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Speaker 1: How's it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Wingfield.
Speaker 1: And on today's show, we're gonna go around the web
Speaker 1: and the mock draft universe to see who has who
Speaker 1: coming to South Florida for the Dolphins and the draft
Speaker 1: now just over two weeks out. We'll take a look
Speaker 1: at the reported draft visits, talk about those players. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about Mike McDaniel's spot on Mike Silver's podcast, and
Speaker 1: finish up with the NFL's global outreach expanding into Kenya
Speaker 1: and the entire continent of Africa, with one of our
Speaker 1: own players, Emmanuel Ogba, going over as a guest for
Speaker 1: the program from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist
Speaker 1: Health Training Complex. This is the Drivetime podcast. Caroline gets
Speaker 1: us going as she does daily and we are now
Speaker 1: full go into draft season. Really, the draft season begins
Speaker 1: in the summertime, right, but now just two and a
Speaker 1: half weeks out or two days and some change even,
Speaker 1: it's time to start finalizing those boards, stack your position
Speaker 1: groups and needs and just get everything ready for more
Speaker 1: than two hundred and fifty selections during the NFL's ual
Speaker 1: selection meeting, a massive crop of undrafted players, and the
Speaker 1: final major player acquisition period of the off season. We
Speaker 1: know better though than to think that's just limited to
Speaker 1: the draft. We get post June one acquisitions, training camp
Speaker 1: moves and then of course cut down day after camp
Speaker 1: is usually a pretty busy day for the roster, but
Speaker 1: every year every team is allotted thirty player visits into
Speaker 1: their building for that big moment for the draft, and
Speaker 1: those visits can be utilized in a variety of reasonings, right, Like,
Speaker 1: could a player you're dying to get into your program
Speaker 1: be a reason you bring them in? That's would make
Speaker 1: the most sense. Could it be part of a smoke screen?
Speaker 1: And there's a million things in between. That's the beauty
Speaker 1: of the draft, right. Everyone's got the hand they were
Speaker 1: dealt and now they're trying to play it the best
Speaker 1: they can. I can win a hand, I can win
Speaker 1: a pot with aces, I can win a pot with
Speaker 1: seven deuce off suit. It just depends on how you
Speaker 1: play it. I think the gamesmanship at the top is
Speaker 1: a little more intense, Like the Cardinals, who Adam Scheft
Speaker 1: reported on Monday have fielded as many as six calls.
Speaker 1: But even that is that part of the smoke screen
Speaker 1: is that someone with a certain level of interest in
Speaker 1: that information getting out there providing it For someone as
Speaker 1: big of a name as Adam Schefter is what's the point?
Speaker 1: What does it mean? You know, who's the Brian Windhorse?
Speaker 1: Why would the Cardinals do that? So the Cardinals in
Speaker 1: that third spot, to me, they are in the catbird
Speaker 1: seat of this draft, much of the way the Dolphins
Speaker 1: were in that same position back in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: Part of it is a luck of the draw for sure,
Speaker 1: but you typically wind up with this formula to get
Speaker 1: that ideal draft position, good quarterback class. You already have
Speaker 1: your quarterback and your sandwiched by teams that have needs
Speaker 1: at quarterbacks. So the quarterback kind of a big deal.
Speaker 1: But you know that if you're a football fan. In
Speaker 1: our situation back in twenty twenty one, Drevor Lawrence was
Speaker 1: billed as in John Elway Andrew Luck level prospects, so
Speaker 1: that was always a given. Then the Jets had the
Speaker 1: second pick and could have been Fields, it could have
Speaker 1: been Lance, but it was Zach Wilson. Then you had Fields,
Speaker 1: Lands and mac Jones as players who were rumored to
Speaker 1: be worthy of that third overall pick for the Niners.
Speaker 1: After a trade up. There was a long period of
Speaker 1: time when folks were convinced it was mac Jones, but
Speaker 1: sure enough it was Trey Lance, so so much so
Speaker 1: that Miami was able to extract some extra picks still Land,
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle, which in hindsight, aren't you glad that move happened,
Speaker 1: and later use those picks in part to get players
Speaker 1: like Tyreek Hill, Javon Holland, and Bradley Chubb not bad? Right?
Speaker 1: Can the Cardinals do that now? Because with the Colts
Speaker 1: picking fourth and Gardner Minshew go Coogs as their current
Speaker 1: QB one, they're pretty clearly in the quarterback market. I mean,
Speaker 1: unless you think Sam Ellingar is going to be a
Speaker 1: superstar quarterback or has already showing you so much, or
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew is a guy that you build your program around,
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised if it's not a quarterback in that spot.
Speaker 1: But that's how the draft b Sometimes they're surprises. Every
Speaker 1: single time we get into this period of the year.
Speaker 1: Most people think it's going to be Shroud young one too.
Speaker 1: In some order to Caroline and Houston, the Panthers make
Speaker 1: that move to find their franchise quarterback for Frank Reich,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. They're not going to go up
Speaker 1: there and take an offensive tackle or Will Anderson, the
Speaker 1: top pass rusher in this year's class. But I'm so
Speaker 1: happy for Reich that he finally gets a young, really
Speaker 1: good quarterback to groom and to develop, because he never
Speaker 1: had that in Indianapolis, and it was just year after
Speaker 1: year a veteran quarterback that didn't work out. Really Rivers did.
