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Speaker 1: Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest

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Speaker 1: in the building. Yes, indeed, John Boyega. What's good morning, morning, morning, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: welcome you good great please King, how are you, brother?

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Speaker 1: I'm good Mine can't complain absolutely. You from England, from London, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: from London Southeast Peckham. Okay, yeah, Now you got two

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Speaker 1: movies coming out, but one is out already, The Morning

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Speaker 1: Too coming out, but the Woman King Breaking they cloned Tyrone. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of stuff moving up. Yeah. Mine,

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Speaker 1: I was just trying to come back with with the

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Speaker 1: madness off the pandemic, especially you know what happened to

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Speaker 1: our industry. So yeah, we're just coming back with the

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Speaker 1: projects now. So for people that don't know who you are,

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Speaker 1: tell them who you are and how you got started interacting. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm John Boyega my thirty years old. I got

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Speaker 1: started in a British movie called a typ the Block.

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Speaker 1: Didn't really do well in the UK, but got to

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Speaker 1: really appreciated in the States, so that expanded my opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Came down here and then audition failed, tried again and

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Speaker 1: then I got Star Wars, and then from Star Wars

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Speaker 1: that's where I kind of got the opportunity to be

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Speaker 1: on the main stage or commercial and ship but got

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Speaker 1: you into acting, Like what was the actor that said

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Speaker 1: I want to do this because of that? You know what?

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Speaker 1: It started off as a social thing. I didn't really

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Speaker 1: fit in into all of the groups, wasn't really too

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Speaker 1: It wasn't smart enough for the academics, wasn't tough enough

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Speaker 1: for the big boys. And at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't skilful enough for football and ship. So I

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Speaker 1: was then just with the performance kids. And they had

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Speaker 1: girls too, so I was just like, yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: better anyway. So I was just like, yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna chill here. And then from there, actually the passion

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Speaker 1: came after that actually started to take it seriously after

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Speaker 1: going through a few things and then just making some decisions.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was then toroduce to you via Star

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Speaker 1: Wars like, do you feel like that the whole conversation

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Speaker 1: about you know, a black person being a lead in

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Speaker 1: Star Wars, do you think that overshadowed your actual abilities

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Speaker 1: that you that you showed in the movie. Um, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: to a certain extent. Actually, I think with episode seven

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Speaker 1: with Force Awakens, I think people thought I was that guy,

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Speaker 1: which I found kind of hilarious, Like they thought that

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Speaker 1: that was kind of confusing. And then you've got two

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Speaker 1: more movies and then people like yourselves are introduced through

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Speaker 1: the franchise. It's hard to kind of have that separation

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Speaker 1: and that detachment. But I don't I don't blame me.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the natural kind of that's how the

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Speaker 1: process goes with franchise films, Like it's hard to detach

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Speaker 1: yourself from the character. So yeah, that's definitely a struggle

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Speaker 1: and a grand conversation though, because you see what's happening

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Speaker 1: with Harley Bailey with The Little Mermaid. I saw that.

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Speaker 1: I've just put a comment on a page. I'm so

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Speaker 1: proud of her. I left a message. I'm so proud

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Speaker 1: of what I saw in that trailer. Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine what she must be going through. They have people, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I know that's why I think it's important that

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Speaker 1: really did bring attention. I feel like I feel like

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Speaker 1: I spoke up about it and after in the aftermath,

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Speaker 1: I've been seeing a lot of corporate companies speaking out

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Speaker 1: as well, showing support and love, because I think it's

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Speaker 1: important for the companies actually to back the people that

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Speaker 1: they cast in the movie, just so that they feel

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Speaker 1: safe and feel protected. But yeah, it's it's it's tough,

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Speaker 1: but I suggest this time, rather than fixating on the

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Speaker 1: negative for her, we need to celebrate it and just

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Speaker 1: blind out the negative noise. That's that's what we need

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Speaker 1: to do this time. Yeah's how you say. You said

