1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 2: Tally edutes is it Dad? Does it right? A? 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: Dudes? Okay, one half of the Asherton's. We had your 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: sister twins. Excuse me, we had your sister Opie on 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: a couple months ago to talk about your new book, 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 3: The Im System, and now we get to meet you, 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 3: which I'm. 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: So excited about because you guys. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 3: Have another book coming out with a twenty twenty five 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: forecast of what we're going to be seeing in this 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: next year. So Hi, thank you so much for being 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: I'm so. 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 4: Glad to be here. I love that you get to 15 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: be with each twin. You know why not right? 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 3: I mean exactly. It's really weird because I feel like 17 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: I'm talking to the same person because you guys look 18 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: so much alike and it sound alike. 19 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: Our mom can't even tell our voices apart on the phone. 20 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: Completely really do, we really do. But it's so fun 21 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: for us and I love you guys. I've told Ophie 22 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 3: I've been a fan of your work for ever and 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: I always used to get the magazines and you know, 24 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: flip to y'all's page of L magazine first, because I 25 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: was so like into horoscopes from such a young age 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: before people even really talked about it. But astrology is 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: so much more common now. Have you seen such a 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: shift in that for y'all's work. 29 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: Oh my god, such a shift. And social media really 30 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 4: helped that, and also politics help that. I think when 31 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: people were like the world doesn't really make sense right now, 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: they started opening up to mystical answers. And we also 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: had Neptune and Pisces and it's home sign of Pisces 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: from twenty eleven until actually next year, so that's something 35 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: a big deal trend next year. But Neptune is the 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: spirituality mysticism planet, and it takes about one hundred and 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 4: sixty five years to go through the whole zodiac, so 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: every one hundred and sixty five years it'll be in 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: its home sign, and it really you can tell, Like 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 4: since twosand and eleven and we had the Mayan calendar 41 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 4: and yoga grew in popularity and terror and everyone became 42 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: a witch or not everyone, right, people weren't afraid to 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: identify as one. We all know our big three. I think, 44 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: I mean, what a time to be alive. 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: Right, truly? 46 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: Yes, it is so interesting. I was watching have you 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 3: seen Breath of Fire on HBMX yet? 48 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: Yes, I was. 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: Watching a new episode last night, so good if you 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: guys haven't gotten into that yet, but I do. 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: I'd hear a lot of. 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: What happened in that series in what you're saying, because 53 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: we saw the rise of the Guru a little bit 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: and then kind of now we're seeing the fall of it. 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: So then you really have to grasp to what do 56 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 3: you believe in? What is your spiritual relationship? 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: That is so true. I mean pisces is as much 58 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: a neptune or as much about enchantment as they are 59 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: about illusion and passivity. Making sacrifices and giving your power 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 4: away are the shadow side of it. I know what 61 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: was her name, gru Juggat. It was so I mean 62 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 4: I've done Kundalini yoga before and absolutely loved it, and 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: I'm like god, it was just so set like from 64 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: yoga before, Like can I pick a modality that isn't 65 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: next time? Right? 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: Exactly? 67 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: It makes me sad to see it go to a 68 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 3: negative side though, because I do think it messes with people. 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: But I think what we're entering into is really finding 70 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: your own individuality and your own individual belief And we 71 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: were mentioning before the podcast how interesting it is that 72 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: we're recording this on the day that Pluto is moving 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: into Aquarius, and my listeners know about this. We've been 74 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: talking about it, but I love to hear different astrologers 75 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: take So will you give us a little breakdown of 76 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: what you think this transit is bringing? 77 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 4: Oh my god, so much. Well, Pluto is the phoenix planet. 78 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: It'll burn down the town, but cause it to rebuild 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 4: in a better way. It'll destroy and regenerate at the 80 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: same time. That doesn't mean everything's going to fall apart. 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 4: I don't mean, but some things do have to go 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: through an alchemical process in order to turn from lead 83 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 4: to gold. So it is the shadow worker planet. And 84 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 4: because it's so far away from the Sun, it has 85 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 4: long a long orbit through each zodiac sign and about 86 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 4: twelve to twenty even sometimes thirty years. It's been in 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 4: Capricorn since two thousand and eight, and I've been tracking 88 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: the Pluto cycles for a while in my own life 89 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: and seeing how it tears down whatever. You know. The 90 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 4: sign that it moves into rules and then rebuilds it. 91 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 4: So this move into Aquarius is a really big deal. 92 00:04:54,440 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: Aquarius rules democracy, Aquarius rules technology in evation, science, industry, community, 93 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: how we work together. Aquarus is this weird sign that's 94 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: like very individualistic and also very communal at once. And 95 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 4: so little has darted in and out of Aquarius since 96 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. Last year it was in Aquarius for 97 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 4: it took its first little preview lap in from March 98 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: twenty third to June tenth, right over the Hollywood writers strike, 99 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 4: which was on chat GPT started making waves. I was 100 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: like a aire to make everyone scared. Now we've had 101 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: a UFO, a UAP conference. You know, people are saying, yes, 102 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 4: there are unidentified Was it anomalous phenomena? Can we just 103 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: call them UFOs? 104 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: Right? 