 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: remember Paul calling me and just saying, you know who 366 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm putting you with, right, And I was like, yeah, 367 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: Brian Lee, who I love? You know, Brian's great, And 368 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: He's like, who the hell told you that? And I said, well, 369 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: Brian Lee. He goes, Brian Lee doesn't know anything. You're 370 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: gonna go with the franchise and I was like what 371 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: So I didn't even know what was happening. It was 372 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: just all new to me. So they I don't know 373 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: if Shane knew before that, but there was this place 374 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: all along to put us together. Interesting. Yeah, I didn't know. 375 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: I had no clue. And then we were practically married 376 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: to Tommy and Bulah for like the three and a 377 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: half years, you know. And I told you before, if 378 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: Shane never left and Teresa never left, we probably would 379 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: have worked with them until two thousand and one because 380 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: the four of us had incredible chemistry and just we 381 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: all four of us enjoyed working together so much. It 382 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: was so easy. It was just so easy. And it 383 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: was when I would get to work and see that 384 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: I was working with them, I was like night off, 385 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: so so fun, you know, like I loved it, loved it. 386 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: So some of my favorite times were working with those two. 387 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I actually, you know, I 388 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: botched a little something there. Actually after ninety six, there 389 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: wasn't another help till two thousand. Yeah, you know, I 390 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: remember them not promoting it for a while, but I 391 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: didn't know how many years we skipped. But this is 392 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: like looking back at those ninety five. See, my favorite 393 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: era of ECW was ninety five ninety six, So when 394 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: we'd even do the retrospectors, there's going to be a 395 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: little heavy emphasis on those because I personally love those 396 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: shows because that's around the time I first discovered it 397 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: was like mid ninety five. But jumping ahead to two thousand, 398 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's a completely different group of people. 399 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: So that's a great question. So the difference between the 400 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 1: end of ECW guys in kind of the middle was there? 401 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: I know the camaraderie was always very strong, but did 402 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: you feel any difference between the maybe the the elder 403 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: statesman of the ECW originals and in the later half 404 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: the people were some people were pissed when people would leave. 405 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: I never like resent it anybody leaving, Like you had 406 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: to do what was best for your family and if 407 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: you were taking another job with more money, like go ahead. 408 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: When Shane left, you know, it upset me because we 409 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: were such a good team. So in the back of 410 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: my mind, I'm like, oh my god, what is going 411 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: to happen to? Like who am I going to go with? 412 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I wasn't really sure. 413 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: But the great thing is when somebody left, there was 414 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: always somebody to move up and take that spot, you know, 415 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: because Paul was just grooming the younger kids who maybe 416 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: were opening act. Now they're going to move the mid card. 417 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: Mid card is going to get a chance to shine 418 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: and maybe semi or main event or whatever. So you know, 419 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: Paul knew what he was doing. There were always people 420 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: outside trying to get in. There was always you know, 421 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: people indie guys waiting on the steps with their gear bags, 422 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, because we used to have like an open 423 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: tryout and they would work with the boys and a 424 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: lot of them would leave crying, which was horrible to see. 425 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: I hated it, but you know there there. When people left, 426 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: it just opened up a spot for one of the 427 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: younger guys to move up. So you know, it's a 428 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: completely different group, yeah, you know. I mean that's when 429 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: you have your Danny Dorian Roadkills in there, Chili Willie, 430 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: who I love. Chili Willy is awesome, easy money, you know. 431 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: And then you got guys that moved on into different spots. 432 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: You know, C. W Anderson sends and you know it's 433 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: the even nova on his own. I mean like that, 434 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of changes. Well, I hate when people 435 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: say we started to lack the lack of star power, 436 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: and it's just like creating new stars exactly. That's what 437 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: Paul did. You know. It was like there were a 438 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: couple of people in the beginning that already had names, 439 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: but most of us were We weren't known anywhere, right, 440 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, and he made us these larger than life figures. 441 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: I feel, you know, in my opinion, I think the 442 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: company left its footprint on the business. Oh yeah, absolutely, 443 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, And I hate what we're referred to as 444 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: this little indie company. We weren't an indie company. You know, 445 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: there's a difference. We had television, we had pay per views. 446 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: There's just poor money management. Yeah, you were the numbers. 447 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: We were the number three out of the big three, 448 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: but on the heels of two and one the whole time, 449 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: and each company made their changes because of that. Yeah, 450 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: we were. We were at the at the heels of 451 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: WCW for sure. For sure. I mean there was a 452 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: point when we were getting numbers. At least I was 453 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: told that we were out drawing them at house shows. 