1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with 2 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks. 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: You know, over the weekend, I did a couple of 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: MSNBC shows, and you know, I want to talk about 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: one of my appearances, which was on Aimen Mohadeen's Saturday 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: Night show where I joined with my friend and friend 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: of the show, Joyce White Vance to discuss a myriad 8 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: of topics, but one in particular has really gotten under 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: my skin, and it is this um. Last week the bombshell, well, 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: one of the many bombshells that happened last week was 11 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: with regard to Kevin McCarthy And Kevin McCarthy, who we 12 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: know is one of the slimiest Republicans. Why because he's 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: a punk. Kevin McCarthy will talk shit about Donald Trump 14 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: right to one out of one side of his mouth. 15 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Then he'll fly down tomorrow Lago go and kiss Donald 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: Trump's a ring because he realizes that he can't get anywhere. 17 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: He's not going to get the speakership should Republicans take 18 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: back the House in November. So Kevin McCarthy is caught 19 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: on these tapes basically saying that Donald Trump bears responsibility 20 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: for the insurrection, that the Republican Party bears responsibility for 21 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: the insurrection, and that things need to change and things 22 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: need to happen. Right, the comments have been played when 23 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: before the leak actually happened, Kevin McCarthy was asked about 24 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: this conversation that was supposed to be a closed conversation 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: with House Republicans, and guess what it was recorded. So 26 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: you can't even trust your own people, right, because everybody 27 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: is trying to blackmail somebody else in order to get ahead, 28 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: because that's how the fuck the Republican Party has been 29 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: operating under Donald Trump. Nonetheless, two reporters from the New 30 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: York Times discover these tapes and instead of instead of 31 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: releasing them, they decided to hold onto pertinent information so 32 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: that they could then later turn around and fucking sell 33 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: a book. Now you if you've been listening to Woke 34 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: af you all have heard me when Bob Woodward did 35 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the same fucking thing with the information that he had 36 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump on tape talking about COVID nineteen back in 37 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: December of twenty nineteen, when he found out information about 38 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 1: COVID and said on tape, COVID is more dangerous than 39 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: the flu. It is airborne. It is like nothing we 40 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: have ever seen. Then Donald Trump, after saying this to 41 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Bob Woodward in December of twenty nineteen, would turn around 42 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: when COVID finally arrived in the United States to and 43 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: tell us that it was a democratic hoax. Bob Woodward, 44 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: at that moment that Donald Trump said for the first 45 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: time that COVID nineteen was a hoax, could have released 46 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: those tapes to the New York Times, to the Washington Post, 47 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,839 Speaker 1: to wherever and say, Donald Trump is lying. I am 48 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: currently working on my book, which I'm sure would have 49 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: flown off shelves regardless. But you wanted to hold on 50 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: to that information so that you could fucking make money. 51 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: We saw Bill Barr do the same fucking shit. So 52 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: these reporters, right with the New York Times, they get 53 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: their hands on the McCarthy tapes and turn around and say, 54 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: oh no, we're gonna hold it because you know capitalism. 55 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: Amon asked me on the show this weekend this past weekend, 56 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: Danielle d does media have an ethics problem? Isn't unethical 57 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: that when you have information that could literally change the 58 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: course of history that you hold onto that for your 59 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: own personal gain. And I said in my response that 60 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: here's the thing, at some point in time, our democracy, 61 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: your country, has to be more important than anything else, 62 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: and that includes making a buck. Because at the end 63 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: of the day, when democracy falls, right and all agencies fall, 64 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: and you had the opportunity to do something about it, 65 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: and you don't. Do you think that the amount of 66 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: money that you made on that book is going to 67 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: somehow save you from fascism? Do we think that somehow 68 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: that little bit of money right is going to be 69 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: able to withstand the long haul push to full blown 70 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: Putinism in the United States. I don't fucking think so. 71 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: And I'm really really tired of journalists right, the fourth estate, 72 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 1: which is what we call the media, the fourth estate, 73 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: the ability and the supposed ethics around educating the public. 74 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: This is the whole point, folks. Why I made a 75 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: switch in my career into media, right, working at the 76 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: intersection of media and policy, but then full blown into media. 