1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now, thank 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: you for being with us, everybody. So a few things. One, 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: as we know, the Epstein file release is in process. 4 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: It is. 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: Passed by the House and the Senate unanimous except for 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: one guy in the House. And then beyond that it 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: has to get signed by Trump and then there will 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: be a thirty day period for the release and we 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: will have to see just what is in those files. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: There will be a lot of efforts, regardless of what's 11 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: in them, to engage in finger pointing. There'll be people 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: who try to claim that the files say whatever they 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: want them to say, or rather they indicate, oh it's 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: we all know they're gonna they're gonna try to find 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: some version of Trump. Is there's there's more to find 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: out about Trump, even though what we know. That's one 17 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: way that they'll do this, and I think they'll also 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: plan to engage in the Hey, Trump didn't actually release 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: everything that he that he could ever should have released. Here, 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: for example, is a Democrat member at Congress. I'm I'm 21 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: just preparing you for this right because I feel like 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: those of you who really wanted this release and you've 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: approached this in good faith. You just want transparency about 24 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: something that is a huge web of evil and deceit 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: and exploitation and criminality, all these things. You just want 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: to know if anybody was an accomplice in a criminal 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: sense to Jeffrey Epstein, other than Glenn Maxwell, who's already 28 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: serving its twenty year prison sentence. You want to know, 29 00:01:56,280 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: and that is entirely valid. But then they'll be people 30 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: on the other side of this. There'll be a lot 31 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: of Democrats who have been saying, we have to see 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: the files, we have to release the files. And as 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: these files get released, guess what they're going to say, Oh, 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: I think Trump didn't release what needed to be or 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: there's something else missing, there's some other piece of this. 36 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: This is a Democrat, Garcia from California. This cut six. 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: Here you go. 38 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 3: Do you have concerns that the files may have been 39 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: in any way messed with, tampered with? 40 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: Of course I have those concerns, and obviously I don't 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: trust the Trump Department of Justice. But let me lay 42 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: something else out, which is important to that point. 43 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 5: We know that right now the president has a choice 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 5: to make. 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: He can be honest. 46 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: He could come clean and release. 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: The files of the American publican justice of the survivors. 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: What we expect he's probably doing is by launching this 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: kind of new sham investigation where he's only going after 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: his political enemies or Democrats. He may he's doun of 51 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: an excuse to try to stop or delay further release 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: of the fire because right now they haven't done anything 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: to the public, so that is a real concern. 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: They're not going to accept whatever it is that comes 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: out as the final word because it's not going to 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: implicate Trump. This is my prediction. It's not going to 57 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: implicate Trump. I don't even think it's going to criminally 58 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: implicate personally. This one I could be wrong on, so 59 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you it is. I'm just saying what 60 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: I think. I don't think it's going to criminally implicate 61 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: anybody else. Again, Buck, why do you think that? As 62 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: I have explained, the DJ already has the stuff. So 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: imagine the DOJ saying, you know, we thought this whole 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: time there was nobody else to charge, but since you 65 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: guys made us release this publicly, there's some names in 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: there we got to charge. I just don't think it's 67 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: gonna happen, right, and come on, This is the one 68 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: thing that bureaucracy and I will tell you this from 69 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: my my short and I don't know, glorious less than glorious. 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it. It was very 71 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: interesting actually being in the CIA, but my short time 72 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: at the CIA, the one thing that the bureaucracy is 73 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: very adept at doing is covering its own ass. This 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: is one thing that they are really good at. Right, 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: whether you want to talk about where does the deep 76 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: state really excel? The deep state excels in making sure 77 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: that there is no accountability and no one to dismantle 78 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: the deep state, and if they try, it turns into 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Skynet from terminator and tries to start like an external 80 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: nuclear war to cover its tracks. I mean, the deep 81 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: state will do, will do anything in order to make 82 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: sure that there is no accountability. So that's why you know, 83 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: there are some places where you can see the motivations 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: of people that would hold stuff back, or people that 85 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: would play games with what's going to come out for 86 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: them to admit that they had something that should be 87 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: criminally charged and to not do it's just it's not 88 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: going to happen. I don't see how that could happen. 