WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Monday Hour Four 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:14.280 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:15.760 Washington Broadcast Center. 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.320 Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:28.480 Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty Strong. Welcome 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.280 to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. We're 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:33.920 off all week long. 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One of the best examples in 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:18.480 my lifetime being gay marriage. So thoroughly drubbed by the 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.920 idea of gay marriage, Republicans just ceased fighting it at 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.039 all when it became clear that the country had decided 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.000 that that's what they want, and so that then that 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.360 argument was over and it just doesn't exist anymore. And 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.319 I'm hoping that maybe that has happened, or we're close 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.840 to it happening with the whole identity politics thing that 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.720 took off in the mid nineties and has been running 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:44.240 this country for a long time. And maybe maybe because 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.360 there's a lot of people on the left saying this 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:50.200 is not working for us, starting with well, not starting 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.600 with a whole bunch of different people have said it, well, 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.880 this isn't it. James Carvel's he ran Clinton's campaign, really 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.680 pre identity politics taking hold of the Democratic Party way 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.400 back in the early nineties. But this is what James 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.040 Carvel has to say about the current state. 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:08.440 Of things with reference to exotic positions. Was our identity politics? 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.040 If you read the article in your Times, I said, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.639 I give Harris credit, she does not bring this up. 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.560 But this stuff is like smoke on your clothes of 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:18.440 a fireplace. 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:20.800 You can't wash it off. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.840 And those ideas, well, it's true, they never said it. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.600 You know how many millions of dollars that the Republicans 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.760 ran on anti identity politics positions that people had taken 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.480 in a Democratic party in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.640 toancy is a lot because you see it politics the 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:43.200 other side gets to play, and you've got to understand 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:46.880 that it's going to take another four years before we 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.040 wash the stench of this off of our. 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:53.040 Clothes, at least, so identity to politics being your politics 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.840 are all about your immutable things, like your skin color, 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.160 whether you man or woman, what you know, your hispani 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.440 or white or black or all those kind of things 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.600 are identity politics your politics. 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:06.600 But your place in the world. Are you a good 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.960 person or a bad person? Can you work here or not? 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.519 That's all about your immutable characteristics. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.839 Sam Harris, who is a lefty, super smart guy, best known, 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.280 I guess for being announce spoken atheist. But anyway, he 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.400 wrote in sub stack yesterday, I think there are some 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:25.960 lessons that the Democrats really must absorb for what is 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.880 undeniably a total political defeat. They simply must recognize that 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:33.959 several planks of their platform are thoroughly rotten. Identity politics 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.240 is over. No one wants it. Latinos and Blacks don't 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.000 even want it, as witnessed by the fact that they 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.680 moved to Trump and record numbers. Trump got a majority 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.320 of Latino men nationwide, and some kind He's got a 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.120 majority of Latino men and women, even with all that 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.520 he has said about immigrants from Latin America over the years, 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.880 things like they're poisoning the blood of our people. A 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.560 comedian called Puerto Rico a pilot garbage at a Trump rally, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.120 and the entire Democratic machine, all of the liberal media 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:01.120 seized upon it as though a nuclear It just vaporized 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.600 in an American city, and nobody cared. 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.160 Because its practically the closing argument of the campaign, right 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.120 that that will be looked back on them as a mistake. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.880 The numbers Puerto Rican voters moved strongly toward Trump in 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:18.200 a number of different strongholds in Florida. 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.880 Because the point is, and then I'll get back to 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.800 this Sam Harris thing is they cared more about what 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.560 my rent is, what my wages are, how good my 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:28.479 school is for my kid, rather than comments about my 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.960 skin color, race. 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:34.320 Gender, whatever, what particular Caribbean island i'm from. 