Speaker 1: But after that not so much. Now. The Texans could
Speaker 1: conceivably pass and come back later for someone like Will
Speaker 1: Levis or maybe Hendon Hooker, but if they love one
Speaker 1: of the top two quarterbacks in the draft, it's pretty
Speaker 1: hard to imagine they would do that. Even still, that
Speaker 1: would just push another quarterback into the third spot, one
Speaker 1: of the top two quarterbacks, rather for the Cardinals to
Speaker 1: move off of. So they have to find a way
Speaker 1: to either get the most capital from a team who
Speaker 1: wants to come up or stick and pick. I think
Speaker 1: the value says make the trade. But that's what makes
Speaker 1: the draft great, right, especially when you get trade activity
Speaker 1: to the top. And that's what quarterbacks do for a
Speaker 1: draft class. That's why last year's draft class to me,
Speaker 1: not as much fun twenty twenty one and this year
Speaker 1: much more fun. The poker game very fun. And that's
Speaker 1: all a prelude into the Miami Dolphins draft visits. These
Speaker 1: visits are akin going back to our theme to the
Speaker 1: rounds of a poker game, before you turn your cards
Speaker 1: up and reveal what everybody possesses. Do you have those aces?
Speaker 1: Do you have that seven deuce? And those are the
Speaker 1: most generic card combinations you can possibly have. For the
Speaker 1: top level, and then the outhouse on the other end,
Speaker 1: castle versus out house. But gamesmanship, reading of situations, predictive thinking.
Speaker 1: I mean, the former poker dealer in me has a
Speaker 1: ry smile just talking about how much fun all that
Speaker 1: is to execute. Even as a dealer, I would try
Speaker 1: to predict people's hands based upon their actions. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what NFL gms and decision makers have to do
Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks here. Over the course
Speaker 1: of the draft. It's it's all hearsay and finding out
Speaker 1: what's actually true and what does smoke. It's fun, man.
Speaker 1: So it's a thirty visits who knows what they actually
Speaker 1: mean outside of the people conducting the visits and the
Speaker 1: draft prep process. And then there's the fact that there's
Speaker 1: reported visits compared to confirmed visits, because we only know
Speaker 1: about what's been reported so far and reported to be.
Speaker 1: Checking in with the Dolphins and talking about these four
Speaker 1: players and their games. We heard about these reports from
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Carl Brooks from Bowling Green and my buddy
Speaker 1: Kevin Dern's a big fan of Carl Brooks's games, but
Speaker 1: I chance to go back and watch him a while
Speaker 1: back and if you haven't had a chance to watch him,
Speaker 1: go ahead and rectify that he might be a bit
Speaker 1: of a tweener because he's at two hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: six pounds, and that's kind of where you know, Wilkins
Speaker 1: and Seeler, they're a little bit heavier than that, But
Speaker 1: that's kind of the idea of that weight class and
Speaker 1: that position and more of a you know, three technique
Speaker 1: five technique out to you know, potentially a six or seven.
Speaker 1: But he led Bowling green and sacks all five years
Speaker 1: of his college career. He was first team All Conference
Speaker 1: this year plays at six three two ninety six. But
Speaker 1: what really pops off the tape when you watch him
Speaker 1: is the quickness in that first step. Do you remember
Speaker 1: how much I marveled over how fast Adam Butler got
Speaker 1: off the football that one year down here? It really
Speaker 1: reminds me of that. Plus you can just see the
Speaker 1: experience of those five years in college with how he
Speaker 1: attacks different blockers with a unique rush plan every single rep.
Speaker 1: But how he understands how to convert speed to power,
Speaker 1: how to go from run game to pass game. All
Speaker 1: of that I thought really translated well to the one
Speaker 1: on one drills. At the Senior Bowl when he was
Speaker 1: pretty dominant against the offensive line on the other side
Speaker 1: across from him. His hands and feet are really hardwired together,
Speaker 1: and that's something that can take a lot of time
Speaker 1: for players to develop. So for Carl Brooks having five
Speaker 1: years there in college, he kind of figured that out
Speaker 1: a little bit and I think it makes him a
Speaker 1: potentially productive player from day number one in the NFL
Speaker 1: at the edge position. Garrett Wilson from Nebraska tried typing
Speaker 1: this guy's aiming on Google and it kept coming up
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, So if you try to find him, he
Speaker 1: might have some difficulty of doing that. But the pride
Speaker 1: of the corn Huskers program the last six years. He
Speaker 1: was their emotional leader, not to mention their production leader.
Speaker 1: He kind of reminds me of Hubert Wyatt from Kansas
Speaker 1: State a few years ago, and you just see the effort,
Speaker 1: like pop off tape, like hair on fire. You recognize
Speaker 1: where he is every single snap. He talied twenty and
Speaker 1: a half tackles for lost last two seasons. That was
Speaker 1: his claim to fame upfront, playing a big, big edge role.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about his role, but as a player
Speaker 1: his size, he was a big player off that position.