105 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 4: I guess a floating I don't know, And then yeah, 106 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 4: it's just what we're seeing right now. Like decentralization is 107 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 4: a word that is very Aquarian. Capricorn, which Pluto has 108 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: been in since two thousand and eight, and Pluto has 109 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: really been shifting the things that Capricorn rules, government, banks, 110 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: the economy. Like in the beginning of two thousand and eight, 111 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: we had the all the banks needed bailing out there 112 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: was a Ponzi scheme. It also rules the patriarchy. So 113 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: we've had the me Too movement in the middle of 114 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: it all. You know, women's rights getting really suppressed by 115 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: Pluto and Capricorn, and also just banks having kind of 116 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 4: a crazy time, like some banks falling apart. But then 117 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 4: you know, we had these these low interest rates that 118 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: rebooted the mortgage, you know, business during the pandemic, and 119 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 4: now interest rates are high. It's like, we have cryptocurrency, 120 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: which I think is very Pluto and Aquarius. So that 121 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: is cryptocurrency has decentralized money. It's not in the central bank, 122 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 4: the Federal Reserve, so the people set the value of it, 123 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: and that some people love, but other people say, that's 124 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: so bad for our economy. So even the tech Silicon 125 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 4: Valley bros. And their influence in the election and in politics. 126 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 4: Now Elon Musk being Trump's right hand man is so 127 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: Pluto and Aquarius. It's like, is he going to be 128 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 4: the Darth Vader of our time? Right? 129 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: I mean, did anyone even see this coming? Was the 130 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: whole thing with that to me, it's just very But 131 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: like you said, the innovation piece, I mean, who else 132 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 3: would it be besides Elon Musk if you really think 133 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: about it, he has the definition of that with the 134 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: way that he the companies he's built all of that stuff. 135 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: I mean they're very innovative, so it actually makes so 136 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: much sense. 137 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and even the way he lives his life, like 138 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 4: he has a compound with his multiple you know, baby 139 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: Mama mamas, which is very Aquarian, and that is something 140 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 4: you know, like so the age of Aquarius if it 141 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: hadn't you know, a lot of astrologers argue about when 142 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: it began, but it's definitely on now. 143 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, and I think people can feel it. 144 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: I mean I definitely feel the shift myself. And like 145 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: you were mentioning, even like chat, GPT, all the AI stuff. 146 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we cannot deny that technology, all of that 147 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: stuff is growing and changing and evolving, and there's so 148 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,239 Speaker 3: much innovation happening right now. 149 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: So much like humanity is reaching this like peak. Yeah, 150 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's like we thought we couldn't, you know, 151 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: get any more advanced. But some people may actually kind 152 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: of reject technology during this time and go more analog too. 153 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: The last time Pluto was in Aquarius was from seventeen 154 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 4: seventy eight to seventeen ninety eight, and what was happening 155 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: then was the end of the American Revolution. It was 156 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: still going on, and then we got the Constitution. During 157 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 4: Pluto and Aquarius, the amendments the Central Bank actually started. 158 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: So there was all this sort of like democracy founding 159 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 4: father energy, which was Pluto and Capricorn. But then in 160 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: Aquarius it started to get to shift and grow in 161 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: new ways. There was a French Revolution, the Haitian Revolution, 162 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: there were all these revolutions that occurred, and so yeah, 163 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: Uranus was discovered by telescope, the ruler of Aquarius. It 164 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: was just a time where things got kind of, you know, 165 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: like revolutionary. So more to come for us. 166 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: Come is a good way to put I have not 167 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: been able. It's you know, I think we all want 168 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: to know. I want it to be mapped out. And 169 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 3: I always say astrology is like a map, you know, 170 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: and especially if your personal astrology, if you have your 171 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: personal chart, it is like a map for your life 172 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 3: and kind of the ways in which you you know 173 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: work best or you want to go and all of 174 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 3: those things. But I don't think we have it clearly 175 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: mapped out. This is just a little bit of guidance, 176 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: and I think all of us are kind of like 177 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: what is to come? 178 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: Because we do ships. 179 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: We actually do have it mapped out. And let me 180 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: just show this little info prsial year of in our 181 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five horoscope book. This is the fourteenth one 182 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 4: we've done, and it's wow sick. It has actually your 183 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: plan for all the transits for your sign or you 184 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: can read for your rising sign, and it has every 185 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: single month's important transit's mapped out that everyone can read, 186 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 4: as well as a month by month breakdown and a 187 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: trend report. So we actually have mad there is a map. Yeah, 188 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: we did that last year and we predicted the benefit breakup, 189 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: we predicted the beeber baby, the assassination attempt. It's all awol. 190 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: Once you start to really dig into astrology. 191 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: Like you get a sense you can start to. 192 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 4: Just intuit what might happen, but be obsessed about it 193 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 4: all day every day. 194 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, right, of course, Well, since you've brought up 195 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: the book, let's touch on a little bit of that 196 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 3: because you guys sent me a trend report, which you guys, 197 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: I'll put a link in the description to all my 198 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 3: listeners if you want to go see this trim Report. 199 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: It Actually it's so eerie to me. When I was 200 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: reading it, I was thinking, this all makes so much sense, 201 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: and you can kind of look back at the last 202 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: couple of years and see this stuff building. I mean, 203 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: it's there, It's all there. So I want to talk 204 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: a little bit about some of the topics that I 205 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: found in this trim Report, because I know it's kind 206 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: of the overview of what we'll find in this book. 207 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: And again, you guys can go find this on the 208 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: Astro Twins Instagram and I'll put link to that in 209 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: the description of this podcast. But I want to start. 