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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I want to go back to October twenty

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Speaker 1: sixth of twenty twenty one, when I had an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to talk to Tom Brady and I asked him about

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Speaker 1: retiring and family, and I mentioned when I left ESPN,

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Speaker 1: I left and I think of his fifty at the time.

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Speaker 1: But part of that was I had four kids who

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Speaker 1: were nine through fifteen, and my wife said, they're going

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Speaker 1: to all be out of the house by the time

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Speaker 1: you've done with this next ESPN contract that I turned

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Speaker 1: down a five year contract, and I brought that up

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Speaker 1: to Brady and he had this to say, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a very difficult issue to reconcile without just saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's time to retire. And I think there's you know,

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Speaker 1: we're coming to the end here too, so I don't

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Speaker 1: want to miss any of the kids' stuff. And I

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Speaker 1: think at the same time, there's a lot of parents

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Speaker 1: who get two or three weeks off a year that

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Speaker 1: you know, they work real jobs and real lives, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I get a lot of time off actually,

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Speaker 1: and I there's a big part of my life. You guys,

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Speaker 1: probably when you're running your shows. You don't get a

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Speaker 1: lot of time off football players. We get a good,

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Speaker 1: healthy offseason, and I try to do my best with

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Speaker 1: the kids, although I wish I was there more, but

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Speaker 1: I think if I was there too much, you know,

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Speaker 1: they might be sick and tired of me screwing up

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Speaker 1: everything that's been going on in the house for a

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Speaker 1: long time too. So I've heard that argument on the

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Speaker 1: other side as well. So I think it's a little

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Speaker 1: teeter totter from time to time, and I'm trying, like

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Speaker 1: all of us, to do the best we could do,

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Speaker 1: you know, based on you know, the circumstances. That's the

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Speaker 1: Let's Go podcast with jam Gray Larry Fitzgerald. Let's bring

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Speaker 1: in Hellelong the Hall of Famer. I think you retired.

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Speaker 1: It's thirty three, Howie, does that sound right? I played

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Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl of thirty four, so yeah, the

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Speaker 1: season was thirty three. But you know, do you do

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Speaker 1: you have a day where you go, hey, this is

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Speaker 1: you have a moment love clarity where you go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's it, I'm going to retire. Well, my problem was

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Speaker 1: in terms of family, had three sons was eight at

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Speaker 1: the time. And with football, you just particularly at that

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Speaker 1: point where I played thirteen years and not a dollar

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Speaker 1: towards double digits in surgeries, you know, that's one part

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Speaker 1: Chris is eight years old and I'm not there for

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Speaker 1: Burger Day. I'm not there for you know, dad Day.

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Speaker 1: And I seriously wanted to change that given my background.

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Speaker 1: I wanted my father son relationship with my three boys

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Speaker 1: to be to be different. And you know, I never regretted.

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Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to coach little league baseball for

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Speaker 1: eight years, high school football for eight years, watched them

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Speaker 1: all kind of go on their way to college, and

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Speaker 1: like you said, you know, your situation was kind of similar,

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Speaker 1: where you know, wait a second, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: This is going to be over, you know, before you

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Speaker 1: know it. And I'm glad I did it. I really am.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't want anybody to retire. If

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Speaker 1: you want to play, continue to play, you know, unless

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Speaker 1: you your body says you can't play any longer. But

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Speaker 1: what do you think is that the core of this

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Speaker 1: with Brady. He wants to win championships. It's all about championships.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you do inventory with the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: still win another championship, then you start to factor in

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Speaker 1: with family. I think Giselle has been campaigning behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes for a while to have Tom retire here. So

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Speaker 1: how do you think this plays out? Well, I think

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Speaker 1: there are there are players who who are consumed and

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Speaker 1: then there's Tom. Tom's at another level and that's not

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Speaker 1: just you know August through January. That's the off season

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Speaker 1: and the kind of trick to it is and you know,

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, Tom m made a good point,

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Speaker 1: seven months, you're you're checked out, whether you've been it

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Speaker 1: Live team period. Now they're in hats and you know, physically,

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Speaker 1: I think players are capable playing longer because they're being

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Speaker 1: taken care of. All. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if

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Speaker 1: of the elite teams next year, given they got to

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Speaker 1: resign some people, salary, cappy issues, all of those things.

