1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: My guest is Denim Richards. He stars in one of 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: my favorite show. He's characters Kobe when the hit TV 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: series Yellowstone on the Paramount Network. Now, if you don't 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: know about real Stone, you really, really really just stop. 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: Don't even look at my show. Don't look at my show. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: This is how much I'm so excited about this interview. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Actor Denim Richards has been performing for over two decades, 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: with twenty plus musical theater productions as well as numerous 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: TV and film credits under his belt. He's also an 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: author producer in Philanthropists. He's only sure to talk about 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: his character of Kobe, which has been the fan reacting, 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: also the fan reactions to the show Cobe, especially when 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: he got that love interest and we can expect to 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: see in this upcoming season. Plus discussed his career overall 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: acting and what he's doing and moving forward writing, directing, 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: and his production company Please work with the Money Making 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: Conversation master Class. Denim Richards, Hello, thank you so much 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: for having me. I'm super excited to be here and 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: cover the water with you. Well, first of all, I 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: thank you for taking the time to come on the show. 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Before we get into Yellowstone, just let's a little bit 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: back about your journey, because it says you've been over 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: two decades and in this industry. You know, I'll be 24 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: honest with you. I'm watching you on a Yellowstone. I 25 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: didn't know you'd be involved in the musical. So you're 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: telling me you can sing? Yes, Yes. I started in 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: theater first, and then I spent a lot of time 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: doing that, just learning and cultivating. Um. And then as 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I got older and started with plays, and then the 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: place turned into music thales and I really caught the 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: kind of the theater bug for a while. And uh, 32 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: after that, it was this is just what we did. 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: And so I just went from one musical together. Um, 34 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: I thought that I was just gonna making calear out 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: of that. But apparently the challenge wasn't enough. To say, 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: then to get into television film, which was far more challenging, 37 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: it took a lot longer to get into it. But nonetheless, yeah, 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: it was. It was a great experience when I was 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: doing it. Now, let's talk about where are you from originally, 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: and then also what did you go to launch your 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: your career in entertainment. So I grew up in Orange County, California, 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: which is like forty minutes south of Los Angeles. UM, 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: and I kind of I started in school, um, and 44 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: so it was something that it was, you know, one 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: of the kind of the arts opportunities that they that 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: was there. And you know, when I was probably in kindergarten, 47 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, they we always do these like small little 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: like school families uh and um, you know, we would 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: I think we had like one time where it was 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: our time to perform and I was told just to 51 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: stand there with the sign don't do anything crazy. Uh. 52 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: And then when I saw like the k through eight 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: kids coming in and the teachers and the principles and 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: the parents, I was like, well, this this looks like 55 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: this is my time to shine and um. You know, 56 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: so I got up and didn't. I did a little 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: bit more than uh than just standing there all in 58 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: the side and made everyone laugh. My teacher didn't. UM. 59 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: But then after that they there was a big performance 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna be coming up and it was like 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: maybe like three or six hundred people. I can't really 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: remember now, but they had asked my parents, you know, 63 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: do you think that Den would want to sing um? 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: You know in this uh, in this arboretum type of situation, 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: and there I was like, yeah, and I loved it 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: because I can get out of class um. And so 67 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: I did that. And then that's kind of just the 68 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: way that it started. And you know, I slowly was 69 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: pursuing it um. And then you know, towards my teenage years, 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I just want to you know, 71 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: play basketball, play football, you know, hang out with my friends. 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: But I was never able to truly get away from 73 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: from the arts. Uh. And then I finally I think 74 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: I just like gave myself over to it when I 75 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: was about sixteen. Well, you know, it's interesting because you know, 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: when you are trying to find your place in life, 77 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, you change around with your friends, and then 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: when your friends don't do what you do and can 79 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: kind of make you feel uncomfortable. And so that's an 80 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: uncomfortable especially in the arts, because people don't really see 81 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: that as something physical, is something that they can participate in. 82 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: And also they can also say, oh, man, you never 83 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: be this, You'll never be that person, So how did 84 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: you at that young age? So you know, some I 85 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: believe I can't be that person and ignore their thoughts 86 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: even though they were just your friends, they were your friends. Right. No, 87 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: that's a it's a great, great question. I think it's 88 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: important for everyone. We talked about this, so I talked 89 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: about this all the time. Um. You know, a lot 90 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: of us become very defined by our circumstances, and we 91 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: allow ourselves to be defined by the people that are 92 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: around us, and so that can be really hard because 93 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: sometimes the friends or even family members can kind of 94 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: be your like the trap to your downfall. And so 95 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: it was something for me that I just I knew 96 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: that I was born and created for a specific purpose. 