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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, is this the get Go?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Hello, you texted me. You said you said you

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Speaker 2: Oh godd ah, you said something. You said. Uh, my

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Speaker 2: name is twenty two, and I want to talk about

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Speaker 2: how I quit vaping to peg my boyfriends. How does

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Speaker 2: that work? Why did you need to quit vaping to

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Speaker 2: peg your boyfriends?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I wanted to quit vaping, but it is

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Speaker 1: one of the hardest addictions to to like get tasked.

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Speaker 1: It's from like the top five according to doctors and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But he knew that I really really wanted to quit vaping,

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Speaker 1: and he knew that I really wanted to peg him.

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Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, if you quit vaping

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Speaker 1: and I'm a single, been a nicotine for three months,

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Speaker 1: you get pegging privileges. You have rights to my untouched asshole.

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Speaker 1: No one's pecked him before and literally nothing's been up there,

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Speaker 1: So how could I say no?

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Speaker 2: Well, so this is uh, your boyfriend has incentivized you,

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Speaker 2: offering up his his little asshole for you to.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna die. Yeah I am. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled to share this story because to all the people

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Speaker 1: out there wanting to quit the substance, wanting to quit something.

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Speaker 1: Just find yourself a submissive ass boyfriend who will let

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Speaker 1: you peg him if you quit it.

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Speaker 2: But just think about how great it would be to

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Speaker 2: like take your hands and like open up his asshole

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Speaker 2: and blow vape spoke into it.

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Speaker 1: Wait, that's such a good point, guy, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: How has it?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 2: Has this been working so far? Have you quit vaping?

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Speaker 1: It is? Yes, it has because I had after so

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Speaker 1: this rule was three months. If I quit for three months,

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Speaker 1: then I have privileges. But then we just I actually

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Speaker 1: I quit in I had my last vapin in August

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Speaker 1: of last year, so I've definitely had August of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, so I've had lots of time to do

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Speaker 1: the deed, and I've done a team bit of the deed.

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Speaker 1: But it actually, after ninety days of now nicotine, it

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Speaker 1: gets like you don't It's still like you want it

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Speaker 1: and concept, but the withdrawals are put behind you.

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Speaker 2: And so has it been It hasn't been three months yet,

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Speaker 2: has it? It has?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? And yeah? Yeah, so how was I've reaped the

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Speaker 1: benefits of my reward.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 1: So what they don't tell you about anal is that

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Speaker 1: you really gotta like build up to that point, and

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Speaker 1: so I've not used the strap on him yet, but

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Speaker 1: it is, it is so positively delightful. I cannot describe

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Speaker 1: to you.

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Speaker 2: So what do you what do you? Is it fingers fists?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't. It also was like I don't

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Speaker 1: have a good time sometimes, you know. It's it's about

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Speaker 1: finding that like from intakeer dominating time, and I didn't

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Speaker 1: want to rush him into losing his anal virginity, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I wanted to find a nice calm time. And

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Speaker 1: there's only been a few times for that, even though

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Speaker 1: it's been been so long since I've had access to

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Speaker 1: its re access to his assle. One time I did

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Speaker 1: clean his apartment and he told me, anytime you want, anytime,

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Speaker 1: I will drop my drawers and you can just put

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Speaker 1: put something in there. And I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you know what? He gave me one free coupon.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like this guy, uh, I mean, uh, it

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Speaker 2: sounds like he always wanted you to peg him, but

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Speaker 2: he needed some little extra thing to kind of get there.

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Speaker 1: This is probably true, but it's funnier whenever it's as

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Speaker 1: a reward.

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Speaker 5: Because we had.

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Speaker 1: Been dating for like a all not a year, but

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Speaker 1: almost a year whenever he threw it out there, because

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Speaker 1: I'd always said I wanted to, but he was always scared.

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Speaker 1: And it was more that after I like quit my

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Speaker 1: like second hardest addiction. Weed was a tough one to quit.

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Speaker 1: But I really worked through that one. But it's he

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Speaker 1: always wanted it, but it's so scary, you know.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: And he's actually in the room with me right now

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Speaker 1: if you ever want to get his perspective.

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Speaker 2: But oh yeah, sure, sure, sure, let's talk to him.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here he is.

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Speaker 2: Ullo, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 3: A right?

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Speaker 2: So are you do you do you vape? Do you

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Speaker 5: No? I personally don't vape.

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Speaker 4: I smoke weed like twice a month. I don't really

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Speaker 5: I just play video games.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm uh, So are you are you? You're not

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Speaker 2: addicted to anything? There's not like a Hey, I'll quit

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Speaker 2: playing video games and I can comb my fingers through

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Speaker 2: your hair type of ship.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not really addicted to anything. I I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't do much.

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Speaker 2: How's how's being pegged? Ben?

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Speaker 4: Gone well, working up to it so far, just fingers,

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Speaker 4: nothing crazy, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: Are you excited about it? Is this? Is this a positive,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: But honestly, the hardest part is just find the hardest

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Speaker 4: time to do it, because like both she and I

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Speaker 4: both live with people all the time, So like just

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Speaker 5: Time where no one's no one's home to like.

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Speaker 4: You know, either catch us or like overhear anything.

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Speaker 5: That's probably the hardest part of all of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, what how many roommates do you have?

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Speaker 5: So normally I have two other people I live with.

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Speaker 4: When I'm in college, but right now I live with

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Speaker 4: my parents for the summer, so yeah, two or three

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Speaker 2: Usually you live with your parents, but so you live

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Speaker 2: with your parents during the summer. Yeah, See, it must

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Speaker 2: be nice when you leave because then they can peg

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Speaker 2: each other because that's what they're waiting.

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Speaker 1: Possibly.

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Speaker 4: Possibly they're very they're very conservative, so I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, here's the thing, the conservative stuff

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Speaker 2: getting a little liberal. Oh god, well, you can hand

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Speaker 2: the phone back to who your girlfriend all right here

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Speaker 2: you go. Hello, Well this was nice. This really made

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Speaker 2: me believe in love again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think we are a perfect perfect match.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

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Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 1: There's one thing actually, something that bothers me is people

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Speaker 1: often abuse the term gaslight. They think it means manipulate,

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Speaker 1: but it's actually based.