89 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, I'll let you know. If I'm wrong, 90 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: I'll come out and admit it. But that tends to 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: not be the case. I also think that you're going 92 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: to see, you know, you're going to see people who 93 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: view this as just another opportunity to run over or 94 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: go over once again, everything that we already know about 95 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: this here is a see and this is cut seven 96 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: CNN's Abby Philip just saying, you know, when Trump was 97 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: a Democrat, he was hanging out with them, like all 98 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: these other Democrats always about Trump play. 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 5: It is the NAGA base that asked for it. Is 100 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 5: also Donald Trump who said he was going to do it. 101 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 5: Now he's the one who has been flip flopping back 102 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: and forth on this one thing. I would also note 103 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 5: Donald Trump was a Democrat back when he was hanging 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 5: around with Jeffrey Epstein. So talk of all the Democrats 105 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 5: hanging around Jeffrey Epstein includes him. 106 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we know that, but there's this this completely 107 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: transparent all roads with Epstein. There's no there there when 108 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: it comes to Trump Epstein. But yeah, with Democrats, all 109 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: roads lead back to Trump. All roads Epstein related lead 110 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: back to Trump. So if you say, hey, how many 111 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: times was Bill Clinton on the plane with Epstein? They'll 112 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: say more times than Donald Trump was. If you say 113 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: how how how many years you know was was Bill 114 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 1: Gates friends with Jeffrey Epstein, They'll say, well, more years 115 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: than he was friends with Trump. I mean it's it's 116 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: always about trying to attach this to Trump in some way. 117 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: It couldn't be more transparent, it could be more obvious. 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: So I'm just preparing you for that's not going to change. 119 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, doesn't They could release everything unredacted and say, guys, 120 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: I swear, you know, take us to the I don't know, 121 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 1: take us to the where could they? It's the DOJ. 122 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: I mean you can't take them really to any but 123 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: cross my heart and hope to die. Here's all the documents. 124 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: And people say, no, that's not all the documents. So 125 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: so I'll get ready for that. Also, I think it's 126 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: worth hearing from Caroline Levitt on this, the White House 127 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: Press secretary, who says that the they keep leaving out 128 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: that of all of the victim testimony from the Epstein trot, 129 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: all the victim testimony, no one ever implicated Donald Trump. 130 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: And what else? What else can you know about this. 131 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: I mean, here you go. This is a cut nine 132 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: play it. 133 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: It's classic Washington host. Yes, you have Democrats on the 134 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: Oversight Committee leaking redacted information to their favorite reporter at CNN, 135 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: who then pops the story with that redacted information. The 136 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: unadacted version proves that the so called victim in this 137 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: email is a woman who is unfortunately deceased, but prior 138 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: to her death said on numerous occasions that President Trump 139 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,679 Speaker 3: never did anything wrong and was always incredible be friendly 140 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: in her interactions with him. And so it's a purposeful 141 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: lead to try to manufacture this news cycle to drag 142 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: the president. And we've seen this play out so many times, 143 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: and it's a classic playbook of the Democrats using their 144 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: friends and the fake news to spin up a narrative 145 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: about the president. 146 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: And that will continue no matter what's in the files. 147 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I want you to be ready 148 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: for on this one. They will continue to say there's more, 149 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: there's more Trump, Trump is hiding things and all that. 150 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: Something else though, that that came out of the This 151 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: is by the way, this is Caroline Levitt on our 152 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: frim Miranda Divines podcast. Miranda was on with us. H oh, gosh, 153 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: was it yesterday? The week is all blending together now, 154 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: and you know she has that reporting about the would 155 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: be Trump assassin. So, and it's interesting. I actually talked 156 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: with Christopher Ruffo today on a panel about this. Miranda 157 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: and Christopher both are of the mind that the FBI 158 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: knew this, but knew everything that's come out, but didn't 159 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: release it or didn't publicly talk about the fact that 160 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: this guy was using day they would be assassin, was 161 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: using day them pronouns and is that were sort of 162 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: better than them than the FBI being so incompetent that 163 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: they missed it. We shouldn't we definitely know that if 164 