1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? Yes? 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 4: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Ready for a break? 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so much for that. It's time for the Break. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: On Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We were on break with 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Nick Harris and Derek Eagleton. 10 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 5: It is Monday, October twenty first, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 11 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 5: episode number fifty one. Welcome to the latest edition of 12 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 5: The Breakway Life in the s WBC Mortgage Studios at 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 5: the Star, presented by lglg's the world's number one o 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 5: ed TV brand for eleven years in counting See why 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 5: at LG dot com. 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: Forward slash o ed evo. Welcome to the show. 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 5: We got our guys here with us ambers out. She's 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 5: handling some business for the team. Uh traveling, but she'll 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 5: be back tomorrow. Till then, though, today it's up to 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 5: us to get you guys. I guess restarted here. We 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 5: had a nice little quiet break here with with a 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 5: bye week. Cowboys didn't play yesterday, so that was a nice, 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 5: nice moment just to sit back. 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: It was nice. It was a nice moment just sit 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: back and watch some football. 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 5: It was It's always nice in a bye week when 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 5: you work in the sport to be able to sit 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 5: and watch other teams and just kind of get a 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 5: feel for the rest of the NFL. 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: It's a lot of fun. 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 5: Actually, that's rekindle your your your love of NFL football. 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: You wonder why you work for the Cowboys. 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 5: And I don't know if it made me do that, 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: but it did make me enjoy. 35 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not not working for the Cowboys. Working with 36 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: the Cowboys. It's fine. It's covering. It's working where you 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: have to. You get to pay attention to other teams, 38 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: which is kind of fun. But then you realize how 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: much you really do like football when it's like you're 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: not on the line. 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 5: Yeah right right, when you can just enjoy the game 42 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: and not really be like, well, yeah, you don't have. 43 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: To sweat whether the third down conversion or fourth down conversions. Yeah. 44 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. It just reminds me of the day. Come. 45 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 5: The day will come when I'll retire from this and 46 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: I will be able to get back to sitting in 47 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 5: my lounger and watching some games and napping in between A. 48 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 6: Long way to go, Bro, I do have commercial free football. 49 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have all the ways to go, But but 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 5: that day will be glorying. 51 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: I never knew how much fun Red Zone was. Man, 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 3: you can what I can't. 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 5: I can't really get into because I want to see 54 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 5: the storyline of the game develop as the game interesting. 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: It's interesting just from the aspect of the action. Yeah, 56 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: you know, but I'm with you that I'm with you 57 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: on the storyline stuff. But when I watch Red Zone, 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: I get a headache because it happens so it's going 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: so fast. 60 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I find difficult. 61 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 7: I find difficulty in figuring out the p breaks and zone. 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: That's like, give me a break. 63 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 6: I need, I need, I need it erectly. 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 7: I try to get it out of the way in 65 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 7: the first half of that noon Slate because then for 66 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 7: about four and a half straight hours it's it's full 67 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 7: on action. 68 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 6: But no, it was really good. 69 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 7: It was some really good games yesterday too, yeah Slate, 70 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 7: and then three twenty five it was it was a 71 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 7: good day to be off. 72 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 6: I think I tweeted it out yesterday it was like, 73 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 6: this is a really good Sunday to be at the 74 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 6: Crow Yeah, and then. 75 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: The night game even ended up being intriguing just because 76 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 5: again the storylines and how the game developed. That was 77 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 5: a fun game to watch as well. So I enjoyed 78 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 5: some NFL football yesterday. Didn't enjoy college as much on 79 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: the weekend. But you know, it happens. You have a 80 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 5: rough weekend and you just kind of rebound. Congratulations to 81 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: the LSU Tigers. You guys are moving along. She'd be 82 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 5: fun this weekend. You got to in them coming up. 83 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, as you're starting to understand the Southeastern Conference 84 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: could be no fun. 85 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you have some Sundays on Saturdays like that. 86 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's days where you like, you think you're 87 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: like in good shape and then the next thing you know, 88 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: you're completely falling apart. I think that's the SEC in 89 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: general exactly. That's a great thing about college football too. 90 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: I think with the the actual all the transfers and 91 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: the nil stuff, and I think there's a lot more 92 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: of these matchs where teams are even there's no more, 93 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: there's there's halves and have nots. Don't get me wrong, 94 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: but the have nots are because of the transfer portals 95 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: have kind of made a little bit of a little 96 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: bit of a jump where they're very, very competitive in 97 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: a lot of these games. So college football has been 98 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: a lot of fun to watch this year. 99 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 5: It has, and I enjoyed it. 100 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: Even in a loss. 101 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 5: You still enjoyed the pageantry and the competition of college football. 102 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 3: I really do. I enjoy I did you enjoy that 103 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars fine from throwing bottles? 104 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 8: Hey? 105 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: Man, it got us the call, so hey, pay it up. 106 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: We got the money, man, Oh, I know you do. 107 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: It's just funny. It's kind of SEC rules. Yeah, you 108 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: take the goalpost down, they charge. It's it's kind of 109 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: the fine. That's what they always charge. It's always But 110 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: I was curious, you know, you mentioned with a reverse 111 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: call in a game, and I know we get to 112 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: this quick the NFL stuff, but I was trying to 113 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: think the last time I saw a reverse called during 114 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: the game, and I think it was the Detroit playoff 115 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: game against Dallas. Did they have an interference call that 116 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 3: that it was on? It was on one the linebackers 117 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 3: they got, they got they had a pass interference call 118 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 3: and it got reversed and it was in the playoff 119 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: game and it was the game that Romo drove down 120 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: and I think through the ball to Witting and I 121 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: think it was a game winning touchdown, but I was 122 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: trying to remember it was one of the linebackers that 123 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: got called for pass interference or defensive holding, and then 124 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: they reversed the call initially call in the field and 125 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: then they reversed, and then Dallas uh, I think it 126 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: was Damian Wilson. It might have been called for for 127 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: holding in the game and they reversed, and I was 128 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: trying to think, when's the last time I saw officials 129 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: completely flip a call after after the call was made. 130 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 7: That one was wild because when that first bottle was 131 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 7: thrown onto the field, Carson Beck and the Georgia offense 132 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 7: they were getting ready to write the snap like that 133 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 7: they would have stood if that didn't happen. 