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the NFL addresses over time in the

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Speaker 1: off season. Usually takes, you know, a moment where we go,

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Speaker 1: I'm upset with overtime, and then we calmed down. But

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that, you know, Kansas City gets the ball,

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Speaker 1: Olie Fraser fifteen rounds. These two guys, you know, just

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Speaker 1: was a showcase of what I think is, you know,

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Speaker 1: we always wonder where the when's the next generation of

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Speaker 1: The knock on him was he was inaccurate. And it's

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Speaker 1: an interesting kind of exercises. How many teams would trade

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Speaker 1: How many teams would trade for Josh Allen. I don't

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Speaker 1: So how do you change overtime? Well, I think you

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Speaker 1: And I think it's something Andy brought up, and Andy

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Speaker 1: You know, people try to say all the right things

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Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo. Helly, you know that that he he

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Speaker 1: He doesn't lose. I don't think he wins. It's just

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Speaker 1: feels like I think Terry had one of those Yogi

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Speaker 1: He's under so much fire all the time. He's got

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Speaker 1: You just take the Green Bay for example. You know

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Speaker 1: all that's important. And Dan, it really doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: maybe my defense gotten enough rest now because we took

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Speaker 1: fifteen plays to get down the field, and maybe they're

427
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: not gassed and they can play. But I think you

428
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: get to overtime, close season, one possession guaranteed each. Yeah,

429
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it, but you know, we grew up

430
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: it was called sudden death overtime. It's like it used

431
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: to be called instant replay. Now it's called replay now,

432
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: it's not sudden death overtime. Everybody gets a possession, whatever

433
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: you do on that, and then after that it's sudden

434
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: death overtime. You okay with that? I am. You know,

435
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: things a change that have been rule changes in the game.

436
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: So the game that we grew up watching, it's not

437
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: the same. I mean, it's it's been tweaked again to

438
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: try to make the game more exciting. Offense, getting a

439
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 1: little bit better of an edge and all this. These

440
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: games are more high scoring than they were when we

441
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: grew up as kids. So yeah, I'm okay with it. Again,

442
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 1: it comes down to a whole season, and I'm not

443
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: taking any going away from Kansas again. I pitched for

444
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: them three years ago. It was awesome what they did,

445
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: but I just you think Josh Allen never really got

446
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: a chance to go down the field and do the

447
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: same thing because he probably would have taken them down

448
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: the field and scored. I mean it was how about

449
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: the last two minutes of regulation twenty five points then

450
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: another touchdown in the OT, I mean it was. It's

451
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: I'm still, like I said, still playing it on a

452
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: loop in my head. And I know the NFL is

453
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: in the entertainment business, and what would have been more

454
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: entertaining than Josh Allen getting another opportunity and you know,

455
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: you still have commercial inventor. I mean, come on, this

456
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: is a business here that we're running, and I think

457
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: you've got to factor that in as well. That's why

458
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, you have this audience now, all of a sudden,

459
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: we let Josh Allen come out and come back down

460
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: and maybe more commercial breaks. Let's go get a couple

461
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: more commercials in. Well. Listen, the reality is you have

462
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: a set number of commercials you know that's going in.

463
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: And once you've gone through your commercial it's not like

464
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: your salespeople are out the seven during the middle of

465
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: the game. Oh, they pick up the phone and see

466
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: if you want to buy a spot in extended place.

467
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: So no, you get your inventory and it stays at

468
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: that thing. But you said the NFL was in the

469
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: money making business. I've got the last fashion of profit

470
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: for them. To me, it's not those commercials that you

471
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: can't sell because you've already you've already maxed out your inventory. Somebody,

472
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: I can't believe no one's come up with this before.

473
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: Someone needs to sponsor the blue tent. It's unclaimed. It's

474
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: unclaimed territory. I can't believe it's gone this long. You know,

475
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: it's sitting there. How many times in a game. Do

476
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: you see pulled up the blue tent. There should be

477
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: some sort of sponsored element across that. I got it.

478
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 1: I got it too, Yeah, Viagra, the blue pill. BA

479
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: got it. I obviously think I knew you were going blue.