Speaker 1: Linebacker to marv An Overshown from Texas was rumored to
Speaker 1: be a thirty visit. I love these safety converted to
Speaker 1: linebacker players. Man. He comes with exceptional length and twitchy
Speaker 1: athletic ability, and that combination together always intrigues me. To me,
Speaker 1: you turn on the tape and you see a immediate
Speaker 1: core special teamer, a guy that you can sign as
Speaker 1: a u DFA, makes your club and gives you eighteen
Speaker 1: snaps a week on special teams because he flies all
Speaker 1: over the field, plays with tons of passion, and can
Speaker 1: contribute in that area. I think right away as a rookie,
Speaker 1: and you think he's also a candidate talking about the
Speaker 1: length and athletic sism combo for those sub package roles
Speaker 1: early on in his career, and we know the coach
Speaker 1: Fangio in the past has rolled out a lot of
Speaker 1: dB linebacker heavy packages where you pull your defensive lineman
Speaker 1: or your non pass rushers off the field and get
Speaker 1: more pass coverage guys in those long down distances. That's
Speaker 1: what I think of when I think of to marv
Speaker 1: An Overshowing from Texas and then cornerback Anthony Johnson from
Speaker 1: Virginia is a local product, went to Nova High School
Speaker 1: here in Davy, transferred to a private school in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: shamanad Madonna. Prepp began his career at Louisville before transferring
Speaker 1: to Virginia and seeing in his scattering report from Dane
Speaker 1: Brugler that his ability to disrupt at the line causes
Speaker 1: a lot of timing issues for opposing offenses. We've seen
Speaker 1: both X and Jalen excel with this for years at
Speaker 1: the cornerback position. I thought kater co who was very good,
Speaker 1: especially in the way he attacks the running game and
Speaker 1: is the screen game as a cornerback pressed up on
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But Johnson's a great tackle or
Speaker 1: two with premier ball production. That's kind of two traits
Speaker 1: of the modern cornerback. Find the football and tackle the football.
Speaker 1: And that's what our guys do. I think, really, you know,
Speaker 1: so makes sense that Anthony Johnson would be on the
Speaker 1: Dolphins radar in that sense. But everybody praises this aspect
Speaker 1: as well, which goes a long way under coach Fangio.
Speaker 1: How studied he is and how smart of a player
Speaker 1: he is, that's so paramount in this man match zone
Speaker 1: match coverage scheme of Vic Fangio that can be heavy
Speaker 1: in rules and different portions of the playbook that require
Speaker 1: you to know what the hell you're doing out there.
Speaker 1: So a fun exercise, a chance to look at some
Speaker 1: players that I had previously not except for Carl Brooks.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and take our first break right there
Speaker 1: and come back on the other side and talk about
Speaker 1: the major draft publications, what are they saying, and do
Speaker 1: a little mock draft roundup as well. That's next Drivetime Podcast,
Speaker 1: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by Auto Nation.
Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday here on the Drivetime Podcast. We're talking
Speaker 1: all things draft and I wanted to go around the
Speaker 1: web here a little bit. Not a whole lot going
Speaker 1: on in terms of the big time riders that you've
Speaker 1: grown accustomed to. It's just kind of a quiet time
Speaker 1: right now in the NFL. Free agency has kind of
Speaker 1: slowed down. The draft is you know, boards are not finalized.
Speaker 1: We are starting to get some of the draft guides
Speaker 1: coming out though, and Dane Brugler talked about him a
Speaker 1: little bit earlier from the Athletic just dropped the beast.
Speaker 1: If you don't have an athletic subscription. The Beast alone
Speaker 1: is worth it because he just puts in so much
Speaker 1: work and there's great detail there. Not just about there.
Speaker 1: They're scouting the players in terms of what they are
Speaker 1: in the football field, but the behind the scenes, which
Speaker 1: I love that stuff from Dane. He gives. It's a
Speaker 1: great job every year of really getting good intel on
Speaker 1: all of these players before we do that through real
Speaker 1: quick a quick departure. I think A big tip of
Speaker 1: the cap to John Ram for his performance and the
Speaker 1: Masters over the weekend. Also Viva Lapga Man was great
Speaker 1: to see him pulled out over brooks Kepka, who I actually,
Speaker 1: you know, brooks kep gets a lot of crap for,
Speaker 1: you know, his confidence and his brash attitude, but I
Speaker 1: tend to, you know, think he's a pretty good golfer
Speaker 1: and I like that confidence in any athlete. The Heat
Speaker 1: play in game tonight. Let's go Heat. Let's get that win.
