1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hello everybody. Hey, y'all, how's it going. I am Eli, 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm Diana. We're so excited for another episode of ridiculous 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: romance here on Valentine's Day or when you'll be hearing 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: this shortly after Valentine's Day. Yeah, but this is how 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: we're spending our Valentine's Day. We're not huge Valentine's people. No, 6 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: that's I was about to say. I don't really expect 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: much for Valentine's Day. Like I'm not trying to get like, 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, chuck chuck some flowers and crazy jewelry or anything. Oh, ship, 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: call off the truck. No, I mean if there's a 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: truck on the way. Okay, Well, at least we've each 11 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: found each other who cares an equal amount about Valentine's Day, which, like, 12 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: it's nice. It's like like we said hello this morning, 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, gave it a little like good morning, good 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: to see you again. Oh what a special day. Hands hands, 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: It's very formal. Nice, it's nice. It's nice to know 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: the magic's not totally fizzled out. No, we clebrated over 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: the weekend. We went and saw wild woods a glow 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: at Fernbank, just like a natural History Museum and they 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: had this whole like a really cool exhibit about color 20 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: and light. It was really cool. It's like this after 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: hours thing, adults only like seven to eleven, and they're like, 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: we got this outdoor light show you can go see 23 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: and you can buy drinks in the lobby under the 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: big dinosaur skeletons, and there's like a band that played 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: for a minute, and then the museum is yours to explore. 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: And I think we both learned that maybe PM with 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: a drink in your hand isn't when you particularly want 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: to be walking around a museum and reading a lot 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 1: of things on tiny cards. But it was still cool 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: to be in there. I definitely was like, I like 31 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: a natural history museum, but I'm just not interested in 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: learning right now. Shells and I was like whatever, Yeah, 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: you were done around the show. I was done around. 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: I was like a collection, don't care. Because there was 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: also a lot of drunk people. Weirdly like people got 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: there and went hard early, or they were just like 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: walking by everything really fast. I know. It's yeah, that's 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: this whole sound bath and they're like mushroom Garden. You're 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: supposed to just like get lost in these these humming 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: tones that are playing while these mushrooms light up, and 41 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: it was beautiful. And then we're like what Jenny say? 42 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well what Steve say? And I was like, dude, 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: we're in the sound bath. I don't want to be 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: based in your bro talk. Shut up, which I was 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: kind of laughing because I'm normally I'm a person who's like, well, whatever, 46 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: they're enjoying themselves, Like fine, it's kind of fun sometimes 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: to let snatches of other people's conversation come to your 48 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: ear and you're like, what, like fill in the blank, 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: like whatever you like. It's like speculation station out in 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: the wild. Yeah, but but yeah, for some reason, I 51 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: was I was just I was like, I feel annoyed 52 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: because I'm annoyed today it was an outdoor meditative exhibit 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: about sound. It was like, this is the worst place 54 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: for that. I mean, like the shells, I would love 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: to catch snippets of your absolutely insane conversation to the shells. 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: Did you listen? Did you hear that? In the shells room? 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Was that girl yelling? She was talking to her friend 58 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: about like another friend of theirs, and like clearly they 59 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: were disagreeing about Palestine and like it was something very 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: serious and I was like, oh my god, why are 61 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: you talking about this right now? In the Shells Exhibit's 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: like I just can't hang out with him. After what 63 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: he said about Palestine. I was like, what did he say? 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: I was I was like, so in their conversation, right, 65 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: how did it get to this here? It was very 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: serious and incredible. I feel like you should say that 67 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: another time. But the highlight of the weekend, I think 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: was when we got to go see Mark Evan Jackson 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: at the Plaza Theater and Improv show, The Improv show. 70 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: Who I You know, if you don't know who he is, 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: he Kevin Cosner on Brooklyn nine nine and he's Shawn 72 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the Demon in Good Place. He's really funny, so dry. 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: If you don't know who he is, you probably do 74 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: just look back like, oh yeah that guy very true 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: and uh yeah. It was really fun and we is 76 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: like some hometown improv heroes on stage with him, and 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: it was really funny and but it was cool to 78 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: like see someone how he's not a goofy person, right, 79 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: but like he was so funny, just so dry, and 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: his delivery is so ry and stuff that like he 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: he just gets you. He'll say one thing and it's 82 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: just the delivery fucking tickles you. Ye, like the most 83 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: mundane line that he'll deliver in a way that just 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: has everybody rolling. That's just the real talent that some 85 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: people have. It is, that's like truly funny. But enough 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: about us and our ridiculous romance. Y'all didn't tune in 87 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: for that. You turned in to hear this incredible story. 