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: this person, this individual who tried to take the country 165 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: into the darkest place in my lifetime by assassining Donald 166 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: Trump at that field in Butler, Pennsylvania, wouldn't wouldn't the 167 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: FBI and anyone in charge of the FBI know that 168 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: we absolutely need to understand every aspect of this. How 169 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: could they have how could they have held that back 170 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: knowing it? So this is why I was like, maybe 171 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: maybe they just they weren't really I don't know, they 172 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: don't have that, they didn't have the crack team on 173 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: this one. But it turns out, I guess the consensus 174 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: is that they knew and they held it back. We 175 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: knew that, for example, the Comington shooter, the trans terrorists 176 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: who shot up at school in coming to in Tennessee, 177 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: we knew that that individual had a manifesto and that 178 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: they were hiding the manifesto, so that one was quite clear. 179 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: They just got to hide the manifesto because then people 180 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: will all know this is a trans lunatic terrorist. But 181 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: in this case, they knew it, but they didn't tell 182 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: anyone anything about I don't know the whole thing, just 183 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: it stinks. It's bad these these agencies. They've lost so 184 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: much credibility. They've lost so much in terms of public trust, 185 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: and at best it will take time for it to 186 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: be rebuilt. But I don't know if it ever goes 187 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: to where we thought it was. Maybe at some point, 188 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: maybe some of you never trusted the FBI, and that's fine. 189 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: I think I clung for a long time, and even 190 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: after I worked at the CIA, I clung to the 191 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: belief that the FBI, on the most important stuff, when 192 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: push came to shove, would be first and foremost a 193 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: law enforcement agency and not a tool of politics, and 194 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: that's just been completely obliterated in the last decade, completely 195 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: obliterated January sixth of everything. So how do you how 196 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: do you come back from that? How do you? I know, 197 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: we've got good people over there, We've got Cash, We've 198 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: got Director Patel, and we've got Dan Deputy Director Bongino. 199 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: Who are you know? They could they could just be 200 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: making millions dance case, you know, tens of millions in 201 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: the private sector doing what they love, hanging out, and 202 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: instead they're trying to put this thing on the right 203 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: footing the FBI to remake the FBI in some ways. Man, 204 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: that's got to be a thankless job, thankless job, and 205 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: a very tough one because the damage done. I don't 206 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: know if it's possible they may have been given mission 207 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: impossible to be put in charge of this effort at 208 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: the FBI specifically, and I think at some level you 209 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,479 Speaker 1: have that as well well with Tulci Gabbard as the DNI. 210 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: The intelligence community does not want to be coordinated, It 211 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: does not want to be directed, so to speak, It 212 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: does not want to be playing nice with each other. 213 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: And so ultimately the role of the Director of National 214 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: intelligence is essentially an impossible one because these different entities 215 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: are always going to fight for their own prerogatives, and 216 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: you're seeing that with efforts to reform the CIA, and 217 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: so these are very big, long term projects that are 218 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: quite challenging. Maybe Congress can do more, though maybe there's 219 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: greater leeway than we had anticipated. Here's Caroline Levitt, this 220 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: is cut eight saying straight up on Rehnder Devine's podcast, 221 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: time to let go of the Filibuster. 222 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: He is in total agreement that we need to let 223 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: go of the filibuster. It's not serving the purpose that 224 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: it originally intended to serve anymore. It's really a moot point, 225 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: and he wants to see it gone so that he 226 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: can have the most productive three years of any president ever. 227 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: He's already been so productive in his first term. There's 228 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: so much more work to do. Election integrity, voter id, 229 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 3: getting rid of universal mail in ballots, All of that 230 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 3: can be done if Congress works together and gets rid 231 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: of the filibuster. So the President is definitely talking a 232 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 3: lot about that, both publicly and privately. I know he's 233 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 3: expressed his opinion on that to leaders in the Senate 234 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 3: who may agree or disagree. We'll have to see how 235 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: it shakes out. But there's so much that can be accomplished, 236 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: and we must take advantage of having the most productive 237 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 3: president in the oval office. 