Speaker 1: Even though this year has been exhausting. As a Heat fan,
Speaker 1: I kind of I hope they get upsets when in
Speaker 1: the first series of the year of the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: we'll see. I do expect him to roll over the
Speaker 1: Hawks and the Mariners got it rolling again, but a
Speaker 1: brutal loss on Sunday where they blew two a pair
Speaker 1: of two run leads in the extra frame. That was
Speaker 1: that was rough to see. Let's go back to football
Speaker 1: here and go around the web. Peter King didn't have
Speaker 1: anything Dolphins related this week, but I always enjoy, enjoy,
Speaker 1: enjoy draft scuttle, but this time of year, he says
Speaker 1: that Bryce Young and the Panthers is seemingly becoming more likely,
Speaker 1: which to me is funny because we just talked about
Speaker 1: on the Friday podcast from Bruce Feldman on The Athletic
Speaker 1: that it was going to be c J. Stroud. So
Speaker 1: that's why the draft was fun. Man. We never know
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. But Peter also said the more
Speaker 1: people he talks to, the more he thinks that these
Speaker 1: mocks are going to wind up laughable, which they usually are.
Speaker 1: Expect surprises, he says, which is also interesting, paired with
Speaker 1: a tweet that I saw on Monday morning. I forget
Speaker 1: the author and forgive me for blanking on this. Look.
Speaker 1: I'm a tired father of two right now. Man. He
Speaker 1: said they expect maybe two but likely one receiver to
Speaker 1: go in the first round. Compared to the mock drafts
Speaker 1: that have four or five guys going off the board,
Speaker 1: and he said, the one guy to look for is
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and jigbu So I guess for Quinton Johnston,
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers and all those guys. I hope that happens
Speaker 1: because to me, the Dolphins with that second round pick,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna look at the start of Day
Speaker 1: two is potential trade up territory where typically teams do
Speaker 1: want to come up and get whatever position group has been.
Speaker 1: You know, I guess solely from the first round at
Speaker 1: that point, and if a couple of big time receivers fall,
Speaker 1: maybe that means some tackles didn't go that high, or
Speaker 1: you know, tight ends or whatever it might be, could
Speaker 1: be the ones that fill in those spots a little
Speaker 1: bit later on into the fifties where the Dolphins pick.
Speaker 1: How about this fact, it's a total random fact. Mississippi
Speaker 1: States Emmanuel Forbes. We talked to him at the combine.
Speaker 1: He had a Florida Marlin's hat on. He used to
Speaker 1: throw ninety five miles per hour on the arm until
Speaker 1: he had an arm injury and decided to just go
Speaker 1: exclusively to football in his sports career. That's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy eight pound cornerback. He's throw ninety
Speaker 1: five mile an hour. Jetta. That's like chet Steadman manque
Speaker 1: the guitar. No no, no no, no, no, no no woo. Do
Speaker 1: you guys get that reference I do before we go
Speaker 1: to these mocks. I'm not gonna lie. I'm happy that
Speaker 1: O b J chose Baltimore and we don't have to
Speaker 1: see him with the Jets. I still think he's one
Speaker 1: of the best route runners in the game, and he's
Speaker 1: always a challenge to cover. So we will see him
Speaker 1: once this year, but not twice unless it's in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So Baltimore, if you can pick the playoffs, you might
Speaker 1: see him twice. Also run the web. How about mock
Speaker 1: draft season. Let's go ahead and go over a few
Speaker 1: of these. Pro Football Focus has the Dolphins taking Jamir
Speaker 1: Gibbs at fifty one, the running back out of Obama,
Speaker 1: and wide receiver Tank Dell out of Houston at eighty four. Now, Gibbs,
Speaker 1: I talked about him a lot here, electric great pass catcher.
Speaker 1: I listened to the Movie Sticks podcast over the weekend
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jeremiah talked about him being a guy that
Speaker 1: they focus you focus getting touches too overcarries, and that
Speaker 1: he will contribute in the passing game just as much
Speaker 1: as the running game. Tank Dell would be just a
Speaker 1: ridiculous addition to this wide receiver corps. I know that's
Speaker 1: a position that doesn't seem like a need, but I'm
Speaker 1: all about adding to your strengths. And I think that
Speaker 1: Dell does two things as well as anybody else in
Speaker 1: this draft, and they are the things that I think
Speaker 1: separate Tyreek and Jalen from the rest of the football world.
Speaker 1: The speed and the mastery of the craft of route running.
Speaker 1: Go back and watch Dell's college tape or the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. There's just not much blanket coverage at
Speaker 1: any phase of the route. At the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: up the stem, at the top of the route, at
Speaker 1: the catchpoint. Guys have a hard time staying close to him,
Speaker 1: and people will say that he's so slight that he
Speaker 1: can't get off the line. Go watch the tape, man,
Speaker 1: like I'm tired of these takes that don't include watching tape.
Speaker 1: Just I'll raise you. Go watch the tape and tell
Speaker 1: me if that's all the commentary you have, because if
Speaker 1: you watch the tape, you're not going to have that impression.
Speaker 1: He could off the line just fine, in the same
Speaker 1: way DeVante Smith did at Alabama. ESPN's Todd McShay has
Speaker 1: us taking Dewan Jones, the offensive tackle out of Ohio State,
Speaker 1: at pick fifty one. And this one's interesting to me
Speaker 1: because remember we talked on the Friday Show about that
Speaker 1: Bruce Felban mock once again that only had four offensive
Speaker 1: linemen going in the first round, and in that scenario,
Speaker 1: you could potentially see a player with this type of
Speaker 1: upside that Dewan Jones features at pick fifty one. He's massive,
Speaker 1: biggest player and biggest wingspan in the draft, but he
Speaker 1: can get off the ball and that's important. And I
Speaker 1: played this sound by on the podcast back when he
Speaker 1: was hired with Mike McDaniel talking about offensive line prototypes
Speaker 1: over a year ago. Now we heard him talk about
Speaker 1: several times this year firing off the football and having
Speaker 1: to relearn how to play the position that's a little
Speaker 1: more reactive, whereas in this he wants you to come off,
Speaker 1: you know, proactive, and go fire off the football and
Speaker 1: go hit somebody and run. He talked about the offensive
Speaker 1: line in San Francisco having a smaller group, but how
Speaker 1: that wasn't by design and they didn't just invest, you know,
Speaker 1: top two round picks to get the players where that's
Speaker 1: typically where you find your physical marvels. Right. The guys
Speaker 1: that go on top of the draft typically have something
Speaker 1: that produces high level upside. So if they can run, jump,
Speaker 1: and they're huge, that typically puts them in a good
Speaker 1: position to do that. But he had this comment with
Speaker 1: regards to a question about the drafting of Aaron Banks,
Speaker 1: who is six ft five, three hundred and forty pounds,
Speaker 1: and if it signals a potential change, and coach had said,
Speaker 1: we'd prefer everyone to be four hundred pounds six foot
Speaker 1: ten if you can engineer that. It's a great coach
Speaker 1: quote right there. But he talked further about the selection
Speaker 1: of Banks and if that was a hint towards a
Speaker 1: change in scheme, and he said, we weren't looking through
Speaker 1: a vision of changing anything. We thought this is a
Speaker 1: guy quick enough that on that second level could attach
Speaker 1: to the defenders. Yeah, we like that he's big. He's
Speaker 1: just going to have to run fast while being big.
Speaker 1: And we felt like he's a candidate to do that
Speaker 1: end quote. So Jones, going back to the Ohio State prospect,
Speaker 1: is six foot eight, He's three hundred and seventy four pounds.
Speaker 1: His forty and twenty splits were in the thirty six
Speaker 1: and forty first percent tile. His ten split just sixteenth
Speaker 1: percent TILE. But you can see those movement skills in
Speaker 1: the first two times because he's packing an extra thirty
Speaker 1: or forty pounds of weight more than most of his
Speaker 1: contemporary He's like, remember Jake Long got drafted by US
Speaker 1: back in O eight and he was six ft six,
Speaker 1: three thirty and had six pack abs, which was crazy,
Speaker 1: but three hundred and thirty pounds. Duwan Jones has thirty
Speaker 1: four pounds on that, which should honestly equate to a
Speaker 1: much worse time, but it didn't. He wasn't that far
Speaker 1: off from being like average time. That's great. So I
Speaker 1: saw that his relative athletics score profile compares pretty similar
Speaker 1: to what Shrent Brown did, who had a great NFL career,
Speaker 1: most of that with the Patriots and the n forty
Speaker 1: niners as well. But very interesting stuff there from Duan Jones.
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid, a big friend of the podcast here has
Speaker 1: us taking Jamir Gibbs at fifty one, which I love that.
Speaker 1: But here's a prospect who I hadn't gotten around too
Speaker 1: much until later in the process that I am suddenly
Speaker 1: very intrigued by. And you heard Matt Waldman talk about him.
Speaker 1: Was it last Wednesday? I forget when that was Luke
Speaker 1: Schoonmaker from Michigan. This might be the best blocking tight
Speaker 1: end of the class, sands Darnell Washington, but he doesn't
Speaker 1: just give you that extra gap in the run game,
Speaker 1: like he can climb to that second level and attached
Speaker 1: to linebackers, he can widen the edge in the sense
Speaker 1: that he kind of makes everything look the same to
Speaker 1: force that outside rush move and then just wall off,
Speaker 1: and that creates a massive ce gap, the gap between
Speaker 1: the tight end and the right tackle in this instance
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at, making that gap larger for the
Speaker 1: running back to hit, which is where we run a
Speaker 1: lot of our aiming points for the running back and
Speaker 1: outside zone schemes, right, So it generates explosive plays when
Speaker 1: you open up that gap in the way that Shootmaker can.
Speaker 1: And I just like the attention to detail that he
Speaker 1: has as a blocker. He stays really tight into his gap,
Speaker 1: which doesn't afford opportunities for other guys to shoot those gaps.
Speaker 1: He stays square to his target as a blocker, which
Speaker 1: you know, it's like playing basketball right between your man
Speaker 1: and the hoop. Does a good job of just kind
Speaker 1: of staying where he needs to be and then effectively
Speaker 1: walls off. Then he runs like a man possessed with
Speaker 1: a football in his hands. Supernatural hands too, by the way,
Speaker 1: really smooth hands catcher. But to prove his athletic capabilities,
Speaker 1: nine point eight five rasts the relative athletics scorecard, that's
Speaker 1: seventeenth all time out of one thirty nine tight ends
Speaker 1: going back to Rass's creation in nineteen eighty seven. That's
Speaker 1: a good year my birth year. Ninetieth percentile or better
Speaker 1: and broad forty and twenty splits and the three cone.
