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Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought you by the Fields Total Group,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Senior writer John Osher, NFL Network analyst and former

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Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and Senior reporter JP Shaddrick bring you

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Speaker 1: the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: Huddle Up starts right now.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks. It has been

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Speaker 3: a while on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: It's a new year. We're onto the off season.

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Speaker 3: There's plenty to discuss in the coming program today. Peterson out,

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Speaker 3: Bulky retained. The coaching search is underway. We'll take a

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Speaker 3: look at some of the candidates the Jaguars are asking

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Speaker 3: for interviews from. And of course it's on to the

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Speaker 3: off season. Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks brought to you

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Speaker 3: Go to Fieldsauto dot com. JP Shadwick, John Oser. We're

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Speaker 3: at the Honday studios of the Miller Electric Center and

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Speaker 3: j Jxonville. Bucky Brooks is in LA and first off,

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Speaker 3: it's been a while Bucky on a Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Second, I mean, how are things in LA today with

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Speaker 3: all the fires?

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Speaker 2: And how are you and your family dealing with it?

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Speaker 4: Everybody's cool on my end, but it's crazy, Like the

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Speaker 4: fires are not too far from where I reside, and

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Speaker 4: it's just nuts to see a city under siege when

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Speaker 4: it comes with so many fires.

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Speaker 5: There are four fires that are burning simultaneously. The fire

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Speaker 5: department and.

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Speaker 4: The first responder is doing a really good job trying

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Speaker 4: to contain it. But it's with the winds and everything

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Speaker 4: that's going on, it's just kind of been bananas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't even imagine. I covered way back in

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Speaker 6: the day some wildfires in central Florida Daytona area. This

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Speaker 6: in ninety eight, ninety nine, and I didn't get the

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Speaker 6: brunt of it the way Bucky is. But you get

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Speaker 6: a feeling for you know, it's if you haven't lived

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Speaker 6: through it or seen it, not to be light about it.

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Speaker 6: Fires fire, and it's it can be devastating with the

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Speaker 6: winds they're getting out there, Bucky, stay safe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about that. Buck. And you've got playoff

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Speaker 2: games this weekend. What are you doing.

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Speaker 5: It's a fun time because we got to college football playoff.

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Speaker 4: We got stuff to look at, get a chance to

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Speaker 4: see Texas do their deal against Ohio State and then

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Speaker 4: hopefully we get a chance to defend Stay in Notre Dame.

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited about all of it.

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Speaker 6: When's Alabama playing, Wow, Okay, they deserve to be in it,

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Speaker 6: that's right.

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Speaker 2: They don't know.

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Speaker 3: They don't stop it. They never deserve to be and

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Speaker 3: that they they played anyway, don't We're not going down

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Speaker 3: this rabbit hole today. Okay, enough, Uh, let's go down

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Speaker 3: another rabbit hole. And it's the changes for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson is out, Trent Bulkey stays. JAG's

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Speaker 3: owners shot Cohn earlier this week on a Zoom Media call,

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Speaker 3: what was it about.

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Speaker 2: The coaching that needed the change?

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Speaker 7: Last year? We started off eight and three and then

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Speaker 7: went one in five, okay, and didn't make the playoff.

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Speaker 7: Was the winning season, but didn't make the playoffs. And

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Speaker 7: after that, you know, I started really right in Nashville.

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Speaker 7: Sat down with Doug, Okay, what are we going to do?

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Speaker 7: And he identified, you know, on the defensive side we

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Speaker 7: needed to change the staff and so on. And as

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Speaker 7: the season you know, progressed, obviously we weren't doing well.

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Speaker 7: We were close like yesterday, but not close enough. To

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Speaker 7: win the game. And then as I spoke to you know,

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Speaker 7: Doug even last week for a good length of time,

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Speaker 7: you know, I just came to the conclusion what we

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Speaker 2: That's Ownershot Cohn.

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Speaker 3: In that same zoom call GAM Trent balk on it

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Speaker 3: as well, and he was asked if he was surprised

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Speaker 3: he's still the general manager.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if surprised is the right word. You know,

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Speaker 8: that's ultimately, that's not my decision. That's the decision of ownership,

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Speaker 8: and I certainly respect the decision that's been made and

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Speaker 8: I'm just as responsible as anybody else. And you know,

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Speaker 3: That's Trent Balke, general manager, Bucky what's your There's a

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Speaker 3: lot to dive into here, obviously, start with the firing

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Speaker 3: what shod Con had to say, are you surprised, shocked?

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Speaker 2: What's your reaction.