238 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: So this is very interesting because you end up getting 239 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: into not only a discussion of what is best for 240 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: the country and what is constitutional intent, you have to, 241 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: I think, do some anticipatory analysis of are the Democrats 242 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: going to do this, because it would seem to be 243 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: a clear mistake, a strategic error to wait around not 244 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: have Donald Trump in the formidable world role of not 245 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: just president but leader of MAGA and there's this movement 246 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: that's been built around him to go for some take 247 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: some big swings at the plate, if you will. That 248 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,239 Speaker 1: would only be possible with the removal of the filibuster. 249 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: If we don't do that, and then you, I know 250 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: it sounds to some of you unthinkable, but it's not. 251 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: It's not impossible. A Newsome presidency where we all sit 252 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: around and just look at the wind blowing through his hair, 253 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: his shirt buttons so low, so handsome. Gavin Newsome, uh 254 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: a Gavin Newsom presidency or an AOC or or Gretchen Witmer, 255 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: whoever it is that they're gonna they're gonna put forward. 256 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: If they go and do it first, there's a big 257 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: first mover advantage here because then I then I think 258 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: that you'll be able to make decisions and make policies 259 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: that will affect future elections. That's the thing. So, you know, 260 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: we talking about election integrity, for example, you get real 261 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: election integrity measures in place, who does it hurt Democrats? 262 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: We all know that, right, So, I mean that's I 263 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: don't even think Democrats can really they don't even really 264 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: argue that point. They're like, there's no fraud. It's like, 265 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: what about all these people that go to prison for 266 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: election fraud? What about these people that, Oh my god, 267 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: why is it always a Democrats who seem to be 268 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: caught up in the election fraud stuff? M so weird, 269 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: funny how that happens. 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Use my name 332 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: buck for a massive discount on any subscription for life. 333 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: A couple of things today, I want to throw into 334 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: the mix for our conversation, for our rumination on and 335 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on it. For sure, 336 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting. It plays into some broader 337 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: narratives and concerns that we have. One is this Pew 338 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: poll Pew Research Center came out just a few days ago, 339 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: and it's making the rounds now that twelfth grade girls 340 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: are less likely than twelfth grade boys to say they 341 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: actually want to get married someday. Now more overall of 342 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: twelfth graders, so these are roughly like eighteen year olds 343 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: right summer seventeen, summer nineteen, but twelfth graders I think 344 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: are basically eighteen eighteen and nineteen. More of them said 345 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: they would not get married someday, but not a lot more. 346 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: But the thing that I found more interesting about the 347 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: data here, and this is also the kind of polling 348 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: where I think it. I don't think it's hard to 349 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: do this pretty accurately. I think that you're asking for 350 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: people's opinions. They're easy enough to find, they're going to 351 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: share these opinions, so it's not some political incentive to 352 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 1: mess with this data. It's not like an election or something. 353 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: So I think that what's there's there's something that's concerning 354 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: here and something that I actually find encouraging I'll start 355 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: with the concerning side of this. The concerning side of 356 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: it now is that sixty one percent of girls say 357 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: that they want to get married someday. As if I'm 358 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: reading this data correctly, boys are more likely than girls 359 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: to say they want to get married someday seventy four 360 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: percent versus sixty one percent. Only sixty one percent of 361 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: girls say they want to get married. What is going 362 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: on here? Well, I think we know what's going on. 363 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Unfortunately are our society. And I think, look, I've only 364 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: I've only been around for a certain period of time, 365 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: as you know. But for my entire adult life, to 366 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 1: be sure, there has been this I call it like 367 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: the Sex and the City Sex and the City effect, 368 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: the boss boss girl stuff. There has been a very 369 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: clear effort in our culture, a broad, broad effort in 370 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: our culture to tell young women to act like men, 371 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: not to pretend they're men. That's also happening. That's a 372 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: separate issue, right, that's the trends thing. But to engage socially, 373 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: certainly professionally as men do, and to view dating and 374 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: hookup culture the way that men do, and to instead 375 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: of having legal equality and illegal right to choose their 376 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: own destiny. They should view themselves more as equal as 377 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: in the same as men, and young women are not 378 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: the same as young men. You and I know this 379 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: is not a recipe for long term happiness for women. 