134 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 6: So I think I think the SEC said a. 135 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 7: Very bad precedent, and I wonder how they kind of 136 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 7: approached that this week and if they lay the hammer 137 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 7: down on Texas a little bit harder. 138 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's their max. They have a they have it. 139 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: I think it happened in twenty twenty one. They kind 140 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: of have a that's kind of their standard. Number when 141 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: you do something wrong, like the band plays the song 142 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: they're not supposed to play. It's two hundred and fiftys. 143 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 4: I've done that before. 144 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like they give you this amount, you know, like, yeah, 145 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: it's kind of crazy how they handle things in the SEC. 146 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 4: But I don't mind the reverse. 147 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 5: And I know it sounds that sounds like, okay, you're 148 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 5: a Texas guy. Honestly, in any game, I don't mind 149 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 5: a reversal if the call is right. 150 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: I'm a big believer in. 151 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: Have the eye in the sky that's watching all these 152 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 5: games like the rest of us and has the benefit 153 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: of seeing that replay and being like, who whoa, whoa, Yeah, guys, 154 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 5: we messed this one up. Let's get it right. Because 155 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 5: at the end of the day, I just wanted to 156 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 5: be right. I want the games to be called as 157 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: close to perfect as possible, right, And so I don't 158 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 5: mind if you after the fact decide, you know, that 159 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 5: was a bad cause pick up that flag, you know, 160 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 5: especially a play like that. That was so that was 161 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 5: such a big moment in the game. 162 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was telling the people that I was watching 163 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 7: the game with at the time. I was like, these 164 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 7: officials probably looked at it and said, Hey, we're gonna 165 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 7: have to answer to this anyway, we may as well 166 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 7: get the call right. 167 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 9: Right. 168 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 7: So, I as as weird as that was and as 169 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 7: probably not beneficial to Georgia, that was it was the 170 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 7: right call at the end of the day, But yeah, 171 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 7: it was. 172 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 6: It's fascinating. I don't think I've ever seen that. 173 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 10: Yeah. 174 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 5: I was texting back and forth with Patrick during the game, 175 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 5: and I think he even kind of agreed, Yeah, that's 176 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 5: probably the right call. Like he had a couple of 177 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 5: calls he didn't like, but I don't think he wasn't 178 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 5: arguing that one too much. 179 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 4: He was he was okay with that. All right, let's 180 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: jump in. Let's talk a little Cowboys football. 181 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: We're gonna start first today, I guess a lot of 182 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 5: our early part of our show. And by the way, 183 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 5: real quick, we're going to also take some calls in 184 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 5: the second and third segments of the show. So you 185 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 5: can call us at eight eight eight eight five five 186 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 5: two two ninety seven again eight eight eight eight five 187 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 5: five two two nine seven feel free good and light 188 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 5: up those phone lines. And we'll get to those calls 189 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 5: a little later in the show. But I think The 190 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 5: tenor of today's show is really about as as Mike 191 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: McCarthy says, the second trimester, what is Dallas going to 192 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 5: do now that they've completed the first trimester, They've had 193 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 5: a break, They've had a chance to absorb what's happened, 194 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: and now they have to move on and try to 195 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 5: learn from that and be better in the next trimester 196 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 5: of the season. That being said, let's start first with 197 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy, and he had some comments this morning about how. 198 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: They practice, and he was saying it was really I. 199 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 5: Think the point of it was that he thinks they 200 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 5: need to practice better, not necessarily harder. He says, you know, 201 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 5: their analytics tell them the team is practicing harder than 202 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 5: it has in the past. They just may not be 203 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 5: as crisp. They just may not be as detailed as 204 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 5: disciplined as maybe they need to be during practice. What 205 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: are your thoughts on that and maybe what that means 206 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 5: as far as the team's ability to play in the 207 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 5: way that they need to play. 208 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll say one thing, Mike McCarthy's a big morning person, 209 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 7: because man, he was. He was giving us all the 210 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 7: good stuff this morning in the nine am press conference. 211 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 7: But I had asked the question about practice because before 212 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 7: they went on the buy break, Dak Prescott was talking 213 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 7: about how guys are only showing up on Sundays, you 214 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 7: need to take the preparation during the week a little 215 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 7: bit more serious. And then McCarthy, like you said, had 216 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 7: said that guys were practicing hard, not necessarily well. So 217 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 7: I followed up on that and I was like, all 218 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 7: the evaluation that's come over the course of the last week. 219 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 7: At the bye week, he said he was here every day. 220 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 7: Did you guys take a look at practice and how 221 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 7: you guys are approaching that? Is there any tweaks to that? 222 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 7: And he said that they are going to be approaching 223 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 7: practice with a lot more group work. They're getting away 224 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 7: from the one on ones more two on two to 225 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 7: three on threes, and then on the nine on seven 226 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 7: stuff that we see during combination team periods that we 227 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 7: saw at training camp. They're going to ramp that up 228 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 7: a little bit more in the team period as well, 229 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 7: so focusing more on group work. And that had kind 230 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 7: of stood out from something earlier that he had said 231 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 7: about meeting work as well. They want guys in group 232 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 7: meetings less individual meetings. Because I guess I could see 233 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 7: it from his perspective being Okay, if we're having all 234 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 7: these individual meetings, then all the guys are not getting 235 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 7: the same message. So group meetings it allows everybody to 236 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 7: be under one cohesive umbrella as