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Speaker 1: Lovely book Club.

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Speaker 2: Foo.

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Speaker 1: Sure this is a Miss Piggy.

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Speaker 3: You just see this.

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Speaker 1: CEO of High Hurt Bob. I'm sure he's expecting me.

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Speaker 3: I'm his three o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Let me just call in right now if you can

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Speaker 4: have a seat right there on the couch there, missus peg,

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Speaker 4: that's a Piggy.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I would take your Lotte.

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Speaker 4: There is a there's some instant coffee in the cupboard.

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Speaker 5: What is this trouf was born?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Bob, Yeah, I've got Piggy here. Say here for

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Speaker 4: a meeting. Okay, yeah, you can go right on in,

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Speaker 4: Miss pig.

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Speaker 1: Mercy and the Lotte please.

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Speaker 4: Miss Piggy, Bob Pittman, Bob, it's.

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Speaker 3: Such a poo leisure to meet you.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: As CEO of iHeart, I think I can safely say

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Speaker 4: you are the first pig that I've ever had in

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Speaker 4: my office.

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Speaker 1: As it should be.

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Speaker 4: And I've met Harvey Weinstein.

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Speaker 3: You know, I heard through the great Vine of Hollywood

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Speaker 3: that you were.

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Speaker 5: Dying for me to have a show.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, Miss Piggy, podcasts are so hot right now.

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Speaker 4: They are the future. You know, iHeart reaches over one

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Speaker 4: and twenty percent of Americans every single week and from

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Speaker 4: their living rooms to their cars.

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Speaker 3: Now, I was thinking to show basically it's a lot

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Speaker 3: about me and my shopping habits, and I interviewed designers

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Speaker 3: like Vivy and Westwood, and maybe I have started just

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Speaker 3: a Parker on But then it's mostly about me interviewing

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Speaker 3: eligible frogs and talking to other amazing, successful sexy men

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Speaker 3: like yourself.

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Speaker 4: Miss Piggy. I think that's sounds super fun. Now, I

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Speaker 4: just want to stop you right there for a second.

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Speaker 4: We hear at iHeart. We really try to appeal to

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Speaker 4: as universal of an audience as possible, so I wonder

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Speaker 4: if that idea might be a little bit niche maybe

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Speaker 4: something a little more universal.

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Speaker 1: Everyone loves Piggy, of.

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Speaker 4: Course, everyone does love Piggy. But I do think that

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Speaker 4: maybe the frog angle and the pig angle might be

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Speaker 4: a little hard because so many of our listeners are human.

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Speaker 3: What you're saying, the human man is not attracted to

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Speaker 3: Miss Piggy. I'll let you know I've been with the

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Speaker 3: best of them, George Clooney, Brad.

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Speaker 6: Pitch to me, shut on me.

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Speaker 1: They've already said yes.

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Speaker 6: In fact, they're in my DMS.

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Speaker 5: They're begging me, begging me.

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Speaker 4: No, those would be great guests to have on your show.

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Speaker 3: I've already made a contract myself for me, typed it up.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of this?

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Speaker 5: And this number?

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Speaker 4: Okay, ten thousand dollars a year? Wow?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, Bob, I would hate to do this, but

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Speaker 3: I saw you leaving Mammo Fuku having the bo Sam

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Speaker 3: with Gonzo, and I will go to pick Weekly.

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Speaker 5: You sign my country.

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Speaker 4: I was supposed to be a secret Mondev. Nobody's supposed

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Speaker 4: to know about me and Gonzo's dinners.

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Speaker 3: I would even want to know what you were discussing

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Speaker 3: Gonzo's dang to me.

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Speaker 4: You know what, miss Piggy, you know, I think, actually

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Speaker 4: that sounds like a great idea. Frogs then the whole thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's a great, great, great podcast.

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Speaker 5: I've shut it and we can make a deal.

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Speaker 1: Kistaff.

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Speaker 4: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends.

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Speaker 4: You've filthy whrse, your husband's gone, and we've got books

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Speaker 4: and a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 5: It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure it's memoirs. Martini, CLEVELYO Club read it while

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Speaker 4: it's hot. Clevely Club I'll.

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Speaker 5: Tell your secrets.

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Speaker 4: We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are a loud.

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Speaker 5: Say it loud and pounds.

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Speaker 1: Celet book Club buzz me in.

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Speaker 5: I brought the queer.

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Speaker 4: Foe best friend that kills me every time.

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Speaker 5: It will be hard not to do. The voices, the voice.

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Speaker 5: What we're calling the voice, this entire arms, the voice

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Speaker 5: just a few minutes. Far want to check in, Hey.

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Speaker 4: Best friend, Hey, one of my best friends in the

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Speaker 4: whole world. Have you been this past week? It's been

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Speaker 4: a crazy It's been a crazy week. Fashion Week New

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Speaker 4: York is alive. It's electric going on. So what shows

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Speaker 4: have you been to?

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Speaker 5: So a ton triple mail XL. I went to the

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Speaker 5: Dockers Show. I walked on the Dockers Show.

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Speaker 4: I saw you at a men's warehouse closing actually.

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Speaker 5: The closing show. It was a dinner. Men's warehouse had

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Speaker 5: a super intimate dinner catered by Applebee's ex lover boy,

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Speaker 5: and I just, yeah, I have.

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Speaker 4: Any na shrubs for this soberful?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was imitation Scotch with shrubs.

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Speaker 4: Anything grosser?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? What shows have you watched?

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Speaker 4: It? Well? So I went to the Gauntlet Cheng show.