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.359 Right, there's one species of identity politics that had an 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.000 enormous effect on this election, and most Democrats don't seem 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.320 to realize it. Around half a percent of American adults 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.520 identify as transgender or non binary. That's one in two 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.480 hundred people, and yet the activism around the identity has 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:52.160 drained our politics for as long as Trump has been 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:54.600 in politics. One lesson that I would be quick to 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:57.240 draw from this election is that Americans aren't really fond 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.880 of seeing biological men punch women in the face of 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.960 the Olympics. And if that sounds like transphobia to you, 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.320 you're the problem. Political equality, which should we should want 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.839 for everyone, does not mean that trans women are women. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.400 When Sam Harris is writing that, I gotta believe that 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:13.600 that issue is done. 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.400 Yeah, I gotta believe there are people like Sam and 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.400 the many many others who are coming out of the 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.279 woodwork Bill Maher among others that have been on the 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.359 left and have hesitated at least somewhat to criticize the 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:29.160 excesses of their ideological brothers and sisters. But they've been 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.120 chafing because they know how insane it is, you know. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.600 To get back to Carville's point real quickly, he talked 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.240 about the Democrats didn't really run on identity politics exactly. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.640 They kind of soft pedaled it. I would suggest. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.520 That the Republicans weren't running against what the Democrats were 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:48.200 running on. The Republicans were running against what the Democrats 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:49.000 have done. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.720 What people see in. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:55.040 Their elementary schools and their kids' sports, and the college campuses, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:56.960 and the insanity and they or whatever in. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.800 Your workplace, in the training you have to take every year, 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.799 oh my god, the humiliating DEI training. 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.960 Folks, trust me when I say, with some exceptions, the 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:08.200 momentum is on your side. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.960 Don't consent to that, because it's still. 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.560 Going on in some corporations, government offices where you have 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.520 to sit there and listen to somebody who's getting five 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.520 thousand dollars an hour tell you all white people are evil, 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:24.280 get up and walk out of that s anyway, And just. 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:25.760 I've been wanting to get to this. 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.240 I came across an article and it was in the 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.680 Wall Street Journal, which, granted, if you're employing lots and 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.200 lots of journalists, you have lots and lots of lefties. 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:35.400 It's just inevitable, even if you're the Wall Street Journal. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:40.040 And it's and it's an article about you know, transgender 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:45.120 and politics and quote unquote transgender rights, which means a 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.880 guy can play in women's sports, or a male rapist 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.160 can go into a women's prison and rape some more 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:57.440 women and that's portrayed as transgender rights. That's a prejudicial term. 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.400 Nobody has a right to do that. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:04.960 Sam Marris said Americans aren't fond of seeing biological men 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.239 punch women in the face at the Olympics, either spike 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.280 volleyballs into their face or what have you, or win 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.040 eight hundred and fifty and counting different medals and awards, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.800 and the college championships, at high school championships and the 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.600 rest of it. It's I tell you what, folks, it is, 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.680 for better or worse, an unbelievable example of how a 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:31.400 very small but vicious group of people can twist society 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.560 in ways that you wouldn't think were possible. Well As 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.200 listening to the National Review podcasts the other day, they're 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:41.640 making the point that the same crowd that managed to 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.040 turn the tide on gay marriage took a hold of 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.760 this and thought they could do it again. I mean, 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.960 because gay marriage was incredibly unpopular not that long ago. 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.280 I always point out that in a two thousand and 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.080 eight election, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton and the Democratic 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:59.000 Party running against each other, both stated marriage should be 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.600 between a man and a woman. That's not that long ago. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.600 In the Democratic Party, the great Barack Obama was against 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.120 gay marriage, but the tide turned by pushing because there 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.040 was it. You know, it was the right side of history. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.560 I mean it turned out, I think we all agree 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.560 now on all but most people agree that makes sense. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.120 And they thought they could do the same thing with 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.240 the trans thing. No you can't, This is nuts. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:25.000 Yeah, it professional like you know, anything goes sexually. Activists 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.480 were part of it, but also the postmodern neo Marxist 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.240 movement excuse me, got ahead of it or got a 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:33.880 hold of it and decided that they could use that 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.400 energy to overthrow Western civilization in the same way that 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.960 you know, Black Lives Matter is trying to and the 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:41.400 rest of it. 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:43.760 So that, yeah, they tried to seize that. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.120 There's a lot of that sort of mission creep in 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:50.559 nonprofits like the NAACP. They've won all their victories, I mean, 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:55.000 what else do you want. The Southern Poverty Law Center, 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.679 they want all their victories. But they got a staff 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.280 and they got lots of people making lots of money, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.760 so they kind of morphed into the yeah, we're uh 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.080 anti hate and then then we raised. 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:05.360 Tons of money. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.440 And by the way, we're gonna identify like half of 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.719 America as a hate group no matter what they stand for. 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.760 And so they just what are they now? They're a 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.839 weird mutated beast to what they used to be. And 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.000 the quote unquote gay rights movement, which used to be 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:25.160 LGB lesbians, gays, bisexual people, which is a very small 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.280 number of people. But anyway, you know, I ought to 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.520 be able to do what I want to do and 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:30.640 marry who I want to marry. Okay, great, And then 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.480 they added the T and oh oh, And that was 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:34.600 the point I wanted to get to in the Wall 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:41.119 Street Journal article, is they used quotes around certain phrases 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.599 that I believed in and I wish I had in 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:43.959 front of me. 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:44.440 I'll find it. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:51.200 But they didn't use quotes around transgender, including talking about 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:55.679 transgender kids. And I wish I could remember what perfectly 0:09:55.760 --> 0:10:01.080 reasonable thing they used quotes around. But we now accept 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.840 that there is such a thing as a twelve year 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.080 old girl being quote unquote transgender. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:07.199 What does that mean? 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.640 Is there an agreed upon meaning of that, or is 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.079 that an activist's effort to prejudice the argument, and therefore 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.240 Wall Street Journal ought to be in quotes. There's no 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:22.800 agreed upon meaning of that term at all. I'll find 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.280 that so I can make the contrast all the more 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.120 clear for you. But the war for the language tell 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.680 you what. 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Let's send our 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:40.280 warriors home for the holidays. Warrior Foundation dot org. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.640 I just saw up on the Business Channel twenty three 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.360 and me is laying off a bunch of people. Not 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:48.400 enough people spitting in tubes anymore. Got everybody that wants 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.559 to spit in the tube, or what turns out? 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.040 Once you're spit in the tube, you're The fund's kind 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:57.480 of gone out of it because so they have like 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.240 no repeat business. How would you, oh right, exactly, you 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.160 get me as a client one time. I've done it once. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.679 It's not a yeah, you're right right? I wonder am 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.720 I still a white fella? I better spit in the 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.160 tube again? No, nobody said that was. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:13.360 My great great grandmother. Still kind of really not that interesting. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:19.959 Just a person's one hundred years ago, sixteen generations ago, 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:27.920 there was a Spaniard in the family. I'll be damn yeah, 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:29.360 oh here it is. That's right. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:30.040 Uh. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:33.200 The article was how Trump is gearing up for assault 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.199 on wokeness with the education overhaul, which I do want 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.920 to talk about, but it uses it continually puts quotes 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:48.040 around the term woke, but then transgender, including talking about little. 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.240 Kids, is not in quotes. Why is that? Wall Street 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:54.360 Journal strikes me as odd? Why is a word smith? Yeah, 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:55.080 that's interesting. 0:12:55.640 --> 0:13:05.520 The Armstrong and Getty showaio podcasts and Our Hot Lakes. 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.280 So RFK Junior is quite the controversial figure. I mean 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:13.000 I knew that going in, but taking in a bunch 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.880 of social media over the weekend, there are a whole 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:19.400 bunch of you who are really, really, really into the 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.319 idea of RFK Junior taking over the health of America, 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:27.640 like it's seems to be among your more important priorities. 