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Speaker 2: Off of it actually means when you fart in someone's.

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Speaker 1: Face and you light it on fire.

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Speaker 2: And you light it on fire.

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Speaker 1: I don't know just the actual word comes from. When

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Speaker 1: this guy turns down this oil lamp, it's like gas

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Speaker 1: lamp slowly and slowly, and it's like and his girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: He convinces his girlfriend she's going blind. And so it's

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Speaker 1: actually about convincing the victims that they're actually insane, not

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Speaker 1: just oh he's a manipulator. He's like a manipulator who

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Speaker 1: makes you think you're insane. I don't know, I just

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that there was a parable about a

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Speaker 2: lamp that's like ancient folklore. Shit. I thought it was just.

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Speaker 1: Like a word if you google it, it's actually just

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Speaker 1: based off of some popular play. I'm not sure. It's

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Speaker 1: like a some kind of non musical but a play.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the name, but to the people out

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Speaker 1: here listening, definitely research it because so many people misuse

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Speaker 1: it and the nerd in me is like, oh, if

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Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting because I feel like I've only started

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Speaker 2: hearing that word in the past, like a couple of years,

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Speaker 2: and I guess you're I guess a gas lamp. That's

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Speaker 2: I mean, they were using that in the seventeen hundreds

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Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, but it was so lovely to share the story.

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Speaker 1: I hope all the partners out there can use this

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Speaker 1: as an interesting reward.

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Speaker 2: Of course, take care and enjoy your smoke free and

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Speaker 2: butthole filled life.

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Speaker 1: I'm shall thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Take in the background, he said, wait, let me say

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Speaker 2: bye too, But it's okay. He we we said goodbye

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Speaker 2: and spirit who from?

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Speaker 6: My name is Kapu?

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Speaker 2: Hello?

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Speaker 6: Hello? Is this the gig?

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Speaker 2: Yes? What'd you say? Your name was?

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Speaker 6: My name is Kabukabu?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Kabu? Hello?

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Speaker 6: Gick uh?

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Speaker 2: How how how how can I get you today. What

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Speaker 6: Uh? I have a boyfriend in a different country, and

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure what I should do about the whole

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Speaker 2: Where are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm in America and he's in Japan.

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Speaker 2: He's in Japan? Okay? Is he is he Japanese? Or

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Speaker 2: is he just living there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? He's just he is.

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Speaker 6: We have met in person already, but we met over

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Speaker 6: the internet, and I'm getting maybe a little anxious about

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Speaker 6: the whole moving to another country thing, or if I

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Speaker 6: should have him move here.

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Speaker 2: How old are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm thirty cold he is twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine. What do you do for work?

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Speaker 6: I make pizzas.

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Speaker 2: I got all right, so you can't really do that remotely.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I kind of dropped out of college, so

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Speaker 6: I don't really have a degree. And I know people

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Speaker 6: from America and other countries that have moved over there

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Speaker 6: and have a lot to say about work and good

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Speaker 6: and bad things, and I'm not sure if I should

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Speaker 6: do that, Like I really go ahead?

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, how long have you been talking to this

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Speaker 2: guy for?

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Speaker 6: Okay, so we've been dating for about a year, and

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Speaker 6: I met him in March when I went to Japan

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Speaker 6: for a week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you met him once, you really met him

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Speaker 2: in person that one time we spent.

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Speaker 6: A week together, but we talk like every.

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Speaker 5: Day over the year.

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Speaker 2: Right right, Where in America do you live?

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Speaker 6: I live in Maryland.

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Speaker 2: Live in Maryland. Oh nice, that's where I'm from. What's

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Speaker 2: your life like in Maryland?

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Speaker 6: I don't really like Like I'm from Baltimore. I don't

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Speaker 6: really like Baltimore. I don't really like living here. I've

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Speaker 6: everything like, like all the buses are on time, everything

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Speaker 6: was cheaper. A lot of my online friends are Japanese,

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Speaker 6: so I got to meet them. Like, there's a whole

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Speaker 6: Okay. I mean it's not my first time meeting people

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Speaker 6: Yes, But then like even kind of having a job

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Speaker 2: Do you do you have do you what? Do you

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Speaker 6: I'm working on that.

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Speaker 6: I think maybe either get in community college in and

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Speaker 2: Uh well, well on the ninety day.

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Speaker 6: One, you can't get a job to make money. So

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: I mean I guess you could, Yeah, you could, you could,

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Speaker 2: you could marry him? Why not? I don't know. I

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Speaker 6: I mean, I met him, I like him. It worked,

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Speaker 6: So he works a factory job. He's a nice guy.

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Speaker 2: So I assume he I assume because he works the

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Speaker 2: off to go visit you in Baltimore. Yes, okay, Uh.

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Speaker 6: Japan's work like work kind of like what is it?

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Speaker 6: Culture is different from Americas in which even on your

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Speaker 2: I mean I think I think the long term goal

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Speaker 2: That I know of from the music, And look, dude,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a cool I think it's

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Speaker 6: Thank you, gik.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean don't what I mean? I yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: what how do you where'd you where? Online? Did you

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 6: Like I played this game called have you heard of

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Speaker 6: yo Chat?

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Speaker 2: You met this guy on vr chat? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Like, uh so COVID happened. And I lost my job

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Speaker 2: You know, you felt very you know, like someone cared.

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Speaker 2: How early are we talking?

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Speaker 6: I'm talking like nine eight in the morning.

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Speaker 2: You're getting drunk on VR chat at eight in the

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Speaker 6: Yes, And I did that for years. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 2: That sounds pretty fun. How much Japanese do you know?

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Speaker 2: Are you fluent?