Speaker 1: Those are all measurements that track your athletic ability, your
Speaker 1: change of direction, your explosives in the lower half. So
Speaker 1: I know that those numbers don't always mean something to everybody,
Speaker 1: but just know that they're good. Ninety percentile on any
Speaker 1: workout metric. That's a good place to be. So I
Speaker 1: think what I like most about his game but he
Speaker 1: doesn't tip your tendencies and what I mean by that.
Speaker 1: He looks the same flying off the ball to go
Speaker 1: scoop a sam linebacker as a block or in the
Speaker 1: blocking game as he does running a corner route to
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone off play pass. It
Speaker 1: looks the same. So like your low red zone options,
Speaker 1: with a guy like him on your offense really increases
Speaker 1: both the defense's ability to be confused and the defense's
Speaker 1: ability to react late because of what he can do.
Speaker 1: It's a big time get when you have a player
Speaker 1: like that. If he can develop into that as a
Speaker 1: pro first round pick quality all day. We'll see if
Speaker 1: he makes it there at a fifty one check while
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid has him there at freaking eighty one, so
Speaker 1: we'll see. Chad Ruter nfl dot Com has Sam Laporta
Speaker 1: at fifty one from Iowa and Derek Hall at eighty
Speaker 1: one from Auburn. Laporta we touched on that one earlier
Speaker 1: in the podcast, or I should say earlier last week.
Speaker 1: With Matt Waldman just an absolute maven with the ball
Speaker 1: in his hand. I think he can replace some of
Speaker 1: your receiver production because of his run after catch and
Speaker 1: his ability in the flat screen game, you know, short pass,
Speaker 1: his quarterback stands up, throws it out quick and go
Speaker 1: break a tackle, go run around a block. He can
Speaker 1: do that stuff and then did enough you know in
Speaker 1: line in college to show you that he can handle
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. Most Iowa tight ends can. Most
Speaker 1: of those guys that can do that project is you
Speaker 1: know Day one early Day two picks. Then Derek Hall
Speaker 1: is a player I haven't put much time in two
Speaker 1: because he's an edge. And I cover this in the
Speaker 1: Friday Show when we talked about the mock that had
Speaker 1: Yayah Diyabi mocked in Miami at fifty one. Again, draft
Speaker 1: good players, sure, that's always the rule, but also be
Speaker 1: aware that you have Jalen Phillips, Bradley Chubb, Emmanuel Ogba,
Speaker 1: Malik Reid, and Andrew Van Ginkel. I think all five
Speaker 1: of those guys can start on like at least one
Speaker 1: third of the teams in the league. The top three
Speaker 1: guys could start on nine tenths of the teams in
Speaker 1: the league. So I just don't see where the playing
Speaker 1: time would be for a rookie at that spot. To me,
Speaker 1: Cameron Good is your development until edge guy for the year,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. I'm not going to discount anything, but
Speaker 1: just haven't watched a guy in a position I think
Speaker 1: Miami is not just set at probably the best in
Speaker 1: the NFL. At let's go ahead and take our last
Speaker 1: break right there and come back on the other side
Speaker 1: and talk about the Mike McDaniel appearance on the Mike
Speaker 1: Silver podcast. I know I'm late, but I want to
Speaker 1: talk about something on that and then also a great
Speaker 1: story about where Emmanuel Ogba is right now. That's next
Speaker 1: Draftime podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by AutoNation,
Speaker 1: So I know it was a week or two ago
Speaker 1: at this point, but I wanted to touch on the
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel interview with Mike Silver from the owners meetings,
Speaker 1: the league meetings, whatever they're called these days. How good
Speaker 1: was that? If you don't had a chance to go back,
Speaker 1: check it out. It's a really great sit down with
Speaker 1: someone who's friends with coach, which always makes for a
Speaker 1: relaxed conversation. Right But if you're like me, and if
Speaker 1: you're listening to this you are like me, then you're
Speaker 1: fascinated by any level of detail, and he provides so
Speaker 1: much in the show, both into landing the job with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, growing up with the great comedian Dan Soder,
Speaker 1: coach Fangio's influence, and working with him for a few
Speaker 1: weeks now or a few months now, working with Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Michael Floor, Matt Lafloor, just so good man.
Speaker 1: But the part I wanted to touch on was the
Speaker 1: longest part of the interview. It's like a forty minute
Speaker 1: podcast with the story I'm gonna touch on here goes
Speaker 1: for seventeen minutes, and I'm not I'm sure most of
Speaker 1: you have heard this by now, but I had to
Speaker 1: talk about it since it was so how do I
Speaker 1: say this? Like the podcast isn't about me, right, but
Speaker 1: it kind of is. It's my show. I like to
Speaker 1: think that the personality is part of the reason you listen,
Speaker 1: on top of the research and information you get. And
Speaker 1: those of you that have been on the journey since
Speaker 1: day one, remember the process of familiarizing myself with two
Speaker 1: A Tongavloa's game at Alabama. Now, like all of you,
Speaker 1: I remember the National Championship like like yesterday, but more
Speaker 1: there was a game in twenty eighteen. Yeah, twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: against LSU, the game where they won like twenty two
Speaker 1: zip or something like that, and two have had that
Speaker 1: forty five yard touchdown run where he outran Patrick Queen
Speaker 1: to the end zone. There was a third and five
Speaker 1: conversion in that game that I will never forget because
Speaker 1: it seems totally innocuous. And I've posted an eclipse on
Speaker 1: Twitter before and people that don't get it don't get it.
