WEBVTT - “I QUIT VAPING TO PEG MY BF”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hello, is this the get Go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Hello, you texted me. You said you said you

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<v Speaker 2>Oh godd ah, you said something. You said. Uh, my

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<v Speaker 2>name is twenty two, and I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how I quit vaping to peg my boyfriends. How does

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<v Speaker 2>that work? Why did you need to quit vaping to

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<v Speaker 2>peg your boyfriends?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so I wanted to quit vaping, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the hardest addictions to to like get tasked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from like the top five according to doctors and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But he knew that I really really wanted to quit vaping,

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<v Speaker 1>and he knew that I really wanted to peg him.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, you know, if you quit vaping

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm a single, been a nicotine for three months,

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<v Speaker 1>you get pegging privileges. You have rights to my untouched asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's pecked him before and literally nothing's been up there,

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<v Speaker 1>So how could I say no?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so this is uh, your boyfriend has incentivized you,

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<v Speaker 2>offering up his his little asshole for you to.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not gonna die. Yeah I am. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled to share this story because to all the people

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<v Speaker 1>out there wanting to quit the substance, wanting to quit something.

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<v Speaker 1>Just find yourself a submissive ass boyfriend who will let

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<v Speaker 1>you peg him if you quit it.

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<v Speaker 2>But just think about how great it would be to

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<v Speaker 2>like take your hands and like open up his asshole

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<v Speaker 2>and blow vape spoke into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, that's such a good point, guy, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>How has it?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Has this been working so far? Have you quit vaping?

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<v Speaker 1>It is? Yes, it has because I had after so

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<v Speaker 1>this rule was three months. If I quit for three months,

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<v Speaker 1>then I have privileges. But then we just I actually

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<v Speaker 1>I quit in I had my last vapin in August

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<v Speaker 1>of last year, so I've definitely had August of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three, so I've had lots of time to do

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<v Speaker 1>the deed, and I've done a team bit of the deed.

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<v Speaker 1>But it actually, after ninety days of now nicotine, it

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<v Speaker 1>gets like you don't It's still like you want it

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<v Speaker 1>and concept, but the withdrawals are put behind you.

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<v Speaker 2>And so has it been It hasn't been three months yet,

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<v Speaker 2>has it? It has?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And yeah? Yeah, so how was I've reaped the

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<v Speaker 1>benefits of my reward.

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<v Speaker 4>It.

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<v Speaker 1>So what they don't tell you about anal is that

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<v Speaker 1>you really gotta like build up to that point, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I've not used the strap on him yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is, it is so positively delightful. I cannot describe

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you what do you? Is it fingers fists?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I don't. It also was like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a good time sometimes, you know. It's it's about

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<v Speaker 1>finding that like from intakeer dominating time, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to rush him into losing his anal virginity, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I wanted to find a nice calm time. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's only been a few times for that, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's been been so long since I've had access to

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<v Speaker 1>its re access to his assle. One time I did

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<v Speaker 1>clean his apartment and he told me, anytime you want, anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>I will drop my drawers and you can just put

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<v Speaker 1>put something in there. And I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? He gave me one free coupon.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like this guy, uh, I mean, uh, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like he always wanted you to peg him, but

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<v Speaker 2>he needed some little extra thing to kind of get there.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably true, but it's funnier whenever it's as

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<v Speaker 1>a reward.

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<v Speaker 5>Because we had.

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<v Speaker 1>Been dating for like a all not a year, but

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<v Speaker 1>almost a year whenever he threw it out there, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'd always said I wanted to, but he was always scared.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was more that after I like quit my

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<v Speaker 1>like second hardest addiction. Weed was a tough one to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really worked through that one. But it's he

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted it, but it's so scary, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's actually in the room with me right now

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever want to get his perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh yeah, sure, sure, sure, let's talk to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here he is.

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<v Speaker 2>Ullo, Hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 3>A right?

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<v Speaker 2>So are you do you do you vape? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>do anything? What's your vice? What are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 5>No? I personally don't vape.

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<v Speaker 4>I smoke weed like twice a month. I don't really

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<v Speaker 4>do much.

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<v Speaker 5>I just play video games.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm uh, So are you are you? You're not

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<v Speaker 2>addicted to anything? There's not like a Hey, I'll quit

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<v Speaker 2>playing video games and I can comb my fingers through

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<v Speaker 2>your hair type of ship.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I'm not really addicted to anything. I I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't do much.

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<v Speaker 2>How's how's being pegged? Ben?

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<v Speaker 4>Gone well, working up to it so far, just fingers,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing crazy, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you excited about it? Is this? Is this a positive,

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful development in your life?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 4>But honestly, the hardest part is just find the hardest

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<v Speaker 4>time to do it, because like both she and I

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<v Speaker 4>both live with people all the time, So like just

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<v Speaker 4>finding like a.

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<v Speaker 5>Time where no one's no one's home to like.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, either catch us or like overhear anything.

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<v Speaker 5>That's probably the hardest part of all of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what how many roommates do you have?

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<v Speaker 5>So normally I have two other people I live with.

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<v Speaker 4>When I'm in college, but right now I live with

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<v Speaker 4>my parents for the summer, so yeah, two or three

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<v Speaker 4>other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually you live with your parents, but so you live

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<v Speaker 2>with your parents during the summer. Yeah, See, it must

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<v Speaker 2>be nice when you leave because then they can peg

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<v Speaker 2>each other because that's what they're waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly.

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<v Speaker 4>Possibly they're very they're very conservative, so I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 4>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, listen, here's the thing, the conservative stuff

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<v Speaker 2>on the on the surface, but in the sheets we're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a little liberal. Oh god, well, you can hand

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<v Speaker 2>the phone back to who your girlfriend all right here

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<v Speaker 2>you go. Hello, Well this was nice. This really made

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<v Speaker 2>me believe in love again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I think we are a perfect perfect match.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 2>people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 1>There's one thing actually, something that bothers me is people

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<v Speaker 1>often abuse the term gaslight. They think it means manipulate,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's actually based.

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<v Speaker 2>Off of it actually means when you fart in someone's.

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<v Speaker 1>Face and you light it on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>And you light it on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know just the actual word comes from. When

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<v Speaker 1>this guy turns down this oil lamp, it's like gas

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<v Speaker 1>lamp slowly and slowly, and it's like and his girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>He convinces his girlfriend she's going blind. And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually about convincing the victims that they're actually insane, not

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<v Speaker 1>just oh he's a manipulator. He's like a manipulator who

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<v Speaker 1>makes you think you're insane. I don't know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted to share that on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that there was a parable about a

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<v Speaker 2>lamp that's like ancient folklore. Shit. I thought it was just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a word if you google it, it's actually just

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<v Speaker 1>based off of some popular play. I'm not sure. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a some kind of non musical but a play.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the name, but to the people out

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<v Speaker 1>here listening, definitely research it because so many people misuse

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<v Speaker 1>it and the nerd in me is like, oh, if

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<v Speaker 1>only they knew. It's only they knew.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's interesting because I feel like I've only started

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<v Speaker 2>hearing that word in the past, like a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess you're I guess a gas lamp. That's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were using that in the seventeen hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever the fuck, So it took a while for

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<v Speaker 2>it to catch on.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, yeah, but it was so lovely to share the story.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope all the partners out there can use this

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<v Speaker 1>as an interesting reward.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, take care and enjoy your smoke free and

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<v Speaker 2>butthole filled life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shall thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Take in the background, he said, wait, let me say

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<v Speaker 2>bye too, But it's okay. He we we said goodbye

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<v Speaker 2>and spirit who from?

