Speaker 1: On today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we have
Speaker 1: a Giants review. Kingsbury has been in his bag man
Speaker 1: calling great games. Is Terry a top ten wide receiver?
Speaker 1: Yes he is, and we previewed the Steelers. They've got
Speaker 1: a dominant defense. But I think Jayden got something for
Speaker 1: him and then big big trade, it all starts right
Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Fulson here
Speaker 1: with Fred Smooth and Santana Mousin and guys. We have
Speaker 1: some breaking news and very rarely have breaking news on
Speaker 1: big trade. Yes, Marshawn Lattimore to the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thoughts, I just think I want to thank the
Speaker 2: football guys right now for blessing us to have Adam
Speaker 2: Peterson in the building.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just feel like this man is if if you
Speaker 2: had to ask, well, it was one thing that Adam
Speaker 2: Peter's doing, don't know nothing about him.
Speaker 3: He plays chess. Yeah, that's what I would say.
Speaker 4: He played checkice and he plays it well.
Speaker 2: I mean every move this guy have made up to
Speaker 2: this point, man has came to a point to where
Speaker 2: it's better in us. I mean, you can honestly just
Speaker 2: see everything just forming into what is gonna be for
Speaker 2: the future. And I think right now, that's the one
Speaker 2: piece that we needed. Man, he just added a guy
Speaker 2: that we so desperately needed and it's gonna make everybody
Speaker 2: else better around him.
Speaker 5: Well, it tells me that they feel like this year
Speaker 5: we can go make we can go to the end. Like,
Speaker 5: let's be honest, do you don't make this moves like
Speaker 5: you make this move to say, you know what, the
Speaker 5: space where we wee get, let's fortify that space. And
Speaker 5: now it bumps saint juice to to and simmer still
Speaker 5: to the inside and it's monogamly to the full corner.
Speaker 5: It just strengthened a whole room. It changed future drafts.
Speaker 5: Next year, you don't have to drive a coner. It
Speaker 5: has changed the whole complexity of his team. You're talking
Speaker 5: about a guy that's around twenty eight years old, still
Speaker 5: in the peak of his career, full time pro bowler.
Speaker 4: To me, it was what we needed.
Speaker 5: It was Johney on the spot, and it's gonna affect
Speaker 5: us for years to come.
Speaker 4: Not only that.
Speaker 2: Men, you just had this conversation two days ago, I believe,
Speaker 2: and I was saying to myself, it's like, and you
Speaker 2: spoke about that, you know, not having number one and
Speaker 2: make it forces somebody else to play that position.
Speaker 3: Now you got that guy.
Speaker 2: Now you got a guy that Joe Wick can honestly say,
Speaker 2: you know what, I can build things around him. This
Speaker 2: guy he can shut down, lockdown where I want to
Speaker 2: put him in zone, press man, he complete everything, And
Speaker 2: now I can toy around with my safeties. Now I
Speaker 2: can do different things. Close this guy and things and
Speaker 2: now bringing guys down.
Speaker 3: To the box.
Speaker 2: So this, this is this right here amplifies any and
Speaker 2: everything that our secondary once was. You know, now Joe
Speaker 2: really has a guy that he can really say, you
Speaker 2: know what, last time I had a guy with a
Speaker 2: little bit of what he has, we did this.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna bring that down to the play.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great point. Like schematically, you know,
Speaker 1: he can do more right more for you can play
Speaker 1: a little bit more man like. One of the things
Speaker 1: I think we've seen over the first weeks of the
Speaker 1: season is that we've been in a lot of kind
Speaker 1: of two shell, a lot more zone, and I think
Speaker 1: in training camp we saw a lot more man, a
Speaker 1: lot more aggressive man. Pressure's ability to kind of work
Speaker 1: those I think about Tampa Bay Week one. You know,
Speaker 1: he wanted to be in a lot more man. We
Speaker 1: were having a hard time matching up, but the pressure
Speaker 1: packages off of that. This is the thing that gets
Speaker 1: you there. And the thing that I think is really
Speaker 1: important is like this defense. This coaching staff is all
Speaker 1: about the football, and this guy is about the football.
Speaker 4: Listen football.
Speaker 1: I went back and watched probably one hundred clips of
Speaker 1: him before we came in today, and one thing about
Speaker 1: him got that great click and close, that great click
Speaker 1: and closed ability, that instinct for the ball, understands route
Speaker 1: concepts really well. You know, he runs. He ran a
Speaker 1: four to three six. I don't know if he's like
Speaker 1: that kind of burner burner, but he's got really strong
Speaker 1: instincts and ball skills.
Speaker 5: And he's a dog too, Like he's a competital like
Speaker 5: him in this Mike Evans Ward. He been having back
Speaker 5: and forth when Cona's getting wars like that. They tell
Speaker 5: me you had to win some of those battles, Like
Speaker 5: they tell me you're not afraid of that battle. You know,
Speaker 5: aj Brown, he's been one of them guys. He loved
Speaker 5: to see this jersey coming. Might not love to see
Speaker 5: it coming so much. Because the one thing about Lattimore
Speaker 5: he's not a small corner.
Speaker 4: Then he gets physical. That's the one thing they want
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 5: They want to force conners the tacker in this league,
Speaker 5: especially in the run game. And he's a guy that
Speaker 5: will come up and do that. Plus he's plays in
Speaker 5: tons of big games. Thing, it's gonna surprise this guy.
Speaker 2: I'm just man, just for the sake of what is
Speaker 2: going to do to that, to that room, to that,
Speaker 2: to that defensive back room.
Speaker 3: I mean that.
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about iron shopping and iron This
Speaker 2: is at its best right now because now sant Is
Speaker 2: still get to go pick a real veteran mind and say, hey, man,
Speaker 2: what am I'm doing to better myself? And then now
Speaker 2: talking about the Saint Jewics, whos going to be seeing
Speaker 2: there and say, Okay, this is what I have to do.
Speaker 2: You have a guy next to you that you can watch,
Speaker 2: you can basically implement, you can basically take everything he
Speaker 2: got to put in your bag. You know, that's one
Speaker 2: of the things that makes us good at our sport.
Speaker 2: You know, at our joshs one of the things I
Speaker 2: did well. I watched everybody. I didn't care if he
Speaker 2: was a starter or not.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna if you have something that I don't have,
Speaker 3: I'm adding to mine.
Speaker 1: And this is something we talked about. You know, Saint
Speaker 1: Juice is the guy that's been matching number one receivers
Speaker 1: and he's really probably.
Speaker 4: He's been honting mooning as a one, Yeah, but he's
Speaker 4: a two.
Speaker 5: Just be honest, because a one could take double digit
Speaker 5: throws at them, yeah, every game and come out of winter.
Speaker 1: And you know, we've talked a lot on this show
Speaker 1: about how we think Saint Juse is playing betteries or confidence.
Speaker 1: This isn't an indictment of him necessarily, but I think
Speaker 1: I think this is this is part of it, right,
Speaker 1: like when you got a good when you when you
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to bring in a good player at
Speaker 1: the right price. We're gonna talk about that in a second.
Speaker 1: It bumps kind of everybody down, So Saint just now
Speaker 1: is kind of that true too, Sanders Still, they've wanted
Speaker 1: to get him back inside since basically week three. Now
Speaker 1: he can be back inside. We've talked about how instinctive
Speaker 1: he's been playing on the perimeter. Get him in there
Speaker 1: and get in a more comfortable natural role. So I
Speaker 1: think this is this is something that we felt needed
Speaker 1: to happen. You know, I thought they might go this
Speaker 1: direction or a pass rusher, but I think the pass
Speaker 1: rush has been playing so well. Yeah, this seems like
Speaker 1: the obvious move. This guy is available, and Freddie talked
Speaker 1: about his caliber, you know, like it's interesting he's coming
Speaker 1: off like a little bit of a hamstring injury.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, that's Adams.
Speaker 1: You think so, you think it's But I was gonna say, like,
Speaker 1: what like when you watch film, like he's playing well,
Speaker 1: but not to the level he was a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. And I hope coming here to this culture
Speaker 1: under Daniel, he's gonna we're gonna get a.
Speaker 2: ReBs going to Spark is gonna like that fuse. And
Speaker 2: that's when of the things about it, man, You know,
Speaker 2: when you have guys at the caliber of a player
Speaker 2: day he is, and you see the trauma one that's
Speaker 2: going on where he came from the sas you scratch
Speaker 2: your head about anything you hear about him, because you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: well maybe it was he was trying to make sure you.
Speaker 3: Can get himself out of that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So I didn't want to put Yeah, played the first
Speaker 3: game back, so I didn't want to add too much
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, man, I know he's happy.
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna be extra pump. Me and Fred
Speaker 2: both been in them shoes. You have to go on
Speaker 2: to other teams, going to another team. I know, I
Speaker 2: remember coming here and I care less about what was
Speaker 2: going on. I wanted to get here, hit the ground running,
Speaker 2: and I wanted everybody to know that what they was
Speaker 2: getting in that trade.
Speaker 5: So I'm sure this guy gonna be eager from losing
Speaker 5: situation to a winning situation.
Speaker 1: I think it's a new opportunity.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a new opportunity to renew in the same season.
Speaker 5: It's very similar to what's happening in Kansas City with
Speaker 5: the receiver Hopkins.
Speaker 3: Hopkins like the hop Goes from last night, like the.
Speaker 5: It's just it's something about the environment and it's something
Speaker 5: about coming to a winner.
Speaker 4: It revitalizes.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's talk about the trade details a little bit.
Speaker 1: At least this is as it's being reported. We don't
Speaker 1: know for sure yet till it's actually finalized. But you know,
Speaker 1: Tanne was talking about Adam Peters, right and the job
Speaker 1: that he does. So the Commanders acquire a fifth round
Speaker 1: pick and Marcus Ladmore this year, they're only paying six
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars on his salary. Who else
Speaker 1: is picking up that money? Yeah, the Saints. They're picking
Speaker 1: up thirty million dollars.
Speaker 4: And they tearbone of the capra.
Speaker 1: There's thirty million dollars. And then there's two years too.
Speaker 3: How much they paying again.
Speaker 1: They're paying thirty million dollars for this year?
Speaker 4: They again, what week?
Speaker 3: Paying six hundred thousand, six hundred and fifty thousand, Lord Mercy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a good deal. And obviously there's two deals,
Speaker 1: two more years on the deal, but they're not guaranteed.
Speaker 1: They can be restructured. So this feels like a total
Speaker 1: win win win. Got a good player in the building.
Speaker 1: Not paying them a ton of money doesn't affect your contract.
Speaker 1: You can restructure the deal if you want. Next year,
Speaker 1: the Saints acquire a third round pick. Where'd that third
Speaker 1: onund pick come from?
Speaker 4: It came from sixth Yeah, it's the Phil trade.
Speaker 1: It came from Dodson, Right, we give him a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick? Or remember we got a fifth round.
