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Speaker 2: Welcomittically the Browns Daily. Let's go right to the podium

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Speaker 2: where your quarterback Deshaun Watson is meeting the media getting going.

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Speaker 3: What are your conversations like during the week to try

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Speaker 3: to jump started.

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Speaker 4: We're just working.

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Speaker 5: We just keep working, keep talking about what we're seeing

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Speaker 5: on tape and what we're seeing on film, how we

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Speaker 5: running certain routes versus different different defenders and different schemes,

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Speaker 5: and that's all we can do is just keep working

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Speaker 5: and when it comes on game day, trying to execute

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Speaker 5: that plan that we build throughout the week, leading the league.

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Speaker 6: And the penalties.

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Speaker 3: So my question is being behind the stacks is often

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Speaker 3: as you bar, how does that curtail what you can do?

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's definitely not the game plan and that's

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Speaker 5: not what we want to be. You know, we just

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Speaker 5: got to credit those go to lock in a little

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Speaker 5: bit a little bit more on the details of you know,

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Speaker 5: the operation, and it starts with that, and if we

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Speaker 5: can clean up that, I think that we can be

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Speaker 5: a lot more successful, especially offensively. But yeah, We're definitely

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Speaker 5: aware of that and we we it's definitely a point

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Speaker 5: of emphasis for this team.

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Speaker 6: Sure, what felt different maybe out there on Sunday compared

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Speaker 6: to you know, the first time out against Dallas? I

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Speaker 6: mean for you just in terms of being comfortable physically,

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Speaker 6: any of that. You know, was there a difference the

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Speaker 6: second time out compared to the first?

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Speaker 5: No, just game too, you know, the more else we get.

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Speaker 5: I think that's for every player. The more comfortable you get,

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Speaker 5: the more free in the game plan, and just each

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Speaker 5: and every game is different. So, like I said, Dallas

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Speaker 5: was was Dallas, And after that Monday, I was passed

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Speaker 5: that one and I was focused on Jacksonville. So there

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Speaker 5: was no different or anything that we did anything differently.

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Speaker 7: So you were much more decisive, and it seemed like

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Speaker 7: you were you were just setting your feet and lend

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Speaker 7: it rip on the first look.

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Speaker 3: Was that point of memphasis.

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Speaker 5: Last week after no just again, just more reps and

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Speaker 5: just getting comfortable with the scheme. That was our first

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Speaker 5: time all of eleven, eleven of us together plus the

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Speaker 5: coaching staff, you know, together calling the place and and

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Speaker 5: just operating in a live setting. So we always a

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Speaker 5: little bit you know, more aware of, you know, where

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Speaker 5: we wanted to go with the ball and the game plan.

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Speaker 5: So you know, it's a definitely opportunity for us to

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Speaker 5: approve this week against the Jets and and just try

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Speaker 5: to build on.

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Speaker 8: That making sure that something like this doesn't happen in

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Speaker 8: the future. Can you sort of explain what you're thinking

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Speaker 8: was on the third and six there instead of just taking, say,

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Speaker 8: I can running the forty seconds run off, kind.

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Speaker 9: Of take us through what you were kind of told

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Speaker 9: to do or what you did do or what you

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Speaker 9: saw on that play.

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Speaker 5: I saw a touchdown, But you gotta give out in

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Speaker 5: a great play, h credit, you know, making a great play.

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Speaker 5: Tell me he did his job of selling the block.

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Speaker 5: We got outside and he ran a corner. The corner

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Speaker 5: popped open, but alan you know, he beat me to

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Speaker 5: my spot to where I wanted to throw it. And

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Speaker 5: that's pretty much it.

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Speaker 3: You said a couple of.

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Speaker 10: Times since you've been here, you you don't have to

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Speaker 10: be as much.

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Speaker 4: Of a game changer.

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Speaker 11: You can be more of a facilitator point guard in

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Speaker 11: your quarterback.

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Speaker 12: On this team.

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Speaker 6: What's the difference in your mind between playing quarterback as

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Speaker 6: a facilitator and being the game gener.

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Speaker 4: Back, it's no different.

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Speaker 5: It's just the way that the game goes and how

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Speaker 13: Mindset between okay, take this check down and.

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Speaker 12: You know, let's see trying to make.

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Speaker 3: A bigger play.

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Speaker 12: No, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't have different mind going to each and every

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Speaker 5: the field being the best player that I could be

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Speaker 3: Important has Jerry been in these first two games and

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Speaker 3: does it feel like you guys are on the same

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Speaker 3: page when it comes to those scrambled situations, feel like

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Speaker 3: you've been able to connect them multiple times.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, He's just been in the right spots at the

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Speaker 5: playing to the final whistle. That's always been my motto

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Speaker 5: since I've been growing up. And yeah, he's just been

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Speaker 9: Elusiveness was really on display in this game. It almost

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Speaker 9: seems maybe even more so than in some other games

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Speaker 9: that you've played here, do you feel like there's just

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Speaker 9: so much more to come with that and that is

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Speaker 9: probably one of your strengths and it's really gonna serve.

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Speaker 14: You well as you move forward.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's always been part of my game

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Speaker 5: since high school, college, even in the pros. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I've always been that type of player to you know,

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Speaker 5: try to make the first two guys missing and get

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Speaker 9: And do you feel like.

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Speaker 15: Sometimes with those situations you just have to they just

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Speaker 15: have to let you be you, and sometimes you have

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Speaker 15: to take the good a little bit of bad with

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Speaker 15: the good because the good is gonna outweigh the bad

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Speaker 15: and you're just gonna make a play.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it it's definitely something that you know,

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Speaker 5: most coaches don't really coach in a sense. It's just

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Speaker 5: kind of letting your guys beauty the guys and and

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Speaker 5: and make those plays and we're gonna take our chances

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Speaker 5: with that. And you know, sometimes there's certain situations you

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Speaker 5: gotta be smart, but you know, at the end of

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Speaker 5: the day, you know, I've always told Kevin, you know,

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Speaker 5: wanting to never go against my instincts and gut feeling.

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Speaker 5: So and I would definitely have so much respect from

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Speaker 4: It was coach O'Brien.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't feel passing numbers or down e even guys

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's because too high defense? Is that

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Speaker 12: What do you think there's that?

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Speaker 5: Uh, it's definitely the too high defense, you know, I

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Speaker 5: think that might have been an emphasis for a lot

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Speaker 5: you know, with a lot of DPIs and you can't

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Speaker 5: so it's harder for them. So you know, they try to,

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Speaker 5: don't get those opportunities. So at least that's what I

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Speaker 3: You take with that, do you still have to try

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you gotta be smart with it.

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Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing is really just you got

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Speaker 5: you got to be very selective and when those opportunities come,

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Speaker 5: you got to capitalize on them. But until then, you

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Speaker 5: just got to keep taking And it might be a

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Speaker 5: it's it's gotta you know, you gotta kind of play

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Speaker 5: that game, that chess match with the defensive coordinator that

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Speaker 5: can still be there, even.

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Speaker 8: Though you know David Joker is unlikely to play this

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Speaker 8: game and you and tomorrow are still be trying to

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Speaker 8: find your way, can you still hit those explosives that

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Speaker 5: Of course, we have a lot of guys that can

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Speaker 5: be exposive. You know, we're not not just one or

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Speaker 5: you know that's our mentality, that's my mentality. Whoever's on

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Speaker 5: the field, whoever gets open, you know, you catch the ball,

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Speaker 5: get the ball to you and let's made those plays.

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Speaker 3: Go the sixty play drive to start that game. But

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Speaker 3: how much of a testifatience is it when the defense

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Speaker 3: isn't giving up those big plays, so you have to

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Speaker 3: go methodically down the field in that try to force something.

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Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, you just gotta lock in.

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Speaker 5: That's that's what they're banking on, is the offense turn

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Speaker 5: it over, getting a sack, doing something crazy to to

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Speaker 5: But if we can continue to do that, you know,

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Speaker 5: the biggest thing you gotta get in shape. You gotta

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Speaker 5: make sure you're locked in on each and every play

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Speaker 5: so you know, you know, you don't have those mistakes

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Speaker 4: Is banking on and hoping that you do.

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Speaker 5: And if you can get points on those long drives,

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Speaker 5: it definitely helps the whole team. It helps the defense

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Speaker 5: and let them kind of get their win back and

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Speaker 5: let them make their adjustments and then we get points.

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Speaker 5: That helps us, you know as a whole Bold in your.

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Speaker 13: Career that way, where I mean, when you're coming to

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Speaker 13: the league, probably in college of high school, you probably

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Speaker 13: feel like no one can tap me.

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Speaker 12: I can make any play, and you kind of have

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Speaker 12: to learn the league.

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Speaker 2: To take the easy ones.

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Speaker 4: I've always been like that though.

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Speaker 5: I've always been the mentality that I can make every play.

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Speaker 5: So I don't think that changed, or I don't think

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Speaker 5: I've changed that mindset since I've came into the league

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Speaker 5: to now. I think it's always been the same for me.

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Speaker 4: Do you think.

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Speaker 11: Maybe because there's maybe less of the ability to throw

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Speaker 11: the ball out of you and the numbers are kind

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Speaker 11: of down, has the standard of what a what an

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Speaker 13: Maybe looks like changed a little bit or at least

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Speaker 13: what people kind of consider that. And you know, people

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Speaker 13: obviously reference twenty twenty for you when you live in

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Speaker 13: the league of passing, But is it not necessarily just

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Speaker 13: like hitting those marks with yards and all that as

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Speaker 2: As it used to be.

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Speaker 5: anything you know, you can get kind of you know,

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Speaker 5: lot of great quarterbacks out there that might not have

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Speaker 5: the stacks that certain guys do, but they win games,

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Speaker 5: you know, And I think in this league it's about

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Speaker 5: winning games. You want to get to that ultimate championship.

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Speaker 5: Twenty twenty, I had the best you know, a couple

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Speaker 2: edition of play leb brown Say. They are hot, hot

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Speaker 2: mid September, first Friday for you out there kids, Get

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Speaker 2: what do you make of Dewan Jones on there at knee.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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Speaker 16: Remember he left last week's game for eleven plays, came

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Speaker 2: for about the last three or four years down there,

442
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Speaker 2: and I just wonder, like, I don't know, I'm I

443
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: think they were success Flacco came out of nowhere. Nobody

444
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 2: thought Flacco would play the way he played here. No,

445
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Speaker 2: So I don't that's in play. I'm just saying, I

446
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 2: don't know. Like in the last couple of years, is

447
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Speaker 2: he still was he still solid?

448
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Speaker 10: Uh?

449
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Speaker 16: The last two years he was nine and eleven as

450
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Speaker 16: a starter, but then he in Tennessee was on its

451
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Speaker 16: way down. He had the three years prior to that,

452
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Speaker 16: he was thirty and thirteen as a starter, and the

453
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Speaker 16: three years prior to that he threw twenty two fifty

454
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Speaker 16: five seventy six touchdowns and twenty seven picks. So could

455
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Speaker 16: he still play? I think they got They just got

456
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Speaker 16: bad around him over the last few years, Trown. You know,

457
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Speaker 16: if he goes to Miami and he's dealing with can

458
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Speaker 16: he still throw the ball accurately?

459
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Speaker 2: Yes?

460
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Speaker 16: I mean his last he has not completed thirty six

461
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Speaker 16: sixty four percent of his passes since twenty fifteen. I

462
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Speaker 16: mean sixty four, seventy sixty five, sixty seven, sixty five,

463
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Speaker 16: sixty five. So yeah, I definitely think you can play

464
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Speaker 16: over seven yards per attempt. Still, Yes, I definitely think

465
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 16: he could play, and I think that offense he could.

466
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Speaker 16: He could absolutely do very very well in that offense.

467
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 16: Tannehill's looking for a situation where he can come in

468
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Speaker 16: and be the starter for the rest of the season

469
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Speaker 16: to what has gone on IR. He's expressing a desired

470
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Speaker 16: return a competition that might not be the case. Maybe

471
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Speaker 16: they're not the right fit for him. This is just speculative.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you rarely see a quarter like I said, you

473
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Speaker 2: rare to see a quarterback going on IR unless it's done.

474
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Speaker 2: And you rarely see anyone go on IR with concussion

475
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Speaker 2: because there's a protocol to it. So this speaks to

476
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Speaker 2: the severity. But I what you said off the top

477
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Speaker 2: is what I assume is happening, which is there is

478
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Speaker 2: dialogue taking place that centers around are we sure that

479
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Speaker 2: you can still play football and that ever to ever

480
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Speaker 2: play football again? Yeah? They you know, And I said,

481
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Speaker 2: it's look again, certainly not a neurosurgeon, but it does

482
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Speaker 2: feel like there are different varieties and degrees of concussion,

483
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Speaker 2: and it feels like when he has one, it's def

484
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Speaker 2: con one right out of the gates.

485
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Speaker 16: It just body responds to these differently than we've all

486
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Speaker 16: seen people get concussions of many, many many.

487
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Speaker 2: These These are like out of a horror movie disturbing. Yeah, yes, yeah,

488
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: so that's the way I read it as well, was

489
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Speaker 2: that that we're going to take some time and make

490
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Speaker 2: sure that this is long term the right thing for him,

491
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Speaker 2: and that's first and foremost, and then under that is

492
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Speaker 2: Miami because it's already made team that And again this

493
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Speaker 2: is why your Tannehill example is a great one. You

494
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Speaker 2: talked about that a couple of weeks ago, and would

495
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Speaker 2: make all the sense of the world because that, like,

496
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Speaker 2: that's a playoff team I had I picked and win

497
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Speaker 2: the division with two I thought they'd win the division.

498
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Speaker 2: So that's out of the mix. That's not going to happen,

499
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine. But they still have an incredible roster

500
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Speaker 2: and somebody like Tannehill or even like Claco paratrooping in

501
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: here last year, you can be great in that spot.

502
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's twofold on that front. The other thing

503
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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about was the Pro

504
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Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame list, the finalist list, which came

505
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Speaker 2: out today and we have some guys on it, Cribs

506
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Speaker 2: on it again, obviously Clay on it again. But I

507
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Speaker 2: heard Riz talking about this on RBS, and I would

508
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Speaker 2: not have had this, and none of the guys on

509
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Speaker 2: RBS had it either. And that was the fact that

510
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Speaker 2: Brian Mitchell is second in NFL history and total yardage

511
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Speaker 2: from scrimmage, behind only Jerry Rice from scrimmage or I

512
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 2: think that's factoring, is kick returns it is? Yeah, it's

513
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: got to affecting that into yeah. Yeah, So you're talking

514
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Speaker 2: about just yard yards second in yards total only Rice

515
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: is more though it's I understand, but it's still that's

516
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: longevity that you have to have it. Like I wouldn't

517
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Speaker 2: have had it in a second of all time in

518
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: total yards. I would not have had it. So Brian Mitchell,

519
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Speaker 2: he's at twenty three thousand, three hundred and thirty totally.

520
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: So he was in the league for thirteen seasons because

521
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Speaker 2: he has fourteen thousand kick return yards.

522
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Speaker 16: Yeah, he's got He's got five thousand punt returns, Yeah,

523
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Speaker 16: fourteen thousand.

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Speaker 2: Kick return twenty three thousand total yard all purpose yards, yeah,

525
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Speaker 2: twenty three And that's something it is. I mean, I

526
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Speaker 2: knew that his longevity was there. He was so great

527
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Speaker 2: in Washington and then Philly career. He's got like basically

528
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Speaker 2: it's four thousand yards from scrimmage from scrimmage. Yeah, it's

529
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Speaker 2: all returns. But I mean he's I'm not saying he's

530
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Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, but I'm just saying that's a

531
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Speaker 2: statistical anomaly to have a career that long, and the

532
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Speaker 2: fact that he was still of such a viable return

533
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Speaker 2: man in both the punt and the pick game at

534
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Speaker 2: thirty five, Yeah, still doing it.

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Speaker 16: And he had thirteen career return touchdowns, nine of them

536
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Speaker 16: were punts, and he had sixteen career scrimmageuchdowns, twelve rush

537
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Speaker 16: for receiving one time, one time All.

538
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Speaker 2: Pro, second only to Hester on the return touchdowns. Yeah,

539
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Speaker 2: not a Hall of Famer. Was just an incredible career.

540
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Speaker 2: I would think that Cribbs shorter career. I think Cribs

541
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Speaker 2: was probably Cribs for sure. Cribs was three.

542
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Speaker 16: Time Pro Bowl, one time All Pro, and on the

543
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Speaker 16: All two thousands team. I don't know if you have Mitchell.

544
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Speaker 16: Mitchell might not even have been on the All.

545
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Speaker 2: Mitchell was All Pro three times team first, I was

546
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Speaker 2: second first.

547
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Speaker 16: Cribbs would be one first, one second, three Pro Bowls

548
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Speaker 16: and the All two thousands team.

549
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Speaker 2: It's uh, he was the All two thousands kick returner. Yeah,

550
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Speaker 2: that's awesome, quite awesome.

551
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Speaker 16: Yeah, nothing from Brian Mitchell. Didn't make any All Decades teams,

552
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Speaker 16: but yeah, very.

553
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Speaker 2: Very good player. Yeah. The one that will be the

554
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Speaker 2: point of contention will be Eli Manning. Not a Hall

555
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Speaker 2: of Famer. I think he's going to get in. I

556
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Speaker 2: think he's going to get into, but I don't think

557
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Speaker 2: he's a Hall of Famer.

558
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Speaker 12: Yeah.

559
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, can you be a Hall of Famer

560
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Speaker 16: and have a sixteen year career and never be an

561
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Speaker 16: All Pro?

562
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Speaker 12: No?

563
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Speaker 2: I wonder if that applies to quarterbacks in the Hall

564
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Speaker 2: of Fame though, if there are any quarterbacks in the

565
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame who are not who have never were,

566
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Speaker 2: never All Pro, first Team All Pro? Could looked that up. Yeah,

567
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Speaker 2: Stevie g Man. G g Man, Hey, uh yeah, let

568
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Speaker 2: me know four times a Hall of Famer who is

569
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Speaker 2: who did not make All Pro? He never at any

570
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Speaker 2: point Hall of Fame quarterback who had never who never

571
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Speaker 2: made All Pro.

572
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Speaker 16: I'm gonna even add this, never made All Pro, never

573
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 16: led the league in passing, never led the league in

574
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Speaker 16: passing touchdowns, never led the league in completion percentage, never

575
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Speaker 16: led the league in quarterback rating. Thrice led the league

576
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Speaker 16: in interceptions, once led the league in sack percentage.

577
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Speaker 2: Well, this is any like a five hundred quarterback and

578
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: almost have as many touchdowns as interceptions. But he's exactly

579
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: a five hund quarter backers one hundred and seventeen one

580
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: hundred and seventeen sixty percent completions, fifty seven thousand yards,

581
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Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty six touchdowns, two hundred and forty

582
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Speaker 2: four picks in eighty four ratings career. Just has the

583
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Speaker 2: two the Super Bowl super most dominant teams. Yeah. Ever, yeah,

584
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Speaker 2: I don't think who is the I don't think so either.

585
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so either. I think he will get in.

586
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Speaker 2: I'm just curious, Like I'm wondering who has a similar

587
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: Philip like was Philip Rivers is probably the same draft classes,

588
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: probably maybe has a better Halloway, trying to think of somebody.

589
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: I bet he does. I'm sureing to think of somebody

590
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: who had a who had more well you know, who

591
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: had it, who won championship quarterback. I'm looking for a

592
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: quarterback who is in the Hall of Fame, who never

593
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: was an All Pro or never wasn't yeah, never All Pro,

594
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: who was never All Pro?

595
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Speaker 12: Never?

596
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm guessing there are some because you can

597
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: only name one like was top Was Troy Aikman an

598
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: All Pro? Ever I would doubt it. I wouldn't think so.

599
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: Average Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 16: This is ProFootball Reference does this as kind of a

601
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 16: you know, their Hall of Fame monitor. They have him

602
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:18,479
Speaker 16: as twenty second amongst all quarterbacks, below what their normal

603
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 16: threshold would be. Matt Ryan and Philip Rivers are both

604
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 16: well above him. Russell Wilson's even above him on this.

605
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 16: Matt Stafford is just below him.

606
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Speaker 12: He's so.

607
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Troy Aikman was never an All Pro. He was,

608
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: he was in the Pro Bowl six times, but he

609
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: was never an All Pro, so that's still more. Yeah,

610
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: he did lead the league in completion percentage one year,

611
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: Troy did. Yes, he was once top five and MVP voting,

612
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: which never happened with with Eli. No, yeah, I don't

613
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: think he is, but I think he'll get in eventually.

614
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 2: But he's not a first ballot, that's nonsense.

615
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

616
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner, Kurt Warner was a two time MVP. Kurt

617
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Speaker 2: Warner is like here's one Warren moone. Kurt Warner is

618
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: one of the hardest ones you could do yeah, because

619
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Speaker 2: he also was benched in New York forty Eli Manning. Yeah,

620
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: and then had the recent you know, the renaissance. Actually

621
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: the Rams ran him out, to remember, they went Bolger.

622
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: They ran him out Mark Bolger.

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Speaker 16: Sure, it's an interesting I mean, in terms of the

624
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Speaker 16: Hall of Fame Monitor, the two guys that are the

625
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 16: lowest on the Hall of Fame Monitor by a mile are.

626
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Speaker 2: Troy Aikman and Jim Kelly.

627
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Speaker 16: Jim Kelly five time Pro bwler, was a one time

628
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 16: All Pro, did lead the league completetion of cent one year,

629
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Speaker 16: did lead the league in passing touchdowns one year and

630
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Speaker 16: one year, was one two twice Top five and MVP voting.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing that you can do with Jim Kelly,

632
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: and I don't think you can do it with Troy Aikman,

633
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Speaker 2: and I don't think you can do it with I

634
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: know you can't do with Eli Manning. There was a

635
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: time in Jim Kelly's career where if you were it's

636
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: like the old sports bar debate, you could make an argument.

637
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: You could walk in and go I think Jim Kelly's

638
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the league. Like in the early nineties,

639
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: you could have gone in and you wouldn't have been

640
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: laughed out, you wouldn't have been laughed out of the building.

641
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: And there was never a time with Eli where you

642
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: would say he was the best quarterback in football, like,

643
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: at no point, at no point.

644
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Speaker 16: No Philip Rivers. And as I'm just without even looking

645
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 16: at his thing. So Philip Rivers eight time Pro Bowl

646
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 16: one two, twice in the top five for MVP voting

647
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Speaker 16: twice three times, three times in the top five to

648
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 16: four Offensive Player of the Year voting, led the league

649
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 16: in completions, once, led the league in passing touchdowns, once,

650
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 16: led the league in passing yards, once led the league

651
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Speaker 16: and rating once.

652
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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think either one of them are led

653
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Speaker 2: the league in by the way yards pert tempt three

654
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: different times. So Rivers is probably better. He's better candidate.

655
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Speaker 2: But you also can't ignore the two Super Bowls with Eli,

656
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Speaker 2: and he does have those.

657
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Speaker 17: So the cousin of the cousin of Mo Pedman is

658
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Speaker 17: in here. Yeah, and he says Len Dawson, but he

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Speaker 17: was not He was All AFL. But that's not all pro.

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Speaker 2: I would go, Yeah, Dawson's a two time All Pro.

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Speaker 2: Tess says he was a two time first team All.

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Speaker 16: Pro, two time first All Pro, and sixty six was

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Speaker 16: second team All Pro and sixteen sixty four.

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Speaker 2: First tell your cousin to do some better research. Two

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Speaker 2: All pros twice and to All Pro two second team

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Speaker 2: All pros. Yes, that's what we just said. No said,

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Speaker 2: I gotta have it got.

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Speaker 16: By the way, he also led the league in completion

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Speaker 16: percentage one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight times.

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Speaker 16: He led the league in passing touchdowns four times. He

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Speaker 16: led the league in quarterback rating one two three.

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Speaker 17: There was no merger till nineteen seventy, though, so this

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Speaker 17: wasn't NFL.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing? This is some NFL? This is

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Speaker 2: this is a super Bowl. There's what are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: There was a Super Bowl. Listen, the man is from

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Speaker 2: a Lion monfre this is this is the guy started

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Speaker 2: playing in nineteen fifty seven. You only want to count

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Speaker 2: what he did from seventy on. By the way, he

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Speaker 2: was also in that stretch of Pro Bowler top six

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Speaker 2: in the MVP and led the league complete percentage. Cousin

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Speaker 2: of Pedman, this is the pride of Alliance Ohio, who

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Speaker 2: is also in the most iconic Super Bowl. Most iconic

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Speaker 2: half t and you want to be smirch, You're just him.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to happen in this program. I'll be

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Speaker 2: damn Anti Anti Anti Stark Ohio. My god, we live

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Speaker 16: He's just so proud about his bee in streets Borough

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Speaker 16: everything else in this great state.

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Speaker 2: We will, we will meet the we'll meet the giants.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I wish the cameras were rolling in the commercial.

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Speaker 2: We were almost assaulted.

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Speaker 16: We were almost assaulted for defending Ohio and defending Stark County,

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Speaker 16: Dark County. Yeah, we're not going to have it on this,

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Speaker 16: not on this, not on this program, not on this program.

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Speaker 12: Nope.

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Speaker 2: Time to meet the Giants coach by Brian Davile. We're

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Speaker 2: familiar with him fifteen and twenty and one, his third

717
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Speaker 2: years the coach. Third with the Giants, spent two seasons

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Speaker 2: as our offensive coordinator from nine to ten. The Brown

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Speaker 2: lead the all time series twenty eight, twenty two and two.

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Speaker 2: The last meeting we won in twenty twenty twenty two. Six.

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Speaker 2: Last time out, the Giants lost to Washington twenty one

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Speaker 2: to eighteen. For more on the Giants, Duck Dizy. So

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Speaker 2: this is not a great football team. They are zero

724
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Speaker 2: to two. They struggle at a great many things.

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Speaker 16: If you look at them, here we go on offense

726
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Speaker 16: right now, two hundred and seventy two yards per game,

727
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Speaker 16: twenty fourth in the league. One hundred and one point

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Speaker 16: five rushing twenty second in the league, passing yards one

729
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Speaker 16: seventy point five to twenty fourth in the league. First

730
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Speaker 16: downs per game sixteen, twenty third in the league. They

731
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Speaker 16: are good on third downs though, ninth forty two percent conversions,

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Speaker 16: red zone TD rate fifty percent tight for tenth, average

733
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Speaker 16: time possession twenty seven minutes, twenty fourth points per game.

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Speaker 16: That's a big one, twelve point zero thirty first in

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Speaker 16: the National Football League. Are they better defensively, No, Twenty

736
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Speaker 16: sixth yards per game, total twenty eighth against the run

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Speaker 16: one hundred and sixty three yards per game. And in fact,

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Speaker 16: running backs alone just pulled this one up one hundred

739
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Speaker 16: and forty yards on five point and fifty point five

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Speaker 16: yard receiven they go to one hundred and eighty nine

741
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Speaker 16: point five total yards per game to the running back position.

742
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Speaker 16: And they face Washington and Minnesota. It's not like they

743
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Speaker 16: faced to juggernaut rushing football teams. Thus far, they have

744
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 16: allowed conversions on third down forty one percent of the time.

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Speaker 16: That's twenty third in the league. They've given up their

746
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Speaker 16: only fourth down. They're they're not a great They're not great,

747
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 16: not a great team. They've given up the third longest

748
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Speaker 16: opponent kick return average this year, the seventh longest opponent pier.

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Speaker 16: This is not a great football team. They're led, of course,

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Speaker 16: by their quarterback, Danny Dimes. And you know Gibe loves

751
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Speaker 16: to throw hot seats around. I think Dables, I think

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Speaker 16: that whole operations on the hot seat right now.

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Speaker 2: Including head coach, GM quarterback, all of it.

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Speaker 16: Danny Dimes on the season fifty four percent completions, three

755
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Speaker 16: hundred and sixty four yards passing, two touchdowns, two interceptions,

756
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Speaker 16: sixty six point six rating.

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Speaker 2: What's amazing about this is.

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Speaker 16: Malik Neighborslie Neighbors has one hundred and ninety three yards receiving.

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Speaker 16: He's actually fourth in the NFL with one hundred and

760
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Speaker 16: ninety three yards receiving. But again, they've thrown for three

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Speaker 16: sixty four he has one hundred and ninety three bo

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Speaker 16: is that one hundred ninety three more than half of

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Speaker 16: state school.

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Speaker 2: But I believe, so believe that is correct. You have

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Speaker 2: that correct. Molik Neighbors is over fifty percent If there

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Speaker 2: was ever a.

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Speaker 16: Game employee implore this football team to just double him

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Speaker 16: everywhere and let anybody else catch the football. They're tight

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Speaker 16: ends this year. You know what, Their tight ends have

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Speaker 16: two catches for twenty one yards.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.

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Speaker 16: It's basically drop back and throw it to Milik Neighbors.

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Speaker 16: And then against Washington last week they ran the ball

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Speaker 16: well singletary sixteen carries ninety five yards five point nine

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Speaker 16: to carry, had a touchdown as well. On the season,

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Speaker 16: twenty six runs one hundred and thirty two yards, five

777
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Speaker 16: point one and a touchdown. They've got a veteran offensive

778
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Speaker 16: line with Andrew Thomas, John Runnyon, John Michael Schmidt junior,

779
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Speaker 16: Greg Van Roten and Jermaine Illuminoor. So they've got a

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Speaker 16: veteran line there. I think we can get them, especially

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Speaker 16: on the right side line they've struggled so far Van

782
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Speaker 16: Ruten and Illuminoor.

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Speaker 2: Defensively, not fully done with this yet, but they've here's

784
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Speaker 2: a crazy set. Last week.

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Speaker 16: They had five sacks against Washington YEP. Three defensive backers,

786
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Speaker 16: no Tibodau, Nobody on the defensive front had a sack

787
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Speaker 16: in Week one against them. Jade Daniels, by the way,

788
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Speaker 16: was twenty three of twenty nine to seventy nine percent

789
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Speaker 16: in that one. They're allowing quarterbacks to complete seventy nine

790
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Speaker 16: percent of their passes for the season one hundred and

791
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Speaker 16: five point five ratings, so this would be a nice

792
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Speaker 16: game to see a very efficient passing attack. Upfront, They've

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Speaker 16: got Dexter Lawrence, a two time Pro bowler. He's got

794
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Speaker 16: a sack so far the season. Their big acquisition was

795
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Speaker 16: Brian Burns. Traded a second rounder and a fifth rounder

796
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Speaker 16: and swap fifth rounders with Carolina to get him. He's

797
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Speaker 16: a two time Pro bowler. He's at at least seven

798
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Speaker 16: and a half sacks in five straight seasons. Twelve and

799
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Speaker 16: a half was his career high back in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 16: He does not yet have a sack with the Giants.

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Speaker 16: So they've got some good off ball linebacker. They've got

802
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Speaker 16: Bobby Okereke who's played very well this year. Micah McFadden

803
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Speaker 16: made his debut last week, had occur high thirteen tackles,

804
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Speaker 16: he had a sack, and then their secondary has been dreadful.

805
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Speaker 16: They've got Cordeale Flott, their third rounder out of LSU,

806
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Speaker 16: who so far the season has allowed a one hundred

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Speaker 16: percent completion rate and a one hundred and fifty eight

808
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Speaker 16: point three rating in coverage, so they can't get any

809
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Speaker 16: higher in either regard. They've got a Dori Jackson who's

810
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Speaker 16: allowing a one hundred percent completion rate. They've got Deontay

811
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Speaker 16: Banks who's allowing a one hundred percent completion rate. Those

812
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 16: are their corners, so it feels like we should be

813
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Speaker 16: able to complete the ball when we throw it.

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Speaker 2: On their corners.

815
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Speaker 16: They've got young safety Drew Phillips, and then they've got

816
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Speaker 16: Jason Pinnock who had a great game last week two sacks,

817
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Speaker 16: two hits, nine tackles, two tackles for a loss, but

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Speaker 16: even he allowed one hundred percent in coverage and one

819
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Speaker 16: hundred and thirteen ratings. So not a great football team.

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Speaker 16: There's a reason they're one of the worst in the league,

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Speaker 16: and the Browns certainly should be able to deal with

822
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Speaker 16: them very very well.

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Speaker 2: A lot has been made of the fact that Daniel

824
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Speaker 2: Jones has thrown more pick sixes since then touchdowns since

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Speaker 2: his time in getting that new deal with the Giants

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Speaker 2: just four touchdowns in the last two years from Dan Dimes.

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Speaker 16: But last out of me. Yeah, one and seven go,

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Speaker 16: four touchdowns, eight picks. Yeah, as you just pointed out, Yeah,

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Speaker 16: so that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: But then you say to yourself, well, what the hell

831
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Speaker 2: would make them give him one hundred and sixty million

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Speaker 2: dollars guaranteed? And I'm going to tell you what made

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00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: him And it was the twenty twenty two season at

834
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Speaker 2: age twenty five, when he led them to a nine

835
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Speaker 2: to six and one record, kind of out of nowhere.

836
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Speaker 2: He completed sixty seven percent of his passes thirty two

837
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Speaker 2: oh five, fifteen touchdowns, five picks. That doesn't even tell

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00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: the whole story. He ran for seven oh eight and

839
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Speaker 2: seven touchdowns on the ground, yep, at age twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So he has this year. And it's easy now to say, well,

841
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Speaker 2: how stupid to give Daniel Dimes that type of money,

842
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: But if you put yourself in their shoes last year

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Speaker 2: or in that year in twenty twenty two, what choice

844
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Speaker 2: do you have? He was trending like he was trending up.

845
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Speaker 16: His completion percentage hit in proved everywh year he has

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Speaker 16: the best, the yardage bounce back to a crush high

847
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Speaker 16: like all of it, best touchdown in he had the

848
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Speaker 16: lowest interception rate in the entire NFL that season. And

849
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Speaker 16: then yeah, you mentioned what he's able to do with

850
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Speaker 16: his legs as well, seven to eight and seven back

851
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Speaker 16: in that twenty twenty two season, just he kind of

852
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Speaker 16: hit it at the right moment.

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Speaker 2: And since then, you know, to be fair, last year he.

854
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Speaker 16: Was limited to six games, he still completed sixty seven

855
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 16: point five percent of his passes, two touchdowns, six picks.

856
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Speaker 16: This year it's fifty four point three percent in the

857
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Speaker 16: early going, two touchdowns and two picks.

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Speaker 2: So that was Day Bowl in twenty two, Dabel was

859
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Speaker 2: there for. That was Dable's first year. And then it's like, oh,

860
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: so he's clicking with Day Bowl. We're vibing. This is

861
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Speaker 2: all good. And then since then, it's been a lot

862
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: of crashing out. It's been a lot of crashing out. Yeah,

863
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: there's been a lot of that that's been happening. So look,

864
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Speaker 2: Mo Pedman's cousin was crashing out. He almost crashed out

865
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Speaker 2: in there. Almost did keep him under control.

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Speaker 12: Out.

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Speaker 2: G Man can do it. G Man's like Gibbey's bouncer.

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Speaker 2: You're a bouncer. Yeah, if if it gets out of

869
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 2: line over there, it gets out straight out, thrown out,

870
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Speaker 2: handle it crashing out is well, his oldest isn't old

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00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: enough yet. That'll come. We're doing inside scouting for third

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00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: and fourth career. He'll know, he'll know. Yeah, there you go.

873
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: There it is h quint essential quench quint essential giant.

874
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: Other than Lawrence Taylor is whom for you? So I

875
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: hated with all of my passion? What was his name?

876
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: Bert Jim Burt. He's going to hurt Joe. He hurt Joe.

877
00:41:59,040 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: So I hated him.

878
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, when you said Lawrence Taylor, I honestly think there

879
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 16: are a couple of people that pop into my mind

880
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 16: plastic bursts.

881
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeremy Shockey, Yep straighthand Wilbur Marshall. Wilbur Marshall was

882
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: a Bear. Do I have?

883
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 12: Who do I?

884
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: Who am I thinking of? You're thinking of? There was

885
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: a Marshall who was on the line for the Giants.

886
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 2: Their linebackers were Banks, Banks, Pepper Johnson and Lawrence Taylor

887
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: were the linebackers. Was it Leonard Marshall was on the

888
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: defensive line with the Giant. Leonard Wilbur Marshall was a

889
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 2: linebacker for the Bears on the eight five Bears. Yeah,

890
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: my bad, my bad. Uh yeah, Joe Morris, Phil Morris,

891
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 2: Jeff Hostetler, Yeah, great mustache, markaro quits essential giant. I

892
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: think of the Parcels ones most. I know they won

893
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: two Super Bowls with Coughlin, but they just when they

894
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 2: would show up on your television in the eighties, and

895
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: it was Parcels just looked like the quintessential giant coach

896
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 2: and there was and Lawrence Taylor was so fearsome, and

897
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: then they just hurt quarterbacks. You mentioned Joe with with

898
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Jim Burt, and then LT got Joe Thaisman on Monday

899
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: Night Football. Both of those were either Monday Night Football

900
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: or one might have been a Sunday National game with

901
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: the summer all Madden. Did you see the quote from

902
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: LT recently? That's how they were. If he slept at night,

903
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: how good he could have been. That's the qualifier. I

904
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: think it's amazing that he stays committed to like the

905
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: lightning bolt earring, It's unreal. Yeah, two years of lightning

906
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: bolt earrings. Who he is? Like at some point, I

907
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: don't know that's who he is. Yeah, now I'm with you.

908
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: I think that that's probably those are kind of the

909
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: ones I think though, that is those mid to late

910
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 2: eighties early nineties Giants.

911
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 16: Is David Tyree the greatest if you could say, like

912
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 16: any the biggest one hit wonder in the history of music,

913
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 16: is he the greatest one play wonder in the history

914
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 16: of football because of how improbable, important and irrelevant he

915
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 16: is largely but that play was as improbable as it

916
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 16: gets so and so important.

917
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: Usually when you think of the most more NFL history,

918
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: if it's the Immaculate Reception, it's it's it's frank O

919
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: Harris catching Harris, you know what I mean, Like the

920
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 2: play that Joe makes to Dwight Clark, it's Dwight Clark

921
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 2: catching it. It's Joe throwing it. So yes, off the

922
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: top of my head, I mean, I think of Nick

923
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: Foles and Philly Philly. But that's a half.

924
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 16: But he also had a year where he was going

925
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 16: a starting quarterback and was like twenty seven touchdowns, two

926
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 16: picks with Chip Kelly.

927
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: There was a corner that won the Larry Brown won

928
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl MVP when the Cowboys beat the Steelers

929
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: in like ninety five, and he was never anything after.

930
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: But he had two picks in the Super Bowl, including

931
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 2: a pick six. There's a few of those out there,

932
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: but it's really rare. Timmy Smith probably had the running

933
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: back for Washington when they won their third Super Bowl

934
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: or second of third, had like a Super Bowl record

935
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: for rushing yards in a game, So they're there.

936
00:44:58,840 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

937
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: But in terms of an individual play, yeah, that is

938
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: one of the more improbable plays in NFL history and

939
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: what it meant historically, No, I can't think of one

940
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: to beat an undefeated team. To beat an undefeated team,

941
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,959
Speaker 2: and they should have had Eli sacked a hundred times,

942
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: one hundred times. Ronny Harrison should have knock the damn

943
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: thing down. I mean I caught it with this the

944
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: forum and his helmet. It's nuts that that part is now.

945
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: I yeah, it's up there. There's I can't think of it,

946
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: like right, said fred I dropped that on the boys

947
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: like a month ago. No, you did it. I did

948
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: what they think, couldn't believe it, loved it. Uh No,

949
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: I thought it was weird. Didn't understand. They don't get right,

950
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: said fred I said that would change. You did have

951
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: a lot of or I said this. I think it

952
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: would change if you saw the video like how absurd

953
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: it is, rather than just listening to it, But no,

954
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955
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956
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: all of that stuff, But right said, Fred.

957
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Speaker 12: Did not travel.

958
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Speaker 16: Very happy now to be joined by one of the

977
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Speaker 16: heroes of the Browns win over the Jacksonville Jaguars, punter

978
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Speaker 16: Corey bullhork As. And it's probably not often that you

979
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 16: get that type of an introduction, right, one of the

980
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 16: heroes of the game, the punter, So that you know,

981
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 16: you did something very special down there.

982
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: Let's just go through. And Ashby was just with us

983
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: a second ago and he was.

984
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 16: Saying, you know, you were holding it a certain way,

985
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 16: you knew what it was going to do. That what

986
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 16: is kind of the mindset or what are you trying

987
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 16: to get the ball to do? Obviously it did a

988
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 16: plus plus plus scenario, but what are you trying to

989
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 16: get the ball to do on a punt like that?

990
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Really, you want to.

991
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 14: Force a fair catch in that situation, especially you know,

992
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 14: really short field, it's very easy to get it into

993
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 14: the end zone from there.

994
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 12: So really the thought.

995
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 14: Process is, let me get this up and get this

996
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 14: return of fair catch this between the five and ten

997
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 14: yard line and let the defense do their thing. And

998
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 14: you know what, sometimes it carries a little farther than

999
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 14: you want it to and the returner lets it go

1000
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 14: and you get lucky and.

1001
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: It checks up and you get a safety. So you

1002
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: and I talked about this after the game. On the

1003
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: golf course.

1004
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 16: There are certain ways that you can hit the ball

1005
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 16: to try to impart more spin on it to get

1006
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 16: that kind of check.

1007
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: In punting, you hit your.

1008
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 16: One ball, you know, the big beautiful spiral that you

1009
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 16: can hit seventy eighty yards. But you have a lot

1010
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 16: of different balls that you can hit. So is there

1011
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 16: a type that, yes, even if he doesn't catch it,

1012
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 16: I'm pretty sure this one's not gonna bounce forward or

1013
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 16: is it? Are there just too many factors involved to

1014
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 16: know exactly how the ball is going to contact the.

1015
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 14: Earth, so you can give yourself a chance. It's what's

1016
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 14: called an Ausie punt. It was kind of brought over

1017
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 14: to the NFL back in the nineties by Darren Bennett,

1018
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 14: was a big you know, Ozzie rules player. Came over

1019
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 14: Chargers Vikings for a long time and I actually used

1020
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 14: to work with them.

1021
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: Back in high school. Really yeah, great that come about.

1022
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 14: I went to camp down in San Diego area with

1023
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 14: Michael Houston and he was doing more of the kicking

1024
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 14: side and Darren was doing more of the punting side,

1025
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 14: and just connected with him at the camp and work

1026
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 14: with them a couple more times.

1027
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 16: So you are always destined to be a punter. That

1028
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 16: was like you knew as a even in high school.

1029
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 16: You're like, I'm gonna be a punter.

1030
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: That's that's what I do.

1031
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I didn't really start playing till my

1032
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 14: junior year, and that was just to get out of

1033
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 14: soccer practice at the time.

1034
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 16: You know, just wait to I did cross country one year,

1035
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 16: which sounds ironic to get out of basketball conditioning because

1036
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 16: basketball conditioning was too much running relative to cross country.

1037
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: Anyway, Sorry for getting you sidetracked. You get an Ozzie punt.

1038
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 14: Yeah, so basically, you know, it's a back spinning punt

1039
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 14: that gives you a higher chance of it checking up

1040
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 14: like that any of those. A lot more that goes

1041
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 14: into it if you get it to kind of come

1042
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 14: more straight down versus going down at.

1043
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: It four you know angle, so to speak.

1044
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 14: And with a short field like that, you can kind

1045
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 14: of play it to be more up and down and

1046
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 14: get it to hopefully check up like that doesn't always work.

1047
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 16: But yeah, so I'll use a golf analogy again, and golf,

1048
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 16: you know, there are guys that can hit four hundred

1049
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 16: yard bombs and then they're the guys who are like

1050
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 16: the masters with the wedges right. And sometimes a four

1051
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 16: hundred yard bomb can be very satisfying, but then you

1052
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 16: might mess your next shot up. But when you hit

1053
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 16: it where you got a gimme, which is in essence

1054
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 16: what you did right there that control. Is that more

1055
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 16: fun to you to hit that punt than when you

1056
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 16: hit and you've hit an eighty yard punt in your

1057
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 16: card than hitting an eighty Yarderah, think about it.

1058
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 14: Because of the situation and kind of what it led to,

1059
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 14: what it meant for the game, that's going to be

1060
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 14: a lot more satisfying. Like, yeah, hitting the ball seventy

1061
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 14: yards is fantastic. Se turn around and run to go

1062
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 14: get it. You know, personally that's great, but you know

1063
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 14: it did help the team in that game. But I

1064
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 14: think this had a much bigger role in that team win.

1065
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 2: I gotta go with the short.

1066
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 16: One, all right, take me to the sideline because Bubba

1067
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 16: Ventrone great friend of this program. I love Bubba, very

1068
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 16: intense guy. I have to imagine you almost have to

1069
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 16: come to the sideline and be like, I gotta protect myself.

1070
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: He might just come like hit me. He's so excited.

1071
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: It's a good thing I wear pads because he would

1072
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: have just knocked me down. He probably wants to get

1073
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: the helmet on. We all know that we've seen him

1074
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: in the post games. So when you think about just

1075
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 2: kind of in your career, where would you rank that punt,

1076
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: given the moment and given how just aesthetically pleasing it

1077
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: is to do something so awesome.

1078
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 14: I think with what the situation in the game, that's

1079
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 14: probably gotta be the best of your career.

1080
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1081
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,879
Speaker 14: I mean when we played the Steelers two years ago

1082
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 14: on Thursday Night, there was a somewhat similar situation. You know,

1083
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 14: Ball went out at the four, which is great and everything,

1084
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 14: but you know, it's the Steelers, especially that year, they

1085
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 14: weren't very good. Like they weren't going sixty yards. You know,

1086
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 14: let's be real.

1087
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 2: But uh so that was a very dramatic game. We'll

1088
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: just leave it at that. Yeah, And you know, and

1089
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: that was great for that situation. But with getting the

1090
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: safety after this one and giving us you know, was

1091
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: a five point lead, like you know, if that's a touchback,

1092
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: you know, probably not getting the safety from the twenty,

1093
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: you know, maybe, but who knows what the outcome is.

1094
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: And that was a big game. You know, you're owing one,

1095
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: you're going down. That's a massive game.

1096
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 14: They would have only needed a field goal. Their kickers

1097
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 14: got a big leg, they were going with the wind.

1098
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 14: You know, who knows how it would have turned out.

1099
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 16: Speaking of kickers, I have your You have the best

1100
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 16: seat in the house, right you're the holder. You have

1101
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 16: a very important job. Get the ball, get it down

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00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 16: after Charlie gets it to you. I saw a stat

1103
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 16: yesterday that honestly blew my mind. Justin Tucker is zero

1104
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 16: for two from fifty plus. And this is not to

1105
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 16: make a comment about Justin Tucker, but the rest of

1106
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 16: the league, not named Justin Tucker is thirty five for

1107
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 16: thirty seven from fifty plus through two weeks of the

1108
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 16: NFL season. That is not even it's so unprecedented. There

1109
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 16: is in another sample side seam close, what is going on.

1110
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 16: Everybody's just walking out there booming fifty yarders, including our

1111
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,959
Speaker 16: guy d Hop who's two for two, like it's nothing.

1112
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 14: I think the potential has always been there, I mean,

1113
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 14: that's part of being an NFL kicker is being able

1114
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 14: to do that for sure. And I think with what

1115
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 14: these guys are getting paid now, teams are like, you're

1116
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 14: gonna go or in that check and are taking those

1117
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 14: longer field goals that they might not have before, you know,

1118
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 14: And I mean, I don't know what the average win

1119
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 14: margin is in a game, but you know, field goals

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Speaker 14: can help.

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00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: It can, But I mean, it was think about it.

1122
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 16: Taked Hop for example, before he became a Cleveland Brown,

1123
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 16: he was fifteen for thirty from fifty yards in his career.

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00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 16: He's ten for ten with us. The percentages over the

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00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 16: last year's is just around the league astronomical. I don't

1126
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 16: know if you got a chance to watch on the

1127
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 16: plane Sincy and Kansas City last week, which had a

1128
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 16: wonderful outcome for the Cleveland Browns. They got down to

1129
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 16: a fifty three yard field goal and basically just kneeled

1130
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 16: it three times. And we're like, we're we don't even

1131
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 16: get fifty three. Forty three doesn't even matter, and Butcker

1132
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 16: put it right there.

1133
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: Just to me, it's just wild. I don't know what

1134
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: they're doing, but whatever it is, it's working. There's no

1135
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: doubt about it.

1136
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 16: And I think they would say, you know, my fifty

1137
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 16: eight yardfield goal, that's great, but what you just did

1138
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 16: with that, we'll call it the sand wedge with the

1139
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 16: spin right there, is even more impressive.

1140
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1141
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 14: I mean, just glad I could contribute. You know, we

1142
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 14: would have been good with Dustin going to kick it too.

1143
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 16: But you know, is that one of the moments where

1144
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 16: I had imagined kind of you know, you and d

1145
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 16: Hop and Charlie hang out pretty much, the three of you,

1146
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 16: and for the most part, like you'd have to imagine

1147
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 16: you have to either be something bad or maybe a

1148
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 16: return gets broken, you lay a big hit for like

1149
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 16: your other teammates to really be like, yeah, man, awesome,

1150
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 16: right Were they fired up on the sideline as well?

1151
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: Was that where you were like, oh, yeah, I'm more

1152
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: than just a punter right now.

1153
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 14: You look at that on part of the team. Yeah, yeah,

1154
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 14: I mean everyone was super excited. I think everyone kind

1155
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 14: of grasped what it meant for the game, and then

1156
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 14: it just led into the defense getting the.

1157
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: Safety and I mean, guys just going crazy.

1158
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: I'll have you know.

1159
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 16: Alex Right was on Browns Daily on Monday and before

1160
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 16: he said anything about that play, he gave you props

1161
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 16: for making it possible. So it's yeah, the complimentary football, right,

1162
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 16: That's what it was.

1163
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, you know glad I set them up to do.

1164
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 16: Is then what do you want to accomplish as this

1165
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 16: season goes forward for you personally in terms of how

1166
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 16: you want to hit the ball, things you want to do,

1167
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 16: or what you expan should be in their minds when

1168
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 16: they see you come out there over the next few weeks.

1169
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 14: Uh, just working on being more of a finesse punter.

1170
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 14: You know, with the new kickoff rules, the starting lines

1171
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 14: a lot higher than what it used to be, so

1172
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 14: you get into what we call that gray area a

1173
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 14: lot faster. You don't have so many backed up punts

1174
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 14: like you used to do, so you can't just hit

1175
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 14: the ball sixty five yards because it might be going

1176
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 14: ten yards deep.

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00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 10: You know.

1178
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: That's fun.

1179
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, but you know some of Michael just don't like

1180
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 14: touchbacks very much. So, but yeah, just working on that,

1181
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 14: playing clean, smart football, setting up the guys to you know,

1182
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 14: the gunners make tackles if they have to, but hopefully

1183
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 14: force some fur catches so they don't have.

1184
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 2: To do anything.

1185
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 16: Corey, thank you so much for the time. Enjoy the

1186
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 16: great moment. And I know we're onto the giants now,

1187
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 16: but what a punt that was.

1188
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: It was awesome. Thank you.

1189
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 12: I appreciate it.

1190
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: HI, good stuff from Z and Corey on that we

1191
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: will guess the scores with Doctor Z coming up. Lext

1192
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: you're listening one in one record so far we're off

1193
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: to a good start. We're listening to Cleveland on a

1194
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Speaker 2: fifty esp and Cleveland.

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1201
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: com time for week three of guests the scores and

1202
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: for that we bring on Doctor z uh winner in

1203
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: week one, loser in two. In a strange start to

1204
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 2: the season, as the scores would lead you to believe,

1205
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: and know.

1206
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 16: It's been tough. It's been tough to get the line.

1207
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 16: It's tough sledding. All right, We're gonna do what we

1208
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 16: can this week.

1209
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 2: Are you ready? I don't know. I think you are.

1210
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 2: I think you are? You primed? You look great in

1211
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: that baby blue baby. You know what Beamsy? You know,

1212
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: Beamsy's the one who's big on the branding and all

1213
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: that stuch and he has struggles with things that don't

1214
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: make sense to him when it comes to branding. Yeah,

1215
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: he goes. I wonder if the Browns a longtime baby

1216
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 2: blue and brown?

1217
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: Why not?

1218
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 12: I know? Yeah?

1219
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, toughs is the tough or baby blue and a

1220
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: dark day be wonderful? Which is pretty clean, very pretty clean?

1221
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 12: All right?

1222
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: You ready? Thursday night? I am Patriots at the Jets

1223
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: on Thursday night football Pats and Jets. Jets minus seven?

1224
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: What do you have to be within a half point? Yeah,

1225
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: that is incorrect. Jets minus six, Jets minus six. All right,

1226
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 2: we are on to Sunday. Our game is on.

1227
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 12: Here is our game on yep.

1228
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: Okay for the New York Football Giants at your Cleveland

1229
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: football Brown Browns minus seven, got it? Browns minus six?

1230
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 2: All right, one o'clock window remains. This is my six,

1231
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: only six and a half. Sorry, you know what, I'll

1232
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 2: talk to game.

1233
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 13: This is on me.

1234
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 2: I didn't put these in the right order, all right,

1235
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: all right? I can just go off the thing, all right,

1236
00:57:54,360 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: Green Bay, Green Bay? Will Levis? Who's what will he

1237
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: do this week? Will he punt the ball backwards? Will

1238
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: it kick a field goal on first down? Who's starting

1239
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 2: for Malik Willis? They think Love? Maybe? Though right now,

1240
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I haven't seen that this week.

1241
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: Did you guys see something different? Since I he returned

1242
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: to practice this week in the practice field, Love practiced, Yeah, yeah, wow.

1243
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: I still think we're a week out green stunning Green Bay.

1244
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: I would tell you, I don't think for what your purposes,

1245
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 2: this does not appear to be that they believe Jordan

1246
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 2: Love is gonna play Green Bay minus five and a half,

1247
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: Tennessee minus two and a half. Excuse me, Tennessee minus

1248
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 2: two and a half, Tennessee. It's in nash Tucky minus

1249
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: two and a half. The signs, hold the Levis signs.

1250
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: I know it is that trust me, all right, Green Bay.

1251
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: That's insane.

1252
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 4: I know.

1253
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: That's why I tried giving you the hint. It's it's

1254
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 2: very clear that he's that they think that Malik Willis

1255
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: is playing, and that that's the problem I thought that was.

1256
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: I would well, it's just one ind I'm with you.

1257
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't understand he's terrible. I don't understand it. I mean,

1258
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 2: if you I would lock that in now now, yep,

1259
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: Bears at Colts. Bears, come on, yellow Stone, get off.

1260
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Not with that kid slinging it around. Colts minus two

1261
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: and a half, Colts minus one crushing it. I love this.

1262
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: You got time, plenty of time. These are weird numbers too,

1263
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: so I would agree. I don't know the problem with

1264
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: that statement, Like what's with the one, one and a half?

1265
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 2: I think they got one. I think that maybe they

1266
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: were being criticized for too many that were two and

1267
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: a half, three, four and a half, six and a half,

1268
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 2: like because they're all over all right. Houston at Minnesota,

1269
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: Houston at Minnesota US Bank Stadium, Battle of undefeateds. This

1270
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: has got to be the uh let me see here

1271
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: is this the This is your Davis Evan Washburg, OK,

1272
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: Houston minus two and a half, gondered exactly, good job you,

1273
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 2: uh staying at one o'clock. Now we're on Fox. This

1274
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: is the Eagles and the Saints, the one and one

1275
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: Eagles and the two and oh New Orleans Saints, who

1276
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: all they do is score touchdowns on every single drive,

1277
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: they score points. Eagles at Saints the Malcolm Jenkins Bowl,

1278
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Speaker 2: Saints Jouncey Gardner Johnson too right, didn't you go from

1279
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: the Saints?

1280
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 12: I think so?

1281
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Saints minus three? You got it, Saints minus two

1282
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: and a half. Back to even Stephen goojevit you uh,

1283
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 2: this is your nance Romo game. I needed that Jets game.

1284
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: I should have got you gonna should be six and

1285
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: a half.

1286
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 12: Fine.

1287
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 2: We are in Pittsburgh. This is your Nance Romo game.

1288
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: This is the one o'clock on CBS. It is the

1289
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: Chargers at the Steelers Herbert dog Water and Harball. Yeah

1290
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: sounds like Herbert's Ago Chargers minus one and a half,

1291
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh minus one. Staying in the one o'clock windows, the

1292
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: surprising Tampa Bay Buccaneers hosting the Denver barncas Gross. This

1293
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 2: is a b ISAs gross. Tampa minus six, Tampa minus

1294
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: six and a half.

1295
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 4: Got it.

1296
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,439
Speaker 2: We are in the four o'clock widow now, my friend,

1297
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Speaker 2: and we are in Las Vegas. It is the Andy

1298
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: Dalton led Carolina Panthers zero and two at Vegas, Vegas

1299
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Speaker 2: minus six and a half, Vegas minus five and a half. Ah,

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Speaker 2: Nothing says loving like a good.

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Speaker 12: And a half.

1302
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Speaker 2: Why why is it not?

1303
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 12: Why?

1304
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I don't know. I don't know what

1305
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: five and a half gets you. Still in the four

1306
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: o'clock window. This is Miami with a Skuyler Thompson at

1307
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: quarterback in Seattle. This has gotta be the furthest possible

1308
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: flight in the league. Seattle minus six and a half,

1309
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: Seattle minus four. It's Skyler Thompson. It's Skyler, aren't they

1310
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: They are? They are at home. That's right, four America's

1311
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: game of the week. I have no feel for this.

1312
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: Tom Brady game. It's, by the way, has called nothing

1313
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: but Cowboys games. Oh that's right, because he did it one. Yeah,

1314
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: you're right. Third in a row Cowboys ad the Ravens.

1315
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: This is Cowboys and Ravens in big d.

1316
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 16: Ravens at OZ and two is going to be one

1317
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 16: of them by one or two. So I'm going to

1318
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 16: say Dallas Becas are at home by one and a half.

1319
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: Baltimore minus one and a half. At least I knew

1320
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: that was one one and a half. All right. We

1321
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: are in Los Angeles the team of your youth, the

1322
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers at the l A Rams.

1323
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 2: Who's left for the Rams? Who can walk? Niners minus

1324
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: seven got it exactly, job to you. Time to rally.

1325
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: Detroit at Arizona, the red hot Kyler Murray led Cardinals

1326
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: didn't even have to play, didn't have to throw it tomorrow.

1327
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: After the first quarter they were so good. Detroit minus

1328
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: two and a half. Got it barely Detroit minus three,

1329
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: but I was almost gonna be right there. You're right there,

1330
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: get back so you can still win. Chiefs at Falcons,

1331
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: Kansas City, Chiefs at Falcons Falcons from Monday night to

1332
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: Sunday night. Sunday Night football. Yeah, a lot of betting

1333
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 2: that Cousins would look aesthetically pleasing. Chiefs minus three and

1334
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: a half got it exactly. What a job out of you?

1335
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: The rally is on all right here? You go, double

1336
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: header on Monday night? Why come back weeks?

1337
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 12: Why?

1338
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: I don't know why we're running it back. We're doing

1339
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: double headers. I don't get it. Well, you go seven

1340
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: thirty at eight fifteen. Why not play one at six

1341
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: and one at nine. Who gets hurt with a six

1342
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: o'clock start? Nobody? Why I have one of these at

1343
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: seven thirty? So stupid seven thirty ESPN the early Monday

1344
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: night er is the Jacksonville Jaguars at your Buffalo football bills,

1345
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo football bills. God all day drinking in the parking

1346
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: lot in Buffalo. He'll be all looped up. Jackson was

1347
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: what one in eight in the last bills seven minus

1348
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's number seventeen seven minus one of six. One

1349
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 2: of the signs signs six. One of the signs six

1350
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: is the sign k Dalton Kincaid, Kate Kate is the

1351
01:04:54,520 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: sign Bill's six bills minus five. You're gonna go to

1352
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: one and two Bill's minus improvement. Kid. Now you go

1353
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: to five. Here you get to five hundred. This is

1354
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: Washington at Cincinnata. This is an eight to fifteen. So

1355
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: this is kicking forty five minutes after the other game.

1356
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: This one is kicking. This one's on ABC and ESPN plus.

1357
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: Will this one outrate the other one because of the ABC?

1358
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: I don't think it will.

1359
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 17: I don't we were talking about today. I don't know

1360
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 17: which broadcast team is getting because the other broadcast team

1361
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 17: is Fowler Orlovsky.

1362
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: And uh Riddick. I would think that they would go

1363
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 2: Bill's Jaguars would be the money crew. Well, no, I

1364
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 2: mean the other one's on ABC. Yeah, Commis and Bengals.

1365
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 2: It's weird these two games aren't flipped that the Bengals

1366
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 2: and Commies aren't at seven thirty, and Jacksonville and Buffalo

1367
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: is not at eight fifteen, because that's the better game,

1368
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: and I think that's the one you'd rather have on

1369
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: ABC is the other one. So I would think that

1370
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: you would have Buckan Aikman on the eight fifteen game

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01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: and you'd have the other crew on the ESPN game

1372
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: because you want ABC. So I think that's probably what

1373
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: you'll do. But it makes no sense to kick forty

1374
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: five minutes apart on a network where you own both

1375
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: of the channels. Either way, all these I've been c hosting.

1376
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 16: I've been half high on all of these, So I'm

1377
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 16: gonna go low and it's gonna end up being seven.

1378
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say, since he minus six, since he

1379
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: minus seven and a half, since he minus seven and

1380
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 2: a half, I'm gonna defend my boy. This is a

1381
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: weird start. I bet you will. It's a weird start

1382
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 2: to the league. It's strange, the lines are strange. You

1383
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 2: and I have been doing this for how many years?

1384
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: We're off to a slow start on the scores. Yep,

1385
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: it's this is a strange time right now in the league. Kids,

1386
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: It's very very strange time. It's a very strange. I

1387
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell is going on. It's a

1388
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: doc time. Be sure to catch the Browns. Previous show

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Speaker 2: dot com. And now we head to the podium. Your

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Speaker 2: head coach, Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 18: Okay, getting our work week started here on the New

1402
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 18: York Giants. Uh, you know, one on one football team

1403
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 18: versus an own two football team, but that O two

1404
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 18: is very misleading to me. They lost at home in

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01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 18: week one, which obviously we lost at home in Week one,

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01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 18: and then they go on the road and they play

1407
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 18: good enough to win and had some extenuating circumstances with

1408
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 18: the kicker. So I think we know the team that

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01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,439
Speaker 18: we're facing. I have a ton of respect for coach

1410
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 18: day Ball his entire coaching staff. So we got to

1411
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 18: play our best football and that's really what we're focused on,

1412
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 18: is trying to play one game better, play one game

1413
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 18: better than last week, and incrementally have improvements throughout the season.

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Speaker 12: So that's our focus. But with that, I'll take any

1415
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 12: questions knee.

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Speaker 6: Injury to Dewan. First off, they occurred during the game,

1417
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 6: and secondly, what what is his status for this week?

1418
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 6: Is this I'm sure you're going to say day to day.

1419
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Speaker 18: The words right out of my mouth. Yeah, he's an

1420
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 18: injury occurred in the game. He's out today, but can't

1421
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:39,719
Speaker 18: really go past today.

1422
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: Ye can jet.

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Speaker 18: Practicing today, So we'll see, I think and I understand

1424
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Speaker 18: the questions, guys. I would just tell you with any injury,

1425
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 18: you have to concern yourself with that day, how they

1426
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 18: feel in practice, how they feel coming out of practice,

1427
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 18: those type of things.

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01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones, you know, was a liking rod during New York.

1429
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: Just what do you see from.

1430
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 3: Him when you watch him on film?

1431
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 18: Yeah, can hurt you in a bunch of different areas. Obviously,

1432
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 18: can make all the throws from the pocket. But he

1433
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 18: is a very, very dangerous runner. We've all seen it

1434
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 18: over the course of time that he is a threat

1435
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 18: with the ball in his hands, and they're utilizing him.

1436
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 12: The utilized them in this last game. It's a big

1437
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 12: part of what he does.

1438
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 18: But he can also make every throw and they have

1439
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 18: legit speed on the perimeter, so it's a very difficult

1440
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 18: attack the.

1441
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 3: Whole end of the game. Do you run it or

1442
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: do you try to get the first down.

1443
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 12: In the game?

1444
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 18: Well, I think four minute football. These games are so

1445
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 18: close at the end, right, so it's two minutes for

1446
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 18: the offense trying to go down and score. Sometimes it's

1447
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 18: four minute where you're trying to protect a lead. That

1448
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 18: was a four minute situation for us, So we ran

1449
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 18: it on first and second down, didn't get enough yards

1450
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 18: to get into a manageable third down, So now you're

1451
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 18: trying to make sure the clock.

1452
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 12: Is rolling in those instances.

1453
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 18: But there's plenty of times in games where you have

1454
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 18: to make a decision in terms of how aggressive do

1455
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 18: you want to be do you want to try to

1456
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 18: go end the game right then and there? To your point,

1457
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 18: Mary kay, and I think that maybe came up in

1458
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 18: a one of the primetime games recently. So those are

1459
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 18: all decisions that you make based on the down and distance,

1460
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 18: based on the play that you maybe have available to.

1461
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 3: You a fresh set of downs. What is the value

1462
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 3: to an offense when you can consistently run it, specifically

1463
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 3: when it's need two or.

1464
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 18: Three to be able to run it into well, I think,

1465
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 18: and you guys will talk to coach Doris this week,

1466
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 18: but Doris has a great way of putting it. He

1467
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 18: talks about the offense being in the green, having advantageous

1468
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 18: down in distances and first and ten is in the green,

1469
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 18: and then second and I think six or less in

1470
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 18: the green for the offense, meaning the offense has the

1471
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 18: advantage second and tent is a tough you know, is

1472
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 18: a red you know, or maybe it's a yellow, but

1473
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 18: not advantageous to the offense. So when you're in the

1474
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 18: green for a big portion of a drive. You're staying

1475
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 18: at a third down. You're getting explosives on first and

1476
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 18: second down, whether it comes via the run or the pass.

1477
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 4: Two big team to crow to leave.

1478
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: They're throwing it shorter than they have and for a

1479
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 3: really long time. Have you noticed that and is that

1480
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 3: a product of some.

1481
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 18: High safeties or white I saw that there was a

1482
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 18: good article yesterday I saw on that. Yeah, I think

1483
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,799
Speaker 18: it's it's definitely the The increase in two high safeties

1484
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 18: is a big part of it. The decrease in man,

1485
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 18: the increase in zone defense I think factors into it

1486
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 18: a size early in this season. So, but I do

1487
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 18: think that you're seeing more of the defense play a

1488
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 18: too high look, which can be a variety of coverages,

1489
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 18: but that protects you in theory versus some deeper shots

1490
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 18: and maybe makes the ball be thrown into some checkdown

1491
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 18: areas more often than the three deep, where you can

1492
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 18: maybe rip a seam, rip a go ball, those type

1493
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 18: of things.

1494
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 3: Visus evolution to what we saw the last few years.

1495
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a good question.

1496
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 18: I think there's definitely an evolution going on every year

1497
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 18: in football, and it's something offensive football is changing that motion,

1498
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 18: I think is one thing that is totally different than

1499
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 18: it was ten years ago. Go and sometimes I do this,

1500
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 18: go put on tape from ten years ago, and the

1501
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 18: quarterback maybe's under center on third and six and there's

1502
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 18: no motion. If it is motion, it's super slow. People

1503
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 18: are just lining up in two by two, three by one.

1504
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 18: It just doesn't look like the same game. On the

1505
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 18: defensive side, every defensive end is in a three point stance.

1506
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 18: Nobody's rotating late in the shot clock, and then there

1507
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 18: was a lot of man and closing the middle of

1508
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 18: the field. So I think it's both sides. It's change

1509
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 18: and evolve as a response to the other side. So

1510
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 18: I think it's constantly ongoing. But I would say for

1511
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 18: this season it's probably a little early and a small

1512
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 18: sample size to make too many proclamations, if you will,

1513
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 18: volume of.

1514
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 10: Holding calls that have been called against you. When did

1515
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 10: cackling defensive end to become legal? And going back and

1516
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,759
Speaker 10: watching some of those matchups that if Miles gets stuck

1517
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 10: with it seems like teams search is very aggressive.

1518
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 12: You want me to get fined? Is that what you're

1519
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 12: doing there?

1520
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 18: I would say this, I have a conversation with the

1521
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 18: officials before every game, and I talk about our number

1522
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 18: ninety five. He knows that he gets extra attention, he

1523
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 18: gets chips, he gets a slide to him. Officials are

1524
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 18: gonna miss calls, but we expect, we expect when there's

1525
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 18: an obvious one, we expect it to be called.

1526
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 6: OK.

1527
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 12: Thanks guys, there you go.

1528
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: We talked about that earlier in the week, kind of

1529
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 2: the Shaquille O'Neal thing with Miles, where like, are you

1530
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 2: gonna call everything and the reality is called something. My feeling,

1531
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 2: as it was with Shack back in the day, was

1532
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: if you established right away that you can't do that

1533
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 2: both ways, Like unfortunately for Miles, there's not even the

1534
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 2: other side of it, Like Shack could always punish the

1535
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 2: defensive player. We just running him over. Yeah, that a lot.

1536
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 2: Miles can't really do that in that sense and and

1537
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 2: get away with it where you both ways, it really can't.

1538
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: Like the holding is a holding, it's not cool. Be like,

1539
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 2: if you let Miles what's what's a defensive line penalty?

1540
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: They had legal hands to the face. Yeah, I Like

1541
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: if you let him like do that over and over

1542
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: again and you didn't call it that would be the equivalent.

1543
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 2: It's like in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. The officials are treating

1544
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: this like their kunu the and they're like do less

1545
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 2: and they're like okay, and they're like, well, you gotta

1546
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: do more than that. Little more than that, You do

1547
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 2: a little more, little more than that would be nice. Yeah,

1548
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 2: all right, you're ready for a little higher or lower.

1549
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: We had a homework. I don't know if we are.

1550
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. You asked me my top ten and

1551
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: I think I gave it to you on a Tuesday morning,

1552
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: probably in the six o'clock hour. I can't even remember what. Yeah,

1553
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 2: well there you go, just in time. Yeah, all right, Giby,

1554
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 2: So what have you done? What are you doing?

1555
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 17: So I asked you separately, yes, so that way neither

1556
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 17: one of you wouldn't know yet what you did. And

1557
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 17: let's see if you're on the same wavelength or not.

1558
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,640
Speaker 17: To list your own top ten power poll through the

1559
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 17: first two games of the twenty twenty four season, I've

1560
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 17: also included on the rundown Pete Priscoe's top ten. We'll compare, okay,

1561
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 17: and we'll have a little fun, all right now, obviously

1562
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 17: you mentioned it briefly yesterday Bo went with rewarded play

1563
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 17: play on the field, not what I think they can be.

1564
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: I think you have a little tweak.

1565
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 12: Both.

1566
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: It's both, I mean it's both.

1567
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 16: It's a combination of what I still believe, but also

1568
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 16: I have to acknowledge some of the things we've seen.

1569
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: I went the way that I used to do the

1570
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 2: ap pole when I used to be a college football voter,

1571
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: which was I would compare. I would go in a

1572
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 2: very week to week basis, this is the team playing

1573
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 2: the best right now, and so it's more regard to

1574
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: what I've seen in the first two weeks, more than,

1575
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 2: for example, what I bet the house on this team

1576
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 2: winning the Super Bowl, Amindiance.

1577
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 17: It says, no, off we go Kevin number one, number

1578
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 17: one for both of you and for one Pete Priscoe,

1579
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 17: they chiefs.

1580
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:53,719
Speaker 1: Is there a hole?

1581
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: Is there? A week now? They're not great as they are,

1582
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: but they have him, and so when they need a

1583
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 2: touchdown like they did or a field goal as they

1584
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: did against Cincinnati on Sunday, did I think that he

1585
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 2: would go get points? Yep? Why Because every time they're

1586
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 2: in that circumstance, he goes and gets points.

1587
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 16: It just can I say one thing real, Cocoaverbody's like

1588
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 16: all the Chiefs get bailed out by the refs and

1589
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 16: it's Mahomes. Do they do people realize why they were

1590
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 16: in fourth down again on that play?

1591
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: Well, the holding that happened before it, the play before

1592
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 2: they had completed it.

1593
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 16: If they wanted they had done it, if they wanted

1594
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 16: to just be like, hey, you guys, get it for free.

1595
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 16: They don't call that penalty and they've already they'd already

1596
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 16: completed it.

1597
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a shot play into a hole. Yeah,

1598
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: that's it. So like, so the you can't say that, Oh,

1599
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 2: they took you away from them. The officials took it

1600
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 2: away from that. Were you watching it live? Yeah, even

1601
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 2: when they went to fourth and sixteen, I still thought

1602
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 2: it was I still thought he was going to do it.

1603
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1604
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: I still thought that.

1605
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 16: They became slightly less skeptical. I would become more skeptical

1606
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 16: and less certain after the penalty. It negated him doing

1607
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 16: it once.

1608
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, nope, run it right back.

1609
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1610
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 17: I'm going to ask you this factor fiction. The second

1611
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 17: most important person on that football team, next to Mahomes

1612
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 17: is the kicker, Harrison Butker.

1613
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 2: Well, he's Chris Jones. Chris Jones is probably the correct answer,

1614
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 2: but he's bucker allows for them not to have to

1615
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 2: try once they get past the thirty five yard line.

1616
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 2: Like once they get there there, I couldn't believe they

1617
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 2: didn't try to get closer. They had time and they're like, no,

1618
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: we're good. Run it two times they take a fifty

1619
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: two yarder like crazy, Yeah, onwhere do we go?

1620
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:28,639
Speaker 1: Number two?

1621
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 17: Bo Bishop had Buffalo at number two, Nathan Zegura had

1622
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 17: Buffalo at number two?

1623
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 2: About us?

1624
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 17: Pete Prisco had Buffalo at number two? Could you have

1625
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 17: out of all of us impressive gentlemen?

1626
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 2: Not too shabby? I don't know. They just continue to

1627
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: make plays with there's nothing around them. He's he's just

1628
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: a dude. He's a dude.

1629
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 16: There are a lot of I think right now, it's

1630
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 16: through two weeks, right, so you can only go with

1631
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 16: kind of what you've seen and what you thought.

1632
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 12: But there.

1633
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 10: There.

1634
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 2: You can't say right now that there are any great teams.

1635
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: There are a lot of good teams.

1636
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 16: I think you could go to like twelve to fourteen

1637
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 16: good teams and then figure out what you're gonna do,

1638
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 16: how you rank them in there and right now, you're like,

1639
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 16: all right, Josh Allen's playing well and he's the guy.

1640
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they this for me. The reason that they

1641
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 2: were two for me and not a little bit lower

1642
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 2: is because what they did on Thursday night in Miami

1643
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 2: when Tua was healthy. The game is over at half,

1644
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: and they housed him and Allen wasn't even great, didn't

1645
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 2: need him to be, didn't need him to be. So no, yeah,

1646
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 2: so girl, adjust your mic a little bit. Moved that

1647
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 2: down a little bit.

1648
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,040
Speaker 17: Thank you, kinking hey you yeah, hey, welcome back. Next

1649
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 17: number three, This is where things start to differ a

1650
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 17: little bit. Bo Bishop at number three the Houston Texans, YEP,

1651
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 17: at number three for Nathan Zugura, the Fighting Pedros of

1652
01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,560
Speaker 17: the San Francisco Bay Area, and at number three for

1653
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 17: Pete Prisco the Houston Texans.

1654
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1655
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 16: I still have no problem thinking that the Niners can

1656
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 16: be absolutely anybody in the NFL.

1657
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 2: That's more of the faith play, though than you can't

1658
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 2: possibly have them ahead of Minnesota, who they just lost to.

1659
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh I can, Okay, Well that's the faith thing. That's

1660
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 2: not what's happened. But that would mean that if you

1661
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 2: have anybody in here who has your top ten would

1662
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: have to all be is. No, I got team. There's

1663
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: teams down here that have won loss. It just comes later.

1664
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 2: But I can't have San Francisco ahead of Minnesota when

1665
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: Minnesota just beat San Francisco. Oh I can't.

1666
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 12: I know.

1667
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 2: So you don't have San Francisco in your top ten. No,

1668
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: I do, ye, Minnesota, I have Minnesota in my top ten.

1669
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: I have San Francisco is the highest graded one loss team,

1670
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: highest graded one lost team.

1671
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 12: But I got it.

1672
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: I got to what happened on the field. I acknowledge

1673
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: what happened on the field.

1674
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 16: And I think, if we don't live in a simulated world,

1675
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 16: but if we did, and that game was played one.

1676
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: Hundred times of nine, ers are gonna win the vast

1677
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: majority of them. But it did not have it. It

1678
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: did that. So both were banged up. Minnesota was banged up.

1679
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: They were banged up, and they won more rankings than

1680
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 2: it is. Let me ask you this. I told you

1681
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 2: how I did it. I did it whole mentality. But

1682
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: I'm let me get let me. I'm just asking you

1683
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: a completely different question. I already acknowledged that I'm not

1684
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 2: I would not put anything on this. I would put

1685
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 2: money on San Francisco against everybody except Kansas City. But

1686
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: that wasn't the task. No, so I'm asked.

1687
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 16: But like like if your family was being kept in

1688
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 16: an undisclosed location the loo, they'd be freed, as if

1689
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 16: you picked the correct winner in a Niners Minnesota.

1690
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: But I just said, you just take different words, then

1691
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 2: they're right the head. But that's not what the job was.

1692
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 2: I don't think that's not how I took the job.

1693
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 2: The job was to rank the top. What just happened

1694
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: in week two? Next number four?

1695
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 17: I love this already. You might have to figure out

1696
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 17: something every week? Did uh Buffalo? I'm sorry, not not

1697
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 17: Buffalo at number four? Has the New Orleans Saints yep.

1698
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 17: Nathan Zigura has the Houston Texans at number four, and

1699
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 17: Pete Prisco has the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at number four.

1700
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 17: Quite a little spread here, kids.

1701
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 12: I mean.

1702
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 17: The NFL has been as hot as New Orleans in

1703
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 17: the first two weeks.

1704
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean they went to Detroit and won. They were

1705
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: kidge dogs in that game and they won on the road.

1706
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: I mean you had Houston one Spotfalo I did. So

1707
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: that's similar to it the way we view it and

1708
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 2: New Orleans. I don't It doesn't make sense to me.

1709
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:27,880
Speaker 2: But right now they score every time they.

1710
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 17: Have the ball outside of New Orleans. Is Buffalo the

1711
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 17: only team hotter than they are to start the season.

1712
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 2: Well, you can't be hotter than New Orleans because they

1713
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 2: score every time they have it. They have nineteen possessions

1714
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 2: and they scored on all of them, or nine possessions,

1715
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: and they scored on all the nineteen nineteen they scored

1716
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: on all of them.

1717
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 17: Yeah, nineteen, geez, crazy crazy, Next number five, Bo Bishop

1718
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 17: has the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Uh Nathan has the Detroit

1719
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 17: Football Lions. And at number five, people so to Vikings again,

1720
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 17: what is going?

1721
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 2: What is Detroit kind of sluggish to start a little bit.

1722
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: They slogged through that slog to the game against the Rams,

1723
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 2: and Rams had all the injuries and they it took

1724
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: the end to do that, and then it took I

1725
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 2: mean they threw it fifty six times with golf. It's

1726
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 2: kind of weird to start game. They did more than

1727
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: two to one. They lost the game. They lost again

1728
01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 2: said four and a half sacks and they lost, like yeah,

1729
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: just weird. I don't know, it just feels like they're

1730
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 2: a little off to start. I think they'll be fine,

1731
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 2: but but.

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01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 17: We mentioned it yesterday. I don't know if it's on

1733
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 17: the player so much as it is maybe the coaches.

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01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: He had a bad time management deal on yeah Sunday,

1735
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 2: Yeah for terrific, horrific. So I think he's got he's

1736
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 2: got to get back to what he is. Like, he's

1737
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:51,679
Speaker 2: got two stud backs go go fifty six attempts from golf.

1738
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 2: That ain't it?

1739
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1740
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: No, And that's not good for golf either. And where's Laporta?

1741
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a good question. I don't know.

1742
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 2: Next number six six, Wow, different number there?

1743
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 4: Good?

1744
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 17: The Los Angeles Chargers and Jim Harbaugh. Nathan Zegera has

1745
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 17: the Los Angela's Chargers at number six, and at number

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01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 17: six Pe Prisco has the New Orleans Saints. They're fining

1747
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 17: Harbaugh run the football and they're doing that.

1748
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1749
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: I wonder it's at some point like he does have

1750
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 2: Herbert Like, Yeah, at some point is will it be

1751
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: this week in Pittsburgh? Maybe? I don't know, but they

1752
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: do have Herbert Like at some point the Steelers have

1753
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: the ability to take away that running game. They do.

1754
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 2: They're winning, right now, but like they are, it's it's

1755
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: a lot of JK. Dobbins. You knew he'd do this though.

1756
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 17: He just stay just don't do somersaults. Stay healthy, man.

1757
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:53,679
Speaker 17: It's nice to see Dobbins back.

1758
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 2: I agree.

1759
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 1: Next number seven.

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01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 17: At number seven, Bo Bishop has the the sort of Vikings.

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01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 17: Number seven for Nathan Zagora the Green Bay Packers big

1762
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,519
Speaker 17: win over each Stones on Sunday, and at number seven

1763
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 17: for Pete Prisco, he is the undefeated Seattle Seahawks. Well

1764
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 17: grouping for all of you there.

1765
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 16: I thought I was assuming Love was coming back this week,

1766
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 16: and I know we practice say somebody that actually is happening.

1767
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 2: But I like that Green Bay team well. I love

1768
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,600
Speaker 2: plays for sure, and I was a few save of

1769
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 2: praise of our boil of floor. Oh I love the

1770
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: mox my coach of the years look a pretty good.

1771
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: He looks very good. And to win the way, I

1772
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 2: think that's no matter who's starting for them in Tennessee.

1773
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: I love that. So I don't. I love the score

1774
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 2: on that one, and I think Green Bay is very

1775
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: very real, but they're pretty one dimensional without without love.

1776
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 17: Next number eight, Number eight, Bo Bishop with the San

1777
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 17: Francisco forty nine Ers the highest one lost team Tampa

1778
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 17: Bay for Nathan Zigura and the San Francisco forty nine

1779
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 17: for Pete Priscoe Prisco and Bo Terrifying.

1780
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 2: Watched Terriffacey feel better. I feel terrible about it. I

1781
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 2: think he probably did what I did, though he probably

1782
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 2: went on rewarding what they did in two weeks.

1783
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 17: Absolutely not. It has to be what's Peedro think saying

1784
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 17: about all these injuries.

1785
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 16: Now then he thinks they're going to be fine. They

1786
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 16: just basically felt like they had a chance to win

1787
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 16: that game and.

1788
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 2: Then they did not. That was a weird result. Yeah, yeah,

1789
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 2: very weird was honestly.

1790
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 17: That's why like this Sunday like put them away early Brownies.

1791
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 4: Who they go?

1792
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 2: They're at Rams this week. San Francisco is yeah, and

1793
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 2: the Rams are hanging on by a thread. Yeah yeah.

1794
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:48,559
Speaker 17: Next number nine, Boa Bishop with your Cleveland Football Browns

1795
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 17: at number nine, Nathan's Girl with the New Orleans Saints

1796
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 17: and the Los Angeles Chargers at number nine for Pete Prisco.

1797
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 2: I just couldn't put Pittsburgh ahead of us. Girl. Why

1798
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 2: do you have New Orleans at night? Because I thought

1799
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 2: I don't.

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01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 16: I'm still not fully a believer in them, but they've

1801
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 16: been good enough to be in the top ten. Like you,

1802
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 16: I never would have thought they'd even be near the

1803
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,720
Speaker 16: top ten. So to me, that's a big acknowledgment of

1804
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 16: what they've done. Do I would I be willing to

1805
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 16: put my family in hiding and hope that they would

1806
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 16: be released based on a New Orleans Saints.

1807
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 2: Now, who's doing this? I don't know. It's truly the best.

1808
01:26:24,960 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 2: It's the only find out who you really believe. Yeah,

1809
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: but it's a believe play. It's the believe play, which

1810
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 2: is yeah, yeah, No, I don't know what to make

1811
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 2: a new Orlant like if they go to three and zero, yeah,

1812
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara renaissance, Like the whole thing is crazy to

1813
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 2: make of it. Who do they play this week? Eagles?

1814
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 2: It's Eagles at home and they are favored and they

1815
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: are favored. Yeah, Final one. The Vikings are at home,

1816
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: by the way, against a good Texans team. But they're

1817
01:26:56,920 --> 01:27:00,240
Speaker 2: three point dogs at home, Like maybe no Jeff and

1818
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 2: no Addison, like they whatever, even they were at their best,

1819
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be Yeah, they're not gonna be any

1820
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 2: weapons Yeah bo mischep.

1821
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 17: But the Pukers at number ten, the Cleveland Browns at

1822
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 17: number ten for Nathan Zagora, and the Pukers for Pete

1823
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 17: priscoll Man. You guys, you all have together.

1824
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 16: Too many, too many I would I think you're gonna

1825
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 16: you might ask for this to be stricken from the record.

1826
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 2: I mean there's several four or five you have one, two, three, four?

1827
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: Is it five? I think five Steelers Niners? Yeah, yeah, five, five,

1828
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 2: the same. I get it. It's a It is a

1829
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 2: It's something that I do all the time in college football,

1830
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: and it's something you rarely have to do in the NFL.

1831
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: An individual game isn't that important in the NFL as

1832
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: it is in college. College is slipping a little bit

1833
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 2: with a twelve team playoff, But for the longest time,

1834
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: like a college game, every game mattered so much so

1835
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 2: you couldn't say, like, ah, what is that. I think

1836
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: Jordan was saying that before the show started. He was

1837
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: talking to you about college football, and he said, you know,

1838
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 2: it felt like the college guys played harder all the time.

1839
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 2: And I think there's some truth to that from the

1840
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: standpoint of especially in the old days, like every single

1841
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 2: if you've lost a game at some of these places,

1842
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:24,560
Speaker 2: you're done. You were cooked. And in the NFL you

1843
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 2: can lose one and be like, it's just not our day.

1844
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: We'll get get them next week. It's fine, there's time.

1845
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: And I think that's what makes an NFL power ranking

1846
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 2: so hard because if this is the way to do

1847
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 2: it is the way that you set it up. And

1848
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: what I acknowledged you like, if I was saying bet

1849
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,400
Speaker 2: my family or bet my home on a team, that

1850
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 2: power ten would look different drastically than this one. I

1851
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: tried to do a bit harder to do it. I

1852
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 2: tried to do a mixture. My question to you.

1853
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 16: The only one that jumps out to me that it

1854
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,919
Speaker 16: was that you haven't that surprises me is the Steelers,

1855
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 16: because I think they've been dreadful even though they've won.

1856
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 2: But do you think learn finish? Go ahead? The one

1857
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 2: team you don't have on there that is also to

1858
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 2: and oh is Seattle? Do you think on a neutral field.

1859
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be real honest with you. I did this

1860
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 2: list at probably six o five in the morning on

1861
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: a Tuesday while I was also producing another show and

1862
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: probably forgot listen to trying to help you out. So

1863
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: let's okay, hold on it. Let's ask it question might

1864
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: happen you now that you are cognizant of that. I

1865
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,720
Speaker 2: think in Pittsburgh I would probably have Seattle. I think

1866
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 2: their wins are better. So throw them out now you

1867
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:28,799
Speaker 2: only have four, the same.

1868
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 16: As as a Prisco, and then put Seahawks at ten. Yeah,

1869
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 16: and then pitt Steelers are the pukers are out.

1870
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 2: Then the pukers are out there. You are the same

1871
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