380 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: This is not going to result in good life choices 381 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: for most of the women. There are always exceptions. We're 382 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: talking about roughly, you know, a big chunk of humanity here. 383 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: We're talking about women in the eighteen to thirty year 384 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: old age age range here. But I'll tell you I 385 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: know this just from if we want to get anecdotal. 386 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 1: I know so many women who are my age now, 387 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: they're in their forties that I grew up with in 388 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: New York, and they had nothing but options, and a 389 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: lot of them are not married and they're never going 390 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 1: to have families now, And what do we What would 391 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: I say to them if they wanted to hear my 392 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: opinion on this, which I don't think they do. They're 393 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: probably not listening to this show. But they were completely 394 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: misled by the culture. They were put down a pathway 395 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: that was very likely to cause misery. And they're even 396 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: little small things along the way here. I remember when 397 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: I was when I was graduating from college, everybody around 398 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: me wanted to work at an investment bank or a 399 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: management consultant firm. Maybe that was an it's not just 400 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: an Amerst thing though, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Dartmouth, Amhers Williams, 401 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, haver Ford, Stanford, Duke, all these plays. Everybody 402 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: wants to. They want to. You want to come out 403 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: of school. You want to make one hundred and fifty 404 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: grand your first year out of school, which is what 405 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: you can make at some of these places as a 406 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: twenty two, twenty three year old. 407 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:26,959 Speaker 4: Uh. 408 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: And so that was what everybody wanted to do. But 409 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: the hours, especially on the investment banking side, were absolutely 410 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: miserable and brutal. Eighty ninety hour weeks expected. That was 411 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if you weren't going to sign up for that. 412 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: And I just remember thinking, I was like, how many 413 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: of the young women that I knew in that class, really, 414 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: why do they want to do that? And this some 415 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: may say this is going to sound sexist. It's not sexist. 416 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: It's just an objective view of reality. Men and women 417 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: have different biological timelines that they're operating under. That is 418 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: just fact. Young women putting themselves in the cubicle farm 419 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: from age twenty two to you know, thirty, to try 420 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: to make VP at Goldman Sachs and grinding away indoors 421 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: and do all this stuff. Should they be able to 422 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: do this if they choose absolutely, Is this going to 423 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: make most of them happy? 424 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: Well? 425 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: I can tell you none of the ones that I 426 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: knew lasted. None of them did it a couple of years, 427 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: maybe stayed in finance, and they all stopped because guys 428 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: work overwhelmingly. Why do guys work in finance? Why do 429 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: guys do any job where they can try to make 430 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: a comfortable living Because they want to be an attractive partner, 431 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: a mate husband for a woman so they can provide 432 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: for a family. And you know, this is why these 433 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: guys put themselves through this. And you know the data 434 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: on the other side of this is also very clear. 435 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: They've run these experiments and you don't even have to 436 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: you just think through the experiment. Guys sees a beauty women, 437 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: a beautiful woman, she's wearing a power suit. She's a 438 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: boss babe. Guys sees the same the same woman in 439 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: a different context. She's wearing a McDonald's uniform. The percentage 440 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: of guys who care about this is very small, very small, 441 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: just a fact, just the truth. They've done these they've 442 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: done these experiments before, you know, and and we have 443 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: led so many of these women down this young women 444 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: down this pathway. And it's my generation that I think 445 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: it is. I'm a I'm a gray beard millennial. I 446 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: do have grand my beard. I'm a graybeard millennial. My 447 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: generation was just DEI and boss babe, sex and the 448 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: city stuff just just decimated. Certainly the people who grew 449 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: up in the big cities and and were around this 450 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: really uh inundated with this culture. And and it's still happening. 451 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: These young women, you know, you don't don't want to 452 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: get married. I mean I I you can sit and 453 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: watch all these interviews that they're there's some very actually 454 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: good podcasters. You do these long form interviews with CEOs 455 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: who are wildly successful. And one thing I've never heard 456 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: and these different some of these hosts the Diary of 457 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: a CEO guy. There's others. They're always told the same 458 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: thing about these guys who have more money than they 459 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: know what to do with, more success they know what 460 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: to do with. If they had to regret, it was 461 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: I wish I spent more time with my family. And 462 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: if they're asked what they're most proud of and they 463 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: have a family, you know what they say, their family. 