far as coaching points 237 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 7: and things of that nature. So maybe that's kind of 238 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 7: the approach that they're taking post bye week here. But 239 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 7: there was a lot of evaluation taken in the building 240 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 7: over the course of the last week, and he was 241 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 7: actually really complimentary of a lot of guys that had 242 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 7: been in the building every day in the last week 243 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 7: as well. 244 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: That's you never want to hear that. You never want well, 245 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you never want to hear that they're not practicing. Well. 246 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: You know, there's there's times when you know you you're 247 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: going to have a bad practice. You know, maybe somebody, 248 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: you know, maybe your team's just so beat up, you're 249 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: just not into it. You got back off a trip, 250 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: you know. I mean there's a lot of things going 251 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: on too because you know with and a lot of 252 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: it has to do too with the way you lose. 253 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: You know, if you're if you're practicing, and it's really 254 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: easy to practice when things are going good, you know, 255 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: but when you're when you're getting you know that right now, 256 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: this team's three and three and the three losses have 257 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: looked awful, you know, and and I think that, you know, 258 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: you think, wow, they're hey, a lot of injuries, they're 259 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 3: good to get it to this point and all that. 260 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 3: It's really not, you know. And then you add that 261 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: to you're getting beat up, and then you're not practicing well, 262 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: and now you start to lead to other conversations like, well, 263 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: why aren't we practicing well? You know what, what's what's 264 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: the issues there is? Is leading is leading? 265 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 9: Uh? 266 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 3: Not is leading to not practicing well? Is that is 267 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: what's causing you not to play well? I just man, 268 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: that to me, that's I just I don't like to 269 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: hear that. And you know, and I kind of feel 270 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: like they're looking for answers, you know, the answers that 271 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 3: I want to hear are you know, with Like to me, 272 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: I don't think it's always the scheme when it when 273 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: you're talking about what's going on with the defense a 274 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 3: little bit, I think they're physically just getting beat up, 275 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 3: you know, and whatever you have to do to rectify that, 276 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: that's where I would start to I mean I don't 277 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: think you could practice physicality like they you know, like 278 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: they did back in the day. The things I just 279 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: I don't know if things even by them talking about 280 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 3: it and doing talking about more group than this, I 281 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: don't know if it's necessarily going to help. I think 282 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: I think this team really is who they are when 283 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: it comes to how they play. When it comes to 284 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: playing defense, you know, I think they lack that. And 285 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: it's not toughness. They just don't have that ability to 286 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 3: take people on that play in a way that makes 287 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 3: that they use big personnel and blockers and stuff. They're 288 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: just not built that way. They're built to rush the passer. 289 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: And they just can't get anybody into a game where 290 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 3: they can just rush the passer. They got the Cleveland 291 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: Browns into it, But I don't know if anything practice 292 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 3: wise is going to make this any different than what 293 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: they really are. 294 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 5: Well, one thing he did say as an example was 295 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: something that we've talked about a lot on this show. 296 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 5: He said, you start two rookie offensive lineman week one. 297 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 5: They've been stunting and gaming us since we got off 298 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 5: the bus. We've been practicing, but not enough. And I 299 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 5: think that is one area that if you're not doing 300 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 5: enough of that type of tandem work, group work, if 301 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: you're doing spending most of your time in one on 302 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: ones when you got offensive line versus defensive line, maybe 303 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: you're not going to be as well prepared for handling 304 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 5: some of those games, some of those stunts when you 305 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 5: have so many guys changing in and out of the 306 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 5: offensive line, plus you in the inexperience of the offensive line. 307 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: Do you think that's an area that more group work 308 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: could actually make a difference. 309 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: Well, they practice in team and they you know, if 310 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: you're playing against somebody that moves the front. I mean, 311 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: when we break down the opponent, we always talk about, oh, 312 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: there's a twist front, and what are the things When 313 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: we talk about BB, we always say, and this has 314 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: gone back from two three weeks ago, he doesn't handle 315 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: the twist front. And now all of a sudden, everybody's like, oh, 316 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: we need more work on the twist front. Why weren't 317 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: you working on twist front than in week two, week 318 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: three when teams were actually doing that. You know, I'm 319 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: sitter watching the tape and I'm like, the one problem 320 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: that Bib has is he gets too involved with pushing 321 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: a guy we talked about these these linemen that push 322 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: a that push a guy down and then they go 323 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: to the next level. And we said this about bb Hey, 324 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: he gets too involved, he gets too involved, he gets 325 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 3: too involved. Well, here we are in week seven, and 326 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 3: now we're talking about it as we're seeing more of that. 327 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: It's something that needed to be done, you know, three 328 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 3: weeks ago, because I mean, might me personally, I saw 329 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: it three weeks ago. If you asked me, what was 330 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: one problem with Cooper Bebe. He doesn't handle the twist 331 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: stunts very well, you know. And now all of a sudden, 332 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, we're seeing a lot more twist fronts. Yeah, 333 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: because you didn't work on it three weeks ago, and yeah, 334 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: and you know, and now it's like and you wonder, 335 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: how like when he when they when they have pressure, 336 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: when they have a pressure, it's usually something with moving 337 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: the front, and so you would think, like why not 338 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 3: get ahead of that and say, hey, listen, our sinners 339 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: are rookie. We gotta you know, we've got to work 340 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: on him not going down inside and taking those guys 341 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: because he's leaving a gap, He's leaving a big area 342 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 3: inside there. So this is something to me that when 343 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: you're not practicing, Well, I understand it, because three weeks 344 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: ago you could have got that right. It couldn't you know, 345 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: you could take Teams are going to do things to 346 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: you when you're not very good at it. You know, 347 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: watch what's gonna happen this week? Even though they don't 348 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: have Brandon Ayuk and all that Detroit. Detroit is the 349 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: number one in the league for running in breaking routes. 