77 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: Why was that? Because I believe that people on air 78 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: telling the truth is what changes hearts and minds. It 79 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: is what wakes people up, It is what shifts you. 80 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: I don't believe in neutrality, not in the face of 81 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: absolute authoritarianism and dictator's behavior that we are seeing out 82 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: of fucking Florida with Desantists and him taking on Disney, 83 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: a private company. Anybody that goes against Desantists is now 84 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: a fucking target. We think that that's how people should 85 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: function in a democracy, that a private company is not 86 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: able to decide that they believe that legislation that is 87 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: going out that is targeting LGBTQ youth, that is targeting 88 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: LGBTQ people, that they shouldn't have the opportunity to speak up. 89 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: This company that brings in multibillion dollars in this state, 90 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: and now he wants to turn around and make an 91 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: example of them. This is who the Republican Party is. 92 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: And if you have information that can stop them from 93 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: steamrolling the country into fascism and you don't do something 94 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: about that, how do you turn around and call yourself 95 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: a journalist? Right? Because here's the thing, folks, let me 96 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: be honest with you. I do not refer to myself 97 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: as a journalist. I did not go to school for journalism. 98 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: I went to school for politics and got a master's 99 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: in education. Right, Like, those are my degrees. I am 100 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: an opinionator, right, that is my job. But for those 101 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: that are journalists, for those that do the research and 102 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: the reporting and all of these things, I'm like, so, 103 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: if your job is to educate the people, and you 104 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: decide that you would rather make money, why should we 105 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: be listening to you? If your job is to educate 106 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: the people, but you want to keep pretending that this 107 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: Republican Party is somehow an ideological party that cares about 108 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: patriotism and democracy, and you know that to be untrue, 109 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: and you keep handling this party that is clearly a 110 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: cult with fucking kid gloves, then what are you doing? Right? 111 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: This is why I scream most days, because I sit 112 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: and I have to ingest more news than anyone should 113 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: probably have to take in, and I look at these 114 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: people and I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? 115 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate folks, real journalists like Aimin Mohadeen who use 116 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: their platforms to call out bullshit, people like Rachel Maddow 117 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: that use their platforms to really forgive people a deep 118 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: dive into what is going on so that they have 119 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: grounded understanding in facts. Right, you can't make decisions if 120 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: you don't have all the information, and what these journalists 121 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: did was hold on to this information about Kevin McCarthy 122 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: and his belief about who was responsible for the insurrection, 123 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: and that Donald Trump told him himself that he was 124 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: responsible and needed to do something, and then turns around, 125 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: literally like a fucking flip flop, like a fucking pancake, 126 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: heads down tomorrow Lago to go and kiss Donald Trump's ring, 127 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: like he never had that conversation at all. And you 128 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: know what my friend Joyce Van said following my comments 129 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: is that she believes that whoever recorded the conversation bears 130 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: responsibility as well. Because here's the thing. Everybody was on 131 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: that call, All the Republicans were on that call. Somebody 132 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: recorded it, right, So why didn't they do anything with it? 133 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: Why didn't they decide again that the country is more 134 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: important than the bullshit manure that this party is shoveling 135 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: all over the United States. I'm just so sick and 136 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: tired of the spinelessness, right, you know. David Jolly, who 137 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: was on the show, said as well, I'm sick and 138 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: tired of these fucking anonymous op eds. I'm sick and 139 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: tired of people not having any conviction, you know, one 140 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: of the people that we also talked about over the weekend, 141 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: and if you have not seen the viral video of 142 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Mallory McMorrow, the state senator out of Michigan, who took 143 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: on her republic one of her Republican quote unquote colleagues, 144 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: who made an entire fundraising email referring to this mother, right, 145 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: this white mother, as a fucking pedophile and groomer. And 146 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: instead of doing what Democrats are so fucking good at, 147 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: which is sticking their goddamn heads in the sand and 148 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: pretending that this bully, the Republican Party isn't beating the 149 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: ship out of them right as it pertains to how 150 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: we are defending ourselves against this very clear and evident 151 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: culture war that they are determined to beat America over 152 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: the head with. She didn't turn her back, she didn't 153 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: run away, she didn't come up with facts and figures, 154 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: she didn't se down with the focus group. She got 155 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: in front of the microphone and she told the people 156 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: of Michigan what this Republican Party is doing and who 157 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: the fuck they are, And then she reminded them who 158 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: she is, which is a straight white woman who is Christian, 159 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: who is a mother who is married and who believes 160 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: right that people do not need to be white, Christian, 161 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: straight and sists in order to be treated with respect 162 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: and dignity in this country. I mean, it was beautiful 163 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: and what I love so much about it and what 164 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Aimon asked me, you know, should this be the blueprint? 