464 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is all very very much there first. 465 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: So I really think that there need to be more 466 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: voices speaking to young women. Are not going to some 467 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: of you, by the way, very glad you're listening to 468 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: the show. But I don't know if a forty three 469 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: year old guy telling women about their life choices is 470 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: going to resonate with you twenty somethings who love Taylor 471 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: Swift like I understand that may not be my prime 472 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: demographic for my message, but we need more women who 473 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: can speak effectively to them. And it's for their own 474 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: good because there being led down a pathway that is 475 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: not turning out well. And the fact that you're getting 476 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: close to almost half of women don't want to get married, 477 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: young women, eighteen year old women, they don't want to 478 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: get married. Now you could say, oh, maybe they still 479 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: want to have kids, and I would say to that, 480 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna have kids, you should get married, Okay, you should. 481 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: You should have a stable family. Formation shouldn't do the 482 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't do this, the baby mama thing, or the shouldn't 483 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: do this. 484 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 485 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: Bruser ally tells me some people are getting mad at 486 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift for getting married. No, no, no, this is 487 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: this is very bad message they have. Okay, on the 488 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: good so that's on the bad side of things. Women, 489 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: young women are being absolutely brainwashed, misled. It's terrible. I 490 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: see it everywhere. And the results are just going to 491 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: be a lot of a lot of misery for them 492 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: later in life or a lot of regret. I should say, 493 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, people can find purpose and a lot of things. 494 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you can't find purpose without a family, 495 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: and certainly not saying you can't find purpose without having children. 496 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: And a lot of people have difficulty having children. But 497 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: we're talking it's like policy, what is going to bring 498 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: the greatest happiness results for the greatest number of people 499 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: getting married, having a family, pursuing a life where you 500 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: are focused day to day outside of your own needs 501 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 1: and wants. It's so important. It's so important to have 502 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: things that you care about. Relationship with God, your wife, 503 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: your husband, your kids, your immediate family. You know your 504 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: family member that you're a caretaker or taking care of. 505 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: You have to care a cause that's actually worthy, not 506 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: like climate change, but an actually worthy cause you have 507 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: to care about things beyond yourself, because otherwise you'll just 508 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: go through the scale of hedonic adaptation. Things get better, 509 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: you get used to it. Materially, things get better. You 510 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: don't care anymore. You know. I was recently out with 511 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: a guy is a friend of a friend, very nice, 512 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not putting him down, but I just thought 513 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: it was kind of funny. There's a car called a Pegani, 514 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: which I think is costs like four million dollars six 515 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: minutes a car. It costs millions of dollars. I don't 516 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: know producer rally google what a Pegani costs. It's absurd. 517 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: And this guy has eight of them. And let me 518 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: tell you something, the ninth Pegani, he's probably gonna lose it. 519 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: So it doesn't even care. Right, you reach this point 520 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: where that stuff doesn't matter. You have to find meaning 521 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: in other things, meaning things outside of your immediate needs. 522 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: And once on the upside though, of this same pupil, 523 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: the fact that young men and I love it's a 524 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: huge problem for the Democrat Party. It's a huge problem 525 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: for the woke left. Young men have gotten the message. 526 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Young men realize toxic masculinity is a toxic ideology of nonsense. 527 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: They have realized that that the suppression of traits and 528 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: within masculinity, bravery, courage, aggression concentrated in the right ways, 529 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, that the suppression of these things, wanting to 530 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: be the leader of a family, wanting to be the 531 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: leader of a of a of a community, well and 532 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: whatever way that is. I want to be a leader 533 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: in the workplace. That the suppression of that is just 534 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: absolute nonsense and really destructive. And young men are realizing 535 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: this is why they are turning away from the Democrat Party. 