Speaker 1: But if you do, you get it that you can
Speaker 1: really divulge high level stuff from any single play if
Speaker 1: you look in the right places and if it's the
Speaker 1: right play that you're looking at. It was a speed
Speaker 1: out to the field against press coverage, outside leverage with
Speaker 1: inside help. That's a word, salad. I'm gonna explain it
Speaker 1: for you. So a speedout is a five yard out route,
Speaker 1: push up as fast as you can to the five
Speaker 1: yards and break your route off ninety degrees and kind
Speaker 1: of angle back to the quarterback. It's designed to convert
Speaker 1: third and short to third medium. And it was to
Speaker 1: the field side, which is the wide side of the
Speaker 1: football field. So every single snap for the most part,
Speaker 1: happens on either hash mark right. Sometimes it's in the middle,
Speaker 1: but if you're operating on the left hash mark. The
Speaker 1: field is the right side, and the boundary is the
Speaker 1: left short side boundary, wide side field right. The speed
Speaker 1: out to the field and you heard you heard Mike
Speaker 1: mcdonalley talk about this in the interview is one of
Speaker 1: the more difficult throws because those corners are squatting on that.
Speaker 1: It's a far distance for just a short amount of
Speaker 1: yards to gain and if they drive on it right,
Speaker 1: it has a chance to get picked six. There was
Speaker 1: a throw last year to Waddle right before the Sherefield
Speaker 1: touchdown where Adam Archiletta about blue a gasket in terms
Speaker 1: of like that is a perfect throw from two of
Speaker 1: that that throw could not be more perfect. It takes
Speaker 1: a lot of gust or to make that throw. You
Speaker 1: guys know what I'm talking about. The one that was
Speaker 1: highing away from Denzel Ward where he's like four inches
Speaker 1: away from pick six in ye but it's a first down,
Speaker 1: third and six instead high level quarterback ball placement. And
Speaker 1: on the third and five against LSU, that's speed out
Speaker 1: against coverage with the cornerback playing to the outside, which
Speaker 1: means the receiver has to get outside despite the fact
Speaker 1: that the cornerback is not letting him and has helped
Speaker 1: to the inside to help him make sure that receiver
Speaker 1: does not get outside. And you hear You'll hear McDaniel
Speaker 1: on the Silver podcast talk about two us out routes
Speaker 1: of the field like Spider Man me, man, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what I was talking about. This throw against LSU showed
Speaker 1: two taking a drop from under center. Literally perfect footwork
Speaker 1: which has always been to a deal, got his throwing
Speaker 1: mechanics aligned to that throw and rips this confident shot
Speaker 1: against tight coverage to move the sticks in a critical drive.
Speaker 1: And he did it in a way that expedited his
Speaker 1: drop because it had to get out faster than what
Speaker 1: the timing of the route called for. And he did it.
Speaker 1: He sped up the legs, sped out the drops, everything
Speaker 1: up in the play to make sure that ball got there.
Speaker 1: And it was right there where I realized this dude's special. Man.
Speaker 1: He's able to speed up his operation to account for
Speaker 1: a quick throw, which also in turn mitigates pressure. Right
Speaker 1: if I can get my feet under me, interrupting my
Speaker 1: drop minimizes the time that you have to get me
Speaker 1: down to the ground or put a hit on me.
Speaker 1: That and the ball placement. Pocket management and ball placement,
Speaker 1: to me are the two most important categories in addition
Speaker 1: to processing speed for a quarterback. And we heard Nick
Speaker 1: Saban on ESPN Pluss Detail Show back when two was
Speaker 1: coming out in twenty twenty breakdown how Tua got to
Speaker 1: read that nobody else in that Alabama offense had ever
Speaker 1: done before him. And we hear Dan Orlovsky and Kurt
Speaker 1: Warner and jt. O. Solivan and Josh McCown, all these
Speaker 1: great content creators and quarterback analysts who have done it
Speaker 1: before at a high level talk about those superpowers of
Speaker 1: vision and placement, anticipation, processing. It's all the most important
Speaker 1: parts about quarterback play. So to hear the story of
Speaker 1: McDaniel doing his two A deep dive as the new
Speaker 1: head coach and trying to figure out what do I
Speaker 1: have here exactly and going through that process. Man, that's
Speaker 1: me when I fall in love with the prospect. I'm
Speaker 1: taking clips off my phone. I'm showing everybody I know
Speaker 1: who loves this team, Like look at this rep can
Speaker 1: you believe this? Look at this throw? Look at look
Speaker 1: at the way got away from pressure. Look at how
Speaker 1: he threw this ball away on second down and created
Speaker 1: a third down chance and then ripped it and hit
Speaker 1: it like that. Passion is really the origin story of
Speaker 1: the podcast and hearing coach go through those paces of
Speaker 1: texting Anne Nolan, of texting Chris Career, staying up all
Speaker 1: night waiting for the staff to get in the morning
Speaker 1: because he couldn't go to bed, gathering them all and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: let's check us out. We're gonna watch this seven hundred
Speaker 1: play clip that I put together because we have something
Speaker 1: special and here's how we can maximize it. Who among
Speaker 1: you out there was on the Twitter Spaces show last
Speaker 1: March when we had Jeff Darlington on the podcast or
Speaker 1: the space, I'm sorry. We had just traded for Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill and signed to Ron Armstead and Darlington said, those
Speaker 1: were great moves, but just you watch. The biggest impact
Speaker 1: this offseason for the Dolphins will be the addition of
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel and that empowering your uber gifted quarterback, surrounding
Speaker 1: him with the pieces that maximize his strength. Well, that's
Speaker 1: how you wind up with the number six offense in
Speaker 1: the NFL. If you haven't heard it, it's produced by
Speaker 1: a company called The Volume. It's Mike Silver Show Open Mic.
Speaker 1: You can find it on YouTube. He talks about Tyreek
Speaker 1: last summer really going to bat for his new quarterback,
Speaker 1: and the origin story of that phase was coach showing
Speaker 1: Tyreek the tape and Tyrek being like, Okay, yeah, this
Speaker 1: dude can play a little bit. I just think it's
Speaker 1: really cool to get this perspective. When back then on
Speaker 1: social we saw so many comments about this hype train
Speaker 1: getting out of hand. Why are the Dolphins doing this
Speaker 1: about Tuah? Why is Tyreek doing this with Tuah? The
Speaker 1: truth was is because it was true, is it? I
Speaker 1: mean you need more than that. It was based in
Speaker 1: hours and days and weeks of research and deep diving
Speaker 1: from experts in the field, not Joe YouTube on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and as someone who has staked reputation on similar claims,
Speaker 1: a lot less at stake. I don't no one cares
Speaker 1: if I'm right or wrong to keep my job, But
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of gusto to go against the
Speaker 1: grain like that and then to get paid off. That
Speaker 1: will send anybody that has imposter syndrome. It's going right
Speaker 1: to the sidelines like I'm the real deal. It's how
Speaker 1: you feel when you get that hit and it feels
Speaker 1: like McDaniel got that hit at the quarterback position. Great story.
Speaker 1: Go check out the podcast. You do not want to
Speaker 1: miss that. If you're a Dolphins fan. Let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and close with this. The NFL's NFL Africa Program is
Speaker 1: expanding into Kenya as the league continues to invest in
Speaker 1: growing the game at all levels across the continent. One
Speaker 1: of our own is heading that way for a showcase
Speaker 1: for talent identification. Emmanuel Ogbas roots traced back to Legos,
Speaker 1: Nigeria before he moved to Houston with his family at
Speaker 1: the age of nine, and in fact, I wrote a
Speaker 1: feature on Emmanuel back in twenty twenty entitled Emmanuel Ogbas
Speaker 1: Following his Father's Humble Footsteps. Go check that out if
Speaker 1: you have not read that before. With more than one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five players of African descent born in
Speaker 1: Africa or first generation born in the US from fifteen
Speaker 1: countries across the continent currently playing in the NFL, a
Speaker 1: talent identification camp for promising youth athletes will take place
Speaker 1: this month in Kenya. Twenty nine prospects age sixteen to
Speaker 1: twenty one from African nations including Cameroon, Kenya, Morocco, Nigeria,
Speaker 1: and Senegal will take part in a three day NFL
Speaker 1: Combine style camp to showcase their skills. Participants will be
Speaker 1: competing for invites to the NFL International Combine, NFL International
Speaker 1: Player Pathway Program, or the opportunity to join the NFL
Speaker 1: Academy in the UK as part of league efforts to
Speaker 1: advance pathways to play in the NFL for international athletes.
Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for content and photos from
Speaker 1: Emmanual in the coming days and weeks, or from us
Speaker 1: as well. We'll have some stuff recapping the trip on
Speaker 1: our website. Also kind of a cool feather in the
Speaker 1: cap for how the program is growing and performing in
Speaker 1: a satisfactory way. The NFL's ongoing football development efforts in
Speaker 1: Ghana saw a youth NFL flag team represent the nation
Speaker 1: in the NFL International Flag Football Championships at the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three Pro Bowl Games. That team, despite only having
Speaker 1: learned the game a few months earlier, made the semi
Speaker 1: finals of the ten team competition. So there's some talent
Speaker 1: out there, man, and they're gonna try to find it.
Speaker 1: An Emmanual is going to be part of that as well,
Speaker 1: so that's my time tomorrow, the great Joe Marino breaking
Speaker 1: down the offensive line class for us in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three draft. It's going to be almost exclusively draft
Speaker 1: experts from here forward up until Draft Day, but until
Speaker 1: that time, that's gonna be my time. You all, please
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