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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. If

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Speaker 1: I am reading the dictator, Jay Trump t leaves correctly.

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Speaker 1: He has just revealed that, if elected, he intends to

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Speaker 1: prosecute Joe Biden for quote stealing unquote the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: US presidential election. Yes, I am serious, use the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice to prove the twenty twenty election was stolen

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Speaker 1: from him, and that it was stolen by Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: undercover of that abortion band three card Monte video. At

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Speaker 1: twelve twenty nine yesterday morning, Trump posted simply all caps

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Speaker 1: Biden trials, three exclamation points that may have mystified truth

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Speaker 1: social readers more than the plummeting value mystified truth social stockholders.

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Speaker 1: But to others, those two words Biden trials were a

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Speaker 1: simple confirmation of an axio story that went right over

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Speaker 1: the heads of everybody else in American politics except a

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Speaker 1: couple of us who also failed because we were too

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Speaker 1: busy with the abortion. I'll leave it to the States,

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Speaker 1: except I won't say I'll veto a band overruling the States.

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Speaker 1: Not so slight of hand. Abortion video and the axio

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Speaker 1: story itself just scratched the surface here in short Biden trials,

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Speaker 1: Trump is promising them. He did it on social media

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Speaker 1: cryptically as always, but somebody in his campaign did it. Monday,

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Speaker 1: when Axios quoted a source close to the Trump campaign

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Speaker 1: as saying they planned to prosecute Joe Biden, presumably for

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Speaker 1: classified document retention, for espionage, for corrupt business practices, for

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Stormy Daniels, for what this evil little

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Speaker 1: Chuck Grassley spawn Mike Davis has called illegal foreign corruption.

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Speaker 1: The quote to Axios everything you have seen from the

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Speaker 1: Biden DOJ you can't expect to see from the Trump DOJ.

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Speaker 1: Everything unspoken in the Axios piece. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: give them any ideas, but knowing Trump for forty years

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Speaker 1: as I do, and watching his madness and his opportunities grow.

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Speaker 1: When Axios quotes the proverbial source close to saying everything

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Speaker 1: you have seen from the Biden DOJ you can expect

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Speaker 1: to see from the Trump DOJ, I assume that it

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Speaker 1: must be taken literally and everything from the Trump viewpoint

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Speaker 1: would include Would it start with some kind of funhouse

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Speaker 1: mirror parallel in which Trump prosecutes Biden over the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty election. What would that be Trump prosecuting Biden for

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Speaker 1: stealing the twenty twenty election. It has to be in

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Speaker 1: Trump's mind. It has to be one of the bedrock

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Speaker 1: principles of Trump's life, and his brain damage has been

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Speaker 1: that for him to be innocent, somebody else has to

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Speaker 1: be guilty. For him to be successful, somebody else has

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Speaker 1: to be a failure. It is not in the Axios piece,

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Speaker 1: It is not in the two word post. But what

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Speaker 1: else matters to Trump? What else has he talked about

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Speaker 1: in his world? Defeat is death, and he has been

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Speaker 1: experiencing a living death since bluntly the moment Fox News

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Speaker 1: called Arizona for Biden. All of this, since that moment,

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Speaker 1: all of this, the attempt to overthrow the government of

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Speaker 1: the United States of America, all of it, all of it,

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Speaker 1: since all of it, is about proving to everybody in

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Speaker 1: the world for all time that he Trump did not lose,

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Speaker 1: does not lose, cannot lose. Nothing more complicated than that.

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Speaker 1: The world is secondary to Trump's need for everybody to

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Speaker 1: agree he's right and all others are wrong. He would

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Speaker 1: destroy the planet rather than admit defeat. Now he might

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Speaker 1: have to settle for lesser prosecutions of President Biden, or

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Speaker 1: he might lay them out sequentially so that a Biden

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Speaker 1: and becomes a rationale for violating the twenty second Amendment

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Speaker 1: that twenty seventeen to twenty twenty one didn't really count

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Speaker 1: time during it defending himself when he was, you know,

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Speaker 1: caw accepting illegal foreign help in the twenty sixteen campaign.

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Speaker 1: He floated postponing the twenty twenty election, were even somehow

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Speaker 1: proving somehow that he did not lose in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: It's just my guess, but I'm right. What Axios reported,

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Speaker 1: and the overnight Trump Biden trials post hint at more

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Speaker 1: immediately is the exact kind of politically motivated, factually starved,

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Speaker 1: retributive nothing but the revenge fantasies of a psychopath and

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Speaker 1: his slaves' actions that Trump has claimed the prosecution of

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Speaker 1: his actual and amazingly large number of crimes is the

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Speaker 1: James Comer pile premature jocularity impeachment plot, once the centerpiece

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Speaker 1: now morphing from something that was intended to assure Trump's

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Speaker 1: election into something designed to follow it. Just yesterday, Comer

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Speaker 1: Alexander Smirnoff still in jail without bail as an international

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Speaker 1: relevant to the investigation and he Comer is a victim

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Speaker 1: to be an impeachment. Well, we made it look like

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Speaker 1: what it looks like by quoting Comer when he said

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Speaker 1: that Smirnoff was quote a very crucial piece of the

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Speaker 1: impeachment probe, which is now resembling the last chapter of

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Speaker 1: Moby Dick, where Captain Ahab not only does not get

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Speaker 1: the whale, but winds up wrapped to the whale as

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Speaker 1: the whale submerges and then rams his ship, killing everybody

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Speaker 1: but Ishmael while America laughs. Moby Dick starring James Comer

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Speaker 1: as Dick. This does not mean that Comer will not

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Speaker 1: be leaving a few harpoons for his own successors. He

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Speaker 1: is now fundraising off a post mortem promise noted in

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Speaker 1: the Axios piece about Trump prosecuting Biden, a fundraising quote

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Speaker 1: that reads, Trump returns to the White House. It's critical

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Speaker 1: the new leadership at the DOJ have everything they need

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Speaker 1: to prosecute the Biden crime family and deliver swift justice

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Speaker 1: criminal referrals. What would Trump want more than anything else?

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Speaker 1: Some Trump appointed judge somewhere overseeing a trial at which

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Speaker 1: it is declared that he was the rightful winner of

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election and Biden was the one who

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Speaker 1: stole from him. I think if you made him that

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Speaker 1: as an offer right now, he'd leave the country in

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Speaker 1: exchange for that. While we and I include myself among

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Speaker 1: those distracted by the shiny object of that stupid abortion

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Speaker 1: band video, were distracted, Trump had it in fact, pulled

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Speaker 1: off a total of at least two other masks. The

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Speaker 1: removal of two other masks besides the one in which

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Speaker 1: he personally revealed plans to prosecute the president and his family.