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Speaker 5: I went to that show once two years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's one of those things where I just I'm

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Speaker 4: like your grandfather, I'm grandfathered in and they need bodies. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And it was like this thing where it was like

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Speaker 4: obviously I always like standing, and then like there was like

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Speaker 4: like this girl like ask to be like, oh, do

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Speaker 4: you have a seat, like and then she's like, no,

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Speaker 4: And then I'm like, so, yeah, the last name. And

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, totally absolutely, I love. I love

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Speaker 5: Sitting is so over it being kills no.

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Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, city is literally bad for

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Speaker 4: your health. It's the new smoking. And when you're sitting,

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Speaker 4: you're not seeing like the full outfit as much. You're

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Speaker 5: Oh, it's almost it's perverted.

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Speaker 4: And also when you're standing you can turn around, so

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Speaker 4: I was actually kind of in the middle. There was

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Speaker 4: So actually huge hack if you're going to go to

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Speaker 4: a fashion show stand.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, the clothes were amazing two or to four. I'm

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Speaker 5: Okay, So anything going on your mood board?

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Speaker 5: very gaussy of the boots.

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Speaker 4: You were like wow, but you were like, I don't

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Speaker 5: I think it's like people would be probably too turned on.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, fashion Week is amazing and it's so funny, like

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Speaker 5: they're going to my favorite store, Nord Storm, And the

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Speaker 4: Oh god, that's so sad. Yeah, it's like reminds me

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Speaker 4: of my friend Lily, who actually didn't get into a

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Speaker 5: That's a ghost story. Maybe save that for the vik

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Speaker 5: for the VI.

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Speaker 1: Scary chose Halloween naboo.

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Speaker 5: Okay, we should talk about the biggest fashion icon in

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Speaker 4: She truly is a ground breaking.

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Speaker 5: Groundbreakings, ageless singer, entrepreneur, feminist, eternal fiance say.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, although now is single right since twenty fifteen allegedly.

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Speaker 5: But girl, she invented Carrie. She invented like all women.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, she literally invented all women. She invented like ironic

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Speaker 5: Being like I'm ridiculous and I need diamonds and chanel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she invented like those Jonathan Nadler pill pillows.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's like, can I get valume please?

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Speaker 4: She is our first non human subject.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is going to be an interspecies pod. She

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Speaker 5: is our first puppet. Yeah, this is huge. She's our

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Speaker 5: first pig.

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Speaker 4: She's all foam and no bullshit, ladies and gentlemen, misss Piggy.

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Speaker 1: And her book The Diva Code.

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Speaker 5: Miss Peggy on Life, Love and tend.

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Speaker 4: Theatic Things Men crossed out Frogs too.

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Speaker 5: This is also, you know, one of her many books.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's got several in the stable. How do we

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I bought this for my mom

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Speaker 5: I actually didn't have it lying around that I reordered.

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Speaker 4: Her well trodden copy.

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Speaker 5: also early two thousands, Piggy.

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Speaker 4: It's two thousand and nine, which you really start to

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Speaker 5: going for like on eBay, I think like ninety.

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Speaker 4: Felt books, right, because this was giving seven thirty two

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Speaker 5: She has her strained hair and she has been it's.

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Speaker 4: Bangs with this like two thousands bang straightened hair. It's

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Speaker 4: a few years, do you know what I mean? And

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Speaker 4: you could also face framing.

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Speaker 5: It's not a Rachel because she is bangs, but like Rachel,

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Speaker 4: I watched that insane video that's like huge, like YouTube

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Speaker 4: Nerd that you sent.

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Speaker 1: Me, was like welcome to Dan's.

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Speaker 4: Annie, and he's like surrounded by like so many Boba

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Speaker 4: full history of him speaking, which was really interesting. But

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Speaker 4: because she was doing way more. She was almost like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like, well was first time with the cover and

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Speaker 4: Yeah we love her. Yeah, they just like you have

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Speaker 4: And you're like, wait, so I'm lost. I'm actually lost now.

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Speaker 4: No, And what did she name it?

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Speaker 5: I'm not a pig. And it's like crazy. I mean,

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Speaker 4: But you know, obviously it worked out in Miss Piggy's

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Speaker 5: And in this book is talking about blackberries and BC

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Speaker 5: beg right, Like if she was Piggy Lee, it would

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Speaker 4: She would have ever gotten to be the huge star

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Speaker 4: Well, funny thing about Miss Piggy is she like wants

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Speaker 5: But the mold.

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Speaker 4: it's like I'm thinking, just back in seventies Land Share

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Speaker 5: Canonically, the straight man was sonny sunny and Share like

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No, he's always gaslighting Piggy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like this like manipulative indie cook.

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Speaker 4: Our jobs are fucking crazy with the amount of research

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Speaker 5: Gets mugged, and she's chasing him in the park.

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Speaker 5: That's why it is all about where she's like I

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Speaker 4: Yes, Hug, She's she's doing that character right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: She's satirizing that, and like cat loves her boyfriend, That's

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Speaker 5: desire was like really trendy to be like how can

442
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Speaker 5: I change a man? You know, like give the man

443
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Speaker 5: a makeover, Like let's put him in an HERMANI suit.

444
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 5: And you know this is such an example, and you

445
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 5: know she's basically listing all these situations that frogs do

446
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Speaker 5: and how you can fix it.

447
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: Forty he's fashion changed one word green. It's all he

448
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 3: wears formal and former casual casual chic urban cheek suburban

449
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: she informal casual sub Saharan chic. No matter the occasion,

450
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 3: it's always the same green outfit.