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Speaker 1: during the time of episode seven, just being the only

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Speaker 1: that everybody else it was kind of like, you've got

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Speaker 1: this role, You've got this first role, congratulations. Whereas with

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Speaker 1: me it was what, you know, what Haley's going through,

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Speaker 1: Like it was the backlash. And you find yourself when

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Speaker 1: Daisy Ridley, you go, wow, I'm different, Like my introduction

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Speaker 1: you said about celebrating it right, because I think sometimes

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it does because for example, if you look at

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Speaker 1: hope that you will find that raw this kid can

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Speaker 1: actually act. And what I mean act, I mean acting

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Speaker 1: You feel like, well, on set, they're not really using

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Speaker 1: put me in all the marketing posts just to get

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Speaker 1: the black people excited. But then when the black people

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Speaker 1: whereas in you know the other side, they put the

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Speaker 1: cape on the brother. He's killing it. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: got the storylines, he's got the moves and a that

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Speaker 1: You get Star Wars wh people that don't know breakdown.

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Speaker 1: You know how that whole process came about. So it's

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Speaker 1: actually funny. I was I was shooting a movie called

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Speaker 1: Imperial Dreams with Rowe, Timmy and ro Timmy, Timmy, Lena

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Speaker 1: you responded to that song, man, but we're gonna we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation about that song anyway. But we

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Speaker 1: coming in. You know your Star Wars, yeah I was.

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Speaker 1: the prequels. I had the Dark Moore figures. So I

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Speaker 1: was just like, nah, this is legit and parctically about

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Speaker 1: get none of them much. Damn. You want to use

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Speaker 1: your likeness in everything face none of them much. Dam

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Speaker 1: I see they said you want free movies, you better

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Speaker 1: be appreciative that we gave you this, Jenny. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you know me, then I was hungry, you know, white

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Speaker 1: me because you know how racist you gotta be the

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Speaker 1: or a little Mermaid. We're talking about fucking mermaid. It's

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Speaker 1: that Caribbean seeing stuff. But I don't know, man, just

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Speaker 1: but it's nuts that you know, it just reflects about

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Speaker 1: We have to celebrate what that is for her, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and it's a big it's a big move. How

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna live up to what's expected that they play.

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Speaker 1: You gotta play the game, man. But as you know,

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Speaker 1: I was brewing, well, you know, a little bit a

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Speaker 1: it's the process of it. I was like, I was

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Speaker 1: To a certain extent. But did anybody from within Disney

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Speaker 1: reach out to you after and say, like, have any

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Speaker 1: comments or say you know what you're right? Anything? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: in retrospect. But but I heard that's that's the kind

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Speaker 1: when I when I see the man, I'm gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to them. You're not you're not going back to you

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Speaker 1: I read this. You don't want you're not interested in

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Speaker 1: going back to any of the Star Wars franchise. No, no, no, no, man,

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Speaker 1: I think my time is started and the contract done.

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Speaker 1: So to be honest, it's it's not even a conversation

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Speaker 1: that I don't even think they're even curious about me

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Speaker 1: coming back or anything like that. So all right now

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Speaker 1: we're here to talk about Breaking and the Woman King.

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Speaker 1: Those are both based on two stories. Correct. The Woman

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Speaker 1: can to a certain extent Breaking, yes, okay, yea, So

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Speaker 1: tell us the story of Breaking. That's something Michael kay Williams,

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Speaker 1: isn't that Michael Kay Williams's fellow, Brooklyn Brooklyn, I like myself, So, um,

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Speaker 1: can you tell us about Breaking and what your role was?

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Speaker 1: And there you were a marine? Yeah, yeah, so I play.

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Speaker 1: I play a war Vet called Brian Brown Eastley who

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Speaker 1: comes back to society after serving, and then when he

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Speaker 1: You come from a brown skin, dark woman. You see

425
00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,400
Speaker 1: how that's happened, you know, in terms of the dispariting roles,

426
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,879
Speaker 1: in terms of the opportunities and roles for the dark

427
00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,440
Speaker 1: skinned black women, that in itself has been a struggle.

428
00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,120
Speaker 1: So for me, sitting on a set where I'm seeing

429
00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,960
Speaker 1: the top ten or even fifteen to twenty women in

430
00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,720
Speaker 1: this picture are black and dark skin specifically was special

431
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,480
Speaker 1: to see. And they went in. It's not like just

432
00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,680
Speaker 1: a propaganda kind of stick the black people in that

433
00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,919
Speaker 1: they were trained for six months. They transformed their bodies.

434
00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,080
Speaker 1: You know, me, I came in just being the King.

435
00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 1: I didn't have much to do physically. They were handling

436
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,240
Speaker 1: everything and it was you know, it's inspirational to work

437
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,840
Speaker 1: black women. Yeah, and you know that's a that's a

438
00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,880
Speaker 1: good thing. When I saw I was like, I thought

439
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,400
Speaker 1: it was a new black man at the trail. I'm

440
00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,040
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, but that's what I get that. But

441
00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 1: that's what we're used to. But that's why we're trying

442
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,040
Speaker 1: to break that. We deserve the full buffet's We deserve

443
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,000
Speaker 1: to have the tyler perries of the world and then

444
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 1: have the the other side, then have the women kings,

445
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 1: and that the women kings based you know, loosely based

446
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 1: on the true true story. So it grounds you more

447
00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,280
Speaker 1: into the realities of our world. But you know, it

448
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 1: begs the question why can't we have both for people

449
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 1: that don't know, well, it's about the Agogia, the all

450
00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,320
Speaker 1: female military unit in the Homie, who are basically tasked

451
00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 1: with protecting their kingdom there at a very difficult time

452
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,679
Speaker 1: because they have their involvement in the slave trade um

453
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: and their and their involvement, I mean the negativity of

454
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 1: the times. It's times changed. The king Gezo has just

455
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 1: risen to power and he's trying to decide how to

456
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, how his nation can move forward. Do we

457
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 1: continue a part of this negative slave trade or do

458
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,920
Speaker 1: we kind of like diversifying, go into palm oil and

459
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 1: all these different things. And that comes with internal civil

460
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: conflicts and it just shows you the journey of that.

461
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: But Viola Davis y Beast, Hey, Viola Davis Beast is

462
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,640
Speaker 1: madness is a transformative role for a lot of people,

463
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,919
Speaker 1: and it's got two certain bed Lashana Lynch Sheila at him. Um,

464
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: it's the big boy project. I can't evenly It's a

465
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,159
Speaker 1: budget to each other, isn't Wasn't that the regime you

466
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 1: just discussed who the Domlja is big off? Well no, no, no,

467
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 1: well well yes they said that. They said it was

468
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: a loose they were loosely based on on them, So

469
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 1: I mean, which which is cool to see how these

470
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 1: references go. But this is this is no fantasy. I mean,

471
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 1: this is yeah, this is real swords and spears and

472
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 1: just you know, you don't get a suit in this one.

473
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: But was it training like for you getting ready for

474
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 1: this role? Luxurious? He said he had to do much.

475
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,920
Speaker 1: I was the king, the king, Yeah, yeah, robes, you know,

476
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,160
Speaker 1: picking through robes, the blue one and nothing. I didn't

477
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: have a running for what they were run. They were run.

478
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,359
Speaker 1: They had to do it. So they done. Then they

479
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 1: done most of the done, most of the work, you know,

480
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 1: all the most challenging part, you know, playing the king,

481
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 1: picking the ropes. There was no part that made you

482
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: emotional in the moment. Well, that's not challenge that's great. Definitely, definitely,

483
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 1: there's there's a part of of praise and adoration that

484
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 1: the the black women have to do. And they were

485
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: singing and they were dancing, and that's another thing on

486
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: this movie is not, you know, slave pawn, it's not.

487
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 1: It has moment of togetherness, sisterhood, dancing, singing, and those

488
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: moments were definitely emotional seeing them singing, seeing them dancing.

489
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: You know, I'm Nigerian as well, so I'm like, yeah,

490
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: I love the vibe of the culture in it. Why

491
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 1: did you think why do you think the king didn't

492
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: want to fight with the foreign country at first? I

493
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 1: think that's just the what would you mean the fin enemy?

494
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but fight with fight. Why do you think

495
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: he did not want to fight with them at first?

496
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: What do you mean didn't you want to fight them?

497
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: What the what the Oh no, it's a negotiation at

498
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: that time. Remember they're involved in the slave trade. So

499
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: it's like, is that the part where you're talking about

500
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 1: when I think going to wars? She was like, do

501
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: you want to go to wars? She was like, well,

502
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 1: sometimes we have to fight for something. Yeah. But when

503
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: you go and watch the movie, it is so nuanced.

504
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: It's very nuanced. It speaks to the diaspora, it speaks

505
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: to multiple different tribes and cultures. It speaks to internal

506
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: civil war. So when he's saying go to war, it's

507
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: not always just white people. It's like black people too.

508
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: This this script is way more nuanced than people think

509
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,119
Speaker 1: it is. You know, the marketing strategy just go get

510
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: them happy with the spears and the you know, viola,

511
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,159
Speaker 1: get the action. But when you come in and watch it,

512
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: it's a whole more. It's a more nuanced take. Would

513
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: you say this is the favorite movie you've done to date? Yeah? Really? Yeah? Yeah.

514
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: I enjoyed my experience and it took me back to

515
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: first starting out, and I like being on a set

516
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: whereas black women and stuff, they tell you when you

517
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: got crossed in the corner of your living other cultures,

518
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 1: they'd be leaving you to hang out there, you know

519
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's something nice and homely about about

520
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: having a cast of women that reflect on how you

521
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: were raised. A question, right, you played the king in

522
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: that movie. This is something I've been exploring, Like, you know,

523
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like patriarchy is a system.

524
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: I feel like the divine order of things is women

525
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 1: are really the leaders in the foundation. That's my personal opinion.

526
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: When you do a role like that and you see

527
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: them in their position and you in your position, or

528
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 1: what did that make you think of the power dynamic?

529
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: I think it's a reciprocal energy that we need. And

530
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: then you need to get into more of the specifics

531
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: of who the woman is. Can't just go woman and

532
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: then a man and then place them in positions. I

533
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: think everybody has unique skill sets that could be utilized

534
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: or used and that's what you're seeing in this in

535
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: this movie that even in the court of Chambers, you know,

536
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: with opinions, there will be females there and there will

537
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: be males, and to get that sense of a different

538
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: a different perspective. But what's funny is some females and

539
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: males will agree, you know what I mean, and and

540
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: they differ in their in their opinions still, but it

541
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: made me think, like you just we just got to

542
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: work together, Like we've got to come to this point

543
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: where there's a level ground that you can collaborate to

544
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: make society better. Society starts with families, good families. So yeah,

545
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: it just makes you think about that when did you

546
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: decide to start a production company? Um, I think it

547
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: was bubbling from being on set of Star Wars and

548
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: not being involved in the big boy conversations that were

549
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: kind of cool to hear though, Like I would hear

550
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: jj Abrams and Cafe talk about movie moments that I

551
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: knew would be historical for the for the world, but

552
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: they're just chatting about it in a tent like it's casual.

553
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: And I was just like, Rah would love to be

554
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: a part of the creative process. And then I was like,

555
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: you know, if I wait for the phone to ring,

556
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: movies like Breaking and all these roles that I've been

557
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: able to do, even they clone Tyrone, Like it can't.

558
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: It can't just happen that way. I have to actually

559
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: have more of a proactive approach tomorrow to my job.

560
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: You gotta tell me about this day Clone Tyrone. The

561
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: title alone sounds phenomenal. I know, Jamie Fox isn't it,

562
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: But what is that movie about a pimp, a prostitute,

563
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: and a drug dealer find out that some white people

564
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: doing some crazy shit under the ground in the hood.

565
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna tell you. The pimp Jamie Fox.

566
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox is the pimp, Tiana Paris's prostitute, and I'm

567
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: the drug dealer. And it's about it's basically a Hood

568
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: Star Wars. It's It's hood Scooby Doo It see that.

569
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: It's a mystery movie about the last people, the last

570
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: people you think team up, the last sort of people

571
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: you think with team up, is about them actually stepping

572
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: up and handling a bit of a sci fi mystery

573
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: situation which you don't you don't get to see. And Jamie,

574
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox, Jame Fox is hilarious, hilarious, and you know,

575
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: that's a real conversation going on, like that's been going

576
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 1: on for some years. Like people think that there's actually

577
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: folks getting cloned out here. Yeah, people who I thought

578
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: I knew yesterday and then the very next day they

579
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: were totally different, And I'm like, they must have got cloned.

580
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: I want to know where them facilities are, though I

581
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: don't ain't heard about nothing much from that. You believe

582
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: in it to a certain extent, I mean, you never know.

583
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 1: That's how I believe it. You never know, But then

584
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: I don't know facts not do it. Yeah you did,

585
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: but you said that to accomplish you did three completely

586
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: different movies. I just wanted to change and did you

587
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: see that? And then they cloned Tyrone. I play about

588
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: four or five different characters, one of them seventy eight.

589
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: So this is all giving me the opportunity just to

590
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: do what actors do. Actors not supposed to be playing themselves.

591
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: So you get cloned in the movie I'm Tyrone. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

592
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: but so funny. The movie is strange. It's not even

593
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: about that. It's just it's just it's just wait. I

594
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: just can't wait for people to people to see it. Now.

595
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: When people talk about diversity in Hollywood, what does that

596
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: actually look like? It means that you actually try and

597
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 1: find the talented individuals from groups that have been kind

598
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: of forgotten and dismissed and not being given the right opportunities.

599
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: It does not mean you just put a whole bunch

600
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: of black people quotas in it. It means you actually

601
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: try and actually find the homegrown talent people are passionate

602
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: and who are working that don't get those opportunities, that

603
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: don't have the cousin or the auntie in there that says, oh,

604
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: you can come and assist for this actor. People that

605
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: don't have that clean cut door. It means that we're

606
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: struggling with trying to bring in those people. And this

607
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: is in behind the scenes as well as in front

608
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: of the camera. It's about bringing in those people who

609
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: are skilled but who do not get the opportunities based

610
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: on that disparity. There you got a very old soul

611
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: man only thirty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm f you got

612
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: a very old soul like oh yeah, yeah, I was

613
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, I heard that before. I'm not cool. How

614
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: do you feel like how your art now is not

615
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: being released in major movie places anymore and sometimes you

616
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 1: just go on digital, sometimes just Netflix, sometimes Hulu. How

617
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: does that you know because you grew up going to

618
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: the movies? Yes, so how is that feeling? The Woman

619
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: King is different because it's only in theaters right on

620
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: the sixteen I've been I've been blessed Breaking was only

621
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: in theaters as well the first two weeks and then

622
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: I think goes to digital this week or so. Um.

623
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: So I've been uniquely blessing that in that sense that

624
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: I've had. I've been able to shoot three projects during

625
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and two of them have been exclusively released

626
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: in in movie theaters, and Breaking got the big AMC deal,

627
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: so we were in a good few AMC so I

628
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: personally can't complain, but I do think it's um. It

629
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: was worrying for a lot of people at the beginning

630
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: the pandemic was like wait, wait, wait, what's They're not

631
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: gonna come to see us. They don't want to come

632
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: see us no more. For one hour and thirty minutes,

633
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn like um. And it makes you think,

634
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: and it makes you respect what you know. Denzel Washington

635
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: has done, Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, you know the old

636
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: school box office, you know moneymakers who would make movies

637
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: an event and makes you leave your house if it's

638
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: cold suddenly raining. It makes you respect that more in

639
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: an ever change in time. But it's it's an adjustment,

640
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: It's an adjust What are you before, oh, movies? Yeah,

641
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: I still like go into the movie? Yeah yeah, to

642
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: see like the woman king in the movie. No, no, no,

643
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: You've got to see the woman king in the movies.

644
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's scope, there's there's also what it

645
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: does to you experience the immersiveness into the I mean

646
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: you you at home, the microwave going off, you talk

647
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: it to someone, you text it, on Instagram, It's like

648
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: there's much more of a focus and a fixation and

649
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: in experience, what are your dads about? You know, the

650
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: whole conversation about how you say British actors playing Black

651
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: American roles? You know, what do you think about? I

652
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: think I think number one, the first approach is to

653
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: listen to each other because there might be a perspective

654
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: that we are missing right coming in, coming into the game,

655
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: and we are not coming into games to steal anything.

656
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: In fact, it's impossible to steal a role by the way,

657
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: roles are only offered, so we come in there to

658
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: just work. But sometimes you don't know whose toes you're

659
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: stepping in if you don't actually listen to the people

660
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: in the folk you know that are on ground to

661
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: tell you. But in that I think also on the

662
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: flip side, I couldn't relate to the conversation because I'd

663
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: be honest. African America has been nothing but love to me.

664
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: I lost my accommodation in La my air being being

665
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: in La, I was staying in the streets for about

666
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: two days off of Crescent Heights Boulevard. I went to

667
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: some party I met who is now my best friend Asia,

668
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: an African American young girl from Inglewood, which just like, Yo,

669
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: I loved your movie. I got I got your movie

670
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: on red Box and I said, I don't have nowhere

671
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: to stay. She goes, you can come stay, Come, stay

672
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: in my crib. I say, where's your crib? She goes

673
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: Inglewood that I was living in Inglewood for a bit.

674
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: And so for me, it's like I've met and connected

675
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: with people who have helped me. The people who have

676
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: helped me mostly being an African American, so I don't

677
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: see that side of the conversation. So sometimes I'm not

678
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: in the best position to communicate because it's been a

679
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: lot of like, you know, whether it's Lena Way to

680
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: whether it's anybody Jamie, it's just been love, you know,

681
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: and support. And I think on set we collaborate a lot,

682
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: even with roles as a black brit that people will

683
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: feel like I wouldn't understand the role. Sometimes my African

684
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: American brother don't understand the role too, and we help

685
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: each other. We're like, oh, because we weren't there. At

686
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we are actors. We have

687
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: to put tray something that we don't we can't see

688
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: so I think that it's it's a good conversation to

689
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: have and we should stay listening, stay collaborating, because this

690
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: civil warsh it looks weak, looks petty and weak, especially

691
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to the to the mainstream game, it

692
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: looks a bit it looks a bit dead. But if

693
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: we can talk and have a conversation about it and

694
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: no one feels like it should be an attack thing,

695
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's let's keep it Cordrials so we

696
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: can actually have the conversation and perhaps we'll learn a

697
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: few things. Absolutely have there have been roles that you

698
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: missed out on for scheduling purposes, like man, I really

699
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: wanted to do this, but I'm over here filming Star Wars,

700
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: or during Star Wars. Yeah, I mean during Star Wars

701
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: it was like I say, I say as a joke,

702
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: but it's like luxury jail, you know, because it's it's nice.

703
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: It's nice to be in a movie like this. It's

704
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: nice to know your builds are probably gonna pay for

705
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: nick eight years. It's nice to know that. But there

706
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: are some roles where you're like I can actually do that.

707
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: They don't believe I can because I'm just I have

708
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: to do these Star Wars movies. No harm to Star Wars.

709
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: It takes like eight nine months to film one. So

710
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: after that, I'm trying to go on holiday with the

711
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: poison just chill. I'm trying to go out. But yeah,

712
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: you do feel like that. You're like, damn, man, these

713
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: roles are so nuanced. But if anything, I've been inspired.

714
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: What are some things you wish you could have done

715
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: during that but you just couldn't because of whatever reason.

716
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: And You're like, man, I've forgotten now. But it was

717
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: a good few things that come back. They were mostly

718
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: indies or mostly indies, and I would have loved the

719
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to work with Jordan Peel a bit as well.

720
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: We we we've been speaking for for a bit and

721
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: I've always and you know, we took a meet. I

722
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: took a meeting with him and went down to see

723
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: him at Monkey Poor and I've always said, hey, Jordan, man,

724
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: just just put me in the just put me in

725
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: the far distance. You know, Danny Coli has put his

726
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: head to the side. I've just seen her or eve something,

727
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, just put me in there. Because I really

728
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: like his work. So yeah, maybe one day, you know,

729
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: we were talking about, like the Little Mermaid backlash and

730
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Star Wars backlash earlier. How much of that do we

731
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: how much people that do we know is real? Because

732
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what I've been thinking about, That's

733
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: what I've been thinking about. I've also been thinking about

734
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: these bots that pretend that they're black. Yes, we need

735
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: to be careful, um, and I've been seeing it a

736
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: bit more so the journalists. Something that they're doing is

737
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: because of the pressure that's coming from sometimes they're editors.

738
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: The clickbait is there to irritate you and make you angry.

739
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: So sometimes they will nact our celebrity will answer a

740
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: question to do with race one week, they will release

741
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: like several different parts of their answer throughout a six week,

742
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: like throughout the time of six weeks, just to have

743
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: a steady story going on. And sometimes it's not accurate

744
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: to what the conversation is. But I think we need

745
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: to have an audience that's more aware of that. Y'all

746
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: need to be a little bit more smart at stop

747
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: being triggered because some of these things, as you said,

748
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: that it's fake like they're trying to to stir the

749
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: pot to a certain extent. So we need to we

750
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: need to fixate on a celebration like we did with

751
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: Black Panther, like it was it like that celebration was

752
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: so mad that anybody was talking any something that stuff

753
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: that was negative was was you could dismiss that. So

754
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: let's celebrate. Because it's hard for me to believe that

755
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: people care this much about a black mermaid because when

756
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: I when I started a trailer come out on my

757
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: on my algorithm, it was all love. Let me tell you, man,

758
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: her name Ariel, and she's been swimming to the surface. Man,

759
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: that son been hitting her for a bit. I've been

760
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: hearing her. She's supposed to have them them dreads. That's

761
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: how it was supposed to be in the first place.

762
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: And if you bad, you should know stories like give me. Also,

763
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about her talent. Yeah, she's amazing.

764
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: She's a manmaid, you're a thing. She's she's her fad.

765
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: She's up there, man, she's got it. So you know,

766
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: just loving support to em and keep on doing the thing.

767
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna go see that. I'm gonna take all

768
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: the black little kids go see it. Probably book out

769
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: they are you know, you know how we do we

770
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: make it so easy for coin to pro nowadays coin

771
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: coin pro it was a system that actually used to

772
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: disrupt like protests back in the day doing he's doing

773
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: the civil right there, Like that's what they would would do.

774
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: They would send people to these Yeah, yeah, yeah, do

775
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: that now. Yeah. I mean, I mean it makes sense

776
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: that actually copy and past in that physical situation. It

777
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: makes sense that they would do that online. And I've

778
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: been thinking about that too, because sometimes I'd make the

779
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: mistake of highlighting something that was triggering. But it's like

780
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: if you didn't highlight it, bro, no one would have

781
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: seen that. Yeah, I had to go stupid. So you know,

782
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: we have to we have to try and finish it

783
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more. There is a game to it.

784
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: What's the biggest misconception about being black in Hollywood? I

785
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I guess there's a lot, but I'll

786
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: keep myself to myself. I don't really try to get

787
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: into people's in opinions too much. I don't really know. Um,

788
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: I guess it. Maybe you're an asshole. I mean, you

789
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: always got proved that you're not an asshole the first

790
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: three weeks of meeting somebody. But I'm sure, it's in

791
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: your position to you, like, you know, you're going a

792
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: day or wherever it is, and it's like the person's

793
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: kind of like, are you one of them? You know

794
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: what I mean? And the first three weeks is proving

795
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: that you're just yeah, you're not the date partner. Look

796
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah yeah, but you married, yes sir, all right,

797
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: all right, lay the same way for twenty four years.

798
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic black. Yes, sir, yeah, I absolutely,

799
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: because I've heard you speak. I've heard you. I've heard

800
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: you speak before about you like your blackness and stuff.

801
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: So I thought you was one of the ones that

802
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna, you know, sacrifice your your loins to continue

803
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: in this race. So I'm like, okay, let me just

804
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: check it. Well, yeah, he said that, he said, I'm

805
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: explaining that what happened now? You you speak about your

806
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: blackness quite a lot, and then obviously I've seen your

807
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: interview something like, let me just check that, make sure

808
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: he's oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Because I judge brothers

809
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: like that too. I mean, I'm I'm gonna judge. I mean,

810
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: anyone can do what they need to do, but I

811
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: feel like when you speak in a certain way. Black

812
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: men gotta be a black Yeah, when you spoken that,

813
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: you're spoken in that way. Yeah, Like, let me just

814
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: check my man. My man's devoted at home. People have

815
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: talked so black, but then they sleep white. I'm like,

816
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean a white woman. Yeah, I have once once,

817
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: I dated on one once when I was younger. Um,

818
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: it was all right, but it was it was just chilling,

819
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was just it wasn't

820
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: nothing serious like that. So but naturally, you know, could

821
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: you bring a storm troop at home? I've said it openly.

822
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: He's like, it's just a preference, Like like I like

823
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: my women black, you know, and I feel just just

824
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: separate from you know, a political statement or anything like that.

825
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: It's just stay fine as hell they you know, men,

826
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: and level's gotta be over seventy five percent, you know

827
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. Thickness gotta be there, style gotta be there.

828
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: We gotta laugh at the same jokes. We've gotta bump

829
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: to the same music. It's just gotta be a flow,

830
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: that's right, you know what I mean. So you can't

831
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: have conversations about white supremacy tearing apart black families, but

832
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: you don't even you'ren't even trying to create. I'm trying.

833
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have some conversations where I can say

834
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: took my ship behind closed doors. Like I'm trying to say, woman,

835
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't And she's like, yeah, baby, yeah, you're right,

836
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: You're right. You know what I mean. I needed to

837
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: understand a black man's anger frustration. I needed to understand

838
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: when I certain dudes walk into the room and energy

839
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: ain't right. And she's just like, calm down, But I

840
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: need that. I need I need me, A need me

841
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: a plan mane me. And we appreciate you, don't you

842
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: see just a little bit, just a little bit, I

843
00:36:55,320 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson a little bit looks with the eyebrow that

844
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: before I got, I got a whole bunch bot your

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Speaker 1: mom me or Johnathan Majors, Oh I've got, I've got

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Speaker 1: I've got that to you anyway, John Boyina, We appreciate you, Joan,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, appreciate you. My woman King breaking

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Speaker 1: definitely go check it out and thank they Cam Tyrone

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Speaker 1: coming in September. Well tune right, yeah, yeah, thank you man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for me. It's the Breakfast Club