350 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: What do you think San Francisco is going to do 351 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: to you? You didn't cover one in breaking route the 352 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: other day? Not one. They are going to sit there 353 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: and say, wow, this team camp safeties, linebackers. You know, 354 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: they don't they don't play, they don't do this. But 355 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: this is something that you've seen that you've seen with 356 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: this team, and now they're talking about it in the 357 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: well we need to work on Well, why wudn't you 358 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: work on it three weeks ago when it when it 359 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: looked like it was going to be an issue. That's 360 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: the thing that drives me nuts. 361 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, I in my bye week evaluation of everything, I 362 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 7: look at the middle of this defense, the spine of 363 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 7: this defense as the core is the core problem of 364 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 7: all the issues that are happening. I think if you 365 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 7: had a defensive tackle that was playing up to a 366 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 7: first round caliber selection, and then you had better safety 367 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 7: play on the back end. I think the middle has 368 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 7: been fine. Was talking about the linebackers, but if you 369 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 7: had those two positions just playing just a notch better, 370 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 7: I think you're a four and two or even a 371 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 7: five and one team at this point. I there's there's 372 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 7: been multiple multiple games, so for multiple games last year 373 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 7: with the middle of that defense was just getting exposed. 374 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 6: And I think I'm probably. 375 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 7: I had to take on some ownership in some sense 376 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 7: because I thought it was an issue last year of 377 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 7: just not having enough linebackers. I thought it was, you know, 378 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 7: a linebacker depth problem, and they fixed that, and I 379 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 7: think that's where all my confidence kind of stemmed from 380 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 7: coming out of training camp, is like, I think this 381 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 7: defense is going to be pretty good because the biggest 382 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 7: problem they had last year has been solved, and it's 383 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 7: the linebacker depth. But they lost at that the defensive 384 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 7: tackle position and didn't anticipate the safeties playing as poorly 385 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 7: as I have been earlier early in this season. So 386 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 7: if those two positions can get it figured out, then 387 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 7: I believe that they can figure out some of these issues, and. 388 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 6: That could be a practice thing too. 389 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, you get those guys more involved in team settings 390 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 7: as well, because you need Mazzie Smith taking on those 391 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 7: doubles out here. You need Mozzi Smith taking on multiple 392 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 7: bodies so that he understands that that's going to be 393 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 7: the case whenever they're trying to blow him off the 394 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 7: line on Sunday, whether it's Jordan Mason, Christian McCaffrey, or whoever. 395 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 7: So I could team more team periods benefit this team overall, absolutely, 396 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 7: but it would have to be with the right application. 397 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. See the team period two is also when you 398 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: watch the offense work and I talked about this last week. 399 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: Is like I guarantee you they ran that that that 400 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: route they got intercepted with lamb when Branch was sinking. 401 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: I guarantee you I told you this. They ran this 402 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: thing three times in practice and it's like they kept 403 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: telling the corner Okay, read it, read the read the 404 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: read the underneath, read the underneath, and Dak's throwing it. 405 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 3: Reading the underneath, read the underneath. And then you get 406 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: a guy that's like a real NFL football player that like, huh, 407 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: not throwing that route short? What's coming out behind me? 408 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 3: You know? And then that and then I'm just gonna sink. 409 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 10: You know. 410 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: That's that's where you get in trouble. You practice stuff 411 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 3: and you're thinking, like the quarterback might be thinking, well, 412 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: this throw in practice was open all week this throw, 413 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: that's the throw, that's where I need to go, and 414 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: then it doesn't. You're going, what happened there? Well, all 415 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: week long, you told the quarterback that guy's gonna that 416 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 3: guy's gonna bite on the crossing route. He's not. He doesn't, 417 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: you know, he doesn't. He's not gonna he's not gonna sink. Well, 418 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 3: what he does, he sinks. So sometimes you the way 419 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: you practice and the way you prep and the way 420 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: you show the scout team looks and stuff can really 421 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: f you up in these games. You know, how how 422 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: you practice, it's not just you know, it's it's a 423 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 3: mental side of it too, your scout team. You know, Hey, 424 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: that's what made the Patriots so good when they had 425 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: back in the day with Ernie Adams and stuff, and 426 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: they're running and running a defense like in the Super Bowl, 427 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 3: they're running a defense. You know, here, the here, the 428 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 3: Seahawks are going to try and throw the inside, and 429 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: they ran a defense and Ernie Adams and then worked 430 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: on that they saw like three years ago before that. 431 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: They ran this route. This is what they did, and 432 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: they practice that. That's the kind of stuff. You know, 433 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: when you're putting your scout team together, your preparation for 434 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: the game, that's where that's where you win games, when 435 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: you go back and you say, hey, this is you know, 436 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: this is we needed to prep And I think that's 437 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 3: the physical side of it seems fine. The getting the 438 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: mental side or the preparation of what they're seeing might 439 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: be off in this games. 440 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna take our first break. 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Yeah, Pete Morelli, twenty fifteen. 509 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 4: That was the call that was picked up you were 510 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 4: talking about. 511 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a call. It was Anthony Hitchins, Yeah 512 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 3: on Brandon Pedigrew. 513 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: Good memory, right, You said a linebacker. 514 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was one of those linebackers. It 515 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: was Hitchins. Good, it was Pete Morelli. They actually really 516 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: quick the back Jorge through his flag for defensive pass interference. 517 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: Morelli Toll, Todd Archer. We got information from another official 518 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: from a different angle. He thought the contact was minimal 519 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: and didn't warrant pass interference. He thought it was face guarding. 520 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: So that's kind of where that one went. So anyway, like. 521 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 5: I said, I got no problems with the pick. Pick 522 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: up the flag. If it's wrong, man, pick up the flag. 523 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: Call face starting is a penalty in college football, but 524 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: not in the NFL. 525 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 4: YEP. 526 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 5: All right, let's jump back in over the I guess 527 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 5: it was maybe Thursday or Friday of last week. I 528 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 5: think it was Friday maybe when Troy Aikman had the comments. 