97 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: I always felt the desire for the arts. UM. I 98 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: always knew that there was something special. UM that wasn't 99 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: you know. When I was younger, I wasn't quite certain 100 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: about what that was. UM. But as I've gotten older 101 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: and have cultivated a little bit more, UM, I just 102 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: realized that it was just a lot of self belief. 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: You know, when you're younger, you don't know any better, 104 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: so you don't know that you can fail. Um, So 105 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: you just kind of go into it. And then of 106 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: course when you start to become of age and it's 107 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: like your money on the line and you know, rent 108 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: has to be paid and all these other things, then 109 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: you do sing around and go like, man, maybe everybody 110 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: was right, maybe I should maybe I shouldn't be doing that. 111 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: But you kind of get to a point where you 112 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: just say, what would happen if I just went all in? 113 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: And I think for many of us, we have these 114 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: dreams or these desires, bulls, dreams and aspirations, and we 115 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: kind of like tiptoe our way into it, and then 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: we wonder why we're never getting fully submerged in the opportunity. 117 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: It's like, well, because you're just trying to dip one 118 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: till at a time. There's got to be a certain 119 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: point where you just say, screw it, let's just dive 120 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: in and see what happened. We'll be right back with 121 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's 122 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. When 123 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: when when you say boring in Orange County, which is 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: for the means outside the l A, which is entertainment 125 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: capital Worlydia's Hollywood. But do you also say that we're 126 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: musical now? You don't think musical in Hollywood, the musical 127 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: on West Coast? How did we get to musicals? Now? 128 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: Then talk about that, Well, I would have loved to 129 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: have started on Broadway, but no, Um, I was at 130 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: a performing arts kind of school. In the regard of 131 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: they had a lot of different performers that would come 132 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: to the school and they did this kind of these 133 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: two performances that were these massive global performances called The 134 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: Glory of Christmas and the Glory of Easter. And I 135 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: was able to be a part of these shows at 136 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: a very early age. And so because of this, they 137 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: had these global artists that were always coming in for 138 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: people that were doing opera UM from gospel to you know, 139 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: you name it, that we're part of this in ballet 140 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: and New York Ballet whatever. And so some of them 141 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: took me under their wing and said, you know, UM, 142 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: we're kind of in and around Los Angeles and if 143 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: you ever want to train, you know further, there's a 144 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: lot of different areas to do out of musical theater 145 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: and training in this uh this down the third UM. 146 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: So I did a lot of my training in like 147 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: the Redondo Beach area, which is maybe fifteen minutes from 148 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. UM and UH, I got a lot of 149 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: my training there where I just I joined the conservatory 150 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: when I was sixteen and I was with this conservatory 151 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: from about sixteen to maybe twenty and um, I got 152 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: a lot of musical theater training. Um. There we did 153 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: a lot of different performances, a lot of private performances. 154 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: You know. They were the reason why I got paid 155 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: first to sing at you know, some events, and so 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: I really got a lot of training there, which was 157 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: just that was absolutely amazing for me because the high 158 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: school that I was going to at the time didn't 159 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: allow for that. So that's how I got my start. Now, 160 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: Kobe apologize Now then I'm Kobe, the character Kobe yes 161 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: on the show. Now we talked about, well you came 162 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: from you didn't come from Montanny. You know. I was 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: born to raised in Texas. So if you if I 164 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: got an active role on a you know, in a western, 165 00:07:58,280 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: because it is this is a rest and I would 166 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: get anybody says Yellowstone is a Western him by the 167 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: brilliant Kevin Costa. I'll tell some about me and Kevin Costa. 168 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: Don't know the young man. But every time Open Range 169 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: comes on, I stopped and watching. I will watch that 170 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: movie as one of the all time favorite Kevin Costa movies. 