88 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: I love this one because today we want to tell 89 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: you about Agnes of Dunbar. She was married to Patrick, 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: the Earl of March, but Patrick was away from home 91 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: fighting for Scottish independence when British troops pulled up on 92 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Agnes and tried to besiege her castle, but she held 93 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: onto it in a fight so legendary that the story 94 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: has been passed down for centuries as a model example 95 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: of Scottish bravery and defiance. So let's hear about sticky 96 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: Scottish politics, four different edwards, and how Agnes made herself 97 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: the star the story. Yes, let's go, Hey, their French 98 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: come listen. Well, Elia and Diana got some stories to tell. 99 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: There's no matchmaking a romantic tips, It's just about ridiculous relationships, 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: a lover. It might be any type of person at all, 101 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: and abstract cons a don a concrete wall. But if 102 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: there's a story where the second plant ridiculous role lance 103 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio, all right, well, before we 104 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: get into Agnes of Dunbar, we do need a little 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: bit of background. That's true, and that means it's time 106 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: to throw caution to the winds, follow our hearts and 107 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: have ourselves a quickling with history. I will tell anyone, 108 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: I promise. So Scotland was ruled by King Alexander the 109 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: Third until he died unexpectedly after being thrown from his 110 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: horse in twelve d things. I feel like that probably 111 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: happened to a lot of hopes. Yeah what we we don't. 112 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: We don't lose rulers like that anymore, like if George W. 113 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: Bush had choked on that pretzel, just like WHOA a 114 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: weird accident and suddenly we need a new ruler of 115 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: our country. Unusual. So some Scots lords thirteen to be exact, 116 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: started vying for this throne, but the two most credible 117 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: claimants were John Balliol and Robert Bruce. They were both 118 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: descended from David the First, who was the King of 119 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: Scotland in there, so they had like blood lines were 120 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: right and all that stuff. Very Stannis and renly once again, 121 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: yes class yeah. So obviously a civil war was to 122 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: be avoided. Nobody wanted that. So the nobility of Scotland 123 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: approached the English King, Edward the First, and they asked 124 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: him to arbitrate the dispute. Basically picked the king that 125 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: he wanted, and Edward the First was happy to do it, 126 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: but only if everyone agreed that Scotland was under the 127 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: authority of England, so king of Theirs was still just 128 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: a subject of his. So Edward the First basically like, oh, yes, 129 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: I'll pick your king. It's me basically, I mean, may 130 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: as well just that. But Robert Bruce and John Balliol 131 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: both agreed that they would bend the knee to the 132 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: King of England whoever he picked, and eventually Edward the 133 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: First picked John Balliol to be King of Scotland in 134 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: twelve ninety two. That was that, Well, that wasn't that, 135 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: because Edward the First just kept pushing it. You know. First, 136 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, you give a mouse a cookie. First, It's like, okay, 137 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: well you'll, I'll let you be king, but you gotta 138 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: listen to me, and then he starts undermining Scotland and 139 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: their new king. At every turn. He forced them to 140 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: pay homage to England, and once he even required King 141 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: John Balliol to show up in court and face charges 142 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: like some commoner, some petty ship something that that that 143 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: is literally just like a power move to make you 144 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: look weak. Absolutely, and that that's exactly how they took it. Now, 145 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: John was willing to compromise with England, and that really 146 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: soured his Scottish subject on him pretty quickly. The straw 147 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: that broke the camel's back, though, was when Edward the 148 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: First demanded that the Scots supply him with soldiers to 149 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: fight England's war with France. Scottish nobility is like, hell, 150 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: now we don't, don't you every dame regards so you 151 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: can fight the French. We don't care about the French. 152 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: We like a croissant. So the Scots convened a council 153 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: and they negotiated treaty with France behind in lives back 154 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: right where I'm not sending you ship. We're actually friends 155 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: with them. Didn't you know we're not at war with France? 156 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: So why don't you eat dirt? Right, Well the Royally 157 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: Piste off Royal Edward the First and he besieged Scotland 158 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: at Dunbar and he won, taking over the Castle of Dunbar, 159 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: which is one of Scotland's strongest and most strategically important fortresses. 160 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: King John Balliol was forced to abdicate and the arms 161 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: of Scotland were ripped off his coat, leading to his 162 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: enduring nickname of tombab meaning empty coats, and this also 163 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: refers to him being like an ineffective ruler, which I love. 164 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: I love them acting like they're like, oh, a coat's here, 165 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: there's no guy in the you know, they're just like 166 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: tabs here. Well, Edward the First had pushed Scotland too far. 167 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: This time it basically kicked off William Wallace's uprising and 168 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: the Scottish Wars for independence. Robert Bruce died, but his son, 169 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Robert the Bruce felt like his family still had a 170 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: claim to the throne of Scotland and now he helped 171 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: William Wallace fight the British. And then he realized, you know, 172 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: they're never going to restore John Balliols to the throne 173 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: of Scotland, so I think I should have it. So 174 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: he killed his main rival John Coleman in six went 175 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: into hiding and waged pretty much the most effective guerrilla 176 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: war in history against Clan Coleman and King Edward the 177 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: Second this time, who was crowned in thirteen oh seven. 178 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: So we're on to our second Edward. This is that 179 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: movie with Chris Pine, right, that's right, the Outlaw, Yes, 180 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: and Jodie Comer I believe plays his wife. Oh yeah, 181 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: that's right. That it was good, right, And I love 182 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: Chris Pine. So I was just like, you love Chris Pine. 183 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Now I really do. Your Valentine, my Valentine, chris Pine. Valentine, 184 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: my valent Pine. So yeah, Robert the Bruce is fighting 185 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: this war for years, and the turning point was the 186 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: Battle of Baneford in thirteen fourteen, when Robert the Bruce 187 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: delivered a stunning defeat to the English. This is when 188 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: we meet Pat Trick Dunbar, one of our subjects today. 