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Kapu?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello?

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<v Speaker 6>Hello? Is this the gig?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? What'd you say? Your name was?

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Kabukabu?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>What's up? Kabu? Hello?

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<v Speaker 6>Gick uh?

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<v Speaker 2>How how how how can I get you today. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh? I have a boyfriend in a different country, and

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not sure what I should do about the whole

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<v Speaker 6>being in the same countrys dake, if this is a

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<v Speaker 6>good idea or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm in America and he's in Japan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in Japan? Okay? Is he is he Japanese? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is he just living there?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? He's just he is.

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<v Speaker 6>We have met in person already, but we met over

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<v Speaker 6>the internet, and I'm getting maybe a little anxious about

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<v Speaker 6>the whole moving to another country thing, or if I

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<v Speaker 6>should have him move here.

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<v Speaker 2>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm thirty cold he is twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty nine. What do you do for work?

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<v Speaker 6>I make pizzas.

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<v Speaker 2>I got all right, so you can't really do that remotely.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I kind of dropped out of college, so

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<v Speaker 6>I don't really have a degree. And I know people

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<v Speaker 6>from America and other countries that have moved over there

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<v Speaker 6>and have a lot to say about work and good

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<v Speaker 6>and bad things, and I'm not sure if I should

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<v Speaker 6>do that, Like I really go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, how long have you been talking to this

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<v Speaker 2>guy for?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so we've been dating for about a year, and

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<v Speaker 6>I met him in March when I went to Japan

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<v Speaker 6>for a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you met him once, you really met him

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<v Speaker 2>in person that one time we spent.

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<v Speaker 6>A week together, but we talk like every.

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<v Speaker 5>Day over the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, Where in America do you live?

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<v Speaker 6>I live in Maryland.

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<v Speaker 2>Live in Maryland. Oh nice, that's where I'm from. What's

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<v Speaker 2>your life like in Maryland?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't really like Like I'm from Baltimore. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>really like Baltimore. I don't really like living here. I've

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<v Speaker 6>lived here all my life. But when I went over there,

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<v Speaker 6>everything like, like all the buses are on time, everything

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<v Speaker 6>was cheaper. A lot of my online friends are Japanese,

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<v Speaker 6>so I got to meet them. Like, there's a whole

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<v Speaker 6>bunch of people. I don't have friends, a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>friends over here.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let me ask you a question. Yeah, let's say

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<v Speaker 2>you pack up all your stuff, you get an apartment

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<v Speaker 2>in Japan. You do all the papers, get the visa,

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<v Speaker 2>get a job, say goodbye to your friends, sell your furniture.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think go all the way to Japan? You

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<v Speaker 2>move in. You get a text from your boyfriend that says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think that we shouldn't see each other anymore

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<v Speaker 2>after of course mourning the relationship. Would you still be

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<v Speaker 2>happy that you moved to Japan.

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<v Speaker 6>I would be happy that I moved to Japan because

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<v Speaker 6>I've been studying this language for four years, like over

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<v Speaker 6>the internet, and I have a lot of friends over

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<v Speaker 6>there that I got to meet when I was visiting.

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<v Speaker 6>And I also kind of sometimes DJ, so I got

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<v Speaker 6>the DJ over there. I think there will still be

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<v Speaker 6>many opportunities for me to do cool stuff if I'm

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<v Speaker 6>over there. Even if it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, that's great, That's fantastic. Yeah, because I think if

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<v Speaker 2>it was, like if you were moving there like one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred or ninety or even eighty percent just because of

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, it's kind of a recipe for disaster. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a well rounded kind of if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a well rounded bunch of reasons that would take

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<v Speaker 2>you over there, I think that that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay. I mean it's not my first time meeting people

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<v Speaker 6>off the internet that I talked to at least more

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<v Speaker 6>than a year or something to hang out with, so

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<v Speaker 6>I'm well versed in kind of meeting people and then

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<v Speaker 6>and then not really hanging out again. Sometimes after it.

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<v Speaker 6>But there are people I also still talk to that

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<v Speaker 6>I've known for eight years over the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Why what was I gonna say, Oh, how hard is

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<v Speaker 2>it to get the visa to stay there for an

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<v Speaker 2>extended period of time?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it's not hard, because if you're an American, you

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<v Speaker 6>don't really even need to apply for a visa to

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<v Speaker 6>get there, like for ninety days. I think it depends

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<v Speaker 6>on what you end up doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Over there, because you yeah, well, I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how about this man? Like instead of I mean you

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<v Speaker 2>you went and you hung out there for a week

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<v Speaker 2>before before a fucking moving there and like getting to

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<v Speaker 2>doing a whole thing. Why don't you just go there

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<v Speaker 2>for for ninety days and see how you like it.

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<v Speaker 6>But I would have to find a job that will

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<v Speaker 6>sustain me, And that's probably the most difficult difficult thing

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<v Speaker 6>of this is that I don't really I don't really

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<v Speaker 6>have a college degree, so I can't really do any

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<v Speaker 6>English teaching jobs, you know, even if I can speak Japanese, like,

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<v Speaker 6>you need your degree to be able to begin to

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<v Speaker 6>talk to those people. So then I'm out of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Then that limits the rest of what I'm able to

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<v Speaker 6>do too.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any college credit.

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<v Speaker 6>I do not, and I dropped out.

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<v Speaker 2>How how how much have you researched this whole thing

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<v Speaker 2>of getting a job remotely or getting a job in

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<v Speaker 2>Japan or I mean, look, look, the best thing you

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<v Speaker 2>could do would probably be to get some remote job

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<v Speaker 2>in America and then take it to Japan, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think the yen is very weak right now.

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<v Speaker 6>The yen is still very weak.

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<v Speaker 2>The end is very weak. So I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 2>can get a job where you're making American dollars, you're

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<v Speaker 2>hooked up.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, But then like even kind of having a job

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<v Speaker 6>like that and reporting your taxes apparently is hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, super hard. Taxes are very annoying. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you looked into that, if you looked into uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, remote jobs that pay.