171 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: How did that opportunity come to you because I see 172 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: two decades of musical I don't see I was, I 173 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: was on, I was riding hardshes, I was trading. How 174 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: does that come to you? Mr? Black Man. So I 175 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: was doing a movie called Mom for Chickasaw Rancher which 176 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: is out on Netflix now UM at the time, and 177 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: it was a period piece UM from the eighteen sixties. Uh. 178 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: And I was playing a real life character U called 179 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Jack Brown who became open for share Propper And that 180 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: was that was my first UM co starring feature film 181 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: that I was a part of. UM. So I was 182 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: super excited. And one of the actors that I had 183 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: UM probably my most intense scene with his name is 184 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: Tommy Flanagan and he was on Sons of Anarchy with 185 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: with Taylor Sheridan and John Linson was also one of 186 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: the creators and executive producers of Sons of Anarchy. And 187 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: so after we had finished like our scene and we're 188 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of getting into more of our lighter work UM, 189 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: I was sitting in the van UM with Tommy and 190 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: he was like, man, you know you got a lot 191 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: of talent. Uh. You know, my best friend is actually 192 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: getting ready to produce this new show called Yellowstone. It's 193 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: a Western. Kevin Costner's executive producing it, and you just 194 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: got to you gotta get a part of it. And 195 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, great, just sounds like an opportunity. UM. 196 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: So I called my team, my team, I told him. 197 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, there's this apparently this amazing opportunity 198 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Costner to share it in. Um it's a Western, Like, 199 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: what can we do? It's a TV series. So they 200 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: looked around. They said, we well, we can't really find anything. 201 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: I was like, well, it has to be there. So 202 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: they got maybe two three weeks later they found out 203 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: like John Paps and Darius is a casting director here 204 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Um got I got an audition. Twenty 205 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: four hours later, I was in a producer session with 206 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: John Lynson, John Paxson, Derrison, Taylor Sheridan on on Skype 207 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: who has everybody knows Taylor Sheridan's the showrunner, UM and writer, 208 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: director and kind of discreative don't get actor uh yeah 209 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: and also actor as Travis that's on the show. Um 210 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: and so yeah, and then you know he just conn 211 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: was breaking down what the show was going to be 212 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: talking about, you know how excited we were to have 213 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: Kevin uh doing this television series. And I didn't know 214 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: that Kevin was going to be an acting on the show. 215 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: I thought he was just executive producing it. So I 216 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: already really wanted to be a part of the show. 217 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: But then when I found out that he was gonna 218 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: be on and I was like, I don't know what 219 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: we have to do, but I gotta get on this show. Uh. 220 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: And so it took about six weeks uh me being 221 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: on pins and needles and rejecting every phone call that 222 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I got from my revs until they gave me the 223 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: good news to be a part of the show. So 224 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: where were you steps on that? Because of course, you know, 225 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: let's be honest in life, you know, necessarily there's no 226 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: need to cast an African American character on a western 227 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: or setting and where it said at you know what 228 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But what did you do are that made 229 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: them feel that, hey, this character feels comfortable if the 230 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: character will work? And also I love the fact that 231 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, somebody told you you were talented and you 232 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: should be a part of that. And I know that's 233 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: very important in this business because there are more down 234 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: moments and sometimes when you're down, you need somebody to 235 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: remind you that you have that special gift. Let's talk 236 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: about that inspirational moment that I cannot ignore that was 237 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: given to you and then you were inspired to pursue 238 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: this knowing typically a person that looks like you wouldn't 239 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: get cast in it. You know, it's a it's a 240 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: great point, you know, and you you raise a lot 241 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: of UM, really true and deep kind of topics of conversation. 242 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest things that you have 243 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: to be able to do UM in this industry and 244 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: just life in general. Right, UM, as a man of color, 245 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: you have kind of two ways that you can approach everything. 