189 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: He was the Earl of March and his dad was 190 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: one of the thirteen claimants to King Alexander's crown. If 191 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: you remember, there was thirteen Scots who came in and said, 192 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: well we should make king. After that guy fell off 193 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: the horse, etcetera, etcetera. Well, his dad, after King Edward 194 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: the first pick to king for Scotland, his dad was like, okay, 195 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: all side with the English here, that sounds good, and 196 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Dunbar followed in his father's footsteps. He received payments 197 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: from the English crown to help sort of keep the 198 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: Scots in line. Now he had to deal with both 199 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: sides all the time, as Deborah McGillivray writes in her 200 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: article A Tale of Two Women and One Castle, because 201 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Dunbar's lands were always kind of caught in the 202 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: middle English Scottish English Scottish. Both Robert the Bruce and 203 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: his younger brother Edward Bruce loved to raid dunbar lands 204 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: for supplies while the English garrisons were also waging war there, 205 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: and that just put everyone in danger. And he's kind 206 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: of being impoverished by both sides. Patrick had to play 207 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: a pretty daring diplomatic game to keep himself and his 208 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: people and his property safe. However, as much as his 209 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: dad had ridden with Edward the First, his mother had 210 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: taken a stand for the Scots, and she defended Castle 211 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: Dunbar from the English when Patrick was only eleven years old, 212 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: So he had this really contradictory life. It seems right, moms, 213 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: Scottish dad's with the English. I'm totally torn in between them. 214 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: And in thirteen fourteen, at the Battle of bannock Burn, 215 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: Patrick gave quarter to King Edward the Second in Dunbar 216 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: Castle and helped him to escape by boat back to England. 217 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: So that seemed like he pretty firmly took a side there, 218 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: like I've got the English king right here, I'm going 219 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: to sneak him out. But almost as soon as Edward 220 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: the Second was out of Scotland, Patrick turned around and 221 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: made peace with his cousin Robert the Bruce and decided 222 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: to fight for Scottish independence. So he was sort of 223 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: feeling flip floppy at this time if he wasn't really 224 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: sure what was the best bet. So Patrick Dunbar is 225 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: listed as being present at Robert the Bruce's first Parliament 226 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: in thirteen fifteen, and he took part in the Scottish 227 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: siege at Berwick, which is an important border town, and 228 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: he was one of Robert the Bruce's commanders. It was 229 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: like a very trusted part of the Scottish fight for independence. 230 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: And in thirteen eighteen Patrick married Agnes Randolph Oh from 231 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: the title of the episode is now Agnes was Robert 232 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: the Bruce's nephews daughter. We don't know for sure if 233 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: they loved each other. There's no like fun love letters 234 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: to read you from Patrick's Agnes or vice versa. But 235 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: Deborah McGillivray points out that they did have to go 236 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: through quite a bit to make their marriage legal, so 237 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: they must have really wanted it. Agnes and Patrick were 238 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: second cousins, so they had to get a papal dispensation 239 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: to wed classic that Pope was like, you're not quite 240 00:13:54,360 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: related enough cousins, please send them, okay, And then they 241 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: had to get a second dispensation in order to make 242 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: any children. They may have their legal heirs because Agnes's 243 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: sister had married Patrick's brother, so there's just too any 244 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: like crossing of the streams. The siblings would be like, 245 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: if my sister married your brother, which is the most 246 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: insane thing, I can would never work any either of 247 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: your sisters, either my sisters and your brother. Not absolutely 248 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: laugh laughable what it is. So it's possible that there 249 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: was some feelings on either side, but also this was 250 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: actually a very advantageous marriage, you know, one of those 251 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: possibly a business proposition. You're telling me nobility in Europe 252 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: in century was marrying strategically. I am loving you that shocking, 253 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: can't handle it. Shocking, but true. No, this was a 254 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: very advantageous marriage because Agnes was the eldest dad of 255 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: Thomas Randolph, so she had a huge inheritance that would 256 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: just add a lot to Patrick's already vast land holdings 257 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: and personal wealth. Robert the Bruce would get the Dunbar 258 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: clans helped to subdue Clan Coman, his enemies at home, 259 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: and Patrick would get Roberts Generals, which included his new 260 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: father in law Thomas Randolph, to stop raiding his lands 261 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: all the time because they would actually care because it 262 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: was their families lands now. So it was truly a 263 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: win win for everybody. Oh and here's a little just 264 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: a historic note. Agnes is often called black Agnes, which 265 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: historians take to mean that she had dark hair or 266 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: like a swarthy complexion, but Deborah McGillivray points out that 267 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: in Scottish clans they referred to the black branch of 268 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: the family tree, meaning the eldest, and the red branch 269 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: meaning the youngest, so Black Agnes could just be a 270 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: reference to her being the eldest child rather than have 271 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: anything to do with her physical appearance. Well, meanwhile, Scotland 272 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: is bumping along through this fight. You've got Bruce's fight comens, 273 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: You've got Ireland get involved. Everyone's fighting the English and 274 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: then some real drama hit. In thirteen twenty seven, Edward 275 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: the Second was deposed by his own queen Isabella and 276 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: her lover Roger Mortimer, and he was forced to abdicate 277 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: to his own son, Edward the Third, even though