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Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily surprised that he was dismissed. Whenever you

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Speaker 4: you're always subject to be removed. And despite his best efforts,

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Speaker 4: despite the best efforts of the coaching staff, we just

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Speaker 4: have ten one score losses and you're there but you

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Speaker 5: The big move that could change everything?

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Speaker 4: And that was gonna be the million dollar question if

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Speaker 4: Doug Peterson came back, because last offseason we heard about

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Speaker 4: a tough camp and more attention to detail, to making

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Speaker 5: Etc.

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Speaker 4: But we had a worse record and a team that

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Speaker 4: previous year. So it's gonna be really really hard to

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Speaker 4: sell that to the team. And so, yeah, you disappointed

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Speaker 4: because these close friends those things, but it's a bottom

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I said this often I think Doug's a good coach.

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Speaker 6: I've been around a lot of good coaches. You've gotten fired,

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Speaker 6: I think at some point, and now Bucky and I

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Speaker 6: have talked about this. I's it's about belief and direction

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Speaker 6: fault of the coach, but once you start losing like that,

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Speaker 6: then your voice within the players that belief in that

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Speaker 6: direction are Are they completely buying into what you're saying.

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Speaker 6: Circumstances can mean you're just not listening anymore, or not

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Speaker 6: they I don't think they have enough great players to

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Speaker 6: think you could say that as a message and then

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Speaker 6: keep the head coaching that, even if it's not necessary.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's Doug to blame. I don't necessarily think so.

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Speaker 6: But I don't necessarily think you could bring it back,

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Speaker 6: because I don't know how he would have gotten it back, Bucky.

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Speaker 6: I mean, how you get the messaging, how you get

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Speaker 6: I think sometimes coaches lose it because of that doesn't

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Speaker 6: mean you couldn't go somewhere else and do it, but

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Speaker 6: I think it does mean you can't do it there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you, John. I mean, as much

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Speaker 4: as Sea Khan talked about the x's and o's and

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Speaker 4: the vanilla schemes and the lack of you know, unpredictability

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Speaker 4: of those things, at the end of the day, man,

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Speaker 4: it's not about the ex's and o's, It's about the

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Speaker 4: jimmies and Joe's. Now, the coach's job is to make

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Speaker 4: sure that he has the Jimmies and Joe's in prime

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Speaker 4: position to make plays. But he wasn't able to do that,

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Speaker 4: and so he is certainly to blame for that, particularly

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Speaker 5: Which was supposed to be the strength of the team.

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Speaker 4: And we had heard my conversations about who should be

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Speaker 4: subject to the performance of those that you delegate. Those

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Speaker 4: the standard, but I would say the offensive ineptitude is

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Speaker 4: really what did him end. This offense never looked like

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Speaker 4: ultimately that falls on the head coach, and it falls

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Speaker 4: not getting that production up the park and.

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Speaker 3: To get Jimmy's and Joe's in the building. That's the

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Speaker 3: job of the general manager. A lot of the outside

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Speaker 3: criticism after Monday was that Trent Balke was still the

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Speaker 3: that move and that decision from shodkn You know?

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Speaker 4: To me, look, I certainly understand normally, when you pour

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Speaker 5: The general manager and the head coach normally go out

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Speaker 4: And as a general manager, you normally don't get three

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Speaker 4: opportun unities to higher head coach in one spot. If

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Speaker 4: it goes a ride twice, normally you go with the

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Speaker 4: second coach that is dismissed. But Trent gets another opportunity

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Speaker 5: And Frank, the emergence of Brian Thomas Jr.

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Speaker 4: As a star, the recent play of Bretton Strange, what

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Speaker 4: I think you can make a reasonable case that maybe the.

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Speaker 5: Talent isn't as bad as you would think.

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Speaker 4: Even if we can talk about the free agent class

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Speaker 4: the number one picks, even Trayvon Walker included, Because the

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Speaker 4: that might have been enough to make it where it

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think too. Shod gave you a little insight

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Speaker 6: supporting that vision. That's what I heard when Shod was

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Speaker 6: so to speak. I don't know if I completely nailed

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Speaker 6: the vision there, Bucky, but that's what it felt like

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Speaker 6: and sort of piecing things together Shod has said over

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Speaker 6: there that as Shot goes through this interview process, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he said that almost as much, Bucky towards

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Speaker 3: the end of the press conference, if anybody has better

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Speaker 5: Well, he said that.