210 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 3: We just mentioned a couple of things that I think 211 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: are really pertinent. But the government, I mean that is 212 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: obviously at the top of everyone's mind. We had a 213 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: new president elected two weeks ago, and we're starting to 214 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 3: see him appoint all these people, and I think everyone's like, well, 215 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: how is this going to go? 216 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: Like? 217 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: What is going to happen? So we keep hearing that 218 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 3: Pluto and Aquarius is the revolution era. What do you 219 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: think about this? What are you feeling about government? 220 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 2: Our shifts there? Just give us, give us the name. 221 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: Well, we're calling twenty twenty five the year of the 222 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: Divine pendulum, because every single outer planet is going to 223 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 4: be in a new sign next year, which is so 224 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 4: rare that like hardly ever happens, but three of them 225 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 4: are actually swinging forward into a new sign one they 226 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 4: haven't been in either decades or over a century, like 227 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 4: a part of the year, and then swinging back. So 228 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: Saturn is going into Aries for the first time since 229 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety six to ninety eight. Neptune we were talking 230 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: about before, is also going into Aries for the first 231 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 4: time since eighteen sixty two to seventy five, and Uranus 232 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: is going into Gemini for the first time since nineteen 233 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 4: forty to nineteen forty nine. And why that's significant is because, well, 234 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: not necessarily Saturn, but when Uranus was going into Gemini 235 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 4: from Taurus to Gemini as it does next year, it 236 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 4: was the beginning of World War Two. When Ludo was 237 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 4: moving from Capricorn to Aquarius as it is today, that 238 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: was like the end of the American Revolution. And then 239 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: when Neptune was in Pisces and Aries was the start 240 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: of the five year Civil War. That doesn't mean we're 241 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 4: in a war, although there is sort of a civil 242 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 4: war going on on its own on social media, so 243 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 4: we are having this the same energy of like just 244 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: this internal angst and division. I think the government is 245 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 4: going to feel kind of crazy next year. It's going 246 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: to feel like people like Elon Musk who have Starlink 247 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 4: and he owns a social media platform, like they are 248 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: going people are going to be able to go outside 249 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 4: of the government to exert power and control now. And 250 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: so you know, Trump is meeting with all these cryptocurrency heads, 251 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 4: you know. So I do think people are going to 252 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: feel a mix of relief that the government isn't all 253 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:46,479 Speaker 4: up in everything and regulating and also like complete chaos. 254 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: And one thing that is happening in the beginning of 255 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 4: next year is that Mars will be retrograde. Mars turns retrograde. 256 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: Mars is the plan of Anchor and you know, fighting 257 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 4: and combat. It turns retrograde on December sixth in Leo, 258 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: and then it goes back into Cancer the sign of 259 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 4: Women from January sixth to February twenty third, and then 260 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 4: it goes direct in Cancer till April eighteenth. So the 261 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: first quarter, basically the first four months of the year, Mars, 262 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 4: the planet of anger, will be in the sign of women. 263 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: It sounds like an intense way to start the year. 264 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I do think that any the attempts made 265 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: to keep women down are going to spur a wave 266 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 4: of extreme outrage that's going to come on a different 267 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: way this time. But we may not see things shift 268 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: until Jupiter, and you'll be happy to hear this. Well, 269 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: you're a cancer, so this is but Jupiter, the planet 270 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: of luck expansion, goes into cancer on June ninth for 271 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: a year, So that is going to power up women. 272 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: That's going to power so hopefully they'll get the message 273 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: to stop messing with women in soon. Like Matt Gates 274 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: being nominated for Attorney General doesn't exactly say much to that, 275 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: but we'll see if he makes it through. I don't know. 276 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: I think we could see people like Elizabeth Warren, who 277 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 4: is a cancer, really rising up and spearheading some things. 278 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: And we're also probably gonna see the outgoing administration make 279 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: some surprising moves. An Aquarius, I sure do hope. So. 280 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting about the retrograde piece because we 281 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: talk about this a lot on the podcast too, But 282 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: I always am saying I used to be so scared 283 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: of retrogrades and now I look at him a little differently, 284 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 3: where I try to think about it as, oh, there 285 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: was something we missed, so we need to go back 286 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: and do a little dig, a little deeper. So it 287 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: makes complete sense, especially when you bring up the women's stuff, 288 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: because it feels as if it's unresolved to me, like, 289 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 3: I don't really feel like we have answers, I don't 290 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 3: really feel like we have clarity. I don't even know 291 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 3: if we fully understand what's happening right now. So that 292 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: makes total sense that we would need to go back 293 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: and take another look at it. 294 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: And it could also be women fighting with other women 295 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 4: because there is this growing mind between like the traad 296 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: wives and the childless cat lady camps, you know. So 297 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 4: it's going to be an interesting year to be a woman. 298 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: And I think government is going to really try to 299 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 4: bring in these experimental new things, some of which might 300 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 4: actually wind up being and others could be a disaster. 