that 278 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: kid was only fourteen years old at the time. So 279 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: bonus classic romance here in this episode of a of 280 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: a queen and her lover overtaking her husband the king, 281 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: putting their kid on the thrones, that they could really 282 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: be in charge. She hated Edward the Second him because 283 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: since Edward the Third was so young. Of course, Isabella 284 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: and her lover Roger Mortimer, conducted negotiations with the Scots 285 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: in his name, and they signed the Treaty of Northumberland 286 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: in eight which recognized Robert the Bruce as the King 287 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: of Scotland. Bing bang bong Scott's independent pipes. Everybody's happy, 288 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: but everybody wasn't happy. Particularly the English not at all. 289 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: This made Roger and Isabella really unpopular, and that went 290 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: along with a lot of moves they made really unpopular 291 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: with the people. And so in thirteen thirty, when he 292 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: was just seventeen years old, their son Edward the Third, 293 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: whom they had conspired but on the throne, let a 294 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: coup against them, and he executed Roger Mortimer and exiled 295 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: his own mother Isabella. Now that Edward the Third was 296 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: really in charge, he turned his eyes back towards Scotland 297 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: once more. Robert the Bruce, who had been made king 298 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: by Isabella and Mortimer, had died, and his toddler son, 299 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: the five year old David the Second was king. Now 300 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: Edward the Third was like, well, I was a fourteen 301 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: year old king. I know how week a five year 302 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: old king would be. And he decided to take advantage 303 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: of the situation because he didn't really like the decision 304 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: that his mother made, much like the rest of England. 305 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: And he's like, uh, independent Scotland never heard of it. 306 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: And he said that John Balliol remember him, the tomb 307 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: tabour guy. He was the last real king of Scotland, 308 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: which means David the Second, Robert the Bruce's son. This 309 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: little five year old was just a pretender to the throne. 310 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: He had no real claim. The real king of Scotland 311 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: would be John Balliol's son, Edward Balliol, our fourth Edward. 312 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was time to fight a Balliol again, 313 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: and Patrick Dunbar was ready. But it would be at 314 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: as his battle that would go down in history, and 315 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: we will find out more about that right after this. 316 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: We'll come back. Give it a buddy. I do love 317 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: your Scottish accent. Thank you so good. It's so fun 318 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: to do. I hope it's not too offensive and terrible. 319 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: Really is fun. I'll have to hear from some of 320 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: our Scottish listeners. Are you offended by something? Tells me 321 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: our Scottish friends won't be shy about expressing theirs. I'm 322 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: not getting the impression from this episode or any other 323 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: any others. Not a timid people, not so much, all right. 324 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: So we're dealing with Edward the third Right, who has 325 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: decided Scotland ain't independent, it's a vassal of England, and 326 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: I want to be the guy who crushes it once 327 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: and for all. So in thirteen thirty two, Patrick was 328 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: appointed a Guardian of Scotland and the regents. So he 329 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: was acting for the infant David the Second. Okay, okay, wait, 330 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: so our boy Patrick Patrick Dunbar is now acting as 331 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: the regent for this five year old who had been 332 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: making after Robert the Bruce died. That's right, that's not 333 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: a bad gig, no, And it shows you how trusted 334 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: of a person he must have been for Robert the Bruce. 335 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: You can see chris Pine on his deathbed with that mullet. 336 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: Patrick's are it's gotta be you man? How did he 337 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: sound like? That's a chris Pine sense. That's true, hippie man. 338 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: Teach him not to be toxic masculine. Get some linen pants, 339 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: go to the bookstore by fifty books of the bookstore. 340 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: Make sure the paparazzie sees you. Book talk will be thirsty. 341 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: So Patrick Dunbar met Edward Balliol, who was Edward the 342 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: Third kind of puppet king I want to be king. 343 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: He met him on the battlefield several times, crushed it 344 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: as usual. Again we're talking about a really good soldier. Yeah, 345 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: and Edward Balliol was eventually forced to ask Edward the 346 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: Third for help. He's like, I can't take over Scotland 347 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: by myself and had some English soldiers and the King 348 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: answered the call and together they besieged Berwick, that important 349 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: border town we talked about earlier, and they won the 350 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: Battle of Halidon Hill. Patrick Dunbar was forced to surrender, 351 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: and in order to avoid prison he bent the knee 352 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: to both Edwards Edward Balliol as King of scott Land 353 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: and Edward the third as King of England, and as 354 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: part of their agreement to not arrest or kill Patrick, 355 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: Edward the third ordered him to destroy the fortifications of 356 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: Castle Dunbar so the Scots could not use it as 357 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: a base of operations to wage war against the British. Again, 358 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: this is the strongest fortress in Scotland. It's one of 359 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: it's very strategically important place and the Scots were definitely 360 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: using it in their girla war. So He's like, let's 361 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: deny them this base of operations. Destroy your house. So 362 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: Patrick and Agnes had to deliberately make their historic home 363 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: in Scotland's greatest fortress weaker for their enemy, but even 364 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: more frustrating. As soon as they were done dismantling stuff, 365 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: Edward the third changed his mind and he told Patrick 366 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: to make this place battle ready once again at Patrick's 367 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 1: own expense. So he's straight up it's like, what did 368 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: you do with all the fortifications? We need this? Like 369 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: you just told me to break him up. You never 370 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: say something ridiculous. Wow. I know no one's ever said 371 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: this before, but the King of England is kind of 372 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: a dick. Wow. Brand new take by the King of England. 