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Speaker 4: But he also said that the people that he lean

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Speaker 2: Bucky, what do you like? What do you know about

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Speaker 4: I'm mistaken killing Moore is the son of a longtime

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have no doubt he's gonna be a head

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Speaker 6: I don't know. He doesn't feel like a favorite to me,

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Speaker 3: So Todd Munkin is in a good spot right now

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Speaker 2: But what do you know about Monkin here? He's been

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Speaker 5: It has been all over the place.

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Speaker 4: The good thing I would say is he at least

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Speaker 2: Nope, we lost Bucky, We'll get Bucky back.

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I was not around when Todd was here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bucky, we lost you mid monk in there. But

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Speaker 5: No, I think I think I think John has a

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Speaker 4: And the comparison to Bruce Arians is one that is

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Speaker 5: He understands what it should look like and what you hope.

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Speaker 6: And this isn't everything JP. But you know, some guys

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Speaker 4: Yeah, his big jump in you know, he went from

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Speaker 4: The job is a big one, and it's a big

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Speaker 4: But he's a little young. There's a lot of newness

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Speaker 2: We had a long list.

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Speaker 4: Of guys and everyone's to tell you about the play calls,

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Speaker 4: we're going to have all this other stuff. There's little

441
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Speaker 4: correlation between what someone did as a play caller on

442
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Speaker 4: offense to.

443
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Speaker 5: What they have to do as a head coach.

444
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Speaker 4: The number one thing we have to do is set

445
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Speaker 4: the coach and can he take what he learned from

446
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Speaker 4: Sean McVay in LA take that because they have one

447
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 4: of the best coaches that you're finding pro football, and

448
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Speaker 4: implement that in Jacksonville.

449
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Speaker 5: That's gonna be the million dollar questions yeall say quickly.

450
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Speaker 6: When I worked with Tony Dungee said, the biggest thing

451
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Speaker 6: he had to learn was immediately right out of the

452
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Speaker 6: box that when you're a head coach, you can't solve

453
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Speaker 6: your problems in the film room anymore. As a coordinator,

454
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Speaker 6: your instinct is if something goes wrong on Sunday, that

455
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Speaker 6: you are in the film room until one am Tuesday morning,

456
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Speaker 6: and that that's where you're going to solve your problems.

457
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Speaker 6: Every head coach has to realize, Hey, I can't solve

458
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 6: my problems alone in the film room anymore. Bucky, speaking

459
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Speaker 6: to this point, I've gotten the point where I'm always

460
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Speaker 6: wary of the hot guy who's in the top five

461
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Speaker 6: in offensive stats. Does it concern you to so many

462
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Speaker 6: guys on this list are good coordinators with great quarterbacks.

463
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Speaker 6: Different dynamics come in, and I think this is what

464
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Speaker 6: we're talking about. Don't get necessarily locked in to the

465
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Speaker 6: statistical rating on.

466
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Speaker 4: This absolutely and I think it's like, I think that's

467
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Speaker 4: the number one thing because my fear comes from listening

468
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 4: to shotgun talk about like unpredictability and the bills and

469
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Speaker 4: whistles that you can see on Sundays when you see

470
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Speaker 4: these offensive coordinators doing these fantastic things.

471
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Speaker 5: With elite quarterbacks.

472
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Speaker 4: And what you have to then able to do is

473
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Speaker 4: let's have an honest conversation about Trevor Lawrence.

474
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Speaker 5: What does Trevor Lawrence fit in that situation?

475
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Speaker 4: And is Trevor more like Josh Allen or more like

476
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Speaker 4: someone that is in the middle of the pack, And

477
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Speaker 4: how can you build an offense that fits them? And

478
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Speaker 4: so that's why it can't be just about, oh, I

479
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 4: need someone to elevate Trevor Lawrence.

480
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Speaker 5: Is about who.

481
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Speaker 4: Can take the team and take the team to another level.

482
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Speaker 4: That's why we have to be very very cautious and

483
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Speaker 4: careful when we talk about like the play call at

484
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Speaker 4: the offensive play caller being the guy that's gonna come

485
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Speaker 4: and save the Jacksonville Jaguars because guess what, Deoe Peterson

486
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Speaker 4: was regarded as a great play caller before we came

487
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Speaker 4: to Jacksonville, and here we are looking for another coach.

488
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Speaker 5: So it doesn't matter.

489
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Speaker 4: It has to be the leadership part of it and

490
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Speaker 4: the organization part that we need to focus on more.

491
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Speaker 3: Speaking of the hot names on the list, we'll come

492
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Speaker 3: back in a moment and get to Ben Johnson. That

493
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Speaker 3: is the name that's been thrown around the most by

494
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Speaker 3: Jaguars fans. It feels like in the last forty eight

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Speaker 2: It's huddled up with Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 10: It's definitely something that me personally, I don't want to hear.