451
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Speaker 1: What voo need to do?

452
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 5: Look on the bright side.

453
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 3: If he's naturally green, this essentially means he's not wearing anything.

454
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 5: So you know, it's like she's mad that he has

455
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 5: bad style.

456
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 4: But then she's being like, isn't it hot that he's naked? Literally,

457
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 4: which is so this is very nineties of like because

458
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 4: like when did that kind of birthday card culture come

459
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Speaker 4: out of just being like women in sert shoes here,

460
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 4: like men they're good for nothing. My body's a temple,

461
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 4: and like services are not open today, but all I

462
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: want is a hot man with like a chainsaw.

463
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 5: And like just being so like hmm yeah, chocolate, need

464
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 5: it now, like and then all man cards are so

465
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: which she talks about here is very like, uh, sorry,

466
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 5: I'm always a husband glued to my remote. Yeah, I'll

467
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Speaker 5: take you out to dinner, like men hate restaurants and

468
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 5: like all they do is love watching TV, and now

469
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 5: like men are addicted to restaurants.

470
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: Exactly, and now women actually are so into gadgets and

471
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: they're fit bit. Okay wait, the part where she's like

472
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Speaker 4: he's two into gadgets is so yes, I'm gonna try

473
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 4: and do a pick impression. It's not Gonnass, he's gauds.

474
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: I can't do it. Mine's too Yoda.

475
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 5: Let's do the exercise that they did, which.

476
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 4: Is ironic because Frank Oz does miss Piggy and Yoda. Yeah,

477
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 4: he's such a genius because it's like, how does he

478
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 4: do both? They're so different. They are like similar, but

479
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 4: they are so different, and.

480
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 5: Yet he's also directed Father of the Bride. Yeah, just

481
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Speaker 5: like what a talented man.

482
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Speaker 4: You know, are still alive?

483
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

484
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 4: Wait, okay, wait, sidebar. Do you know how Jim Hanson died?

485
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 4: Really dark, it's really random and scary. He literally got

486
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Speaker 4: strep throat what Yeah, and he was like fifty two,

487
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: like he was completely fine, in totally good health, and

488
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 4: then like he was like, I have a sore throat,

489
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Speaker 4: but I think I'm fine. And he was like negotiena

490
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Speaker 4: deal with Disney at the time, like she didn't have

491
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Speaker 4: a lot of people said they thought he had aids Lily,

492
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Speaker 4: and it was the rumor that his whole goal had

493
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: to dispel at the time because people like you Italian

494
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 4: Americans were being so big at it.

495
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Speaker 5: I don't know, he likes puppet and talking and voices.

496
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Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm a married.

497
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 5: Man and I don't play with puppets.

498
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Speaker 4: Okay, No, it was not. It's it was randomly strapped

499
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Speaker 4: and then like it turned to pneumonia, like really quickly,

500
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Speaker 4: and he was just like thought he was fine. Them

501
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: like two days later he was coughing up blood. Goes

502
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 4: to like Cedars Sinai or whatever, and they like gave

503
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 4: him antibiotics. They killed the infection, but it was like

504
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 4: too late. There were so many abscesses and he just

505
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: like so.

506
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Speaker 5: Stop And it's not funny. I'm just saying. The homophobia

507
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Speaker 5: at the time.

508
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Speaker 4: Was also I think he was straight.

509
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 5: He had a wife, he was straight.

510
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 4: Okay, and who knows what he did in his free time.

511
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 4: And it's actually not my business.

512
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Speaker 5: It's none of my business.

513
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: I'm saying. According to Wikipedia, it was strapped throat, so

514
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 4: like if your throat is sore, basically you're gonna die

515
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 4: and go to the hospital immediately. Okay. Anyways, yes, Francas

516
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Speaker 4: is amazing, but.

517
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 5: But I was skidding before you the guy, let's do

518
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 5: this exercise before you read this, just for the guy

519
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 5: who took over for Frank Auz was like Emma Brett.

520
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 5: He opens up his voice, biggering, just kind of.

521
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 4: Like kind of the cadence of it. He scrolls a

522
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Speaker 4: tip stirs.

523
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Speaker 3: If he dos a screen a Britteryxnors and here's the

524
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Speaker 3: absolute ladies and electronics, he will just have to run

525
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: out and get one. And if he really doesn't particularly

526
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: want it, need it or what it does, what you

527
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 3: need to do. Let him have his toys, but match

528
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 3: him tour for tour. If he gets another PDA or GPS,

529
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Speaker 3: make sure you nap another d k n Y a

530
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Speaker 3: couple of pcpgs with the field c ks thrown in

531
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Speaker 3: for good measure.

532
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Speaker 5: That was amazing. You got the to and it's also

533
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: going between the soft one where she's been there, yeah

534
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 5: me and then you.

535
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 4: Go I was like pushing it a little too, it's

536
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: the softer one.

537
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 5: But then she goes in gives me the roles being

538
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 5: like also just like men are so obsessed with their GPS,

539
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 5: which at first I was like, haha, who is, but

540
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 5: then I was remembering my dad like being so proud

541
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 5: to buy like the thickest thickest ips.

542
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Speaker 4: I remember it was like Christmas Day, like two thousand

543
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: and two, my dad getting this huge garment, this brick garment.

544
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 4: He was like, well, this is pretty neat, and it

545
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: like had like such a like calculator screen that could

546
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 4: just like show you and they're just like showing you

547
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 4: nothing basically, and it's like cool. It's like doesn't even

548
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: have Google Maps on it, but they did, like it

549
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: was showing you, like your coordinance. It would just be

550
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 4: like okay, I'm at like thirty four and like.