301 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: But the constitution could get itself a little shake up 302 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: because it's having a Pluto return, you know so well. 303 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: And when we hear revolution and a lot, I think 304 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: a lot of what I've heard about Aquarius is it's 305 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 3: power back to the people and more of like a 306 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 3: humanitarian vibe. 307 00:17:59,040 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: Can you speak to that? 308 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be the best of all worlds too, 309 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 4: right if people, But it's just the questions can the 310 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: which people who are the people now? Right? Like? Because 311 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: when it was last there, you know, it was everyone else, 312 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 4: but you know a certain group were three fifths or 313 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 4: not really counted as a person. Now we have a 314 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 4: different era, So let's hope that humanity can extend itself 315 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: and it's not. You know, there's stuff happening in other 316 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 4: parts of the world. So where the United States may 317 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 4: trip up and go to conservative to backwards, it could 318 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: open up a new superpower over the next nineteen years, 319 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 4: like a place where women flock to or people who 320 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 4: don't feel you know, there could be some whole we 321 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 4: could have some divisions, you know. 322 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. What I always think is interesting too is I've 323 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: seen some aschologers reporting on the United States astrology and 324 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: I'll never think about that, like the country was born 325 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: at a certain time and said the country has its 326 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: own birth chart, which is like kind of hilarious to 327 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: me to think about. 328 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: But isn't there. 329 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: Something happening with Pluto in general, with the United States? 330 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: Right now, yeah, the United States was born or founded 331 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 4: on July fourth, seventeen seventy six Independence Day, and when 332 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: it was Pluto. There's a few things that are happening. 333 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 4: So Pluto was in Capricorn at a later degree and 334 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 4: Ludo circled back to that degree of Capricorn for the 335 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 4: first time since then, back in February of twenty twenty two, 336 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 4: right around the time that the Russia Ukraine war broke down. 337 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 4: A return is basically we have talked about Saturn returns. 338 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 4: You get a lunar return every month when a planet 339 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 4: comes back through its full orbit and return to the 340 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 4: place it was at this founding date or at your 341 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 4: birth date. So actually, right during the election, the United 342 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 4: States was having a Chiron return. So Kirn the Wounded 343 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: Healer co wow exact chiron return on election day. So 344 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 4: it was like, are we going to deal with this 345 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 4: wound we have around power and TOC receipt or not. 346 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 4: Looks like that may not be the case. 347 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: So interesting, I did not realize that about Chiron. Well, 348 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: we talked a little bit about innovation, so let's dive 349 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: a little deeper in that. I mean, obviously Aquarius is 350 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: the innovator, as we said, we've mentioned a couple of 351 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: people specifically, like the Elon Musk, we've also really seen 352 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been using chat gpt like it's going 353 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 3: out of style. In my head, I'm like, there has 354 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 3: to you mentioned a pendulum, and I'm like, there has 355 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 3: to be a way that this goes negative. So is 356 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 3: that like, are y'all seeing any sort of thing in 357 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: the forecast. I mean, it's twenty twenty five. Are we 358 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: just going to have the benefits of innovation or is 359 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 3: there a time where it might be a little bit dicey. 360 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: I think middle of the year when Uranis goes into 361 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 4: Gemini the Sign of the Twins, it's going to be 362 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: hard to know what a digital du biz and who's real. 363 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: AI is not going away. In fact, Sam Altman, the 364 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: Taurusts who created chat gpt, is talking about like the 365 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 4: next level of AI, if that's what it's called. But 366 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 4: it's like was supposed to be ready by twenty twenty six, 367 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: but might already be ready but in twenty twenty five. 368 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 4: So it's just like, I mean, I love chatchept and 369 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 4: it's in my own way, it's like, God, this is 370 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 4: saving me so much time. 371 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: It saves so much time and brain power and all 372 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: of it. 373 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: You know, it's just like it can't write a good horoscope, 374 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 4: but it can. Like if I'm like, I'm stumped, what should. 375 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Write about it? 376 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 4: Like the prompts and get me started. 377 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 3: So it's like having a really good assistant is sort 378 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: of how I feel. But again it's sort of like, Okay, 379 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: what are the consequences going to be of that? Like 380 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: are a lot of people going to be out of 381 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: work because of that? 382 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: Or I mean I necessarily think so okay, But I 383 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 4: do think that it's going to be integrated into the 384 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 4: systems that we use basically every area of life, and 385 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 4: it's also going to be you know, like people are 386 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 4: gonna it might actually be a great what they call 387 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 4: in business lead magnet. You know, like you use AI, 388 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: you get so far and then you're like, I at 389 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 4: least got myself immersed in this process, but now I 390 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: need a human this is too much. I Like, it 391 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 4: gets people started and then they call in an expert 392 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: and pay for the upgrade. So yeah, that's what I 393 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: would say. You know, like people might want to use 394 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: AI like create a chat bot or it's like when 395 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 4: you're trying to book a ticket on an airline with 396 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: the yeah, and you're like representative. 397 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: Speak to a representative. I know. 398 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: That's when I ask, my angriest voice is trying to 399 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: get things to get me to the representative. I do 400 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: think that's interesting. I was on set yesterday for a 401 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: music video shoot and the artist was talking about all 402 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: of the just things that you can do with chat 403 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: GPT now, I mean, you can write full songs. You 404 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: can actually take an artist's voice and insert it for 405 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 3: the demo and the artist never even has to sing it. 406 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: And we were just talking about how crazy that is 407 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 3: and like a little scary obviously, but we could see 408 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: the benefits as well. But he made a good point, 409 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 3: which was that at the end of the day, though, 410 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: what humans connect to with music, and I think this 411 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: goes for a lot of different avenues is the heart 412 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: and like that just what you just said, At some point, 413 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 3: they're still going to want the human connection of music, 414 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 3: of artistry, of all industries, and