454 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: Oh I believe that at one point, and we were 455 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: just like yeah, so like they started Channing were number three. 456 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: As a joke, we're number two. We're number two, you 457 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean, just being silly, But we all 458 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: worked very hard, no matter if there was ten people 459 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: or a million people, we just worked hard and gave 460 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: it one hundred percent every show and just wanted to 461 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: make it a good experience for everyone who paid for 462 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: a ticket. Yeah, and that night main eventing in the 463 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: corner of just incredible against Steve Carino and the Sandman. 464 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: So two thousand, that's in two thousands, So you made 465 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: your impact. You know, you're in the three prominent matches 466 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: on three of these shows, So you made you mark 467 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: on ECW Holiday Hell. And I love little theme shows 468 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: like that, you know, whether it's like a season's beatings 469 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: or you know the Holiday Elt or I forget what, 470 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: oh god, I think what did the WWF call it? 471 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: They had another one that was kind of like in 472 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: the same vein. I just always love those theme shows 473 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: because when they would be promoted, they'd have the cool 474 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: graphics with it, everything would be catered to, you know, 475 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: whatever the holidy was. I just did little little things 476 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: from a production standpoint that I that I absolutely love. 477 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, just talking about that you know, this is 478 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: what we'll cover on the ECW extra. But I'm going 479 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: to get Francine the footage of what we're talking about 480 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: so you can see it. Shoot it at me. Do 481 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: you know? Really quick to add that I was studying 482 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: the production end when I worked there. I've heard you 483 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: say that that's intriguing to me. Yes, it's an interesting 484 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: world and it's so different from what you were probably 485 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: learning then to now, unbelievable. First of all, you know 486 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: rob a phone. We were in Ron's parents' house, a 487 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: den which is probably as big as some Boddy's bathroom, 488 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: a large bathroom, but a bathroom, a narrow, large bathroom, 489 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: and all the equipment was there. So I would go 490 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: up on like Mondays and watch Paul because I said, Paul, 491 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: I want to learn. I want to know what you're 492 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: doing because I can't be in front of the camera 493 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: my whole life. Maybe someday i'll be behind the camera. 494 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: And I'm intrigued. And he said, well, you're welcome to calm. 495 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: So I'd drive up to New York and I'd sit 496 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: there and i'd watch him at it the show. And 497 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: I did that several times, several times, and I remember 498 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: they would let me sleep on the couch, and so 499 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: you're waking up in the morning, and sometimes we would 500 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: have to film on airs at like six am because 501 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: Joey Styles would come in before he went to work, 502 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: so I'd be up at like five point thirty trying 503 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: to get me And a lot of times that's why 504 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: I have sunglasses on in these promos, because it was 505 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: so freaking early in the morning and I didn't feel 506 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: like doing my face at that time. But I'd sleep 507 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: on the couch and you here, Franccene, wake up because 508 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: they're Italian, wake up. And I'd look up and there's 509 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: the mom. You want some breakfast. I'm okay, you know 510 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: it's fine thirty where I'm dying. They always made us food. 511 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: They were always welcoming and gracious. We would shoot in 512 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: the basement. There was the banner that you always saw. 513 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: It was downstairs in the basement. The mom sometimes would 514 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 1: be ironing, yeah, and we'd be like on the other end. 515 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: If you watch the documentary Beyond the Mat, you can 516 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: see that. But yeah, I was so intrigued by how 517 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: Paul put that show together, and I just wanted to learn. 518 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: So there's a little timboit for you. I guess. Yeah, 519 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: that's very cool. I've been meaning to ask you about 520 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: that since they heard you say that in something I 521 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: was I was checking out. So yeah, we'll wrap it 522 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: up here. But again, we will add this show in 523 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It's probably gonna be about the same duration. 524 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: You know, you're fifteen twenty minutes, but it's just a 525 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: little extra, just a little something. But we're gonna have 526 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: Francine review whatever we're gonna talk about. And that's not 527 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: just because you can't remember. That's just because I want 528 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: you to actually see things because I wanted to toggle 529 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: the memory, so don't so don't think I'm now losing 530 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: faith in your memory skills. Thirteen weeks. Oh god. Yeah. 531 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: And if there's something that you guys want to see, 532 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: or an incident that happened that you're curious about, leave it, 533 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: leave a comment for us and we'll look into it 534 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: for you and maybe we'll talk about it on a 535 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: future episode. Yep, absolutely all right. So for the Queen 536 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: of Extreme Francine, this is the old chadst And as 537 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: we will sign off here for another week, I will 538 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: catch you on the flip side