500
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Speaker 10: I think he's a great coach. He's done some great

501
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 10: things for this organization and he's a great guy, great coach.

502
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 10: Like I said, I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but no,

503
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 10: it's life. We all faced with obstacles in life and

504
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 10: we just gotta keep going.

505
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Speaker 3: Let's Trayvon Walker, Jaguars, Devinsman in the locker room Monday,

506
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Speaker 3: welcome back. It'shuddled up with Bucky Brooks. First time we've

507
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: had this show in a while. Had New Year's Day

508
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 3: was on a Wednesday and Christmas and it's in Bucky's

509
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: contract that he cannot work on either holiday.

510
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Speaker 5: I would I would have fired it up. I had

511
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Speaker 5: things to say then, just like I have things to

512
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 5: say now. The players drive me nuts man with their commentary.

513
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Speaker 4: Why that is just all of her like just just

514
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: just just passing the buck.

515
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 5: Everyone passes the buck.

516
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 4: No one takes full accountability for the things that happened

517
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: on the field, and so to me, that is the

518
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 4: part that drives me crazy.

519
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Speaker 5: We can change the leadership, but if we don't have

520
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 5: the right people, meaning the people that really.

521
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 4: Love ball, care about ball, their attitude and effort is

522
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 4: always right when they take the field, it will never change.

523
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Speaker 5: And I think as we're doing this deep dive.

524
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Speaker 4: And kind of a rebuild, I think that also has

525
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: to be a part of the equation.

526
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Speaker 5: Do you have the right people in the building. Do

527
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 5: you have the right players in the building.

528
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Speaker 4: Not from a talent standpoint, but from a mentality, do

529
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 4: we have the right team to accomplish.

530
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Speaker 5: What we say that we want to accomplish as the franchise.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if you go back and listen to

532
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Speaker 6: Trayvon Bucket, maybe it wasn't in that clip, but I

533
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 6: think you would like what you heard on Monday, right.

534
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 6: But he basically said exactly what you're saying, that they

535
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Speaker 6: need guys that there was a little while during the

536
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 6: season where he wondered if everybody was as all in

537
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 6: as they needed to be during the six game you know,

538
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 6: during six to seven game losing streak, and he talked

539
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Speaker 6: about the need to have that and it just not

540
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Speaker 6: I mean or phrasing poorly, but the gist was not

541
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Speaker 6: accepting that as a team. And I think, to me,

542
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Speaker 6: I would love next season for Trayvon to be more

543
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 6: vocal in that situation. Say hey, I think he's still

544
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 6: getting to a vocal leader stance. I think he's a

545
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 6: leader inside. I think he's he's a guy of integrity

546
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Speaker 6: on that front, who brings the right ethic, and I

547
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Speaker 6: would love to see him as the guy to step

548
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 6: up next year and say, you know what, on a

549
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 6: two game losing streak, that's it. It ends now and

550
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Speaker 6: so they need more of that, and I think he

551
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Speaker 6: can be that guy.

552
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Speaker 4: I like him, And I will say this, like one

553
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: of the things in this guying biz, like you tend

554
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: to lean to guys that come from winning programs that

555
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 4: have played at a high level in college because they

556
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 4: know what it looks like when it comes to winning.

557
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 4: It doesn't guarantee that, but they understand how it should operate.

558
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 4: They understand destruction, discipline and attention to detail that's needed.

559
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Speaker 4: But they also have typically been in an environment where

560
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 4: players hold each other acountable. Because as much as we

561
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: can talk about Doug and the coaches and oh, they

562
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: need to hold people accountable. All the reports that are

563
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: reading from Miami and Chicago and every team that loses,

564
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 4: they all have the same stuff right, the coach is

565
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: not right, But ultimately it's a players.

566
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 5: League and players have to police the other players.

567
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Speaker 4: And so un two we have that where it's confrontational,

568
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: where you can confront and demand more from your teammates,

569
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Speaker 4: it still won't necessarily be what it could be in Jackson.

570
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Trayvon got to a level of that the other

571
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Speaker 6: day That was encouraging to me because he was basically

572
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Speaker 6: saying what you're saying, Buck, that it needs to be

573
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Speaker 6: more about. Hey, hey, we're not going to accept this,

574
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Speaker 6: not the coaches. It's not the coach's team, it's the

575
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Speaker 6: player's team.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's get to some of the coaching candidates, because

577
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Speaker 3: there is a job opening right now.

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Speaker 2: Head coach.