so as much as 415 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 3: we might have advances in technology, I think we still 416 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: are going to find that piece of just we still 417 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: want the human connection. We might even find it deeper, 418 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 3: like you just said, Yeah. 419 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: And why we're calling it the eater of the divine 420 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 4: pendulum instead of just the pendulum is exactly that there 421 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: are a few soulful things happening. The North node. I 422 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: don't know if you talk about that at all. Yeah, 423 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 4: the lunar north node. This is based somewhere the eclipses 424 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 4: are happening, the eclipses and the nodes. I'm moving into 425 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: Pisce's north node Virgo south note. So Virgo is very 426 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 4: much about the purest basis, most real and natural of everything, 427 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: and Pisces is this very spiritual, dreamy energy. I think 428 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: just with all the uncertainty going on, we have to 429 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: lean into that. We will want that soul connection. There's 430 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: nothing you know, your chat GPT is not going to 431 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: keep you warm at night. 432 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: I can't cut your chat GPT yet. 433 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: I mean, we'll see, all right, we'll be like some 434 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 4: creature stepping innovation is about to take off like nobody's business. 435 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 4: Though with Pluto and Aquarius it's going to be the 436 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 4: next ten years. Like space travel, we're going to you know, 437 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 4: just I'll use Pluto and Sagittarius as a good example 438 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 4: because Sagittarius rule is global connections and Publishing and Fludo 439 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 4: went into Sage in nineteen ninety five, and that was 440 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: a good time for magazines. I was like, I was 441 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 4: a teen in the eighties, so I would get like 442 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: Sassy and Miss and Glamour, Like you'd have to wait 443 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: all month for it to come and you know, get 444 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 4: your kissing tips that you have times already, you know, yes, 445 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: But ninety five comes along and all of a sudden, 446 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: the Internet and everyone was like, what is this. I 447 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: was playing with it right away, but halfway through in 448 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 4: two thousand, everyone was having their launch parties and you know, 449 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: and building these amazing sites and having these IPOs and 450 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 4: making millions of dollars and then everything crashed because you 451 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 4: didn't have the technology to back it up. But by 452 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 4: the end two thousand and eight, when Puto moved into Capricorn, 453 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: we had that iPhone three that changed everything for us. 454 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 4: We're all of a sudden, we're talking to everybody across 455 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 4: the world and on Skype. At the beginning in nineteen 456 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 4: ninety five, we used to have to call relatives overseas. 457 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 4: It would be like literally thirty dollars a minute. Oh yeah, 458 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 4: remember that, or you. 459 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: Can forget about that. 460 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: But yes, I remember it. 461 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 4: So Pluto came in and just like transformed how we 462 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: netted across the globe. How we you know, self publishing. 463 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 4: You didn't need to like wait for someone to give 464 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: you a record deal or a book work out there. 465 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 4: So I feel like Pluto's going to do that With Aquarus. 466 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 4: I think people are going to move into a lot 467 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: more of a communal lifestyle and approach. And that's going 468 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 4: to be with the way we've taxed our resources and 469 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: no one can afford life anymore. It's like Aquarus is 470 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 4: about communal life and communal sharing, so that can only 471 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 4: be good for climate and our wallets, I think, and 472 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 4: maybe our spirits too, Like yeah, all more right. 473 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: Like right, when you say communal living, I picture everyone 474 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 3: kind of bringing their own unique skill set to a 475 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: little unit. 476 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: Of whatever it is, like a little. 477 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: Base of people, and then coming together to make one 478 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: whole project. 479 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're successful. 480 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: A micro society. They happen, you know, Like yeah, the 481 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 4: key Bootzes were kind of built around that notion and 482 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 4: nineteen nineteen when they began. But like I think it's 483 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: even I know with some friends who tried it during 484 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: the pandemic and it just didn't work. I think people 485 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 4: still want to have a little bit of control and ownership, 486 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 4: like let's buy this land together. Here's your parcel for 487 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 4: your tiny house, here's yours. Now we have this communal kitchen. 488 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: I mean it could go right, or let's buy a 489 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: building together, or you know, pludo still has to have control, 490 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 4: so like having very clear cut rules, not just being 491 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: like hippy be fine, you know. 492 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Well, let's talk a little bit about dating 493 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 3: and relationships, because you've brought up the women's movement, and 494 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 3: I think that'll be interesting to see how that plays 495 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: out at the beginning of twenty twenty five. But I'm 496 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: seeing a lot on social media about this four B 497 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: movement that's happening in Korea, and a lot of people 498 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: are saying, well, if women's rights get taken away and 499 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 3: we don't have any autonomy of our own bodies, then 500 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 3: women are going to boycott heterosexual relationships. So what do 501 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 3: you guys think about that, and what do you see 502 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five happening to just our dating and 503 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 3: our relationships in general. 