529 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 5: He was on the ticket here in Dallas, and his 530 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: comments were, I think the routes are terrible, talking about 531 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 5: the wide receiver group. I think they run terrible routes, 532 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 5: and I've thought that beyond this year. I think CD 533 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 5: has got to improve in his route running. As a quarterback, 534 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 5: if you're not certain where guys are going to be consistently, 535 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 5: it's hard to play the position. That's what I see. 536 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 5: I see guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage. 537 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: Sometimes they run usually if they don't usually if they do, 538 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 5: it's because they're anticipating they're going to get the football 539 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 5: on that play. But if they're not, they don't, and 540 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 5: it all ties together. I'm not impressed with that part 541 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 5: of it now. Mike McCarthy did respond to that this 542 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: morning in the press conference, he was asked about those comments. 543 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: His response was, they don't carry any weight with me 544 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: because I watch all the tape, I get to go 545 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 5: to the meetings, I'm in practice, I'm part of the games, 546 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 5: so I have a clear understanding of what and where 547 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 5: Troy's statement In particular, I don't agree with the word selection. 548 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 5: There is definitely need for improvement in every position, not 549 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 5: just one position that he commented on. You agree with 550 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 5: Troy's comments based on the study that you guys have 551 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 5: done in the film and looking at these wide receivers. 552 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 6: I do. Personally, I think he hit it on the nod. 553 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 6: I think with. 554 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 7: The disconnection that we've seen between DAK and CD, I 555 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 7: don't think one hundred percent of that can be attributed 556 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 7: to there not being enough time to establish that connection. 557 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 7: I think at the end of the day, there is 558 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 7: a scheme in place that makes this offense very predictable. 559 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 7: And I think it starts with the route running. These 560 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 7: guys they run short routes across the field, and it's 561 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 7: easy to throw off the rhythm of those guys. And 562 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 7: we saw that against Detroit, where these linebackers and these 563 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 7: dbs they were able to just put a little enough 564 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 7: contact on them and it disrupted the entire route because 565 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 7: they don't really have anything complay that goes into their 566 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 7: route schemes to where they can bounce off of that 567 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 7: and make something happen from it. 568 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: So I think Eightman was right. 569 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 7: And then McCarthy, he's gonna defend his guys, so I mean, 570 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 7: he's not gonna sit there and say, yeah, he was right, 571 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 7: whether he believes it or not. But I think at 572 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 7: the end of the day, there does have to be 573 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 7: a little bit more intention put on making these routes 574 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 7: more complex. I mean, one of the biggest things I 575 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 7: took away from watching Football Day yesterday is watching Detroit, 576 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 7: watching green Bay, watching Houston. These guys, these are complex 577 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 7: offensive schemes. These guys, they they know how to scheme 578 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 7: these guys open and uh, it just kind of reminded 579 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 7: me of how the Cowboys are not necessarily there, they 580 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 7: they got there at a certain point last year. I think, uh, down, down, 581 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 7: down the stretch. But I think all in all, there 582 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 7: needs to be more intention put in that area. 583 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 3: I like what you said, and I respect the heck 584 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 3: out of Troit. I think you have a team that 585 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: doesn't have really great route runners. 586 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 6: That's probably a product as well. 587 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 3: I don't think that when you when the route running. 588 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: I think when you put Ceedee Lamb at Oklahoma was 589 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 3: a player. When you put him on the move, that's 590 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 3: when he throvened. But if you ask Ceedee Lamb to 591 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: run precise routes, that doesn't always happen. Doesn't always happen 592 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 3: with Tolbert the guy that has the best, but the 593 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 3: best route runner you ever had here, and in my 594 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: opinion was Amari Cooper. When you watch it, how it was, 595 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: it was explode, plant break, settle, explode. You know, he 596 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 3: had an idea for how to set a defensive back up. 597 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: I don't think Dallas has maybe Brandon Cooks. Maybe Brandon Cooks, 598 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: but he is smaller, he's quicker these guys, and. 599 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: They don't really use him like that. And then a 600 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: lot of was that the routes they ask him to 601 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: run that was part of that was part. 602 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 7: Of what I was about to come back running comeback 603 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 7: routes outside the name eighty. 604 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: Two percent And I looked this up. Eighty two percent 605 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,159 Speaker 3: of Dallas's routes that they had the most success on. 606 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: Is the hitch that doesn't require any real route running there? 607 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: Does it sounds like it does, It doesn't. I mean, 608 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: it's very it's very simplistic, you know that. But if 609 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: you look at Dak, fifty two percent of his passes 610 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: on crosses and ends are completed fifty so just half 611 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: of those. But when you throw those routes inside, are 612 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: guys really running? 613 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 10: Now? 614 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 3: Those guys running those routes with any kind of you know, 615 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That's why you guy like Cooks Cooper, 616 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 3: those kinds of guys. Those are route runners. You watch, 617 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: you watch some guys around the league, and you watch 618 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 3: their ability to get off the line, to explode, come 619 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 3: to come to balance, boom inside. I mean, one of 620 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 3: one of my favorite highlights of a Murray Cooper was 621 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 3: on a throw against the Giants where he's on in 622 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: the in the he's isolated to the left side and 623 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 3: he walks off the line and now he's got the 624 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 3: dB like, whoa, what's this guy doing? Walk walk bam inside. 625 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 10: You know. 626 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: I mean, hey, it's like I'm setting you up. Yeah, 627 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 3: I'm not letting you know where. I don't think Dallas 628 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: has anybody that does that. I don't think Dallas has 629 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 3: any type of guy that if you asked him to. 630 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: That's why this team leads the league in tight window catches, 631 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: tight window throws. They don't separate. It's the only time 632 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: they don't run routes in order to separate, you know, 633 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: and that and that's that's your that's that's talent. I mean, 634 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: I say it's talent, but that's that's how you're made up. 635 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 3: You look at you look downfield players, high point players, 636 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 3: you know, traffic players. Sure, but when you when you 637 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: said go run a route to separate, to get open, 638 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: who you got. 639 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 4: So let me ask you this. 640 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 5: It's obvious that they were able to last year, in 641 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 5: the second half of the year get a lot out 642 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 5: of this receiving core because this offense was clicking. And 643 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 5: obviously those are seat those are some of the same 644 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 5: receivers that weren't able to run great. 