165 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: And I said, authenticity should be the fucking blueprint for 166 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Authenticity and passion should be the blueprint 167 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party. I don't need everybody copycatting what 168 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Mallory McMorrow did in Michigan, but I need people to 169 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: start fucking standing up for themselves for this goddamn country. 170 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: And don't come to me, don't come to a fucking 171 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: gun battle with a fucking whiteboard filled with your bullet 172 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: points of bullshit. I'm just I'm tired, folks. I'm tired 173 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: of what the Democratic Party isn't doing, which is going 174 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: toe to toe with a group of people who have 175 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: no problem referring to us all as pedophiles and fucking groomers. 176 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: This ship is not going away, it's actually escalating and 177 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: getting worse. And what mcmarrow did in Michigan is say 178 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: enough is a fuck enough, right, You're not gonna sit 179 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: here and smear me and make money off of your evil, vile, 180 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: fucking statements and think that ain't nobody gonna come back 181 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: at you with some real hot shit. That's what she did, 182 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, where the hell else all the other 183 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: Democrats are, particularly those that are in leadership right, where 184 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: are you? Oh, it's really upsetting that my friend across 185 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: the aisle, fuck that you need to dead that language, 186 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: your friend across the aisle. These people have turned the 187 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: Democratic Party into their enemy. You listen to that lion 188 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: ass Marjorie Taylor Green when she was on the stand, 189 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: one to say eighty times that apparently she needs Gencoba 190 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: because she doesn't. She done lost her fucking memory over 191 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: what she has said on fucking video about Nancy Pelosi, 192 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: about the Democrats, about the steel that happened to Donald Trump, 193 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, eighty times she talking 194 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: about she don't remember. Oh you remember. Let me run 195 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: you the tape back and ask you the question again, right, 196 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: is this you? Is this worse coming out of it? 197 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Were you commerced? Right? And again I want to say 198 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: this too about the attorneys that had her on the stand. 199 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: It's that I don't know because that here was unprecedented. Right. 200 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: It is unprecedented to try and say that this member 201 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: of Congress should not be able to run for reelection 202 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: again because they have gone against the constitution because of 203 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: their involvement in an attempt to overthrow the government. Right. 204 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: But I got to tell you that if you were 205 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: able to bring evidence, I'm confused about why you would 206 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: not show video over and over again of the questions 207 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: that you are asked, asking and her saying I don't recall, 208 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: and then you playing the video and saying do you 209 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: remember now? Right? Do you recall now? Because I need 210 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: to make sure that, like we don't need to have 211 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: somebody's like psychiatrists or psychologists come in and do a 212 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: medical examination to make sure that you are functioning on 213 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: all cylinders. I'm just you know, folks, I got to 214 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: tell you that this weekend and going on MSNBC, I 215 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: was really fucking pissed off because I feel like everything 216 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: around us is crumbling and I feel like the people 217 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: that have the ability And I'm not saying that it 218 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: isn't inevitable what is going to happen, but at least 219 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: I want to believe that I'm a part of a 220 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: party that is willing to fight, that is willing to 221 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: lay it all on the field, and that's just not 222 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: who the Democrats are. And so I'm like, if you're 223 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: not willing to fight against people who are referring to 224 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: you as pedophiles, who are literally labeling every single person 225 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: that is just like your anti fucking LGBTQ bills, right, 226 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: are nothing but bigoted bullshit, and not calling people out 227 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: for their belief that we're going to dismantle essentially public 228 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: education because of this faux belief in critical race theory, 229 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: and then we're going to only in Florida bring in 230 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: one kind of textbook that happens to have financi she'll 231 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: ties to both the Santists and the governor in Virginia, 232 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: Glenn Yungcan. And we think that all is on the 233 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: up and up. I mean, folks, let us wake up here, right. 