373 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: So it took years to renovate the castle back to 374 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: its original or better strength, but by thirty seven it 375 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: was fortified once more. And even though Patrick had sworn 376 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: allegiance to England, he was still helping the Scots out 377 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: on the side, and that's because he was firmly tied 378 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: the Scots because of his wife, Agnes. Patrick took up 379 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: arms in several battles against the English, fighting alongside Agnes's 380 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: younger brother, John Randolph, the Earl of Moray, and Sir 381 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: Alexander Ramsey to defeat the English count Namer. After Namer 382 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: was beaten, John Randolph escorted the count to safety, but 383 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: he was ambushed and taking prisoner by the English. Damn Patrick, 384 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Dunbar and Alexander Ramsey early escaped with their lives. According 385 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: to Zeborah, McGillivray. But this brings us to our main 386 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: story today, which is the siege of Dunbar Castle. In 387 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: January eight, Patrick Dunbar was off fighting, probably either a 388 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: battle or preparing to fight one, and acts of Dunbar. 389 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: His wife was at home at Dunbar Castle, which had 390 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: been of course all fortified and was super strong. Right now, 391 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: sparkland brand, spank, intification, wet paint, don't touch. It was 392 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: pretty common in medieval times for the woman of the 393 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: house to defend her home in her lands when her 394 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: husband wasn't around, and Agnes took that job very seriously. 395 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: But the British Earl of Salisbury, William Montague, thought that 396 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: he would take advantage of the brave and daring Patrick's absence. 397 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: He figures, this castle is really important and right now 398 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: there's just some lady and her servants, like a couple 399 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: of guards taken care of it, so this to be 400 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: an easy victory. This sounds to me like Joe Peshi 401 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: and home alone. Yes, let's knock off this. It's just 402 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: some kids, just some kids, let's go rob this place. 403 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: Oh my, this is actually very much like a thirty 404 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: eight Scottish home alone are really well, if I could 405 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: please to play Agnes, Oh my god, absolutely hilarious. Surely 406 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: there's a Scottish woman. No, there is a Scottish woman 407 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: out there who would be a better choice. So he's like, oh, easy, 408 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: peasy whatever. He shows up. Salsbury shows up at Castle 409 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: Dunbar with twenty thousand men, and he told Agnes surrender 410 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: in the name of the King of England. But to 411 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: his surprise, hadn't us responded with a resounding and no, bitch, 412 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: She apparently told him quote of Scotland's king. I had 413 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: my house, I pay him eat and feet, and I 414 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: will keep my good old house while my house will 415 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: keep me as. Salisbury's like, okay, this bitch is crazy. 416 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: It's the middle of winter. She's got no supplies, no man, 417 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: and she's rhyming at me, like, what come on, boys, 418 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: Let's get to siege and we should be done at 419 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes. He's so confident. Well, so Salisbury's army 420 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: dragged out the manganels or these siege engines that could 421 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: kind of triped shape catapult things, and they start hurling 422 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: giant boulders at the ramparts of Castle Dunbars. All day. 423 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: For two weeks they would rain these big gas boulders 424 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: onto the castle, but brand spanking new, shiny and fortified 425 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: as it was, these stones didn't really do as much 426 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: damage as Salisbury would have liked. And then, to add 427 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: insult to injury, when the English stopped for the day, 428 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: Agnes would come out with her ladies in waiting and 429 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: just sort of casually dust off the ramparts with their 430 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: handkerch its, like, oh, why are you boys on the 431 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: way so messy? Basically I can like they haven't done much, 432 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: but spread some dirt arounds to clean up this mess again. Uh, 433 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: buys down there, when you're playing with your toys tomorrow, 434 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: can you try and keep things a little more tid? 435 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: Can you clean up after yourselves? Next? Tame and yeah, 436 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: he must be like, oh, like, oh my god. But 437 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: the Salsbury's like, alright, alright, alright, let's bring out the 438 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: big guns. Let's show this lady who's buss And he 439 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: built a sow, which is this big movable siege engine 440 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: that allowed men to use a battering ram on the 441 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: castle doors while being protected from arrows or boiling oil 442 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: or whatever from above. Well, Agnes is like, uh, yeah, 443 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: that'll be using that sow because I'm about to catch 444 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: me a bunch of quote let's all anglish Peggy's. So 445 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: Salsbury's gets worked up again. He does not like how 446 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: she is just mocking him face very much. Sorry. It's 447 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: very much like the French night in Monty Python and 448 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: the Holy Grail, like real taunting and insulting and just 449 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: belittling this man. He's like, hilarious, and she's like your 450 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: mother smells, except she's probably like your mother smells a 451 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: dog shite. I'm true. That's so she would not even bother. 