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Speaker 6: I'm fine with him being here.

580
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Speaker 3: Okay, he's still allowed to be. Yes, it is a

581
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: player's league. We got four down and four to go.

582
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Speaker 3: And one more offensive minded candidate. That's Ben Johnson, Lions

583
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. This is the hottest of hot names right now,

584
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Speaker 3: Bucky with his success in Detroit and him staying in

585
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Speaker 3: Detroit last season to come back to the Lions this

586
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 3: year as the OC. He's another guy that's in his thirties,

587
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: young guy, moving fast.

588
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: Went to a great university, so he's been raised the

589
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: right way, being a former Tario, and so he's.

590
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Speaker 5: Been able to take some of the basketball player.

591
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Speaker 4: To college and to adapt into becoming a really really good,

592
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: offensive minded offensive play call. When I look at Ben

593
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Speaker 4: Johnson like it is fun. It is like going to

594
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Speaker 4: an amusement park and watching all the fun things that

595
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Speaker 4: the Lions do.

596
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 5: Right, the reverses the.

597
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 4: Trick plays, the misdirection, the deception, the way it is

598
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 4: so explosive. But I will say with him, he deserves

599
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Speaker 4: a lot of credit for taking over as the play

600
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Speaker 4: call and really helping Jared Goff go to another level.

601
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Speaker 4: But I will say, it's really important that you have

602
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Speaker 4: to be in to give him the pieces to work

603
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: with like Detroit has. And it started with that offensive

604
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: line and then it goes to the permitter playmakers that

605
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 4: they have around the quarterback that allows them to do

606
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Speaker 4: all the fun stuff.

607
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Speaker 5: That we see.

608
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Speaker 2: I'm with Bucky.

609
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Speaker 6: I love his approach. I love everything I have heard

610
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 6: reading and talking to people about Ben Johnson. I think Ben,

611
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Speaker 6: I assume Ben would say this as well. It's really

612
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Speaker 6: easy to be creative, or it's much easier to be

613
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Speaker 6: creative when you trust those five guys up front to

614
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 6: block it when you're being creative and when you're being basic.

615
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Speaker 6: The creativity thing this week, I understand what Schod said.

616
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Speaker 6: I respect what Shod said. When you can't do the

617
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Speaker 6: basics offensively, which the Jaguar's had trouble doing, it's hard

618
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Speaker 6: to be unpredictable.

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Speaker 2: We'll get back with Bucky in just a moment.

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Speaker 3: Those are the first five we talked about, all offensive

621
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Speaker 3: minded candidates. The final three have a defensive background, and

622
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Speaker 3: we stay with the Detroit Lions and Aaron Glenn, defensive

623
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: coordinator who was a Jags cornerback in two thousand and seven.

624
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: Johnny played in five games that year, inactive for eleven

625
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: games in the two playoff games that season.

626
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: Started as a.

627
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: Scout with the Jets for a couple of years with

628
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: the Browns assistant TB coach the Saints, and then has

629
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Speaker 3: been the Lions defensive coordinator since twenty twenty one. And

630
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: they've got a good group over there on that defensive

631
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: side in Detroit.

632
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Speaker 2: They've had a lot of injuries there.

633
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: Some guys are starting to come back at the end

634
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: of the season and they put on a performance the

635
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: other day in the red zone against Minnesota.

636
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Speaker 6: He becomes more and more intriguing, and it's not necessarily Look,

637
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 6: he's done a nice job. The storyline with Aaron Glenn

638
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: this year really unbelievable job with an injured defense and

639
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 6: they're playing above their talent level at this point. It

640
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 6: seems like right, But I think the thing that intrigues me,

641
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 6: I like the early fifties been there before, many his age,

642
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 6: been there before, is ready for the job in the

643
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 6: same way that Monkin is, meaning he's seen a lot.

644
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,239
Speaker 6: And generally speaking, there's something about those fifty year old

645
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: coaches not necessarily trying to impress as many people as

646
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 6: maybe a thirty five forty year old coach who's still

647
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 6: trying to show that they're geniuses. Right, And I'm paraphrasing here,

648
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 6: and I'm not discounting anybody who might get the job,

649
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 6: but Aaron Glenn it seems like has the respect to players,

650
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 6: can stand in front of a room, has the credibility.

651
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 6: And I'm more and more intrigued with Aaron Glenn. The

652
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 6: more I read about him, the more I sort of

653
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 6: dissect in terms of that of what Bucky and I

654
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: have talked about being the person who can set an

655
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Speaker 6: identity the franchise. I don't know if Bucky's come in

656
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 6: from on high and can hear that or not. I

657
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 6: don't know if he's ready, but.