234 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: This is a it's not even just the biggest fucking 235 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: criminal grift that we've ever seen that began with Donald 236 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: Trump and his family but has expanded to the entirety 237 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party, but it is now it is 238 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: coupled with their white evangelical Christian fundamentalism right and their 239 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: white supremacy. And so if you're not willing to say 240 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,359 Speaker 1: what it is that they are doing and to identify 241 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: who the villain is, then tell me what your purpose 242 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: is in this moment. You know James Carville, who I 243 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: don't understand why Democrats continue to go back to this 244 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: man for advice, who is clearly not engaged or tapped 245 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: into the current state of what is going on where 246 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: he's taught about the fact that Democrats have gotten to woke. 247 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? It's still the same centrist, 248 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: fucking pasty people who are running things and who don't 249 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: want to move too far into progressivism right, It's still 250 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: the same fucking mansion and cinema mentality that is running 251 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party into the fucking ground. Why do we 252 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: think that Biden's poll numbers are where they are. It 253 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: isn't just because of inflation. It's because he ain't got 254 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: no swagger. He doesn't have any fucking backbone. He's not 255 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: going toe to toe and pushing back against this Republican 256 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Party and saying to the American people, this is who 257 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: they are and if it's not gonna be Joe Biden 258 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: then tell me why you haven't tapped in Kamala Harris, 259 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: who was a prosecutor to be prosecuting, as she said 260 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: when she was candidate, Harris prosecuting the case against Donald Trump. 261 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: How about you prosecute the case against the white evangelical 262 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: Christian fundamentalist, white supremacist party. How about you go to 263 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: the American people on a regular basis and remind them 264 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: who they are and that they would rather be cheering 265 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: on Putin right now as he's committing war crimes in 266 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: Ukraine than they would their own president. How about you 267 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: make the correlation and put in the work instead of 268 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: wondering or worrying about what the pushback is going to be. 269 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: They are calling you pedophiles. They are willing to go 270 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: to the fucking gutter. So what are you willing to do? 271 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: You know? And the last thing that I will say 272 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: for this Monday, where I am starting out the week 273 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: already fired the fuck up, is we have already provided 274 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: three point four billion dollars to Ukraine. Now, I want 275 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: to be very clear that the images, the videos, the 276 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: stories that we are reading are absolutely hard breaking. Ukraine 277 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: needs resources, right, but the things that they actually need, 278 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: like a no fly zone. We're not willing to go 279 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: to that extent, which I still believe is kicking the 280 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: can down the road, because I don't know how we 281 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: are going to avoid American casualties in this war by 282 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: sending troops there. Because here's the thing. Putin is not stopping, right, 283 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: he is actually escalating when he hired right his new head, 284 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: his new general, a man who made a name for 285 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 1: himself as the Butcher of Syria because he targeted civilians 286 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: on purpose. That he is suffocating people to death, that 287 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: he is weaponizing rape, right, that he is using chemical 288 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: weaponry that has been banned for use in war. How 289 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: is it that we think that we are going to 290 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: escape this without Putin being put down? Right? So that's 291 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: one thing. But here's the other thing. I was on 292 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: Reverend Owl's show yesterday and Reverend Owl asked me on 293 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: Politics Nation whether or not the Biden administration is doing 294 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: a good job with balancing the resources financial resources that 295 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: are needed for our domestic issues and balancing that with 296 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: what is happening abroad. And I'm going to be honest 297 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: with you, No, they are not. They are not balancing 298 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: these things. And the reason is that Republicans and Democrats 299 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: or are more willing to shell out and make a 300 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: fucking rain for war in terms of the money that 301 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: they are able to put up without a fight, without 302 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: a conversation, without a debate. But if you turned around 303 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: and wanted to give three point four billion dollars to 304 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: COVID relief, to education, to the Green New Deal, to infrastructure, 305 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: then we got to have what three fucking days of 306 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: debate on that shit. It's our fucking money, but we 307 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: don't get it spent on us. But then you want 308 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: to turn around and tell me, well, we're on the 309 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: virgin nuclear war. Okay, I get that we're on the 310 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: verge of fucking devastation here in the United States as well. 311 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: So if you are not able to be able to 312 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: match the resources that you are sending to Ukraine and 313 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: then want to turn around and tell us that you 314 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: don't have the money in order to continue COVID relief plans, 315 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: right in order to continue providing vaccinations, in order to 316 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: continue providing tests that you all of a sudden don't 317 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: have the money, that doesn't really land that well, does it. Oh, 318 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: we can't afford to relieve student debt, but we're gonna 319 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: send three point four billion dollars to Ukraine in two 320 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: months and then say that we need to send more. 321 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: Come on, folks, come on. This country is struggling. And 322 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: to quote Tupac Shakur who said, got money for war, 323 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: but can't feed the poor, that is that is the 324 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: month of the United States. Love a war, Love a war, 325 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: and wars are expensive, not only in the cost of lives, 326 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: but in the cost period. But investing in social safety, 327 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: that's investing in education, investing in clean water, clean air programs, 328 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: investing in trying to slow climate change. Oh that we 329 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: can't possibly manage to do. Get the fuck out of here, folks, 330 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta tell you. Also, I'm asked about 331 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: whether or not Biden, you know, who recently had lunch 332 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: with Obama last week and said that he plans on 333 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: running in twenty twenty four. And then we heard murmurings 334 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: of Bernie Sanders saying that, you know, he's not taking 335 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: running again off the table. And I'm saying, my god, 336 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: if fucking octanagarian white men are all that we have 337 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: and all that we believe that can save America, then 338 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: America doesn't deserve to be saved. Now, if Joe Biden 339 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: decides to run for reelection, that is his prerogative and 340 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: he is the head of the Democratic Party. But if 341 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't decide to run for reelection for whatever reason, 342 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: then I don't want to see the same old fucking 343 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: faces carted out as if they got new ideas. They don't. 344 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: So if the Democratic Party isn't building a bench, isn't 345 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: fighting against the culture war right, and isn't giving the 346 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: American people what they want, then the question is what 347 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: the fuck are they doing? Coming up next, friends, my 348 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: conversation as always with our good friend Glenn Kirshner, MSNBC 349 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Legal Analysts and the host of Justice Matters breaks down 350 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: the latest of where we are with the Department of Justice, 351 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: the insurrection, and the one sixth House Commission. Folks, you 352 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: know that I am always always grateful when we have 353 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: our and Glenn Kirshner joining us host of Justice Matters 354 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: and MSNBC Legal Analysts to you know, bring us through 355 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: the maze of insanity that is the current state of 356 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: the insurrection, the investigations, and the Department of Justice. Glenn, 357 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: another week, another series of things that have been uncovered. 358 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: Right I saw on Twitter when you said, referred to 359 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows phone as some type of treason his hotline, right, amazing, 360 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: tell us the latest on where we are and what 361 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: if anything, any movement you've heard with the Department of Justice. Yeah, 362 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: when you look at the text messages that Mark Meadows 363 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: was fielding as let's remember the chief of staff to 364 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: the President of the United States. You know, it's like 365 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 1: he's running the treason switchboard. You know, Mark Meadows here, 366 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: how can I direct your treason his call and the 367 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: calls and or the texts that he was getting from 368 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: Don Trump Junior, which still blows my law enforcement mind. 369 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: When Don Junior says, two days after the election, long 370 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: before the election has been called, before the votes had 371 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: been tallied in the battleground states, Don Junior said, my 372 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: daddy's second term must start now. That is so deeply 373 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: treasonous in the lay sense of the word treason that 374 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: it really blows my mind. And that Mark Meadows is 375 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: indulging all of this and playing along together with Jinny 376 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 1: Thomas saying, listen, you have to go to war. You 377 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: have to overturn the elections results because there are ballot 378 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: fraudsters being detained right now on barges outside Gitmo, awaiting 379 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: their military tribunals for sedition. Mark Meadows doesn't say, Miss Thomas, 380 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: that's raw, that's fiction, that's insane. He plays along and says, 381 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: you're right, we have to fight and the King of 382 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: Kings will make this right for us. So Mark Meadows 383 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: has earned himself really a Marquis spot on a conspiracy 384 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: indictment for crimes against the United States. There's no doubt 385 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: about it. On the evidence the Department of Justice get there, 386 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: that remains an open question. But you know, these treason 387 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: as text messages that Mark Meadows was receiving and feeding into. 388 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: It's just it's so far beyond fiction that you know, 389 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to know what to make of it. It's 390 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: so absurd, Glenn, because the evidence being laid out. I mean, 391 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: it's not as if we are we're trying to still 392 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: find the smoking gun. Right. There are pages of text messages. 393 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: We have a PowerPoint presentation. We have people in their 394 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: own word, We have Donald Trump standing on the dais 395 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: at the stop the Steel Riley saying go take your 396 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: country back. We have you know, convicted insurrectionists in their 397 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: own words saying the only reason why I stormed the 398 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Capitol Building. Is because the President of the United States 399 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: told me that I needed to. So you have said 400 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: for years now on this show that prosecutors don't like 401 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: to move unless they know that something is a slam dunk. Glenn. 402 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: If this isn't a slam dunk, tell me what is? 403 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me, tell me where the hesitation still lies. 404 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: I can't explain it. It's you can't explain the inexplicable. 405 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: This is a slam dunk, and it doesn't mean twelve 406 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: jurors in a jury box will agree unanimously. But the 407 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 1: point is when you have enough evidence to indict, and 408 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: here we have enough evidence to arrest, to indict, to 409 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: withstand motions, to dismiss, and to convict. When you have 410 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: that kind of evidence, you have to indict. You have 411 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: to stand in the well of the court and present 412 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: the case to twelve citizens in a jury box and 413 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: let them, sitting as the conscience of the community, decide 414 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: if they should hold a criminal president accountable. I can't 415 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: explain the inaction, you know. I'm still hoping we're going 416 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: to get there. I'm hoping the public hearings leave DJ 417 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: no safe haven to decline to indict. I hope they 418 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: have to indict after that. You know, some days I'm optimistic, 419 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: some days I'm less optimistic. But I can't explain the inexplicable, 420 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, and particularly I really want to sit with 421 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: Jennie Thomas for a minute, because we have major, major 422 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decisions that are coming down that we are 423 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: awaiting in June, from gun rights to abortion right. We 424 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: have a potentially compromised Supreme Court justice that whether he 425 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: was actively a part of the insurrection, actively a part 426 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: of covering up for his wife so as not to 427 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: release Donald Trump's records so that we don't recognize a 428 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: number that is there. I if this doesn't happen, if 429 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: we don't even pretend to be concerned about Clarence Thomas, 430 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: pretend to be concerned about the state of our Supreme Court, 431 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: the integrity that is supposed to be this Supreme Court, 432 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: then what do we look like a year from now, 433 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: two years from now, Glenn? If this is if these 434 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: aren't a series of indictable, indictable offenses, then like, can 435 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: we indict anybody? Ever? Here's what we look like If 436 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice declines to hold Trump and all 437 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: of his co conspirators accountable. The twenty twenty four presidential 438 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: election will be the kind of show election that they 439 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: hold in Russia, where the outcome is determined long before 440 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: the first vote is cast, and Putin has already won 441 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: before voting day has arrived. That is what the twenty 442 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: twenty four presidential election will look like. I promise you 443 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: if DJ does not prosecute this criminal cabal, because they 444 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: will have been given permission by the Department of Justice 445 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: to cheat, to steal, to lie, and declare themselves the victors, 446 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: regardless of the popular vote or the electoral College count. 447 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: That's what twenty twenty four will look like. Let's play 448 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate, which I always hate to do, but I 449 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: honestly because I'm really trying to get into the minds 450 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: of the people at the Department of Justice, obviously, particularly 451 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Merritt Garland. What happens if they bring this case, Glenn, 452 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: We've seen all the evidence, we've seen everything right, and 453 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: they lose what like what tell us what? What? What 454 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: could potentially be the repercussions again that make them so 455 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: fearful that they don't want to even bring an indictment, 456 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: that make them so fearful. That is, if this isn't 457 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: a slam dunk, what does this do to the state 458 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: of the Department of Justice, to our government, to the presidency. 459 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: So first of all, I don't believe they will lose, 460 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about that, because they didn't lose the 461 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: Paul Manafort trial, even with a self proclaimed maga on 462 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: the jury. She called herself a maga. She wore her 463 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: red hat to the trial every day, but left it 464 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: in her car, and when she was interviewed after the 465 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: man of Fort conviction, she said, I am a Donald 466 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: Trump fan and I did not want to vote guilty 467 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: for Paul Manafort, one of Trump's men, but the evidence 468 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: proved it. So first and she voted guilty. First of all, 469 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: we're not going to lose. At worst, we suffer a 470 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: hung jury and we have to retry it. I don't 471 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: believe that. I believe we can impanel a fair jury, 472 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: just like we could in Manifort, just like we have 473 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: been in the insurrection cases, and they've been held. They've 474 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: been found guilty jury after jury after jury. But if 475 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: we do lose, here is the message that has been sent. 476 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: If you commit crimes against the United States and your 477 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: high government official. You're going to be indicted, You're going 478 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: to be tried, and we're going to pull out all 479 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: the stops in our efforts to hold you accountable, to 480 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: convict you, and you're going to spend every last penny 481 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: you have on lawyers. Not that that's a reason to 482 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 1: bring a charge, but it is a consequence of bringing 483 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: this kind of a prosecution. And you will be in 484 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: court for the next two years and we will be 485 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: trying to convict you and imprison you. But you know what, 486 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: if a jury doesn't see it our way, if twelve 487 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: citizens say not guilty, which will not happen, I'll bet 488 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: a buck on it. But if they do, it doesn't 489 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: matter because the rule of law has asserted itself. The 490 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: Department of Justice has done its job, and people who 491 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: are trying to decide whether to go down this same 492 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: criminal path as a high government official, they will think 493 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: twice before doing it. In a way, they won't think 494 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: twice before doing it if we don't bring any charges 495 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: at all. One of the last questions for Yuglen because 496 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: we're running out of time. We talk about this each 497 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: and every week. We're running out of time. There has 498 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: been you know, we're seven months up against the wall 499 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 1: for midterm elections. The Department of Justice continues to tell 500 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: us we don't work on a political cycle. Were they 501 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: could care less right that there is an election that 502 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: is coming. If we get clawbered Democrats get clawbered in 503 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: the way that they say that is going to happen. 504 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: What happens to any investigation that is taking place right now? 505 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: What are Republicans just paint the picture? What are they 506 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: able to do if, in fact, like they get power 507 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: back and there's a midst of an investigation, so they 508 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 1: can kill the J six investigation being conducted by the 509 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: House Select Committee, and I'm confident they will kill it. 510 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: They will also try to suppress the results of it, 511 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: which I think is why the J six committee understand 512 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: it's a bipartisan committee with two Republicans. I think it 513 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: understands that it needs to finish its work well in 514 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: advance of the midterms. Issue its report, obviously, hold public hearings, 515 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: which we are told are imminent later this month, maybe 516 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: early next. So I think that is less of a 517 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: concern because I think the committee will have wrapped up 518 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: and announced its findings. But what they can do is 519 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,439 Speaker 1: they can make DOJ's work extremely difficult. They can't kill 520 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: criminal investigations being conducted at the Department of Justice because 521 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: that is still an executive branch agency under the control 522 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: of President Biden. But they can hold frivolous oversight hearing 523 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: after oversight hearing, they can carpet bomb the Department of 524 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: Justice with frivolous congressional subpoenas, and then they will find 525 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: reasons to claim that the people that DJ have violated 526 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: those subpoenas, so they must be locked up using Congress's 527 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: inherent power of contempt, just as Newt Gingrich promised they 528 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: would not that he's a players. He's a piss ant, 529 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: is what he is. But he did make that promise 530 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: that the J six many members will probably find themselves 531 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: locked up. So they can make DJ's work very difficult. 532 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: They can try to defund or reduce the funding to 533 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. They can play all kinds of 534 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: nefarious reindeer games, but they can't stop criminal investigations, and frankly, 535 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: it may end up upping the empty for the Department 536 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: of Justice to make sure it does its work quickly 537 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: and efficiently. So but it's just not good for the 538 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: country if the Republicans take over the House, because we 539 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: know that by their own admission, they have no agenda 540 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: other than retaining power and exploiting it in the dirtiest 541 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: of ways, you know, Like that's what Kevin McCarthy is about. 542 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: That's what I think these latest phone calls that have 543 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: been disclosed between he and Liz Cheney, which are really remarkable, 544 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: and not just for the purient interest, but on the 545 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: legal front, I think they're pretty remarkable. I mean, they 546 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: just they're criming in broad daylight, broad daylight, and I 547 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: just you know, I know what will happen and there 548 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: and their hearings will be on prime time, their foolish 549 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: lying hearings will be on prime time, and I wonder 550 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: how that will shift the public perception of what the 551 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: Commission is doing. Glenn as always, thank you so much 552 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: for making the time to work us through where we are. 553 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: And I hope that next week, when we discuss again 554 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: that there is some movement with this glacial Department of Justice. 555 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: We need something, some signal, some sign that we are 556 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: headed in a direction that isn't over a cliff fingers crossed. 557 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. That is it for me today here on 558 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: Woke f As always were to the people and to 559 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: all the people power, Get woke and stay woke as fuck.