504 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: Well, with the south noted virgo, the South note kind 505 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 4: of being this karmic energy, I think that could really 506 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: happen that really see for some I don't think it'll 507 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 4: be everyone at all, but I think there will be 508 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 4: some gen Z and maybe millennial women who are like 509 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 4: what you know, like yeah, who have a lot of 510 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: Aquarius in their chart anyways and are kind of like, well, 511 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 4: I'm going to try this experimental thing. I don't think 512 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 4: it'll catch on the same way here, but I do 513 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: think that we wrote something in our trend report, a 514 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: section called sex as a Weapon where we actually mentioned 515 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 4: the four B movement, and yeah, it means no sex, 516 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: no marriage, no dating, And so I think dating is 517 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 4: going to be more demi sexual and sapio sexual, meaning 518 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 4: an intellectual connection has to be formed, and the demisexuals 519 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: are the ones who are like, I have to really 520 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: like you and form and emotional attachment before I can 521 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 4: open up and have sex. And also I think what 522 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 4: Pluto and Aquarius might do differently. So the four B 523 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: movement was during Pluto and Capricorn. But I don't think 524 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 4: we're going to divide as much along gender lines because 525 00:29:55,760 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 4: a lot of men are really pro women's rights totally yeah, 526 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 4: and then there's a lot of women who are right 527 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: up who are like not on the sister side. Right, 528 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: it's kind of ideologies now more. 529 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: So you mean ideologies in that it kind of it 530 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: might not be gender related as much as which side 531 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: do you stand right? 532 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: What do you believe right? 533 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: Do you think that the LGBTQ community should have rights 534 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 4: and be able to you know or or not? Like 535 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if you're queer or not queer, but 536 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: do you you know, like aligning around principles. Aquarius is 537 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: a very principled signs so, but it's also the sign 538 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 4: it's a little more of an androgynous fluid and uron 539 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 4: is going into geminis also very so. I think even 540 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: though there's like attempts to suppress trans rites, I think 541 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: it's not so much about being trans, but just read continue. 542 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: You need to redefine gender and gender rules, so it's 543 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 4: not going to stop no matter how hard people try. 544 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: You know. 545 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can't change astrology, so no matter what 546 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 3: your beliefs. Yes, whenever we talk about Aquarius, I also 547 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: think about people saying it's the most detached sign. Like 548 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: a lot of Aquarius friends that I have don't necessarily 549 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: care about relationship the same way that my like answered Taurus. 550 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,719 Speaker 3: You know, I need or I love being in a relationship. 551 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: It's very homey for me. But my Aquarius friends are 552 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 3: just they're totally fine being on their own and they're 553 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: very They're much more detached. So do you think that 554 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: relationships as a whole may have a new kind of 555 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: flexibility to them or we might not see them being 556 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: as much as like people live in the same house 557 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: even if they're married or things like that. 558 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 4: Totally. That is also something we put in our trend 559 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: report because you're going to see, you know, families since 560 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 4: relationships have broken up and there's kids, Like I chin 561 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 4: a lot of musk once again, maybe innovating something there, 562 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 4: like people choosing to stay together for their families but 563 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: not necessarily be together. And I also think just non 564 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 4: nuclear families. We do see though, with Jupiter and cancer, 565 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 4: that there could be another mini baby boom coming, I think. 566 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 4: And it's not just because I mean, obviously this whole 567 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 4: abortion suppression thing is also based in depopulation. You know, 568 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 4: people are afraid of population decline, which is really honestly happening. 569 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: But you know, it's so weird because I thought we 570 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 4: were over populated now to make more babies, but I 571 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: think they're actually in China going around and knocking door 572 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 4: to door. There's a New York Times article about it, 573 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: like trying to encourage young women to get pregnant or 574 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 4: are you pregnant yet. 575 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: Which is the opposite of how they've been. 576 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: Opposite, And right now it's like swinging the pendulum swinging 577 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 4: in the directions. So you know that is probably going 578 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 4: to start happening here too, as well as Jupiter being 579 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 4: in cancer, the son of the mother kind of creating 580 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: another wave of babies. As much as it's the four 581 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: B movement, there will also be the fifth Bee, which 582 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 4: is the or sixth baby boom. Yeah. 583 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it is interesting because you've said a couple 584 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: times like there might be completely contradicting things, and so 585 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: do you see us having both happening at the same 586 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: time all, my dude, I really do. 587 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 588 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: So that again goes to like the two it's very 589 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: divisive in a lot of ways because it's two very 590 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 3: extreme mindsets and thought processes and ways to live life. 591 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 4: The last time, you know, Uranus was in Gemini in 592 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 4: the forties. It was kind of this war time, but 593 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: people wanted to keep their families alive and going Neptune 594 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: and saturn and aries will also make people more like 595 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: I just want to focus on me as an individual. 596 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 4: We're just not into relationships too, So we're going to 597 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 4: see some very clear divides. 598 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 3: Yeah of people, Well, you brought up RFK. So I 599 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 3: want to talk a little bit about food and wealth 600 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: because this has been I mean, my listeners are probably like, Okay, 601 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: I'm not already about this, but I've been talking about 602 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 3: it for a really long time because I find it's 603 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 3: so disturbing how much we're being poisoned in our food 604 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: and all of that. And so I want to know 605 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 3: is the innovation coming, Are we going to get help, 606 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: are we going to grow? What are the wars going 607 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: to be about that? Are we going to be, you know, 608 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 3: guarding our own food? What is it going to look like? 609 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: There will be innovation with food. I think again that 610 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 4: is also going to be very divided because they are 611 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 4: going to be countries where they're going to be, you know, 612 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 4: doing lab grown food because they have to to feed 613 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 4: their population. And science is going to come in also. 614 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 4: I think we're gonna need science to help keep the soil, 615 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 4: you know, like from like just completely collapsing and being 616 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 4: able to grow I think it's it's both too. Juport 617 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 4: in cancer also dovetailed with McDonald's the first McDonald's and 618 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 4: Burger King, but fast food could get a makeover. We're 619 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 4: predicting where you'll actually be able to go to, like, oh, 620 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to go get this, you know, a sai 621 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 4: bowl that I'm going to make with this you know, 622 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 4: frozen yogurt machine, and get B twelve shot. Okay, injectibles, 623 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 4: like get your botox and your other vitamin. 