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<v Speaker 6>Am easiest thing that that negates all of that because

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<v Speaker 6>the work visa requires you. So there's a work visa

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<v Speaker 6>that you can have for that type of work, and

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<v Speaker 6>then there's like a like a redund like more redundant

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<v Speaker 6>work visa, but then you have to basically work in

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<v Speaker 6>a sledgshop or wherever they put you. And I haven't

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<v Speaker 6>heard good stories about that, Like people working taxis are

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<v Speaker 6>working for like different agricultural places and they aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do you have do you what? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>have savings at all?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm working on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Maybe, I mean, maybe there's something where you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of instead of moving to Japan immediately, you take a

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<v Speaker 2>year or two to kind of build up some savings

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<v Speaker 2>living in Maryland, and then when you've got some you know,

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<v Speaker 2>ground to stand on, you look at what the opportunities

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<v Speaker 2>are like in Japan, and in that year or two

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<v Speaker 2>you can probably do some kind of online community college thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I think maybe either get in community college in and

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<v Speaker 6>actually finishing this time would work. But like even then,

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<v Speaker 6>I think the easiest option there would be was to

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<v Speaker 6>like visit a few times and then if I like

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<v Speaker 6>someone enough, maybe marry them, because like the marriage visa

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<v Speaker 6>is the easiest one to get.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh well, well on the ninety day.

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<v Speaker 6>One, you can't get a job to make money. So

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<v Speaker 6>where am I going to stay?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I guess you could, Yeah, you could, you could,

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<v Speaker 2>you could marry him? Why not? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm just spitball and I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out how you can do this.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I met him, I like him. It worked,

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<v Speaker 6>but I got to meet him a few more times

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<v Speaker 6>and come over there. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>See, be careful though, and what's what's he do? What's

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<v Speaker 2>his deal?

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<v Speaker 6>So he works a factory job. He's a nice guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I assume he I assume because he works the

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<v Speaker 2>factory job that he doesn't have a lot of time

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<v Speaker 2>off to go visit you in Baltimore. Yes, okay, Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Japan's work like work kind of like what is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Work?

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<v Speaker 6>Culture is different from Americas in which even on your

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<v Speaker 6>day off you're expected to which he was today, go

0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:55.640
<v Speaker 6>and do overtime and then afterwards you're expected to drink

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<v Speaker 6>your boss and far somewhere like that's just kind of

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<v Speaker 6>and if you don't go, and then people look down

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<v Speaker 6>on you, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I think I think the long term goal

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<v Speaker 2>of moving to Japan, I mean, I think it's cool,

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<v Speaker 2>especially if you're not doing it just to be with

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, and you know, because your friends I have.

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't think about moving in another country it was

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<v Speaker 6>just for this guy, you know, Like I have more

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<v Speaker 6>than fifty friends over there and people.

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<v Speaker 2>That I know of from the music, And look, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's a cool goal. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a cool goal. I think if like

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<v Speaker 2>financially you can't hack it right now, you could probably

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<v Speaker 2>make a plan to be able to hack it in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years, you know, go to uh. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure there's like two year programs or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even just spending two years working at the pizza place

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<v Speaker 2>and saving up to to kind of get over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think it's a cool I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a cool it's a cool goal.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, gik.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean don't what I mean? I yeah, all right,

0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 2>what how do you where'd you where? Online? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>meet this guy?

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<v Speaker 5>So?

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<v Speaker 6>Like I played this game called have you heard of

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:18.600
<v Speaker 6>yo Chat?

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<v Speaker 2>You met this guy on vr chat? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>Like, uh so COVID happened. And I lost my job

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<v Speaker 6>right four years ago, and like I was inside a

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<v Speaker 6>lot and I was already kind of like playing games

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<v Speaker 6>because I like, I like playing like momos and stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>But I got really depressed. And then one of my

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:42.160
<v Speaker 6>friends was like, hey, let's try Yocha and see how

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:46.000
<v Speaker 6>it is. And and eventually that friend stopped playing. But

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<v Speaker 6>like I met some Japanese girl like on the game

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<v Speaker 6>four years ago, and she said something to me that

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<v Speaker 6>like changed changed my life. I guess I couldn't speak

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<v Speaker 6>any Japanese, but she used Google Translate to try to

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<v Speaker 6>talk to me, like like through the games, like to

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.159
<v Speaker 6>try to talk at me because she was interested in

0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 6>American culture and she was interested in like knowing about

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<v Speaker 6>like what my life is like and stuff. And then

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<v Speaker 6>she said to me, as best as she could, I

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<v Speaker 6>want to study English so that I can learn more

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<v Speaker 6>about you and about who you are. And that was

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<v Speaker 6>the first time someone said that to me ever, like

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<v Speaker 6>that they want to know about me and they want

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<v Speaker 6>to be my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you felt very you know, like someone cared.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I felt I felt like I was seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>because I struggled. I struggle with depression, like chronic depression,

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 6>and there are moments where it gets really dark if

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<v Speaker 6>I'm very stressed. So it kind of helped me out

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<v Speaker 6>of like this kind of slump. That was because I

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:05.480
<v Speaker 6>was like, well, life can't be life can't be so

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<v Speaker 6>boring and and and you know dark. If I can

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<v Speaker 6>do this thing that other people can't do. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>your typical person is not in America, isn't a Japanese speaker.

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<v Speaker 6>It's something new, and so every almost every other day

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<v Speaker 6>for like the next four years, I would like go

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<v Speaker 6>on and play the games and like join I made friends,

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<v Speaker 6>join my friends and listen to them talk in Japanese

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<v Speaker 6>all drinking, because my folks ability to focus is so

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<v Speaker 6>bad that like I can't, I can't pay attention to

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<v Speaker 6>like text like books, Like I bought some books off

0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.840
<v Speaker 6>of Amazon. I couldn't. I couldn't focus on studying the

0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 6>hero ghana and the Kapa Khana and stuff. So I

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<v Speaker 6>just I would get on early in the morning on

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<v Speaker 6>a day off and like get some alcohol and drink

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<v Speaker 6>with Japanese people and get drunk with Japanese people overseas

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<v Speaker 6>on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>How early are we talking?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm talking like nine eight in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>You're getting drunk on VR chat at eight in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning with Japanese people.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, And I did that for years. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 6>I started knowing how to speak their language just by

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<v Speaker 6>listening to them talk.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds pretty fun. How much Japanese do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you fluent?

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<v Speaker 6>I knew enough to get myself around in Tokyo, but

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<v Speaker 6>reading is really hard. Because I did I didn't like

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 6>all of my studies speaking, so reading kanji and stuff

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<v Speaker 6>is pretty hard, but I can read some here.

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<v Speaker 2>Aghana, you said you have fifty friends like you you,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're feeling like if you go over there, you

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<v Speaker 2>just have you're gonna have a lot of You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>know a lot of people already.

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<v Speaker 6>I went over there to visit, and there was it

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.919
<v Speaker 6>became an issue because there were so many things I

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<v Speaker 6>had to do with people.

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<v Speaker 2>That's wonderful. I wait, so how long ago did you

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<v Speaker 2>start doing start doing this stuff on vr chat?

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<v Speaker 6>Four years? And I started DJing like on and off

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<v Speaker 6>vr chat at DJ and like at two different events

0:25:33.160 --> 0:25:36.399
<v Speaker 6>off the line two three years ago. But my definite

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:37.880
<v Speaker 6>study is four years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool. No, I love this idea. I think it's great.