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Speaker 6: I knew enough to get myself around in Tokyo, but

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Speaker 2: Aghana, you said you have fifty friends like you you,

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Speaker 6: I went over there to visit, and there was it

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Speaker 2: That's wonderful. I wait, so how long ago did you

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Speaker 6: Four years? And I started DJing like on and off

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Speaker 2: That's cool. No, I love this idea. I think it's great.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you have a great life waiting for

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Speaker 6: I'll try my best to be patient and work forward.

448
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 6: Sometimes it gets like my brain is mean and I

449
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Speaker 6: end up backtracking and just ruining things.

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Speaker 2: But what what do you mean?

451
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Speaker 6: Like, uh, you know, when you're have you ever like

452
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 6: sabotaged yourself like subconsciously?

453
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: Yes?

454
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 6: Because you feel like you shouldn't be happy.

455
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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, oh yoh, yeah, oh yeah, I know exactly

456
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Speaker 2: what you're talking about. I uh, I, actually I'll do

457
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: a little share I've been. I I kind of I

458
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Speaker 2: kind of go like in and out of going to therapy,

459
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 2: and I got back in and I'm like, all right,

460
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna really commit to like doing this every single week.

461
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Speaker 2: And I went to therapy like a week ago, and

462
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Speaker 2: I I kind of came out of it being like, Okay,

463
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Speaker 2: for at least a week. I'm gonna challenge myself to

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Speaker 2: like allow myself to be happy. Like my therapist said,

465
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Speaker 2: I need to like take a risk, and so I

466
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, that's the risk I'm going to take

467
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: is allowing myself to be happy. Because when you allow

468
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Speaker 2: yourself to be happy, you you you kind of risk

469
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: the idea that your happiness will be taken away from you,

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Speaker 2: whether it's through some something external or just the how

471
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: you know your own brain works. And so that's what

472
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to do is kind of allow myself to

473
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Speaker 2: be happy. And it's easy to kind of you like,

474
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: you can sabotage yourself and not allow yourself to be happy.

475
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: To kind of protect yourself from failure or rejection or

476
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Speaker 2: something else bad. But that's just a shit way to live, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, it's so hard like when you actually do that,

478
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Speaker 6: because then like it leads to you being vulnerable, doesn't it?

479
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 6: Like I feel like that, like I'm vulnerable if I

480
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 6: don't at least put my guard up. And putting my

481
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 6: guard up makes you feel kind of miserable. But like

482
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Speaker 6: the being exposed like that kind of scary gig you's scary.

483
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is scary. It is scary. And the funny

484
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: thing is it's like the ultimate fucking thing is like

485
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: you know, your happiness will inevitably be taken away from

486
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Speaker 2: you no matter what, because you will die. But that's

487
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: fucking a stupid way to live. I think, just always

488
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: thinking about you know this is going to end, so

489
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Speaker 2: why let's never enjoy anything ever? You know, they have

490
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Speaker 2: great seven elevens over there too, They have dude, Like I.

491
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Speaker 6: Bought alcohol out of the seven to eleven when I

492
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Speaker 6: was over there, and I was it was so cool

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Speaker 6: to do. But it makes me wonder, like how do

494
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Speaker 6: they how do you keep people from being alcoholics if

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Speaker 6: you're just gonna have like alcohol.

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Speaker 2: In the seven eleven h The answer is they don't.

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Speaker 6: They don't, but like, yes, they don't, because there are

498
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Speaker 6: people that are drunk on the streets, like I've seen it,

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Speaker 6: like people just passed out kind of like from drinking

500
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Speaker 6: too much alcohol.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just before we go, I do need

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Speaker 2: to ask you this, So when you're getting drunk at

503
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Speaker 2: fucking eight o'clock in the morning, or do you not

504
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: pass out afterwards? Like do you not sleep at one pm? No?

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00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 6: Because I can drink from maybe.

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Speaker 2: Like eight hours or something like the Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I'm a strong I'm a strong drinker.

508
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Speaker 6: It's one thing that's gotten me a reputation with my

509
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 6: my friends over there is that I can help drink

510
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Speaker 6: them if I really tried.

511
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Speaker 2: What's your name again? My name is Kabukaboo, Taboo or Caboo.

512
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 6: It's it's caboo. It's like I'm using my my internet name.

513
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: Okay. Is that a Japanese name?

514
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 6: So it means turnips turn in English. It's like a vegetable.

515
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you turnip because because I'm in America, they're.

516
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 6: Both mean the same thing.

517
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: They both mean the same thing exactly Turnip, thanks for calling.

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00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: Uh good luck. This is a cool uh life. You know,

519
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: I'm also born and raised in uh Baltimore and uh

520
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: so Tokyo is definitely not Baltimore, So I think it

521
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: is not a change of pace could be good and

522
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Speaker 2: I wish you good luck on getting there. Is there

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Speaker 2: anything else you want to say to the people of

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Speaker 2: the computer before we go?

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Speaker 6: Thank you all for the advice in the chat, and like,

526
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 6: if you love someone and they're like in another country

527
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 6: and it doesn't seem like entirely crazy, like you have

528
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 6: other things you can go to the other countries for,

529
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 6: actually consider it, like don't let your relatives and other

530
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 6: people kind of be like that's that's horse shit, like

531
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 6: actually kind of like speal it out maybe for like

532
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 6: a few years, and then do something new. Take care,

533
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 6: turn it okay, Bye gig.

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Speaker 2: Attention listeners of the Therapy Gecko podcast. Do you know

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Speaker 2: United States this year, and that tickets are available right

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Speaker 2: now at therapy geckotour dot com or at the link

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Speaker 2: Whether you're a fan of the podcast or you have

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Speaker 2: episode description. These are really fun shows. They're always wild,

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Speaker 2: They're always unpredictable, and I hope to see you guys there. Hello,

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00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: Hi there. What's your name?

557
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 5: I'm Gabe, Gabe.

558
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Speaker 2: What's going on?

559
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Speaker 5: Who is this?

560
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: This is the Barack Obama?