536 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: That's why young men are increasingly going back to for 537 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: those those who are Christian going back to church. There, 538 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: they they want more. They want to lead, They want 539 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: to be spiritual leaders. They want to be people that 540 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: they want to be someone that their wife can count on, yes, 541 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: to defend them, to protect them physically, but also emotionally 542 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: and spiritually, to be there for. We want to have 543 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: our roles. We want to pursue the best of what 544 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: it is to be a man. Young men want to 545 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: get married in greater numbers. According to Pew, they want 546 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: to be masculine, not you know, just oh, I'm shooting 547 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: up a lot of steroids, and you know, I look 548 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: like he man or whatever. No, it's about fulfilling their 549 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: masculine imperative, their masculine destiny to be men, that they 550 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: become good men. They get it in greater numbers. And 551 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: it's just because of the failure of what the left 552 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: is offering, the undermining and the hypocrisy and the smugness 553 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: of our culture of leftism and liberalism and all this 554 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: other nonsense that's just constantly degrading and pulling men down. 555 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: They see it, and they've had enough, and they know 556 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: there's something better. And I just truly hope that the 557 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: young women of America are on the precipice of a 558 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: similar renaissance, a similar rebirth of understanding. But I'm not sure. 559 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: I worry women have been greatly misled and the damage 560 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: is just beginning, I think, to set in for many 561 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: of them. Tunnel to Towers Foundation honors America's greatest heroes, 562 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: like dedicated public servant Josh Bischoff. Josh began his firefighting 563 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: career as a volunteer and quickly rose through the ranks 564 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: to become cal Fire's Assistant Chief of Tactical Air Operations. 565 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: Josh was driven a driven by a deep sense of 566 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: purpose and a passion for serving others. His leadership earned 567 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: him great respect across the state of California and beyond. 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Amy, 585 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: Hey back. 586 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you were right on about the young 587 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 2: girls nowadays. Be misled. I've been in nurse forty years. 588 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: I have four. 589 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: Children, seven grandchildren, all young, and I've. 590 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 6: Never met an elderly person who said, I'm so glad 591 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 6: I didn't have kids. Best decision I ever made, so glad. 592 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 6: And I talked to the young girls I work with, 593 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 6: who are all hitting their thirties, saying, nobody out there, 594 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 6: I guess I'm never going to have kids, and they're 595 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 6: desperate to meet young people, a lot of them. 596 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 1: Well, look, I obviously you agree with me. I agree 597 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: with you, Amy, and congrats on this the beautiful and 598 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: expansive family you have created. A couple of thoughts I 599 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: have on this. One is, Man, I could do whole 600 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: shows just on dating because I was in the dating 601 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: world for a long time and I have all these 602 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: scars to prove it in New York City and Washington, 603 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: d C. No less as a right wing guy, so 604 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: you can imagine what that was like. But I think 605 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: that women in the social media era are often trying 606 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: to pick guys base more upon look Men are about 607 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: looks generally more superficial than women. That is like a 608 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: shock anybody. Men really are superficial about looks. Women generally 609 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: in the past at least have been first and foremost 610 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: interested in a man's ability to be a husband, father, 611 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: and provider. I think that's changed a bit. I think 612 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: that women now more than ever, are what is he 613 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna You're talking about young women, so don't please if 614 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: you're sixty, don't say no, buck, That's not what I think. 615 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: I know. I'm talking about the twenty year olds out there. 616 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: I think that they want to be able to say 617 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: that my boyfriend is six foot three, and they want to, like, 618 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: you know, have him towering above her on Instagram. It's 619 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 1: like we was he a jerk? Is he a great guy? 620 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: Do people around him really respect him? Or does he 621 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: just paul? I think that female superficiality in the dating 622 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: world has been increased by the social media eraworin you 623 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,439 Speaker 1: could yell at me. I think that's true. One other 624 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: interesting thing, because I mentioned about the women in different 625 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: outfits across all demographics, across all socioeconomic strata the three 626 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: most preferred professions. When guys are asked, if you get 627 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: to pick your future wife could have what job when 628 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: you met her? Do you think any of them say CEO. 629 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: You didn't getting them say you know, nuclear scientists, although 630 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: that would be cool. I think it's nurse, doctor, teacher, 631 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: not a surprise to anybody, right, So we just had 632 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: a nurse calling in and we'll talk about maybe I'll 633 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: throw some more social truth bombshells out there tomorrow. I 634 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: feel like all of you know everything I'm saying is true. 635 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: It's just all true. And the angry Libs who have 636 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: been led astray by they're the ones who get mad 637 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: about it. But you all know everything I say is true.