645 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: Routes back then. If if if that's just who they are. 646 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 5: What was the difference last year to this year as 647 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 5: far as they're their abilities to make the offense. 648 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 3: I have no idea. It might have been opponents you 649 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 3: were playing though, too, you know in coverage. I mean, 650 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 3: I need to go back and look at that. I 651 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: just know right now when I watch this team play, 652 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: I don't I just don't see. And I have the 653 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 3: utmost respect for people who evaluate this and trade men 654 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: and guys like that, gals that evaluate it too, I 655 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: have utmost respect. I just don't see a group and 656 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: I need to go back and look at somebody. Okay, 657 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: what routes do they having success on? Like I said, 658 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 3: they're having success on the hitches and things like that. 659 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 3: The incut routes. Incut routes to me are the routes 660 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 3: that you have to be able to go up and 661 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 3: then break and then have that separation. If you're at 662 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: fifty percent throwing those routes, it's not very good. I mean, 663 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: we watched Detroit. You mentioned Detroit. They punish you on 664 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: that stuff. 665 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 7: I'd be curious to know what the slant numbers of 666 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 7: CD last year were because of those one hundred and 667 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 7: thirty five receptions he had last year. It probably feels 668 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 7: like fifty of them were in breaking slants. It was 669 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 7: him lining up in the slot outside, didn't matter, three 670 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 7: steps out and then break in and that's and Dak 671 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 7: was putting it on the numbers. But I think that's 672 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 7: easy to identify, it's easy to defend, especially if you're 673 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 7: expecting it many times. And I think these guys are 674 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: just putting a little bit more physicality on them in 675 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 7: coverage and it's throwing off the timing because what you've 676 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 7: we've talked about, or Mike McCarthy has talked about trying 677 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 7: to operate under that two point three threshold from snap 678 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 7: to throw. Well, if you're throwing off these receivers with 679 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 7: physicality and that two point three, they're not going to 680 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 7: get it off in that two point three. That means 681 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 7: this offense is operating outside of their structure. So I 682 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 7: think that's I think that's more of a product of 683 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 7: what we've seen so far. And then also Cooks not 684 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 7: being at one hundred percent health, and then he's been 685 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 7: out these last couple of games. The only time you 686 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 7: have seen north to south action in this offense is 687 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 7: throwing a jump ball. 688 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 6: It's like Okay, it's Holbert's down there. 689 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 7: Let's see, let's go grab one kid, and it's it's yeah, 690 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 7: you know, it's just it's it's it's how you want 691 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 7: to operate a passing offense. And it's it's interesting too 692 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 7: because I think I think McCarthy can be better as 693 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 7: far as scheming these open because we've seen it. 694 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 6: We've seen it the last couple of years. And in 695 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 6: that sense, so. 696 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 7: Do they need a guy that can't separate, like if 697 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 7: they were to go draft one next year, Absolutely they 698 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 7: need a guy that can separate, and that's unquestioned. But 699 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 7: I also think there's a little bit on the play 700 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 7: caller to scheme these guys open a little bit better. 701 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 5: Real quick, before I break, we got a phone call 702 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 5: from Anthony in New Jersey. He wants to talk about 703 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 5: the wide receiver route running. 704 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 10: What's up, Anthony, Hey, guys, how you doing good? 705 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: Are you? 706 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 10: Long time? Long time listening to you? Guys? Are great? 707 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 10: Thank you, Brian, you like every time you like educate 708 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 10: me on this game and I and I just want 709 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 10: to thank you for it because I've been listening to 710 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 10: you for years. It's just that, Yeah, Mike, Mike, my 711 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 10: question is is the same thing happened last year. These 712 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 10: like the season starts, they starts off slow, then they 713 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 10: go into the buy and then they come out of 714 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 10: the buy and they come out like world beaters, and 715 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 10: it's it's kind of happening this year, Like what are 716 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 10: these guys doing wrong that I don't understand? Like what 717 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 10: are they doing that they that they're getting knocked off 718 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 10: routes or they're not or like Troy Aikman said, they're 719 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 10: lazy off the line of scrimmage. And thanks guys, and 720 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 10: I'll take your comments both there. 721 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: All right, thanks for the call. 722 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we'll find out this weekend, he says. 723 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 5: He looks like that's how it's playing out this I 724 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 5: don't know. We're gonna see, Like they played San Francisco 725 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 5: last year before the bye, they're coming out of buy 726 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 5: this week having to go to San Francisco. We will 727 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 5: see if they're able to create some of that same 728 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 5: magic that they were able to create last year coming 729 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 5: off the by going it coming out of this buy. 730 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 7: This year's version of that San Francisco game last year 731 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 7: just happened against Detroit. So I mean, there's gonna have 732 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 7: to be a lot of evaluation out of that game 733 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 7: to try and play. But I would say the biggest 734 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 7: difference that I saw last year, Mike McCarthy says, he 735 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 7: splits up the season in trimesters, and at the end 736 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 7: of the first trimester, which is at the end of 737 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 7: the first six games, they do a big evaluation period. 738 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 7: That's what went into this by week last this last week. 739 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 7: What worked last year was just integrating pre stat motion. 740 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: Which they seem to go back to not doing it. 741 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 6: Are not complex, That's what's so. 742 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: What if I told you, if I told you that 743 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 3: their yards per play is better without motion than with. 744 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 6: Motion this year specifically, yeah, I still want to see 745 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 6: it more. 746 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 3: What if I told you the Green Bay Packers yards 747 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: per play is better without motion than with motion. 