452 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: She'd just be like, actually, you also smell like dogs, 453 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: so I guess it runs in the family. So anyway, 454 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: he Salsbury immediately deploys the sal It gets close to 455 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: the castle walls and they start battering. But Agnes and 456 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: a few men that she had at her disposal had 457 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: been collecting those boulders that the English had been thrown 458 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: at them, so they simply tossed one over the castle 459 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: walls and completely crushed the south and Salburry' is like, 460 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: oh ship, and Agnes waves at him and she's like, oh, 461 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the ammunition. Appreciate it would 462 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: have been screwed without all these boulders. Incredible. So as 463 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: the survivors running back to the English line, she called out, 464 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: quote the whole the letter of English pigs scurrying. Salisbury's 465 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: dignity has taken a real hit because even the guards 466 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: got into it. One of Agnes's archers deliberately drew down 467 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: on Salisbury like he met his eye and he's like, 468 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm about to kill you, then deliberately hit the guy 469 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: next to him and yelled out quote, Agnes has love 470 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: shafts go straight to the heart. Wow. Well, clearly Salisbury 471 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: was not very good at his job, and he had 472 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: to think of a new strategy. Patrick had fortified the 473 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: absolute shit out of the castle at Edward the Third's commands, 474 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: and Agnes was not scared enough to give in. So 475 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Salisbury went up to the Scottish soldier who was guarding 476 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: the pork palis and he bribed him to leave the 477 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: gate unsecured, so so man, my men could storm the 478 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: castle and get inside. He's a shilling for your time, 479 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: and the guards like, oh shore bet got you up, 480 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: and he took Salisbury's money, and sure enough, a short 481 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: while later, the Portcullis creek open backstabbers trader Well, Salisbury 482 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: and his men went charging up, and one guy sort 483 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: of managed to get ahead of salisbury real eager soldier, 484 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: and he entered the gate first victory. We're inside, except 485 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: not because as soon as this eager little soldier got 486 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: inside the bailey or the outer wall of the castle, 487 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: the portcullis slammed shut, trapping him inside. The Scottish guard 488 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: had apparently happily taken Salisbury's money as a bride, but 489 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: then he went straight to Agnes with the story, and 490 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: she cooked up a little scheme to take Salisbury prisoner. 491 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: They were gonna try and trap him him inside the bailey, 492 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: leading Lady Dunbar, what do you believe this englishman thinks 493 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: that he can give me a shilling? Just do whatever 494 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: he says. We've got to come up with something funny. 495 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, no, we're going to use this, Oh 496 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: we're going to use this incredible Well, this eager little 497 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: soldier ruined it because they caught him instead. But even 498 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: though it didn't work, you know, our girl got the 499 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: last word. Of course, she called down to him. Quote 500 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: Farewell Montague, I intended that you should have slept with 501 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: us and assist us in defending the castle against the English. 502 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: She stood up, had a plate lad after you and 503 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: everything coming in. I thought you were coming in to 504 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: help out. Well, all right, I guess see you next time. 505 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: So Agnes is killing it. I mean she is not 506 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: only holding her for it, he is pissing him off 507 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: so hard, and she has not fired a single shot herself. 508 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: Salthburies get angry by the day. Months had gone by. 509 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: He could not get one castle out of the hands 510 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,719 Speaker 1: of a twenty six year old woman. So he's pasting 511 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: around his little war tent or whatever, and he's like, 512 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: what does this horrible woman love? What will make a 513 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: give in? And he realized that the English actually did 514 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: have something very precious to Agnes. Her brother John Randolph, 515 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: the Earl of Moray. Remember, he had been taken prisoner 516 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: a while back, and he and Agnes corresponded frequently while 517 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: he was I mean he was away. He was like 518 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: imprisoned for years. He went to like many different locations. 519 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: She always wrote to him, and he always wrote back, 520 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: so that he's like, oh, she must be really fond 521 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: of him. I know exactly what to do. So Southbury's like, 522 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: get John out here, and he brings John up to 523 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: the gate, throws a noose around his neck, and it 524 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: calls out to Agnes, surrender or I will execute your 525 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: beloved baby brother right in front of you. Well, what 526 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: do you think happened? Agnes gave in and the story 527 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: is over. No, just kidding. Agnes just laughed in his face, 528 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: and she told him to go for it. She said, 529 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: you'll be doing me a favor. Actually, I'm John's air, 530 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: so if he dies, I will be the Countess of Moray, 531 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: which was a title that she already felt belonged to 532 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: her because she was the eldest child, thank you very much, 533 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: who cares about gender? So she's like all his land 534 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: and property would come to me. So I'll watch happily 535 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 1: go ahead. And Salisbury was left looking really stupid because 536 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: he never planned to kill John. He couldn't. John was 537 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: a really important hostit so Agnes totally called his bluff 538 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: and he just had to like take the rope off 539 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: with John's neck and be like, okay, well back back 540 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: to prison with you, I guess, oh my god, embarrassing 541 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: him like getting so angry, he got tarred and feathered. 542 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: He goes up to grab the door knob and the 543 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: blowtoard hits him on that at yes, exactly, And I 544 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: like to think that John knew that Agnes was just 545 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: I hope he was standing like He's probably like a 546 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: bold strategy that a sister way to call his bluff, 547 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, call his bluff. That's what I 548 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: was doing. Well, So Agnes is still firmly in control 549 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: of Castle Dunbar and Salisbury is red as hell in 550 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: the face. But he did come up with a new strategy, 551 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: and that was just to starve her out. We will 552 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: find out how successful he was right after this break. 