658
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Speaker 5: Bucky, I'm ready. I'm ready. Yeah, I'm ready.

659
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Speaker 6: So he sort of appears out of nowhere sometimes and

660
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Speaker 6: just sort of show.

661
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Speaker 5: He can do whatever he wants. So here here's the thing.

662
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Speaker 4: So what I was going to finish with with Ben Johnson.

663
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Speaker 4: Is it's really easy for Ben Johson to do what

664
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Speaker 4: he does when he's would have kind of live in

665
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 4: the shadows behind Dan Campbell who sets and establishes the culture.

666
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: And so you just have to make sure that Ben

667
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 4: Johnson is comfortable doing that. And Aaron Glenn, who's a friend,

668
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: I have to make sure I acknowledge that, like you

669
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 4: don't have to worry about that. He's very saucy and

670
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 4: spicy when it comes to the way that he approaches

671
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: the team and his unit, and he kind of comes

672
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: from that cloth like played under Bill Parcells, so he

673
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: understands the tough environment, the hard coaching and all that.

674
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: He's very demanding when it comes to the players that

675
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 4: he deals with, and talking to him after our game,

676
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Speaker 4: I did kind of talk to him a little about

677
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: about Jackson. He talked about, look, man, the Jags are

678
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 4: super talented, but he just talked about maybe a little tough.

679
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: That's a little more things that wouldn't be intriguing. So

680
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Speaker 4: I'm intrigued to hear how those conversations go when he

681
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: does have an opportunity to sit down with ownership and

682
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: the fact that he played in Jacksonville.

683
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 5: To me also helps.

684
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: I think he knows what he would be stepping into

685
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 4: with that, And don't discount the relationship that Trent Balky

686
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: had with Bill Parcells and the fact that Aaron Glenn

687
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: played for Bill our sales.

688
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 5: In New York.

689
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 4: When we talk about being aligned and seeing the game

690
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 4: the right way, I think that is something that will

691
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 4: shouldn't be overlooked. When it comes to who is going

692
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 4: to be the guy that eventually gets the job.

693
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Speaker 6: I think I know the answer the question, Buck, but

694
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 6: it sounds like you think he's ready.

695
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's ready, But now guys have to

696
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 5: be ready for the job. I think, yeah.

697
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's like he's the perfect candid, and

698
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 4: I think there's going to be some on the job

699
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: training that you have to deal with. But in terms

700
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 4: of the alignment that potentially could occur between him and

701
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 4: the general manager, I think they do see.

702
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 5: Ball probably the same way.

703
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 4: And I do believe he's a little edgier than some

704
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: of the head coaches that we've had in the past,

705
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: and I think that might be necessary when we talk

706
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 4: about some of the attitude that we see in terms

707
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 4: of like getting in the team going. And I'm not

708
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 4: saying he's a route right guy, but sometimes you got

709
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 4: to have these hard conversations with players. He is not

710
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 4: afraid of confrontation. I think that's really important as a

711
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 4: head coach.

712
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Two more to go.

713
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Speaker 3: Patrick Graham, Raiders defensive coordinator, a long time Patriots assistant

714
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Speaker 3: from a nine to fifteen, and then was with the Giants,

715
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Speaker 3: with the Packers, he's been the DC for the Dolphins,

716
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Speaker 3: the Giants, and the Raiders since then. What about Patrick

717
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Speaker 3: Graham Bucky.

718
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: Really really smart man, really smart defensive coordinator, understands ball

719
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Speaker 4: at a high level. We can talk about the Patriot

720
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 4: weigh and how he's been impacted by that, but having

721
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Speaker 4: watched him in a couple of different programs, first with

722
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 4: the Giants, deal with the Raiders, he did a really

723
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 4: really good job in terms of taking I would say,

724
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Speaker 4: not the most talented squad, but elevating them and getting

725
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Speaker 4: him to play at a high level. He is going

726
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: to come with some really good ideas. He's gonna come

727
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: with an understanding.

728
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Speaker 2: Of how, nope, we lost Bucky, herebe we'll get back again.

729
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 6: I do not know as much about Patrick Graham, and

730
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 6: then a lot about a lot by the candidates. So

731
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Speaker 6: audiferwek move on to Robert sie.

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Speaker 2: Let's finish up with Robert Sala. Goy we Noel here.