480
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be you're not talking anything

481
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: about how it suddenly just expands. No, no, no, no,

482
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: no no. I want to make sure. Hello friends, Hell,

483
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: let's go down to the big blue te Okay. No,

484
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: the thing is has got to be I think in

485
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: the healthcare industry. Yeah, blue Cross, who Shield, Blue Cross,

486
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: Blue Shield, And that's what it is. I mean, listen,

487
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: they're at Detroit based company. Would be perfect for them,

488
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: the Blue Cross, Blue Shield, blue ten. Okay, but that's

489
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: just sitting there. I'm clean. Mama would need more money.

490
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 1: Jim is calling the uh what do you have you have? Uh?

491
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: Tony with the Bengals in the Chiefs right to throw

492
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: three e stern On Sevings Okay, Yeah. The old AFC

493
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: Championship game back at Arrowhead? Yeah? Was that? Where's the

494
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Bills Chiefs game? Rank? Though? Of all of the games,

495
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: whether you watched or you called, I think because of

496
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: the last two minutes I'm gonna keep it to this sport.

497
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a better game. I had that New

498
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: England Kansas City game I mentioned before on that shortlist,

499
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: I had Indianapolis and New England in the O six

500
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: championship game when Peyton brought him back from eighteen down

501
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: on one thirty eight thirty four. I would say those

502
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: three games were the best NFL games I've ever seen.

503
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: Here we are at the end of January. We're a

504
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: couple of months away from Augusta, and I know people

505
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: have brought up Tiger could he play at Augusta. And

506
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: what people don't understand is how hilly Augusta is. I

507
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: get's not a flat It's one of the hillier courses

508
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: that you probably play on tour. I don't know if

509
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: Tiger could be able to do four days of that,

510
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: but you have any indication if Tiger is going to

511
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: be able to try to play an Augusta. The only

512
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: thing I hear is from the people that are closest

513
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: to him that have a voice in the game. A

514
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: few folks that are on the desk, for example the

515
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: Golf Channel, and they all have completely killed the idea

516
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: that he's going to be ready for a gust. I mean,

517
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: I would love to see it. It's gone. It's kind

518
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: of been quiet here for a while since since the

519
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: father's son, which was an amazing thing to see, not

520
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: just because we saw him swinging a golf club again,

521
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: but because again you saw his son hitting shots that

522
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: were just remarkable with a way abound him that's just

523
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 1: like his dad and his mannerism. So look, it's getting close. Um,

524
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: you're right, though, I want to emphasize your point to

525
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: think that he could walk that four straight days. You

526
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: know he might be able to play it, but what's

527
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: he gonna feel like on Friday? And if he makes

528
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: the cut, you know, now you've got two more days

529
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Kenny, Really yeah, the elevation there is something

530
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: if you haven't been there, you almost can't emphasize about

531
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: everybody in this season. The first time said man, I

532
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: had no idea like walking up eighteen is it's a

533
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: great climb. I don't want to make it sound like

534
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: these golfers aren't athletes, but when you're coming off of

535
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: what he's coming off of, and the walk up and

536
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: down to hit sidehill shots and things like that, it's

537
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: a lot to ask how's your golf game. By the way,

538
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: i haven't played in a long time, but I'm getting

539
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: ready to talk about it. I'm getting ready, not my game,

540
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk about golf. This weekend, I'm going

541
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: to have the unique double dip, maybe triple dip. Because

542
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: of the elongated season of the NFL going eighteen weeks,

543
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: the NFL now stepped right into the weekend that used

544
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: to belong exclusively with no football coverage to the Farmers

545
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: Insurance Open at Tory Pines and Beautiful San Diego. It

546
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: happens to mark our season. Premiere of golf is this weekend.

547
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: So the tour in Jay Monahan along with Sean McManus,

548
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: came up with a great plant. It's gonna be a

549
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: Saturday night finish back Eastern Primetime and CBS. Instead of

550
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: being a Saturday Sunday daytime will be Friday and Saturday

551
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: early evening smash Primetime on the network. So I'm going

552
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: to call the golf from Arrowhead Stadium on Friday night

553
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: and Saturday night and then the championship game on Sunday.

554
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: A tradition, a new tradition unlike any other. You got

555
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: young kids Brady's going through this now his kids are

556
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: a little bit older. How you know, how long do

557
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: you continue? Like what would be what kind of pulls

558
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: you home? You know, I love every minute of it,

559
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: and I just came to an agreement a little, well

560
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: not quite a year ago, to keep doing this for

561
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: a long long time. I love it, and you're right,

562
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: it's it's hard walking out the door and at missing

563
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: kids games and things like that. We made a little tweak.

564
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: You know how much I love my home in Debble Beach,

565
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: which I'm never selling, and you've been a guest at

566
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: my home on several occasions. But we bought we bought

567
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: another home to be more centrally located and get me

568
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: a little bit back to my southern roots. I'm from

569
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Charlotte originally, so we moved to Nashville for the majority

570
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: of the year starting in August, with the great bulk

571
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: of my obligations in the Eastern time zone. This is

572
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,239
Speaker 1: a perfectly centrally located place that I could find. I'm

573
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: an hour and ten minutes like the Kansas City, you know,

574
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: and I think twenty five of the NFL teams or

575
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: a two hour flight or less. When you're flying out

576
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: of Monterey every week. It's growing. It was silly. And

577
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: somebody did a little study on my my schedule last year,

578
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: and I think I'm going to be close to three

579
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: hundred fewer air miles a year. And I did it

580
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: because it's time. You're the greatest currency of all's time.

581
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: In that time, what you want is it with your family.

582
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 1: So I'm leaving later, I'm getting home earlier, and it's

583
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: it's definitely been great to help extend a career. So

584
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand miles no, no, I'm not talking miles

585
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: and free tickets. I'm talking hours oh oh three hours, oh,

586
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: three hundred fewer hours in the air out and on

587
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: top of it, when I would find most of the

588
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: time out of SFO San Francisco, it's one hundred and

589
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: ten miles from my house out in California. So now

590
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm not even factory in the four hours a week

591
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: that I had drive time just to get to the

592
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: airport and back. So it was tough, you know, Like

593
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: we had Tampa three times at home this year. Getting

594
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: to Tampa from Monterey was never easy. From here. It's

595
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: an hour flight, maybe an hour and five minute flight.

596
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: It's easy. Yeah, it's been a great benefit for me

597
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: and my family time. But again, I'm never We're gonna

598
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: strategically slot pebble in there. When like the West Coast

599
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: Golf Swing is coming up, I will base out of

600
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: there and in the summer, in June and July, I'll

601
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: be back at our home in California. Can you see

602
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: Brady retiring right now? And it just seems like it's

603
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: gained so much team, doesn't it since about a week

604
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: ago at this time, it just it was it was

605
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: something that really all season long, it was a little

606
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: bit of behind the scenes undercurrent, but now it's just

607
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: I think by Sunday it had so much talk. I'm

608
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: not sure it's not Tom's fault, but I'm not sure

609
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: it didn't create a little flat environment and attitude for

610
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: the overall team of the Bucks. It was it was

611
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: swirling in the winds so much. It became so much

612
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: of the focus of the story. But I'm not sure

613
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: it contributed to them getting behind so big early. But

614
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: I would like to see he says, he's not going

615
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: to do it and not his style, he says, but

616
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: I would like to know when he's playing for the

617
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: last time, like I'm not ready for a March seventh

618
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: retirement announcement. I want to look down on the field

619
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: and watching play and know that this is the last season,

620
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: potentially the last game. I'm hoping for one more, Tony.

621
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: I've just been practicing it. Let's go, Jim, here we goes, Tony.

622
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: How about my Boyfrank? I know calli and though I

623
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: had to have been sitting and enough of those scenarios.

624
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: In fact, I know he posted something because Tracy showed

625
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: it to me. But Tracy Wilson. But I love Frank Calliando,

626
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: and I've gotten to know him a little bit better

627
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: in this last year. Is that sound about right? I

628
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not very good at that. Seaton Seton

629
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: does al Michaels. Have you heard his al Michaels in

630
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: personally it's been a while. Okay, here you go, let's here,

631
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 1: here you go, and there he goes. That's it? That? Yeah,

632
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: I like it? And and uh Seton does Tony Tony

633
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: romo Jen there's only ten men on the film. Jim

634
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: sounds about right, That's about right. Hey, congrats on the

635
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: move there, hope the family's great and uh good to

636
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: talk to you buddy. Always good to talk to you.

637
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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, You're a great friend. Thanks. That's Jim

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Speaker 1: joining us on the program ran good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the Bills in the Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: let's fix overtime in the postseason or do we need

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Speaker 1: to fix overtime in the postseason? You know, I think

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00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where obviously people are upset

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Speaker 1: that a guy like Josh Allen, after playing one of

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Speaker 1: the best games we've ever seen in the playoffs from

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, doesn't get an opportunity to score, right, It

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Speaker 1: doesn't get an opportunity to have his rebuttal per se

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Speaker 1: against what Patrick Mahomes did, And so I get that

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Speaker 1: for me. The hard thing is is when you talk

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Speaker 1: about player safety and some of these rules we've said

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Speaker 1: in place, we can't have Alabama Auburn. You know from

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Speaker 1: from this from the twenty twenty one season with Patrick

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00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Josh Allen, you can't have it go through

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Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line possessions and then to the

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Speaker 1: two point conversions. It didn't say the same breath that

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Speaker 1: player safety is important, But I do think it's important

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Speaker 1: that the best team wins, and you have sixty minutes

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Speaker 1: to do that, and if you're the Buffalo Bills, you

682
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: also had thirteen seconds to do it right. You had

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to keep them from getting in field goal

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Speaker 1: range and allowing Harrison Bucker to tie the game up.

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Speaker 1: And you're the number one defense in the world DP

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Speaker 1: and you can't and you can't stop them from scoring

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Speaker 1: a touchdown in the first overtime drive. But I think

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Speaker 1: we also know that if the Buffalo Bills get the

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Speaker 1: ball first, with the way they were playing, Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have got an opportunity either. And so as the

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Speaker 1: week has gone on, I've grown closer and closer to

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Speaker 1: saying that maybe we should fix the overtime rules in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, But it has to be a Aren't way

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Speaker 1: to do it, and I'm not necessarily sure I have

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Speaker 1: that solution. See, I just think it's Chiefs get a chance,

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Speaker 1: then if they score, then the Bills know they're going

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Speaker 1: to get a chance and then if they score, then

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Speaker 1: after that it's sudden death overtime. Both teams got their chance,

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Speaker 1: and you know whatever happens after that. And I know

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Speaker 1: that we want to factor in, well, the Bills should

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Speaker 1: have won this game. They should have squibbed and kick

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00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: they I mean, come on, thirteen seconds and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: let Mahomes do that to you. But I think if

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Speaker 1: you want to be fair, then that would probably be

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Speaker 1: the fairer and equitable way to do it. Then we

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Speaker 1: would have gotten Josh Allen in his chance. And really

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Speaker 1: this is about the NFL being in the business of entertainment.

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Speaker 1: What would have been more entertaining than Josh Allen now

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Speaker 1: comes back out with the season on the line. This

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Speaker 1: is the duel that you won, and I think that

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Speaker 1: that's it would set up. Here's the other part of

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00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: it is the other part of it is too to

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Speaker 1: see Patrick Mahomes complete the football to Travis Else take

714
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Speaker 1: off the helmet run down like that, that's exciting as well.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting to know that from that position on the field,

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Speaker 1: that the Buffalo Bills don't come up with a stop,

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Speaker 1: then their season is over, and so I think that

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Speaker 1: the excitement part doesn't doesn't waiver or doesn't wane with

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Speaker 1: the way that everything's set up now. But I do

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Speaker 1: believe that the fairness side of it is different. Right,

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Speaker 1: if we're going to just talk about, you know, fairness,

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Speaker 1: and in the other sense of it, if the Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs get the ball first and they score, and

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Speaker 1: then Josh Allen comes down and he scores, and then

725
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Kansas City gets in back because they got they won

726
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Speaker 1: the toss and they score again, we're gonna have the

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Speaker 1: same conversation, Well, Josh Allen didn't get two chances and

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Speaker 1: Patricks No, no, no, because then it would be on

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Speaker 1: your defense. I would say, no, you had your chance.

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Speaker 1: They had their chance, and that'sh it. I was also wondering,

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Speaker 1: I think we hand you on. Earlier in the season,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about defenses were doing to Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we were saying, all right, Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: now has to be a little bit more economical going

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Speaker 1: down the field. Doesn't seem like he's as economical as

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Speaker 1: he was during the season when we weren't sure about

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Speaker 1: that Chief's offense or suddenly NFL defenses had a solution.

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's more economical now, which

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Speaker 1: has lended to some big plays with the yards after

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Speaker 1: the catch. This isn't the Patrick Mahomes that threw for

741
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Speaker 1: fifty touchdowns and everything was about stretching the field vertically.

742
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: You look to the Tyree Hill play against two men

743
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Speaker 1: when he beats Levi Wallace. That's an intermediate throw that

744
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Speaker 1: the fastest man in football takes and makes it a

745
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: sixty five yard touchdowns. But that what I've seen from

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00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is more patients. I've seen Patrick Mahomes make

747
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: better decisions within the pocket and without and outside of

748
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Speaker 1: the pocket. This has been a strange evolution of Patrick Mahome.

749
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Speaker 1: He's always going to be extremely talented and extremely explosive,

750
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: but I've seen him check the football down. I've seen

751
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: him from the pocket. Understand Travis Kelsey is the first

752
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: read I have to hit him in the zone. We've

753
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: also watched his mechanics get better as the season is going. Alone,

754
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: I am as impressed with who he started as what

755
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: it was in the middle of the season and who

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00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: he is now as I've ever been impressed with any

757
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: player's evolution in one year, and I think it really

758
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: points to his greatness. And there was a moment, though, Ryan,

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00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: where you see Mahomes at the line of scrimmage changing

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00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: the play for Kelsey and he yells out to Kelse,

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Speaker 1: do it, So you do it, Kelse. Okay, if I'm

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo, yeah, exactly, Like I'm guessing Travis Kelsey is

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Speaker 1: the Kels he's talking about, and Buffalo like, how the

764
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: hell does he catch your pass? Well, you know what,

765
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: they turned it into playground football though, DP Like, so,

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00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: I always had a problem playing Madden, right, And here's

767
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: why I couldn't play Maddie Maddie because it wasn't a

768
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: real game. You know. If I'm doubling Hines Ward and

769
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Speaker 1: I'm playing my ten year old son at the time,

770
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Speaker 1: and he keeps throwing the ball to Hines Ward and

771
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: screaming at me, Oh Dad, you can't stop Hines. But

772
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: I know I'm doubling. I'm pissed off because I'm like,

773
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: that's not real football. What Travis Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes

774
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: did was not real football, he said. Travis Kelsey says

775
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Speaker 1: in the postgame presser, I told him I'm not going

776
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Speaker 1: to run the play I'm just going to run to

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Speaker 1: where it's open and Patrick Mahomes to him. Two of

778
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: the greatest players in the world. Go do it, Kelse

779
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: do it. And if you watch Patrick Mahomes, he pumps

780
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: the ball twice because he don't know where the hell

781
00:43:54,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's going. You know, they bleak the pass. Who

782
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: would you rather face Mahomes or Josh Allen? Wow, that's

783
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: like saying, what would you rather do? Die? Burning or drowning? Um?

784
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Speaker 1: Who can I go with? Neither? Can I pick Jimmy Garoppolo?

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Speaker 1: You know, I think I think I would pick Patrick

786
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Speaker 1: Mahomes because I think he's the better player. Um, but

787
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Speaker 1: what Josh Allen presents from a physical standpoint right now

788
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: in the league is unmatched. It's if it's if prime

789
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton was a better passer yea, and a more

790
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: explosive passer. Yeah, that's that's That's a great analogy. And

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Speaker 1: I don't like my quarterbacks running, but it feels like

792
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: he has to run. And I and I thought if

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Speaker 1: they were going to win in the playoffs, he needed

794
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: to have that element of danger there in the minds

795
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Speaker 1: and they were gonna go for it on fourth downs.

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00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: So you just know we're it's full speed ahead, like

797
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: we're not stopping. This is the only way we're gonna

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00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: win is not kicking field goals. And I was really

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Speaker 1: amazed that Josh Allen, and I was critical him when

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Speaker 1: he first came in. Okay, I just didn't think that

801
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: he knew the game. I thought he like he panicked,

802
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: and I mean he's matured so much that you go

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00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: toe to toe, and I never thought that I'd be

804
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: seeing Josh Allen go toe to toe with Patrick Mahomes.

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00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: You know, I said it in the off season when

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00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: I picked Buffalo Kansas City in the AFC Championship that

807
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: I felt like Josh Allen showed us throughout last year

808
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: he could stand across room from Patrick Mahomes on the

809
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: other sideline and feel just as confident, confident in his

810
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: abilities as Patrick Mahomes could. There were times this year

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Speaker 1: I disagreed with that, and then about the second half

812
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay Buccaneer game, he started to use

813
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: his legs again in his athleticism and his physicality. And

814
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: it's so crazy. Sometimes a coach can look at his

815
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: team and say, you know what, here is what we

816
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: need to do Josh Allen actually showed offensive coordinator Brian

817
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: Dayball what to do because that team wasn't running the

818
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: football before that. And when Josh started to run it,

819
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: now Singletary got involved in the quarterback runs got involved.

820
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: If we go back to the Ice Bowl or the

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00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: Wind Bowl Wind Bowl against the Patriots, Josh Allen should

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Speaker 1: have run the ball four to five times in the

823
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: red zone and they win. They changed that after that game,

824
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: and now you saw the team that we got to

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00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: see this weekend against Kansas City Chiefs. He's Ryan Clark,

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Speaker 1: ESPN NFL analyst. You mentioned Jimmy Garoppolo. What's his reputation,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean his reputation for dating is that

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00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: it is definitely something that we that we point to

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Speaker 1: as we like more than his football play. I think

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo's reputation is one of he'll try to give

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Speaker 1: a game away, right we you know, we talk about

832
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: it all the time that you know, the interception in

833
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: the red zone, interception against Dallas. We feel like there

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00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: are games where Jimmy Garoppolo puts his team in danger

835
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: of losing and on the other side of it wins.

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Speaker 1: All the time. He is the biggest oxy moron or

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Speaker 1: the biggest you know, ends of the spectrum as a

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00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: quarterback that they have with any successful team. If you

839
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: look at who the San Francisco forty nine ers are

840
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: from a win loss perspective, with Jimmy Garoppolo and without,

841
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: it's night and day. But do you believe it felt

842
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: that you here's the saying you can lose with me,

843
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: but you can't win without me. Yeah, I've never heard

844
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: that saying. I feel like that's some mythical thing you

845
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: just made up. No, Terry Legend, Terry Bradshawn said this

846
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: years ago, and it felt like it's applicable to Jimmy

847
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: G that you know, hey, I can mess up and

848
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: we can lose, but you do need me, you know,

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Speaker 1: for us to win. But I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if that's true or not, but it just feels if

851
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: everybody goes at Jimmy G, he just wins, I go, yeah,

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00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: I think No. I think that's for what they've been

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00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: since he'd been there. Now, if you get Aaron Rodgers,

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00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: what I take Aaron Rodgers yes, or Tom Brady yes,

855
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: or any of those great quarterbacks, but for who he's

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00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: been as a San Francisco forty nine ers. That's the

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Speaker 1: perfect at forty nine ers, that's the perfect Um. I

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Speaker 1: would say, analogy or the perfect saying for who Jimmy

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Speaker 1: g is. Yeah, explained to me from a defensive backs perspective,

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00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. You know, and I can say this on

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Speaker 1: your show. If Cooper Cup were black, we'd all talk

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00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: about him in a different way. Um, in the sense

863
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: that a lot of times we look at the color

864
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: of a wide receiver and we want to compare them

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Speaker 1: to people who they look like more so than people

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00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: who they play like. Right, Cooper Cup is gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is not Julie and Edelman. Cooper Cup is

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Speaker 1: not West Walker, Right, Cooper Cup is in the conversation

869
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Speaker 1: with the Devote Adams, in with the DeAndre Hopkins of

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Speaker 1: the world. Cooper Cup is a man that could play

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00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: every single position. He's an excellent route runner. But if

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00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: you listen to him talk about the game right and

873
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: explain why he does certain things, why they run certain routes,

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00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: he speaks about the game like a quarterback, And so

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00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: I think, and so to me, Cooper Cup is a

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams justin Jefferson. He's in the conversations with those

877
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: type of guys for field of the game, route running

878
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: and catching ability. I'll give you the comp I have

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00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: for Cooper Cup. He doesn't play any longer. He's going

880
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame, Okay, And he works with

881
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady occasionally. He works with Tom Brady occasionally. Antonio Brown,

882
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald, Oh, Antonio Brown, Okay, all right, all right.

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00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't think Cooper Cup would ever be compared to

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00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. I see, uh, Cooper Cup and Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah,

885
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: I think, I think. I think the I think Larry

886
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: was was bigger and honestly never as good of a

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00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: route runner. Just to be to be truthful with you,

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00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cup is uh is as as route

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00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: running goes. I think he's one of the greatest that's

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00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: ever lived. This is I do from you go back

891
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: to the not not the catch on the big catch

892
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: on Antoine Winfield, but the catch before where they're in

893
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: two men on Murphy on Murphy Bunting. Right, he gets

894
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: to the top of that route, and Murphy Bunting understands

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Speaker 1: that he has to be inside Cooper Cup right at

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00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: the top of it. Rob his drought sticks him inside

897
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: and makes him fall. Right, that's some let's for a

898
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: basketball comp that's some Alan iverson Steph Curry CP three

899
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Speaker 1: type movement, you know. And to me, like Larry never

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00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: had that. Larry was bigger and Larry had great hands.

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00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: Cooper creates so much separation with his route running. Man,

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00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: I just think it's so underrated the type of athlete

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Speaker 1: and player that he is. It's always great to talk

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Speaker 1: to you, Ryan, Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it

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Speaker 1: and have fun. All right, We'll manna have a great day.

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Speaker 1: All right. That's Ryan Clark. I told you I always

907
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: look forward to having him on. There's some always interesting

908
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: things to say. Yeah, he's such a character. I mean,

909
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: his analysis, man, cracks us all up on the side. Yeah,

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00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: and you know you look at Cooper Cup and he's right.

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00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: You know, you don't look at him and go, you know,

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00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: he belongs in with these other uh, you know, wide receivers.

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Speaker 1: He kind of put him in the corner like, you know,

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00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: put him in a your pigeon hole. But Cooper Cup

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00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: and I said this at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: You know, you talk about value to a team. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know how you can say somebody other than

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Speaker 1: a quarterback is more valuable to their team than than

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00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: what Cooper Cup was to the Rams. Now you can

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00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: make a case for Deebo Samuel absolutely, Jonathan Taylor. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I think we get caught up in the quarterbacking numbers

922
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Speaker 1: and that's why we slight these other players. Those quarterbacks

923
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: get those numbers, they have to throw the ball to somebody.

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00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 1: But what Cooper Cup meant to the Rams this year,

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Speaker 1: I think you can equate to the value that Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers had with the Packers, or Tom Brady or Jonathan

927
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Speaker 1: Taylor or Deebo Samuel and he doesn't ask for credit.

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Speaker 1: People still focus on OBJ more than they do Cooper

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Speaker 1: Cup because you know that you get clicks. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: OBJ in a headline, You're gonna get clicks. Cooper Cup,

931
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Speaker 1: you're not. That's just the reality of the business that

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Speaker 1: we're in. You know, there's a there's a Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 1: Field a Cooper Cup that he just doesn't say anything. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we had him on And we started

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Speaker 1: talking about him at Eastern Washington in the postseason, and

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Speaker 1: I thought I even said to Paul, because Paul loves

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00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: watching those you know Division one Double A games, and

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Speaker 1: he'll be like, hey, you got to see this guy

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Speaker 1: at Eastern Illinois. You know this Jimmy Garoppolo. And I

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00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: watched and he played great, and Carson wentz of court

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Speaker 1: the North Dakota State and then Paul goes, hey got

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Speaker 1: a guy for Eastern Washington, Cooper Cup, And I went,

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00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: all right, Cooper Cup, and I tuned in and he

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Speaker 1: did a post pattern, scored a touchdown. I'll be I'll

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Speaker 1: be damned you. And then you go, wow, it's small.

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Speaker 1: You know this is Division one Double A and you

947
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: know you're playing on a red field. And then nobody

948
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: could guard him, nobody could cover him, and I went,

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Speaker 1: he's really good. I don't know if he can play

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. And then turns in one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest seasons of all time.