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.559 Now I do agree with. I tweeted this out over 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.160 the weekend from the Babylon b and the pushback to 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:37.080 RFK Jr fattest sickest country on Earth, concerned new health 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.640 secretary might do something different. There's a certain amount of 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:43.880 truth to that with just anytime you try anytime there's 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.760 a giant problem and somebody comes along that's going to 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.119 interrupt what you have been doing. There's always so much pushback, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.200 and we use the example of illegal immigration or the 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.320 tax code or the way we eat. We got every 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.520 person I know who's got a kid with autism or 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:04.280 ADHD or anxiety medications they gotta take, and we like, 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:07.439 we just accept that is okay. I guess times change. 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:09.040 I guess every family needs to have a kid who 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.920 needs to be on drugs. What Yeah, yeah, I agree completely. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.520 The question, you know, is, is this guy the right 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.480 shaker upper right, there's the nutjob. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.640 But yeah, it's like the tax code. Oh, we better 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:22.640 not change anything. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.600 No, no, no, But you mean there's no human being 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.800 ever would think this is a good system. You're completely 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:30.480 resistant to changing it. 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.840 To explain, please, Yeah, I recognize my logical fallacy that 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.760 because we're unlikely to change these complicated things, it doesn't 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.360 mean the first person with any idea to come along 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:45.560 automatically should be uh considered the answer. But before we 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.080 get to some good stuff about RFK Junior from the 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.640 Washington Post, here's him talking about vaccines over the year, 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.240 keeping over the years, keeping in mind that last week 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.600 every time a microphone was in his face, he said, no, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:56.760 I'm not anti vax. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.560 Is targeted to attack Caucasians and. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:05.680 A black people. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:11.320 The people who are most men are asconagages and Chinese. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.960 Can you name any vaccines that you think are good. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.920 I think some of the live iris vaccines are probably 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.920 of earning more problems than their causing. There's no vaccine 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.280 that is, you know, safe and effective. I do believe 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:32.160 that autism does come from vaccines. A mountain of scientific 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:37.520 study links autism too early vaccination with certain vaccines, so. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.720 No vaccine is safe and effective. He believes vaccines cause autism. 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.080 It's interesting that a lot of the pushback from the 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:47.600 left on that, given the fact that my entire like 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:52.200 radio career, it's been the parents of Marin County, the 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.320 super lefties who have been saying autism is caused by vaccines. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:16:00.200 Yeah, there's like a direct correlation between that belief and 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.920 Master's degrees are higher in any given zip code. Yeah. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.400 Yeah, so now it's a right wing crazy thing as 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.680 opposed to it was a left wing crazy thing. But anyway, 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:11.880 he also wants to get the fluoride out of the water, 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:15.560 which I heard I still hear heard yesterday people saying 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.320 that's nuts. One of the most successful health programs in 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.680 world history. Well, they're a person who writes about this 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.000 sort of stuff for the Washington Post is RFK Junior's 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.480 views on flooride aren't as crazy as you might think, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.080 and lists all of the pushback there has been over 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.760 the years. We've been doing this since nineteen sixty two, 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.440 by the way, putting fluoride in the water, and most 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.640 states have been on board for decades and decades. But 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.520 there's a whole bunch of countries around the world, like 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.520 real countries, that have decided now, this is not good. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.560 It can cause all kinds of problems. So I just 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.680 want to point out that on this particular topic, it's 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:53.000 not nuts that he's going around saying that. Yeah, I know, 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:57.480 my own personal level of belief and health authorities was 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.480 seriously damaged by observing everything that happened during COVID became 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:05.840 clear that they listen. If we say there are downsides 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.840 to this, people won't do it. So let's pretend there 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.200 are no downsides. Saw it running rampant. 