748 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 6: That's completely different. Separate if I told you your receivers 749 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 6: that can get open. 750 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: What if I told you the San Francisco forty nine 751 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: ers h yards per play is better without motion than 752 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 3: with motion. 753 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 6: Do you think this team would be better with motion? 754 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: Though? 755 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 7: Great, just because it's. 756 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 3: An argument, it's it's an arg. Oh, I was dying 757 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: on your hill too. I went up and looked at 758 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: this stuff, and you look at the teams that are 759 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 3: heavy that are heavy motion teams, their yards per play 760 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 3: without motion in a lot of cases is better than 761 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 3: with it. Like the Green Bay Packers. The delta between 762 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: their their motion and their non motion is staggering. 763 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 5: But let me ask you this could could that also 764 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 5: be a situation where because there is motion in their offense, 765 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 5: they're able to still create those opportunities when there's not 766 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 5: motion that they can still get great plays out of 767 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 5: not running. 768 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 3: But they got great players. 769 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: But the point, But the point is they still run 770 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 4: a lot of motion. Those teams use a lot of motions, 771 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 4: but their yards per play fair. 772 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 5: But I'm saying no, I don't think you can just 773 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 5: assume that that means that the motion isn't important. 774 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 4: Those teams run a lot of motion. 775 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 5: And so the question becomes is their offense just overall 776 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 5: more efficient because. 777 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 3: They've had more more That's what I would I think 778 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: their offense is just efficient because of the quarterback, the line, 779 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 3: and the and the and the receivers. That's where I 780 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: kind of feel like it is play caller, quarterback, you 781 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 3: know these teams that have that ability to make plays 782 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,760 Speaker 3: when they don't have to use motion. I I trust 783 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 3: me I want to see motion. But if you it's 784 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: it's surprising to look at the teams that lead the 785 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 3: league in motion, but then look at yards per play 786 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: without motion, and you're like going what you would figure 787 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 3: like Green Bay big motion team. Yep, big motion team, 788 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 3: but much better when they play stationary than than they 789 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 3: do with most or their yards per play would tell 790 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: you that when they don't run motion, that their yards 791 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 3: they might average seven point five yards without motion and 792 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: six point five with motion. 793 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 7: The thing that I think about with that's a very 794 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 7: interesting point that you bring up, Brian, But the thing 795 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 7: I think about with that is this team doesn't happen. 796 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's end all be all. That's 797 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 798 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 7: This team doesn't have a problem with sustaining drives, with 799 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 7: moving down the field. It's about finishing the drives and 800 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 7: finding the big play. And I think if they integrated 801 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 7: more motion into this offense, they could start finding those 802 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 7: big plays a little bit more, both in the run 803 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 7: game in in the past game. So I'd be curious 804 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 7: to know what those numbers stand up against. Whenever you're 805 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 7: looking at big play opportunities, and I think if you 806 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 7: could just find some big plays for this offense. You 807 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 7: can make things work. The only north to south big 808 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 7: play that this team has really found this year was 809 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 7: that ball on the left sideline to CD and that 810 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 7: was still thrown with two guys in the area, and 811 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 7: see he was able to kind of come off of 812 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 7: it and make. 813 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 6: A fifty five yard touchdown off of it. 814 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 815 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 6: Other than that, it's been a lot of east to 816 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 6: west type action. 817 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 3: Packers success And just trust me, I love motion. I 818 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 3: want to you if your receivers aren't good route runners, 819 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 3: you better put him in motion. Okay, if they can't 820 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 3: win off the line, or. 821 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 5: If you have one guy who's clearly better than everybody else, Yeah, 822 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 5: and you don't have a lot else, yeah, you probably 823 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 5: need to put him in motion. 824 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: Green Bays Green Bays play success. Play success with no 825 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 3: motion is right at fifty five percent their Their play 826 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 3: with motion success is right at thirty nine percent. So 827 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: you have thirty nine percent motion success and with no 828 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 3: motion they're at fifty three percent their play success. 829 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 4: Here's what I will tell you. 830 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,959 Speaker 5: Just I think it was two to three weeks ago 831 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 5: I heard Luke Keikley, who's a respect Oh no. 832 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,439 Speaker 4: I'm a linebacker. No, I know, but I'm just saying 833 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 4: what he said. 834 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 5: And he was asked the question how much does motion 835 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 5: affect the defense, and he was like, that is the 836 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 5: single thing for a defense that makes playing defense substantially 837 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 5: harder because the moment you think you know what's gonna happen, 838 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 5: because you gotta look, everything can change and you have 839 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 5: to then adjust on the fly. And everybody on the 840 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 5: defense has to have the same thought when they see 841 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 5: the motion of what's adjusting on the fly. And so 842 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 5: he said, he says, it doesn't mean it's insurmountable, he said, 843 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 5: good teams figure it out, good defenses figure it out, 844 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 5: he said, but it is a part of playing defense. 845 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 4: That complicates things. 846 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 5: And so when you're playing a team that uses a 847 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 5: lot of motion, your preparation has to be on point. 848 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 3: You have to. 849 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 5: Prepare a lot harder, a lot better to play those 850 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 5: types of offenses. And maybe that's just the part of it. Again, 851 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 5: it's not saying it's stand all, be all. It's saying 852 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 5: it just complicates things. It gives you a little bit 853 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 5: more of an edge going into that game than if 854 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 5: you're not using motion, where defense can just see the 855 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 5: look right and then adjust to it. 856 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 6: It makes it more unpredictable. Yes, offense unfortunately suffers from no. 857 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 3: No, it's it's it's the scheme. It's clearly the scheme here. 858 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 3: Because it's funny because, like I say, I look at 859 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 3: this to trait no motion yard per play seven point 860 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 3: four motion six point three. They're averaging one point one 861 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 3: yard more of play without motion than they are with motion. 