1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, 4 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: my name is no. They called me Ben. We are 6 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: joined with our super producer Paul Decan, and most importantly, 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: you're here. You are you that makes this stuff they 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Folks, Today, I vote we 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: start this show with a very short clip that some 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: longtime listeners may recognize one of my favorite clips. Prepare 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: yourself for the next twelve seconds. The frogs, the male 12 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: frogs think they're females. Now that's start up. When I 13 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: say that about a frog, I'm not bashing the gay frog, 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: but the chemical got in the water. In the excerpt 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: you just heard, YouTuber and radio host Alex Jones is 16 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: saying that chemicals found in water are turning frogs in 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: his words gay. Yeah. It's um. It's refreshing and maybe 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: a little surprising to hear that Jones took these great 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: pains just to let you the the listener know that 20 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: he has nothing against gay frogs or gay humans to 21 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: that matter, and you can listen to the entire um 22 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: let's call it a presentation on this matter via YouTube. 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Their clips all over the place. Some official Alex Jones 24 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: channel clips you can find, as well as clips other 25 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: people if put on there. And this idea was popularized 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: by Jones years ago. Some of you have written into 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: us asking what the deal is about this over the years, 28 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: and the reason it stays in the public mind is 29 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: because since this idea was popularized by Alex Jones, it 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: became sort of a meme. And the crux of the 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: argument that Jones makes does not stop at frogs. We 32 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: just wanted to play We just wanted to play one 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: of the thesis clips here. Ye, he gets into the 34 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: gay bomb itself that we've discussed before in this show, 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: which was a real plan and it was more like 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: a sexual assault bomb in the nuts bolts of how 37 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: they thought it would work. But he sees the frogs 38 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: as one of the first signs that the government, whether 39 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: acting in concert with other forces or just unilaterally, is 40 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: attempting to increase levels of homosexuality or the ratio of 41 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: of homosexuality in the human population through a widespread dispersal 42 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: of chemicals, particularly in the water. Sure, why not? Why 43 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't the government be doing that right, because you know, 44 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: they're on top of everything else, so they they've got 45 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: so much free time. You know, it's just really they 46 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: just have to worry about the fourth of July and 47 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: tax Day. That's it. So for a lot of people, 48 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: this is a wait what question, and today we are 49 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: hoping to discover whether there is any truth to what 50 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: might seem initially an insane story straight out of tin 51 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Foilton's tin Foilton? Tin Foilton? Is that like the wh 52 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: who Bill? Yes, it's the you know, I think the 53 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: the four of us are going to have to have 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: to learn more about tin Foilton. Yeah, I think so. 55 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll visit one day. Yeah. For now, let's get 56 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: right into the person Alex Jones. Let's get a little 57 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: backstory here. The person Alex Jones, Yes, person, as we know, 58 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: can be used to describe a number of things, especially 59 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: when you get into corporations or media personalities. There they 60 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: are all kinds of things here. So Alex Jones, if 61 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: you're a fan of this show, you are most likely 62 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: aware of this man. He's the creator of the website 63 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: info Wars, and he's in the host of this long 64 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: running radio show called The Alex Jones Show, and over 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the years he has discussed just a whole host almost 66 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: all of the rumors and fringe theories that have ever existed. 67 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah. He's also been involved in a number of controversies, 68 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: from accusing the US government of perpetrating the Oklahoma City bombing, 69 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: the September eleventh attacks in the US, faking the moon landings, 70 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: and more. And he describes himself as a paleo conservative 71 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: libertarian and a lot of his stories to the general 72 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: audience would seem to come from a more right wing perspective. 73 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: He has been called a conspiracy theorist by outfits like 74 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center in New York Magazine, and 75 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: he didn't seem to totally embrace this, but he did 76 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: take it as a source of pride. His response was, 77 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm proud to be considered a thought criminal 78 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: in the eight against Big Brother. I love the phrase 79 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: thought criminal. Yeah. It's taking that George Orwell vibe and 80 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: planning with it. He's got a heart, it's pumping blood. Yeah, 81 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: you got a face hello, Well, in in a strange way, 82 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: he's got I don't know, just that that thing that 83 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: you're doing right here, the impersonation. There's a certain I 84 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: don't know, it's not respectability, but it's it's a cachet 85 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: or something that is very attractive of this, like this 86 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: man standing up in the world of lies telling the truth. 