246 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: You can approach everything with this awareness of the what 247 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: you look like, and you can spend all of your 248 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: time in every room that you're going that you go 249 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: into UM identifying how everybody is receiving you. And we 250 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: we do that every time that we walk out. We 251 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: were kind of started at a very young age where 252 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: every time we walk into a space, we immediately identify 253 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: how many people are there that look like us and 254 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: how many people are not. And if we stick kind 255 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: of get wrapped up in that the whole time. I 256 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: think we sometimes will miss out on certain opportunities because 257 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: not everybody all the time is also thinking about that. 258 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that I really wanted 259 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: to do towards the course of my career, and especially 260 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: once I walked in to the to the Yellowstone World, 261 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: I was blessed because I was just doing a show 262 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: where I was playing uh an African America, a can 263 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: cowboy who really lived and breathed um and existed, and 264 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: I got to meet his great great grandchildren, and it 265 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: really put a seat in me so that by the 266 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: time it came for this opportunity, and I was one 267 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: of the only African Americans that were they're auditioning for it. 268 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: In general, I didn't want to enter into it thinking 269 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: that I wanted to enter into it thinking my ancestors 270 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: came before me, and they laid this groundwork, and now 271 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: this is the time for me to kind of be 272 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: able to honor them. And if I can just show 273 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: the real truth of that, um, I think that I 274 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: have a really good shot. So for me, it was 275 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: really just trying to do away with me. I'm not 276 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna get this because I'm the only black person in 277 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: this audition room. I'm not gonna have a chance because 278 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's a Western and they're not gonna be that. 279 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: And then the reality of it is, you know, half 280 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: the time, they just want to know if you can 281 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: do the job. Um, and so if you can come 282 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: in and be honest about what it is that you're 283 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: doing and your performance is proper and you're dedicated to 284 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: what you're doing, I think you're gonna like your your chances. Well, well, congratulations, 285 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: I love your chances. I love your personality. I'm talking 286 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: to Dnim Richards. He's one of the starts on the 287 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: hit TV series A Yellowstone. He plays the character Kobe. Um. 288 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of the backlash when characters have 289 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: been cast what they assumed they should be white and 290 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: they were black on House of Dragons and you know, 291 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: uh the HBCU, HBCU, HBO or Max series, uh Lord 292 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: of the Rings, how they tremendous blacklash. And so I 293 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: say that because when the love interests was pitched to you, uh, 294 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: by the way, I loved that Kobe. I I I 295 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: loved it, man. I couldn't get enough for that relationship. 296 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: In fact, I wanted to I want to see more 297 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: of that relationship. But when it was pitched to you, 298 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, again, you're the only black character on this show. 299 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: Now they don't make it. They don't. The one thing 300 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: I love about The yellow Stone is that they don't 301 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: make that an issue. You one of the couples, You 302 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: just one of the one of the guys work that. 303 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: That's why I think it works for me specially, you know. 304 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: But then they bring his love interest on it, and 305 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: she's an annoying character, and you playoff that it was 306 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: somebody you would never have any interests in. Talk about 307 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: how you know Taylor came to you with this idea, 308 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: because that's what they do with the show. They tell 309 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: you so you can be don't be surprised about it. 310 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: And then how did the public react to? Great question? 311 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: So we were finishing season two and I think Taylor, 312 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: we were doing something. Taylor's like, hey, I gotta show 313 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: you something and started laughing, and he pulls up this 314 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: video of Jen Landon, who plays Teeter, and he's like, 315 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: you don't love this, You're gonna love this. So he's 316 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: playing me her audition tape and he starts and I'm 317 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: just I'm looking at the tape or looking at his 318 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: phone and looking at him and he's just cracking up. 319 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: And then at the end he's like, man, isn't that crazy? 320 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, uh So, Taylor was like, this 321 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: is really good, but aren't you supposed to be able 322 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: to understand what she said? So you started dying. He's 323 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: that's the whole point. You're just not supposed to be 324 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: able to understand anything. And she said, so she's gonna 325 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: come on, She's gonna screw with you. She's gonna be great. 326 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, like I've never it was 327 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: the first time I've ever been a part of a 328 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: show or heard of a show where you just don't 329 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: understand the other artists. Uh So she came on when 330 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: I when I first got introduced to Jen Landon, uh 331 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, we got to sit and talk and just 332 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of you know, catch her up with, you know, 333 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: just the old Stone world because it's such a different 334 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: world and she's done so many different uh television shows 335 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: and movies. So she's a phenomenal, phenomenal talent, and she 336 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: just came in and she fully embraced Teeter. So whenever 337 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: we get to play together, it is so fun because, 338 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: as you were saying, Colby's character is a little bit 339 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: more buttoned up, a little bit more square, if you will. 340 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: So now having somebody like Jen's character or Teeter come 341 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: into the play who is a little bit unraveled, I 342 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: think it plays very well. But the audience, you know, 343 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: they really received it because again Taylor doesn't play type 344 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: UM as much. He plays the world. He plays the universe. 