553 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back Millard's and ladies. So to catch us up, 554 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: Salisbury had shown up at Dunbar in January. His boulders 555 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: had been returned to him, his bribe were unsuccessful, and 556 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: his attempt to murder her family was just laughed at. Well, 557 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: now it was summertime and Salisbury knew the Agnes and 558 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: her people were already rationing their food and water, so 559 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: he decided to set up a blockade and starve her 560 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: out of the castle. With his twenty thousand men, he 561 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: cut off all the roads and he paid Genoise galleys 562 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: to block the ports so no support could come in 563 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: from the sea, and then he cut off all communication 564 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: with the outside world. Damn, so she can call for help. 565 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: He cut the phone lines, blocked out the satellites. It 566 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: really looked like Agnes's goose was truly cooked this time. 567 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: But fortunately for her, Patrick's old friend, Sir Alexander Ramsey 568 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: learned about agnes Is entrapment and he never wasted an 569 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to scur around with these British eddiotts. So he 570 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: left Edinburgh and approached the castle under the cover of 571 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: night with forty of his best guys who were ready 572 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: for a fight. And he also snuck in food for 573 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: the people of Dunbar. So the next day Salisbury was 574 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: twice surprised. First when Agnes sent him a freshly baked 575 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: loaf of bread to show him she had provisions to 576 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: last all summer. She had to trolling that she is 577 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: doing all sandwitches. He loved a bit pickish out here. 578 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: I love like she would do killer on Twitter if 579 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 1: she'd be roasting constantly such a poster and say, I 580 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: mean seriously. So Salesbury's like, oh, he like rips up 581 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: the bread and he decides to strike quickly before Agnes 582 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: and her people get to you know, fed up and 583 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: strong again. So he launched a fresh assault on the castle, 584 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: and that's when he was surprised for the second time 585 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: as Ramsey and his hardened Scott's veterans came running out 586 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: of the castle and easily pushed this giant army all 587 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: the way back to their w This is like a 588 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: artist situation where they had like three hundred dudes. They 589 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: had even less than that, and they still were like, ah, 590 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 1: we gotta get out of it. So Agnes had held 591 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: the castle on her own for five months and Salisbury 592 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: was a laughing stock. His seed had cost the English 593 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: crown six thousand pounds and had gotten them nowhere. They 594 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: had gotten nothing. They got a worse reputation. I mean basically, 595 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: I feel like how how many Scots were like super 596 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: emboldened by the story, you know, like, Okay, all you 597 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: gotta do is play with their dignity defeat themselves. So 598 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: Salisbury was forced to admit defeat. He lifted the seed 599 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 1: and left for England on June tenth. Now, eventually, thanks 600 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: to his hundred years War with France and the Black 601 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: Plague hitting England pretty hard, Edward the Third had to 602 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: negotiate a truce with Scotland had too much other ship 603 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: going on, so the Treaty of Berwick was signed in seven. 604 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: So partly in thanks to this badass very literally holding 605 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: down the fort, the Scots got their independence and Agnes 606 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: became a legend. There was even a ballad written about 607 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: her from silly Salisbury's point of view. So let's go 608 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: down or three corner and here as she makes a 609 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: stir and tower and trench, that brawling, boisterous Scottish wench came, 610 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: I Arlie came, I late. I found Agnes at the gate. Amazing. 611 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: He's like I showed up early in the morning. You 612 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: know at night that bitch was standing there. When the 613 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: bards write songs about you, this isn't what you want 614 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: from Salisbury, I know, okay, Well they wrote songs about me, 615 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: talking about what loser I was. Well. Patrick Dunbar would 616 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 1: continue to fight the British until that treaty in thirteen 617 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: fifty seven, and he fought alongside John Randolph until he 618 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: was killed in the Battle of Neville's Cross, and that 619 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 1: meant that his title reverted to the crown. Because he 620 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: had no children, but Agnes didn't agree. She just started 621 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: using the title Countess of Moray and no one dared 622 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: to question her about it. That's right, Like she's she 623 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: already thought it was her. Even her husband Patrick Dunbar 624 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: started using it and he's like, I'm the Count of 625 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: more thanks to my wife. Now. Eventually the title went 626 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: to her nephew. When the Treaty of Berwick was being 627 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: discussed and the war in thirteen fifty seven, Patrick was 628 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: one of the lords who went along to discuss the 629 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: release of King David the Second from the English prison 630 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: he was in. Remember that was the toddler who was 631 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: crowned king and Patrick was the regent for him, that's right. 632 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: And then as he was growing up, he spent a 633 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: lot of time in exile in France, and he joined 634 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: the war and then he captured you know, it's like 635 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: a whole thing with King David the Second and Patrick 636 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: ended up being a hostage that England kept us collateral 637 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: until King David the Seconds ransom was paid, but Patrick 638 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: wasn't kept under lock and key, so after the first 639 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: payment was made, he just went on his merry way, 640 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: which turns out to be maybe a bad idea because 641 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: King David never did pay his whole rant. He embezzled 642 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: a lot of money from the Scottish tech payers in 643 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: order to do so. It made him very unpopular, but 644 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: he never actually did finish paying off well. Agnes and 645 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: Patrick ended up having no children together, but they did 646 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: have Award, who was probably Agnes's sister's daughter, her niece 647 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: uh and her name was also Agnes Dunbar. She would 648 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: become the mistress of King David the second. So they 649 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: kept it in the family because they like they do 650 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: they like they get papal dispensations to do. Agnes died 651 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: in and Patrick died just a few months later. Now 652 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: I found this story, I guess probably a couple of 653 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: weeks ago or something, and I was so into it 654 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: because I was just like, this lady is such a 655 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 1: ship poster, basically, like she's so funny, it's just hilarious. 656 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to do this story. 657 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: And Eli told me not to do it because he 658 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: thinks it's not a ridiculous romance because it's just about 659 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: like this wife. Sometimes we stretch into I would say, 660 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: particularly women's history, because these stories are so interesting and 661 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: typically untold. So during our research. Sometimes we come across 662 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: one and we're like, we gotta do this episode. How 663 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: can we wedge it into being a story about a relationship. 664 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: But mainly because like, especially in medieval times, they didn't 665 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: write about women, you know what I mean, Like the 666 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: most you ever got recorded was if you had a 667 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: baby or not, and even if when you died, they 668 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: didn't bother to write it down. You know. It's just 669 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: like your life and accomplishments and the things you do 670 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: don't matter to anybody. They don't matter for posterity the 671 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: way men's actions do or whatever. So I think it 672 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: is really important when a wife eclipses her husband, I 673 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: guess because it's so unusual. If there's not a man 674 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: in the story, how am I supposed to relate? No, 675 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: I've come around since we read it and started doing it. 676 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: But next time I'm going to do a story just 677 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: about a husband eclipsing his wife. Oh it'll be so 678 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: hard to find a story about that. Oh my god. 679 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: And liken us but the unknown George Washington, Yeah, Washington, 680 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I just think about it, guys more famous. 681 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we've done it, George Lucas, you know, like 682 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: you've seen it happen. Marcia deserved that episode, damn it well. 683 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 1: And I think we even talked about this when we 684 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: were talking about doing this show at all, because I 685 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: was like, I think it's really narrow to have to 686 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: do couples, like to have to do people who were together, 687 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: because a lot of women only succeeded because they were 688 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 1: able to get away from their husbands or not get 689 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: married or live you know what I mean. A lot 690 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: of a lot of the episodes we have done have 691 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: been very much about, you know, these partnerships between two people, 692 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,319 Speaker 1: not even always a man and a woman, but where 693 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: one person who's who's not the sis mail in that 694 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,799 Speaker 1: partnership doesn't really get the attention that they deserve in history, right, Um, 695 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: And that's led to some really cool episodes for us. Yeah. 696 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: I think that's kind kind of what opened me up 697 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: or whatever when we started sort of making our giant 698 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: list of possible subjects and I was like, actually, people 699 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: have been fucking for a long time, exactly exactly, So, Um, 700 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: there's so much history that you can cover through the 701 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: lens of a couple or an affair or whatever, as 702 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: we have done. But I think this is just one 703 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: of those. To me, I think it's yeah, I mean, 704 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: and honestly, after we read through it, that's I mean, yes, 705 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: that's what I think too. Yeah. Well, whatever we think 706 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: or whatever you think, we're really excited to tell this 707 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: story of Agnes of Dunbar, one of the few women 708 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: in history who eclipsed her husband by being sassy and 709 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: defiance and trolling the ship at some English dude. She's 710 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: incredible and totally like hitting him in the face. The 711 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: paint can hilarious metaphorical Scottish paint can I'm glad paint, 712 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, like in the cartoons, and it was already 713 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: patterned paint and paint all over our Salsbury. I wonder 714 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: if it's still standing Castle Dunbar, because I would love 715 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: to go see it. I feel like it must be right. 716 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: Who could bring it down? Fortress was a long ast 717 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: time ago, so who knows. Hey, Scottish friends, you have 718 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 1: two things to tell us. One our accents offensive to too. 719 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: Is Castle Dunbar still round? Um? Well, I hate to 720 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: tell you, is it not. There's some ruins? Okay, yeah, 721 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: I thought so, it's it. That's the long ast time ago. Yeah, 722 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: the last of the castle was damaged in fifteen sixty seven, 723 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 1: apparently deliberately to reduce its value as a military target. 724 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: So probably very similar to what Edward the Third was 725 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: trying to do when he was like, don't bring it 726 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: down so it can't be used against me. Yeah, she 727 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: had a long run the fifteen sixties. That's longer than that, 728 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: older than America, I know, but even longer than that 729 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 1: because Patrick's mom defended it, so it was already standing. Yeah, 730 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: it was built in the seventh century. Oh wow, yeah, well, 731 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: thank you so much for tuning in today, y'all. Yes, 732 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: let us know what you think about Agnes of Dunbar 733 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: and Patrick and this whole story. Um, I hope you 734 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: loved it as much as we did. You can reach 735 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: us through emails at ridic Romance at gmail dot com. 736 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: That's right. You can find us on Twitter and Instagram. 737 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm at Oh great, it's Eli. I'm at Danamite Boom 738 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: and the show is at ridict Romance and you can 739 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: find us on TikTok at Ridiculous Romance. Thanks so much 740 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: for tuning in. 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