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.560 That doesn't mean you have to reject everything all the 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.760 time in a knee jerk way. But yeah, they are 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.720 willing to trade off good for bad in their perception 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.280 and then downplay the bad, sometimes at the point of 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:22.119 utter dishonesty. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.600 Well, how about the food pyramid throughout my lifetime and 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:25.720 the lies around that? 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:34.800 Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show, The 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:36.480 Armstrong and Getty Show. 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:45.760 Speaking of the recent electoral results in which the Democratic 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.919 Party took a hell of a drubbing, in particular the 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:53.720 more progressive side of it, and anybody who was advocating 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:59.520 the wildest of the woke policies really took it on 0:17:59.560 --> 0:17:59.880 the chin. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:00.960 Thank god. 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.240 It seems like an odd moment for perhaps the most 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:08.040 progressive of America's governors to decide this is my moment, 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:12.199 But Gavin Newsom of California did just that with a 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.560 maneuver or two, which we will discuss with our guest, 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:17.400 Katie Grimes, the editor in chief of the California Globe 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.160 who has been covering the California State Capitol for ages 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:22.000 and Ages. 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:23.280 Katie, Welcome, How are. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:27.080 You, Good morning, Joe, Good morning, Jack. I'm well, I'm 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:28.919 especially well after the election. 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:31.439 Yeah, i'd imagine, so. 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.679 I love the headline your recent piece Gavin Newsom is 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.800 attempting to play on a stage well above his pay grade. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.440 Would you agree it seems like an odd moment for 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.879 the woke Gavin to decide. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:43.439 This is my time. 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:48.040 Yeah, he needs to learn to read the room, because 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:51.760 he's about as popular as Kamala Harris. 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:57.760 I understand the wanting to be the first in as 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.879 the leader of the resistance for the you know, the 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:06.240 nomination of a Democratic candidate for twenty twenty eight. He 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.480 wants to me the first name out there. But this 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:12.440 whole fighting on a couple of areas that seem to 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:16.800 be thoroughly beaten, at least in this most recent relection. 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:17.639 What's he thinking? 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.280 You know, you ask a really good question, because I 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.679 don't have an answer for that. I don't think the 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:28.960 way he does, thankfully, because he's just a full blown narcissist. 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.879 And I think part of the problem is a he 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.439 has no interest in governing, and he has no clue 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.480 in governing, So his natural inclination is to pivot to 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.719 something that's going to get him some media headlines. And so, 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.440 you know, claiming to fight Trump is going to certainly 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:50.520 provide him some headlines on our lifting media. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:55.080 So you've made your career covering California and California politics. 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:58.480 For folks listening around the country, what has the trend 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:02.160 been in CALIFORNI And you can pick whatever item you want, 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.680 but I'm struck by the illustration and your piece in 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.680 the California Globe of the presidential results by county from 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.040 twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, for instance. 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.400 Yes, yes, isn't that There's nothing like a good visual. 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:21.960 So it looks like in this election, Republicans slipped at 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:24.119 least eight states that we know of right now, and 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.760 that's only with seventy two percent of the votes counted county. 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:28.920 Some are saying it might yes, it might be as 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:32.080 many as ten counties flipping to the Red. And so 0:20:32.119 --> 0:20:36.760 that's why that visual is so lovely. My point in 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:42.119 this is even Californians are set up with these ridiculous, horrible, 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:47.560 damaging policies that frankly, they're harming people in California, whether 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:51.840 it's the increase in crime or you know, withholding water 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:56.640 to our agriculture, or I mean you just the lousy schools. 0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:00.119 Even lefties are tired of this because lefties, well they 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:03.280 might vote very left in California. They live like Republicans. 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.560 They're tight with a buck, they want their kids to 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.320 go to good schools. They do care about the roads 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.199 in which their rims are getting bent on. There's all 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:13.119 kinds of things. Of course, the crime just is in 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:14.000 everybody's face. 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.040 It's funny. I mentioned that my car's in the shop 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.000 for a week because I cracked my wheel on a 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:23.359 pothole because of our crappy, crappy roads, oh so ripped 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:26.760