551
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 5: To put in the directions. It was so like beep,

552
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 5: hard beep.

553
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: Like well. There was also the car one, Yeah, I'm

554
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 4: thinking of the car. My dad had this not just

555
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 4: like a co wor in it, like like literally was

556
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 4: it for the car? Was he just like this thing

557
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 4: you carried around with you to like know where you.

558
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 5: Were a massive ass compass?

559
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he does love to hake no for sure,

560
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 4: and that is useful for him.

561
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 5: Yeah. Do you remember he carried around with him was

562
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 5: like yeah, we actually at thirty two degrees north.

563
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he would be like, well look at the

564
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: actual you'll see the trail that we've taken. We kind

565
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: of veered north here, so he got some joy out

566
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: of that garment.

567
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 5: But he didn't. I bet your mom picked up a

568
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 5: few BCBG.

569
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 4: Oh she did. She was Santa that year.

570
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was shopping for herself.

571
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: Okay. Piggy makes this like acronym joke multiple times in

572
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 4: the book about DK and Y and BCBG and c

573
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: K wait read it because she's going if he gets

574
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: another PDA or GPS, make sure you nab another DK

575
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: and why get it? Letter letters because she's a punster

576
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 4: at the end of the day.

577
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 5: And again she's a comedian and a punster. And I

578
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: was like eighties Piggy, I feel like it was so

579
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 5: Chanel the dk't mind BCPEG. I was like, that's what's

580
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 5: so this two nine.

581
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: I'm more like American sportswear acceptable.

582
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 5: Like the dec whyk I mean the shirt I'm wearing

583
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 5: today is like a Calvin Klein Kermey spoof.

584
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: Where he's in sexy underwear.

585
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, like Calvin's.

586
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 4: He looks like a hot indie guy.

587
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 5: N get it, and like, I get it, not Piggy.

588
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 5: It's also you could compare another comparison Lena Dunham and

589
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 5: Adam O Adam Driver yeah, girls, she's like depressed.

590
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: And he's got like a big mouth. Kermit's got a

591
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 4: big mouth, like a man with a big mouth, and like.

592
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 5: You know, she's Piggy's whole things. She's needy even though she.

593
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: Him to Miss Piggy.

594
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 5: You compared her dear friend, Miss Piggy. She's literally a

595
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 5: fabulous pig. Also, Piggy is actually I'll say it, yes

596
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 5: she is a pig, but she's never like the biggest

597
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 5: I think she is in the eighties and she has

598
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: a wider face and a perm.

599
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, well this is getting back into this insane video.

600
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: We watched about the evolution of her like foam core undercarriage,

601
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: and like the foam she was made with like evolved

602
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: and like got more high tech, and like her skin

603
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: got more beautiful. Like at first she was like actually

604
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 4: creepy exacting so that it's.

605
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 5: Like British people are creepy, and like even the nerdy

606
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: guy was like, it's actually hard to like watch her

607
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: move because the skin is like terrifying.

608
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like super creppy and drapy and like

609
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: falling apart. But then it's like, I don't know, maybe

610
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: that's more realistic and it's like, is she actually like

611
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: pushing unrealistic beauty standards for pigs.

612
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: Well, she definitely gets a snout job. Like you'll see

613
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 5: the snout becomes smaller.

614
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 4: It also becomes like longer and more expressive, right, which

615
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: is like partly for you know, acting purposes, so like

616
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: Frank can make her more excitable and like do more

617
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: comedy with her.

618
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 5: And I feel like her ears were sharper and hear

619
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 5: the like a little more.

620
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 4: Like I wonder if you like affected like state fair piggery,

621
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: Like if like the pigs that the like Wisconsin State

622
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: Fair in the seventies were actually kind of like less sassy,

623
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 4: less sassy, less makeup, like less smooth skin, and now

624
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 4: they're like trying to buff them and make them like

625
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: so much more miss piggy.

626
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 5: I mean there are those like little pig runs that

627
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 5: I've seen at state fairs where they name all the

628
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 5: pigs and it's like.

629
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 4: Oh wait, we did see that. Yeah, that was like

630
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: the best thing of every seen.

631
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 5: Right, it's being so like Beyonce like pig or whatever,

632
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 5: and that feels does feel affected.

633
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 4: By, right, And that comes back to the joy of femininization,

634
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: And that's where I'm like, there's so much drag overlap here,

635
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: and I.

636
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 5: Think what they real is because when she was first

637
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 5: on her bower Boat show, who's like easy listening, but

638
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: she was more say with me, demure, and then she

639
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: slowly got more sassy yes, and then her final form

640
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 5: of more like the and now and just like right,

641
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 5: it's like always being so diamonds diva. But I think

642
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 5: at first it was like, yes, she was like glamorous,

643
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 5: but she was a little bit like, yeah, I'm a

644
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 5: guy's girl. I'll follow Kermit somewhere like okay Kurmi and

645
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: is like more like her whole thing became like being violent,

646
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: which is I'm obsessed with, like her karate chop.

647
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, hi yi, I know. I was just watching an

648
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 4: episode of The Muppet Shirt with Liberachi as the special guest,

649
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 4: and that's completely insane. And she's doing this like Greek

650
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: restaurant dance number, and there's all these other pigs at

651
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 4: the Greek restaurant and they're all just going Mika nos hoummos,

652
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: and she's wearing this kind of just like almost like

653
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 4: a Venice like Venetian gondola outfit, and she's just like

654
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: pushing random waiters like downstairs and just being like.