345 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: And you know, if you happen to be black um, 346 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, doing that, then that's just what it is. 347 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: And I think that the audience overall um has really 348 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: embraced it. And I don't think, to my knowledge, it's 349 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,239 Speaker 1: ever been something that they're like, well, that doesn't really 350 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: make sense for us, And that doesn't I think, because 351 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: we're both living the truth of it, we're not leaving 352 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: the room for that. We'll be right back with more 353 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return 354 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Well, you know, 355 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: I love the way there was the relationship was introduced 356 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: to their romance. You know, that violent attack that happened, 357 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: and I love the Lane said when she got kicked 358 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: in the hay and she was about did you have 359 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: to admit that you like me after I looked like this. 360 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: It was such a great line we say we say 361 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: all the time when everybody asked us, like how do 362 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: we feel about our love, and it said we trauma 363 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: bond it right, like necessarily the healthiest relationship. However, it's 364 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: a relationship, I guess. Nonetheless, Well, you do a great 365 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: job on the show, but the yellow Stones only part 366 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: of your life. We talked about the past. We talked 367 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: about this very successful series it's premiering this amounth on 368 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: Paramount Network. But also I'm going through your bio and 369 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: it's something they called my eye this uh. This just 370 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: a short film that you're directed and co wrote called 371 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: the Zoo, which is uh. And I was like, wow, 372 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: this is you know, tell us about it so I 373 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: don't want to mess it up. But I thought it 374 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: was really really cool said to World War two about 375 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: a black German uh and and how they caught up 376 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: in that whole Holocaust experience from a black experience talk 377 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: to us. Yes, um, it was something again I think 378 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: when we were talking earlier, I was speaking to you 379 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: about how I didn't know exactly what my full potential 380 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: or my gifts would be. When I was younger, I 381 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: just knew that at a certain point, uh, there's gonna 382 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: be other things that would reveal itself. And as I've 383 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: gotten older, I've realized that, you know the most, I 384 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: has given me a very unique opportunity, and I wanted 385 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: to make sure that I used my platform to tell 386 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: our stories, uh in a full range of ways. And 387 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: one of the great things about our history is we're 388 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: been a part of every single significant period of time, 389 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of us don't understand that because we're 390 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: not really taught that in school. We don't, you know, 391 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: as you would know. You know, a lot of our 392 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: education kind of comes from you know, we got off 393 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: the slave ships in sixteen nineteen, and then we were slaves, 394 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: and then then we were shot, and then now you're 395 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: entertaining us and you play sports, and that's kind of 396 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: like that's it, right, Like that's kind of the you're 397 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: reading my mind. I'll say that all the time they 398 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: brought us over, they freed us, and then they jumped 399 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: to ninety four bro versus board education civil rights leader 400 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King, he gets shot and all of a 401 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: sudden we entertained. Even so, you know, so it was 402 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: one of those things where I said, you know what, 403 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: why don't we start to really educate. And I'm a 404 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: really big historian, so I'm very big on our our, 405 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: our African history. Um I spent a lot of a 406 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: lot of time there. I lived there actually, and um 407 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: so a couple of years ago. Actually it was a 408 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: decade ago. I was watching a movie and I was 409 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: just talking about history, and I was wondering. I was like, 410 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: what was going on in Africa, um in this time 411 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: of you know, World War two? And uh So I 412 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: started getting into a lot of really really deep research, 413 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: which again, uh if you were an African American or 414 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: anywhere in the diaspora, you're not really taught anything about 415 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: Africa in the history of Africa. Uh So, I think 416 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: that's something that I wanted to tap into it. I 417 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: think spiritually it was just the right time to get 418 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: those seeds planted in me a long time ago. And 419 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: so one of the things that I realized was that 420 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: in you know, during this time there was in Congo 421 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: was the Belgian cong at the time where King Leopold 422 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: wrote these letters to the missionaries and he was talking 423 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: about how they were going to bring um the gospel 424 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: of certain things to the country in order to help 425 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of enslave and take over the rubber and that 426 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: was ultimately was going to be building the country of 427 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Belgium and was helping with the wars because it was 428 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: it was rubber. So that's used for literally everything at 429 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: the time, from electricity, cables, two tires to you name it. 430 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: And so there was a massive concentration camp in massive 431 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: killing of like I think it was fifteen to twenty 432 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: five million Congolese men, women and children that were murdered 433 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: that the world still does not consider a genocide for 434 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: a myriad of reasons, which I think is just completely unacceptable. However, 435 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: at that time, what I wanted to do was say, 436 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: let's let's write a story about this called the Zoo. 437 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: And so The Zoo is about the Germans coming into 438 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: Africa and in their attempt to try to colonize Africa, 439 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: they couldn't figure out why they were not able to 440 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: to stand up to the heat. Um there's different conditions, 441 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: just weather conditions that they were just always getting sick from. 442 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that they would do 443 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: is that they would capture us and they would do 444 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: all these experiments on us, promoting our skin, injecting us 445 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: with different things, because they were trying to figure out 446 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: how they could connect, uh, crack this genetic code that 447 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: we have in our melanin to figure out how it 448 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: is that we're able to survive under these types of 449 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: conditions that are so greatly different than it is in 450 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: north in the North, right in Germany. Uh. And so 451 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: that was something that was really really passionate for me, 452 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: and I I brought some people that were really close 453 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: to me together and we talked about the idea. They 454 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: were like, yeah, we've never seen this before, let's do it. 455 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: We found a couple of books that we did, we 456 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: got the rights to to be able to start telling 457 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: this story. And then oddly enough, two years ago Germany 458 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: came out with to the Namibian government and Namibia, for 459 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: those that just might not know, is in Substaran Africa. 460 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: It's like the northeast or northwest from South Africa. Uh. 461 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: And they have a content or an island right off 462 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: of it called Shark Island. And Germany now is having 463 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: to pay like ten billion dollars to the Maybia for 464 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: the genocide that they caused in the country between the 465 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: maybe and Blatanta and so that was something that was 466 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: really important for me in a story that I think 467 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: our people needed to hear. I'll tell you some Uh. 468 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for coming on my show. 469 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: I want to bring you back. You know. I know 470 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: you're busy because I've read the book Mastering Your Mind 471 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: and the proceeds that go to UH eradicating Human Trafficking, 472 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: and that's that's a separate interview, and I want to 473 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: be respectful over your time because I want to let 474 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: you know that I read it and I want to 475 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: just do an interview about that and also other things 476 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: you do in your career, because I know that the 477 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: zoo can that's a show in yourself, that conversation because 478 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: then the fact that you hit right the same timeline 479 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: how they treat black people's history. We are we are brothers, okay, 480 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: because I tell it, I tell the same story man, 481 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: and when you when you when you talk about and 482 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: I want to tell people, I really happy because white 483 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: kids don't White people don't want their white kids to 484 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. Well, we feel uncomfortable every time we're walking 485 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: a room. But that's not what this interview is about. 486 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: The interview is about the talented young man that it's 487 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: starting on a very very successful show. I don't see color. 488 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: I just see a great act or a great talent, 489 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: and I want to wish you good luck and thank 490 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: you for coming on my show, Denim Richards. I really 491 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: appreciate that, and uh, I would love to come back 492 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: and you know, discuss the water fright. I think the 493 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: great thing about what you know, what I'm able to 494 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: do is, you know, I really want to be able 495 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: to use the platform to talk about, you know, things 496 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: that are important to us as well. So you know, 497 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: any time that you want to do that, I'm more 498 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: than happy to make it well. You will be hearing 499 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: from it, because, like I said, you're a special guy man, 500 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: and I just just just a just in general. But 501 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: I just see a good human being, and I think 502 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: that's important as we as we as I as I 503 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: bring people on this show, that you can still be 504 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: a good human and be successful too. Yes, you sure 505 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: can't thank you so much for having we talked to 506 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, sir.