Speaker 5: Pick, Logan. We kept the pick from Philly and we
Speaker 5: gave them out.
Speaker 1: It's what I'm saying. We have an extra point is
Speaker 1: we have an extra pick. Yeah right, we have an
Speaker 1: extra pick because of the Johan Dodson trade that goes there.
Speaker 1: We have an extra pick because of John Ridgeway that
Speaker 1: goes to them.
Speaker 5: Also it goes back to them, and then it goes
Speaker 5: back to the original and.
Speaker 1: Then sexually we're swapping a fourth and a fifth and
Speaker 1: we're getting a player. So, you know, Tanny, you were talking.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the words you use. Just like
Speaker 1: the magician, the accountant, whatever term you used to describe
Speaker 1: Adam Peters, that feels like a little bit of magic
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 5: He's the chess king, right he told mate, put the
Speaker 5: money in the bank.
Speaker 4: You listen, No man's need I need. I robbed you.
Speaker 4: This is this is magic, man. This is what happens.
Speaker 5: Now when you get somebody certified in there and they
Speaker 5: understand the x's and o's and the Jimmy and the Joes.
Speaker 2: Now I just love it too, because for the simple
Speaker 2: fact is you hear so many people trying to hey,
Speaker 2: when we're gonna do something, when you know, got my
Speaker 2: job over here, let me do what I do. Man,
Speaker 2: let me do what I do. So when you hear it,
Speaker 2: it's like I said before, it's it's one of those situations.
Speaker 3: Man, we've been here a while.
Speaker 2: We've been here a while, whether we're covering the team
Speaker 2: or play You've never seen moves that was gonna help
Speaker 2: us instantly or that was gonna basically make us a
Speaker 2: better team, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Or better you know we have that position there. So
Speaker 3: this is one of those moves.
Speaker 2: Like now, I know I'm getting a little ahead of myself,
Speaker 2: but I believe in this guy. Think I've watched him
Speaker 2: a lot, a ton of football of him, and he
Speaker 2: plays the way we've been asking for our coins to play.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm looking forward to looking to him.
Speaker 4: That corner.
Speaker 5: He could play off, he could play zonge, he could
Speaker 5: do whatever you need him to do any day, any time.
Speaker 5: And we know as we get closer to the playoffs
Speaker 5: and we get down here and we play in the
Speaker 5: Philadelphia's of the world and these other team with these
Speaker 5: legit number ones, he is gonna be to know, he's
Speaker 5: gonna be the guy that set them. Yeah, he lets
Speaker 5: wit call the defense the way he wants to call
Speaker 5: it not how he needs to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously, needless to say, we're really excited. And
Speaker 1: tomorrow on the Command Center podcast, No, this is the
Speaker 1: commander on the Command Center show, we have more details
Speaker 1: about this trade. So make sure you check that out.
Speaker 1: And in the meantime, let's get back to the regular pod.
Speaker 1: And guys, we were just talking about something a little unusual.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we always talk about the.
Speaker 1: Celebrations from this weekend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what, it was plays and celebrations that
Speaker 5: were berserkers.
Speaker 1: But the one that kind of got me was the
Speaker 1: one where Drake Lennon popped up on his head and
Speaker 1: then fell.
Speaker 5: Over basically a handstand. So he did Saint Brown. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna ride Saint Brown.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I couldn't have pulled it off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have did it.
Speaker 4: You could have did it, yeah, because he said, Jim
Speaker 4: Jim nasty.
Speaker 3: I'm a flipper. Yeah, in so many words, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: put hm in network.
Speaker 4: Can you do?
Speaker 1: Can you do a flip? Like like a backflip?
Speaker 3: Back flip?
Speaker 4: What about you? Have you ever did a backflip?
Speaker 1: Look at me, you.
Speaker 5: Are part of the one athlete. I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 5: if you can do a backflip logan, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Be I can't do a big old Chris Bakers do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you don't know Chris Baker, he's three hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty pounds of default.
Speaker 4: He do a flip after every game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's more impressive when, like, you know that
Speaker 1: dude from the Saints, the defensive tackle got the interception.
Speaker 4: But he used to be a running back in high school.
Speaker 1: Dude, when those big dudes can do it, that just
Speaker 1: means you're different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, most definitely.
Speaker 5: But we gotta say, as much as the celebrations was good,
Speaker 5: I have never ever in my life besides a Barry
Speaker 5: sound that's fifteen yard run where he was going back
Speaker 5: and forth seeing what Saquon did.
Speaker 4: This one what you call it though, tell us what
Speaker 4: you call this is what he did.
Speaker 5: The first dude that got there is a defensive player,
Speaker 5: which I'm like, I'm feeling sorry for him because I've
Speaker 5: been in old shoes, sized him up, left his underwear
Speaker 5: on the grass, so he saw the underwear on the ground.
Speaker 5: The next guy tries to tack him, he jumped butt first.
Speaker 4: You think about that.
Speaker 1: When I saw that, it's like he is so lucky
Speaker 1: someone didn't come and just clean his clock.
Speaker 4: From the back, you know how.
Speaker 2: You know, so you have to be in that his
Speaker 2: shoes to understand what kind of trance he was under.
Speaker 3: And at the times once your start moving, when you
Speaker 3: in one of those lookers, I had to play nowhere
Speaker 3: near that, but I had to play where I needed
Speaker 3: the first down. We just we just it was two
Speaker 3: thousand and now you wasn't here yet.
Speaker 2: Lo I scored. I scored the game when which was
Speaker 2: the game? When it touchdown against the Saints. We got
Speaker 2: the ball back, they got the ball. We got the
Speaker 2: ball back, but we got to get a first down
Speaker 2: to make sure we goes on. So if we don't
Speaker 2: get a first down, they get the ball back. I
Speaker 2: catch a now route and if you picture it, the
Speaker 2: linebacker coming to be b line hit me inside of
Speaker 2: my face. I some ways stopped and cross feet sideways.
Speaker 3: Don't know how I did it, but.
Speaker 4: I was in that trends them a little to what
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 6: Was in.
Speaker 3: He just was in the one of those as to
Speaker 3: where he reacting to every move and the next thing
Speaker 3: told him jump, But he didn't know I'm back with
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a split now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like its man, it's it's got to.
Speaker 1: Be she's lucky, he's lucky didn't get get smoked. But
Speaker 1: I will say someone else another group of people that
Speaker 1: are also in that trance right now, seemingly Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1: They're playing some good football right now. They're leading the
Speaker 1: division seven and two and kind of low key like
Speaker 1: an NFC powerhouse, were willing to go that far.
Speaker 4: Yeah, most no calling for what you see.
Speaker 1: So what are we seeing from.
Speaker 4: We're seeing reality work itself out in that face.
Speaker 1: Because the other NFC teams are obviously the Commander's seven
Speaker 1: to two, Detroit seven to one. Ye, that feels like
Speaker 1: a different, different cut of team.
Speaker 3: Yah.
Speaker 5: Well you know what, because they brought everybody back and
Speaker 5: they trying to finish something they stowed it last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you got the Falcons six and three,
Speaker 1: These are all leading the divisions. And then there's on
Speaker 1: a Cardinals five and four. So obviously we've beaten the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I think we got to go.
Speaker 4: I think the Cardiage is a better team and the
Speaker 4: people think.
Speaker 1: They versus versus the Falcons, But I mean, are we
Speaker 1: on are we on caliber with like the Vikings the Packers.
Speaker 5: I think right now we're in a better spot than
Speaker 5: the Vikings. I think we're in a better spot than
Speaker 5: the Packers. I think right now the cream of the
Speaker 5: crop in the NFC is Detroit. Like we just said,
Speaker 5: I think the Falcons are in the coming ground with
Speaker 5: us where they finally filed the quarterback and Kirk he's
Speaker 5: unlocking weapons like Pitts and Robinson, so he got them going.
Speaker 4: I put us on a different.
Speaker 5: Level because I expect the guy is a bigger unicorn
Speaker 5: than they're expected. Guy, I'm just saying Jay and Daniels
Speaker 5: can beat you the whole way you're talking about then
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins, I'm just saying that main web, it's a
Speaker 5: different type weapon. So, like I said, besides the other two,
Speaker 5: I don't I don't really see anybody else that there's
Speaker 5: a super super threat to us.
Speaker 2: You know, talking about teams, you see the team, you
Speaker 2: see the you know those records that staying out there
Speaker 2: at the top of their division. I never get too
Speaker 2: caught up into trying to compare because until you play
Speaker 2: them you want, you.
Speaker 4: Don't know how you feel exactly.
Speaker 2: So when you looking at them, you're looking at uh,
Speaker 2: you know, Detroit, They're Juggernaut. You're like, man, these guys
Speaker 2: can't be stopped. But they didn't really play us yet,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean the same way with us.
Speaker 4: We don't know we stop. I got think about it.
Speaker 2: Until we played Baltimore, no one gave us credit for
Speaker 2: how good we were. Baltimore was the best, I guess say,
Speaker 2: the best team at the point that we played them,
Speaker 2: you know, and we went toe to toe with them
Speaker 2: without one of our weapons. So that's when teams started recognizing, like, hey,
Speaker 2: maybe this Commanders team is it is really good.
Speaker 3: So I can't get that far ahead and say that
Speaker 3: can we.
Speaker 2: Play with them? I think we can play with anybody.
Speaker 2: It's just what we win. We won't know until we
Speaker 2: play them.
Speaker 4: I can say this out of the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 5: I don't think I ever said this period, since it
Speaker 5: ain't no team in the NFL that this team lined
Speaker 5: up with that that I don't think they got a
Speaker 5: chance with.
Speaker 4: I just feel that.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought that up, because I think
Speaker 1: that's we'll talk about, you know, the Giants game, more specifically,
Speaker 1: in the Pittsburgh game. Come up here in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But like when you look at this list of teams,
Speaker 1: I think Jane Daniels is definitely probably top three quarterback
Speaker 1: in the in the NFC right now. Which is which
Speaker 1: And again, when you have a quarterback like that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it gives you hope and confidence.
Speaker 4: It's dangerous.
Speaker 3: That's the X factor.
Speaker 2: That's the X fastest thing that you can't you know,
Speaker 2: one of the things that you look at we talked
Speaker 2: about the other day, like in situations where you can
Speaker 2: say easily, man, that's you know, we're gonna be punting,
Speaker 2: but he finds the way to get the ball in
Speaker 2: the right person's hands and were moving the change.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent on fourth down.
Speaker 5: That's where we're at right now. That means every fourth
Speaker 5: down and we do it all we do a game
Speaker 5: at the game. It ain't like this. We do it
Speaker 5: every five games one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: That is a legit.
Speaker 5: It reminds me of the Philadelphia Eagles with the Tush push.
Speaker 5: Nobody could stop their fourth down or their shorty orders
Speaker 5: play and then extended drives the entire year.
Speaker 4: It made it.
Speaker 5: It weaponized them into a point to where defenses are
Speaker 5: just floundering trying to find out how can I stop
Speaker 5: this one?
Speaker 4: And they forgetting about the rest of the Eagles playbook, And.
Speaker 3: That's one of the thing that we have going our way.
Speaker 2: That defense is looking at us like on fourth down,
Speaker 2: is he gonna r pot this thing?
Speaker 3: Is he gonna drop back and throw it and he
Speaker 3: gonna whatever whatever?
Speaker 4: Whatever?
Speaker 3: They feel like they have an answer. When they feel
Speaker 3: like they have an answer, he finds another week's opposite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about him again, because you talked about
Speaker 1: how he always seems like he's got the answer, and
Speaker 1: I really think in this last game versus the Giants,
Speaker 1: it felt that way. Yeah, right, Like it felt like
Speaker 1: he had the moment was never never too.
Speaker 4: Big, thirty five sexes the lag at.
Speaker 1: I mean, and also yeah, so no sacks, so great
Speaker 1: job to the offensive line, great job the biglets, great
Speaker 1: job to Jayden. But like, let's just talk about Jayden's
Speaker 1: performance because every week I'm kind of waiting for the
Speaker 1: other to shoot to drop, like him to look like.
Speaker 3: A waiting for it, but he doesn't look like a rookie. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Ever, no, everybody waiting on him to hit that rookie wall.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's what they're waiting on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just feel like, man, one
Speaker 2: of the things that standing out to me is just
Speaker 2: the preparation part.
Speaker 3: You know, that's that's what shows up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It don't seemed like a guy. He seems like a
Speaker 2: guy that's like, oh, I've seen this before. You know,
Speaker 2: you really see that from a young guy. But he's
Speaker 2: out there, he's not blinking when he sees it, you know.
Speaker 2: And then what stands out to me is, you know
Speaker 2: how so many being a receiver, man, I've had so
Speaker 2: many of them. When you have those young quarterbacks, they're
Speaker 2: trying to make the right throw because of what coach
Speaker 2: told them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he sees something. He said, oh, I'm gone.
Speaker 2: No, he processing I see this and it's not I
Speaker 2: don't care if it's gonna it's gonna show up later.
Speaker 3: I'm not waiting on it. I'm goin to go get
Speaker 3: these yards.
Speaker 2: So he understands the weapon that he hasn't with his legs,
Speaker 2: and then his legs that I'm not finna wait. If
Speaker 2: I have to second guess myself, I'm gon take off,
Speaker 2: get four or five yards, get out of bound, and
Speaker 2: then I save myself for a shorter down to this.
Speaker 5: I just seeing a guy growing game by game, And
Speaker 5: what's really I love about his game is I don't
Speaker 5: need to throw for four hundred, I don't need to
Speaker 5: run for one hundred. I'm gonna do whatever needed to
Speaker 5: beat you today. That's what he does. He goes out there.
Speaker 5: He's what you call it true for multiply. I then
Speaker 5: played against good quarterbacks that they are good. They don't
Speaker 5: make people around them better, They just good quarterbacks. Then
Speaker 5: I play with guys that are forced multipliers that bring
Speaker 5: out the best in him, him him, and it gives
Speaker 5: all the offensive age. And when all the offense feel
Speaker 5: like they got an edge, we are then reactive on
Speaker 5: defense instead of proactive trying to ben y'all to I wheel.
Speaker 4: Now we just react, man, cause we don't know which
Speaker 4: one of y'all gonna hurt us.
Speaker 1: And we'll talk about cliffs rolling all this in a second.
Speaker 1: But Jason has a really good question, Producer, Jason is
Speaker 1: when was the last time you saw a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: look this comfortable? And then when was the last time
Speaker 1: you saw a rookie period look this comfortable?
Speaker 4: Last year?
Speaker 1: I mean this to me, I know you're gonna say, CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud right here, I am.
Speaker 1: But the thing again, when you watch the two of them, right,
Speaker 1: there's something.
Speaker 4: About he started faster than CJ.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he started like he just hit the ground running, running,
Speaker 1: And I think that's the I'm just waiting for it
Speaker 1: to be like normal rookie stuff. But like he had
Speaker 1: that throw. I want to say it was in the
Speaker 1: it was in the second quarter, third quarter, second quarter.
Speaker 1: They're driving down, they're throwing that high cross to know
Speaker 1: him around. Yeah, And I was standing right behind them,
Speaker 1: like right on the field level, like right near the
Speaker 1: goal post. I was looking. I was like, that dude
Speaker 1: is covered because all I can see is the linebacker
Speaker 1: be lining under that high cross. Ye do it behind them,
Speaker 1: And that is an NFL open throw. What I mean
Speaker 1: by that is the linebacker's back is to you and
Speaker 1: he cannot make a play on the football and he
Speaker 1: put that ball exactly where it needed to be the
Speaker 1: only plays And so to see that level of throw
Speaker 1: after what he was doing in Tampa, yeah, is like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing that you know, it's funny
Speaker 2: that we talk about all these quarterbacks that came before
Speaker 2: him that has the same ability when it comes to
Speaker 2: using their legs. You know that dynamic when it comes
Speaker 2: to running with the football. But the one thing that
Speaker 2: stands out to me, they has n't. None of those
Speaker 2: quarterbacks have been as dynamic with their own And I'm
Speaker 2: not saying just because they have a huge jump, I'm
Speaker 2: saying placement. I'm saying, you know how they said when
Speaker 2: it comes to what what Aaron Rodgers have that know
Speaker 2: other quarterback have. You know, just the way how he
Speaker 2: can throw it, how he can get rid of it,
Speaker 2: every precision, the accuracy, all that stuff shows. And that's
Speaker 2: what I think that makes him so difficult to stop
Speaker 2: because not only can he escape the pocket and get missing,
Speaker 2: and he don't take time, he wastes no time doing so.
Speaker 3: He can throw anybody open.
Speaker 2: He can he can read process things quicker than most
Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks that have the same skill set.
Speaker 3: And that's why he's so special, Bro, That's.
Speaker 2: Why you're sitting here scratching your head wondering when he's
Speaker 2: going to stop. No, it's not going to stop because
Speaker 2: he had the one thing that all those quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: had that he had, he has the one thing going
Speaker 2: for him now earlier than they did, and that's he
Speaker 2: can use his own.
Speaker 5: I think two guys that I could say from top
Speaker 5: to bottom of the rookie year. They came in scorching hot, unstoppable.
Speaker 3: Name one.
Speaker 4: Two the Michael Vick experience. When Mike hit the scene.
Speaker 4: It's different.
Speaker 3: But because I was gonna say we was all screaming,
Speaker 3: we can all.
Speaker 2: Say Michael Vick. But that's the one thing I don't
Speaker 2: think Michael big process.
Speaker 4: He wasn't. Yeah, but they wouldn't. They wouldn't put it.
Speaker 1: That's a great point for because Michael Vicks a baller,
Speaker 1: but it's it's the thing. The thing that gets me
Speaker 1: is is it's the process, and he has not. He
Speaker 1: doesn't turn the football over, makes big time throws. He's
Speaker 1: very fastidious and like one of the great things that
Speaker 1: I loved was the checkdown Austin Eckler. It's already manned
Speaker 1: up across the boarder.
Speaker 4: He takes what's there.
Speaker 1: And like that's big. Can you get You go watch
Speaker 1: all Twinter, You go to the end zone and watch
Speaker 1: his eyes. First read, it's the dig. Second read here,
Speaker 1: third read balls out and he's losing a little bit
Speaker 1: of ground. Offensive line. His great job ball out and
Speaker 1: so so that again the Mike Vic thing, I love it.
Speaker 1: But there's the.
Speaker 5: Second one, Yago love too, because I think people forget
Speaker 5: how fast it is.
Speaker 4: Second one, stared it out. This guy in his first two.
Speaker 5: Games in the league ended up with six hundred and
Speaker 5: eighty some yards almost seven hundred yards Cam Newton, Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: and he was doing it with his arm, you know,
Speaker 5: like Cam all it out. And he was a blur
Speaker 5: to us because we were like, we've never seen nobody
Speaker 5: in this beat.
Speaker 4: Ye running his face and it's just laying.
Speaker 5: This ball out because Steve Smith was still playing for him,
Speaker 5: like he had a legit weapon. Then he he had
Speaker 5: Greg Osen at tight end. Uh, he had D'Angelo Williams
Speaker 5: in the backfield.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he came with a team. He just started
Speaker 4: out so quick, so quick.
Speaker 1: So those two, I mean, I think that's maybe another
Speaker 1: kind of feather and uh, Jadon's had because like, while
Speaker 1: Steve's Steve Smith, you know Greg Olsen, So I guess
Speaker 1: our Hall of famers and I'm not sure. You know,
Speaker 1: Terry's a good football.
Speaker 4: Player, but we don't know if you hall of Fame, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like for him for him to be elevating the
Speaker 1: force multiplayer thing the way you were talking about is
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. Right, Let's talk about Cliff real quick,
Speaker 1: because Cliffs done just a really good job. I think
Speaker 1: of kind of at every level of the team, just
Speaker 1: managing it, you know, of the offense, let's say, right,
Speaker 1: And one of the things I want to point out is,
Speaker 1: you know b Rob.
Speaker 4: Was gonna play.
Speaker 1: Everyone's a little bit nervous. Is he gonna Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be committed running seen it before the game and
Speaker 1: they are. He is so committed to running the full how.
Speaker 3: Many how many attempts we still had without.
Speaker 1: Be rong, So we have thirty five attempts about that,
Speaker 1: thirty five rushing attempts, thirty five rushing attempts, twenty seven
Speaker 1: passing attempts. And again, like it's the confidence in the players.
Speaker 1: I also Jadon Daniels executing on third down and getting
Speaker 1: where you gotta go. But I just felt like he
Speaker 1: was in his bag, like very comfortable, very confident. And
Speaker 1: I also and it's weird because it's like chicken or
Speaker 1: the egg, but like Jaden's elevating him and he's elevating.
Speaker 4: I think he learned a lot from the Baltimore game.
Speaker 5: He learned Cliff did because he understands we're not a
Speaker 5: for ness team. We and for this, but we're power
Speaker 5: and for this. And he realized, if I don't have
Speaker 5: my guy that wears this defense down, it doesn't allow
Speaker 5: me to let out my explosive my other backs that
Speaker 5: do the thing. But so he said, I'm gonna leave it.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna let Chris be the hammer. Chris
Speaker 5: Rodriguez be the hammer, be the physicality. I think he's
Speaker 5: been doing this though.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is something we talked about coming into
Speaker 2: this season, is that we get caught up in the
Speaker 2: air raid and all that stuff and about how he
Speaker 2: spread things out. But Connor was killing guys. He was
Speaker 2: one of the jobs. He was one of the top backs.
Speaker 3: And you know over there in Arizona when you know
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsburg with stuff, Yeah, he came. He came from
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and tore things up over there.
Speaker 2: So I just feel like that's what makes this offense special,
Speaker 2: that you know he gives you to what you think
Speaker 2: that he's going to do, and then he has when
Speaker 2: you have a quarterback like a Kyla Murray and a
Speaker 2: Jadon Daniels, you just.
Speaker 3: Have something more going. You have something that the average
Speaker 3: offense does happen. You got a plus one, Yes, you
Speaker 3: got another there for the court of the weapon in itself.
Speaker 3: And so think about it.
Speaker 2: Man, you watched that one run and I feel that
Speaker 2: Eckler could still be running right now. They had Matt
Speaker 2: Nicholas on one side, Echelo on this side, and came
Speaker 2: across it, gave the ball to Ekler.
Speaker 3: Eckler breaks through.
Speaker 2: That lineman couldn't do nothing because he didn't know if Eckler,
Speaker 2: he didn't know who had go out. So when you
Speaker 2: have that stuff going for you, man, he's playing minged.
Speaker 3: He's showing you, guys on defense what you want to see,
Speaker 3: and you still got to guess. You still got to
Speaker 3: make sure that you're right.
Speaker 2: And that's what give us that chance, because if you
Speaker 2: second guess yourself, that's four five y'alls.
Speaker 3: We don't got already on you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Basically, he's master Yoda right now and he's playing Jedi
Speaker 5: mind tricks with defenses. Because the one thing you can
Speaker 5: do with the defense if you make us stop our
Speaker 5: feet for one Mississippi two Mississippi. We beat like you
Speaker 5: just said, oh dude, oh dude, had to do this
Speaker 5: and do that, you beat.
Speaker 4: Eckler was so.
Speaker 2: Gone he didn't even know I had to make one
Speaker 2: more cut. I have a block out. Now I'm gone.
Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy is like, that's just like Wanda.
Speaker 1: That's just wander, run and wander. For those of you
Speaker 1: at home, it's just weak side run away from the
Speaker 1: tight end. Yeah, but we're gonna put a little window
Speaker 1: dressing on it, right, We're gonna bring the near back
Speaker 1: who is McNichols, We're going to bring across. It's gonna
Speaker 1: look like he's gonna sift or cut out that backside
Speaker 1: the end. But actually we're reading that backside player. And
Speaker 1: so when you look at this clip to Tennis talking
Speaker 1: about not only are we just getting Wanda in which
Speaker 1: we're pretty good a running, but you're seeing the backside linebacker,
Speaker 1: the backside corner have to keep and hold with jayde
Speaker 1: Daniels on his own read. So it's just it's Wanda. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's day one install open any NFL playbook. It's one
Speaker 1: of the first runs.
Speaker 4: You're gonna learn. But he running it out of such funky.
Speaker 1: For me, it's just it's just and that's the thing
Speaker 1: that's good about it. Everyone talks about how clean the offensive,
Speaker 1: there's no turnovers, all this different stuff like I don't
Speaker 1: know how many plays he's carrying in the game, but
Speaker 1: it's it doesn't seem like a lot. It just looks
Speaker 1: like a lot because they run GT like a ton,
Speaker 1: right guard tackle poll, they run guard centerpool, they run
Speaker 1: it a ton, but they it looks different every week
Speaker 1: they run everyone. I think that's something you got to
Speaker 1: give Cliff a ton of credit for. And the other
Speaker 1: thing you gotta give Cliff credit for is he's done
Speaker 1: a really good job on play action looks of making
Speaker 1: sure that first read is open for Jayden. So for
Speaker 1: as good and his efficient Jayde's ben, he's also like
Speaker 1: Cliff is helping.
Speaker 4: He's giving him an outlet.
Speaker 5: And I could say it is too at least two
Speaker 5: new formations every game that it was a formation late
Speaker 5: in the game where it was a tight end but
Speaker 5: they was.
Speaker 4: Too tighty and lined up as a full back. And
Speaker 4: you know what, you know.
Speaker 1: What you know, you know what's crazy is that's just duo,
Speaker 1: I know it. But it's so think about this. They're
Speaker 1: going to set the two died ends to the left
Speaker 1: right and they're in the back of the full backs right.
Speaker 1: And now we're going to change strength in the snap.
Speaker 1: So we've set the three technique to the offensive left.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to attack the bubble to the offensive right.
Speaker 1: Kick that guy out, lead up, and you know it's
Speaker 1: four minute drill. So Rodriguez has got two hands on
Speaker 1: the football ball and no one touches him.
Speaker 4: For six He running right down here because the defense
Speaker 4: is doing it.
Speaker 1: But again, that is a simple it's again day, every
Speaker 1: team runs it. We're just gonna put a little bit
Speaker 1: of ferry dust on it. Another one and you talk
Speaker 1: about air raid. One of my favorite play calls of
Speaker 1: the game was after Seat had a nice run. It
Speaker 1: was like third and one right, they motioned Benson it
Speaker 1: to the backfield. He runs a flat, Rodriguez cuts the end.
Speaker 1: You know what play that is. That's Spider three white banana,
Speaker 1: Spider three white banana. Jay Gruden talks about that play
Speaker 1: till that's a West Coast offense.
Speaker 4: Get the ball out now.
Speaker 1: But we're running it in this kind of spread system,
Speaker 1: so you can see Cliff just running. It's just a
Speaker 1: good offense, and I think he deserves a ton of credit.
Speaker 1: You know, it serves a ton of credit me always.
Speaker 4: All right, thank you.
Speaker 1: The guy that played in the game was Terry mccormym
Speaker 1: and Tan I know you're excited about this guy. You
Speaker 1: every year you're like, man, how good could Terry be
Speaker 1: if he had a quarterback? Now he's got a quarterback
Speaker 1: and he and his.
Speaker 3: Bab he ain't got to do much either.
Speaker 2: I mean, he was two for two, two catches, two
Speaker 2: touchdown for nineteen yards. He told the little boy, Hey, man,
Speaker 2: you're too small about it's it's it's one of those things, man.
Speaker 2: And this is what it's fun about being in receiving
Speaker 2: when you have a quarterback like that, because this is
Speaker 2: make this is gonna make this whole. I guess you
Speaker 2: can say this duo great because when I don't need
Speaker 2: you to really go out there and and get after
Speaker 2: the day, I'm let know get I'm gonna let know
Speaker 2: it get off the day.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you yours though, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you two tugs and and look you see, man,
Speaker 3: Terry hasn't been this animated throughout the sixth.
Speaker 4: This say is he's.
Speaker 3: The most animated guy on the field right now, and
Speaker 3: that's because he's having fun playing this kid game. And
Speaker 3: it's all because of what Cliff Kingsbury and Jade Dames
Speaker 3: is doing. Fun.
Speaker 4: I love it, man.
Speaker 2: I think you know Jaden and him hasn't even scratched
Speaker 2: the surface on how far this you know? This match,
Speaker 2: this match made in heaven? Can you know go as
Speaker 2: far as you know?
Speaker 1: Up is like giving like a real point here in
Speaker 1: your day.
Speaker 4: Look you, I hear you.
Speaker 3: I think basically he's gonna do a great job and this,
Speaker 3: you know, clear you out.
Speaker 4: Like he got a new nickname. His name is Terry mcscoring.
Speaker 1: Do the scary Terry thing.
Speaker 4: No listen, no him him in Banks, Him and Banks
Speaker 4: been had this thing going know for like a year
Speaker 4: or something that started to cut you off.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about what on earth Banks was thinking
Speaker 1: on the second touchdown.
Speaker 4: They're in quarters, he's supposed to be outside.
Speaker 1: And I know Terry has a six stem. It's a
Speaker 1: good stem kind of.
Speaker 3: This. I don't know how this gives you make you
Speaker 3: do this now.
Speaker 4: He did a good job of stacking him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thought once he stacked him and Terry got him
Speaker 5: from this shoulder to this shoulder.
Speaker 4: It's all aboudy.
Speaker 2: Thing though, And I'm glad you guys brought that up.
Speaker 2: If you have outside leverage on me or inside, you
Speaker 2: could be head up. If I'm running at you. The
Speaker 2: only way you can think, DIGG, is I do this?
Speaker 4: You come? You go? Yes?
Speaker 3: Not with my inside. He said this, so this should
Speaker 3: make you think out. He thought it was going to
Speaker 3: be an out. That's why he came flat.
Speaker 2: Terry kept going, Yeah, it was going to be out
Speaker 2: and that's why.
Speaker 3: And Terry kept going on the fade and he was
Speaker 3: baked chicken.
Speaker 5: You know, you got a quarterback that could throw a
Speaker 5: ball like that ball. Listen, Banks is in no man's
Speaker 5: laying at that.
Speaker 3: That what I call it a yoyo. Listen, because he did.
Speaker 4: He threw it and he took a little.
Speaker 5: He brought it back like you bring it back and
Speaker 5: bring it back, you know, yo yo? Like this is
Speaker 5: what you can always tell a generation, how smart you
Speaker 5: your toys.
Speaker 4: We was a generation of dumb toys. You know that, right?
Speaker 4: I just brought you up about your yo yo and
Speaker 4: a pogo stick, So go jump up and down on
Speaker 4: that play with yo, like them dumb people toy My
Speaker 4: kids got touch green, everything's digital.
Speaker 5: And then like tennis it my daughter we actually win,
Speaker 5: you know, big start, she said Michael Jackson, I like, yeah,
Speaker 5: she got all of this information because I like, go
Speaker 5: out there playing that dirt, be a smart young guy.
Speaker 3: Don't bring no run and then you don't come back
Speaker 3: with non't come in here dirty like Other than that,
Speaker 3: this what it is.
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna pray for Banks because he need to know.
Speaker 5: This ain't gonna no well, no time soon. He got
Speaker 5: to see this area.
Speaker 1: So this is something instring. I've had conversations with producer
Speaker 1: Jason about this. A ton this year. Is Terry a
Speaker 1: top ten wide receiver?
Speaker 3: There you know he was on going into the game.
Speaker 3: I've been saying number for going into the.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jason, this is he on vacation. It's all about Caroline.
Speaker 5: Now tell him stop asking Caroline.
Speaker 1: Carolina Hi intern, Carolina not intern anymore?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, Producer, Caroline, it is you should just.
Speaker 6: I haven't been on the program in a while, so
Speaker 6: maybe he's just throw it out there that Jason.
Speaker 4: Baby, let's congratulation.
Speaker 3: That's to you, Jay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so now we got Caroline.
Speaker 4: No more hater Jason, I say you hater Jason.
Speaker 5: She braves a little bit different energy, but also she
Speaker 5: has a secret that she.
Speaker 4: Needs to tell people.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get through there atle say all right, we'll
Speaker 1: get there a little bit. Yeah, the fans, So is
Speaker 1: he a top ten white out seeing it out of the.
Speaker 4: Top ten water.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that because when you put the numbers up,
Speaker 2: you can't ask that question.
Speaker 4: He's up there, that's who he is, so you gotta
Speaker 4: crown him. But I mean, there's certain I understand what
Speaker 4: you mean.
Speaker 3: You mean from so look.
Speaker 4: Threat wise is what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: When I talk to people who don't know football, they
Speaker 1: pointed the numbers and say, oh, he's a top ten guy.
Speaker 1: If you watch a lot of football.
Speaker 3: You say, it's receivers that might know to it.
Speaker 1: So you know what that's scary.
Speaker 3: Doe is all right, So I'm gonna say yes.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say yes, mainly because you can take the
Speaker 2: yards out the equation, you know when it comes to
Speaker 2: a threat, because you know how like when you get
Speaker 2: ready for a game, who you're getting ready for when
Speaker 2: you play the Commanders.
Speaker 3: If you're a cornerback.
Speaker 2: You get ready for Terry Terry, and what what does
Speaker 2: Terry do if he does nothing else good? What does
Speaker 2: he do when the ball in the is his he's
Speaker 2: coming down with So to me, that's already that's a
Speaker 2: notch right there. So however you want to crown him
Speaker 2: wherever you want to put him at, that's the notch
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 3: But then when you add all.
Speaker 2: That and equaling them to the effect of how is
Speaker 2: he playing?
Speaker 4: You know, I mean how does he does everything?
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing, is how he playing. He's
Speaker 1: playing with the confidence right now? Yeah, like he beat
Speaker 1: you over the top. When a can test the cat situation?
Speaker 1: Can you run every single route?
Speaker 3: I think this is the first year we've been seeing
Speaker 3: Terry stretch the field.
Speaker 4: Be known Terry for years being fast.
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like, it's like I look
Speaker 1: at like his ability to do that and went down
Speaker 1: the field and that's scary to me. We haven't seen
Speaker 1: that a long time.
Speaker 4: It's the resident cornerback in here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about it.
Speaker 5: It's the guy that labels where I receive was either
Speaker 5: stoppable unstopping. Let me tell you how the truth some
Speaker 5: of the dangerous where I received was I ever checked.
Speaker 4: In my life.
Speaker 5: The one thing I used to do is lab before
Speaker 5: the game when I found out who they quarterback was.
Speaker 5: Because I don't care how dangerous you are as a
Speaker 5: wide receiver.
Speaker 4: When I look over there and you got.
Speaker 5: Nate Peterman, you ain't no dangerous in you.
Speaker 4: You are no longer dangerous to me.
Speaker 1: How open you are.
Speaker 5: You are on them, you are at the mercy of
Speaker 5: the guy to the quarterback. So Tai just told you,
Speaker 5: if we go here and we playing Jamar Chase, guess
Speaker 5: whom getting attention? Jamar Chase. So we got a plan
Speaker 5: for Jamar Chase. The only person that can make that
Speaker 5: plan beatable is who is the trigger man. And for
Speaker 5: a long time, and for the long time, Terry had
Speaker 5: no trigger man to put.
Speaker 4: Up thousand a year. So, yes, he's a top ten.
Speaker 5: Because because it trigger man, his time is now. He
Speaker 5: didn't he didn't say that years ago. He didn't say
Speaker 5: I'm good, but he said I'm good with the circumstances
Speaker 5: that I have. Well not, his circumstances are better. They
Speaker 5: better than yours. So at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: he top ten because he gonna get the throws. All right,
Speaker 5: if you play against elite nighbors and he get eighteen
Speaker 5: chances to beat you.
Speaker 4: In one game, we're gonna he probably gonna beat you.
Speaker 5: You at the mercy of your quarterback. And that's why
Speaker 5: I chose defensive back Terry top ten.
Speaker 2: And when you can kill a guy not even getting
Speaker 2: that many attempts, that going to show you right there,
Speaker 2: I don't even have to go out there.
Speaker 1: I don't need Tenause what a Terry got two for
Speaker 1: two to attempts the whole game? Oh yeah, just the reminder,
Speaker 1: Terry twelve quarterbacks in his career, four consecutive thousand yard
Speaker 1: seasons and coming into this game, right, yeah, he led
Speaker 1: the league in single coverage yards, so three hundred ninety two.
Speaker 1: Anytime you got single, single coverage three nineteenes. He's he's definitely,
Speaker 1: he has been. He's a good player. But like to
Speaker 1: Fred's point and the Tannis point, that dude throwing the
Speaker 1: football for a receiver changes everything.
Speaker 5: Ry changes, everything goes by the new Elias Terry mc schooling,
Speaker 5: all right, because he's mixedchooing on you.
Speaker 1: If you watch this, yeah, you know you don't have
Speaker 1: to go with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 5: It's one of the better nick names. I give the
Speaker 5: best nick names. Do I not get a business?
Speaker 1: Can you give the best nicknames? Because you just call
Speaker 1: people their name in people start using it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called him my name too.
Speaker 1: People then it's like that's her nickname.
Speaker 5: Well, guess what if I get a Terry mc schooling jeredy,
Speaker 5: You're gonna have one on the facts. And then if
Speaker 5: I go to McDonald's with him school I.
Speaker 1: Know, dude, that would be so funny, like if he.
Speaker 4: Got a deal from what I just said, leave.
Speaker 1: It, leave a comment.
Speaker 3: You need some point this terror.
Speaker 1: You need a couple of scoring scoringtring.
Speaker 4: So imagine this commercial. Let me paint it for you.
Speaker 5: Come on, Terry walks the courage, Terry walks.
Speaker 4: Up into a McDonald's.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he high fives uh the hamburglar, the high five.
Speaker 4: Grimmy, you want to say high fire Ronald Man? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was, I was saving Ronald for last Yeah. Give.
Speaker 5: He gives Ronald the bump, and then he asked for
Speaker 5: a mcflury and they say, any time for you mix scoring.
Speaker 2: They're gonna tell him he gonna ask for them my
Speaker 2: flurry and they're gonna say, are you taking home?
Speaker 3: Are you taking home of mix scoring? With that?
Speaker 4: All right? That what that terry agent.
Speaker 1: Terry marketing thing? Yeah, but yeah, is mix scoring gonna
Speaker 1: catch on? Leave a comment let us know that is
Speaker 1: all right? So offense feel pretty good about it. There
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff in this game. And run
Speaker 1: the football through the football. Jane looks. Great offensive line.
Speaker 1: We got to talk about them for a second. Great physic.
Speaker 4: Got a nickname for them too. What the nickname is?
Speaker 1: Piglets. You've been saying that all day? So that's it's
Speaker 1: like baseball, Frankinson early the last two hours.
Speaker 5: The piglets because guess what a pig because they ain't
Speaker 5: really the hogs yet, but when they exceed the hogs,
Speaker 5: I'm calling them wild boards right now, right now, no, no,
Speaker 5: because you know, a domestic pig is basically a round boy.
Speaker 5: But when once he's domesticated that they don't need the
Speaker 5: horns to hunt no more.
Speaker 3: But guess what they're playing like some boys.
Speaker 4: But I'm giving it.
Speaker 5: I need to see it before I put you over
Speaker 5: over the hog.
Speaker 4: So once you the only thing bad.
Speaker 2: They build a hog because they them boys got championships. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Well of wild boars the wild Boars when we make
Speaker 2: it to that level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so all good things. The wild Boards
Speaker 1: played good. Everyone played. So let's talk about the defense
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah, and I think I've said this before,
Speaker 1: that group is for sure playing better. They Let's kind
Speaker 1: of just review recap their performance in the game. Let's
Speaker 1: just get high level thoughts. We'll start with Tanner.
Speaker 2: You start with me. I think the run is going
Speaker 2: to be what it is. Them trying to stop the
Speaker 2: run is going to be one of it. It's some
Speaker 2: you know, look, every game that we played a team
Speaker 2: that was I guess you could say that was good
Speaker 2: and doing that, they got their way. They had their way,
Speaker 2: and it took a couple of I guess you could
Speaker 2: say quarters for them to kind of say, okay, we
Speaker 2: know what to do now. And you said something yesterday
Speaker 2: that stood out to me because we was trying to
Speaker 2: figure out what stopped them from, you know, attacking us
Speaker 2: with the run, and I thought, hey, maybe they want
Speaker 2: to be cute and you was like, no, they And
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking about that until I watched the film
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Had the ball for so long at times to where
Speaker 2: they couldn't get out there and play that kind of football,
Speaker 2: nor think.
Speaker 1: It's twenty one seven. Yeah, you're kind of heading the
Speaker 1: third quarter, you can, there's not enough time.
Speaker 2: So so with that being said, that's what makes us special.
Speaker 3: We played complimentary football.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 4: We played.
Speaker 2: We play the football that every team wants to play
Speaker 2: so well because you know what they do well too.
Speaker 2: They get they turn the ball over, they give theirself
Speaker 2: a chance even when they're not playing playing well, they
Speaker 2: do something to disrupt things and give themself a chance
Speaker 2: to get off the field to rebuild. And the offense
Speaker 2: go out there and say, holdo, you know what, we
Speaker 2: got it from here. We'll go down here and score
Speaker 2: for you guys. So y'all, can you know, reset your minds,
Speaker 2: get a little rest, rest up a little bit, and
Speaker 2: come back out here and let's do this again. And
Speaker 2: that's what I think that it's gonna be one of
Speaker 2: those processes all year. I think eventually it's gonna it's
Speaker 2: gonna simmer down. You see games when we played Baltimore,
Speaker 2: we knew Henry.
Speaker 3: Was gonna be here.
Speaker 2: We knew he was gonna get his yards, but it
Speaker 2: took a while for him to get going.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: You look at this game, it was similar to when
Speaker 2: we played them the first time. You know, Singletary was
Speaker 2: the guy that was killing nothing the run game, Ty
Speaker 2: doing this game.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't put my hand on what it is that
Speaker 2: causing them. And maybe you can because logan, like I
Speaker 2: always say, I don't say that just to say it.
Speaker 2: You break down things differently from whatever. I don't matter
Speaker 2: what we watch. Yeah, you find a way to show
Speaker 2: it to me differently, or tell me, give me a
Speaker 2: reason why.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was just something that we couldn't stop.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it was the guys that
Speaker 2: we had, or or or or who he was bringing
Speaker 2: the box.
Speaker 1: What you want?
Speaker 7: You want to want to talk about? I don't want
Speaker 7: to talk to keep talking.
Speaker 4: I know you want to. He breaks down regularly, he
Speaker 4: breaks down.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: Something you want to talk offensive guys, Thank you.
Speaker 5: It's time for the professor step Let me tell you
Speaker 5: what's going on with this defense. This defense understands who
Speaker 5: they are. Yesterday, that game plan was meant to go
Speaker 5: that way. We can't take away everything on offense. What
Speaker 5: they wanted to do is make sure the leak Neighbors
Speaker 5: did not beat us, and they understand my offense is
Speaker 5: not gonna let you do this study drip with us,
Speaker 5: like we're eventually going to score on you and you're
Speaker 5: gonna have to play from behind, changing your game playing instantly.