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like you have a great life waiting for

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:45.439
<v Speaker 2>you in Japan. You just got to figure out how

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<v Speaker 2>to get there potentially. Be patient about it.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll try my best to be patient and work forward.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes it gets like my brain is mean and I

0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 6>end up backtracking and just ruining things.

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 2>But what what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Like, uh, you know, when you're have you ever like

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 6>sabotaged yourself like subconsciously?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>Because you feel like you shouldn't be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe yeah, oh yoh, yeah, oh yeah, I know exactly

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:30.560
<v Speaker 2>what you're talking about. I uh, I, actually I'll do

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<v Speaker 2>a little share I've been. I I kind of I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of go like in and out of going to therapy,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got back in and I'm like, all right,

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna really commit to like doing this every single week.

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<v Speaker 2>And I went to therapy like a week ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>I I kind of came out of it being like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>for at least a week. I'm gonna challenge myself to

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<v Speaker 2>like allow myself to be happy. Like my therapist said,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to like take a risk, and so I

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, that's the risk I'm going to take

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>is allowing myself to be happy. Because when you allow

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 2>yourself to be happy, you you you kind of risk

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>the idea that your happiness will be taken away from you,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's through some something external or just the how

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<v Speaker 2>you know your own brain works. And so that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to do is kind of allow myself to

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<v Speaker 2>be happy. And it's easy to kind of you like,

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>you can sabotage yourself and not allow yourself to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>To kind of protect yourself from failure or rejection or

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<v Speaker 2>something else bad. But that's just a shit way to live, you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, it's so hard like when you actually do that,

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<v Speaker 6>because then like it leads to you being vulnerable, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 6>Like I feel like that, like I'm vulnerable if I

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<v Speaker 6>don't at least put my guard up. And putting my

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 6>guard up makes you feel kind of miserable. But like

0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 6>the being exposed like that kind of scary gig you's scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is scary. It is scary. And the funny

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.320
<v Speaker 2>thing is it's like the ultimate fucking thing is like

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, your happiness will inevitably be taken away from

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you no matter what, because you will die. But that's

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 2>fucking a stupid way to live. I think, just always

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 2>thinking about you know this is going to end, so

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<v Speaker 2>why let's never enjoy anything ever? You know, they have

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<v Speaker 2>great seven elevens over there too, They have dude, Like I.

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<v Speaker 6>Bought alcohol out of the seven to eleven when I

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<v Speaker 6>was over there, and I was it was so cool

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<v Speaker 6>to do. But it makes me wonder, like how do

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<v Speaker 6>they how do you keep people from being alcoholics if

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<v Speaker 6>you're just gonna have like alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>In the seven eleven h The answer is they don't.

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<v Speaker 6>They don't, but like, yes, they don't, because there are

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<v Speaker 6>people that are drunk on the streets, like I've seen it,

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<v Speaker 6>like people just passed out kind of like from drinking

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<v Speaker 6>too much alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, just before we go, I do need

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<v Speaker 2>to ask you this, So when you're getting drunk at

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<v Speaker 2>fucking eight o'clock in the morning, or do you not

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 2>pass out afterwards? Like do you not sleep at one pm? No?

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<v Speaker 6>Because I can drink from maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Like eight hours or something like the Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, I'm a strong I'm a strong drinker.

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 6>It's one thing that's gotten me a reputation with my

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<v Speaker 6>my friends over there is that I can help drink

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<v Speaker 6>them if I really tried.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name again? My name is Kabukaboo, Taboo or Caboo.

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 6>It's it's caboo. It's like I'm using my my internet name.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Is that a Japanese name?

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<v Speaker 6>So it means turnips turn in English. It's like a vegetable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna call you turnip because because I'm in America, they're.

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<v Speaker 6>Both mean the same thing.

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 2>They both mean the same thing exactly Turnip, thanks for calling.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh good luck. This is a cool uh life. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also born and raised in uh Baltimore and uh

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<v Speaker 2>so Tokyo is definitely not Baltimore, So I think it

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<v Speaker 2>is not a change of pace could be good and

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you good luck on getting there. Is there

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<v Speaker 2>anything else you want to say to the people of

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<v Speaker 2>the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you all for the advice in the chat, and like,

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<v Speaker 6>if you love someone and they're like in another country

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 6>and it doesn't seem like entirely crazy, like you have

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 6>other things you can go to the other countries for,

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<v Speaker 6>actually consider it, like don't let your relatives and other

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 6>people kind of be like that's that's horse shit, like

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 6>actually kind of like speal it out maybe for like

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<v Speaker 6>a few years, and then do something new. Take care,

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<v Speaker 6>turn it okay, Bye gig.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi there. What's your name?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm Gabe, Gabe.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Who is this?

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 2>This is the Barack Obama?

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.240
<v Speaker 5>Your voice sounds a lot different than it does on

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 5>the stream.

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, your voice sounds like a guy's voice. What's up, Gabe?

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 5>Nothing much, I'm just chilling.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you what you want to talk about today?

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I guess you saw my text. I'm quite

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<v Speaker 5>bad at talking to people. I was wondering if you

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<v Speaker 5>had any advice as someone who talks to I assume.

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<v Speaker 2>Any people, Like Sure, yeah, sure, I mean you're bad

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<v Speaker 2>at talking. I mean, let me see what you texted here.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, I have absolutely zero ability to start continue conversations. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>is this with like, uh, like when you're like dating,

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 2>or just when you're like making small talk, or like

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<v Speaker 2>with friends or just like kind of like this is

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<v Speaker 2>a general thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's I guess it's like a general kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not too concerned, like like talking to people at work,

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 5>you know, but like specifically with trying to like develop

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 5>friendships relationships, and I don't know, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>hard talking to people making friends, like specifically, do.

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<v Speaker 2>You have very hard? Do you have any friends already?

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I have a I have a few really good friends

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 5>that I am getting good at talking to, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>but like trying to branch out is like the hard thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean, I think like making friends is one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>but like starting how to just how to start and

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<v Speaker 2>continue a conversation. I've always felt like the answer to

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.320
<v Speaker 2>that question was just comes out of like a natural curiosity,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I mean, if you like are curious about

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 2>people and like give a shit, then you just kind

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 2>of follow where that curiosity takes you and you ask questions, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was like thinking a while ago, like I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like my my thing that like I have trouble

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<v Speaker 5>with is that like like continuing conversations. I know, like

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<v Speaker 5>like making small talk and everything. I don't know why,

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<v Speaker 5>but like my brain chemistry just doesn't like think of

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<v Speaker 5>those things to ask about like, oh, how is work going?