655
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm no Greek buddy.

656
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: Kiss me on Tuesday, kiss me onstair.

657
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 4: Where it's like she wants everyone to love her, but

658
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: she also wants to just like hurt. She does right.

659
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 5: And it's actually so like pushing men and kicking them

660
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 5: and like being like you're disgusting, And it's like she

661
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 5: is this girl that like is so like diamonds and

662
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: fabulous because at the end of the day, like her

663
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 5: probably biggest female friend and foe is like Janis, who

664
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 5: is like the Stoner and the Muppets.

665
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 4: She is a guy's girl.

666
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 5: She is a guys girl, which I think why she

667
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 5: is so like high Off.

668
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 4: Well this question where she says what to say when

669
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 4: you feel like fighting, and it's like things you can

670
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: do to start a fight, ask for it?

671
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 5: What does when you feel like fighting? Does this dress

672
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 5: make me look fat? Should I bar these shoes?

673
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: Marked?

674
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 5: If we watch the figures cuting competition?

675
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: Marred?

676
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 5: If I drive the remote? I threw that out again, remote.

677
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: Stuff, remote jokes because men always want the click girl.

678
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 5: I always love to click click click.

679
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: I do feel like I do do this though, and

680
00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 4: I want.

681
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 5: To start I mean It's classic do I look fat?

682
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: If I want to just like be mad at my boyfriend,

683
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 4: I'll just be like, oh so you think you look fat?

684
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 4: And he's like, I literally didn't even say anything.

685
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 5: I said nothing, and you're it's not don't impress me much.

686
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, Okay, well you didn't say anything,

687
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: which means you do think.

688
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 5: I like, yeah, that is like, oh so you don't

689
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 5: want it. You're embarrassed to be with me. Career tip

690
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 5: number one.

691
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,959
Speaker 3: Ambition. Ambition is what drives us marrying wealthy is what

692
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: provides the driver. People who work to live have a job.

693
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: People who lived to work have a career. People who

694
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: have people do have the work for them, haven't made

695
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: if she's not married.

696
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean again, it's the character. It's

697
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: almost like this Paris Hilton book and there are Confessions

698
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: of an Heiress, which is so just like How to

699
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: Be Read book. Yeah. I also wanted to talk about

700
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: identity for a second here, please, Yeah, because in this

701
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: book she refers to herself mostly as a woman and

702
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: not as a pig. Occasionally as a pig, but it's

703
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 4: mostly a woman and there's a lot of just like

704
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: this men do this or let me do this, but

705
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: frogs do this. She talks about frogs more than she

706
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: talks about pigs. Yes, and so she's like often othering

707
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: Kermy as a frog, but in her own mind she

708
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 4: is standing for all women and she is this like

709
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 4: icon of femininity. There's only a couple of points where

710
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: she breaks, like when she talks about the oscars and

711
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 4: she's like, they've only given oscars to humans, which is

712
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 4: possibly speciesism, which is almost like a proto woke joke.

713
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 5: No, and she makes another thing in the interest soudly

714
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 5: about this stuff where she talks about how like her

715
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 5: and Kurmy are like the only interspecies couple.

716
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 4: Yes, that was another joke where she kind of broke

717
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 4: it and she was like, I get it, I'm a pig.

718
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 5: But and she says also in the intro to your part,

719
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 5: she says I will use men and frogs interchangeably, but

720
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: she doesn't say.

721
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: I will use women in pigs inter Yeah.

722
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 5: Because she also doesn't want to call women.

723
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 4: She doesn't want to call a woman.

724
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 5: She's the only pig.

725
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: She's not really a pig's rights activism. No, it's not

726
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: animal rights activism. Yeah, she's basically saying, like, I know

727
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: that a pig is a problem thing for him to be,

728
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: but I also think that like, by doing this joke

729
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: about womanhood, I'm also celebrating womanhood and kind of like

730
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: criticizing and insulting everyone who thinks that like women are

731
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 4: are superficial you know, man haters, man killers, whatever. Because

732
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: she's doing this like goat.

733
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 5: Which also brings back to being her be kind of

734
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 5: a retro drag queen. Yes, it's a little of this

735
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 5: kind of self hate still being like like born this way. Yeah,

736
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 5: like I was born a pig, but I meant for stardom. Yes,

737
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 5: it also is kind of riology.

738
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: Be damned.

739
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 5: I wrote this down, you know, like in the famous

740
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: queer text stone Butcher Blues Yes by Leslie Feinberg, And

741
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 5: it's about how just like you know, you would automatically

742
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 5: just he a butch lesbian back in the day, in

743
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 5: the sixties, just like it was more conversation like you're

744
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 5: a heat.

745
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 4: It was more like stud culture in the South today, exactly.

746
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 5: What's your stud name? And it's like, what's your pig name?

747
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 5: And I think she's being like, yeah, it's fun men frog,

748
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 5: same thing.

749
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: Yes, he might peg. She she's not being like, my

750
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 4: pronouns are pig her.

751
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 5: She's just being like, I'm a pig.

752
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: Obviously obviously I'm a pig, but like, for the purpose

753
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 4: of this conversation, I'm a woman, yes, and like womanhood

754
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: is fluid and beautiful and it's a big.

755
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 5: Tent stone pig blues. That's the theory book we're going

756
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 5: to write about Piggy.

757
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 4: And her as like a transhumanist like allegory collapsing the

758
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 4: boundaries of identity.

759
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: Oh I also this dad, I was like, they're also

760
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: kind of a prototype for just like a Chip and

761
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: Joanna or just like any couple Reno show where it's

762
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 5: like she's so iroll, she's so eyroll and making all these.

763
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 4: Design decisions, and he's being like so doing the like

764
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: construction work.

765
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 5: Right, but he's it's a little more sitting.

766
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: Because he's actually.

767
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 5: Kermi type to this book.

768
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 4: Oh I love that reveal in the middle.

769
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 5: Of the book. Yeah, get the page, so you know

770
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 5: she begins it and she's being still like, oh if

771
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 5: my publisher found a typist for me, because obviously she's

772
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 5: not gonna type.

773
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: So it's supposed to be like ten thousand things that

774
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 4: idiotic frogs do, and then it stops at forty two.

775
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 4: Number forty two. He's a frog who doesn't realize how

776
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: fortunate he is to have a mow and ought.

777
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 1: To be glad.

778
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: I put up with this dot dot dot, and then

779
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: it goes up to dot. Hold on, I'm not typing

780
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: any more of this. I quit, and then it's like

781
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 4: signed K the F, I love K the F. And

782
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 4: then the whole book shifts and it becomes basically more

783
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: just like fridge magnet aphorisms.

784
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's being a little more like.

785
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: If your man does this, yeah, whatevery diva needs to know?

786
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: Too much is never enough. I do love the one

787
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 4: that's a you could lead a horse to water, but

788
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: why would you want to wait?

789
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 5: That's what she gets really. Bethany also, who's another kind

790
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 5: of Peggy.

791
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: Bethany is one hundred percent of Miss Peggy for sure.

792
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 5: Main character, but hilarious, but a business woman like always

793
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 5: engaged for Mary.

794
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: I guess I'll say about Bethany is that I don't

795
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: not necessarily gonna put her on that like faillis satirical

796
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 4: level that maybe like Elena dunnams on that I don't.

797
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: Bethany is deeply unaware of whatever you could accuse her

798
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: of satirizing.

799
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 5: And if she thinks she's aware, like doing her like

800
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: food things, she's still like not.

801
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, She's ultimately completely insane.

802
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 5: He's status obsessed.

803
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: It's all about the label, the fancy car, the platinum

804
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: encrusted watch, the vacation place instead, the showy perks.

805
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: What voon need to do?

806
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: Give MOI his number?

807
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 4: So you know, it's like she's being like, yes, I

808
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 4: want a rich man.

809
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 5: So it's like the frog is typing, so he is

810
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 5: her cock and she is this whole time, going back

811
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 5: and forth to being like I will leave you.

812
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 4: But he understands that it's a performance. He totally gets that.

813
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: Also very nineties about this Pokemon comment twent thousand and

814
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: nine is like the jokes about exercise equipment.

815
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 5: She's anti exercise, but she's also very like sweat band, StairMaster.

816
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 4: She gets buying at home fitness machine for your bedroom.

817
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: After about two weeks, get a major workout looking for

818
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 4: it under all those dirty clothes, I mean iconic.

819
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: Did your mom have Like we had a huge exercise bike.

820
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: It was massive on like the first floor, and you

821
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 5: remember it.

822
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: It was like white the bottom floor.

823
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it kind of created like a wind fan

824
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 5: like it had.

825
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 4: It was a swim.

826
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a swine. And my mom would listen

827
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 5: to her yellow Discman and she bought the LaBouche CD.

828
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: Actually at HMV.

829
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: That's a workout way too cool for any mom to

830
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: ever do.

831
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 5: I know, literally my mom buying.

832
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 4: That's crazy, and so she used it.

833
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like for a while and then it became.

834
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: I remember Dusty. There was a treadmill that I never

835
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 4: even saw out. It was only a against the wall

836
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 4: and then there was pushed down. There was this like

837
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 4: abs seeked and it's like, you know, those things are

838
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 4: like the worst machine of the gym. Like anytime I

839
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: see someone using the like thing where you sit in

840
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: and move down, it's like they don't have abs. It's

841
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 4: just like that's not how you got them. It was

842
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 4: like this seat with like a bar that you press, you.

843
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 5: Push down that you're just supposed to engauge the core.

844
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gauge the core. And I only ever saw

845
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 4: a pile of clothes on it, like it was absolutely

846
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 4: never finding hang defining like nineties and buying, especially the

847
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 4: TV and I think there are.

848
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 5: Something iconic photos of Piggy like being eighties being like leotard,

849
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 5: let's get physical now. It's like she is a past

850
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: generation of like you can be fabulous but anti exercise,

851
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 5: Like the coolest thing for a star is to be fit,

852
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 5: bit and spin. It's about being like naturally Fabuliz go.

853
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: To a gym that Paris Hilton to bring it back

854
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 4: to Confessions of an Era their sister to this book.

855
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: I remember at one point she says, if you do

856
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: work out, don't tell anyone. I love that, right, Like

857
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: you're supposed to experience of effortlessness. You're supposed to be

858
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: rich and genetics and like, yeah, being naturally thin.

859
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: It's not about working for it and being Lulu Lemon

860
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 5: and constant Stanley.

861
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 4: You know, it's completely shift now it's a status symbol

862
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 4: to be working out constantly.

863
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: Only being workout close and maybe think of the amazing

864
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: scene Alton First Wives Club when Goldie Han is on

865
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 5: the StairMaster. She says, I get my best ideas on

866
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 5: the StairMaster. She's also kind of a Piggy like character.

867
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 4: Oh for sure, you know, yeah, I mean we can

868
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 4: just make a list of all the piggies.

869
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 5: Goldie Hon Cameron DIA's.

870
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: I'm kind of saying Goldiehan's more piggy to.

871
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 5: Me, I think because it's about being like silly in

872
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: this different, like coookier way.

873
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 4: But it's also about being like diamonds in New York

874
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 4: and knowing that you're being in over the top, like

875
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 4: you know, kind of like materialist diva who's also like

876
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: an intellectual and wants to be the star, and you're

877
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: playing with that idea of desperation and a need for attention,

878
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 4: like Cameron dia is, this is not part of her

879
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 4: persona is the guy's girl who wants to play football

880
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: and do not show. It's like she just have this

881
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: like slightly self satirizing, Like isn't it ridiculous? How like

882
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 4: thirsty I am, like.

883
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 5: Right, and like I love men and chocolate. Yeah, Samantha

884
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: is actually not a Piggy.

885
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 4: It's hard she I mean, she is the most out

886
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: of the four of them.

887
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 5: But in a way, Piggy is also a little Charlotte Ye.

888
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 5: Piggy isn't giving it up and just wants this one

889
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 5: guy who has the money in the Park Avenue apartment

890
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 5: and Chanel right.

891
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: Just kind of Charlotte. Yes, yes, yes, no, I mean

892
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 4: and Charlotte's so rules, She's so dificule.

893
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 5: Even though but I would say love life. She's most

894
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 5: like Carrie because Big is Kermit never giving her the marriage.

895
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 4: Big is not like a thin indie guy who lives

896
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 4: in Ridge.

897
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 5: No, but relationship wise he.

898
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: Is a little more Steve to me though.

899
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 5: Personality wise you just saying, though, how Big. It's like

900
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 5: there's always this.

901
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: Guy, Like I think it'd be funnier if intead of

902
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 4: making them divorce, there was more Miranda and Steve. Like

903
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: she becomes a lesbian, she becomes she gets pig becomes

904
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 4: a lessian, gets with Gena, Lions and Chrome has just

905
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: been like I'm happy to just watch Netflix or whatever.

906
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 1: The fabulous segment coat, What does she eat?

907
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 5: What does she wear chanel?

908
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: Of course?

909
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: How does she live? Per caven your apartment?

910
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 3: What does she eat for grass?

911
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 4: Oysters? Champagne? Do you think bacon?

912
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: I feel like it's so piggy to like.

913
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: Go to like like a fabulous restaurant like Laban and

914
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: Den and they serve her and she doesn't realize it

915
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 3: and then she gets mad at the hip and they're

916
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: like Peggy, this is our favorite, and they serve.

917
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 5: Her like some pork thing. She starts to eat it

918
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 5: and then.

919
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: Is like and then she gets like offended, and she

920
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 4: demands the meal for free, but then finishes the meal

921
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: also and.

922
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 5: Eats it all, and then it's like, Jaminda another dinner here.

923
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: Oh no, she's throwing a fit. She's getting comps left

924
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 4: and right.

925
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 5: Left and right. I think that's the thing about Piggy

926
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 5: is like she's always.

927
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 3: Been like friend a man to buy you something, but.

928
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 5: You never see kerme swiping. I think she gets most

929
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 5: stuff for free.

930
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: You know where she's definitely going frog club.

931
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 5: But yeah, she's getting the pigs and blankets a frog club.

932
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 5: And then it's like I'm never going there again. So

933
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 5: she eats a frog club.

934
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: But what does she wear? Designer? Is she like a

935
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 4: little bit like rent the Runway And I think that's

936
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: like out of business now, but like.

937
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: I think she is really run the one runway because

938
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 5: she is so like being dressed. And I watched this

939
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 5: clip of her and when he Williams and she was like, I'm.

940
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: At a press tour like footcam my Christian Lubitans, and

941
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: I didn't pay for them the studio did.

942
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: No because she loves labels and she wants new stuff.

943
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: But she is always being a little bit like Hermie,

944
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: where's the money And.

945
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: She's like, well, Piggy, I had to pay for our

946
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 5: movie that we just made.

947
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, And she was like, fine, I'll get the movie

948
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 3: producer to pay for it.

949
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. She's like renting chandelier arians. I'm at the room

950
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 4: way all the time.

951
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 5: And that is like maybe returning them. How does she

952
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: live like fabulous Park Avenue apartment, But again, like she's

953
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 5: not owning it. The studio again is putting her up.

954
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 5: And I feel like she's very I mean like Joan Rivers,

955
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 5: she ran, she's a Renter's an miss renter, Piggy like again,

956
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 5: parents like maybe if she's in a mansion Beverly Hills,

957
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 5: it's still a little twenty thousand a month rentals.

958
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 4: So low hand, that's crazy. I feel like she's more

959
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: like Janice Dickinson and she's like, Okay, well the seconds

960
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 4: is probably paying like fourteen hundred a month right now.

961
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: I would say she's doing a fifty six hundred a

962
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 4: month rental in the hills.

963
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 5: Okay, in the Hills.

964
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 4: Is that fair?

965
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 5: She should go on selling sunset. That would be great,

966
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 5: would be so funny, like a Manza showing her house.

967
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 4: And then she steals g flip from Krishelle. Yeah. Well

968
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: and this is.

969
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 5: Well right because she's so high camp, like it's kind

970
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 5: of like class like she wasn't with Kermie. It would

971
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 5: have to be like a butcher in this way, because

972
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 5: it's kind of like she is too much for like

973
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 5: another street guy, like it is more like kai femme

974
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 5: camp lipstick. Yeah, oh, because their original tall fem short butch.