624 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 3: B freeze your face while you get some vitamins. 625 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 4: Right. I just I hear you, because when you go 626 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 4: to Europe the food is so much. It's a tricky 627 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 4: thing because it really is like here's r F saying 628 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 4: we're gonna stop poisoning the food. But then it's like 629 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 4: then you have Trump and his guys who are all 630 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 4: corporate and they're Santo and all this. 631 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: Stuff, like well, it's a crazy contradicting government, like you said, 632 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 3: because even there's a picture circulating on social media. I 633 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 3: don't know if you've seen it, but it's Trump, an 634 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 3: RFK and a couple other people, but they're eating McDonald's 635 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: on the private plane. I think it's Trump's plane and 636 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: this is recent and I think it was Trump's son said, oh, 637 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 3: bringing him to the dark side about RFK, and so 638 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: that I have an account. I followed called the food babe, 639 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 3: and she went through the differences between McDonald's ingredients here 640 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 3: and then McDonald's ingredients in the UK. And we have 641 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 3: so many extra ingredients in our McDonald's food that are 642 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: all poison, like literal, actual poison. And we don't need them, 643 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 3: obviously because McDonald's is functioning in other countries without. But 644 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 3: we have such a mentality of like mass production and 645 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 3: all of that, which is money, which is all what 646 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: Trump is about. So I can't see. I'm confused too 647 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 3: on how we're gonna make anything. 648 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 4: I think that Robinson Gemini. He's a Gemini. He had Jupiter. 649 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 4: Jupiter is in Gemini until ninth and he's golden until then. 650 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. 651 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna make it to the end 652 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 4: of his term. I think these aquarian guys are gonna 653 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 4: get in there. I mean either that or he's gonna 654 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 4: just like kick them all out and fight. You know 655 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 4: they're gonna pu He got all the voters from OURFK Junior, 656 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 4: so you know he's always good to collaborate with people. 657 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 4: Until he's not. We'll just have to see what happens there. 658 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 4: I don't know someone's gonna go. 659 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: There'll be some few this year interesting. So tvd on 660 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 2: the government again. 661 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: I'd be more interesting than the Field Housewives of Salt Lakes. 662 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna say, well, forget on TV, We'll just start 663 00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 3: watching the names. Well, perfect segue, because I told you 664 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 3: before the podcast, I want to talk about celebrity. And 665 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is just me or why 666 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm feeling this, but I have felt such a massive 667 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: shift in the way that I feel like people look 668 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: at celebrity in the last couple of years, like it 669 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 3: just doesn't seem to have this dreamy quality or this 670 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: ooh factor that it used to have. It's obviously still 671 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 3: there and we always are going to have it in 672 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 3: some capacity, But how have you seen that shift? And 673 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 3: is that a part of this new era where maybe 674 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 3: we're all a little more equal or nobody's up on 675 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 3: a pedestal in the same way. 676 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 677 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 4: In Aquarius? Is it Neptune and Aries? Okay, Neptune and Pisces. 678 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 4: Last time was when there was the Romanticism era in 679 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 4: arts and painting. Neptune and Aries began the realism era, 680 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,759 Speaker 4: which is the basis of modern art, and that was 681 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 4: when for the first time major artists started painting everyday 682 00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 4: people as subjects, factory workers. We had the industal revolution 683 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 4: happening then too, and so people were like, keep it real. Basically, 684 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 4: he shows outside of the Academy of Art, kind of 685 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 4: like TikTok. People on TikTok and YouTube are more are 686 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 4: as much celebrities as anyone else. Sometimes, like if I 687 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 4: saw Jules Lebron, I'd lose my mind, you know, Like 688 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 4: being Internet famous is kind of more of the Pluto 689 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 4: and Aquarius vibe and also being harder to find. I 690 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 4: think Neptune and You're having a little bit more of 691 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 4: like a bank scene. I think bank Sea is an Aquarius. 692 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 4: But like your art just pops up, But what does 693 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 4: he look like? Does anyone really one sees him? You know? 694 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 4: Kind of that the mystery people are still gonna want, 695 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 4: Like I think that we say the cozy couple is 696 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 4: going to be like we're sitting around at home like 697 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 4: the Bebes and aren't you know, job and hats and 698 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 4: that's you know, everyone's gonna want to kind of see 699 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 4: the realness. I think we're going to have some AI 700 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 4: slebs who are a lot like Mickey and Minnie Mouse. 701 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 2: Like otoh, okay, that's interesting. Well I did notice Jermese. 702 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, the cozy celep thing was interesting because it's not 703 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: like you're looking at them on the red carpet as 704 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 3: like it was more about their day to day life. 705 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 706 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five is definitely not a glamorous year. Okay, 707 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 4: there's more of a spiritual glamour. It's like, let's see 708 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 4: your inner glow more than your outer glows. 709 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 3: Well, that really works with what I do, because that's 710 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 3: what we always say on Velvet's Edge is that, you know, 711 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: my day job, I'm a hair and makeup artist and 712 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 3: a stylist, and so it's obviously all about external beauty. 713 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 3: But what I found was the most beautiful people to 714 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 3: me were the ones who were doing the inner work 715 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: and really getting to know themselves. And so that's what 716 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 3: this podcast came is just how do we go on 717 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 3: these journeys with ourselves? 718 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: That is where the true beauty is to me, it really. 