733
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Speaker 3: Of course, he was the linebackers coach here from twenty

734
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Speaker 3: fourteen to sixteen. Since then the forty nine ers defensive

735
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: coordinator and the Jets head coach. Since twenty twenty one

736
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Speaker 3: he got Aaron Rodgerd and he is out as the

737
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: Jets head coach. He's actually with the Packers as an

738
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: offensive consultant this year after he got whacked in New

739
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: York and Robert Sala. A lot of people like the

740
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 3: way he has gone up the ladder in the NFL.

741
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he I would. I'd say Johnson, Glenn

742
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 6: and Sala are the three that I sort of am

743
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 6: most intrigued by. And I think Sala I like because

744
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 6: it feels like the Jets are tough situation that he

745
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 6: ran into, and he's still a young enough guy to

746
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 6: very much relate to the players. I have zero doubt

747
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 6: that he could come in and establish culture, learn from experience,

748
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 6: be able to handle the head coaching stuff, because, as

749
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 6: you and I have talked about for JP, so much

750
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 6: of the head coach is okay the first day on

751
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 6: the job. I think Parcels has said it a lot.

752
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 6: You realize at eight thirty on every morning, you're dealing

753
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 6: with something that's not football. It's you know, some crisis,

754
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 6: something's crossing your desk that is not necessarily what people

755
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 6: think about football. Sala is ready for that part of it,

756
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 6: So I think he would be a solid choice. It

757
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 6: doesn't feel like he's the first choice because it right

758
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 6: now just feels like the Johnson Glenn stuff is in

759
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 6: the water. I'd be fine with Robert.

760
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: Soliz and Bucky you're back with us now. I mean

761
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: Robert Sala got fired after Aaron Rodgers through three horrible

762
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: picks in London.

763
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 2: How does that work?

764
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's kind of crazy.

765
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: But I will say all the things that John said

766
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 4: are really intriguing because the culture and establishing.

767
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 5: What they were able to do, particularly on defense.

768
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: You intrigued by the million dollar question how are you

769
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 4: going to handle the offense? Because the thing that really

770
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: undermined his tenure in New York he never could get

771
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 4: the offense going, went through a few offensive coordinators, couldn't

772
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 4: figure it out. So who is going to be the

773
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: person that comes and runs the offense and helps Trevor

774
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 4: Lawrence go from good to great as a player.

775
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: He has to have an answer and a plan for.

776
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: That, because that would be the Achilles hill that you

777
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 4: would kind of associate with ropers out all these defensive minded.

778
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Speaker 6: I mean, that's always the defense. You know, if I'm solid,

779
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 6: my guess is part of the conversation as well. You

780
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 6: know what first couple of years quarterback issues to say

781
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 6: the least, uh, And then the rogers think, you know,

782
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Speaker 6: I think it's probably more of an undecided than a failure.

783
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 6: You know, you can make the argument, really it really

784
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 6: had a chance to get going offensively with that, that

785
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 6: would be really argument.

786
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: If it happened, then they spiral even worse when he

787
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: was gone and was fired in the rest of the

788
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: season in New York too. So there you have it,

789
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: the eight candidates, as listed by the Jaguars X account.

790
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: We're back in a moment. We'll take a look at

791
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: the playoff schedule and wrap it up for the season.

792
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: This is the first show in three weeks, and it's

793
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 3: the last show and after the super Bowl, and this

794
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.

795
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 8: I think Doug and I were aligned, very aligned and

796
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 8: reopened and honest conversations with Doug for three straight years.

797
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 8: So I don't know that the marriage factor. You know this,

798
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 8: This is a situation where you go out and you

799
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 8: pick the best person you can pick, and you you

800
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 8: go to work. You roll up your sleeves and go

801
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 8: to work. Nobody has a crystal ball. Mistakes are made

802
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 8: and all the time in this business, and you gotta

803
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 8: you gotta self correct.

804
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: And that's Trent Balke, Jaguars general manager, discussing the alignment

805
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: with the head coach. Tuddle Up with Bucky Brooks is

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809
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Speaker 3: up tomorrow. Trevor Lawrence speaking with the media at eleven fifteen.

810
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Speaker 3: We're told we'll have that on Jaguars dot com and

811
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 3: all the social channels, Jaguars YouTube, everywhere you watch all

812
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Speaker 3: the normal press conferences standalone from the quarterback two days

813
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: after the locker room, three days after the locker room

814
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 3: was open on Monday, Let's.

815
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: Take a look at the playoffs schedule quickly, and then

816
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: we'll get out of here, Bucky.

817
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: We've got some fantastic football games in the wild Card round.

818
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: Four thirty Saturday, Chargers Texans, eight o'clock Saturday, Steelers Ravens.