87 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: That's going to take active defiance, and you know, yes, 88 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I take it anymore. Do you guys remember the first 89 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: time you ever saw Alex Jones. It's it's sort of 90 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: like easy to forget. He was in that Richard link 91 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: Ladder movie Waking Life. That was all of the like 92 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, rotoscope kind of dreamy um look to it 93 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: and he's like a ranting, red faced, crazy guy in 94 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: the back of a cab. I want to say, that's it. 95 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: I loved Waking Life, and I that was not the 96 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: first time I saw Alex. It was for me. I 97 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: guess I think that was before he was really really 98 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: entrenched in like the public and the mainstream guy. I 99 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: think he was maybe more localized, like he was in Austin, 100 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: probably an Austin guy. Okay, yeah, so he was. He 101 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: was a super popular radio show host in Austin. And 102 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: I remember seeing Waking Life. For circumstances, I won't get 103 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: into on the air. I was I was confused, you know, 104 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: I was into it, but I was thinking, do I 105 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: recognize that guy? Yeah? Who is that? Sounds familiar? Are you? 106 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: Are you sure that's not a certain comedian named Bill Hicks. 107 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: And that's the story for another day. So throughout the 108 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: ninety nineties and the two thousand's, Jones expanded his work 109 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: and polished his voice or should we a whittled it, yes, 110 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: focusing on more things. He embraced the Internet through sites 111 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: like prison Planet, the aforementioned Info Wars. Prison Planet is 112 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: the more I say, I would say, the the edgy 113 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: or a little more out there version. Uh. And he 114 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: went to protest for political causes he believed in. He 115 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: ran for local office and uh weighed in as a 116 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: political pundit and more. The list of his views, as 117 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: Matt said, is extensive. He has been doing this for 118 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: a long time. And you know what I'm gonna say, 119 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: since we brought up Waking Life, I really liked his segment. 120 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: What's I was saying? It was also before he was 121 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: such a divisive figure, and I have a feeling that 122 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: link Ladder probably saw him more as an interesting uh 123 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: sort of almost like almost more of like a Joe 124 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: Roganny type where he's maybe a little problematic in his views, 125 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: but he's just kind of espousing some like existential crisises 126 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: that we all you know, are faced with. Yeah, account 127 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: he provides a counterpoint to a lot of mainstream views, 128 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: which is important in any discourse. Right. But over time, 129 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah really went went hard and paint right, And now 130 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: we can see looking back through his catalog of statements, writings, 131 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: and performances, we can see larger recurring themes. The primary 132 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: theme for Alex Jones is this idea of overarching government control, 133 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: the goal being a new world order, and the new 134 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: world order, the quick and dirty version is the governments 135 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: and large companies, industries maybe uh dynastic families like the 136 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Rothchilds or something, are working in concert in secret to 137 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: manufacture economic disasters, to make constant surveillance normal, and, in 138 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: Alex Jones's opinion, most importantly, to perpetrate false flag attacks 139 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: or inside jobs and create a culture of fear so 140 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: that they can exploit everyone who's on the outside of 141 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: the inner circle. And Alex Jones that includes everything from 142 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: nine eleven and nine eleven attacks to like the Sandy 143 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: Hook School shooting, all supposedly with the intent of turning 144 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: public opinion in a way that is helpful to the 145 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: nefarious aims of said New World Order beneficiaries. And and 146 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: just to try and be fair to Alex Jones, he 147 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: does take it back to things like the Pearl Harbor attacks, 148 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: saying that you know, something like that causes the public 149 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: to be more pro war. Um, and you know, he 150 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: I want to say, he tries to connect make those 151 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: connections that we try to do on this show as well. Um, 152 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: It's just it becomes a completely different flavor when Alex 153 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: Jones starts going down the rabbit holes. Well, that's so, 154 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: that's part of it. Right. We know at basis that 155 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: governments do leverage public fear and concern quite quite well. 156 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: And we know that governments have, at least the US 157 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: government has partnered with pr firms in the past to 158 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: encourage a fear of marijuana, for instance, based on a 159 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: violently racist ad campaign. Right, And you can check out 160 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: our earlier episode about that. I believe we have one. 161 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: I can't remember. There's definitely a great video on it. 162 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: For reasons we won't go into on a family show, 163 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: My my Memories not a million percent for reasons. Yeah, 164 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: are you testing that government marijuana like I was? I 165 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: I cannot recall. Isn't that what I would be supposed 166 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: to say? So now we know a little bit about 167 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: how it gots started. Who is he? In two thousand seventeen, 168 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: his ex wife saw it custody of their children, either 169 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: joint custody or soul custody. Because she saw Jones' behavior 170 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: as unstable, they divorced in and particularly she pointed out 171 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: she was disturbed by what she saw as him threatening 172 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Congressman Adam Schiff. Jones's lawyer claimed that Alex Jones was 173 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: quote playing a character and described him as a quote 174 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: performance artist, and this goes into the question of authenticity. Jones, 175 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: for his part, denied this, and he called his show, 176 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah, he said it is the most the most 177 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: bona fide hardcore real mccarth finger is and then he 178 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: pounded his fist on the table. Here said Jones. Or 179 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: was it macho man Randy saving Macho man Madden Frederick 180 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: so uh so? And this whole ordeal, this trial gained 181 