719 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 4: Is, and that's gonna be what I think the Pisce's 720 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 4: north node is going to illuminate and the Virgo south 721 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 4: note too. Like as much as we're getting this AI, 722 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 4: I think people are gonna kind of veer away from 723 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 4: that and go more like catch me if you can, 724 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna outpace the AI and make myself look 725 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,479 Speaker 4: more stripped down while AI is trying to make these 726 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 4: glamorous bots. Right, of course, it'll always be people who 727 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 4: want that, but sure, realism is Realism is coming. 728 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: Well. You mentioned social media even and I feel like 729 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 3: we've seen that shift since the pandemic of We used 730 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 3: to have the influencers on social media and I used 731 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 3: to do this as well. But you're painting this external 732 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 3: life where it is beautiful and it's photo shoots and 733 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,920 Speaker 3: it's this and it's that, and then the pandemic happens 734 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 3: and we're like, Okay, I'm thinking, how can I post 735 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 3: my outfit when all I wear every day is sweats? Right, 736 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 3: you know, because we're stuck at home and so there 737 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: was a big shift in I know, my personal work life, 738 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 3: but I think a lot of people's and so we 739 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 3: don't really connect as much with this like fantasy version 740 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 3: of life that a lot of social media can bring, 741 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 3: and we want the real human connection and the realness 742 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 3: that we would find with even like our friends. 743 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting right before the pandemic in like 744 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 4: twenty eighteen and nineteen, like there were a lot of 745 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 4: planets bunched up in Scorpio, Sagittarius, and Capricorn. So Scorpio's 746 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 4: mystery sexiness. Sagittarius is like amplifies everything in Capricorn as 747 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 4: a cool and chic insteatu. And then they started to 748 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 4: move and drift towards Capricorn, Aquarius, and Pisces, And now 749 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 4: they're all drifting to Aquarius, Pisces, Aries, Taurus Gemini. So 750 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 4: like the beginning of the zodiac, that's a lot more 751 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 4: like rough and rugged, not that polish, yeah about just 752 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 4: like sporty everyday, like less self conscious energy. So I think, 753 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 4: of course we'll eventually swing back to the glamour, but 754 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 4: Pluto and Aquarius is kind of scrubbing it away and 755 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 4: being like who are you as a being? 756 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 3: You know, I am ready for that. I feel like 757 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 3: a lot of people are. Did I hear somewhere that 758 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 3: the next year there's a lot of similar energy to 759 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 3: twenty twenty. 760 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,879 Speaker 4: There were some big intense transits. But yeah, now it's 761 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 4: absolutely no, it's not going to be so much like that, 762 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 4: just because it's there was some Aquarius energy in Mars 763 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 4: was retrograde and everything, so but maybe such a different side. 764 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 3: Right, totally different energy. Okay, Well, if you guys liked 765 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 3: any of the stuff or you're curious about more of 766 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 3: what we're talking about, I will definitely put the Astro 767 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 3: Twins social media pages where you can go find these descriptions. 768 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 3: But I do really want to talk about the book 769 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: a little bit. So the book is coming out. It's 770 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five astrology just in general, and you can 771 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 3: find your personal breakdowns for each of your sign as well. 772 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 3: Do you recommend people read about their rising sign their 773 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 3: sun signs? Like, what do you find to be the 774 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 3: most important? 775 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 4: You know, if you want to get the most accurate 776 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 4: chart for yourself, you need to know your birth time 777 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 4: and then the houses are all different, so you can 778 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 4: read for either your son or your rising okay, and 779 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 4: you'll have to use the whole sign method, which doesn't 780 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 4: track the houses. We have this big book that I 781 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 4: just held up, but we also have individuals sign books 782 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 4: and We have a little duo, so you can get 783 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 4: one for your son sign, one for your rising sign, 784 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,479 Speaker 4: or you can just get the big book if you want, 785 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 4: and it has all twelve signs. So I say read 786 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 4: for both. We write your sun sign. The sun is 787 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 4: the energy that you burn, like your rising sign directs 788 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 4: your compass, so it does matter. But I really feel 789 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 4: like as you move through your day and you're reading 790 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,959 Speaker 4: a general horoscope, you want to know your sun's sign 791 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 4: because that is kind of the fuel. The sun is 792 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 4: the center of your chart, it's your personality, it's what 793 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 4: fuels you. There are astrologers who will disagree with me 794 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 4: on that, but the rising sign, it does direct the 795 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 4: houses and direct your compass too, so it's worth reading. 796 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 4: But my advice son first, rising second. Okay, you have 797 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 4: like when you get an astrology reading, then the houses 798 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 4: are like the super fine brushes are broad strokes interpretations, 799 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 4: but they work. I wouldn't waste my time running them. 800 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: Right, And so maybe too if you read both and 801 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 3: you can see which one resonates more whatever you're feeling. 802 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,959 Speaker 3: So again, the book is twenty twenty five horoscope book. 803 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: I'll put the link for that in the description of 804 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 3: this podcast, Tali, thank you so much for being here. 805 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 2: It was such a pleasure meeting you. 806 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 4: So fun talking about the sci fi space age. Yere. 807 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 3: I know we'll have to do a twenty twenty six 808 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 3: report so we can also come back and see what 809 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 3: happened here. 810 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, wh or what would be using will be on Mars? 811 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. 812 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 3: Doing the podcast for Mars. That sounds very Aquarius a couple. 813 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 4: Of years to know. Yeah, Paul, thank you so much 814 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 4: for having me on. 815 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 3: Of course, thank you for being here, and thank you 816 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 3: guys for listening. 817 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, 818 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet and a 819 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty 820 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: and relationships. Search Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcasts.