WEBVTT - Selects: Was There A Real Robin Hood? 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.520 Hey, everybody, it's Josh and for this week's select, I've 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.560 chosen our episode, Was There a Real Robin Hood? From 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:11.399 the Heady Innocent Days of twenty eighteen. It's a super 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:14.080 neat history episode where we search for the real Robin 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:17.319 Hood and find some really great candidates. Was there a 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.000 Real Robin Hood? I guess you'll just have to listen 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:20.680 to find out. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:42.400 Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.800 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.599 there's Charles w Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.040 We're just horsing around saying who's a Who's Ah? 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.360 Actually, I think people might like a little recree of 0:00:58.400 --> 0:00:59.160 what just happened. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:00.880 Let's hear it. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.000 Jerry said, I need to check levels. We didn't really 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:05.920 say anything, and she said, all right, you're ready. And 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.720 you said, we didn't say anything for levels. She said, 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:09.960 I don't need you to say anything. 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.520 She's like, in fact, I need you to stop talking. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.880 Yeah, And then I had to wait until she said 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.959 start talking his mouth start talking? Monkey? 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.479 Goodness me? Is that where we are? Yep? How's it going? 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:26.960 It's good. I just want to before we really get started. 0:01:27.040 --> 0:01:28.600 Chuck on to point something. I'm not sure if you 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:30.640 know this or not. O, boy, you have a paper 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:32.360 clip holding your glasses together. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:33.880 Yeah. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:35.959 At first I was like, is he just storing the 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.200 paper clip? And I thought, no, he's not storing a 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.200 paper clip. Keep that tucked in his cheek. If he 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.440 were just storing. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.120 It, that would like everything else store. 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.520 It's on the arm of your glasses where your glasses 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:46.480 meet the body. 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.200 Uh huh. You see there, it goes through. 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:53.640 It's the it's acting as the screw because the thing, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.400 the screw came out and I need my glasses on 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.080 in order to put the screw in the glasses. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:00.640 It's quite an under him. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.280 Were you raised in Oklahoma in the depression? 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:04.040 No? 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:06.360 Why because you can get other glasses. 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.760 Dude, that's how busy I am. I can't go by 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:09.519 the glasses store. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:10.240 I don't need new ones. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:14.279 I just need someone with tiny fingers, okay, and good vision. 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.920 In Oklahoma could probably help you to put in the screw. 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.040 Ironically, and this is this worked so well. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.040 I stuck this the paper clip in there, bent it 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.399 around and I kind of like it. 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.520 It is. It's handsome. It's a handsome. Look I think 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.080 you're gonna start there. Well, I like it. Oh boy, 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:36.680 thanks for playing a long sure. So, uh we're talking today. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.360 The reason I said who's A? Who's A? Is because 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:41.920 we're talking Robinhood. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:43.600 Is that from Robin Hood? 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.960 No, it's actually from the movie Role Models, the Paul 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:47.720 Rudd movie. 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:48.560 I like that movie. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.680 It's good. I saw it the other day again. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.080 Good dumb fun. Yeah, I love it. You know he 0:02:54.200 --> 0:03:00.239 like wrote that Rud Yeah he's great. I like a Stiffler. 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:01.639 Yeah, he's great in that too. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:03.920 His little buddy in that movie or whatever they call. 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:09.200 Him, Ronnie, Yeah, yeah, he was Ronnie. Yeah, he's amazing. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.880 I expect great, great things from that kid. Ye, at 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:12.519 least I hope so. 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:13.639 Well. 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.520 Anyway, I was watching roll Miles the other day and 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.919 one of the larp guys comes up and goes, who's A? 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.639 And I was like, I always thought it was huzzah. Yeah, 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.480 Strickland always says it when he's dressed up like the 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.040 King of the Renaissance Festival. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.680 Yeah, those larp scenes were funny too, right, But the 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.000 guy comes up and says, who's A? 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.800 So I was like, I can't wait to incorporate that 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.000 somehow Robin Hood here we go. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:39.480 Prince of Thieves. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.600 Yeah, And the reason why that would work is because 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.160 the LARPers were set in the medieval era, and everyone 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.960 knows Robin Hood's set in the medieval era. But actually 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:52.040 that's totally incorrect. Yeah, most of the time when you 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:59.040 see Robin Hood, it's set in the Tudor era, almost 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:04.520 almost variably in Sherwood Forest, which is a wooded area 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.120 and about the right smack dab in the center of England. 