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: enough national attention that even Stephen Colbert went on his 182 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: his new show and had a whole segment on this 183 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: he played a clip with Alex Jones like doing a 184 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: full haunt Alex Jones. Can we hear it? Okay, this 185 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: is just too good. It's a nice little cut up. 186 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: You guys know who he is, you know, Alex Jones says, 187 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: and four wars right popular Trump CUFIC fan. Donald Trump 188 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: is a big fan. And Jones right now is an 189 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: a legal battle with his ex wife, who says he's 190 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: too unstable to have custody of their children. And to 191 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: prove it, she's been showing the court videos like this, 192 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: George Washington with diary are running out of his pants 193 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: on top that horse, marching to kick ass, marching not 194 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: to give up, take that action. That's who we come from. 195 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: We let all these hunchbacks come rule us. I will 196 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: never coming to you, and the human spirit is rising. 197 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: You will not turn us in the animals. But Jones's 198 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: lawyers are defending him a very unique defense. They're saying 199 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: that when he says stuff like that, they said that 200 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Jones is just playing a character. And here we kind 201 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: of see Alex Jones sort of turning a corner, you know, 202 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: going from his whole bona fide hardcore line to well, 203 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: you know, Stephen Colbert can go to his kids, he 204 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: doesn't take it home. He's playing a character. He's sort 205 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: of implying it, I too, am playing a character specifically, Yeah, exactly, 206 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: specifically Stephen Colbert from the Stephen Colbert Show. Right. But 207 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: he's also even referring to, like he said, he was 208 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: specifically referring to Stephen Colbert making fun of him and 209 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: playing that character. So that's even more meta and weird. 210 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: He he's saying, a guy playing me cannot take that 211 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: home to his kids, so therefore I can too. It's 212 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: similar to the Glenn Beck impression that Jon Stewart would 213 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: do for a number of years, Right, These people playing 214 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: larger versions of themselves, playing satirical versions of people who 215 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: play larger versions and themselves. The uru Burrows continues, and 216 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: and over the years, this character or this man who 217 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: where whatever it is, uh, it has caused he has 218 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: caused a lot of outcry. I'm okay with it. Well, 219 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: whatever Alex Shones is, Alex Jones, the whatever he chooses 220 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: to identify as yes, has has caused a lot a 221 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: lot of outcry. And we're gonna get into that right 222 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: after a quick word from our sponsor. Yes, as you 223 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: can already see, Jones has ruffled more than a few feathers. 224 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: Will give you a few of his controversial views and 225 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: or statements. To be fair, he may have changed his 226 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: position on some of these by the time you hear 227 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: this recording. I don't think so, but maybe depending on 228 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: what new information comes out. And a couple of these 229 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: he did, he has backtracked somewhat true or come up 230 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: with a more nuanced view. Absolutely, and the first one 231 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: that you might be aware of because it also made 232 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: national headlines where Alex Jones views on school shootings and 233 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: specifically the topic of crisis actors and their involvement within 234 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: these school shootings, particularly in the case of Sandy Hook UM. 235 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: He was criticized for claiming that no one actually died 236 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: during UM, the Sandy Hook event and among other shootings 237 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: as well, claiming additionally the eyewitnesses and survivors were actually 238 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: these paid professionals called crisis actors, and his argument hinged 239 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: on the idea that you could see the same people 240 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: at different tragedies, typically shootings, but also maybe bombings, stuff 241 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: like that. And then this led to what was very 242 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: controversial about this is that this led to some people 243 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: who believe this harassing parents of children who had shot 244 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: so dirty dirty business. He also believes the weather weapons exist, 245 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: and he is not wrong that it is possible to 246 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: perform acts of weather manipulation like the Chinese government did 247 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: in the two thousand eight Beijing Olympics, but that's more 248 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: to prevent bad weather or encourage weather uh that would 249 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: be beneficial for crops or agriculture, strategic cloud seating, right, 250 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: And we know that the US government did experiment with 251 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: whether as a weapon of war in the Vietnam conflict. 252 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: But he stated that governments can manufacture or geo engineer 253 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: hurricanes specifically. A lot of the time Alex Jones gets 254 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: in trouble because he states these things as though they 255 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: are fact, as though there is absolutely you know, without 256 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: without even having absolute proof, saying no, this is how 257 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: it is. He'll also do this thing, or he'll take 258 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: something with a grain of truth and just driving into 259 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: the ground and and and do a lot of assumptions 260 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: around that grain of truth to the point where you 261 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: lose the plot entirely, and that thing that might actually 262 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: be true becomes the basis for something that is utterly 263 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: absurd in my opinion. I'll go on record saying I'm 264 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: fine with interviewing Alex Jones. There's some things I want 265 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: to see. His opinion on uh, engineering hurricanes still is interesting. 266 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: We did a video on this a while back, and 267 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 1: the idea of manufacturing natural disasters is not as impossible 268 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: as you might think, because things like fracking, purposeful human 269 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: action can trigger earthquakes, so it is possible to manufacture earthquakes. 270 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm I don't think he. I don't think he has 271 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: any solid proof of purposely manufacturing hurricanes because honestly, how 272 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: the hell would you steer them with a hurricane motor? Sure, 273 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: maybe maybe he owns a hurricane rudder rudder. Uh. He's 274 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: also anti vaccination in some respects, and that's been really 275 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: controversial for him. Uh. He has repeatedly stated his belief 276 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: in something called white genocide, which I almost want to 277 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: say in it different whoy genocide the idea that certain 278 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: groups of people are working to increase violence against those 279 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: identified as white, typically in the US and North America, 280 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: but also in Western Europe, while also reducing their population. 281 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: And he doesn't just get criticism from the mainstream, he 282 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: gets criticism from the fringe community, you say, oh, I 283 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: know what you are, Alex Jones. You're an agent of disinformation. 284 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: You work for the same people you claim to oppose, 285 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: which in this case, my friends, would mean that Alex 286 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: Jones is turning frogs you know. Oh boy, yeah, well, 287 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: and you know that I think is one of those 288 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: more valid points than a lot of the other things, 289 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: because when you have someone espousing somewhat credible ideas while 290 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: at the same time saying that the hurricanes are absolutely happening, 291 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: or vaccinations are absolute really you know, causing autism, or 292 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: these things are absolutely occurring. When you can when you 293 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: can have someone who is treated as somewhat credible on 294 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: one in one respect, but then also just saying the 295 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: craziest stuff on the other hand, it becomes dangerous for 296 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: both sides. But aren't all not to fall into relativism 297 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: in that? But aren't all people like that? They're just 298 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: not on YouTube, yes, but they Alex Jones has a 299 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: lot of people that listen to him. True one criticism 300 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: that he's come under fire four and this is something 301 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: this to be completely honest, this is something that I 302 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: have said before. He has come under criticism not just 303 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: for me, for a large range of branded products marketed 304 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: through a show on the website info Wars. And these 305 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: are things like prepper materials, dietary supplements, survival gear like 306 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: bulletproof vest and so on. You can see a John 307 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: Oliver Last Week Tonight clip on this and and some 308 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: of the dubious claims that have been made about these 309 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: dietary supplements. My primary issue with this is if you're 310 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: doing a show about an imminent economic collapse, right the 311 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: fall of the dollar or something, and then you segue 312 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: into convincing people to buy gold from you, it makes 313 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: what you said earlier, it lessens the impact. You know, 314 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying it's automatically wrong, but it doesn't. 315 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel as trustworthy. Reminds me of that Jim 316 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: Baker stuff. You know. He's this televangelist who prosperity theologist, 317 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: whose whole thing is built around selling these doomsday prep 318 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: materials and like survival food and these disgusting buckets of 319 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: beans and rule, you know, mashed potatoes, cream corn. Yeah, 320 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: who wants that much cream corn? Anyway? Uh, it's it's 321 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: it's true, it's true. It's similar. M Jones has also 322 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: at least Jones hasn't implied that people are going to 323 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: hell if they don't if they don't get prepping materials. 324 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, to hear Jones tyleer, we're already living in hell. Yeah. Yeah. 325 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: Just to bring this up to one of the video 326 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: clips that we were looking at for this, it's this 327 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: response by Alex Jones to the whole gay frogs thing. 328 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: And at the end of it, or let's say three 329 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: quarters of the way through, it shifts over to a 330 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: water crisis video or it feels like they're just shifting 331 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: topics to a water crisis video, but then you realize 332 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: the entirety of the rest of the video is an 333 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: ad for something that they are selling on infro Wars 334 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: about water purification. So that's I mean, that's stuff because 335 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, and it doesn't Again, it 336 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: doesn't automatically mean whatever you're hearing is bs, but it 337 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: is easy to make make you question that because there 338 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: are ulterior motives. The motive is to sell the water 339 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: our purification device. Well, here's an example. We do advertisements 340 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: on this show, right, but it's not products that were 341 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: directly selling to you that directly benefit us that are 342 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: directly tied to the topics we are discussing. Well, No 343 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: had that Blue apron Ad and the cannibalism episode that 344 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: was perfect though Aprin like that too, but that was 345 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: completely coincidence. So you can also argue that any episode 346 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: of ours ties in directly with the tushy Oh for sure. 347 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: You guys just super into tussies. I'm glad you enjoyed. 348 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Since we're talking about silly stuff, I just wanted to 349 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: point out one thing I think the most overlooked conspiracy 350 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: theory about Alex Jones is that he is a secret 351 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: acid house DJ. WHOA. Yeah, there's an article on Spin 352 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: that has screenshots from a video of his where in 353 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: the background you see like all of these vintage drum 354 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: machines like t R eight oh eights and and TB 355 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: three oh three's and all of these like, you know, 356 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: really high end electronic music equipment that and like you know, 357 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: e d DJ decks and monitor speakers and mixers and 358 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff all in the background, And apparently there's 359 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: a screenshot of him commenting on some electronic musician kind 360 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: of doing a jam, an electronic space jam, and him 361 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: saying something like he's at a three oh three in 362 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: the background, So Alex Jones, Yeah, I'll ask him about 363 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: man many layers. Yeah, I'll ask him. And he has 364 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: earned the trust of a large audience. Despite the controversy, 365 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: He's had many mainstream appearances as a representative of fringe theory, 366 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: an interviewee, UH, an opponent of gun control, and while 367 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: he may be controversial or divisive, there's no two ways 368 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: about it, his story is indisputably one of success, whether 369 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: as a secret Bill Hicks and Acid House d J, 370 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: a radio host UH, or even politics. He's dappled with 371 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: that Trump's a fan. Yeah, Trump's a fan. Trump's a fan, 372 00:23:53,960 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: And he has a a very emotionally charged recount out 373 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: of how one of his associates turned him into a 374 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: Trump supporter, which you can see, you can see all 375 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: the stuff that we are talking about on YouTube. With 376 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: all of this in mind, to Matt's earlier point, knowles 377 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: earlier point, it's it's easy to see how somebody might 378 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: dismiss him out of hand, and he might be for 379 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: many people a poison well, and no matter what he says, 380 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: you will think that it's the worst kind of badger 381 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: bile that you've you've ever encountered online and again the 382 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: idea of turning frogs gay with it being part of 383 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: a larger conspiracy to turn people gay. For some reason, 384 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: it sounds like something you would read in the Onion. 385 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: It does, but what if there's at least a grain 386 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: of truth to it. We're going to sift through those grains. 387 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: Right after a quick word from Blue Apron or you know, 388 00:24:54,160 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: somebody else buy gold. Here's where it gets crazy. First, 389 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: we're joking about fighting gold. I mean, do it if 390 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: you want, but don't. We're not seriously telling yeah, account 391 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: right right, at least don't sell your gold at one 392 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: of those we buy gold places. That is a bad idea. 393 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: But that song is so catchy and look at he's 394 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: got so much gold. Just don't do it. So Alex 395 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: Jones is in this case either misleading or being misled 396 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: to some degree. But there is disturbing sand to this 397 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: story because part of it is true. There was a 398 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: two thousand ten study by Tyrone B. Hayes at the 399 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: University of California, Berkeley, wherein they found that a common 400 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: pesticide known as atrazine A t R A Z I 401 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: N E can turn genetically male frogs into female frogs. 402 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: And furthermore, the really crazy thing is that once they 403 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: were changed, these frogs became capable of reproducing successfully, so 404 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: they weren't turning quote gay, they were being truly genetically modified. Right. 405 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: And Haze and his team raised forty male African Claude 406 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: frogs and water containing atrazine and they did it, you know, 407 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: from cradle to grave, from larva sexual maturity, and the 408 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: levels were about what frogs would experience in the environments 409 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: where this stuff was used, you know, around corn production 410 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: so on, all the runoff, right, exactly all the runoff, 411 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: but it was still below the levels that the e 412 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: p A considers safe for drinking water. That is crazy. 413 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: And the other thing is that this wasn't the first 414 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: time work or look a hard look at atrazine had 415 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: been taken. Previous work had found that atrazine can cause 416 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: sexual abnormalities and frogs, such as turning some frogs into hermaphrodites, 417 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: like having both sexual organs I see right simultaneously. And 418 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: the control group consisted, of course, afford the other male 419 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: frogs in water that was attresine free, otherwise exactly identical 420 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: to what that would have been encountered. At the end 421 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: of the experiment, all the frogs in the control group 422 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: are still males, still still dudes. Ten of the frogs 423 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: in the group with atrazine in the water were quote 424 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: and this is haze language, completely feminized, meaning their genes 425 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: said that they should still be male, but they have 426 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: female anatomy, including ovaries, and they could mate and reproduce 427 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: with males. Yeah, it's confusing, right. So in both frogs 428 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: and humans, sex is genetic. So in people, genetically speaking, 429 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: females would have two X chromosomes, males would have one 430 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: X one Y. For frogs, the sex chromosomes are labeled 431 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: as Z or W, you know, just to keep things interesting, 432 00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: and the female frogs will have dissimilar chromosomes Z and W, 433 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: while males will have matching one ZZ. And there's this 434 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: other plot twist. Although the feminized frogs can reproduce, they 435 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: only reproduce male offspring, and that further complicates the sex ratio. 436 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: So ten exposure turns these frogs into reproducing females, but 437 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: a hundred percent of the of the young that they 438 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: produce our male, and then another ten percent if they're 439 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: in the same water that turns. Yeah, so attrazine you 440 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: mentioned corn. It's a weed killer. It's mainly used for 441 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: corn crops, and the mechanism that occurs here is that 442 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: it affects the gender and frogs by mimicking a biological 443 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: compound and increasing estrogen production. So there's solid proof of 444 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: its gender changing effect on frog populations, and these effects 445 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: could apply to other amphibians too. Uh. Amphibians overall, though, unfortunately, 446 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: are in a state of serious decline globally um with 447 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: this effect of atrazine essentially being just another nail in 448 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: that particular coffin. This also has implications for other non 449 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: amphibious species, including possibly humans. Right true story. Yeah, so 450 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: atrazine has been found to not only induce breast cancer 451 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: in rats, but to have similar disruptive effects on hormone 452 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: levels and humans, So affecting mammals, rodents, possible humans. Yeah, yeah, 453 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: no word on birds yet, but the You can find 454 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: the study in full in the journal Proceedings of the 455 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: National Academy of Sciences published in There's another wrinkle to 456 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: the story as well. Some species of frogs already naturally 457 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: and spontaneously changed gender in the West Africa in common 458 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: read frog, and this occurs when the population doesn't have 459 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: enough breeding males. Chemical trigger activates the gene. And just 460 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: imagine this happening, folks. I want to make you uncomfortable 461 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: to have been. Imagine if this happened to you. The 462 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: group of people that you hung out with, your body 463 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: is somehow decided that the ratio was skewed, and then 464 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: this chemical trigger hits and your sex organs disintegrate and 465 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: you develop new ones. That's what happens to these frogs. 466 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: That is bonkers. I could not deal you know, I would. 467 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: I would be very upset. Yeah, I would, just I 468 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I I couldn't deal with that. I have 469 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: a hard time getting a new haircut. I wonder if 470 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: it has anything to do with the regenerative properties that 471 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: some of these species I would say enjoy. Enjoy sure, yeah, 472 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: because I know there are there are other animals that 473 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: have something similar to this right where or the sex 474 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: can change? Yeah, yeah, we can name several, you know, 475 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: moray eels, uh rasses. Yeah, I think a clownfish do this. 476 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: Even the little gobbies, little gobbies, my dad had some 477 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: gobbies before. Oh yeah, what are they like? These? A 478 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: little fish Okay, they're not. I don't know if that's true. 479 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: My dad had a bunch of fish over the years. 480 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if gobbies were actually one of them. 481 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: It sounded like something I remember him saying. But you 482 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: speak of them so fondly. Yeah, true makes me. It 483 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: makes me think of what was that old Hannah Barbara 484 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: cartoon where with the underwater fish people that had the 485 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: little snorts snorts like snorkel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I only 486 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: ever had, like I had a Japanese fighting fish um 487 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: and you know, if you put two of them together 488 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: or like you can hold a mirror up to them, 489 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: they're like go crazy. Yeah yeah, to fight. Oh yeah, 490 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: I was completely wrong. Gobies, gobbies, whatever they are. My 491 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: dad never had one of those. Oh did you just 492 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: text him? Yeah, just text of them, Like there's responsive. 493 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: I have no idea what that is. Okay, maybe he's 494 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: just denying it. That's probably what it is. So I 495 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: love that you mentioned clownfish. Clownfish are interesting because a 496 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: lot of times the way these gender switches occur in 497 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: nature are very specific. So it's not just a free 498 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: for all. What day or month do we feel like 499 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: being what thing or other thing? So in clownfish, there's 500 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,959 Speaker 1: this hierarchy and there's always a female fish who is 501 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: like the queen of the clowns. Yeah, the matriarch of 502 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: the clowns. That sounds somehow infinitely more respectful. But when 503 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: she dies, the most dominant male changes sex and becomes 504 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: the matriarch of the clowns, and then the cycle starts again. 505 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: But the frogs in this study, the African claude frogs, 506 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: are not meant to do this. Do you remember that 507 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: was the name of Cartman's um frog stuff animals Claude frog. 508 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Oh really, so I'm assuming a c l a U 509 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: D like Claude claude, you know, but just a little 510 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: side there for no good reason. Maybe uh, maybe maybe 511 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: Matt Stone and Trey Parker were trying to warn everyone, 512 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: you know. They they have been pretty deprescient about certain 513 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: things in that show from over the years. That's true. Luckily, humans, 514 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: unlike frogs, don't spend our lives laying around in water. 