1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: On today's episode of Ticket to the Draft podcast, we 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: talked Jade and Daniels and how impressive he was in 3 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: the joint practice in the preseason. Those first eleven plays 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: were awesome. And it's a rookie rundown. We're talking to 5 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: some of our favorite rookies that stood out in the 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: preseason and we're talking about what we want to see 7 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: versus Miami and from Jaden moving forward. It all starts 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: right out. Welcome in to Ticket the Draft Podcast. I'm 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Logan Paulson here with Jessic Guy, Jason and Jason. It 10 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: felt fitting to do our what is this like monthly 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: podcast review of Ticket to the Draft because we just 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: had a preseason game and we got to see the 13 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: rookies actually play some football, and we had a joint 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: practice and we've had nine days of training camp, so 15 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: kind of reviewing all of their performances and kind of 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: give an update on what we think they're doing so far. 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, we talked about these guys all the 18 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 2: way up through the draft process, we did a lot 19 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: of episodes, and now we get to see them actually 20 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: out on the field. Yeah, and it's exciting. 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's gonna be really exciting to talk about them. 22 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: And I think there were a lot, you know, in 23 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: terms of bright spots from the preseason game specifically, like 24 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: I think the lot of young guys really stuck out 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: and excited to start talking about him. 26 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: I mean, we have to start with Jayde and Daniels. 27 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: We can't have a rookie show. I talk about Jayden. 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: He looks so good. Logan as a fan, just a fan, 29 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: take everything else and I am. I am just a guy. 30 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: I was sitting on my couch, I had some nachos, 31 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: I took a big dip, right, I got a little 32 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: bit of sour cream on my fingers, a little bit 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: of that because I and just watching Jayde and Daniels play. 34 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: It just it was a perfect combination of just what 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: I want to feel as a Washington fan watching this team. 36 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: I just want to be enjoying a good Saturday in 37 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: this case, but a Sunday football game with the Commander 38 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: is just rolling. Jayden looked like that. 39 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So what I would say is I also was 40 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: very excited or I'm very excited about Jayden. Like we've 41 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: talked about him a ton through practice. He's done a 42 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: great job. He did a good job in the seven 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: on seven period of joint practice, a little bit messy 44 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: during team more because the old line wasn't all together 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: for joint practice. But what I would also say is 46 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: he only completed three passes. Two of them were screens 47 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: and one was a fifty to fifty ball down the field. 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: So again, this is good and it's exciting, and I 49 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: love the process of him checking that play and I understand, like, 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe Nishand had done it, and he's 51 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: I love the confidence. I love him going out there 52 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: and saying, I know the play that's called, it's not 53 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: the right play for me, it's not the right play 54 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: versus his defense. Let's get to something I feel comfortable 55 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: and confident in and put the football down the field. 56 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: And again you see the arm talent, you see his 57 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: ability to layer that throw. Great job by Diami, great 58 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: catch by Diami, making the quarterback right. Love to see 59 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: that level of confidence from Diami. But I just wanted 60 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: to kind of point that out. I think Cliff did 61 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: a really good job of kind of making it easy 62 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: for him, if that makes sense, kind of hey, we're 63 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: going to run a screen, here's three yards. They ran 64 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: the ball. Also, very effectively like Brian Robinson Junior deserves 65 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: a ton of credit, Austin Ecker deserves a ton of credit. 66 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Beyaddish Allegretti coused me did a great job in the 67 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: interier creating movement, letting b Rop have a clean runway 68 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: into those runs getting the four or five yards of pop. 69 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: So all of that being said, are there things to 70 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: be excited about, Yes, but there's still so much more 71 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: that he has to show us in terms of saying like, hey, 72 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: I am I am him, and we're really excited about him. 73 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to pour water on that, but 74 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking I just want to kind of put in 75 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: some context. It's eleven plays, three passes, one quarterback read 76 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: versus Manda Man coverage again, very simple read. The defenses 77 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: aren't really prepping the way they would be in the 78 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: regular season. This is good, it's a good test. He 79 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: passed the test one hundred percent. But there's still a 80 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: lot more steps to go this offseason for him. 81 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I mean, okay, so my wife and 82 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: I watched Top Chef a lot. Okay, okay, And here's 83 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: the thing the judges say all the time, if you're 84 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: going to do something simple, you need to do it 85 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: really well. 86 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: And I think he did right. 87 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: We saw simple, right, Like you said, two screen passes, 88 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: one fifty to fifty ball. But man, did he look 89 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: like he was in control? And That's what I'm talking 90 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: about with the excitement is like, yeah, three passes, say 91 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: it was completed, vanilla offense, vanilla defense. I get that, 92 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: But man, that vanilla it had the right amount of 93 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: vanilla bean and sugar in it, and it was churned perfectly. 94 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: It looked really good, and you did mention. Something that 95 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: I want to ask you more about is the question 96 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: of like, well, should he have checked into that play 97 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: that go route to Diani based on the man coverage 98 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 2: that he saw there? Why not? Because the reason I'm 99 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: saying why not is because he's going to do that 100 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: in a real game. You want to be able to 101 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: see that he can process that and do that. And 102 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: I mean, did you see the cutaway to him He's 103 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: pointing over to the sideline, laughing that. Dan Quinn said, 104 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 2: this is like top gun. You just want to buzz 105 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: the tower a little bit, Like there's you want that swagger? 106 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: Don't you like? You want that from your quarterback? 107 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody earlier today, and that was 108 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: something that came out for me, was like, you know, 109 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: he understood the parameters, and they were like, you know, 110 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: apparently it sounds like they didn't want him to do 111 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: anything crazy. He interested the parameters and then he kind 112 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: of was like, I'm a baller. I want to make 113 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: a play. I want to do something crazy. So johnn 114 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: you want to come into a diver second, You're right anyway, 115 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: So that John just came in anyway. But yeah, so 116 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: I think, like you want to understand the parameters, but 117 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: I also love the confidence just to go make a play, 118 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: like you know in that clip, that viral clip at 119 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: him going around talking to the giants where it's like, hey, 120 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: what do you do on this play and he's like 121 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: throw a touchdown? Yeah, that's kind of the confidence you want. 122 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, ab All love that answer. 123 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think and I think that's what you 124 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: saw there, which again speaks it kind of informs some 125 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: of that other stuff. You know what I'm saying, some 126 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: of that that they're kind of that that gennesse Qua, 127 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: that undefinable magic of the quarterback position. Confidence is definitely 128 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: one of them. And so the fact that you are 129 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: twenty four and everyone said, oh, we don't want you 130 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: to do this, and you're like, I'm going to make 131 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: a play. Is also kind of cool. So yeah, it's 132 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing. The confidence, the composure, the delivery of 133 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: the football all lines up correctly. But yeah, it's one game, 134 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: and I think, like it's a good game and we're 135 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: excited about it, but it's it is eleven plays, so 136 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: let's keep that and where it needs to be. 137 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: We're going to come back to Jayden at the end 138 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: of this pod, so stick a, we're not done talking 139 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 2: about him, but we got to talk about the other rookies. 140 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: I mean, because they look good too. He wasn't the 141 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: only one out there putting up some good stuff. So 142 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: what did you see as far as rookies that stood 143 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: out to you in this team? 144 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in terms of like just guys right 145 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: off the jump, Yeah, I think it's fair to say 146 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: that almost every rookie played well. There's a couple exceptions, 147 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: and we can talk about them in a second, but 148 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Benson not you know, he's a guy 149 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: that in practice has been playing extremely physical, very physical 150 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: in practice, and you're kind of lacking in terms of 151 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: catching the football and making plays down the field. So 152 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: I think when you see that, you say to yourself, 153 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, you say, like, is he just going 154 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: to be kind of this fullback f move piece or 155 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: can he do some stuff attacking the seam? And like 156 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: quite literally his first catches, he's attacking the seam down 157 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: the field. You know what I'm saying, He's work. It's 158 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: cover three, does a great job working for with gets 159 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: the look to put player to wide and attack the seam. 160 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: Great ball, I forget if it was drisk glue through it. 161 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: But then you see the lower body strength, the lower 162 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 1: body power to finish that run four or five guys 163 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: trying to tackle him, which he doesn't get the show 164 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: in practice is that kind of physical, grinded out, tough 165 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: guy element of his game. So love to see that 166 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: he catches an out later in the game, really good feel, 167 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, kind of understanding how to get there in timing. 168 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: Love that. So he's a guy that definitely deserves to 169 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: get shouted out because I you know, you understood he 170 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: was physical from how he's blocking in practice. But to 171 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: see him be able to do what he did to 172 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: Kansas State, which is again more not like short intermediate, 173 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: but longer developing, seems corner type stuff. Really nice to see. 174 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: And then a guy that was was really just every 175 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: time I watch him, like really watch him as Mike 176 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: Sanders still he's he's gonna be a special football player, man. 177 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: Like it's he's so quick, he's so intuitive. I think 178 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: that's the other thing. He's got tremendous movement skills, but 179 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: he's so smart at identifying stuff, and it almost feels 180 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: like he's got like a little bit of like clairvoyance, 181 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: like he can see into the future a little bit 182 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: because he starts moving to something before everybody else does, 183 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: you know. And that's again, he's a good mover, he's 184 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: a good athlete. But I just I'm going to he's 185 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: so impressive in terms of his role as the nickel player. 186 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see if that if that becomes 187 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: his home or if they try him outside or whatever 188 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: they do. He's just a football player's football player. So 189 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: I got to give him a shout out for sure. 190 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: Where does that come from? Because a lot of people 191 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: say the game needs to slow down for you a 192 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: little bit, right like moving from college to the pros, 193 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: it's a little bit faster. It takes you a little 194 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: bit to kind of settle in, but it doesn't look 195 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: like he needs it. He made a play. I think 196 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: it was on the very first drive. He was like 197 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: in there in the backfield. He didn't get the tackle, 198 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: but he forced to play inside to where the tackle 199 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: was and got him off the field. And it's like 200 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: as a rookie, first live game action moving fast, right, 201 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: the game's not too fast? Warm Like, is that just 202 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: like he's he's just born with it? Or is that 203 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: good coaching or is a little bit of everything. 204 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: That's a really good question. You know, where does it 205 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: come from? And because if you could bottle that up 206 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: and sell it, you'd be making a ton of money. 207 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: But I do think it's it's a there's an element 208 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: of confidence, there's an element of film study. There's an 209 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: element of like natural ability in terms of processing, which 210 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: is you know, with his ticket to the draft. And 211 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: one of the things that when I go to the 212 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: combat I talk to coaches and scouts about what they're 213 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: looking for, and one of the things that they're big 214 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: on now is spatial recognition, Like how do you identify 215 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: patterns and shapes and how do you act on that 216 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: information quickly. And I don't have any inside information on 217 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: him specifically, but I would assume he tested very highly 218 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: in that specifically, and that's a that's a genetic element too, 219 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: so I think there's a lot of stuff like that 220 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 1: going on. So with him, I think, again, I just 221 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: just watching him grow, watching the speed with which he 222 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: plays the game. I think he's going to be definitely 223 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: an impactful player barring injury. And you know, we got 224 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: to talk about Jordan McGee. I thought he looked ready 225 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: for a big game, looked ready to go, looked like 226 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: he was playing college football, very similar to Mike Sandrastill. 227 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: But onlike the third play of the game, he tweaks 228 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: his knee and you know he's going in for imaging 229 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: and now he's going to miss some time and it's 230 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: just again, that's tough. But I think both those guys, 231 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: when healthy, are going to be really nice assets to 232 00:09:58,840 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: this defense. 233 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: All right throughout a name, Yeah, sure, all right, talk 234 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: to me about Tyler Owens because he's my guy. He's 235 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: he's standing out in practice. He seems to be always 236 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: be around the ball. He's a safety from Texas Tech. Yeah, yeah, 237 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to make the team. 238 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: There's a lot of depth there, but he's making plays 239 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: and he's in the right spot. It looks like to 240 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: my jack guyes, what are you say? 241 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: No, I think that's one hundred percent right. And I 242 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: think one of the things that six about six about 243 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: his performance is his ability to cover kicks man, Like 244 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: when he covers that punt, makes the tackle, Like for 245 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: a guy like him, if you want to keep, what 246 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: will he be? Like probably the fifth safety you want 247 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: to keep a guy on the fifty three he's got 248 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: you got to show some of that. So not only 249 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: has he been very productive in practice like you're saying, 250 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: but he's such a unicorn, Like we talked about him 251 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: on Ticket to the Draft, like right after he signed 252 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: his UDFA, Like he is literally one of one. He's 253 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: got thirty four inch arms, he's six to two, he's 254 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: two fifteen, two twenties. He's big, he's physical. I think 255 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: he broke the broad jump record at the combined Like 256 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: for a big man, that's incredible. He's a forty two likes, 257 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: he's incredibly explosive. He's very fast and when you watch 258 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: his college for me, like, is it going to come 259 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: together for him, and then watching him now, it's like, yeah, 260 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: like he's in these man and man situations and he's 261 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: a little handsy, but he's got good enough feet, he 262 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: can run with guys. He's physical enough to take on 263 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. He reminds me of a Curse from Dallas 264 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: last year, that big safety, kind of dime player, And 265 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: I just think it's great that he came to this system. 266 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: And it's not by accident, you know, like Adam Peters 267 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: understands what Joe Wood's looking for. They're probably in constant 268 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: communication about that position because he fits that version of 269 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: it to a t. And so I think he's a 270 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: guy that at every stage is just playing better football 271 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: than he ever showed in college. And sometimes that happens 272 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: with guys. They get around better coaching, they get around 273 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: a more professional environment, and they just blossom because, like 274 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: I one of the things about him was like how 275 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: physical is he? I have not seen him shy away 276 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: from contact. So he's a guy again, probably not you know, 277 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: top of the roster guy, but definitely someone who's making 278 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: a really hard put to be on the fifty three 279 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: manter roster and the special team stuff. The more he 280 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: can do that, the more he can flash there. So 281 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: like when you're watching the games at home, if you 282 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: see him come across the screen there like a big 283 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: blur like he did in the other other game. Like 284 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: he's getting closer and closer to saying you cannot keep 285 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: me off this thing. 286 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about Brandon Coleman. He 287 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: didn't play in this game, but what did you see 288 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 2: out of the offensive line? I know this is moving 289 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: off rookies a little bit, but I want you to 290 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: talk about what you saw on the offensive line because 291 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 2: I want to know how do you think Brandon Coleman 292 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: might fit in here once he's able to get back 293 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: out there, because the reports out of camp are that 294 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: he might be a starting left tackle and which case, 295 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: man hats off the AP and DQ for finding a 296 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: starting left tackle in the third round, that's amazing. So 297 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 2: what do you think is going to happen here in 298 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: the next joint practice Miami, the next preseason game when 299 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: it comes to Brandon Coleman? 300 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: First off, talking about a bad mess by us, You 301 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because I think I had a 302 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: listed as a guard, So I'm a little the more 303 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: I see him move at tackle and actice. The more 304 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I really didn't see that in college, 305 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: probably because most of the film we had he was 306 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: playing guard. But and he had that big neckrol on. 307 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: So he looks much better. I mean, he's a he's 308 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: just a dancing bear. He's got great length, he's got 309 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: great balance, he moves, He's a really good athlete, and 310 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: so I think all those things we've talked about at 311 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: nauseum with him are really exciting. When it comes to 312 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: his future a left tackle. I think the thing that's 313 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: disappointing for me as an evaluate, and probably for Dan 314 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: and probably for Adam Peters. I haven't talked to them, 315 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: but I'm just assuming is is they are? Is is he? 316 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: You wanted to see him against the Jets. You want 317 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: to see him participate against them, see him how he 318 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: is against other rushers, because he's kind of got a 319 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: feel for us. You know that the rushers here didn't 320 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: get it, so very disappointing. They didn't get to play 321 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: in the preseason, didn't get to play in the joint practice. 322 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: Hopefully he's healthy enough by the Miami where we're after 323 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: when we do the podcast after that game, it's like, 324 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Brandon Coleman did X Y Z and 325 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: it was all very positive or whatever. In terms of 326 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: how he fits, I think there is a very clear 327 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: path to him playing a lot, because not only did 328 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: he miss, but Cornelius Lucas missed, Wiley missed again with 329 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: that tightness stuff. So today in the game that was 330 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: Trent Scott started the game and Chris Paul started a 331 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: right tackle, So you're kind of like, again, Trent Scott, 332 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: good football player, always been kind of a career backup. 333 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: But I like how he plays. But there's a reason. 334 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: There's an athletic and a physical limitation there. Chris Paul 335 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: is probably better suited to guard, so in this game 336 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: he would have played a ton. I'm assuming right when 337 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: he'm out there playing a ton and just want to 338 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: see him play. So in terms of him playing, it's 339 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: really him versus Cornelius in terms of who's going to 340 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: get that starting left tackle spot, and I think he's 341 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: shown enough in the context of this Cliff Kingsbury offense 342 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: to say I deserve to be a starter. You know, 343 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: I deserve this role because of the amount of screens 344 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: you run, because of how you pull your offensive lineman 345 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: because of the outside zone game. Cornwall being a very 346 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: proficient pass protector struggles in those areas, and if Brandon 347 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: Coleman can add in that well, also not having a 348 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: huge drop off in patch protection, I think that's going 349 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: to really elevate the offense. So I do see a 350 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: very clear path for him. It just would have been 351 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: nice to get another data point in terms of evaluation 352 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: to say, oh, Okay, he's the light isn't on yet, 353 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: but it's very, very close. 354 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: How'd you feel about our other third round Pickluke caffrey 355 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: out there. 356 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: It was great to see Luke, and I think, you know, 357 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: I went back and I watched, like I went through 358 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: and watched a whole bunch of other prospects that we 359 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: had been talking about. Like I watched Johnny Wilson for Philly, 360 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: and I think Johnny played fine, a good blocker. But 361 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: when you see Luke McCaffrey like running routes, there's an 362 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: NFL crispness to it, an NFL understanding of deceleration, acceleration 363 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: space throwing windows. I think on the dig that he 364 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: ran it was beautiful, right he ran. I think it 365 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: was like a twelve fourteen yard incut. Good job by 366 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: Sam Hartman working through the progression, gets the ball out. 367 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: Nice job there, nineteen yards on that, Yeah, good. 368 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: And you see his lower body strength too much like Benson. 369 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: It to me they're very similar players in terms of 370 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: how you would bucket them. They're not necessarily the most 371 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: flashy players in terms of of you know, like they're 372 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: not making the one handed catches, but they understand the 373 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: game really well. And I'm glad Luke got to catch 374 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: the football a little bit and be involved in the 375 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: past game because we see him being physical in the 376 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: run game. We see him getting after guys in practice, 377 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: just hasn't as a number called and so for him 378 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: to get his number called twice in this game, I 379 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: think was Yeah, it was was great. And to see 380 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: the the athlete that we that he tested at, you know, 381 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: just like we got to see Ben Sinnett and how 382 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: he tested come out on in terms of how he played. 383 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: We got to see a little bit that with Luke, 384 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: which is great. Now he still has got to kind 385 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: of carve out a role in a niche because I 386 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: thought Oz also played really well as a kias you've 387 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: returned punts. He had a nice catch on a slant 388 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: and you see his play strength and his athleticism and 389 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: so Luke's still growing and maybe he gets to that spot. 390 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: But I do think he's competing with guys like OZI, 391 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: guys like Jamison Crowder, and he's got me Brown. Yeah, 392 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: that's a great point, Tommy Brown. So he's going to 393 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: make the team. But I think in order for him 394 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: to get significant minutes this year, you want to see 395 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: a little bit more. And again, it was nice to 396 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: see him in the in the in the preseason kind 397 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: of get some of those opportunities. 398 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: All right, Well let's end with how we began, and 399 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: that's with Jayden. Okay, all right, so moving forward, he 400 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: had a great first drive, right, everybody's excited. Everybody's happier, 401 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: at least all the fans like me. Right, we're ready. 402 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited too, So I understand what you mean. 403 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm I'm already I'm looking at when 404 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: the super Bowl is, I'm checking out when the date time. Right. 405 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 2: It's such his fandom, right, So do you put him 406 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: back out there again? 407 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: I would, yeah, I think because it was great and 408 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: we're talking about you know. 409 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: Even with joint practices, where he can get maybe more 410 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: work there, Like why throw him back out? 411 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: I think there's something okay. So so like to what 412 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: I'd say is en joint practice, oftentimes it's scripted. You're 413 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: just kind of scripting the situation, right, And that's awesome. 414 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: So I can script third down, I can script red zone, 415 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: I can script short yardage, script two minutes, and we're 416 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: going to work through our And that's great because I 417 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: don't have to wait for it in the game. I 418 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: don't have to wait for that situation to happen. But 419 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: there's also something to be said for being in the 420 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: rhythm and flow and the timing of the game and 421 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: being aware of what's happening and be like, hey man, 422 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: it's first and ten. This is the type of pressure 423 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: they want to bring. You're actually playing the game as 424 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: opposed him practice when it's like when the name of 425 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: the period is team Blitz, I better be aware of 426 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: all my blitzeres, right, But in the game, I have 427 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: to kind of make those adjustments live and a living color, 428 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: which is one of the reasons why it's so exciting 429 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: to see him do that in the first preseason game 430 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: because he's playing, he's doing it there's no scaffolding to 431 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: support him, there's no parameter of practice support him. He's 432 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: making those decisions right. He could have gotten sacked on 433 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: that play. He made the wrong decision. So there are 434 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: consequences and there's solutions that he can find. So I 435 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: think I want to see him do that more. Now, 436 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: if Dan said, hey, you know, the offensive line's not 437 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: quite where we want it to be versus this Miami 438 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: defense with some pretty talented edge rushers, I would totally 439 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: get that. I totally understand that. But I also think 440 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: that and maybe this is the old Harto in me, 441 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: like I want to see him go out and do 442 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: it again, something more complicated, something that's a little bit 443 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: more high stakes, where the starters are on the field. 444 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that's another important thing to remember about the 445 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Jets game is none of their kind of top end 446 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: defensive starters played. CJ. Mosy didn't play, as Gardner, Quinn Williams, 447 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Quentin what's his name, the defensive tackle didn't play. So 448 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 1: you're not getting the best version of the Jets. They're 449 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: not even game planning for you. I want to see 450 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: him have to operate when someone is trying to take 451 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: stuff away Let's say I'm trying to disguise my man 452 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 1: pressures right, and I do check in all go and 453 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually in his zone. 454 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 2: Drop. 455 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: What do I do then? Like, what's my solution? Do 456 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: I take a sack? How do I kind of have 457 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: that second reaction moment there? So? 458 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 2: Are you going to get that in preseason though? 459 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: In so in the third preseason game used to get 460 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: stuff like that quite a bit, used to get like those, 461 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: like the third preseason game felt like a real game 462 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: from a back when you played four, back when you 463 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: played four. Yeah, so now the second one kind of 464 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: carries some of that same weight, at least it did 465 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: last year, So I would assume. So, yes, now maybe 466 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: again because of the offense, the line, because everything that's 467 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: going on. They say, hey, we're okay, you're going to 468 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: go out there for a series. Marcus got a couple 469 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: and we'll come back in. That could totally happen, and 470 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: I totally get that. But I want to see him 471 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: go for at least a quarter, maybe a quarter and 472 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: a half, you know, and execute and think and go 473 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: through some adversity and see what happens. 474 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, A part of me, in this weird way he 475 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: wants to see like two drives stall out, like a 476 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: three and out, just to see the demeanor. Yeah, see 477 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: how he approaches it because he's never going to go 478 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: out there and every drive is going to be a touchdown, right, 479 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: There's going to be tough drives. So how does how 480 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: do they bounce back? I don't know if you see 481 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: that in the preseason, Honestly, I don't know if that 482 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: like if you're going to get that if three failed 483 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: drives or you get two three and outs, if they're 484 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: going to send them back out right, I don't know, 485 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: but I'd like to see it just because he looks 486 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: like he has a swagger and I want to see 487 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: him be like, all right, let's go boys, I'm going 488 00:20:58,800 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: to get it. 489 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: This time, right, I think that's exactly I think. 490 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 2: From behind. I want to see him playing from behind. 491 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Playing from behind, third and long, just how you handle 492 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: the game, because that's what it is and it doesn't 493 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: and it's still the preseason, so it's not the end 494 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: of the world if it doesn't go well, right. 495 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: Right, it's just wanting to see those situations because you're 496 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: going to pop up they are. 497 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: Right and again, like if Dan and Adam and the 498 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: whole staff make a decision that they don't want to go. 499 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: That's totally fine and I respect that, but as as 500 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: an evaluator, I would want to see him. You know, again, hey, 501 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: the drive didn't go well, how do we handle that? 502 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: You know? Oh, hey, we're in third and ten, Like 503 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: they like to bring a pressure here, like how do 504 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: I handle that? So lots of stuff like that, and 505 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: again you don't It's not going to be dialed up 506 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: to eleven like it is in season, but it's going 507 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: to be more than it was this last game. 508 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: This is looking like a great draft class logan in 509 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 2: not going Wood, This is this is start as something 510 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: special with AP and DQ here, with bringing in the 511 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 2: right talent from the draft. Man, I'm so excited from 512 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: watching these guys in the middle of the night holding 513 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: my baby right and evaluating their college state to them 514 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: here now here now, and it's super exciting. 515 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's it's incredibly exciting. And this has 516 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: been a really cool process for me because usually I 517 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: just drop them off, like to take the kids to 518 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: school at the draft and just drop them off. But 519 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: now it's been kind of fun to see the qualities 520 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: and those intangibles that we were talking about, how they 521 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: manifest themselves on a team. 522 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: So yeah, the same thing. I mean, Miami has some 523 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: guys that we were high on or just watching in general. 524 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see Chop out there. 525 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Patrick, Paul's down there, Paul. 526 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: Why am I blinking on the running backs? 527 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: Sname not Carter but the kid from Tennessee, right yeah, right, yeah. 528 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 2: So yeah, just excited to see those guys. And last week, Yeah, 529 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: Miami's fast. 530 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: Very fast, very fast. So that's the other thing you 531 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: want to see is how he handles all that speed 532 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: defensively and offensively. 533 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm lucky enough to be at joint practice this week, 534 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing I just need to flex a 535 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: little bit, but I'm looking forward to seeing that speed 536 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: and how we can handle. 537 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: The comment is that just a guy behavior and that 538 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: seems like big time behavior. I think you're graduating out 539 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: of that, Moniker, honestly. 540 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh the b I G Jason, right, G. 541 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, Jack, Jason. 542 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: All right, Logan, Uh have fun down there. You're going 543 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: to be on the radio. 544 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be on the radio. I'll see you down there. 545 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: We'll hang out a little bit. 546 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, London's going to be there. Yeah, that's how you 547 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: really big time. This is when you hang out with London. 548 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: Fletcher, London does all. I got dinner with London when 549 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: I was out there, and I was like, that's the 550 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: this is pretty cool. That's thanks for listening. Guys. Please 551 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: make sure you can subscribe to get your podcast. 552 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: That's it. 553 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: That's it.