819
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Speaker 2: Who do you like in those two? Bucky let out?

820
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: It's an interesting one.

821
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Speaker 4: I'd like the Chargers against the Texans, and then you know,

822
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens are playing the best football that we've

823
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 4: seen going to the tournament.

824
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Speaker 5: So I'm gon go to Ravens in that one.

825
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chargers, right, and maybe those a Flowers had the

826
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: knee injury in the game against Cleveland. In Week eighteen,

827
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Speaker 3: three games on Sunday one o'clock Broncos Bills, Packers at

828
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Speaker 3: the Eagles at four thirty, and then I'm really excited

829
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Speaker 3: for the Command and the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: I never thought i'd say that this year. What do

831
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: you like about those three games?

832
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 5: Bucky?

833
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 4: Well, naturally, you want to take the Buffalo Bills because

834
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: they're playing at home. They've had a really, really good season.

835
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: Josh Allen has played at MVP level, so.

836
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 5: You like them.

837
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles to look, the thing that hangs over

838
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: the game is the health and availability of Jalen Hurst.

839
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 5: If he's there, you like them. And then finally I'm

840
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 5: just fascinated by Jayden Daniels.

841
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 4: And even though the Buccaneers are rolling, it is something

842
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 4: about Jaden Daniels and Washington play. Sometimes a superhero quarterback

843
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 4: can lead you past the opening orm.

844
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, Bill's Eagles and Bucks.

845
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that last game. That's why it's today o'clock

846
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: on Sunday night. It's it's an intriguing matchup, could be

847
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: like forty to thirty five, some weird score like that

848
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: Monday Vikings at the Rams.

849
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Speaker 2: What do you like in this one? Buck?

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Speaker 4: You know, normally I would take the Vikings in this

851
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: just because Kevin O'Connor and Brian Floor is that combination

852
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 4: of tough. But there's going to be kind of a

853
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: rallying or a galvan a kind of like a galvanizing

854
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: theme that attacks that it hangs with La. So look

855
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 4: for the Rams to play at a high level because

856
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: with all the fires and all the other stuff, there's

857
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 4: gonna be some added energy in the building that could

858
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: be enough to get them over the top.

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00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

860
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 6: One final thing, conceptually speaking, Bucky, I hate the Monday

861
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 6: night playoff game.

862
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 5: Are we talking about?

863
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: Look?

864
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 6: Play the playoffs on the weekend, Monday night, we're short rest.

865
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 6: I don't like the Monday wild card game. How about

866
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 6: how about that?

867
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Speaker 2: Did you like the three games and eleven days around

868
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 2: Christmas games?

869
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 3: No, you like Sunday wildlock.

870
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 6: With prime time weeks and Monday in the playoffs. It's

871
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 6: an inherent disadvantage the next week you're playing. I don't

872
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 6: think it's fair. I don't like it, Bucky, I don't

873
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 6: like it. How about that?

874
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: How about that man?

875
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 5: The old man get off my yeah, yeah, lost everything?

876
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: When everyone's playing at one o'clock, all the games at

877
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: One o'clock, at four o'clock.

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Speaker 6: You know what, go back to six divisions, fourteen games,

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Speaker 6: and two rounds of the playoffs. While you're at it,

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Speaker 6: three division champions in a wild card, just like nineteen

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Speaker 6: seventy four.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, it's so ridiculous. But that would defeat your person.

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Speaker 5: If we turned back the clock, then we wouldn't have

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Speaker 5: everyone throwing it all over the yard.

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Speaker 4: Then you have to get that you're a cloud of

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Speaker 4: dust and a lot of tailbacks, kind of being the

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Speaker 4: focal point of the team. That certainly doesn't hit your wills.

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Speaker 2: Full backs, full back baby, full back football.

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Speaker 6: You're right, and I still don't like Monday night playoff games.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is our first show in three weeks, but

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Speaker 3: it's our last show until after the super Bowl. We'll

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Speaker 3: come back with podcast versions only after then. Bucky, it's

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Speaker 3: been a pleasure all season long. Good luck with everything

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Speaker 3: going on in La Man.

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Speaker 4: It should be a lot of fun because then when

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Speaker 4: we come back, we get to talk about the combine

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Speaker 4: and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 6: Oh well, yeah, it'll be keeping Bucky seriously stay safe

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Speaker 6: out there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, thanks guys, all right.

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Speaker 3: Buy Bucky Brooks joining us, John Osraan, J P. Shaddick,

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Speaker 3: Thanks to David, Joe, Brent Reeber, Joe Fortuneo, our entire crew.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for watching Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks.