1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts Rutt Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tailed Woods and now 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is Rutt Fresh 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Radio powered by Vortex Optics. I'm your host, Casey Smith. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: The duldrums of December can be a downer. However, there 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: is a glimmer of hope, and that hope is big bucks. 7 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to rut Fresh Radio powered by Vortex Optics. I'm 8 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: your host, Casey Smith. Your other host, Tyler Jones is 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: here as well. And we have the one and the only, 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: the distinguished Arkansas and Clayton not Clayton, clay that I 11 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: always want to call and call you clay because Clayton, 12 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: because it's my whole life. Casey, I know you asked 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: me to not. My name is just for so now 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: him if if people call them Casey, yeah, Casey yeah 15 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: actually yeah, but that's all right. Uh Um. It's names 16 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: are fun, man, because you know, if you take yourself 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: too seriously, you get mad about stuff like that. But 18 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: if you don't, then you just we're killing name though 19 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: you think, Yeah, I think the barbecue, I mean like, 20 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean nothing against Matt or yeah, the mass of 21 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: the world. Yea, yeah, I mean, I know you're talking 22 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: about Josh's killers, but I just don't think the the 23 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: world right, the marks of the world we gott But yeah, 24 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: we actually are on a hunt in Arkansas together right now, 25 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: having a good time being Meat Eater Crew members. Let's 26 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: let the cat of the bag here. Uh, Tyler and 27 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: myself have joined the Meat Eater Crew stuff officially, we've 28 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: been uh working together for a while. We're gonna keep 29 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: doing that and uh, but all the Elements stuff that 30 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: you've seen us do is still gonna be about the 31 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: same as it always has been. We're gonna keep on 32 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: chasing deer around and having fun. And so you guys 33 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: are first of all, that's this is incredible. Um, this 34 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: is great. But just for everybody out there, like everything's 35 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: gonna stay the same, y'all. It's still gonna be pumping 36 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: stuff on the YouTube channel are still gonna be and 37 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: White Tails Pigs doing the Element podcast. You're just uh, 38 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: you're just on the meat of your team now, that's right. 39 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: That's great. Team Clay, Team Clay. That's right. Hey, I 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I kind of no one gave me permission to do this, 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: but like I claim, where I live as meat eater 42 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: south Okay, yeah, but I mean now that you are 43 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: further south than me, you meet your southwest. Yeah yeah, 44 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: I think Yeah. I mean if East Texas is southwest, 45 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: I don't know southwest where you are. It's all about perspective, 46 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: And so is the white tail rut. That is that 47 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: is so across the country, the rut is doing all 48 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. We talked to guys today who have 49 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: every opinion of the rut and we did something weird 50 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: this year. And maybe you have uh insight to this, 51 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: but it seemed like across the country is about two 52 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: weeks late, which is a large discrepancy, uh for you know, 53 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: what's something that's supposed to be controlled by diurnal cycles, right, 54 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: so or however you say it, you know, the sun 55 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and the moon and stuff. So, um, what do you 56 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: think about that? Well, that would be pretty close to 57 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: what I experienced, and I would have attributed it to weather. 58 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: Like the most intense white tail hunting I did was 59 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: the first eight day is of November, and typically in 60 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: the places I'm hunting, that's a really incredible time to hunt, 61 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: and it really wasn't. And at the time we were 62 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: like man, it's it's kind of like it's a weak delayed. 63 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: So that's actually the first time I've heard that. But 64 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: I feel like as hunters, we always have some anomaly 65 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: every year that makes it different, and so like, is 66 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: there really a standard rut? That's kind of my thing 67 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: because we're sure hadn't had one anytime. I mean, you 68 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying that there's always a reason for 69 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: something to be squirreling. Absolutely. I feel like, um, I've 70 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: said this before, but a lot of the white tail 71 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: hunting information kind of radiates from Iowa out in general. 72 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: That's where a lot of the stone Co killers of 73 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: the past lived and killed. Michigan some yet too, But 74 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: those northern Midwest latitudes, I think things are still pretty 75 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: consistent there, but start getting further and further from that nucleus, 76 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: like things get different. And I understand that the weather 77 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: cannot have an effect on a dose extra cycle. I 78 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: get that, um, but it has an effect on perceived 79 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: movement absolutely, and we've seen that this week. Actually it's 80 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: real hot. First time first day we got here and 81 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: didn't see as much as what we probably did today. So, uh, 82 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's almost everything when it comes to 83 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: why tell hun you know, like it's it's such a 84 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say overlooked um detail, but it's it's just 85 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: so commonplace that we just kind of accepted without really 86 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: putting emphasis on, like, uh, maybe paying attention to some 87 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: of the small discrepancies that can make a big difference. 88 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. Wind direction is gonna be a different one. 89 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: First to Mara, we've been having a pretty consistent wind, 90 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: and then now it's going to change in the morning 91 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: and we have to kind of decide what we're gonna 92 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: do with that. Well, I think I think any kind 93 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: of change is gonna be good because up unto this 94 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: point what's been happening hadn't been working. So somewthing changing 95 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: is gonna be good. We needed you to show us 96 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: how to kill deer in Arkansas, man, I might as 97 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: well be hunting white tail deer in Spain. Like this is. 98 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: We are in my home state, which I love, but 99 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: I've never hunted in the delta. You know, we're in 100 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the eastern side of the state, and uh, oh, it's 101 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: just Arkansas is very much so divided, like almost equally 102 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: in half from the northeast corner to the southwest corner 103 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and then the northwest Big triangle for Arkansas is a 104 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: square is for the most part mountainous and the the 105 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: other The other triangle is influenced by the Mississippi River delta, 106 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: so just different. You're familiar much more with the mountainous. Absolutely. 107 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you've told me before this hunt 108 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: that you're really excited about it because you always want 109 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: to get down here? Yes? Um, do you feel like 110 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: you're more adept at hunting the mountain white tails even 111 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: though maybe it's a better hunt down here as far 112 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: as what people can you know? Would consider? Like, are 113 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: you saying would I would? I know that better if 114 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: I gave you five days and said hey, Clay and 115 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: picked the mountains, you would? Yeah? I just I mean 116 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: because we've we've struggled down here in big time. I mean, 117 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: I have just trying to figure out I mean, the 118 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: things that I have deeply ingrained in me in terms 119 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: of topography and cover of what these dey are gonna do. 120 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: These deer don't at all, not even remotely. And so 121 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, uh, I tell I texted Brent 122 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: Reeves and I said, this is like learning a different language. 123 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: It's like, does a deer walk through this stuff? Like 124 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: the deer that I know don't walk through this stuff. 125 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: They go around it. And it's just it's just you 126 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: mentioned several times that you wouldn't call something thick if 127 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: you were back home. Yeah, so it's thicker back home, 128 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. Yeah, I mean, so not to 129 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: get into the weeds. I guess the pun was, but 130 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: the everybody said, we gotta find thick stuff down here. 131 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: And thick is a relative term. I mean, back home, 132 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: thick means like you can't walk through briars. Like down here, 133 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: it's like thick is Donald Trump's hair, Yeah something like, Yeah, 134 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: that's uh, it's relative. You know. At home for us, 135 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: we live in fairly similar habitats yours more mountainous, but 136 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: same kind of right weeds and stuff, right, Like, it's 137 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: pretty similar. And um like, there's stuff that's so thick 138 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: that you don't hunt there because it's not great hunting. 139 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: The deer don't really go up in there very much. 140 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of a it's a monoculture of sorts, you know. 141 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: But here it's really gone more than three yards, yes exactly. 142 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't really have that here you have these little 143 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: pockets of uh cover uh. And I think that's probably 144 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: has to do with the you know, open hardwoods, top terrain. 145 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: That's the that's a hard thing to learn. How to 146 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: hunt bigwood stuff is tough, and you gotta see deer. 147 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: Like right now, I'm walking through the woods and I 148 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: don't have this database in my mind going oh, I've 149 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: killed a deer in the spot like this. Yeah, that's 150 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: so meaningful, so meaningful. And I walked through the woods 151 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: and I go, I don't know if I should hang 152 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: in that tree or not. There may not have been 153 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: a deer walking by this in the last five years. 154 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: You know. That's the woods are the woods anywhere are 155 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: difficult for that reason. I feel like, you know, it 156 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you are if you cannot observe deer 157 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: during your hunts, you're you're learning curve is and we're 158 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: and we're not seeing deer while we're even scouting. We're 159 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: covering big ground that I know of, and and yeah, 160 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, like, we're not just if you're 161 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: if you're sitting and seeing you know, three or four 162 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: deer sightings, you can kind of be like, Okay, and 163 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: and we've probably had that. But I mean, i've seen 164 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: one deer during a hunt on this trip i've been. 165 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: I've seen one deer from a stand. Yeah, so to 166 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: yesterday from the ground walking in the casey hunted it 167 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: from the ground a few times. So I've seen a 168 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: few here, but it's never it's and I saw two 169 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: from the stand first evening and they looked they were 170 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: the color of the woods. I don't know if I've 171 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: seen dear match as good as he's deer. It's wild, yeah, 172 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: strange and so um. That kind of adds a whole 173 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: another complexities to things of like, h just they not 174 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: stick out very good, you know, and uh, they're smaller 175 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: bodied animals and all. This just makes it a little 176 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: difficult something that deer in the South into Dudes get 177 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: real gray in December. I feel like we see it 178 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: in Texas a lot. And um, in this habitat and 179 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: in Texas and other habitats, December is gray and the 180 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: habitat is gray. The dirt is gray. The leaves of 181 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, broken down and they're gray. Like I mean, dude, 182 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: it's hard to see, dear man, it is. You know 183 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: how I knew those deer were there. I heard an 184 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: acorn crunch. That's how I knew that deer was there. 185 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: I heard an acorn crunch, and I was like, what 186 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: was that? Because it's actually was too late for squirrels 187 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: to be out, so I was like, well, that's not squirrel. 188 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: I turned around in fifty yards away they were two does. 189 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: The only way I could I could just see their legs, 190 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, white leg It's all I could see. Um, 191 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, I had a but though I saw the 192 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: night was real light colored, and I still struggled to 193 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: see her. But I was in a little bit lighter habitat, 194 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: was in more of a wetland with that yellow grass 195 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: and stuff. But the only reason I knew she was 196 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: there is like I thought I heard some footsteps and 197 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: she was at That happened not exactly where I thought 198 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: I heard the foots. I heard a little something. I 199 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: turned around. There was deer tonight. It's like, man, crazy 200 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: Clay as a native Arkansas, and um, I'm gonna give 201 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: you the honor of given us a scale of one 202 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: to ten for Arkansas? Is it honorary? Um? This is 203 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility. What do you think the buck 204 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: movement is gonna be going forward, well, I mean back home. 205 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: I would say it would be very low in the 206 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: mountains right now, except for you know this quote unquote 207 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: second rut when some of these funds come back in 208 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: the mid December, which is real and happens. I see 209 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: a little spike buck activity this time of year. So 210 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: it's real, but hard to capitalize on in the in 211 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: the lower lower regions of Arkansas, the flood prone regions 212 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: of Arkansas. This is is the tale, the legitimate tale 213 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: of the main part of the rut. And uh, I 214 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't know that from experience. That's just what I have 215 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: been told. We though have seen. The first day I 216 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: was here, like the first hundred yards that I walked 217 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: was the was the highlight of my week so far, 218 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: when I jumped a bucking a dough and then I 219 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: jumped some other dos and two bucks and so like 220 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: all of dear I saw had dose that I saw, 221 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: I had bucks trailing them. Tonight, coming out of the 222 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: woods after dark, we saw a big buck and a 223 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: doubt well you guys did, and um, yeah, sure enough. 224 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: And uh and so it feels like that we're there 225 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: is some rut activity down here Eastern part of the 226 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: state flood prone regions. Yes, it's so. Did you give 227 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: us the number the whole state? Well, that's what the 228 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: idea is. We're going to be three because in the 229 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: Ozarks would basically be one, and here it would be 230 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: a six, so it would be the average of the 231 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: three six. I like it. I like it, so Tyler, Yeah, 232 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to some other people around the country 233 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: who got a little bit of experience in the woods 234 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: right now who were talking to Yes, sir, we got 235 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: a few people lined up. Lucas Psycho, good friend ours. Uh, 236 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: he's in North Dakota, and the dude kills Big Dear 237 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: every single year, every multiple sometimes it's it's unbelievable, really, 238 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: so definitely worth listening to. Nate Crick from Identical Draw. 239 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: He hasn't been in Nebraska, give us a report there. 240 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: They spent a lot of time there. Brian Shirts is 241 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: a good friend of ours from Texas down local to us. 242 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: He's he owns on Target Archery, which is our local 243 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: archery shop, and they take care of us. They're super 244 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: good people. He's been up in Iowa where he's from, 245 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: has a lot of experience there over the years and 246 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: went and did a d pop hunt that like, they 247 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: shot all kinds of deer on that hunt. And then uh, lastly, 248 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: we had Parker McDonald who's been uh in Alabama as 249 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: he usually is and hunts the many different ruts of Alabama, 250 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: and one of those I think is coming up here 251 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: pretty soon. So we can check in with those guys 252 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: and see what see what those ret movements are. Why 253 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: across sounds good. Hopefully I can get a little inspiration 254 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: as to what to do in the morning, because right 255 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: now I'm at a loss. Let's see if these guys 256 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: got some good ideas. On the phone, I've got the 257 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: one and only Lucas Psicho don't pronounce it keiko. What's up, man? 258 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Appreciate that? Hey, man, it's it's 259 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: going well up here. How you guys doing. We're doing good. 260 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: We we feel like we're cold, but I'm sure we're 261 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: not um compared to where you are because you live actually, 262 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: like on the Arctic Circle. I think it's probably then 263 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: it comes your way first. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on 264 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: the southern edge of the Arctic Circle. Yeah, well you're 265 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: in North Dakota. Been doing some hunting up there, man, 266 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: and it looks like you may have found one. Yeah yeah, yep, yep, 267 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: bumped into one here this past weekend. Um, I've had 268 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: the uh, I've had the last nine days off. It's 269 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: straight to hunt and uh, it's been a while since 270 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: I got to hunt this later season and uh, you know, 271 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: lo and behold, the rut actually wrapped up welt the 272 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: November really it really, I guess it was always going, 273 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: but daylight activity really rapped up that that latter part 274 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: of the rut there. So, um, what a coincidence that 275 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: you mr uh just knows how to hunt deer happened 276 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: to take a late you know, vacation to hunt deer 277 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: in the in the rut ramped up. Did you have 278 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: any insight as to like that was gonna be the way? Well, 279 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: so it was. It was actually the muzzleloader tag. I 280 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: had a muzzleloader tag. I drew it. Spent thirteen years 281 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: since I drew it, So it kind of put me 282 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: in that time frame right there to hunt that that 283 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: that two weeks anyways, So um, but not knowing knowing 284 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: what what I went through this now in this last 285 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: two weeks, it's like I'll definitely push them back a 286 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: little further because we get a lot of the nighttime 287 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: activity in the rut here now through like through November, 288 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: and there was there was obviously them daylight activity you 289 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: know here and there, but it wrapped way up. There 290 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: was way more people talking about bucks running all over 291 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: the place that that right at the end of November, 292 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: first week in December up here. Yeah, that man. We 293 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: saw some similar things really and have talking to people 294 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: across the country on this thing over the last few 295 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: weeks about how the rut you know, really was just 296 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: so different this year than it's ever been. You know, 297 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: it seems like it's it's odd. I don't know what 298 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: the factors are or why that that happens, but how 299 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: how has the weather been like is it Is it 300 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: average as far as like your tamps and stuff like 301 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: that in the last week, Yeah, it's it's been a 302 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: little on the colder side. Okay, we got we got 303 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: into the sub subzero temps here in this last last 304 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: week and a half a couple of times. So does 305 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: that do you feel like the weather has much effect 306 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: on the perceived rut? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Well what I 307 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: what I've seen is any time any time that that 308 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: weather takes a hard dip like that when when generally 309 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: it's not not to be expected, it locks the deer 310 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: up a lot. It just it's just there's just not 311 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: a lot of movement. It's weird. They just it's like 312 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: they just hunkered down and waited out, you know. So 313 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: so when I when I've seen it, it was hitting 314 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: and and deer movement was way low the two days 315 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: that was sub zero temps out there, and uh so 316 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: I stuck it out. I didn't have any choice, you know, 317 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna not hunt. So um, it was brutal. 318 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, it definitely, it definitely puts it puts a 319 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: damper on it. Yeah, that's interesting that that definitely we 320 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: saw the same thing. I saw the same thing in 321 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: Oklahoma during the run as well, or like, we got 322 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: some pretty cold temps and weren't seeing much movement, which 323 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: is interesting for sure. So, uh, you know, I would 324 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: assume that this time of year, you guys are liable 325 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: to have a just brutal weather front at any moment um. 326 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: If that happens in the in the saying the next 327 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: week or so, how would you how would you go 328 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: about trying to kill a buck? You have to get 329 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: super tight to bedding. I guess right, lo and behold, 330 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: we have a massive front moving in right now. We're 331 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: we're supposed it like anywhere from six to fifteen inches, 332 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: you ever take. Sounds like a good time to have 333 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: a field tag right right. It just perfect. Anyways, My my, uh, 334 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: my dad is still after one of the bucks that 335 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: that I was after, you know, along with this one 336 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: that I got, and so um he had. He he 337 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: was just frequent and frequenting the area a little bit 338 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: as well where where I killed this one. And so 339 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: he and I were already going over a game plan 340 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: for hum for tonight, because it's the night before these 341 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: fronts move in. It's it's always fire man like up here, 342 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: if you, if you, and and sometimes the day as 343 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: it hits, as it's hitting, it's good. But then once 344 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: it sets in, it's gonna go dead for the time 345 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: period of it's a will it's here, and then it's 346 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna be that first sixth eight hours after that snow 347 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: stops and it calms down a bit, and then them 348 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna be right back up and rolling again. So 349 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: it sounds like an exciting week, man. So if you 350 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: had to rank it, on a scale of one to 351 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,239 Speaker 1: tea and for buck movement, what would you rank the 352 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: upcoming week? So I'd say this this day and then 353 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: so today tomorrow, I'd say ten, ten to ten, because 354 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: it's it's just everything's gonna be moving today and tomorrow, 355 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: and then then it's gonna take a massive dip down 356 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: to like a two or three for like whatever. However 357 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: many hours twenty four, thirty six hours, while that thing's 358 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: here on top of us, it will take a massive 359 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: dip and then it is gonna fire right back up 360 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: to that that seven eight nine range, probably right that 361 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: first day after it. So um and then in general, 362 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: right now the deer movement is really well because they're 363 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: they're on that bed, defeed, they're they're trying to regroup, 364 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, from from running that rut real hard. So 365 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: it's pretty good. You know, this is trustworthy information, guys, 366 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: if you're listening, this guy knows what he's talking about. Man, 367 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: that is forced you to proof is in the pudding 368 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Man Psycho knocked down big ones every year, So du 369 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: congrats another big buck and congrats on't getting the tag 370 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: field before the sub zero TIMPs. And uh man, I 371 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: hope that y'all have any of firewood stocked up? Oh yeah, definitely. Man, 372 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: definitely appreciate you guys. You know it's always cool. Lucas. 373 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: Thanks Man, see you yep. Thanks on the phone. Right 374 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: now we have got the man, Parker McDonald. He I'll 375 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: tell you what. I will take a sick Parker over 376 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: most guys when it comes to the deerwoods and they 377 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: can find ears. They can find ears, Parker, give us 378 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: the truth. How are you feeling, I'm not feeling too great. Um. 379 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: We'll up this morning at two thirty to go out 380 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: my dad's here. We do a rutcation every single year 381 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: here in Obamma. And um, we've hunted a couple of 382 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: days not seeing a ton. We've seen a little bit, 383 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: but not a ton. And uh woke up this morning 384 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: had the first north wind that we've had and probably 385 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: a week and a half, maybe more than that, it's 386 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: just been rainy and hot here and so we finally 387 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: get this north wind and I'm jacked up going into 388 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: some of these really good spots that I've been waiting for. 389 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: And Uh, I got hit with the kidney stones this 390 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: morning and me and Dad spent from two thirty till 391 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: about seven with me crying on the floor in the 392 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: in the living room, and then he took me to 393 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: the er and I got some pain pain killers. And 394 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: if I didn't have these pain killers right now, dude, 395 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: I'd probably be still on the floor crying. It's about 396 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: the worst. It's about the worst pain you could possibly imagine. 397 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: I I don't know any way to you'll you'll normally 398 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: do a buck movement um to the one at ten. 399 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: And I was about a fourteen on Yale this morning. 400 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: But m M, I'm gonna keep grinding, dude. It's it's 401 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: uh my November rut. I was supposed to be gone 402 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: to Kentucky and Tennessee for sixteen days and I got 403 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: kidney stones then as well, and it knocked me down. 404 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: My my trip ended up being about four days. Mm hmm. 405 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: These are different than the rolling stones, right, yeah, yeah, 406 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: these are very much They don't really win any awards. 407 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: And well, we'll see what else, Sailly we can get 408 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: you to say, since you're on some of your pain killers. 409 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: But uh, let's let's talk about some of the rut 410 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: movement stuff. You know, Alabama's notorious for a late rut 411 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: and probably some interesting rut dates around the state. Um, 412 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: what are you seeing right now? Well, right now, I'm 413 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: seeing all my Facebook memories pop up of all these 414 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: books that I've killed from December one ish and uh 415 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: and so far it just really hasn't hasn't happened. I 416 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: killed a buck um on the second of December out here, 417 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: and he was chasing the dough. But the interesting thing 418 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: about it was he um his tarcels weren't didn't even 419 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: look like they were used. The dough that he was 420 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: chasing was like legitimately trying to get away from him, 421 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: and she still had a faun um I can. I 422 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: can tell you I've planted man, probably seventy of the 423 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: last weeks of the days and yet to see a 424 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: hot dough. I've seen a lot long does. I've seen 425 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: bucks checking scrapes um, smaller deer checking scrapes um. But 426 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, is the biggest This is crazy. 427 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: The biggest deer I have seen in Alabama this year 428 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: is a big frame four point that I saw a 429 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: few days ago. And Man, usually by this time of 430 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: the time of the year, I've got a couple of 431 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: bucks around, if not being tagged out. The last probably 432 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: two or three years I've been I've got all three 433 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: of my bucks in Alabama by this point. So do 434 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: you expect things to change in the next week or so? Here? Man, 435 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: I hope I've been wrong every single time this year. 436 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: Um about when the when it's finally gonna kick off. 437 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: We've had a couple of a little cold ish days. 438 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: When I say cold in the South, I mean you know, 439 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: mornings in the forty degree range and then getting up 440 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: to five or sixty degrees um, And I've thought like, Okay, 441 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: this is gonna kick it off, This is finally gonna 442 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: kick it off. And then we get hit with another 443 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: four days of muggy, hot weather and rain and it 444 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. But um, start Wednesday Tomorrow is supposed 445 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: to be about the same. It's supposed to be, you know, 446 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: fifty degrees and the winds coming out of the north. 447 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday we got a lot of rain coming, but cold 448 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: weather with that rain, and so um, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 449 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: Sunday and then all next week are supposed to be 450 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: like fairly clear and very cold. So I really do 451 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: think that's gonna kick it off. And everybody in the area. 452 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: I know, you guys have talked to a lot of 453 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: people and other states that have seen late ruts this 454 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: year for whatever reason. Um, but you know, typically the 455 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: w m A and and the public area that I hunt, 456 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: by this point, it's produced a bunch of really nice 457 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: here and and you're just not seeing it. There's been 458 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: a couple here and there, but it's just not it's 459 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: not been there. And usually the State of Alabama their 460 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: Facebook page absolutely promote the crap out of this place. 461 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: So going forward, like in the next week, are you 462 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: gonna be are you gonna be just going you know what, 463 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: it's time, the weather's there, We're gonna focus on rut tactics, hunting, pinches, 464 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: those kind of things. Absolutely, I'm I am. Uh, I've 465 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: been doing that. That's the bad thing is I've been 466 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: doing that and just not seeing it. So a couple 467 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: of days ago, got in really really tight to some 468 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: thick bedding cover, like like really tight, and I've been 469 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: holding off on getting that tight. And um, when I 470 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: was walking out, I ended up bumping a buck to 471 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: my dad. He couldn't get a shot, but I found 472 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: I finally found the sign that tells me that it's 473 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: at least close, like big huge at rubs scrapes every 474 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: twenty yards you know that hadn't been hit in a minute, um, 475 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: which to me, I don't know what you guys, how 476 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: you guys feel about it, But whenever those scrapes are 477 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: not getting hit as much or as often, to me, 478 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: it tells me those bucks are are looking for that. 479 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: I hope that's the case because right now I'm seeing 480 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: some of that stuff too, and I just feel like 481 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: they just don't give a hoot. So I like that 482 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: there is some optimism in the future here, man. And 483 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: we know the pain scales of fourteen? Can you tell 484 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: us what the buck scale is gonna be and the 485 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: next week on a scale of one to ten? Man, 486 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: I really think when you get into I think Thursday 487 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: and Friday are gonna be pretty good. But I think 488 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: when you get into that, you know, third day of 489 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: the front and on is gonna be probably the best 490 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: deer hunting that we're going to get to have the problem. 491 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: The problem for me is that we gotta go to 492 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: Florida for Christmas break. I'm like, I'm gonna be out 493 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: there in that cold rain. You know, I'm just with 494 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: kidney stones and all. It's it sucks and it's unfortunate 495 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: that I gotta deal with it, but um, it's not 496 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: a good enough excuse for me to stay home. Well, 497 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: way to be tough, Parker. I can't wait to see 498 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: what you produce. A lot of times adversity makes some 499 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: pretty cool stuff happen, man, So get out there and 500 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: get after. We appreciate the report, man, Yeah, absolutely, Man, 501 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: Thank you guys, and good luck to y'all. Also for 502 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:41,239 Speaker 1: the rest of the season. On the phone, now, I've 503 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: got Brian's shirts from on Target Archery, our local archery shop. 504 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: We love this guy and he shoot some big deer. Brian, 505 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: you've been up in Iowa recently. It sounds like you 506 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: had a pretty good hunt. Yeah, it was, it was. 507 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: It was a great time, he really was. Yeah. So, um, 508 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: I guess, explain what you're doing. You were shotgun hunting. 509 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: I guess. Yeah. It was first shot first gun season, 510 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: which is shotgun or three fifty or four fifty uh 511 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: straight cartridge that you can use legally, or a muzzle 512 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: utter but it has to be a straight wall uh 513 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: type shell yep. Basically a slug gun. You can't use buckshot. 514 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: But but it was in southern I where we're at. 515 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: So you're you're doing drives. I guess yep, we're doing Uh, 516 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: we'd put people on stand and then people would walk 517 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: through the we drive hunt to be walker. We call 518 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: them walkers. So the standards are actually standing or they 519 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: on a like a tree stand or a platform or something. 520 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, we just standing. We stand against a tree. 521 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Basically you're on You're on the ground the whole time. 522 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: So how do you how do you decide how to 523 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: like where the where there is gonna be bucks and 524 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: and how to push them out and everything. Okay, so 525 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: basically what you have is you have a lot of 526 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: agg I mean it's primary agg fields that we're walking 527 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: is in. It's like drainage. Dittess that we're walking is 528 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: heavy timber, really brushy, thick, nasty, crawl on your knees 529 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: through stuff to get through when you're when you're the 530 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: when you're there, we're considered the pusher or the walker. 531 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: And then uh, and then they push those draws and 532 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: they've done it so many years, I mean twenty plus 533 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: years they've done this same. I guess it'd be like 534 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: almost like six farms that that the landowners want us 535 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: to reduce the dear population because it's such a detriment 536 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: to the agg poppet, to the egg that goes on there. 537 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: That's cool, man, So how do you determine what is 538 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: a shooter in that? Are you still trying to go 539 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: and shoot a big buck when that's going on, or 540 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: y'all just meat hunting? Or what's it looked like? It's 541 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: pretty much a meat hunt. Now, we will run across 542 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: some rather large animals because yeah, a few a few 543 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: of those there. Uh, you know, it's just it's just 544 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: one of those things where you're that's so thick, you'll 545 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: walk right by you know, you know, five or six 546 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: year old. But because they've done that so many times 547 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: that they just noticed stay still and guys that know 548 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: how to push push that push it will get them up. 549 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: But like newbies or guys that haven't done it much 550 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: will walk right by the big bucks because they just 551 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: don't understand where they've bet down. I know, this whole 552 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: tight until you walk by. What's the uh the strategy 553 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: on actually getting a shot off? Are you doing something 554 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: to make the animal stop or you're running shots or 555 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: what's that look like? It's a little bit of both. Uh, 556 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: when you're used to shooting the bowl a lot like myself. Uh, 557 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: it takes a little while to to get you know, 558 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: you try to lead them. You shoot way over and 559 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: or way under, you know, way under and a way 560 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: in front of them, because you don't realize the bullets 561 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: gonna get there faster than what a narrow would. So uh, 562 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: it takes a little while. But a lot of times 563 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: they'll actually stop and they'll they'll come into you know, 564 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,239 Speaker 1: because they'll run into a draw and just kind of 565 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: stop thinking, oh I'm out of the pressure now, and 566 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: they'll stop right in front of you. You'll get some 567 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: decent shots that way too, got you. Most most of 568 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: them are there, you know, kind of you know how 569 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: a deer. You spoke them and they'll kind of look 570 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: back at you after you do it, and that's when 571 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: they normally get a good shot. That's where the mess 572 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: up happens for them for sure. So uh kind of 573 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: going forward there then, uh, you know, if is that 574 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: gun season over? Is that still something that's going on 575 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: up there right now? They have the first shotgun and 576 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: then they have a second shotgun, and your second shotgun 577 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: is going on right now? I just got back from 578 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: the first one. If you if you weren't trying to 579 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: do the push thing, and maybe you're a solo guy, 580 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: what's the uh what's the outlook look like for that? 581 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: Are you thinking that you know, hunting evenings or or 582 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: what what's gonna be kind of the key? Well, I 583 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: was I was fortunate enough I have some property I 584 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: can hunt up there, and so we push The first 585 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: two days I went with them and did the whole 586 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: drive thing, and then I set on my own property 587 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: and uh set just like a regular hunter, you know, 588 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: he just basically setting a setting to stand and just 589 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 1: kind of played it. You know, are they gonna come 590 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: to agg fields or you know, come to eating and 591 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But what I've seen was the evenings 592 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: were phenomenal. Uh, the mornings weren't so when you set, 593 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: the mornings weren't that great. I mean there was a 594 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: little bit of activity, but it was just kind of 595 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: getting out of the bed and just browsing around the 596 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: betting areas what they were doing. Yea. But but the evenings, 597 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: they were definitely coming to agg fields. I mean it 598 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: was crazy to see how many were in the fields 599 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: after the hunt. You know, you drive and you see 600 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: them out in the middlefield after shooting legal shooting time, 601 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: and it was just like, oh my god, there's a 602 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: hundred deer out in the cornfield. Didn't was there any 603 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: particular aggs or food source that they preferred? Well, uh, 604 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: a lot of them in the corn fields. Uh, but alfalfa, 605 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: like inn alfalfa field. That was a good alfalfa. Man. 606 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: They were like stacked like cordwood and those really yeah, 607 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: And it was nuts how much how many they were 608 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: in there? Uh, in my particular area. I mean, it 609 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: could be different somewhere else, but it seemed like the 610 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: agg fields and the corn fields and not much in 611 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: the beans. If they were standing beans, you might see something, 612 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: but most of the time the corn that was down. 613 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 1: Of course, on the in rows where they knocked down 614 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: some corn, there's you know, there's corn there. So okay, 615 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: well that's good information. Man. So if you were gonna 616 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: be hunt in Iowa, especially southern Iowa, you're at in 617 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: the next you know, week or so. On a scale 618 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: of one to ten, what do you think the buck 619 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: movement would be? Like? I've talked a lot of my 620 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: friends up there and relatives and stuff, and uh, what 621 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: I see is get on the edge of some agg 622 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: fields and get some funnels. Get those funnels where they're 623 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: coming out to feed on those indros and things like that, 624 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: because that's premium. I mean, they're they're definitely off of 625 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: off of those. Now I would what I see, uh Now, 626 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: the bucks and those were out in the field together 627 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: at night when I was driving around, you could see them. 628 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean after the season was over. It was over 629 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and I went out, Like any any hunter, 630 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: if you go out and look and see what's out there, 631 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, and you're going like, oh my gosh, I 632 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 1: should have hunt it over here. You know, what if 633 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: what if if? Yeah? Yeah, exactly the scale of one 634 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: to ten, what would you give it for the next week? 635 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: Next week, I would say, I would say it's gonna 636 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: be a good solid seven. That's pretty nice, man, exactly. 637 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: I think the pressure will come off on those bucks, 638 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: will come out more because they're I mean, they pushed 639 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: a lot of places push up there, and so after 640 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: they get past this last gunning season, I think they're 641 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: gonna relax and come to feed because they're gonna be 642 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna be held up in the woods. I mean, 643 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 1: because there are feeling a lot of pressure right now. Yeah, yeah, 644 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: well perfect man. Well, thank you for the report, and 645 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: that's good helpful information and we'll be talking to you 646 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: again soon. All right, it sounds good man, good luck. Okay, Here, 647 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: I've got Nate Crick from Identical Drawl. Nate, you've been 648 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: in Nebraska lately? Has it been cold up there? It's 649 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: been pretty cold, but it's also kind of been uh, 650 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess i'd say it's been pretty average 651 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 1: for this time of year in December. Nothing uh, nothing frigid, 652 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: but um yeah, it's been mornings in uh, I mean 653 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: mid twenties and thirties and then it's actually warmed up 654 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: to two forties lately. So yeah, kind of kind of average. Yeah, 655 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 1: and that's uh, I mean, you guys spend some time there, 656 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: so you know, that's that's kind of average. And have 657 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: you had any snow? Um? No snow really yet. We 658 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: have in the mile back, but I think I'm seeing 659 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: some on the forecast, but it's been uh yeah, not 660 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: a whole lot of pre sip. Yeah, So you know 661 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: here in this like second wink of December. Um, I mean, 662 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: what have you been focusing on when you're hunting up 663 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: there in Nebraska, and what should or you know, what 664 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: would you have been trying to kill bucks doing? Right? Yeah, 665 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: So this last weekend I was out Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 666 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: and I actually saw several pre decent bucks. Um. This 667 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: was private land I was hunting. But man, I feel 668 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 1: like after November leaves, everybody kind of forgets about um, 669 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: like kind of the Doe movement and like doesn't really 670 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: care about that much anymore. Which hey, it's definitely less 671 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: than a few weeks prior in November. But man, every 672 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: single buck that I saw, UM was still with some 673 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: does I saw Okay, I saw a couple of spikes 674 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: that were off by themselves, but I saw at least 675 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: a couple UM I saw at least like an eight 676 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: point um and then maybe at eight to ten point 677 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: for they're off and they were actually like falling string 678 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: of dolls still, So that is something to definitely consider 679 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: still this time of the year. UM, and they were 680 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: actually maybe it was maybe it was kind of dependent 681 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: on um where I was hunting, but we were hunting 682 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: pretty close to some bedding cover and I was seeing 683 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: those bucks still following a couple of dolls. That's cool. 684 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: So was that mornings or evenings when you saw those 685 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: bucks with those doughs. I think I saw both in 686 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: the evenings, still had really solid dough moving in the morning, 687 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 1: but I saw both of those bucks moving with probably 688 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: within that last hour of the day. Got you. Were 689 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: they headed to some like agricultural food source or what 690 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: were they? What were they really doing? Yeah, so they 691 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: were in this this area in the brass where I 692 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: was hunting. Is like these bucks, man, all these deer 693 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: just travel a ton um and the sources actually were 694 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: on this property were pretty limited. So yeah, they were 695 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: actually moving quite a way to get to that food source, 696 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: which I think was actually helping maybe get them up 697 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: on their feet a little bit earlier to get to 698 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: that food source. Uh. But yeah, they were, They were 699 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: on their way. Every single time I saw them. They 700 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,479 Speaker 1: were pushing to an act field that was probably half 701 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: a mile or so. Got you, So, if you were 702 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: gonna kind of maybe target Bucks still right now, would 703 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: you be I guess you're you know you mentioned betting cover. 704 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: Would you be hugging and talk to that betting cover, 705 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,360 Speaker 1: especially on the colder days, like you know, because a 706 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: lot of guys burn vacation and stuff during November, and 707 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: then if they don't have a buck tag field, they 708 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: kind of have to pick and choose what days they use. 709 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: So how would you navigate that? Yeah, first, man, if 710 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: I still have a buck tag to feel actually this wintered, 711 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: all right, So let me ask you the question personally. Yeah. Yeah, 712 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna be doing is I'm going to 713 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: keep you waiting for extremely cold tempts um just basically 714 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: as cool as we can get, and then I'm going 715 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: to honestly be be working those travelers, like I always say, 716 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: people during this year, Man, get back to your scouting 717 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: mentality that you kind of have early season, because they 718 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: are kind of beginning starting to get predictable again as 719 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: time you're working the foods worse is a little bit 720 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: more betting in certain areas, more kind of settling down 721 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: from the rut. And so I'm like, man, spend a 722 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: few days really figuring out where that deer movement is centralized, 723 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: and then go hunt it tight like I'm gonna I'm 724 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: gonna get I'm gonna hug that betting cover real tight. 725 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's an aggressive mentality, but I'm still like, man, 726 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: if I only got a few weeks in December to kill. 727 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: To kill a buck, I'm like, I'm gonna I'm gonna 728 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: scout it hard for a few days. I'm gonna go 729 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: in and really try to kill one. So so um, 730 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: as you look forward for the next week here, I 731 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: haven't real looked at the forecast for Nebraska, but you, 732 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: being a current tag holder, I bet you have it 733 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: on your mind. Do you foresee that cold temperature coming 734 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: up in the next week, and what do you expect 735 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: the deer to be doing? Then yeah, it is, Um, 736 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: We've actually got a real good drop Tuesday to Wednesday. 737 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: I think Tuesday's temps are mid fifties and I think 738 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: Wednesday's got a high in the thirties, uh, bringing some 739 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: bringing some north winds. So yeah, Wednesday and Thursday are 740 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: actually looking pretty primo. And then honestly through the weekend, 741 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: which got of course, I've got a bunch of family events. 742 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: But but I'm gonna definitely be hunting um some Thursday 743 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 1: and Friday, just because I know though, those cold temps 744 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: will really get those bucks moving. Um. And like I 745 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: just said, I'm gonna be really primarily focusing in on 746 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 1: where they're getting to that food source from so Okay, 747 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: So if you had to guess, with that cold weather 748 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: coming up in the next week, what buck movement would 749 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: be and make an estimate on a scale of one 750 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: to ten, what would you rank it? Man, I'm gonna 751 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: rank it actually pretty high. I'm I'm talking like probably 752 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: eight or nine out of ten. Yeah, man, I think 753 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be real good marking down for eight point five, sir, 754 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: that's perfect alright. December has been so mild. I'm like, 755 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: as soon as this big tim drop comes, I think 756 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: everything that has been chilling out the last few weeks 757 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: can be moving. So yeah, yeah, they've been getting used 758 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: to that easy stuff. Man, it's right, fix and get hard. 759 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: You know. Well, dude, I hope you do well with 760 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: that tag. It sounds like you have the optimism it takes. 761 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: You just gotta go out there and put it into place, 762 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: and do you know you will? Man? Yep, for sure. Yeah, no, 763 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks guys, all right, dude, thanks, yep. 764 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,959 Speaker 1: I hope that y'all are still in pursuit of white 765 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: tail do because dear season is not over. It's a 766 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: great time of year to kill a big buck and 767 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: It's also a great time of year to capitalize on 768 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: maybe a little less hunting pressure and a little more 769 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: insulation because it's the holiday season and you get to 770 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: eat a lot and go hunt and there's nothing better 771 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: than that, guys. Uh So, if you want a little 772 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: extra inspiration or something fun to do, you should go 773 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: check out uh the newest video on the Element YouTube 774 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: channel where our very own Greg Latham shoots an awesome 775 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: Texas hill country buck on his family place. It's really 776 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: cool hunt self film by him, first self film hunt ever. 777 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: There's also a good article by Mark Kenyon on corner 778 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: cutting winds to kill big Bucks. And then I want 779 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: to make sure and give my special friend here Clay 780 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: a little plug for the bear bear Grease I'm sorry 781 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: Bear Grease podcast. Little podcast out there. Uh Supposedly on 782 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: the day that this podcast, there's also one of the 783 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: most compelling and interesting Beargrease podcasts ever produced will be released, 784 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: So you'll be sure and check that out. I can't 785 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: tell you anything more about it. That's how truck Clay 786 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: treats us. He says you gotta listen, so we'll listen. Um. Remember, guys, 787 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: this is rough fresh, Keep it fresh.