561
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: Your voice sounds a lot different than it does on

562
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Speaker 5: the stream.

563
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: Well, your voice sounds like a guy's voice. What's up, Gabe?

564
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 5: Nothing much, I'm just chilling.

565
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Speaker 2: How about you what you want to talk about today?

566
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Speaker 5: I guess I guess you saw my text. I'm quite

567
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 5: bad at talking to people. I was wondering if you

568
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Speaker 5: had any advice as someone who talks to I assume.

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Speaker 2: Any people, Like Sure, yeah, sure, I mean you're bad

570
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Speaker 2: at talking. I mean, let me see what you texted here.

571
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Speaker 2: You said, I have absolutely zero ability to start continue conversations. Now,

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Speaker 2: is this with like, uh, like when you're like dating,

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Speaker 2: or just when you're like making small talk, or like

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Speaker 2: with friends or just like kind of like this is

575
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Speaker 2: a general thing.

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Speaker 5: It's I guess it's like a general kind of thing.

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Speaker 5: I'm not too concerned, like like talking to people at work,

578
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: you know, but like specifically with trying to like develop

579
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Speaker 5: friendships relationships, and I don't know, you know, it's it's

580
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Speaker 5: hard talking to people making friends, like specifically, do.

581
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Speaker 2: You have very hard? Do you have any friends already?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 5: I have a I have a few really good friends

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Speaker 5: that I am getting good at talking to, you know,

585
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Speaker 5: but like trying to branch out is like the hard thing.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, I think like making friends is one thing,

587
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Speaker 2: but like starting how to just how to start and

588
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Speaker 2: continue a conversation. I've always felt like the answer to

589
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: that question was just comes out of like a natural curiosity,

590
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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, if you like are curious about

591
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: people and like give a shit, then you just kind

592
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: of follow where that curiosity takes you and you ask questions, right, yeah,

593
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: like yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I was like thinking a while ago, like I

595
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Speaker 5: feel like my my thing that like I have trouble

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Speaker 5: with is that like like continuing conversations. I know, like

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Speaker 5: like making small talk and everything. I don't know why,

598
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Speaker 5: but like my brain chemistry just doesn't like think of

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Speaker 5: those things to ask about like, oh, how is work going?

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Speaker 5: How is this thing in your life going? Like I don't,

601
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I feel like my brain specifically, I

602
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 5: like to talk about things like like games I'm playing

603
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Speaker 5: or shows I'm watching, and I just have a hard

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Speaker 5: time thinking about things that they're doing or things you know,

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Speaker 5: if that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: That, No, that does make sense. I think there's something

607
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Speaker 2: to be said about like trying to enter other people's contexts,

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of what they might be thinking or

609
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: what might be important or interesting to them and kind

610
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Speaker 2: of tapping into that. And I understand that it seems

611
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Speaker 2: like you have kind of your topics of conversation that

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Speaker 2: you're you're comfortable in, like the video games you're playing

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Speaker 2: and your own life. Uh, and maybe it makes you

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Speaker 2: uncomfortable to veer out of those topics. But I would say,

615
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: next time you're in a conversation to maybe challenge yourself

616
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Speaker 2: to get out of that comfort zone a little bit

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Speaker 2: and take the risk of, like, you know, instead of

618
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Speaker 2: talking about Starduo Valley, ask ask the person that you're

619
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Speaker 2: talking to questions about their out of life. This stuff.

620
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Speaker 2: This stuff feels very simple, it really does. Like all

621
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Speaker 2: you have to do is just show interest in the

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Speaker 2: other person. And funnily enough, at least for me, that's

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Speaker 2: way easier than like coming up with shit to say

624
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Speaker 2: and talking about yourself. Right to literally just sit there

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Speaker 2: and listen and not say anything. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 2: easiest thing, you know. I mean, you could just keep

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Speaker 2: asking people because people love to talk about themselves and like, like,

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Speaker 2: similarly to how you feel comfortable talking about the video

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Speaker 2: games that you play in your life and what's going

630
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Speaker 2: on with you, other people also feel very comfortable talking

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Speaker 2: about those things too, so you kind of just go

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Speaker 2: them into talking within their comfort zone by asking them

633
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Speaker 2: questions about shit and then you know you you go

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Speaker 2: from there. Can that make any sense?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I think I'm I think I'm wrapping my head

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Speaker 5: around it. It's I don't know. My brain chemistry just

637
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 5: has a hard time, like its figuring people out. Like, yeah,

638
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Speaker 5: it's something I definitely need to work on, and I

639
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 5: think I will definitely like listen to the VOD and

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00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: like just try to absorb everything you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, are you how old are you?

642
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Speaker 5: I'm twenty two, twenty two?

643
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Speaker 2: What do you do? Are you in school? Do you work?

644
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Speaker 5: I'm not in school anymore. I'm probably not gonna go back. Uh.

645
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: I'm working right now. Uh. I'm a merchandiser. So I

646
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: go into a bunch of stores and stock their product,

647
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: and it's it's not a bad gig for me. I

648
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: work by myself all day pretty much most of the time,

649
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Speaker 5: so I don't have to worry about these things at

650
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Speaker 5: work most of the time.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm mm hmm. Are do you like are you

652
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Speaker 2: curious about other people? It's kind of okay if you're

653
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Speaker 2: not too.

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Speaker 5: I I want to say that I am. There's there's

655
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Speaker 5: definitely people that like, like I'll be I'll be at

656
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Speaker 5: like my friends like parties and stuff, and I'll see

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Speaker 5: people there that I kind of want to talk to,

658
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Speaker 5: but it's hard to break that barrier without like without

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Speaker 5: my friend that is too, Like there's sometimes people at

660
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Speaker 5: work too that I want to talk to. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: it's just when I when I break away by myself,

662
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Speaker 5: it's a lot harder to to do that on my own.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a little trick here, which is that

664
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Speaker 2: like you're kind of you are you afraid of like rejection?

665
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: Are you afraid that you'll try to start talking to

666
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: someone and they just won't want to talk to you.