975
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: I wonder if she could be with like a real

976
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: like a movie star. She could be with a closet

977
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: movie star like George Clooney, And she mentions that put

978
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: George Cey in this book.

979
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: She's always like, oh, go to a charity dinner because

980
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: you'll be seated next to George Clooney.

981
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: I love going to Lake Como.

982
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, she's squatting at his like Como house, and it's

983
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 5: like he's like, Piggy, where are you And she's like

984
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 5: hiding in a closet and like stays there.

985
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 4: He's got like a train of Italian twinks in her

986
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 4: space and she's just in the other room.

987
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 5: Like having figs. Yeah, who are you? I mean, I

988
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 5: think we're both biggy like Decan why diamonds chocolate.

989
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 4: We're both fabulous. Steva's in the grand queer tradition of

990
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: eminine celebration and satire.

991
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 5: Pig Her.

992
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's not a lot of other people

993
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 4: in the book. Really.

994
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 5: I guess there's a kermit. She mentions Gonzo.

995
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 4: We're also kind of if you want to lose our friends,

996
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 4: if you want to like expand to the whole like

997
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: network of muppets. We are the two old men in the.

998
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 5: Balcony who were like talking at the movies, who were talking.

999
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: At the movie here and getting shushed and are like

1000
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 4: so pissed about everything.

1001
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: Wait, I just saw which is so too old men

1002
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 5: that Anna Wintour told Jenna Bush and Hoda to be

1003
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 5: quiet at the US Open.

1004
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 4: Wow, we are absolutely getting shushed, but anyway, and Jenna

1005
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 4: Bush is just like screaming, like trying to.

1006
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 5: Take a photo of Tailer Swift and on her phone.

1007
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 5: Anna Wintour is just like, please be quiet, toy, this

1008
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: is Dennis get out to be silent.

1009
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 3: Well, okay, club kid, it's been a wonderful episode. Sorry,

1010
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: I have a reservation at front Club.

1011
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 5: I was trying to rush out of you.

1012
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: Well, of course I give him mos book a five

1013
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: out of five, five differy engagement rings out of five.

1014
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm afraid to give this book anything less than

1015
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: Chanel number five, Chanel number fives.

1016
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 5: I mean, I would love a longer form.

1017
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 4: It'd be hilarious. A memoir. Yeah, I'd love for someone.

1018
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 5: To like do the child and like meeting Kermit.

1019
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I had such a fun time going back

1020
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 4: watching the Muppet Show. That show was hilarious. I was

1021
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 4: laughing like a child, literally giggling.

1022
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 5: And also, yeah, it wasn't really made for kids.

1023
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: It's like literally not for adults. Wait did I tell

1024
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 4: you that? I was watching like History of the World,

1025
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 4: like mel Brooks the movie the other day. Oh fun.

1026
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: I was like, I've never seen it, and it's like

1027
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 4: so funny.

1028
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 5: I don't think I've seen History.

1029
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 4: It's actually like super ridiculous and rye and it's like

1030
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 4: a ride take on history. We love and like because

1031
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 4: you know, like we're so like history, and I love

1032
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 4: just like kind of like ironic modern takes on like

1033
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: stuff from the cost and it's very that have you ever.

1034
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 5: Seen this musical the producers.

1035
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 4: Anyway, just get into stuff from the seventies because people

1036
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 4: were having a great time.

1037
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 5: But they were having so much fun. And like, honestly,

1038
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 5: if you type in like any like YouTube search, like

1039
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 5: most random celebrities have like done a thing with Miss Piggy.

1040
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 5: Like I was like Miss Piggy, Johnny Cash, Miss Piggy,

1041
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 5: Joan Rivers that is a hole.

1042
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Miss Piggy ethel Merman. She was like a

1043
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: do at with like everybody.

1044
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 5: But then you go modern and she's doing a spoof

1045
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 5: on Adele's Hello music video.

1046
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 4: So get into Miss Piggy, get.

1047
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: Into explore the truth. Okay, Piggy does a little to

1048
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: be such a defan.

1049
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 6: So we have to tell you about my staff.

1050
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: They're wonderful, my producers, starby Masters. Wouldn't she learn how

1051
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: to dress like a.

1052
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: Booza fars Kurmit's dear friend, did you just professing producer?

1053
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 3: And he helps me with my BlackBerry learning how to

1054
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Speaker 3: charge introduce my new MacBook and my executive producers Christine Everett.

1055
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 6: I let her, of course a differently introduced helping me

1056
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 6: for Corn Diamonds, Stephen Fillip.

1057
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 3: Torch to the music and theme song of course, and

1058
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: music while I walk, and so he creates the mixes.

1059
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 4: For me to trot for the city.

1060
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 3: I love art and I loved galleries, and of course

1061
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 3: I'm a painter and I'm a big collector because you

1062
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: have to.

1063
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 6: Have multiple investments. So Teddy blanks to the artwork and

1064
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 6: I have many of his pieces in my mansion in Recaos.

1065
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 3: Where before Kermit I was with a man on prola projects.

1066
00:51:53,000 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 3: He couldn't well, let's just say reported ways. Of course,

1067
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: it's t's incredibly sexy and we made a few films

1068
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: in the seventies, just not for children.

1069
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Follow us and Patreon, Feed the Pig,

1070
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: Feed the Pig. I need to buy.

1071
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Speaker 3: Thanks Patreon dot com, slash CVC the pod please

1072
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Speaker 5: For