515 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, most of us. I would assume that is 516 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: an assumption. However, the levels of actresine the frogs were 517 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: exposed to again are still below the safety threshold for 518 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: the E P A and at this point, we didn't 519 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: find any proof, any proof full stop that this was 520 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: part of an overall plan to quote increase homosexuality and 521 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: the human population. And honestly, it's difficult to whoa what 522 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: would the motivation be. Would it be too decrease the 523 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: population something over a long long time because the population 524 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: is already decreasing and it has nothing to do with 525 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 1: atrazine in the water. Yeah, I could see that as 526 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: something maybe, but probably not. I mean, what do you 527 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: think about this? Well, the first thing I just want 528 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: to note here, while humans don't spend all day long 529 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: soaking up the atrazine and you know, runoff water the 530 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: way amphibians, these these frogs do, we do ingest a 531 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot of water. We have to, 532 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: that's how we survive. And you know, we were in 533 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: this country. We rely on usually public services to clean 534 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: the water that we drink. So in a way, we're 535 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: putting a whole lot of faith in you know, some 536 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: state and local governments, in our case, local governments to 537 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: clean the water we drink, which may be affected by 538 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: runoff of chemicals like atrazine. And it just makes me wonder, 539 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: what really are we getting in US because we've talked 540 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: about flint before, talked about other places where there are 541 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: serious issues with the cleanliness and chemical freeness of water. Um, 542 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, and is there's another question here. 543 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: Remember life straws. It was nuts about these for a while. Nope, 544 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: these portable water filters that you can use to drink 545 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: from incredibly dirty and contaminated sources of water. They don't 546 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: They don't help against radiation or I think some heavy metals. 547 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: But otherwise, as far as water borne diseases and micro organisms, 548 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: they're pretty effective and they save lives. But I don't 549 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: know if they prevent something like atrazine. Can I get 550 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: a prison Planet branded LifeStraw? You know what? I bet 551 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: if we write the LifeStraw directly and the price is right, 552 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: you can get them branded. However, where do you want 553 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: a prison planet or No? I'm just wondering if this 554 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: is the kind of thing that that that Alex Jones 555 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: would selve. Oh. Yeah, it's survival gear, and it's it's 556 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: a good piece of equipment. I used to have one, Yeah, 557 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: survival gear, but generally use you know, in in impoverished 558 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: areas of the world. Yeah, like in g o's probably 559 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: do them. And now I have to Now I have 560 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: to know, no, I have to know prison Planet has 561 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: info Wars does sell life straws really yeah, nice, Yeah, 562 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: they do sell life straws. Just just to get back 563 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: to the topic on hand, we were talking about a 564 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: depopulation before I derail this here, Ben, and we were 565 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: talking about how that's already happening for a number of reasons. 566 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 1: One of those is just this increased inequality and among populations. Yeah, yeah, 567 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: people can't afford the same quality of life by and 568 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: large that their predecessors could have. In the United States, 569 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: for instance. Since a lot of what Alex Jones focuses 570 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: on is US based, I feel like it makes sense 571 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: to focus on the U S as well. Obviously it 572 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: doesn't imply to every country, but yeah, the cost of housing, 573 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: the cost of transportation, food alone, food alone, the fuel. Yeah, 574 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: just trying to stay alive is difficult, you know. And 575 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 1: there's the other part, this concept that Alex Jones started 576 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: with that he just claimed that it was turning the 577 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: frigging frogs gay. That never happened once. It's that's not 578 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: what this was ever about. That was a phrase that 579 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: he used that is quite frankly homophobus. It's an utter misnomer. 580 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,959 Speaker 1: I mean, they were spontaneously changing gender. That's even even 581 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: the implication of that in some way makes you turn gay. 582 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: It's it's just the most base, kind of offensive characterization 583 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: of that I could imagine. Yeah, it's I guess it's 584 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: a way too the alarmist or scare population. Well, that's 585 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: what we're saying earlier too, is that he'll jump on like, 586 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: you know, obviously there's some truth to the way this 587 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: chemical effects the anatomy of frogs, and this is really 588 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: interesting stuff and there's real research there, but he took 589 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: that grain of truth and just covered it in garbage. 590 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and you imagine he if he's doing a 591 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: live radio show whatever, he's reading, the thought pops in 592 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: his mind and he just says it, and that's what 593 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: he said, and then that's what it became. And maybe 594 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: he has a research team who phrased the copy that 595 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: way for him or something, or you know, I don't 596 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: know how much control he has over what he says. Well, 597 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen a lot of his videos and 598 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: I've watched him a lot over the years, and generally 599 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: what I see at least is him having printed out 600 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: copies of stories that have run in either prison Planet 601 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: or info Wars or in another publication, and he had 602 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: he literally has the copy printed out from whatever's verbatim 603 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: on the page, and he kind of scans it or 604 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: he knows he's got something he's going to talk about, 605 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: and then he just talks about it. Um, So it's extemporaneous. Yes, 606 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: that's why I'm thinking turning the free and Frog's gay 607 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: phrase came out when he actually was reading the article. 