862 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 3: But you look at the Lions the way they're just 863 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 3: their ability to run the football and their ability to 864 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 3: hit those crossing routes, it's just amazing. I mean to me, 865 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 3: it's it's just it's funny these teams because I always 866 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 3: thought I thought motion was ind all be all. I 867 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: really really did. But then I'm starting to look at 868 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 3: these teams that I respect their offense, and I'm going, man, 869 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 3: maybe it's just they got better players. 870 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 7: Well how maybe how often are the big play percentages 871 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 7: happening within the motion? That's that was my question in 872 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 7: response to this, because I don't think the Cowboys have 873 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 7: problems sustaining drives. They can get the yards per play. 874 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 7: It's about finding the big play. And I think with 875 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 7: these teams that are integrating motion, whenever they integrate heavy motion. 876 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 7: It's it's trying to scheme up the big play. So 877 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 7: either they take the shot and they don't get it, 878 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 7: or they take the shot and they do get it. 879 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 7: I would be curious to know what the percentage looks 880 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 7: like as far as how often motion is being successfully run, 881 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 7: because I think that kind of takes away from the yards. 882 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 5: Per playing and success like run with bigger plays, which 883 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 5: is right, exactly, like the bigger plays come from that 884 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 5: more frequently, but the percentage may be less. 885 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 4: Exactly, you just got a bigger play exactly. 886 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just funny that to me. Like I said 887 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 3: that that Green Bay is the difference is fourteen percent 888 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: between between their successful plays and they're not successful plays 889 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 3: with and without motion. 890 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 5: All Right, we're gonna take a quick break. We're gonna 891 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 5: come back, and I have one question for you guys 892 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 5: about the NFC East, particularly about the Giants and the 893 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 5: Washington Commanders. We'll talk about that when we come Backdallas 894 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 5: Cowboys dot Com Radio. 895 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: If you can't be at the stadium, there's no better 896 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 2: way to watch your Cowboys then on an LG. 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And as I'm watching the games, 962 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 5: I'm looking at Saquon like, man, this guy is he's 963 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 5: a beast. I don't know if he's this looks like 964 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 5: prime Saquon Barkley, and then you look at the commanders 965 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 5: and although he got hurt yesterday, you still look at 966 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 5: what Jayden Daniels is being able to do this year, 967 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 5: particularly what he's doing on the ground in addition to 968 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 5: the passes he's made, but what he's doing on the ground, 969 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 5: And I thought to myself, which one would be scarier 970 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 5: for a Dallas defense that is having a hard time 971 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 5: being able to consistently stop the run, having a deal 972 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 5: with Sakuon Barkley who runs it his way, versus Jayden 973 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 5: Daniels as a quarterback who runs it a little differently 974 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 5: but still gets big time results. 975 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 4: What do you guys think? 976 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 6: I think they're both scary. 977 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 7: But I think Saquan if he's running like he did yesterday, 978 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 7: there's not many teams in the NFL. It could be 979 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 7: that it takes it takes the pressure off of the 980 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 7: passing offense. 981 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 3: That's what I'd say, Man, what Jalen Hurts will make 982 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 3: mistakes exactly the kid in the kid in Washington. He 983 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 3: ain't gonna make mistakes. He protects the football, he scrambles around, 984 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 3: he'll throw it away. He's deadly accurate. You know, if 985 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 3: you if you take away say, philadelphiare running the ball 986 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 3: and make Jalen Hurts. We've seen Jalen Hurts mess up 987 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: games at the end, throw interceptions. You know, Barkley scares 988 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 3: me far worse than what the guy does that guy 989 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 3: at the commanders that that oc they're Kingsbury. He's resuscitated 990 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 3: his career. He's figured out how to run the football 991 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 3: with his scheme. He never he never was able to 992 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 3: run the football great with his skin point, and now 993 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 3: he's now he's kind of figured it out because he's 994 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 3: got a quarterback that knows how to do it, you know. 995 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 3: And the quarterback is he's thin and all that, and 996 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 3: everybody's like, oh, he's frail, he's no a kid knows 997 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 3: how to protect himself. Yeah, he'll take some hits, but 998 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 3: he'll get out of bounds, get down. He does what 999 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 3: he has to do. But Barkley running the ball takes 1000 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts out of the game. And that's if you're 1001 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 3: playing the Eagles, you're kind of counting on him throwing 1002 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 3: an interception or two. 1003 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 5: And that was yesterday without their starting left tackle, who's 1004 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 5: a really good player. Yeah, and he's he's out now 1005 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 5: on the ir so he's gonna miss at least four 1006 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 5: weeks three moreks. So I think that's that was a 1007 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,919 Speaker 5: that that to me was as impressive as anything else 1008 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 5: that they did that without their starting left tackle. 1009 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, real quick, can I tell you something? 1010 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 4: Sure? 1011 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 3: Motion touchdowns? Jets four, the Browns three, Cowboys three, pay 1012 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 3: Broncos three. Those are the bottom four teams. What do 1013 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: we always know about? What do we know about Aaron Rodgers? 1014 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 4: Hey eighth? 1015 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 3: Where did this coach come from? Hates motion yet? 1016 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 5: And tell tell us the up end of that. You 1017 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 5: mentioned that before. The teams that are that are at 1018 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 5: the top of the league, what are they getting? 1019 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 3: Eighteen? 1020 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 10: Yeah? 1021 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 3: Eighteen? Yeah, yeah, that's the Lions. Uh, you're the forty 1022 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 3: nine ers who you're about to play. They have thirteen 1023 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 3: motion touchdowns, but the top the top teams in the 1024 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 3: league have eight eighteen. That would be the Bills at eighteen, 1025 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 3: the Lions at eighteen, the Packers at eighteen, how about 1026 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 3: the Saints sixteen? 1027 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: They started us so hot and then it just kind 1028 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 4: of part. It all tells a part on them all. 1029 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 5: I appreciate you guys. You want to be back tomorrow. 1030 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 5: Brian's gonna have some some I think we're gonna go 1031 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,439 Speaker 5: on the. 1032 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 3: More mind talk. 1033 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 5: Brian brought us tomorrow and uh and then Wednesday, we'll 1034 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 5: get you guys ready. We'll start looking forward to the 1035 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 5: next game Cowboys versus forty nine Ers. Till then, for 1036 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 5: Nick Harris, Brian brought us. I'm Derek Eagleton. 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