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:14.600 And everybody running around is acting like it's the fourteen hundreds, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.320 maybe the fifteen hundreds, And that's all well and good. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.279 If you're making a Disney version of it, reality just 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.799 goes right out the window. Right, it's Disney. It's a cartoon, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.520 for goodness sake. Everybody lighting up. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.520 But I love that version. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.640 It's entirely possible and it's a good one. And there 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:35.080 are historians who believe that there was a real Robin Hood, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.520 and they have spent a lot of time and effort 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.920 trying to track down exactly who it might be, exactly 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.760 when he might have lived, and my money and a 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:50.680 lot of historians place it right around the beginning of 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.800 the twelve hundreds the thirteenth century in England, long before 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.760 the tutors werever even a twinkle in anybody's loins. 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.480 But here's my bet is that Robin Hood is a 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:12.440 an amalgam amalgam of a few dudes that the writers 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.479 of history have filled in some blanks and then the 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.880 writers of literature just like ran with it. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.800 Yeah, that's that's my take on it, as well as 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.760 that it's a few people served as role models for it, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:28.279 role models and new plan that Paul rud is everywhere. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.960 But there are some people who still think that there 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:35.080 was no such person at all, or maybe even persons. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:36.880 It might have been wholly created. 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.320 Sure, But then on the opposite side, there are some 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.640 people and there are few and far between from what 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.800 I can tell, you believe there was a single person, yeah, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.360 named Robin Hood, who did most of this stuff and 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.680 was the basis for these legends that. 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.240 They're called people who want to sell books. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.840 So there's right, there's like they're like Robin Hood case 0:05:55.920 --> 0:06:00.320 closed a big stamp to do it was like a 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.640 whole spectrum that you can just walk right up and say, 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.440 I believe this, and you're as right as anybody on 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:07.600 the Robin Hood train. 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.039 Yeah, so if we go back in time, you know, 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.600 I think everyone knows that early historians had a lot 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.000 of blanks and they weren't the most reliable narrators. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.239 No, because they would just fill them in with stuff 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:21.880 they made up. 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.880 Yeah, because I think they didn't. I don't know if 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.240 they realized that early on. I'm speculating here that they. 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.760 Were really good historians. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.280 Yeah, that they're like recording history. I think it was 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:36.240 more like, hey, this is a good story, and I 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.960 don't know, in five hundred years people are going to. 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:43.760 Be taking this as is written history. There's spinning yarn. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:47.200 In this case. I don't think that's correct. I think 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.600 that they were they considered themselves actual historian thinks who 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.040 were getting to the bottom of history. But they had 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.640 a worldview, and specifically with Robinhood, it was I think 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:01.680 fifteenth century or sixteenth century Scottish historians who were the 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.880 ones who really kind of gave us the image of 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.440 Robinhood that we have drunk, the robbing from the rich 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:11.400 to give to the poor, the chivalry, a lot of 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:12.000 that stuff. 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:13.080 Anti establishment. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.560 Yeah, that actually was part of it before they had 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.320 to kind of figure out how to make that one 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.520 work because it didn't make sense to them at the time. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.200 But they basically said, here, we've got these ballads that 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.360 were written in the thirteen hundred, it's the fourteenth century, 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.920 and we think they're historical, so we're going to try 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:34.360 to put this in context. And the stuff we don't understand, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.160 we're just gonna make up, but we're going to pass 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.200 it off as real. So there's this if you it's 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.960 one of those great things like with fairy tales. We 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.880 know all these fairy tales, and you remember we did 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.840 those those episodes on it. Yeah, but if you strip 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.880 away this stuff that's been added over the years and 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:53.080 get to the bare bones, it's way darker, a lot different, yeah, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.200 and a lot different than what we know and love, 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.040 as you know, for in this case the robin Hood legend. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.600 Right, So if you want to look at literature, like 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.400 you mentioned these ballads, the actual canon for robin Hood, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:12.960 the very first mention is one called Piers Plowman p I. E. R. S. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.040 Like Piers Morgan exactly. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:22.520 From William Langland about thirteen seventy seven. And then there 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:25.520 were a host of other ballads and this is all 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:29.040 what was this Middle English, I think, so is that 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:29.680 what you would call it? 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.080 I don't know, maybe even old. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.880 Like why's for vowels and things like that, like cannaburytail stuff. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.719 I really don't know if it's Middle or Old English. Way, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.120 it's barely legible. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.360 It is a little and that is spelled l y 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.560 t y lll, which is great. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.160 A little gest of robin Hood. 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:54.080 Those was that like Sean Connery maybe dope. 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.920 Gest of robin Hood. That's just straight up says Robin Hood. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.400 And then a few more robin Hood and the Monk 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.720 robin Hood, and the Potter robin Hood, and Guy of 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.520 Gisborne and Robin Hood in the Temple of Doom. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.760 Yeah, that one was super dark. 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:13.760 It was very dark. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.160 The author had just broken up with his girlfriend. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.680 And I think that's what brought us the PG thirteen rating. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:24.400 It was mistaken that incremlins. So whether or not you 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.360 believe this stuff basically has to do with whether or 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:32.719 not these early songs you think are just songs or a. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.400 Matter of history historical record. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:39.200 Yeah, Like that's how before people commonly wrote stuff down. 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.160 Like at this time when this stuff was being written, 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.840 the people who were writing it were monks, those are 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:48.600 the only people educated enough to write, but people still 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:52.040 pass stories down. They did it through oral histories. So 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.960 it's entirely possible that these early ballads were meant to 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:02.720 were created to commemorate person or people or events or 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.640 something like that, and then just over time we lost 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.480 Wait a minute, are these fiction or nonfiction? But you're right, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:12.079 like that's the divide when it comes to approaching robin 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:17.720 hood from an historical advantage, like are these just totally fiction, right, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.800 or are they meant to commemorate something that actually happened. 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.240 Yeah, And it's easy through today's lens to dismiss these 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.520 things as songs. But back then, like you're saying, it's 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.240 like what better way to remember history, sure than to 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:34.200 set it to Come on, Eileen, you know. 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.000 Why that man? Why'd you just do that? 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:36.800 That's a great song. 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.960 It was the first thousand times I heard it. 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:41.320 Oh, you don't like anymore? You know. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.000 That's one of the problems is it's like it's like 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.040 they just made ten songs in the eighties and that's 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.160 all you ever hear. There were so many more songs. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:49.720 Burning down the house. 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.520 Yeah, it was once a great song as well. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.360 I'm going to see David burndon night. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:11:00.760 Oh cool with uh, So you've won't listen to kime 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.440 on Aileen, but you'll regurgitate the what's up Budweiser guys. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.319 That was from the nineties. I've heard that less frequently. 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.199 What connection did I hear recently from the guy who 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:14.120 directed those I think he's directing movies now or something. 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:15.880 The guy who directed those commercials. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.160 Right, they're like, you may like, you've never heard of 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:21.160 this movie director, but you right, remember these guys. 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:23.600 That was the gist of it. 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:28.280 I'm surprised those ads never got like a full movie themselves. Yeah, 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.319 it was that. That definitely that era. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:31.240 Oh for sure. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.040 Remember the Caveman from the Geico Ads. H they had 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.680 their own TV show for a come out. Yeah, like 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:39.520 for like three episodes see that. 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.520 Yeah, this totally could have been a TV show and 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:43.520 call it What's Up? 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:44.480 Guys? 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:46.920 Right, what's happening was taken? 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:49.199 All right? 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.520 So where were we? We were talking about the talking heads? 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:56.959 Oh, let's talk about the forest. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.680 Well, the reason we're talking about the forest is because, well, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.720 a character may or may not have existed. The stuff 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:09.839 in the ballads definitely bears a strong resemblance sexual historical events. 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:11.040 Yeah right. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.120 Yeah, the forest is significant here because at the time 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.160 in the Middle Ages, how much head a percentage of 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:22.920 two thirds of the land in England was forest land and. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:23.719 It was sort of a. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.880 It was a place where the king, it was a 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:30.920 place where people could go hide out. So that's where 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.599 it gets this sort of outlaw lore is it was 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.959 a legit place for outlaws to go do their business. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:42.240 Right, but it was also an outlaw hideout. Yeah, because 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.199 just by hanging out in the forest you were by 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.480 definition an outlaw because of those forest laws that were 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.200 super unpopular among people. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.960 You know, forest law means what I don't know. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:54.079 Well, I'll tell. 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:55.880 You what's days. What happens in the forest days in 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:56.320 the forest? 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.400 Yeahs unless somebody comes out and blabs about what goes 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.640 on in the forest. Do you remember, like being a 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.920 kid though, hanging out in the forest, in the woods, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:06.480 like playing. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:08.960 I grew up in on two acres in the woods, 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.960 so yeah, I was always in the woods. 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.960 Its own place it is. So you can imagine like 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.840 your whole country is like that, and like that's how 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.600 you're living. You're just an outlaw with your buddies hanging out, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:25.320 having a campfire every night, eating roast pig that you 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:26.560 find wandering around. 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.960 Yeah, but it was weird because the king could like 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.439 that was his land where he could go have, you know, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:37.360 go hunting, right and have his his dudes hunting. But 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:41.120 it was also lawless in a place to hide. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.760 It was weird. There was a lot going on in 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:43.520 the forest, right. 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.920 So the reason why you were just by definition and 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.640 outlaw if you were hanging out in the forest is 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.959 because the king had these forest laws that said, all 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.280 this forest, this is mine. Yeah, this is for my hunting, 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.000 my friend's hunting, and that's it. If you're hanging out 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.320 in the forest, you're breaking the law. And it was 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.440 like a big law and like there was serious punishments first, 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.000 So just being in the forest made you an outlaw. 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.320 But even more than that, the people who went and 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.880 lived in the forest weren't like on the run necessarily 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.400 from the king and the king's officials. They were like 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.920 at war with the king and the king's officials. This 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.760 is a time where like just some schmoe like you 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.840 or me could like wage war directly with the King 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.760 of England and get him to come fight us basically, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:27.960 and that's kind of what happened, and that's why the 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:32.160 forest was a backdrop for all of the robin Hood 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:35.680 legends from the beginning of the ballads up to the 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:39.800 Robinhood Men and Tights. They were all set in the forest. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.040 And because this happened, the forest laws were passed and 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.240 everyone was really upset about it. So, whether it's a 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.880 metaphor or whether they're saying, like the king did this 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.400 and we need to commemorate it, or they were just 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.440 you know, building a foundation for why this action was 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.040 taking place, The forest like plays a huge role. 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:02.920 Yeah, and there's a new Robinhood movie out. Yeah, it's crazy, 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.920 Like it seems like every couple of years this this 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.000 just won't die. They're going to do a new version 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.080 of it. And there's a new one with the kid 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.560 from Kidd and play the Yeah with kid from Kidd 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:13.880 and Play. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.200 He's awesome. He does that like jump through he remember 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:18.800 foot and then jump through this. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:19.800 I used to could do that. 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.840 No, Yeah, I never could. Yeah, I would just fall 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:23.640 flat on my face. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.160 Young Chuck was a little more fleet of foot. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:31.040 Uh, it's got the kid from the Kingsman, you know 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:36.200 that guy he plays Robin Hood and Jamie Jamie Fox 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.960 is Little John, I guess, but it's you know, of 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.560 course this one he's he's shooting like literally like five 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.760 arrows at once, and they all manage to go in 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.040 different directions somehow. 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.240 Oh is it a comedy? 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:49.840 No, No, it's real. 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.760 Oh okay, Like there's guys coming at him from different directions. 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.000 And so he'll put like three arrows and shoot them 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.400 at the same time. Yet they'll all like spread out 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.400 like a machine gun fire or something, her shotgun. 