608 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: It's just that's the thought he happened. That's probably his 609 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: words and his words alone, straight from his his brain place, 610 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: and then do so if he is just speaking off 611 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:29,240 Speaker 1: the cuff, then the function seems to scare certain parts 612 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: of the population, right, banking on homophobia as you mentioned earlier, 613 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: But the primary issue seems to be the decline of 614 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: wildlife and the dangerous state of the environment. Yeah, the 615 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: chemicals were pumping into it, oh Man. And so we 616 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: did find troubling indications that in this case there's a 617 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: tiny snapshot of a much larger phenomenon. The monitoring of 618 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: pollution in the water or the agencies that are charged 619 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: to do that or the industries that are charged to 620 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: self monitor are doing what they're supposed to do, or 621 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: they're not doing it as well as they're supposed to 622 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: do at least. And it's also this this learning journey 623 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: that we're on, like does this chemical actually have any harm? Well, 624 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: we won't really know until five twenty fifty years later 625 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: it's full effect. And that's the thing about e p 626 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: A regulations. You know, everything we've read about their intervention 627 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: here and say, oh, it's within limits for humans, you know, 628 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: So there are these caveats here, you know, And when 629 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: you get new pesticides and new chemicals, like you said, man, 630 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: it takes time to understand the full implications of what 631 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: they can do. And you might know an immediate implication 632 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: or that it's toxic or not that bad for you, 633 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: but you don't know down the road what it's gonna do, 634 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, Like, I mean, there's no way you know 635 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: it's I don't know that That stuff does scare me, 636 00:40:54,080 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: especially when we see those guidelines being loosened right more 637 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: and more, and for you too as parents, I would 638 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: be interested, like do you ever run into concerns about 639 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff daily? Yeah? I mean even like 640 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: you know, living in Atlanta, for example, like with the 641 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: small warnings, I remember there were days with my kid 642 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: that they don't let you, they don't let him play 643 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,919 Speaker 1: outside because of an orange small alert. Yeah, it's a thing, 644 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: you know, and it's if we're not clamping down on 645 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: this stuff, it's just gonna get worse. There was a 646 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,479 Speaker 1: water main break on one of the large corridors here 647 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: in Atlanta called Buford Highway, off of which I live, 648 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: and we could not drink water or use water. We 649 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: you were afraid to use water. Technically you can boil it, yeah, 650 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: and you know, you can take a shower in as 651 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: long as you don't get in your mouth. But if 652 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: you've got a two and a half year old, it's 653 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: very difficult to prevent them from getting any water into them. 654 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: They put everything in their mouth, they do. And but 655 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: that kind of thing has occurred several times since we've 656 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,479 Speaker 1: had him, and it's just one of those other those 657 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: other things that just has to live on your shoulder 658 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: and you have to think about every moment of every 659 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: day because you've always struck me as someone who needs 660 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 1: more stuff to worry about. Yeah, definitely, But it's also 661 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: one of those things where like they're so little you 662 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: can do other than just being mindful of it and 663 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: being diligent. Uh, it can feel very stifling and very like, 664 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, just frees up if you think about it 665 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: too much, especially when it comes to your kid, right, right, 666 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: And and the question of there's this great concept and 667 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: then terrifying concept called the tragedy of the commons. And 668 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: we've talked about this before. Everybody benefits from something that's 669 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: just around, like water, for instance, who is supposed to 670 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: take care of that? And this also goes to like 671 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: free public restrooms. Everybody will use them if they need to, 672 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: but who is supposed to clean them? Ever since those aqueducts, 673 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: we've been having to deal with this, right, So this 674 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: case may not be so much an instance of a 675 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: shadowy cabal with this weird, complicated scheme to gender bend everyone, 676 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: as it is a case of industrial powers bending laws 677 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: instead of genders to suit a profit margin or to 678 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: push legislation through the Asnal said, loosens some of the 679 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: regulations on pollution, but the fact remains attrazine like many 680 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: other chemicals that we will all encounter on a daily basis, 681 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: depending on where we live has dangerous and disturbing effects 682 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: on the world around us. We ended on a downer. 683 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: If we did it happens. Yeah, should we hear some more. 684 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: Let's hear a clip of Stephen Colbert and making fun 685 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: of Alextra. Lighten it up. I gotta tell you brain fighters. 686 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: Ben Franklin had irritable bowel syndrome exploding all over that 687 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: kite in the middle of a rainstorm. But did that 688 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: stop him. No, they kept going okay, and just it 689 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: went everywhere okay, And that's how he invented the moist towel. 690 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a good call. We 691 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: hope that you enjoyed today's episode, and we we want 692 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on anything that this touched on. 693 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: Contamination frogs, this, this idea of switching gender. You can 694 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: hear a little bit more about that plan for gay 695 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,879 Speaker 1: Bomb in our earlier episodes. And I think we're also 696 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: very interested to hear what you think about Alex Jones 697 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: and what you think about Waking Life. I'm so glad 698 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: you brought that up, the one. 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