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<v Speaker 5>How is this thing in your life going? Like I don't,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I feel like my brain specifically, I

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<v Speaker 5>like to talk about things like like games I'm playing

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 5>or shows I'm watching, and I just have a hard

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<v Speaker 5>time thinking about things that they're doing or things you know,

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<v Speaker 5>if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>That, No, that does make sense. I think there's something

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<v Speaker 2>to be said about like trying to enter other people's contexts,

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:31.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, kind of what they might be thinking or

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<v Speaker 2>what might be important or interesting to them and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of tapping into that. And I understand that it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like you have kind of your topics of conversation that

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 2>you're you're comfortable in, like the video games you're playing

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 2>and your own life. Uh, and maybe it makes you

0:36:52.200 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 2>uncomfortable to veer out of those topics. But I would say,

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>next time you're in a conversation to maybe challenge yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to get out of that comfort zone a little bit

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 2>and take the risk of, like, you know, instead of

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 2>talking about Starduo Valley, ask ask the person that you're

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 2>talking to questions about their out of life. This stuff.

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 2>This stuff feels very simple, it really does. Like all

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you have to do is just show interest in the

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 2>other person. And funnily enough, at least for me, that's

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<v Speaker 2>way easier than like coming up with shit to say

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:43.479
<v Speaker 2>and talking about yourself. Right to literally just sit there

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 2>and listen and not say anything. I mean, it's the

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>easiest thing, you know. I mean, you could just keep

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:55.680
<v Speaker 2>asking people because people love to talk about themselves and like, like,

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 2>similarly to how you feel comfortable talking about the video

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>games that you play in your life and what's going

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>on with you, other people also feel very comfortable talking

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>about those things too, so you kind of just go

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 2>them into talking within their comfort zone by asking them

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>questions about shit and then you know you you go

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<v Speaker 2>from there. Can that make any sense?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I think I'm I think I'm wrapping my head

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<v Speaker 5>around it. It's I don't know. My brain chemistry just

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 5>has a hard time, like its figuring people out. Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's something I definitely need to work on, and I

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 5>think I will definitely like listen to the VOD and

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 5>like just try to absorb everything you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, are you how old are you?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm twenty two, twenty two?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do? Are you in school? Do you work?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not in school anymore. I'm probably not gonna go back. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm working right now. Uh. I'm a merchandiser. So I

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 5>go into a bunch of stores and stock their product,

0:39:13.360 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 5>and it's it's not a bad gig for me. I

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 5>work by myself all day pretty much most of the time,

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 5>so I don't have to worry about these things at

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 5>work most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm mm hmm. Are do you like are you

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>curious about other people? It's kind of okay if you're

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 2>not too.

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<v Speaker 5>I I want to say that I am. There's there's

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<v Speaker 5>definitely people that like, like I'll be I'll be at

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.600
<v Speaker 5>like my friends like parties and stuff, and I'll see

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 5>people there that I kind of want to talk to,

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 5>but it's hard to break that barrier without like without

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 5>my friend that is too, Like there's sometimes people at

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 5>work too that I want to talk to. Yeah, and

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 5>it's just when I when I break away by myself,

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 5>it's a lot harder to to do that on my own.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a little trick here, which is that

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 2>like you're kind of you are you afraid of like rejection?

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Are you afraid that you'll try to start talking to

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<v Speaker 2>someone and they just won't want to talk to you.

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 5>I think I've always had a very, uh a big

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 5>fear of rejection, so that that could be a root

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 5>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the and this is it's difficult, and

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm still trying to uh kind of get here because

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like being secure with yourself is a forever game

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's hard. But to me, this secure way to

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 2>go about this is to make it a very internal

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 2>game where you're like, look, I'm going into this social

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 2>interaction in good faith with the intention of trying to

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>get to know people, of socializing, and you know, I

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 2>want to talk to this person because I find them interesting.

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm going into this in good faith, and if my

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 2>good faith is rebuffed, that is in no way, shape

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 2>or form a reflection upon me because I'm going into

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 2>it with good faith. It might be a reflection upon them,

0:41:45.200 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>but that doesn't matter. That's their story, that's not yours.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 2>And so it's a single player game, and you win

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 2>if you overcome your fear and do the thing and

0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 2>understand that, uh you're gumma, you're coming in on good faith.

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.959
<v Speaker 2>And you don't win if the other person thinks you're

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 2>cool and awesome, because that's out of your control. That's

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 2>not anything. So the the game is, the game is

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 2>one when you overcome your own fear and and approach

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 2>these situations, uh, in a in a secure, confident way,

0:42:30.480 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 2>which is so hard to do, you know. Uh, you know,

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about it like it's easy. But that's what

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the parameters of the game of kind of

0:42:41.920 --> 0:42:46.839
<v Speaker 2>interacting with society and people is is is it's an

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 2>internal game, weirdly enough, even it's a it's it's kind

0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 2>of like an internal single player game. Weirdly enough, even

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 2>though you're interacting with other people because you know, it's

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 2>about you, and it's about if you're doing your best

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 2>effort to overcome your fears, not if other people like

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>you or accept you, because that's just out of your

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:14.720
<v Speaker 2>fucking hands. Does that make sense?

0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 5>I think so.

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, talking to people is crazy because some people

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>are just uh, I don't know, so people are. There's

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:34.879
<v Speaker 2>another thing I think about, which is the I don't

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.240
<v Speaker 2>know where I heard it, but I heard something about

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 2>like the sixty forty rule, which is like, I don't

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>know which is sixty and which is forty, and the

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 2>numbers are iffy, but basically, like, some percentage of how

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 2>people respond to you is based on them and how

0:43:53.200 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 2>they're feeling in the moments and who they are, and

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 2>then of course an undeniable significant percentage is based on

0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 2>you and how you're approaching the interaction. And that percentage

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>is the percentage that we tend to obsess over, but

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.160
<v Speaker 2>we kind of never think about the other forty percent,

0:44:14.560 --> 0:44:18.040
<v Speaker 2>which is, okay, they might be feeling a certain way

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:22.399
<v Speaker 2>that's influencing how they're going about this interaction. I mean,

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 2>other people's responses to you is crafted from years and

0:44:29.040 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 2>years and years of their life experiences and brain chemistry

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:37.879
<v Speaker 2>and ancestry and all this shit that is just out

0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 2>of your zone of anything, and you can pretty easily

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 2>discount all that and go, no, they don't like me

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:51.160
<v Speaker 2>because I talked to I said something stupid.

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<v Speaker 5>You know. Yeah, I think that's a problem I have too.

0:44:56.200 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm just like like I'll talk to people and they

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.719
<v Speaker 5>I guess, like, for a specific example, I guess like

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 5>if we go into the dating realm. I went on

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 5>a date once and I thought things were going good.

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 5>I thought we had a good conversation, hitting off pretty

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 5>well texting like prior to the date. But after the date,

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 5>she just kind of ghosted me yea, and I was

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.319
<v Speaker 5>super confused. And it's just it was just all I

0:45:27.320 --> 0:45:30.000
<v Speaker 5>could think about, like for so long, just like what

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 5>what did I say? What did I What did I

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 5>do wrong? And yeah, it really it really messes with me.