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:04.240 And for some weird reason, he's going yeah, yeah with 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:04.840 every shot. 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.240 And then I was looking up movies today just while 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:09.760 we're on that, and I totally forgot there was a 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.800 Russell Crowe version that I didn't even see. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.480 I think that was just Robin Hood, right. 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:17.480 Robin Hood from like twenty ten. 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:22.280 Surprisedly, Yeah, No, that's not the one. There's one that 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.440 like historians are like, this is about as close to 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:26.760 accurate as we've gotten. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.080 Well, I looked up on the Russell Crowe and then 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.920 I think the deal is that one is a prequel 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:36.600 of sorts, because it's it's like the Wars before he 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.119 became you know, Robin hood. 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.560 That you know robs and gives to the poor. 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.560 I would go check that one out. The one that 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.880 I was thinking of is from nineteen ninety one. It 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.640 was directed by John Irvin, starring Patrick Bergen, remember him, 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:56.400 Oh yeah, and Uma Thurman. That's the one of the 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.560 historians are like, this really is the best out of 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.040 all of them, not Costner. 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.560 I like that movie when it came out. I'll admit it. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:09.600 I saw JFK on the plane to Australian and I 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.480 gotta tell you as it came a Costner fan with 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.959 that one all over again is a great actor. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:16.320 You fell in love all over again? 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.639 Yeah. Well, I specifically avoided Draft Day so I could 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:21.600 leave the door open to be a fan again. 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.159 Yeah, yeah, that's funny. I don't remember. 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:24.359 Uh. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.240 All I remember was that preview for Draft Day. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:28.280 That's all I saw it too. 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:29.720 But I just remember that. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.040 They built up in that previous it's about the NFL Draft, 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:35.880 something so big, like I can't believe that happened, It's 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.720 gonna happen. I was like, what did they like kill 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:38.800 somebody in the draft room. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:47.360 No, they drafted calling Kernick Capernick, that's so you Kaepernick whatever, let's. 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.480 Take a break. I feel like we're off the rails 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:50.720 and we're lost in the forest. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.480 Yeah, and we'll come back right after this as W 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:56.399 s K as. 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:01.639 Big should know that. 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:06.040 That's why s K. 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.280 You should know why s K. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:19.000 That we should know knows. But Josh Clark, by the way, 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.000 I want to say, I admire Colin Kaepernick or Kpernick, 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.320 and I might no disrespect by saying his name. You're right, 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:25.280 that is just so me. 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.520 Of course I knew you're kneeling right now. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.359 In fact, I know that you knew, but I just 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.159 wanted to sure you know. 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.880 All right, So they're in the forest. The forest makes 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:39.919 historical sense, like we pointed out, that's where outlaws did 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:45.560 their bidding. And now we should talk about the king 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.040 because it's sort of not all over the map. But 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:54.359 there's a few a few people that some historians believe 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:55.600 could have been the King of note. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.960 Yeah, but what's what's weird is if you read those 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.560 original ballads that are spelled all crazy, they mentioned the 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.440 king once. Out of all of you, there's just one 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.639 mention of the king, and they refer to him as Edward, 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:09.480 our comely King. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:11.880 Yeah, which I think is Edward three. 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:16.359 Right, that's what some historians say if you take the 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.600 ballads at face value and that they were written contemporaneously 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.200 to Robin Hood's exploits. 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:21.399 Right. 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:26.520 But a lot of people and even in the popular culture, 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.880 the kings that are most associated with the robin Hood 0:19:29.960 --> 0:19:33.399 legend are Richard the Lion Heart and his brother, the 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.200 sniveling villain, King John. 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.960 He's always sniveling and when he and so. 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.920 In the In the robin Hood legends, Robin Hood frequently 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:45.280 helped Richard the Lion Heart regain his throne from King John, 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.920 who had scheme to get it away from him. King 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:51.240 John's the villain King King. Really, Robin Hood's the hero, 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:57.520 but King Richard's like the backup hero. But they think 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.440 that it's possible in some of the best candidates for 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.760 who robin Hood is based on. Actually, we're running around 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:07.399