Speaker 4: And now the game is in the hand of Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5: That so we want the game in the hands of
Speaker 5: And I know Daniel Jones kind of has its way
Speaker 5: with us from time to time. I can't let Neighbors
Speaker 5: do that anymore. So now we're gonna back up and
Speaker 5: play coverage. We played a lot of two high safety yesterday.
Speaker 5: The only time we played one high safety is when
Speaker 5: you've seen Chin coming downhill. Like they understand that was
Speaker 5: situational football. They only did that on first downs. They
Speaker 5: only did that on first downs, and they never did
Speaker 5: that when they got behind the change Because now we're
Speaker 5: finna play coverage to protect Saint Jukes and the.
Speaker 4: Rest of these guys.
Speaker 5: So guess what, and we going to a game that
Speaker 5: were like, we fin the leak in the run game
Speaker 5: this game because we just we got to stop these
Speaker 5: guys from passing. So to me, it was a calls
Speaker 5: in a fit game. Now if we get a team
Speaker 5: like let's say Pittsburgh, I can't let Naja Harris beat
Speaker 5: me like I think I want to put it on Russell,
Speaker 5: let him cook to beat me. You're gonna have to
Speaker 5: cook a five start dinner to beat me, I will say.
Speaker 4: And then that's what I say.
Speaker 5: But then you will have a game where the quarterback ain't,
Speaker 5: the thread in the running back is and now we're
Speaker 5: just gonna play couple one all day and put somebody
Speaker 5: in the box.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a couple of things I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I think, first off, I think the Giants had a
Speaker 1: really well designed run scheme. I think when Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: is going to be a runner, like the way you
Speaker 1: have to account for him, like even if you have
Speaker 1: it in the box he got of lightens you up
Speaker 1: because you have to account for that.
Speaker 4: And he's two hundred and thirty six.
Speaker 3: He was he was Josh Josh.
Speaker 4: He was Josh Josh Allen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've all using him just like Josh Hallen.
Speaker 1: And so the other thing I'd say, too, is to
Speaker 1: Fred and Tanna's point both is there's an element of
Speaker 1: being patient with the way Joe Wtt calls games and
Speaker 1: so on. The I think it's the second drive, second
Speaker 1: drive the game. Right, Our offense just went three and
Speaker 1: out there driving down the field on a six play drive,
Speaker 1: and they're running the ball at will who lost their nerve? First?
Speaker 1: Because if I'm the Giants, If I'm the Giants, OC
Speaker 1: what am I doing? I'm just gonna keep run the football.
Speaker 1: But but Ocs get in, they get impatient and they
Speaker 1: say we needed to get we need to we need
Speaker 1: So what do they do. They try to throw a
Speaker 1: screen and Deontay Fowler punch the ball out And so
Speaker 1: that's a win because what do we do? We go
Speaker 1: down and goes on the score the very next player
Speaker 1: three plays later, right, So there's something to that. There's
Speaker 1: something too that you saw with Cincinnati to be patient,
Speaker 1: get to a third down situation, win the third down
Speaker 1: field goals are winning, turnovers are winning. And so again
Speaker 1: I think opportunistic is the word I'm gonna use because
Speaker 1: and again understanding the dynamics of the team too. If
Speaker 1: your offense is gonna put twenty one in the first half,
Speaker 1: we can we understand at some point you have to
Speaker 1: throw the football. So the only thing that's going to
Speaker 1: really kill us is explosive places, and we can't let
Speaker 1: that hand. So let's get in our cover tunes.
Speaker 4: Let's get NERD Cup four number.
Speaker 1: Fours and be like, hey, we'll let you get five
Speaker 1: at a time. Which this is not a tenable thing
Speaker 1: long term, because for example, they had a six team
Speaker 1: played driving hold long that lasted nine men minutes and
Speaker 1: forty five seconds. If I have to come back in
Speaker 1: a football game and win, that is not the way
Speaker 1: we're going to do it.
Speaker 5: And guess what we came back and did on our offence.
Speaker 5: Then we have like a twelve play ten play for that.
Speaker 5: Guess what that did.
Speaker 4: They allowed the defense to go over there figure out
Speaker 4: some why they risk reset, so we didn't even want
Speaker 4: to score that quick. They understand we need to be.
Speaker 5: Methodical right here because we need to let these guys risk.
Speaker 5: And once they risk, they came back out there and
Speaker 5: not a GIANTZ went three and now now we take
Speaker 5: it back down the field.
Speaker 4: Now you can't play your game no more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so and again. The other one that comes
Speaker 1: in to mind is that red zone stop that they
Speaker 1: had right where they kind of drove length of the
Speaker 1: field the fourth and one they got a PI or
Speaker 1: the third and third one, they get the PI that
Speaker 1: backs them up, have to get a field that's a winning.
Speaker 4: No just winning winning for about us.
Speaker 1: And so again just finding those moments, understanding the composition
Speaker 1: of the team, it was gonna be hard to stop
Speaker 1: the run. They did a lot of cool stuff, a
Speaker 1: lot of his own rigs, a lot of gts.
Speaker 4: They all can coach, he can coach.
Speaker 1: It's good, but they didn't manage. And again this is
Speaker 1: the other thing I point out to. We have managed
Speaker 1: end of half, end of game scenarios better than any
Speaker 1: team in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Peddle to the metal. Like let me tell you why.
Speaker 5: Teams like you remember New England with Brady, They used
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 4: It all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when a team is already in that gear, when
Speaker 5: they have to get in that gear, it's sick of
Speaker 5: nature to these like so if they ever.
Speaker 4: Get in a hurry up things, this is what we
Speaker 4: do anyway.
Speaker 1: This other one team in the NFL and no huddle.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when they get in no huddle, when they
Speaker 5: get in two minutes, it's already a part of their identity,
Speaker 5: Like nothing stops with them.
Speaker 4: And he been layering that weekend.
Speaker 5: We cant like he'll give him one more play, like
Speaker 5: one more play than you had week four.
Speaker 4: We're gonna add it to this. Hurry up.
Speaker 5: Now he's running that thing with his eyes closed and
Speaker 5: guess what. Guess who can't sub and guess who can't
Speaker 5: the D line can't come out the past rush stops.
Speaker 1: You ever watched them a fight like some dudes cardios
Speaker 1: just better than Yes, that's what it feels like. Remember like, uh,
Speaker 1: the be Kavina men if remember that guy, he was
Speaker 1: like a rushan, knocking everybody out and so he would
Speaker 1: just get you in deep waters, would start mouth breathing,
Speaker 1: and it was like the fight's over in the first round.
Speaker 1: And so when you watch this team get in no huddle,
Speaker 1: you can see the D line now Russian as well.
Speaker 2: You get to coverage that's similar to and I didn't
Speaker 2: want to cut you up, but I want to say
Speaker 2: you've been there. We did that when we got into
Speaker 2: and we got in two minutes, it was like it
Speaker 2: was second nature. Does like we knew what we was
Speaker 2: going to do and we knew he was going to
Speaker 2: move to change, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So again I think the defense is improving each week.
Speaker 1: Are there things they can get better out of course,
Speaker 1: but I think in the back end they're playing more consistently,
Speaker 1: and I think they understand exactly who they are and
Speaker 1: there is there is there is value.
Speaker 5: I can say is it was a couple of plays
Speaker 5: against the Giants where they shot Frankie Luvu out of cannon.
Speaker 4: Listen, when this guy decides to come.
Speaker 2: Down too, they was they was making sure that he
Speaker 2: wasn't the guy that was gonna wreck then.
Speaker 4: Thank you so.
Speaker 5: But when you pay him there a much attention, got it,
Speaker 5: Come along comes the other guy, Like here comes the
Speaker 5: other guy.
Speaker 3: We had like four sacks that we didn't get because
Speaker 3: of you know.
Speaker 4: Just circumstances. But when Frankie Louvu goes down here, he comes.
Speaker 5: Down here with an attitude of destruction and demolish.
Speaker 4: He's a very violent guy. I enjoys valence.
Speaker 5: A right, So at the end of the day, that's
Speaker 5: what you want. But they know, add him to a
Speaker 5: pass rush changes the pass rush.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So now we've kind of reviewed the Giants game,
Speaker 1: lots of very positive things coming out, and now we've
Speaker 1: got maybe maybe the biggest game of the year. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's the biggest game because and I think if Dan
Speaker 1: were here, he'd be like the game. This is the
Speaker 1: next one, this is the biggest one. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers a little bit. Obviously, Walll coach football team,
Speaker 1: Wall coach on defense. Offense is kind of figuring it out.
Speaker 1: High level thoughts. We'll start with Fred. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Pittsburgh Steelers?
Speaker 5: They are to me what I call a three layer cake.
Speaker 5: And if you enjoy desserts, you should know every layer counts.
Speaker 4: And when you got a three layer cake, what makes
Speaker 4: it so special as the.
Speaker 5: Ingredients, high end ingredients, the right heavy cream, the right flyer,
Speaker 5: self rising, everything you need. Now, when I look at
Speaker 5: this this Pittsburg team, I ask myself, where are the stars?
Speaker 4: They got him on all three levels? Hayward and t J.
Speaker 5: Watt when it comes to rushing the pass and stopping
Speaker 5: the run like Queen and the rest of those backs,
Speaker 5: with hoighth Smith on the second level, Mika Fitzpatrick's Joey Porter.
Speaker 5: These are star, high end players. You want to switch
Speaker 5: it to the offense coming in, starting with the wide outs.
Speaker 5: You got Pickings, a guy that can beat anybody down
Speaker 5: the field, love contested ball, and he's scrappy and he
Speaker 5: loves to get down in the run game and block.
Speaker 5: Then you got Pat fryerm You people don't talk about
Speaker 5: a lot. I think he tight end. They got a
Speaker 5: legit line. I can't say it's the best line in football,
Speaker 5: but they do play well together.
Speaker 4: They got a quarterback that they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: They got Naja Harris, one of the better backs in
Speaker 5: the league to me, Three legl cakes. So you gotta
Speaker 5: have your a game with these guys. But just like
Speaker 5: we talked about with the Giants, once they get behind,
Speaker 5: they have to switch their game plan. And if they
Speaker 5: forced to let Cheff Russ cook, I think we got
Speaker 5: a chance.
Speaker 4: To tilt everything if they do that.
Speaker 5: But if we let them stay balanced, especially with Danny
Speaker 5: Smith coaching that special team, I think they gotta I
Speaker 5: think I don't know who's first and who's second, but
Speaker 5: I think we are the two top special team teams
Speaker 5: in the league between Pittsburgh and Washington.
Speaker 4: This is this is most even as it gets, this
Speaker 4: is gonna be a brawl.
Speaker 3: I mean, the one thing that.
Speaker 4: I was like, you know, I had I don't know
Speaker 4: what I had said, I'm back.
Speaker 1: Washington on line.
Speaker 3: I was like yeahs, I'm like, where the hell does
Speaker 3: that come from?
Speaker 4: Self rise and all that.
Speaker 3: The taste is the taste. The ingredients are difference. Like
Speaker 3: some people use putting. They used like you're a baker,
Speaker 3: You're a baker. Yes, you said all that, but I
Speaker 3: would say this. I think the one thing that stands
Speaker 3: out to me about this and Fred hit it on
Speaker 3: the head.
Speaker 2: I don't have to go through all that because defensively,
Speaker 2: those guys can get after the ball.
Speaker 3: They opportunitististic, you know.
Speaker 2: You said that best far as getting turned over that
Speaker 2: thing that's second in the league and that and the
Speaker 2: thing that stent out to me.
Speaker 3: Though, this is where it's going to be to me.
Speaker 2: I think the deciding fact of how this game unfolds,
Speaker 2: which rush we're gonna get. I think right now, the
Speaker 2: games that he has played been great, been great.
Speaker 3: He's done his role, He's done his part.
Speaker 2: This is the game where we're gonna say, Okay, we
Speaker 2: want to see the old rush. We want to see
Speaker 2: the one that you know from g We want to
Speaker 2: see the one that.
Speaker 3: Hold onto this battle a little longer. The second guess
Speaker 3: in itself. I want to see what we bring to
Speaker 3: the table with.
Speaker 2: Package wise, because I think when I'm watching, I watched
Speaker 2: him the past two weeks. They had to buy this
Speaker 2: last week, so I didn't get a chance to watch it.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go back and watch some of the
Speaker 2: fam I've already watched, but I watched him seeing things clearly,
Speaker 2: getting the ball's hand a sap. He's not waiting, so
Speaker 2: he's pushing the downfield, which they want him to do that.
Speaker 3: And when he's doing that.
Speaker 2: He's getting a chance to throw those fifty fifty balls
Speaker 2: to your boy pickings down there, because that's what he
Speaker 2: does well. But it don't look nothing like the old rush.
Speaker 2: So now I want to see how we do playing Jedi.
Speaker 2: You say all the time, Jedi mind games with our defense,
Speaker 2: the coverages, what we see to see if he's going
Speaker 2: to be because you know, if we do take the runaway,
Speaker 2: we bring that guy in the box and force him
Speaker 2: to say, oh.
Speaker 3: I got I got action out on our side.
Speaker 4: Is he going to do what he say?
Speaker 3: Is he gonna cook like he wants to cook?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I don't think so, I don't.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be the one that we
Speaker 2: can allow to take a step back.
Speaker 3: That that's how we beat these guys.
Speaker 2: We beat these guys by making him guess and second
Speaker 2: guess itself and say I see something, yeah, but oh
Speaker 2: my bad.
Speaker 3: It's not that. It's not clearly not what I thought.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna toss it up anywhere, and not what I thought.
Speaker 4: I want to see. Since he's been back, they haven't
Speaker 4: had to play they have they haven't.
Speaker 5: They've been in the lead every game, every step, every quarter.
Speaker 5: I want to see Russ a little panicky. I want
Speaker 5: to see Russ with a little emergency going on.
Speaker 4: I want to see Russ with the crowd going against him.
Speaker 5: You know, sometime when family come to games, we try
Speaker 5: to we try to give them a present, We try
Speaker 5: to show out for them.
Speaker 4: We try to do too much instead of just do
Speaker 4: what we do every week.
Speaker 5: Well, Russ is from VA, and I gotta feel there's
Speaker 5: gonna be a lot of Wilson's in the house, not
Speaker 5: just the one from VA. Even the Aarraw Wilson might
Speaker 5: be it. All I'm saying is one of those games.
Speaker 4: Do you try to do too much? Mister Russ? That
Speaker 4: just the question I'm asking, do you try too hard?
Speaker 1: I think that's a great point, and so thank you.
Speaker 1: Just to give some just to give some context here.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think is this team
Speaker 1: is really similar to the Giants with one big exception.
Speaker 1: Their defense is really really good. They're able to stop
Speaker 1: teams running the football, and then they have a stable
Speaker 1: of very dynamic pass rushers.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: You know TJ. Watt, I think he leads the NFL
Speaker 1: in forced fumbles. Right, He's dynamic off the edge. Right,
Speaker 1: it's High Smith on the other side. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: not a fifteen Sat guy, but definitely a twelve Ryan
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Nick Herbig is their third guy, very dynamic.
Speaker 1: And we haven't even talked about Cam Hayward. So what
Speaker 1: I think that I would say is if if you
Speaker 1: do a good job again with game flow, they're going
Speaker 1: to be in a bad spot. The thing is is
Speaker 1: they really lean on their defense to keep them out
Speaker 1: of the bad game flow. They stopped the run. What
Speaker 1: do we want to do? We just talked about it
Speaker 1: on the football right now, we want to power on
Speaker 1: the football. It's going to be tough this week. Right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna play a little bit of man coverage on
Speaker 1: the outside and say we dare you to try and
Speaker 1: beat our man coverage because we're going to get home.
Speaker 4: With the path. I think we can run about them.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. If you can run the
Speaker 1: football like the Giants said. I thought the Giants it's
Speaker 1: some good stuff with formation kind of getting into three
Speaker 1: by one and messing up their counts and getting guys
Speaker 1: to walk out of the box.
Speaker 4: Which Cliff will do the same thing.
Speaker 1: There's an opportunity, but it's it's not gonna if you
Speaker 1: can get out ahead of this team, They're going to
Speaker 1: struggle Sugg. But the problem is their defense is so tight.
Speaker 1: Their defense is so good that you never get in
Speaker 1: this weird game flow where we got to say give
Speaker 1: the keys to Russ. So what I would say this
Speaker 1: week that's probably the most boor thing is ken Cliff
Speaker 1: push it, score some points and then let's get Russ
Speaker 1: doing Russ things because right now, the thing that's elevated
Speaker 1: their offense. The difference between Fields and Russ is that
Speaker 1: he just pushes the football on the field.
Speaker 5: He pushes the safety out of the box, he makes
Speaker 5: them push the reverse. But this is how we beat
Speaker 5: the power football Like this is a Brian Robinson Chris
Speaker 5: Rodriguez scrap on your scrap.
Speaker 4: Run at t J. Watt Queen.
Speaker 5: As talented as he is, I think he might be
Speaker 5: two twenty nine.
Speaker 1: To struggle right now.
Speaker 4: I think run right at him.
Speaker 5: You understand, because what we need to do is I
Speaker 5: need to tire out TJ. White on first and second.
Speaker 5: The only way I could do that is power run
Speaker 5: game at him. I'm not running away from him. He's
Speaker 5: a chaser. He chases people for a living. Let's see
Speaker 5: you take on this power bob oh. Let's see you
Speaker 5: take on this off tackle. Let's see you take on
Speaker 5: Ben Senning in a couple of these tight ends.
Speaker 4: Let's let's see can you.
Speaker 5: Stay at basemotail for a couple of days at the
Speaker 5: end of the day, I want to run you because
Speaker 5: when you start dealing with Mika Fitzpatrick, that safety, when
Speaker 5: you start dealing with Joey Porter and them, they are
Speaker 5: going to say, we're gonna play tight and right, We're
Speaker 5: gonna play high on Terry and we're gonna force Noah Brown.
Speaker 4: And he's the guy to beat the guy.
Speaker 5: So I think, let's go bludgeting I'm in the first
Speaker 5: quarter and come out and run around him. And I
Speaker 5: mean in the first half and come around and running
Speaker 5: around him in the second.
Speaker 2: I think ERTs and noise is the key to our
Speaker 2: success offensively because just what you're talking about, and I
Speaker 2: was sitting there thinking about it, I'm like, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna leave you boy on Terry by himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could play tight man and all that.
Speaker 4: Somebody.
Speaker 1: So get this Joey Porter Jr. One on one with
Speaker 1: bleak neighbors the entire game. They might see him that way,
Speaker 1: and I think that'd be an interesting matchup because Joey
Speaker 1: Porter is a big.
Speaker 4: Very long He's long but watched.
Speaker 1: So the thing is the thing i'd say, is because
Speaker 1: the pass rush is so good. Yea, all the times
Speaker 1: you just need a little disruption.
Speaker 3: That's all you need. And they're gonna women saying that
Speaker 3: for years.
Speaker 1: And Cliffs done a great job of kind of coming up,
Speaker 1: coming up with protection plans, and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see that. But I got I want to ask Caroline.
Speaker 1: So we know a lot about Pittsburgh. But Caroline, you've
Speaker 1: been a fan since before you were born. Probably is
Speaker 1: what take here? Do you think is the most spot
Speaker 1: on here, most spot on take?
Speaker 6: Yes, I think Russ opens up everything. I think it's
Speaker 6: obvious as a Steelers fan watching Steelers religiously for at
Speaker 6: least the last seven years since post Big Ben Tommy Johns,
Speaker 6: we have not pushed the ball down the field whatsoever.
Speaker 6: Najee Harris is.
Speaker 4: Having the best three games.
Speaker 6: The best three games of his career, point blank and
Speaker 6: man included, because we're actually throwing the ball down the
Speaker 6: field and things are opening up and we're actually playing
Speaker 6: balanced football. The Arthur Smith offense does not work without
Speaker 6: having a balanced run in pass offense.
Speaker 4: It just doesn't.
Speaker 6: So Nause is just eating off the fact that we're
Speaker 6: actually throwing the ball down the field and they're not
Speaker 6: just spying Nause and he's not losing yards like It's
Speaker 6: just been a difficult.
Speaker 3: Few years to see him.
Speaker 6: To see him get going has been the most exciting
Speaker 6: thing because he's.
Speaker 4: Had that in him.
Speaker 6: We just haven't had a successful offensive coordinator the scheme
Speaker 6: of games like this. But Russ for sure just he's
Speaker 6: been cooking, at least for the de ball throws they're
Speaker 6: trying to mark at that moon ball. I never heard
Speaker 6: of that until he's been a silly.
Speaker 4: He hasn't even really been in his bag.
Speaker 3: He's cooking but he's doing he's basically for.
Speaker 5: Myself, but he also cooking it. Yeah, I don't remember
Speaker 5: on the stove. I'm gonna tell you where he is
Speaker 5: cooking it. It's this old restaurant that used to be
Speaker 5: in the South called Po Folks. I don't know if
Speaker 5: y'all hold of it, But he and Folks cooking right
Speaker 5: now because he understands haven't done much.
Speaker 3: You know, he's just doing his job.
Speaker 4: He's doing the normal at a very high left.
Speaker 2: But you know, we say Russ cooking. Russ is out
Speaker 2: there willing and dealing, changing game, doing it. But right
Speaker 2: now he just sticking to the structure in.
Speaker 4: The structure of it. And we got a chance to
Speaker 4: take him out of this cook sure.
Speaker 5: The one thing she did say is Arthur Smith, author
Speaker 5: used to coach here when I played here, as I
Speaker 5: watched Arthur grow in his play college after Arthur is
Speaker 5: a runner at heart. Arthur is going to try to
Speaker 5: force them offensively to be defensively. They're gonna try to
Speaker 5: keep Jayden on the bench. The way you keep jan
Speaker 5: on the bench is ten, play, twelve, play, fourteen, play
Speaker 5: drives with running the ball. That while I say, take
Speaker 5: Nag out the game and force rush to cook. And
Speaker 5: I think that's our best chance right there, because then
Speaker 5: we tested Arthur Smith too.
Speaker 2: But you know, one of the things like, regardless of
Speaker 2: how our defense has played against the run, and they
Speaker 2: just find a way to beat this, they find a way.
Speaker 2: Like that's one of the things I love about, you know,
Speaker 2: this whole dan Quinn Joe Witt junior experience when it
Speaker 2: comes to the defense, because that's what we saw for
Speaker 2: the last four years in Dallas. That's what we saw
Speaker 2: when they was when when dan Quinn was That's what
Speaker 2: we saw when he was over there.
Speaker 3: And see like this defense.
Speaker 2: Has traveled everywhere he's went and it's been the same
Speaker 2: type of you know, turnout. No matter how where they
Speaker 2: susceptible at, he still finds the way to get after
Speaker 2: that football finds a way to put you in a
Speaker 2: situation to make you panic, make you second guess yourself,
Speaker 2: and we find a way to make one of those
Speaker 2: plays that's going to change the ball game. So that's
Speaker 2: why I want to see. I want to see us
Speaker 2: make Russey.
Speaker 4: It's time for me to will to deal.
Speaker 3: It's time for me to get out here. And they
Speaker 3: don't want them to do that.
Speaker 4: They don't. They want to scrub.
Speaker 3: This is the game, This is the game.
Speaker 4: But you're just black out. Yeah, one of your moments.
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of blocking out.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the final segment of the show,
Speaker 1: fan favorite Everybody Loves Us. It's hell yeah or hell no?
Speaker 4: No? No? Did they ever? Did they have a name?
Speaker 4: The Hell Mary? Is it called the Raise? Hell Man?
Speaker 1: I heard someone nationally said hell Noah. I heard NASA,
Speaker 1: and I was like, don't do it. I don't give
Speaker 1: what I was going to tell you about him, but
Speaker 1: I heard that.
Speaker 5: But you know what, as much as I heard that
Speaker 5: hell Noah, I think the Raise Hell Mary, it'sse That's
Speaker 5: how Monica raised hell So raise hel Mary?
Speaker 1: Like the Miracle in Maryland? Like that.
Speaker 4: Don't say the dm V it that's fair point v.
Speaker 3: I like, I care less.
Speaker 4: I just named it right afterward. You see what I'm
Speaker 4: saying with American in Maryland. That could have been anything.
Speaker 5: That could have been miracle will Yeah, that could have
Speaker 5: been my uncle Tommy catching crabs Maryland.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, it ain't good.
Speaker 1: All right, Well shut down my idea. Here we goes. So,
Speaker 1: so first one, Russell Wilson cooks three hundred plus yards
Speaker 1: zero interceptions to t ds.
Speaker 5: Hell no, no, no, because if he do that, they
Speaker 5: didn't want this wrap. I say the ark row, Hell no,
Speaker 5: the field house, the fair house rocket.
Speaker 4: We ain't lost it. We ain't lost it yet. So
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say.
Speaker 5: Russell goes for one ninety two turnovers because he's trying
Speaker 5: too hard.
Speaker 4: A fumble in the interception, fumble and interception.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the one thing he does when get outside
Speaker 5: of somewhere, he holds the ball very low and Frankie
Speaker 5: Louc likes the tattoo people like. So at the end
Speaker 5: of the day, I do see him being separated from
Speaker 5: a ball, and I do see him trying to cook
Speaker 5: his rust and overthrowing the ball. So maybe maybe I
Speaker 5: see monogamy interception.
Speaker 3: I see interceptions in our future.
Speaker 4: Thank Leo, now call me now.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. Got control. Yeah, So I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, hell no, it just seems like way
Speaker 1: too many yards passing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna run.
Speaker 1: They're gonna run the ball. We're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a short game, limited possessions, Like it's
Speaker 1: not now.
Speaker 4: We get up early.
Speaker 5: Maybe he could throw for three hundred trying to throw
Speaker 5: themselves back into into.
Speaker 3: The game, but we're sticky back then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so he hasn't. I mean, he's done it
Speaker 1: right the past two weeks he had two hundred sixty
Speaker 1: four versus the Jets and two eighty nine versus the Giants.
Speaker 1: But the Giants aren't good, so we're better than them.
Speaker 4: Okay in New York, huh, they beat everybody in.
Speaker 1: But the good thing we're in the DMV, all right,
Speaker 1: so second one another thirty plus carries for the Commanders.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think, I think, I think?
Speaker 2: What something that's about the recipe of us going thirty
Speaker 2: or more? We have wins behind it, So that's a
Speaker 2: to me, that's the recipe of us having a chance
Speaker 2: to win the game.
Speaker 3: Is us being able to put that ball in somebody
Speaker 3: belling and blood and blooding. People like y'all just don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a defensive player.
Speaker 4: How that wears on us? Think about it.
Speaker 5: If you run at me as a corner, you run
Speaker 5: like five toss sweeps at me.
Speaker 4: By the time I got a.
Speaker 3: Chick tanner, I'm huffing in puss and you got to
Speaker 3: think about it too, man. I know we talk about
Speaker 3: t J.
Speaker 2: Watt and those boys and how you know verocious they
Speaker 2: are when it comes to running up the field. Just
Speaker 2: think about how many times they gonna want to be
Speaker 2: tattooing your boy j D five and not knowing if
Speaker 2: he's going to be pulling that ball. This is one
Speaker 2: of those games where we finished be able to really
Speaker 2: check them and see how discipline is you. Do you
Speaker 2: want the sack or do you want to make sure
Speaker 2: to make sure you stop this play.
Speaker 4: Where your eyes it?
Speaker 2: And and I can see our running back getting a
Speaker 2: lot of big, big gashes just knowing that they want
Speaker 2: to make sure that you know, Jad don't have that ball,
Speaker 2: and them sitting out their second guess and thinking, hey,
Speaker 2: let's make sure we stop here.
Speaker 5: Guess what they ain't been doing? Tell them because of
Speaker 5: this past Russ getting home. All the time, these DB's
Speaker 5: are used to checking one route. They are usually checking
Speaker 5: their first phase of a route. Well, I receivers get
Speaker 5: to run the second phase of a route and the
Speaker 5: third phase of a route. So as good as poor
Speaker 5: of us jamming, they ain't gonna save your Keysta this week.
Speaker 5: Because my quarterback can get outside the pocket. And now
Speaker 5: my comeback just turned to a comeback and go.
Speaker 3: This is the perfect week.
Speaker 2: So if you watch the last since the kid been here,
Speaker 2: since Nord Brown been here, every time he goes out
Speaker 2: for a deep balls, he's getting a pass inference. They
Speaker 2: So if you want to press this week and you're
Speaker 2: gonna give us a single high, you know that boy
Speaker 2: can read with the best them play games with that safety,
Speaker 2: get them off and throw the This is gonna be
Speaker 2: the week when they gonna give us. They're gonna give
Speaker 2: it because they're not gonna be They're not gonna be ready.
Speaker 2: I can't say they're not gonna be ready, because these guys.
Speaker 4: Get paid for it.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be But I do believe that Jayden has
Speaker 3: something that a lot of these quarterbacks that they face
Speaker 3: up to this point didn't have.
Speaker 4: And he has a threat. He's a threat three different ways.
Speaker 4: He can.
Speaker 2: He can, he can take it and running, he can,
Speaker 2: he can, he can throw somebody open and the end
Speaker 2: of the day, he can find the way to get
Speaker 2: that ball to the right guy when break at the
Speaker 2: most convenient time, and and see when those guys get
Speaker 2: a p I two.
Speaker 8: So yeah, So so hell yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say hell to the WM the hell I'm
Speaker 8: the hell yes, But I'm gonna say that's the reason
Speaker 8: is is Jayden's gonna be excellent on third down.
Speaker 1: That's why I think that. I think when you like
Speaker 1: to me, carries to me are a bad statistic for
Speaker 1: like rushing efficiency, because really a third down efficiency means
Speaker 1: you're more efficient running the football, right, because you get more.
Speaker 4: Off because you're getting it on first, you get more places. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, So I think that that's what i'd say is
Speaker 1: if Jayden's good on third down, we will have thirty
Speaker 1: plus carry. And if you're thirty plus claries, you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna win the game. All right, Okay, let's go. The
Speaker 1: lead swaps three or more times during the game, Washington
Speaker 1: is six and oh when leading at the half.
Speaker 3: Hell no, I think some more times.
Speaker 1: No, No, okay, three or more times and we're six
Speaker 1: and oh the commanders when leading at the half.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I say it's switches early in the first I
Speaker 5: think it goes back and forth, all right, and I
Speaker 5: think after that we do what we've been doing, and
Speaker 5: it's make people play from behind.
Speaker 1: I say, hell, no, that's hell not yeah, So yeah,
Speaker 1: want you want one lead change?
Speaker 4: Basically I'm going too leads.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so it could be three.
Speaker 1: So what do you say?
Speaker 3: I say, hell yeah, hell yeah, could be three.
Speaker 2: If you're going total toe with them and they halftime,
Speaker 2: we just say all right, it's a ton of time.
Speaker 5: And if you tell them it's a heavyweight fight, both
Speaker 5: both both fighters gonna get punched in.
Speaker 4: I go here, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a really close game. I
Speaker 1: think this is the best defense we've played.
Speaker 4: This year, and especially you think they're better than than
Speaker 4: the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Better than this is where I think the Ravens get
Speaker 1: helped out because the Ravens offense is so much better.
Speaker 4: It really like listening them play with a different type age.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: These guys over here is playing.
Speaker 1: They're a defensive driven to and we have not heavy.
Speaker 2: About because I just knew, like when you watch that
Speaker 2: first that first series or two from the Ravens game,
Speaker 2: they had some funky looks out there.
Speaker 4: This is gonna be yeah, but they ain't got the
Speaker 4: past rushes.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you that Pittsburgh game put your mouth
Speaker 1: beast in this week no pacify you.
Speaker 4: This is a passify your game right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that's gonna do it. For today's
Speaker 1: show really went quick, went by so quick. Please make
Speaker 1: sure you like him, subscribe wherever you get your podcasts,
Speaker 1: and if you want to see us on YouTube, make
Speaker 1: sure you check us out there. But that's it you
Speaker 1: next time,