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, dude. That No. I mean, the dating

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:44.040
<v Speaker 2>realm is uh, it's insane. No, I mean it's devastating

0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 2>man to you. You you go out with someone and

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 2>you feel like you have a connection and you know

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:50.759
<v Speaker 2>this and that and the other thing, and then it

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't work out. It's hard it's really hard, but

0:45:56.840 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 2>you you you really really really have to learn to

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 2>not let it affect your sense of who you are

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 2>because it'll just fuck you up.

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:11.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's devastating. You wish it worked out,

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:18.399
<v Speaker 2>but you can't let the fact that it didn't work

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 2>out make you think that you're you know, a piece

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 2>of ship, because again, all the all that, all that

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:28.680
<v Speaker 2>really matters that at the end of the day, I

0:46:28.719 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 2>think is that you like try to your best two

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:39.720
<v Speaker 2>go about the universe in some amount of good faith,

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 2>even if you fuck up here and there, you know,

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:46.719
<v Speaker 2>it's all that really matters.

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just I guess doing my best to not fuck.

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:55.399
<v Speaker 2>Up is yeah, gold. Yeah, and like whatever, I mean,

0:46:56.000 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 2>it could just be that like, uh, you know, there

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>was no there was no attraction, and how do you

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 2>fix that? I don't know, Uh, I I mean for

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 2>every for every you know, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, whatever,

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 2>people who don't find you attractive, there's at least one

0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 2>who does. And it's a little bit of like a game.

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit of like just a numbers game

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.839
<v Speaker 2>of putting yourself out there over and over and over

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 2>and over again, which again is is kind of kind

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 2>of can be brutal, kind of can be brutal, but

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 2>you just you got to do it and you got

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 2>to learn to do it in a in a secure way,

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>which is hard.

0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:45.839
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's if we're talking about like, yeah, if we're

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 5>talking about like dating, I've kind of like I'm kind

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 5>of ignoring that side right now, just because I get

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 5>into habits where I like get too into like like

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 5>this headspace where I'm like I need to get this

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:05.040
<v Speaker 5>app and I need to be on the dating apps

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 5>every day.

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's that's I'm telling you from

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:15.560
<v Speaker 2>personal life experience throughout my throughout several you know, epochs.

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I've had several epochs of my life, you know where

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 2>where I've I've been, uh, you know, kind of kind

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 2>of obsessed with that realm. And that's that's just when

0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 2>you know you're fucked because you're like kind of taking

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:37.400
<v Speaker 2>time away from developing your own life into this realm

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 2>of like I need to find another person to make

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 2>me feel okay. Uh And when when your brain is there,

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>you've taken a wrong turn.

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like it's really hard, dude. Yeah, I get you,

0:48:57.480 --> 0:48:59.840
<v Speaker 2>it's really hard. What are you gonna say it?

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:02.840
<v Speaker 5>It's like really easy to like look at that and

0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 5>think like, oh, look, those people are happy all the time. Yeah, yeah,

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 5>it seems it's it always seems nice, and then I

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 5>try to do it and it's like it makes me

0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:14.680
<v Speaker 5>feel worse than I did before.

0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. What have you been able?

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:22.680
<v Speaker 6>Like?

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Does anything? What does anything make you happy?

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:34.200
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, i'd say I I'm very comfortable with myself. Like,

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 5>like I I ideally I want to like to a

0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:41.360
<v Speaker 5>place where I can feel comfortable talking to people, you know,

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:45.760
<v Speaker 5>But like, as as long as I'm by my by myself,

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:50.360
<v Speaker 5>I feel like I'm pretty chill by myself. I'm playing

0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:56.439
<v Speaker 5>video games. Uh, work is fine, uh, and I run,

0:49:57.040 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 5>So I got really good going myself. I'm not just

0:50:02.800 --> 0:50:05.840
<v Speaker 5>like I'm not just sitting in my house playing video

0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:09.440
<v Speaker 5>games all day. I'm like running and staying kind of

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:14.000
<v Speaker 5>in shape, you know. So it's it's good mentally.

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:19.480
<v Speaker 2>That's great. Yeah, I don't know. I think, uh, I've

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.480
<v Speaker 2>really been I think I've probably talked about this on

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 2>the podcast before, but I've been thinking so much about

0:50:26.280 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 2>how much of like happiness or whatever is internal versus external,

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's a little bit of both. And

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:37.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, you know, of course, uh uh, this

0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>external part of my life, of of my relationships. Maybe

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:46.480
<v Speaker 2>it would be better if if I wasn't alone. But

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:56.720
<v Speaker 2>you can't sacrifice the your internal calmness in a desperate

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 2>attempt to get there. You know, you got to get there,

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know what I mean?

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:08.720
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think so.

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:15.200
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. Delete tender God's side. Uh, eat

0:51:15.239 --> 0:51:18.279
<v Speaker 2>a eat a slice of pizza.

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 5>I do enjoy I don't. I like the sound of that.

0:51:23.440 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 5>I We'll say.

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:30.279
<v Speaker 2>What's your name again? I'm Gabe Gabe. Well, Gabe, is

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:31.719
<v Speaker 2>there anything else you want to have to talk about

0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:32.319
<v Speaker 2>before we go?

0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 5>No, but have a have a great rest of your day, you.

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Too, Take care man, all right later, Gabe? What a name? Gabe? Gabe? Gabe?

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Who is Gabe? What is Gabe? Why is Gabe? How

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:57.320
<v Speaker 2>is Gabe? How is Gabe? Gabe's doing? Okay?

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 5>Hello?

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Hi there? What's your name? Sir?

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Rusty Rusty? I like that name. Yeah. Where are you from? Rusty?

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:17.839
<v Speaker 5>Uh? From Missouri? Then Oklahoma and now I'm in Texas.

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 2>It's quite a journey, yep. It is.

0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:25.960
<v Speaker 5>I'm twenty two and.

0:52:26.000 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 2>H what inspired you to call a gecko on the phone.

0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.319
<v Speaker 5>Dude, I've been listening listening to your show for a

0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 5>while now. I love it, dog, It's thank you. I

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 5>listened to it all the time. I try and save

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:46.839
<v Speaker 5>it for drives. But yeah, dude, I've just been wanting

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:47.839
<v Speaker 5>to talk to you for a little bit.

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Man. Well, was there anything in particular that

0:52:53.360 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to talk about?

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:02.160
<v Speaker 5>Ash? There's been so much, but most recently, I guess

0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:09.200
<v Speaker 5>I moved in with my girlfriend's family two months or no,

0:53:09.680 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 5>it was before two months, when before we were into

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 5>dating or whatever. Yeah, after two months of knowing each other,

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:20.839
<v Speaker 5>they asked me to move in with them, and I

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 5>was like fuck it, wing on and so now I'm

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 5>in Texas for the summer.

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>M H. Where were you? Where were you living? Where

0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 2>were you living before you were living in Oaklands?