667
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 5: I think I've always had a very, uh a big

668
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: fear of rejection, so that that could be a root

669
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 5: of it.

670
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the and this is it's difficult, and

671
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 2: I'm still trying to uh kind of get here because

672
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: it's like being secure with yourself is a forever game

673
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: and it's hard. But to me, this secure way to

674
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 2: go about this is to make it a very internal

675
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: game where you're like, look, I'm going into this social

676
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: interaction in good faith with the intention of trying to

677
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: get to know people, of socializing, and you know, I

678
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: want to talk to this person because I find them interesting.

679
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm going into this in good faith, and if my

680
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: good faith is rebuffed, that is in no way, shape

681
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: or form a reflection upon me because I'm going into

682
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: it with good faith. It might be a reflection upon them,

683
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: but that doesn't matter. That's their story, that's not yours.

684
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: And so it's a single player game, and you win

685
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: if you overcome your fear and do the thing and

686
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: understand that, uh you're gumma, you're coming in on good faith.

687
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 2: And you don't win if the other person thinks you're

688
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: cool and awesome, because that's out of your control. That's

689
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: not anything. So the the game is, the game is

690
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: one when you overcome your own fear and and approach

691
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: these situations, uh, in a in a secure, confident way,

692
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: which is so hard to do, you know. Uh, you know,

693
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm talking about it like it's easy. But that's what

694
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 2: I think the parameters of the game of kind of

695
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 2: interacting with society and people is is is it's an

696
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: internal game, weirdly enough, even it's a it's it's kind

697
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: of like an internal single player game. Weirdly enough, even

698
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: though you're interacting with other people because you know, it's

699
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: about you, and it's about if you're doing your best

700
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: effort to overcome your fears, not if other people like

701
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: you or accept you, because that's just out of your

702
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 2: fucking hands. Does that make sense?

703
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

704
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: I think so.

705
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, talking to people is crazy because some people

706
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: are just uh, I don't know, so people are. There's

707
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: another thing I think about, which is the I don't

708
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 2: know where I heard it, but I heard something about

709
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: like the sixty forty rule, which is like, I don't

710
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: know which is sixty and which is forty, and the

711
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: numbers are iffy, but basically, like, some percentage of how

712
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: people respond to you is based on them and how

713
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: they're feeling in the moments and who they are, and

714
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: then of course an undeniable significant percentage is based on

715
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: you and how you're approaching the interaction. And that percentage

716
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: is the percentage that we tend to obsess over, but

717
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 2: we kind of never think about the other forty percent,

718
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: which is, okay, they might be feeling a certain way

719
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: that's influencing how they're going about this interaction. I mean,

720
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 2: other people's responses to you is crafted from years and

721
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: years and years of their life experiences and brain chemistry

722
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: and ancestry and all this shit that is just out

723
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: of your zone of anything, and you can pretty easily

724
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: discount all that and go, no, they don't like me

725
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: because I talked to I said something stupid.

726
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 5: You know. Yeah, I think that's a problem I have too.

727
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 5: I'm just like like I'll talk to people and they

728
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 5: I guess, like, for a specific example, I guess like

729
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 5: if we go into the dating realm. I went on

730
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 5: a date once and I thought things were going good.

731
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 5: I thought we had a good conversation, hitting off pretty

732
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 5: well texting like prior to the date. But after the date,

733
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 5: she just kind of ghosted me yea, and I was

734
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 5: super confused. And it's just it was just all I

735
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 5: could think about, like for so long, just like what

736
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 5: what did I say? What did I What did I

737
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 5: do wrong? And yeah, it really it really messes with me.

738
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, dude. That No. I mean, the dating

739
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: realm is uh, it's insane. No, I mean it's devastating

740
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: man to you. You you go out with someone and

741
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: you feel like you have a connection and you know

742
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: this and that and the other thing, and then it

743
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: just doesn't work out. It's hard it's really hard, but

744
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: you you you really really really have to learn to

745
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: not let it affect your sense of who you are

746
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: because it'll just fuck you up.

747
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

748
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's devastating. You wish it worked out,

749
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 2: but you can't let the fact that it didn't work

750
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: out make you think that you're you know, a piece

751
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 2: of ship, because again, all the all that, all that

752
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: really matters that at the end of the day, I

753
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: think is that you like try to your best two

754
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 2: go about the universe in some amount of good faith,

755
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 2: even if you fuck up here and there, you know,

756
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 2: it's all that really matters.

757
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, just I guess doing my best to not fuck.

758
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: Up is yeah, gold. Yeah, and like whatever, I mean,

759
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: it could just be that like, uh, you know, there

760
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: was no there was no attraction, and how do you

761
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 2: fix that? I don't know, Uh, I I mean for

762
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 2: every for every you know, ten, twenty, thirty, forty, whatever,

763
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: people who don't find you attractive, there's at least one

764
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: who does. And it's a little bit of like a game.

765
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of like just a numbers game

766
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: of putting yourself out there over and over and over

767
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: and over again, which again is is kind of kind

768
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: of can be brutal, kind of can be brutal, but

769
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: you just you got to do it and you got

770
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: to learn to do it in a in a secure way,

771
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: which is hard.

772
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's if we're talking about like, yeah, if we're

773
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 5: talking about like dating, I've kind of like I'm kind

774
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 5: of ignoring that side right now, just because I get

775
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 5: into habits where I like get too into like like

776
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 5: this headspace where I'm like I need to get this

777
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: app and I need to be on the dating apps

778
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 5: every day.

779
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's that's that's I'm telling you from

780
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: personal life experience throughout my throughout several you know, epochs.

781
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: I've had several epochs of my life, you know where

782
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: where I've I've been, uh, you know, kind of kind

783
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: of obsessed with that realm. And that's that's just when

784
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: you know you're fucked because you're like kind of taking

785
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: time away from developing your own life into this realm

786
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: of like I need to find another person to make

787
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: me feel okay. Uh And when when your brain is there,

788
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: you've taken a wrong turn.

789
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: You know.

790
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's really hard, dude. Yeah, I get you,

791
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: it's really hard. What are you gonna say it?

792
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 5: It's like really easy to like look at that and

793
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 5: think like, oh, look, those people are happy all the time. Yeah, yeah,

794
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 5: it seems it's it always seems nice, and then I

795
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 5: try to do it and it's like it makes me

796
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 5: feel worse than I did before.

797
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. What have you been able?

798
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 6: Like?

799
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: Does anything? What does anything make you happy?

800
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, i'd say I I'm very comfortable with myself. Like,

801
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 5: like I I ideally I want to like to a

802
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 5: place where I can feel comfortable talking to people, you know,

803
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 5: But like, as as long as I'm by my by myself,

804
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm pretty chill by myself. I'm playing

805
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 5: video games. Uh, work is fine, uh, and I run,

806
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 5: So I got really good going myself. I'm not just

807
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 5: like I'm not just sitting in my house playing video

808
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 5: games all day. I'm like running and staying kind of

809
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 5: in shape, you know. So it's it's good mentally.

810
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah, I don't know. I think, uh, I've

811
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: really been I think I've probably talked about this on

812
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 2: the podcast before, but I've been thinking so much about

813
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: how much of like happiness or whatever is internal versus external,

814
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: and I think it's a little bit of both. And

815
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you know, of course, uh uh, this

816
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: external part of my life, of of my relationships. Maybe

817
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: it would be better if if I wasn't alone. But

818
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: you can't sacrifice the your internal calmness in a desperate

819
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: attempt to get there. You know, you got to get there,

820
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean?

821
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so.

822
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know. Delete tender God's side. Uh, eat

823
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: a eat a slice of pizza.

824
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: I do enjoy I don't. I like the sound of that.

825
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 5: I We'll say.

826
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: What's your name again? I'm Gabe Gabe. Well, Gabe, is

827
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 2: there anything else you want to have to talk about

828
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: before we go?

829
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: No, but have a have a great rest of your day, you.

830
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 2: Too, Take care man, all right later, Gabe? What a name? Gabe? Gabe? Gabe?

831
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Who is Gabe? What is Gabe? Why is Gabe? How

832
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: is Gabe? How is Gabe? Gabe's doing? Okay?

833
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 5: Hello?

834
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: Hi there? What's your name? Sir?

835
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: Uh?

836
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: Rusty Rusty? I like that name. Yeah. Where are you from? Rusty?

837
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 5: Uh? From Missouri? Then Oklahoma and now I'm in Texas.

838
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: It's quite a journey, yep. It is.

839
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 5: I'm twenty two and.

840
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 2: H what inspired you to call a gecko on the phone.

841
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 5: Dude, I've been listening listening to your show for a

842
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 5: while now. I love it, dog, It's thank you. I

843
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 5: listened to it all the time. I try and save

844
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 5: it for drives. But yeah, dude, I've just been wanting

845
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 5: to talk to you for a little bit.

846
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 2: Thank you. Man. Well, was there anything in particular that

847
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: you wanted to talk about?

848
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 5: Ash? There's been so much, but most recently, I guess

849
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 5: I moved in with my girlfriend's family two months or no,

850
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 5: it was before two months, when before we were into

851
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 5: dating or whatever. Yeah, after two months of knowing each other,

852
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 5: they asked me to move in with them, and I

853
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 5: was like fuck it, wing on and so now I'm

854
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 5: in Texas for the summer.

855
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: M H. Where were you? Where were you living? Where

856
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: were you living before you were living in Oaklands?

857
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 5: I was no, I was living in Oklahoma. I go

858
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 5: to I go to school in Oklahoma, and I was

859
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 5: living in like the campus apartments and school was ending,

860
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 5: and like we started dating in February and she was like,

861
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 5: why don't you come, like move in with us? Yeah,

862
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 5: And the way that happened was I took her up

863
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 5: to Missouri to meet my family, which wasn't a great

864
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 5: ex experience. But at the same time, it was she

865
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 5: only cried once?

866
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: So why was Why was she only cried once? Why

867
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 2: was it a bad experience?

868
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 5: H dude? My family is they're intense. There's six of us.

869
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 5: I have three siblings, and it's non stop, like chittering,

870
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 5: everybody like fighting and ship and it's like it'll wear

871
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 5: you down.

872
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

873
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 5: Everybody's always arguing.

874
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

875
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: What's the vibe like at her place?

876
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 5: Oh, it's amazing. I love her. I love her family.

877
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 5: It's awesome. It's quiet. She's got an older brother but

878
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 5: he's moved out. And then she's got a younger brother.

879
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 5: He's autistic, but he's he's an awesome dude. I love

880
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 5: to hang out with him.

881
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 3: Alan.

882
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: Now why why? Uh no? What was I going to

883
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: ask you? I was going to ask you why anything?

884
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: I guess you. So, you guys have known each other

885
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 2: for two months, and how did you meet her again?

886
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 5: We met on hinge dating it meant to be deleted.

887
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 2: Cool and after two and it's I mean, that's just

888
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: interesting to me that after two months. Her family is

889
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: totally cool with you just crashing there.

890
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know. I mean now it's it's like

891
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 5: four months at this point. But yeah, this happened in

892
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 5: very much like May. I think, Yeah, this happened in May.

893
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,760
Speaker 2: So you you just graduated, you just graduated from college.

894
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 2: What was your plan going to be if you if

895
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: you didn't end up living with her? Were you just

896
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: going to go back home?

897
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 5: I hadn't graduated yet. I have I have like free

898
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 5: summer housing. So I just left all my ship up there.

899
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 5: I was going to be alone up there because I

900
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 5: didn't want to go back home.

901
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: Oh so you're oh, okay, so you you have a

902
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 2: place to say, you're just staying with her over the summer. Okay,

903
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, so you're just staying with her over the summer.

904
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: It's not like a, hey, I need somewhere to live

905
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: with you. But okay, I.

906
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 5: Mean I haven't done anything not risky. But I don't know,

907
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 5: I just jumped into it. You know, I haven't really

908
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: done anything like that before.

909
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 2: And why do you feel like you jumped into it?

910
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 5: Ah, ship, that's some heavy stuff.

911
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 2: I don't difficult question.

912
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 5: No, You're good. I don't know I really like her.

913
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 5: I love her.

914
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: It's nice. That's nice.

915
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 5: And I knew I loved her when when she asked me.

916
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 5: But yeah, i've been I've been. This last year has

917
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 5: been hell and I've been struggling. And then you know,

918
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 5: she came in and it was like everything was happy.

919
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 2: It is you know, why why you don't have potograph

920
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: if you want to? But why do you feel like

921
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: you're struggling? Ah?

922
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 5: Dog? So I was dating this one girl for we

923
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 5: were together for like six years, right, and she she

924
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 5: cheated in October, and you know that just kind of

925
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 5: like that kind of broke me, and I let it

926
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 5: break me, you know. Instead of going to the gym,

927
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: I just like sat in my room like a rotted

928
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 5: And then I'm also a student athlete and so like

929
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 5: that was also tanking. My mental health and my grades

930
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 5: were slipping, and it's just kind of like a downward spiral,

931
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 5: like really fast. I don't think anybody really knew how

932
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 5: bad it was, except maybe the the therapist. But yeah,

933
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 5: I'm better know.

934
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: Nice man, what do you was studying in school?

935
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 5: Biomedical science?

936
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 2: Uh? And you're gonna are you gonna go be You're

937
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: gonna go be a doctor.

938
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 5: Guy, Dude, I don't fucking I don't fucking know. I uh,

939
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 5: I feel like the longer I'm in school, the dumber

940
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: I get, and I feel I feel I feel like

941
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 5: I peaked in like middle school, and I've just been

942
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 5: getting stupid or ever since. But I don't even know.

943
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how I would feel if I was

944
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: studying anything with the name biomedical in it.

945
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 5: I guess. But I failed genetics twice, which is what

946
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 5: I wanted to do. I wanted to be like a

947
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 5: genetic research.

948
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: You wanted to play.

949
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 5: Failed exactly, but I failed it twice. Not because it's hard,

950
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 5: but because I just I gave up this past year

951
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 5: and I'm sick of smol.

952
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 2: So, So what's the what's the plan? You're when do

953
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 2: you graduate?

954
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 5: I have like twenty hours left, so two semesters. I

955
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: don't know, Spring twenty twenty five.

956
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: Okay, do you know what you want to do when

957
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: you graduate?

958
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: Uh?

959
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 5: No, nope, I uh maybe masters and like wildlife stuff.

960
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 5: I like the outdoors. Okay, I don't know, Doug.

961
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm still you should you should get your masters in hawks?

962
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 5: Is this like a hawk to a joke? Are you

963
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 5: setting that up or something.

964
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: No, No, why hawks? You know why? I just picked

965
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: it because it was a fun word to say at

966
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: the time. Hawk hawk. That's cool. I mean you can

967
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: I I that's cool. You're gonna get a You're gonna

968
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: get a degree in in the animals kinda.

969
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 5: Butay, yeah, I saw a video of a hawk killing

970
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 5: the goose the other day.

971
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 2: Are you on that? Are you on that? Subreddit? It's

972
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: something like nature is Metal? You know I'm talking about I.

973
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 5: Used to be in. I got Perma Band from Reddit.

974
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 5: I don't even know why.

975
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: Why? All right, you know why? Why did you get

976
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 2: pera band from Reddit? I don't know you I must

977
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: have an idea.

978
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 5: I can't stand dumbasses. Everybody everybody on Reddit a dumbass.

979
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you got hold on. I got Perma Band

980
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: from Reddit because I can't stand dumbasses. Sounds like you

981
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: know why you got banned?

982
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 5: There was okay, there was a lot. I don't know

983
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 5: who reported me.

984
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 2: Who did you? Who did you tell to kill themselves?

985
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 5: Okay, nothing like that. I wouldn't do that. I don't know.

986
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 5: It's just like a hive line of of I don't know. Next,

987
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 5: beird de generously, I'll you know.

988
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: I'll say this. I really, I really mean it. I

989
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,479
Speaker 2: just I kind of disagree. I think of like all

990
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: the social media platforms like where people are chatting about

991
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 2: ship between, like Twitter and TikTok and Instagram and Reddit.

992
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: I like Reddit the most, I really do, because I

993
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 2: feel like Reddit is the only one that's like mostly adults,

994
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because you no, no, no,

995
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 2: you you got me? You have you got me?

996
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 5: You you I heard you saying that and I was like,

997
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 5: this is such, this is some shit I'd read in

998
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 5: the comments about like I don't know, but no. Reddit

999
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 5: is was the only social media I had and I

1000
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 5: got banned from it, and like, I don't have anything.

1001
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 2: Now now you're free. You don't you don't you don't

1002
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: have you don't have anything?

1003
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 5: No I am yeah, I don't have TikTok. I used

1004
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 5: to and then like it it takes a lot of time,

1005
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 5: and so I just deleted it. And the comments on

1006
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 5: some videos are just stupid. So I deleted that. I

1007
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 5: don't have Instagram. It's a lot of work.

1008
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 2: And what do you do? What do you do with

1009
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: your time? What do you do when when you are

1010
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 2: sitting around doing nothing?

1011
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 5: Well, during the school year, I'm like going to practice,

1012
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 5: I'm playing some video games. I'm working out doing school stuff,

1013
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 5: and like now in the summer, I'm playing video games

1014
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 5: working out and I kind of sit on my ass

1015
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 5: all day until it's time to go to work.

1016
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 2: Okay, well, so you're playing video games.

1017
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I.

1018
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: I I debated. So when I started getting back into

1019
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: video games, like, uh a year or two ago, I

1020
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: was debating if it was like a waste of time.

1021
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: And I noticed that I waste a lot of my

1022
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: time unconsciously because I'm just sitting and scrolling and re

1023
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: checking and this and that thing. And It's like, if

1024
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna quote waste time, at least I want to

1025
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: do it consciously. Like if I'm going to spend thirty

1026
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 2: hours doing something, I'd rather be, you know, taking in

1027
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: a good story, piece of art, whatever it is, instead

1028
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 2: of like just looking at random crap on TikTok and

1029
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: Instagram and looking at the you know, some person I

1030
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 2: met at a bar once their trip to grease type

1031
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 2: of shit.

1032
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 5: Huh. I see that.

1033
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 2: Like, like video games are more conscious choice. I don't

1034
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: feel like my my you can't really like accidentally put

1035
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: as much game hours into video games as you can

1036
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 2: to your stupid phone.

1037
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, So some people some games you can.

1038
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: Get addicted toying.

1039
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 5: Right now, I'm on like a rotation Rainbow and Diablo fo.

1040
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 5: The other rotation is Overwatch and like Minecraft. Oh no,

1041
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 5: Stardoo Valley.

1042
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: Stardo Valet. Oh you're a cozy gamer. Oh yeah, well

1043
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: you're a cozy little guy.

1044
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 5: I'll play a little bit of everything, but like I

1045
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 5: like sup not a lot and started Valley is not

1046
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 5: t That thing is it's.

1047
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: You're breaking up. You can't hear what thing you're saying.

1048
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 5: That game strees me out. Start.

1049
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: What's your name again, Rusty Shad Rusty, you did not

1050
01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: have to give me your full name. We're gonna cut

1051
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: that out. We're gonna we I don't want people looking

1052
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 2: at you up.

1053
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 5: It's from King of the Hill.

1054
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: That's from King of the Hills. Yeah, okay, and I

1055
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 2: never watched King of the Hill.

1056
01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 5: Oh miss now, well.

1057
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: Rusty, you seem like a sweet guy. I hope that, uh,

1058
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: everything works out okay with your Like this is your

1059
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 2: It don't sounding like you moved in. It sounds like

1060
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: it's an extended stay.

1061
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 5: No, dude, I thought it would be like temporary, so

1062
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 5: I only have like seven shirts, and like I just

1063
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 5: I like, do launder every four days or something?

1064
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: Is it bad? Is it? Is it bad that when

1065
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: you said seven shirts, I was like, what do you

1066
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: mean you only have seven shirts?

1067
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 5: Well, I thought I was gonna be here for like

1068
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 5: a weekend a week.

1069
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 2: I feel like a seven seven shirts is a lot

1070
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: of shirts. That's one shirt every day for the week.

1071
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: I know, well no, but you were just saying, you

1072
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: were saying it like it wasn't a lot of shirts.

1073
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: I think seven shirts. I'm just saying you might have

1074
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: more shirt Like if you were to combine all the

1075
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: people in the universe, like what eight billion people and

1076
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 2: uh like average out however many shirts everyone? I think

1077
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: you have like significantly more shirts than the average person.

1078
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 5: Oh that's that's a that's a slippery slope because the

1079
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: average number of fingers on everybody's hands in the world

1080
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 5: is less than ten.

1081
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here, Rusty. Is there anything

1082
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: else you want to say to the people of the

1083
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: computer But yeah, oh you have two things. Tell me

1084
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: your two things.

1085
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 5: Two things. One, I'm the guy that comments about his

1086
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 5: poops on your on your Spotify thing.

1087
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 2: Oh you're that guy. No, I no, I have no idea.

1088
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: I have no idea what you're talking about at all.

1089
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 5: Well, dude, you pinned like three of them.

1090
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: I've never pinned anything for I've never pinned anything from

1091
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: that Who.

1092
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 5: Keeps pitting my comments then, because I'll talk about maybe

1093
01:06:57,840 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 5: it's a great, great show.

1094
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the spot Maybe it's the Spotify editorial team.

1095
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Speaker 2: They thought your poop comments were worthy of of of publishing.

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Speaker 2: What's the second thing?

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Speaker 5: You know? I've always thought about this moment about when

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Speaker 5: you would ask me this, okay, and I had so

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Speaker 5: many great witty things. But now I'm no, that's lame.

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Speaker 2: That's lame. That's lame. What what what do you feel?

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Speaker 2: What do you just? What are you feeling? What's up?

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Speaker 2: Be honest?

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Speaker 5: Smoke gass and eat grass.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, rest you have a go on you two dogs.

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Speaker 5: Bye.

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Speaker 2: No, don't don't think of a cool thing to say.

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Speaker 2: Just say whatever is in your in your brain. Man. Hello, folks,

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Speaker 2: it's Lyle here. That's the end of this episode. But

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Speaker 2: get this, I'm releasing a bonus episode this week. That's right,

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Speaker 2: help support my ability to continue doing this podcast. So

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Speaker 2: here's a clip from this week's members only bonus episode.

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Speaker 3: When I was fourteen, my mother sent me to a

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Speaker 3: conversion camp in Tennessee. And this was not only for

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Speaker 3: like gay people, but like my mom said it to

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Speaker 3: me because she thought I was gay. I am, but

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Speaker 3: non relevant and so like it was really fucking crazy.

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Speaker 2: How long were you in this camp for?

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Speaker 3: I was only for a year and a few months.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of time to be in a conversion camp.

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Speaker 3: Some people stay there for years.

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Speaker 2: Really what and you were fourteen?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it got shut down by the government eventually, so

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Speaker 3: it's okay to talk about now, Like there's no legally

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Speaker 3: I mean anything, okay. And there was a girl there

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Speaker 3: that tried to like kill all of us.

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Speaker 2: There's a girl who tried to you. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 2: want to hear this full conversation, you can sign up

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Speaker 2: that's therapy Gecko dot supercast dot com. All right, I

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Speaker 2: have nothing else to say.

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Speaker 6: Goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.

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Speaker 2: Goes he's teaching you aloud.

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Speaker 5: Life is not expert