0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.759
<v Speaker 5>I was no, I was living in Oklahoma. I go

0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:39.520
<v Speaker 5>to I go to school in Oklahoma, and I was

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:44.320
<v Speaker 5>living in like the campus apartments and school was ending,

0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:47.680
<v Speaker 5>and like we started dating in February and she was like,

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 5>why don't you come, like move in with us? Yeah,

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.440
<v Speaker 5>And the way that happened was I took her up

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:59.719
<v Speaker 5>to Missouri to meet my family, which wasn't a great

0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 5>ex experience. But at the same time, it was she

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:04.399
<v Speaker 5>only cried once?

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:09.040
<v Speaker 2>So why was Why was she only cried once? Why

0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 2>was it a bad experience?

0:54:12.560 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 5>H dude? My family is they're intense. There's six of us.

0:54:17.200 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 5>I have three siblings, and it's non stop, like chittering,

0:54:22.440 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 5>everybody like fighting and ship and it's like it'll wear

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:28.359
<v Speaker 5>you down.

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:54:29.800 --> 0:54:31.040
<v Speaker 5>Everybody's always arguing.

0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

0:54:32.320 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 2>What's the vibe like at her place?

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's amazing. I love her. I love her family.

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 5>It's awesome. It's quiet. She's got an older brother but

0:54:46.840 --> 0:54:49.360
<v Speaker 5>he's moved out. And then she's got a younger brother.

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 5>He's autistic, but he's he's an awesome dude. I love

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 5>to hang out with him.

0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:55.800
<v Speaker 3>Alan.

0:54:56.400 --> 0:55:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Now why why? Uh no? What was I going to

0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 2>ask you? I was going to ask you why anything?

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess you. So, you guys have known each other

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 2>for two months, and how did you meet her again?

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:16.760
<v Speaker 5>We met on hinge dating it meant to be deleted.

0:55:17.000 --> 0:55:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Cool and after two and it's I mean, that's just

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.920
<v Speaker 2>interesting to me that after two months. Her family is

0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 2>totally cool with you just crashing there.

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I know. I mean now it's it's like

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:32.239
<v Speaker 5>four months at this point. But yeah, this happened in

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 5>very much like May. I think, Yeah, this happened in May.

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.760
<v Speaker 2>So you you just graduated, you just graduated from college.

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:43.919
<v Speaker 2>What was your plan going to be if you if

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you didn't end up living with her? Were you just

0:55:46.000 --> 0:55:46.759
<v Speaker 2>going to go back home?

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:51.879
<v Speaker 5>I hadn't graduated yet. I have I have like free

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:55.239
<v Speaker 5>summer housing. So I just left all my ship up there.

0:55:55.280 --> 0:55:56.880
<v Speaker 5>I was going to be alone up there because I

0:55:56.880 --> 0:55:57.960
<v Speaker 5>didn't want to go back home.

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh so you're oh, okay, so you you have a

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:05.720
<v Speaker 2>place to say, you're just staying with her over the summer. Okay,

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so you're just staying with her over the summer.

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 2>It's not like a, hey, I need somewhere to live

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 2>with you. But okay, I.

0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 5>Mean I haven't done anything not risky. But I don't know,

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 5>I just jumped into it. You know, I haven't really

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 5>done anything like that before.

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.759
<v Speaker 2>And why do you feel like you jumped into it?

0:56:28.840 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 5>Ah, ship, that's some heavy stuff.

0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:35.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't difficult question.

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 5>No, You're good. I don't know I really like her.

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 5>I love her.

0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:44.799
<v Speaker 2>It's nice. That's nice.

0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.400
<v Speaker 5>And I knew I loved her when when she asked me.

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:50.680
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, i've been I've been. This last year has

0:56:50.719 --> 0:56:56.319
<v Speaker 5>been hell and I've been struggling. And then you know,

0:56:56.440 --> 0:56:59.600
<v Speaker 5>she came in and it was like everything was happy.

0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:03.840
<v Speaker 2>It is you know, why why you don't have potograph

0:57:03.840 --> 0:57:05.160
<v Speaker 2>if you want to? But why do you feel like

0:57:05.200 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 2>you're struggling? Ah?

0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 5>Dog? So I was dating this one girl for we

0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:18.800
<v Speaker 5>were together for like six years, right, and she she

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 5>cheated in October, and you know that just kind of

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.040
<v Speaker 5>like that kind of broke me, and I let it

0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.240
<v Speaker 5>break me, you know. Instead of going to the gym,

0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:31.640
<v Speaker 5>I just like sat in my room like a rotted

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<v Speaker 5>And then I'm also a student athlete and so like

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<v Speaker 5>that was also tanking. My mental health and my grades

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<v Speaker 5>were slipping, and it's just kind of like a downward spiral,

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<v Speaker 5>like really fast. I don't think anybody really knew how

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<v Speaker 5>bad it was, except maybe the the therapist. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm better know.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice man, what do you was studying in school?

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<v Speaker 5>Biomedical science?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? And you're gonna are you gonna go be You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go be a doctor.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy, Dude, I don't fucking I don't fucking know. I uh,

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like the longer I'm in school, the dumber

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<v Speaker 5>I get, and I feel I feel I feel like

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<v Speaker 5>I peaked in like middle school, and I've just been

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<v Speaker 5>getting stupid or ever since. But I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's how I would feel if I was

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<v Speaker 2>studying anything with the name biomedical in it.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess. But I failed genetics twice, which is what

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<v Speaker 5>I wanted to do. I wanted to be like a

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<v Speaker 5>genetic research.

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<v Speaker 2>You wanted to play.

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<v Speaker 5>Failed exactly, but I failed it twice. Not because it's hard,

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<v Speaker 5>but because I just I gave up this past year

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm sick of smol.

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<v Speaker 2>So, So what's the what's the plan? You're when do

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<v Speaker 2>you graduate?

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<v Speaker 5>I have like twenty hours left, so two semesters. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know, Spring twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you know what you want to do when

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<v Speaker 2>you graduate?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 5>No, nope, I uh maybe masters and like wildlife stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>I like the outdoors. Okay, I don't know, Doug.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still you should you should get your masters in hawks?

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<v Speaker 5>Is this like a hawk to a joke? Are you

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<v Speaker 5>setting that up or something.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, why hawks? You know why? I just picked

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<v Speaker 2>it because it was a fun word to say at

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Hawk hawk. That's cool. I mean you can

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<v Speaker 2>I I that's cool. You're gonna get a You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get a degree in in the animals kinda.

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<v Speaker 5>Butay, yeah, I saw a video of a hawk killing

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<v Speaker 5>the goose the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you on that? Are you on that? Subreddit? It's

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<v Speaker 2>something like nature is Metal? You know I'm talking about I.

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<v Speaker 5>Used to be in. I got Perma Band from Reddit.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't even know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Why? All right, you know why? Why did you get

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<v Speaker 2>pera band from Reddit? I don't know you I must

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<v Speaker 2>have an idea.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't stand dumbasses. Everybody everybody on Reddit a dumbass.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry you got hold on. I got Perma Band

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<v Speaker 2>from Reddit because I can't stand dumbasses. Sounds like you

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<v Speaker 2>know why you got banned?

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<v Speaker 5>There was okay, there was a lot. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>who reported me.

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<v Speaker 2>Who did you? Who did you tell to kill themselves?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, nothing like that. I wouldn't do that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just like a hive line of of I don't know. Next,

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<v Speaker 5>beird de generously, I'll you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say this. I really, I really mean it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I kind of disagree. I think of like all

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<v Speaker 2>the social media platforms like where people are chatting about

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<v Speaker 2>ship between, like Twitter and TikTok and Instagram and Reddit.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Reddit the most, I really do, because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like Reddit is the only one that's like mostly adults,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Because you no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you you got me? You have you got me?

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<v Speaker 5>You you I heard you saying that and I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>this is such, this is some shit I'd read in

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<v Speaker 5>the comments about like I don't know, but no. Reddit

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<v Speaker 5>is was the only social media I had and I

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<v Speaker 5>got banned from it, and like, I don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Now now you're free. You don't you don't you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have you don't have anything?

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<v Speaker 5>No I am yeah, I don't have TikTok. I used

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<v Speaker 5>to and then like it it takes a lot of time,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I just deleted it. And the comments on

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<v Speaker 5>some videos are just stupid. So I deleted that. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't have Instagram. It's a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 2>And what do you do? What do you do with

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<v Speaker 2>your time? What do you do when when you are

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<v Speaker 2>sitting around doing nothing?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, during the school year, I'm like going to practice,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm playing some video games. I'm working out doing school stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>and like now in the summer, I'm playing video games

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<v Speaker 5>working out and I kind of sit on my ass

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<v Speaker 5>all day until it's time to go to work.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, so you're playing video games.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>I I debated. So when I started getting back into

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<v Speaker 2>video games, like, uh a year or two ago, I

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<v Speaker 2>was debating if it was like a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I noticed that I waste a lot of my

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<v Speaker 2>time unconsciously because I'm just sitting and scrolling and re

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<v Speaker 2>checking and this and that thing. And It's like, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna quote waste time, at least I want to

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<v Speaker 2>do it consciously. Like if I'm going to spend thirty

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<v Speaker 2>hours doing something, I'd rather be, you know, taking in

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<v Speaker 2>a good story, piece of art, whatever it is, instead

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<v Speaker 2>of like just looking at random crap on TikTok and

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram and looking at the you know, some person I

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<v Speaker 2>met at a bar once their trip to grease type

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<v Speaker 2>of shit.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh. I see that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, like video games are more conscious choice. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel like my my you can't really like accidentally put

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<v Speaker 2>as much game hours into video games as you can

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<v Speaker 2>to your stupid phone.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, man, So some people some games you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Get addicted toying.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, I'm on like a rotation Rainbow and Diablo fo.

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<v Speaker 5>The other rotation is Overwatch and like Minecraft. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 5>Stardoo Valley.

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<v Speaker 2>Stardo Valet. Oh you're a cozy gamer. Oh yeah, well

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<v Speaker 2>you're a cozy little guy.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll play a little bit of everything, but like I

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<v Speaker 5>like sup not a lot and started Valley is not

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<v Speaker 5>t That thing is it's.

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<v Speaker 2>You're breaking up. You can't hear what thing you're saying.

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<v Speaker 5>That game strees me out. Start.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your name again, Rusty Shad Rusty, you did not

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<v Speaker 2>have to give me your full name. We're gonna cut

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<v Speaker 2>that out. We're gonna we I don't want people looking

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<v Speaker 2>at you up.

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<v Speaker 5>It's from King of the Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>That's from King of the Hills. Yeah, okay, and I

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<v Speaker 2>never watched King of the Hill.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh miss now, well.

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<v Speaker 2>Rusty, you seem like a sweet guy. I hope that, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>everything works out okay with your Like this is your

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<v Speaker 2>It don't sounding like you moved in. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>it's an extended stay.

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<v Speaker 5>No, dude, I thought it would be like temporary, so

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<v Speaker 5>I only have like seven shirts, and like I just

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<v Speaker 5>I like, do launder every four days or something?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it bad? Is it? Is it bad that when

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<v Speaker 2>you said seven shirts, I was like, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>mean you only have seven shirts?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I thought I was gonna be here for like

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<v Speaker 5>a weekend a week.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a seven seven shirts is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of shirts. That's one shirt every day for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, well no, but you were just saying, you

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<v Speaker 2>were saying it like it wasn't a lot of shirts.

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<v Speaker 2>I think seven shirts. I'm just saying you might have

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<v Speaker 2>more shirt Like if you were to combine all the

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<v Speaker 2>people in the universe, like what eight billion people and

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<v Speaker 2>uh like average out however many shirts everyone? I think

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<v Speaker 2>you have like significantly more shirts than the average person.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's that's a that's a slippery slope because the

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<v Speaker 5>average number of fingers on everybody's hands in the world

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<v Speaker 5>is less than ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the fuck out of here, Rusty. Is there anything

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<v Speaker 2>else you want to say to the people of the

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<v Speaker 2>computer But yeah, oh you have two things. Tell me

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<v Speaker 2>your two things.

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<v Speaker 5>Two things. One, I'm the guy that comments about his

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<v Speaker 5>poops on your on your Spotify thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're that guy. No, I no, I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what you're talking about at all.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, dude, you pinned like three of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never pinned anything for I've never pinned anything from

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<v Speaker 2>that Who.

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<v Speaker 5>Keeps pitting my comments then, because I'll talk about maybe

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<v Speaker 5>it's a great, great show.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's the spot Maybe it's the Spotify editorial team.

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<v Speaker 2>They thought your poop comments were worthy of of of publishing.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the second thing?

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<v Speaker 5>You know? I've always thought about this moment about when

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<v Speaker 5>you would ask me this, okay, and I had so

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<v Speaker 5>many great witty things. But now I'm no, that's lame.

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<v Speaker 2>That's lame. That's lame. What what what do you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you just? What are you feeling? What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Be honest?

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<v Speaker 5>Smoke gass and eat grass.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, rest you have a go on you two dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>No, don't don't think of a cool thing to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Just say whatever is in your in your brain. Man. Hello, folks,

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<v Speaker 3>When I was fourteen, my mother sent me to a

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<v Speaker 3>conversion camp in Tennessee. And this was not only for

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<v Speaker 3>like gay people, but like my mom said it to

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<v Speaker 3>me because she thought I was gay. I am, but

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<v Speaker 3>non relevant and so like it was really fucking crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>How long were you in this camp for?

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<v Speaker 3>I was only for a year and a few months.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of time to be in a conversion camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people stay there for years.

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<v Speaker 2>Really what and you were fourteen?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it got shut down by the government eventually, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay to talk about now, Like there's no legally

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<v Speaker 3>I mean anything, okay. And there was a girl there

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<v Speaker 3>that tried to like kill all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a girl who tried to you. Yeah, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have nothing else to say.

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<v Speaker 6>Goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes he's teaching you aloud.

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<v Speaker 5>Life is not expert