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Speaker 1: The second mask, he's letting a little bit more of

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Speaker 1: his anti semi smotism show. Now he has announced that

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Speaker 1: American Jews who don't support him do not love Israel

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Speaker 1: and quote should be spoken to. And then there is

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Speaker 1: the third mask, the dictator mask. In brand new polling

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Speaker 1: of those backing him, more than half of Republicans want

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Speaker 1: him to rule without quote waiting for without too much

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Speaker 1: interference from the courts and Congress. In other words, they

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Speaker 1: want to dictator. So remember, whoever Trump picks as his

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Speaker 1: running mate, he or she is a placeholder. His campaign

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Speaker 1: is actually Trump Hitler. Twenty twenty four, The anti Semitism

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Speaker 1: It was late Monday night on an even for the

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Speaker 1: just to up the anti wrote on Easter Week he

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Speaker 1: had risen and so has Trump. Uh here we go.

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Speaker 2: Biden is no fan of Israel. Any Jewish person that

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Speaker 2: votes for Biden does not love Israel, and frankly that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing dangerous or ominous in that Huh, Jews

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Speaker 1: who support Biden hate Israel. Jews who vote for Democrats quote,

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Speaker 1: should be spoken to? And when would those votes for

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Speaker 1: Democrats be well in November, and so who would be

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Speaker 1: spoken to. I have gone through this endlessly. Trump may

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Speaker 1: or may not be an ideological anti Semite. He may

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Speaker 1: not carry with him some specific targeted madness against Jewish people,

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Speaker 1: but so what. Any group he perceives as seeking his

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Speaker 1: protect or interference, he exploits. Any group he perceives as

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Speaker 1: vulnerable or disliked or easily persecuted, he scapegoats, and thanks

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Speaker 1: the German Nazis of Jewish Germans in say, nineteen thirty two.

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Speaker 1: All his interactions with Jews are predicated on what he

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Speaker 1: he has done things for Israel, Therefore they owe him.

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Speaker 1: on the Trump scapegoat list, not now anyway. The point

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Speaker 1: backing him will deliver an authoritarian, despotic strongman rule America,

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Speaker 1: it fits the posts. Blake has been keeping the receipts,

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight percent of Democrats agreed with that. Fifty six

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Speaker 1: quote strong president who should be allowed to rule without

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Speaker 1: UMass Amherst asked Republicans about Trump's prompt to be dictator

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Speaker 1: Do we need a commander in chief? Fox asked who

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Speaker 1: will break some quote rules and laws, quote note and laws.

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Speaker 1: Thirty percent of Trump's twenty twenty voters said, yes, break

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Speaker 1: some rules and laws. Well, once your president has broken

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Speaker 1: some laws, and I mean lots of laws, what's the

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Speaker 1: Hirolo Rivera, Oh sweet Jesus on hockey skates. So this preening,

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm not sure about you, but I would

430
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Speaker 1: have taken this humiliation with me to my grave, not

431
00:30:35,915 --> 00:30:40,835
Speaker 1: eraldo Rivera. He paid for that ripping blue check mark

432
00:30:41,035 --> 00:30:44,635
Speaker 1: and he's going to use it. Larry, who I've never met.

433
00:30:45,395 --> 00:30:48,955
Speaker 1: Oh wait, that's the point, right, I mean, he successfully

434
00:30:48,995 --> 00:30:49,835
Speaker 1: avoided meeting you.

435
00:30:49,955 --> 00:30:50,475
Speaker 3: Hilarious.

436
00:30:50,795 --> 00:30:54,595
Speaker 1: I mean, hereldo, Larry who I've never met, apparently was

437
00:30:54,635 --> 00:30:58,075
Speaker 1: taking his cue from the famous fox hater renting the

438
00:30:58,075 --> 00:31:02,635
Speaker 1: big place next door, visible through the bushes separating the properties.

439
00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:06,155
Speaker 1: President Barack Obama fuse to make the two minute walk

440
00:31:06,195 --> 00:31:10,835
Speaker 1: over to Dirsh's place for the same reason fear a fox.

441
00:31:13,795 --> 00:31:17,275
Speaker 1: So wait now, Heraldo, Hilary David refused to meet you

442
00:31:17,435 --> 00:31:27,275
Speaker 1: because this was a conspiracy directed by Barack Obama. Thanks Obama, Gee, Heraldo,

443
00:31:27,355 --> 00:31:30,835
Speaker 1: I can't imagine why anybody wouldn't want to meet you. Now,

444
00:31:31,075 --> 00:31:34,675
Speaker 1: every time I see Larry being crude, rude and intolerant

445
00:31:34,675 --> 00:31:37,715
Speaker 1: on television, I say, that's him. That really is Larry David,

446
00:31:37,915 --> 00:31:39,595
Speaker 1: and he's not acting.

447
00:31:40,915 --> 00:31:41,075
Speaker 3: Now.

448
00:31:41,075 --> 00:31:43,475
Speaker 1: Again, as I've mentioned before, I'm not a close friend

449
00:31:43,475 --> 00:31:47,475
Speaker 1: of Larry David's. I think we visited twice. We had

450
00:31:47,595 --> 00:31:50,595
Speaker 1: lunch once, a lovely lunch with Bill Scheft here in

451
00:31:50,635 --> 00:31:54,275
Speaker 1: New York several years ago. But I find him delightful.

452
00:31:54,555 --> 00:31:57,955
Speaker 1: He did the introductions for the show. He managed to

453
00:31:57,995 --> 00:32:00,675
Speaker 1: do that, you know, what is involved in getting him

454
00:32:00,675 --> 00:32:04,195
Speaker 1: to record something like that. He's a lovely guy and

455
00:32:04,995 --> 00:32:08,555
Speaker 1: the best, absolutely the best audience in the world laughed

456
00:32:08,555 --> 00:32:13,635
Speaker 1: at my jokes as if I were funny compared to him. Also,

457
00:32:13,675 --> 00:32:16,235
Speaker 1: I've never met Heralda Rivera, but Heralder Rivera has been

458
00:32:16,275 --> 00:32:20,395
Speaker 1: taking weird shots at me, not as weird as insisting.

459
00:32:20,435 --> 00:32:22,995
Speaker 1: Obama had told me, whatever you do, don't shake Heralder

460
00:32:23,075 --> 00:32:26,355
Speaker 1: Rivera's hand. It's a conspiracy to keep Paralda Rivera from

461
00:32:26,395 --> 00:32:30,315
Speaker 1: meeting Larry David. Sure it is okay, You're fine, you

462
00:32:30,395 --> 00:32:35,355
Speaker 1: don't have mental problems. But nevertheless, Heralder Rivera has been

463
00:32:35,355 --> 00:32:39,515
Speaker 1: taking weird shots at me since nineteen ninety seven. In

464
00:32:39,555 --> 00:32:42,035
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, when I got back into cable news,

465
00:32:42,155 --> 00:32:45,395
Speaker 1: I called him out on the air. Now I was

466
00:32:45,395 --> 00:32:48,115
Speaker 1: not alone in this, and I wasn't even at the

467
00:32:48,155 --> 00:32:52,235
Speaker 1: forefront of this. I did this along with most of America. When,

468
00:32:52,355 --> 00:32:55,435
Speaker 1: while with a US military unit during the Iraq War,

469
00:32:55,835 --> 00:33:00,075
Speaker 1: Heralda Rivera went on Fox made an on camera presentation

470
00:33:00,475 --> 00:33:03,275
Speaker 1: in which he did some drawing in the sand, and,

471
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:06,795
Speaker 1: to quote the Pentagon, the commander felt that he Rivera

472
00:33:06,915 --> 00:33:11,955
Speaker 1: had compromised operational information by reporting the position and movements

473
00:33:12,075 --> 00:33:16,315
Speaker 1: of the troops. The US military ordered Heralda Rivera out

474
00:33:16,355 --> 00:33:19,955
Speaker 1: of Iraq. It was in all the papers and I

475
00:33:20,035 --> 00:33:23,195
Speaker 1: reported it on MSNBC and then he called me a

476
00:33:23,235 --> 00:33:26,315
Speaker 1: punk or something. And then four years later I referred

477
00:33:26,355 --> 00:33:28,955
Speaker 1: to him as Bill O'Reilly's sidekick on Fox and he

478
00:33:29,035 --> 00:33:32,035
Speaker 1: called me a quote coward who wouldn't walk across the

479
00:33:32,035 --> 00:33:34,195
Speaker 1: street against the red light. And he said he was

480
00:33:34,235 --> 00:33:37,635
Speaker 1: ready to fight me. And I should be scared because

481
00:33:37,635 --> 00:33:43,555
Speaker 1: Heralder Rivera owned a machete and a mustache gee. Heralder,

482
00:33:43,675 --> 00:33:47,955
Speaker 1: I can't imagine why anybody wouldn't want to meet you. Actually,

483
00:33:47,995 --> 00:33:50,915
Speaker 1: this whole thing does stem back to nineteen ninety seven.

484
00:33:50,955 --> 00:33:54,875
Speaker 1: He had a show on CNBC and MSNBC hired me

485
00:33:54,915 --> 00:33:58,435
Speaker 1: to do its eight pm show, and MSNBC and NBC

486
00:33:58,515 --> 00:34:01,715
Speaker 1: New spent some money on ads on buses in New

487
00:34:01,795 --> 00:34:05,475
Speaker 1: York City and a lot of ads in NewSpace. Ads

488
00:34:05,475 --> 00:34:07,635
Speaker 1: that showed me and Brian Williams, who did the nine

489
00:34:07,635 --> 00:34:10,395
Speaker 1: o'clock show on MSNBC back to back, you get it,

490
00:34:10,675 --> 00:34:13,475
Speaker 1: we were on a day to get back to back. Supposedly,

491
00:34:13,515 --> 00:34:16,595
Speaker 1: they spend a million dollars on advertising but most of

492
00:34:16,635 --> 00:34:19,235
Speaker 1: that would have been on MSNBC, and they counted it

493
00:34:19,275 --> 00:34:22,955
Speaker 1: for accounting purposes. Well, in any event, Heraldo Rivera went

494
00:34:23,075 --> 00:34:26,115
Speaker 1: ballistic about these ads. He complained to one of the

495
00:34:26,115 --> 00:34:28,875
Speaker 1: political newsletters on the record, and they printed it, and

496
00:34:28,915 --> 00:34:31,875
Speaker 1: I've got it somewhere in my files. He went on

497
00:34:31,915 --> 00:34:34,275
Speaker 1: the record with one of the political newsletters, saying it

498
00:34:34,315 --> 00:34:38,075
Speaker 1: was outrageous and offensive that NBC was spending its ad

499
00:34:38,115 --> 00:34:43,475
Speaker 1: money on me rather than on him. So this takes

500
00:34:43,555 --> 00:34:46,635
Speaker 1: us back to the present moment. Rivera puts out this sad,

501
00:34:46,795 --> 00:34:51,555
Speaker 1: self owning, amazingly self unaware tweet about Larry David joining

502
00:34:51,795 --> 00:34:54,275
Speaker 1: the former president of the United States on what is

503
00:34:54,315 --> 00:34:58,555
Speaker 1: apparently a long, long, long list of people who would

504
00:34:58,635 --> 00:35:04,235
Speaker 1: rather run than meet. Heralda Rivera and I replied to

505
00:35:04,755 --> 00:35:07,875
Speaker 1: Raldo's tweet or post or whatever it was with a

506
00:35:07,915 --> 00:35:10,515
Speaker 1: short but accurate insult. Well, this set him off again.

507
00:35:11,355 --> 00:35:13,395
Speaker 1: As you may have noticed, it's not difficult to set

508
00:35:13,475 --> 00:35:17,115
Speaker 1: him off. But remember he's a star. He works for

509
00:35:18,195 --> 00:35:24,515
Speaker 1: Chech's Notes News Nation, which in the January ratings averaged

510
00:35:24,915 --> 00:35:29,835
Speaker 1: seventy five thousand viewers, which is nearly three quarters of

511
00:35:29,875 --> 00:35:34,395
Speaker 1: the audience of this podcast. And it only costs NewsNation

512
00:35:34,835 --> 00:35:38,675
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars to produce NewsNation, whereas I

513
00:35:38,795 --> 00:35:42,675
Speaker 1: do this in my suit closet with the help of

514
00:35:42,715 --> 00:35:49,755
Speaker 1: my dogs and an iPad. So Heraldo wrote something nasty

515
00:35:49,755 --> 00:35:51,675
Speaker 1: about me in response about how he didn't know I

516
00:35:51,715 --> 00:35:54,195
Speaker 1: was still alive. Now, I would have mentioned all this yesterday,

517
00:35:54,275 --> 00:35:57,195
Speaker 1: but of course I did not know that Heraldo had

518
00:35:57,235 --> 00:36:01,715
Speaker 1: written this really novel thing about how you didn't know

519
00:36:01,755 --> 00:36:04,875
Speaker 1: I was still alive. I did not know it much

520
00:36:04,955 --> 00:36:09,155
Speaker 1: later because Heraldo, being a genius, blocked me on Twitter

521
00:36:09,395 --> 00:36:14,155
Speaker 1: X then wrote his very original snarky reply, which is

522
00:36:14,195 --> 00:36:16,115
Speaker 1: how you would do it also if you were too

523
00:36:16,195 --> 00:36:19,235
Speaker 1: afraid that the guy you were insulting might actually read

524
00:36:19,315 --> 00:36:22,995
Speaker 1: what you wrote, which is I guess what happened. All

525
00:36:23,075 --> 00:36:26,475
Speaker 1: I know after that was, of course, of course he

526
00:36:26,555 --> 00:36:28,915
Speaker 1: did not know I was still alive. You've seen his

527
00:36:28,995 --> 00:36:33,635
Speaker 1: work pretty much doesn't know an effing thing all Because

528
00:36:34,075 --> 00:36:39,235
Speaker 1: after that long screed against Larry David, I had replied, quote,

529
00:36:39,915 --> 00:36:46,035
Speaker 1: maybe everybody hates you just because you suck so Graaldo,

530
00:36:46,715 --> 00:36:50,315
Speaker 1: maybe everybody does hate you just because you suck rivera

531
00:36:50,995 --> 00:37:14,555
Speaker 1: two days worse person and the world now from the

532
00:37:14,595 --> 00:37:16,635
Speaker 1: files of things I promised not to tell. And I

533
00:37:16,675 --> 00:37:20,955
Speaker 1: recently went past the building, my second professional home, and

534
00:37:21,035 --> 00:37:23,795
Speaker 1: I was flooded with my memories of a place called

535
00:37:24,475 --> 00:37:29,635
Speaker 1: the RKO Radio Network. This is nineteen eighty and I'm

536
00:37:29,675 --> 00:37:32,235
Speaker 1: nearing my twenty second birthday, and I'm working real hard

537
00:37:32,275 --> 00:37:35,035
Speaker 1: at one radio network run by the United pres International

538
00:37:35,075 --> 00:37:39,475
Speaker 1: Wire Service, in my second year and making around well

539
00:37:39,635 --> 00:37:43,635
Speaker 1: nearly twenty thousand dollars a year. And in September, a

540
00:37:43,835 --> 00:37:46,875
Speaker 1: drunken manager had tried to get me fired, tried to

541
00:37:46,915 --> 00:37:51,875
Speaker 1: fire me himself for being young. And I'll be damned

542
00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:54,235
Speaker 1: if I can remember getting consecutive days off there. This

543
00:37:54,355 --> 00:37:56,835
Speaker 1: was UPI in a nutshell. For my first few weeks there,

544
00:37:56,875 --> 00:38:00,115
Speaker 1: I thought whoever had decorated the newsroom had found the

545
00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:03,875
Speaker 1: floor tiles with the ugliest design pattern in history. And

546
00:38:03,915 --> 00:38:08,075
Speaker 1: then finally I saw a colleague grind his lit cigarette

547
00:38:08,075 --> 00:38:10,835
Speaker 1: into that floor, and only then did I realize that

548
00:38:10,955 --> 00:38:15,355
Speaker 1: was what the ugly design pattern was. Hundreds of ground

549
00:38:15,435 --> 00:38:21,275
Speaker 1: out cigarettes, years and years of ground out cigarettes in

550
00:38:21,315 --> 00:38:26,395
Speaker 1: the tiles. Anyway, the main advantage to working at UPI

551
00:38:26,555 --> 00:38:29,515
Speaker 1: was that everybody in what was then a flourishing radio

552
00:38:29,595 --> 00:38:33,275
Speaker 1: business knew UPI, and thus they knew you, and they

553
00:38:33,355 --> 00:38:37,275
Speaker 1: knew you were underpaid. The top all news radio station

554
00:38:37,355 --> 00:38:40,235
Speaker 1: in the country, WCBS in New York, had already asked

555
00:38:40,635 --> 00:38:42,915
Speaker 1: if I might be a candidate for a coming opening

556
00:38:42,955 --> 00:38:46,595
Speaker 1: in their sports department the previous spring. I'd actually interviewed

557
00:38:46,595 --> 00:38:50,075
Speaker 1: with two vice presidents at this thing. The yachtsman Ted Turner,

558
00:38:50,075 --> 00:38:52,555
Speaker 1: who owned the Atlanta Braves, was going to try to

559
00:38:52,595 --> 00:38:56,675
Speaker 1: start something he called cable news network, but they were

560
00:38:56,675 --> 00:38:59,155
Speaker 1: not initially interested in me, and after meeting with them,

561
00:38:59,155 --> 00:39:01,235
Speaker 1: I was certain they would never get it launched, let

562
00:39:01,315 --> 00:39:05,595
Speaker 1: alone get an audience for it. I was working there

563
00:39:05,635 --> 00:39:09,315
Speaker 1: literally fourteen months later. Had also been flown to Boston,

564
00:39:10,315 --> 00:39:13,115
Speaker 1: like they spent fifty five dollars on me by a

565
00:39:13,195 --> 00:39:15,555
Speaker 1: radio station that really wanted me to do a morning

566
00:39:15,635 --> 00:39:19,515
Speaker 1: sports shift for them, and they were offering forty thousand

567
00:39:19,555 --> 00:39:22,675
Speaker 1: dollars a year, twice my salary, and I was ready

568
00:39:22,675 --> 00:39:24,715
Speaker 1: to do it. And I was sitting in the office

569
00:39:24,755 --> 00:39:26,715
Speaker 1: in Boston trying to figure out where I could live

570
00:39:26,795 --> 00:39:28,635
Speaker 1: and how late I could sleep and still get there

571
00:39:28,635 --> 00:39:31,715
Speaker 1: in the morning. And then the news director said, now,

572
00:39:31,795 --> 00:39:33,995
Speaker 1: except if there's a big story, you can do the

573
00:39:34,075 --> 00:39:39,195
Speaker 1: afternoon sports cast from home over the phone, which is

574
00:39:39,275 --> 00:39:41,195
Speaker 1: when I realized I was supposed to do the morning

575
00:39:41,595 --> 00:39:43,995
Speaker 1: and the afternoon. I was essentially on the clock from

576
00:39:44,075 --> 00:39:46,835
Speaker 1: five am to six pm, and the forty thousand dollars

577
00:39:46,875 --> 00:39:48,955
Speaker 1: would have had to go to my sister because the

578
00:39:48,995 --> 00:39:53,435
Speaker 1: schedule would have killed me within three months. And then

579
00:39:53,475 --> 00:39:57,075
Speaker 1: there was this RKO radio network. UPI was in the

580
00:39:57,195 --> 00:40:01,635
Speaker 1: unique position of having RKO as a client, so RKO

581
00:40:01,875 --> 00:40:05,755
Speaker 1: heard and used our stuff all the time time. And

582
00:40:05,995 --> 00:40:10,035
Speaker 1: also they had from their beginning used our UPI feed

583
00:40:10,035 --> 00:40:13,675
Speaker 1: as a kind of twenty four to seven constantly flowing

584
00:40:13,875 --> 00:40:18,515
Speaker 1: turned on spigot audition service. From the time I got

585
00:40:18,555 --> 00:40:21,155
Speaker 1: to UPI in July nineteen seventy nine, it seemed like

586
00:40:21,195 --> 00:40:25,355
Speaker 1: one radio person from UPI per month was hired away

587
00:40:25,395 --> 00:40:29,635
Speaker 1: by RKO. Sometime in the early autumn of nineteen eighty,

588
00:40:29,675 --> 00:40:31,715
Speaker 1: I was covering a New York Rangers game at Madison

589
00:40:31,755 --> 00:40:33,755
Speaker 1: Square Garden, and the guy next to me, smoking a

590
00:40:33,835 --> 00:40:37,355
Speaker 1: cigar inside the garden, right in front of all the fans,

591
00:40:38,075 --> 00:40:40,955
Speaker 1: turned out to be the sports director of this RKO network.

592
00:40:40,955 --> 00:40:44,715
Speaker 1: In fact, he was the entirety of the RKO sports department,

593
00:40:45,115 --> 00:40:48,195
Speaker 1: but we're doubling in size. I'm going to start doing

594
00:40:48,235 --> 00:40:50,195
Speaker 1: weekend sports casts, and I get to hire a new

595
00:40:50,235 --> 00:40:53,435
Speaker 1: person to do the weekends. It's a union shop, so

596
00:40:53,435 --> 00:40:56,315
Speaker 1: it's fifty one dollars a sports cast. After there's ten

597
00:40:56,355 --> 00:40:58,675
Speaker 1: a weekend, So you get to twenty two for eighty

598
00:40:58,675 --> 00:41:01,835
Speaker 1: dollars to reports for reports from the field, and you'd

599
00:41:01,875 --> 00:41:04,875
Speaker 1: be my backup. Twenty two bucks from the field to

600
00:41:04,875 --> 00:41:07,915
Speaker 1: guarantee of five ten weekend and you got to come

601
00:41:07,955 --> 00:41:10,235
Speaker 1: in one day a week to book the stringers for

602
00:41:10,235 --> 00:41:13,715
Speaker 1: the weekend games. That'd be free, but the guarantee is

603
00:41:13,715 --> 00:41:17,275
Speaker 1: twenty six thousand dollars plus those twenty two dollars every

604
00:41:17,315 --> 00:41:21,715
Speaker 1: time you have file a report from the field. You're interested. Well,

605
00:41:21,755 --> 00:41:24,435
Speaker 1: I did some quick math. This was about forty percent

606
00:41:24,595 --> 00:41:28,715
Speaker 1: more money for about forty percent less work. And there

607
00:41:28,715 --> 00:41:32,755
Speaker 1: were no five am to six pm schedules. When the

608
00:41:32,755 --> 00:41:34,995
Speaker 1: sports director called me back a few weeks later to

609
00:41:35,035 --> 00:41:39,035
Speaker 1: offer me the gig, I did not hesitate. His name,

610
00:41:39,075 --> 00:41:42,075
Speaker 1: by the way, was Charlie Steiner. Charlie would later be

611
00:41:42,195 --> 00:41:44,235
Speaker 1: a colleague of mine at Sports Center, and then he

612
00:41:44,275 --> 00:41:46,875
Speaker 1: did the Yankees games, and now he does the Dodgers games,

613
00:41:46,875 --> 00:41:50,275
Speaker 1: and he's been a friend for forty two years. The

614
00:41:50,315 --> 00:41:54,115
Speaker 1: network itself was also space age, shiny and new, and

615
00:41:54,155 --> 00:41:59,995
Speaker 1: it had carpets, whereas UPI had the stubbed out cigarettes decorps.

616
00:42:00,395 --> 00:42:03,035
Speaker 1: RKO was literally the first radio network in this country

617
00:42:03,075 --> 00:42:08,075
Speaker 1: to deliver all of its programs to its stations via satellite.

618
00:42:08,195 --> 00:42:11,995
Speaker 1: No more scratchy, hyper expensive phone lines. RKO came through

619
00:42:12,195 --> 00:42:15,115
Speaker 1: crystal clear, and that was our pitch to the stations.

620
00:42:15,355 --> 00:42:18,475
Speaker 1: All the newscasts, all the sports casts, all the features

621
00:42:18,595 --> 00:42:22,355
Speaker 1: ended with the same tagline, ya satellite, This is the

622
00:42:22,475 --> 00:42:27,715
Speaker 1: RKO Radio Network, And then a spot for Hubba Bubba

623
00:42:27,755 --> 00:42:30,835
Speaker 1: Gum for my first few weeks there. Part of the

624
00:42:30,955 --> 00:42:34,995
Speaker 1: job also included doing two sportscasts today for RKO's local

625
00:42:35,035 --> 00:42:39,155
Speaker 1: station WOIR. The first time I went up in the

626
00:42:39,195 --> 00:42:41,515
Speaker 1: elevator to their studio, it dawned on me that it

627
00:42:41,595 --> 00:42:45,195
Speaker 1: was the exact same studio where seven years before I

628
00:42:45,235 --> 00:42:47,675
Speaker 1: had been invited by the great comedians Bob Elliott and

629
00:42:47,755 --> 00:42:51,595
Speaker 1: Ray Goulding along with my dad to sit and watch

630
00:42:51,715 --> 00:42:55,395
Speaker 1: in amazed appreciation as Bob and Ray did their show

631
00:42:55,475 --> 00:43:00,595
Speaker 1: on WOR. So basically as of December nineteen eighty, I

632
00:43:00,675 --> 00:43:06,395
Speaker 1: had accomplished all of my childhood goals. The only problem

633
00:43:06,435 --> 00:43:09,955
Speaker 1: with the place was the location. RKO was on the

634
00:43:09,955 --> 00:43:13,595
Speaker 1: southeast corner of Times Square, probably the low watermark in

635
00:43:13,635 --> 00:43:16,915
Speaker 1: the history of Times Square. It was in fourteen forty

636
00:43:16,955 --> 00:43:19,875
Speaker 1: Broadway at the corner of fortieth Street. There was a

637
00:43:19,915 --> 00:43:22,995
Speaker 1: back door at forty first Street and sixth Avenue, right

638
00:43:23,035 --> 00:43:27,275
Speaker 1: across from Bryant Park. On those occasions when I filled

639
00:43:27,275 --> 00:43:31,075
Speaker 1: in for Charlie Steiner on the weekdays for his morning show,

640
00:43:31,075 --> 00:43:34,595
Speaker 1: which they would tape overnight, I would often be at

641
00:43:34,635 --> 00:43:37,515
Speaker 1: the studios until two or three am, and my walk

642
00:43:37,515 --> 00:43:40,395
Speaker 1: home was a little sketchy. In point, in fact, I

643
00:43:40,395 --> 00:43:43,515
Speaker 1: would not walk home. I would run, I mean run, run.

644
00:43:43,795 --> 00:43:46,755
Speaker 1: From that back door at forty first and sixth. I'd

645
00:43:46,795 --> 00:43:49,915
Speaker 1: pass Bryant Park on my right as fast as I could,

646
00:43:50,235 --> 00:43:53,395
Speaker 1: passed all the drug dealers and other folks, then dart

647
00:43:53,435 --> 00:43:55,755
Speaker 1: on the north side of forty second between sixth and fifth,

648
00:43:55,755 --> 00:43:58,115
Speaker 1: and once you got to that corner of fifth and

649
00:43:58,195 --> 00:44:02,795
Speaker 1: forty second, you were back in civilization with good street

650
00:44:02,875 --> 00:44:05,355
Speaker 1: lights and other people on the st streets, no matter

651
00:44:05,355 --> 00:44:07,275
Speaker 1: how late the hour, or as we called them in

652
00:44:07,275 --> 00:44:12,595
Speaker 1: New York, then witnesses. Occasionally I might have to walk

653
00:44:12,675 --> 00:44:17,675
Speaker 1: in Times Square itself, usually when it was daylight. What

654
00:44:17,875 --> 00:44:21,755
Speaker 1: surrounded me there was about as far from today's Disneyland

655
00:44:21,875 --> 00:44:24,955
Speaker 1: East Times Square as you could imagine. In fact, you

656
00:44:24,955 --> 00:44:30,275
Speaker 1: could not imagine. There were porn theaters everywhere, and it

657
00:44:30,315 --> 00:44:33,875
Speaker 1: wasn't just porn theaters. They were spaced part and in

658
00:44:33,915 --> 00:44:39,595
Speaker 1: between them. Other businesses existed, porn peep shows, porn sex shops,

659
00:44:39,675 --> 00:44:44,035
Speaker 1: and porn video rental stores. I remember always making sure

660
00:44:44,075 --> 00:44:46,635
Speaker 1: I was walking on the outside edge of the street,

661
00:44:47,115 --> 00:44:48,955
Speaker 1: nearest the gutter, on the premise that in the event

662
00:44:49,035 --> 00:44:51,155
Speaker 1: somebody tried to mug me, I stood a much better

663
00:44:51,235 --> 00:44:54,955
Speaker 1: chance by running right out into automobile traffic. Besides which,

664
00:44:55,675 --> 00:44:57,395
Speaker 1: I used to worry that if I walked too close

665
00:44:57,475 --> 00:44:59,515
Speaker 1: to the porn theaters and the shows and the shops

666
00:44:59,515 --> 00:45:01,795
Speaker 1: and the video stores one day, I might just get

667
00:45:01,835 --> 00:45:08,475
Speaker 1: stuck to the sidewalk. Times Square was so different in

668
00:45:08,595 --> 00:45:11,315
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty and nineteen eighty one that I really can't

669
00:45:11,355 --> 00:45:15,635
Speaker 1: imagine that the annual income made there from anything but

670
00:45:15,995 --> 00:45:21,235
Speaker 1: porn and the RKO radio network was more than twenty

671
00:45:21,275 --> 00:45:23,715
Speaker 1: dollars a year. In total, there was nothing else, I

672
00:45:23,715 --> 00:45:27,155
Speaker 1: mean nothing. On weekends, walking over from my home on

673
00:45:27,195 --> 00:45:29,635
Speaker 1: the East Side, I would decide which fast food place

674
00:45:29,675 --> 00:45:33,995
Speaker 1: I'd be getting lunch from, somewhere on Fifth Avenue or Lex.

675
00:45:34,035 --> 00:45:36,195
Speaker 1: I'd go to the nearest payphone. I'd call the RKO

676
00:45:36,355 --> 00:45:38,595
Speaker 1: newsroom desk, and I would offer to bring in food

677
00:45:38,635 --> 00:45:42,355
Speaker 1: for everybody, for the simple reason that in Times Square

678
00:45:43,035 --> 00:45:48,595
Speaker 1: forty years ago, there were no restaurants open on weekends.

679
00:45:49,715 --> 00:45:54,275
Speaker 1: I'll say that again. In Times Square forty years ago,

680
00:45:54,475 --> 00:45:58,475
Speaker 1: on the weekends, all the restaurants that existed there were

681
00:45:58,675 --> 00:46:05,395
Speaker 1: closed during the day. And forget public transportation to Times Square.

682
00:46:05,635 --> 00:46:08,075
Speaker 1: I would finish my brisk, twenty five minute walk to

683
00:46:08,115 --> 00:46:10,595
Speaker 1: work one night in that frigid winter of nineteen eighty

684
00:46:10,675 --> 00:46:15,115
Speaker 1: eighty one and see my colleagues looking unusually pasty and drawn.

685
00:46:16,315 --> 00:46:18,955
Speaker 1: You didn't take the subway in, did you, asked one

686
00:46:18,955 --> 00:46:21,155
Speaker 1: of the editors, Tom Ryan. I looked at him like

687
00:46:21,195 --> 00:46:24,035
Speaker 1: it was crazy. Well good, some guy got stabbed by

688
00:46:24,035 --> 00:46:27,075
Speaker 1: the stairs closest to our building. I asked if he

689
00:46:27,115 --> 00:46:30,475
Speaker 1: was okay. No, he's not okay, he's dead. But they

690
00:46:30,515 --> 00:46:34,075
Speaker 1: got the guys who did it. They arrested fifty one people.

691
00:46:35,955 --> 00:46:39,115
Speaker 1: One guy got stabbed to death. Fifty one people were arrested.

692
00:46:39,315 --> 00:46:42,235
Speaker 1: I asked if they had been restaging a reenactment of

693
00:46:42,315 --> 00:46:47,075
Speaker 1: the assassination of Julius Caesar. Still, the equipment was brand

694
00:46:47,075 --> 00:46:49,715
Speaker 1: new and easy to use, and the staff was all young.

695
00:46:50,115 --> 00:46:52,675
Speaker 1: We all had fun, and we had parties, and everybody

696
00:46:52,715 --> 00:46:54,195
Speaker 1: lived in the city, and for the most part, it

697
00:46:54,235 --> 00:46:56,715
Speaker 1: was a pleasure to work there. And it was way

698
00:46:56,755 --> 00:47:00,555
Speaker 1: more lucrative even than Charlie Steiner had suggested. Those twenty

699
00:47:00,555 --> 00:47:04,955
Speaker 1: two dollars voice reports from the field they piled up fast.

700
00:47:05,315 --> 00:47:08,635
Speaker 1: The baseball players went on strike that June nineteen eighty one,

701
00:47:09,115 --> 00:47:11,275
Speaker 1: and every time I covered a bargaining session, I could

702
00:47:11,315 --> 00:47:13,355
Speaker 1: be certain of at least another forty four dollars. And

703
00:47:13,395 --> 00:47:15,835
Speaker 1: if that doesn't sound like much, the rent on my

704
00:47:16,035 --> 00:47:19,635
Speaker 1: very nice studio apartment never got higher than four hundred

705
00:47:19,635 --> 00:47:24,755
Speaker 1: and ninety eight dollars a month. RKO's location also provided

706
00:47:24,755 --> 00:47:27,995
Speaker 1: me with some wacky logistical problems. I filled in for

707
00:47:28,115 --> 00:47:30,675
Speaker 1: Charlie on most holidays. Plus I did the same thing

708
00:47:31,035 --> 00:47:35,875
Speaker 1: at a local radio station WNW. This made the actual

709
00:47:35,955 --> 00:47:40,675
Speaker 1: Christmas into my metaphorical Christmas. If I had to fill

710
00:47:40,675 --> 00:47:43,515
Speaker 1: in for both of these operations on the same day.

711
00:47:43,555 --> 00:47:46,875
Speaker 1: My schedule went like this, get into RKO in Times

712
00:47:46,875 --> 00:47:51,155
Speaker 1: Square at maybe two am, tape Charlie's Morning Show by

713
00:47:51,195 --> 00:47:55,875
Speaker 1: four am, then walk cross town very quickly to WNW

714
00:47:56,075 --> 00:47:59,675
Speaker 1: over on Third Avenue and do those sportscasts live between

715
00:47:59,715 --> 00:48:01,395
Speaker 1: five point thirty and nine, and then go home and

716
00:48:01,435 --> 00:48:03,515
Speaker 1: maybe take a nap, but not a long one because

717
00:48:03,555 --> 00:48:05,595
Speaker 1: I would have to be back at our by one

718
00:48:05,635 --> 00:48:11,035
Speaker 1: pm to do Charlie's afternoon show, rinse, repeat a lot

719
00:48:11,075 --> 00:48:13,395
Speaker 1: of work. On the other hand, just one week of

720
00:48:13,435 --> 00:48:16,995
Speaker 1: those days paid the rent for two months. On a

721
00:48:16,995 --> 00:48:19,835
Speaker 1: wet New Year's Eve nineteen eighty one, I treated myself

722
00:48:19,875 --> 00:48:22,835
Speaker 1: to a cab to go to RKO, which put me

723
00:48:22,835 --> 00:48:25,475
Speaker 1: in the bizarre position of getting into a cab on

724
00:48:25,515 --> 00:48:28,995
Speaker 1: the East Side at one thirty am New Year's Morning

725
00:48:29,075 --> 00:48:32,435
Speaker 1: and saying take me to Times Square and the driver saying,

726
00:48:32,475 --> 00:48:34,435
Speaker 1: you missed it, buddy, it's been nineteen eighty two for

727
00:48:34,435 --> 00:48:37,915
Speaker 1: an hour and a half. Nothing like being the only

728
00:48:37,995 --> 00:48:42,035
Speaker 1: person going into Times Square while one million people are

729
00:48:42,115 --> 00:48:48,435
Speaker 1: leaving it drunk. Most of the sportscasts I did at

730
00:48:48,515 --> 00:48:51,875
Speaker 1: RKO or pretty textbook, but there did come the day

731
00:48:51,875 --> 00:48:53,915
Speaker 1: that I walked in to fill in for Charlie, who

732
00:48:53,915 --> 00:48:55,915
Speaker 1: was at Wimbledon. So this is the summer of nineteen

733
00:48:55,955 --> 00:48:59,075
Speaker 1: eighty one, and the newswires were full of this story

734
00:48:59,355 --> 00:49:02,915
Speaker 1: of some unnamed American radio reporter getting into a brawl

735
00:49:03,475 --> 00:49:07,075
Speaker 1: with a London tablet at a Wimbledon press conference, and

736
00:49:07,115 --> 00:49:12,475
Speaker 1: it slowly evolved that the reporter was Charlie, my boss,

737
00:49:13,595 --> 00:49:15,195
Speaker 1: and we were going to have to figure out a

738
00:49:15,195 --> 00:49:19,115
Speaker 1: way to cover this. At first, Charlie wanted to do

739
00:49:19,155 --> 00:49:22,195
Speaker 1: it in the third person and say the reporter did this,

740
00:49:22,275 --> 00:49:23,835
Speaker 1: and the reporter said that, And I said, you know,

741
00:49:23,915 --> 00:49:25,475
Speaker 1: I really don't think we're going to get away with that.

742
00:49:26,515 --> 00:49:29,715
Speaker 1: Given how much wire copy I'm seeing here, Charlie, this

743
00:49:29,755 --> 00:49:31,035
Speaker 1: is probably going to be on the front page of

744
00:49:31,075 --> 00:49:32,675
Speaker 1: the New York Times in the morning. Sure enough, it

745
00:49:32,795 --> 00:49:37,595
Speaker 1: was above the fold. We're still unbeknownst to Charlie, his

746
00:49:37,635 --> 00:49:40,875
Speaker 1: fight took place in a corner of the Wimbledon press room,

747
00:49:41,355 --> 00:49:43,515
Speaker 1: right under the camera that fed out a shot of

748
00:49:43,515 --> 00:49:47,635
Speaker 1: that room twenty four to seven to every television network

749
00:49:47,835 --> 00:49:52,395
Speaker 1: in the world. Sure Enough, the last item on ABC's

750
00:49:52,475 --> 00:49:55,595
Speaker 1: six thirty newscast that night with Peter Jennings was a

751
00:49:55,635 --> 00:50:00,075
Speaker 1: feature on Charlie Steiner fighting with the British over how

752
00:50:00,115 --> 00:50:03,195
Speaker 1: they broke up the John McEnroe post match press conference,

753
00:50:03,315 --> 00:50:05,315
Speaker 1: and he was pissed off because that man he wouldn't

754
00:50:05,315 --> 00:50:09,075
Speaker 1: get any sound bites from Macenroe. I managed to run

755
00:50:09,115 --> 00:50:12,115
Speaker 1: home from RKO and record the report by Dick Schafp

756
00:50:12,155 --> 00:50:14,795
Speaker 1: and when Charlie got back from London, I loaned it

757
00:50:14,795 --> 00:50:20,635
Speaker 1: to him. This was in July nineteen eighty one. Charlie

758
00:50:20,635 --> 00:50:23,675
Speaker 1: still hasn't given me the tape back. Every time I

759
00:50:23,715 --> 00:50:25,635
Speaker 1: see him, he swears he's still looking for it. It's

760
00:50:25,635 --> 00:50:28,315
Speaker 1: in a box somewhere, But I'm beginning to think he

761
00:50:28,395 --> 00:50:30,595
Speaker 1: may not be telling me the whole truth about what

762
00:50:30,675 --> 00:50:36,755
Speaker 1: happened to my video cassette. But my favorite RKO story

763
00:50:36,875 --> 00:50:40,635
Speaker 1: is about Charlie's sudden and inexplicable obsession with the story

764
00:50:40,835 --> 00:50:43,555
Speaker 1: during that nineteen eighty one baseball strike I mentioned in

765
00:50:43,595 --> 00:50:46,195
Speaker 1: the middle of this thing, which stopped the season for

766
00:50:46,235 --> 00:50:49,555
Speaker 1: fifty days and was really the beginning of the end

767
00:50:49,635 --> 00:50:53,075
Speaker 1: of that time when baseball truly mattered in this country.

768
00:50:53,995 --> 00:50:56,835
Speaker 1: When every day of that strike, somebody on all the

769
00:50:56,915 --> 00:50:59,435
Speaker 1: TV newscast set and the baseball strike is in its

770
00:50:59,475 --> 00:51:04,755
Speaker 1: twenty third day, a story broke that George Steinbrenner, the

771
00:51:04,795 --> 00:51:06,595
Speaker 1: owner of the Yankees, was going to meet with Baseball

772
00:51:06,595 --> 00:51:08,835
Speaker 1: Commissioner Buy Qun and a couple of other owners who

773
00:51:08,875 --> 00:51:12,715
Speaker 1: realized that the work stoppage was financial madness. As George

774
00:51:12,715 --> 00:51:16,715
Speaker 1: told me years later, he was losing about a million

775
00:51:16,755 --> 00:51:20,755
Speaker 1: dollars in revenue every day so that the Milwaukee Brewers

776
00:51:20,795 --> 00:51:26,155
Speaker 1: could save five thousand dollars in salaries every year. Well,

777
00:51:26,195 --> 00:51:28,475
Speaker 1: my boss, Charlie Steiner, decided he was going to scoop

778
00:51:28,515 --> 00:51:31,755
Speaker 1: the world about this secret Steinbrenner Kune meeting. So he

779
00:51:31,795 --> 00:51:34,075
Speaker 1: told me to come into the office on one of

780
00:51:34,115 --> 00:51:37,715
Speaker 1: my off days and work the phones. Work the phone. Sun.

781
00:51:38,595 --> 00:51:40,955
Speaker 1: Two of us, me and the newly hired producer, my

782
00:51:40,995 --> 00:51:44,155
Speaker 1: friend John Martin, were supposed to call everybody we knew

783
00:51:44,235 --> 00:51:47,235
Speaker 1: and find out for Charlie when these guys were meeting

784
00:51:47,275 --> 00:51:49,555
Speaker 1: and where and who would be there, and to not

785
00:51:49,835 --> 00:51:55,075
Speaker 1: go home until we had nailed it down. Well, it

786
00:51:55,115 --> 00:51:59,555
Speaker 1: was madness. I didn't know anybody in baseball, let alone

787
00:51:59,595 --> 00:52:02,235
Speaker 1: anybody who knew where the owner of the Yankees was

788
00:52:02,275 --> 00:52:04,475
Speaker 1: going to meet in secret with the Commissioner of Baseball,

789
00:52:05,035 --> 00:52:07,995
Speaker 1: let alone, who knew all that and would tell me.

790
00:52:09,235 --> 00:52:12,275
Speaker 1: But I tried everybody I could think of, and had

791
00:52:12,315 --> 00:52:14,435
Speaker 1: already suggested to John Martin that I was just going

792
00:52:14,515 --> 00:52:17,475
Speaker 1: to start dialing ten digits at random and asking whoever

793
00:52:17,515 --> 00:52:21,155
Speaker 1: answered if they knew. When after about eight hours of this,

794
00:52:21,515 --> 00:52:24,195
Speaker 1: well past my dinner time, I was on the phone

795
00:52:24,195 --> 00:52:27,075
Speaker 1: with some executive of some West Coast team when he said,

796
00:52:27,275 --> 00:52:29,675
Speaker 1: hold on a minute, I've got another call. And a

797
00:52:29,715 --> 00:52:32,155
Speaker 1: moment later, from the adjoining room in my office, I

798
00:52:32,195 --> 00:52:35,795
Speaker 1: heard John Martin say, mister Smith, Hi, this is John

799
00:52:35,835 --> 00:52:41,075
Speaker 1: Martin from the RKO Radio network, and yes, RKO Radio Network, Yes,

800
00:52:41,155 --> 00:52:44,755
Speaker 1: I'll hold sir. Mister Smith picked up my call again

801
00:52:44,795 --> 00:52:47,395
Speaker 1: and said, is this really two of you calling me

802
00:52:47,435 --> 00:52:50,075
Speaker 1: about this crap at the same time, from the same network,

803
00:52:50,755 --> 00:52:53,395
Speaker 1: And I said yes, and I apologized, and I told

804
00:52:53,435 --> 00:52:57,115
Speaker 1: him I was going home. If Charlie doesn't like it,

805
00:52:57,155 --> 00:53:01,635
Speaker 1: I told John he can fire me, so follow me

806
00:53:01,715 --> 00:53:04,875
Speaker 1: on this because I had missed dinner. When I got

807
00:53:04,955 --> 00:53:07,515
Speaker 1: back to my street on the East Side, I was famished.

808
00:53:07,715 --> 00:53:10,515
Speaker 1: I don't know nine o'clock, ten o'clock. The last two

809
00:53:10,555 --> 00:53:13,275
Speaker 1: blocks of my walk home was always identical. I'd come

810
00:53:13,355 --> 00:53:15,675
Speaker 1: up Third Avenue and then hang a right at the

811
00:53:15,755 --> 00:53:18,515
Speaker 1: southeast corner of Third Avenue and fifty fifth Street. I

812
00:53:18,555 --> 00:53:20,075
Speaker 1: lived at the other end of fifty fifth Street, in

813
00:53:20,115 --> 00:53:23,195
Speaker 1: your second Avenue. But now I was going to go

814
00:53:23,275 --> 00:53:26,315
Speaker 1: pick up some pizza in a very nice place on

815
00:53:26,355 --> 00:53:30,835
Speaker 1: the northwest corner of this same block. I got the slices.

816
00:53:30,875 --> 00:53:34,475
Speaker 1: The lights changed. Now I was crossing towards the northeast

817
00:53:34,475 --> 00:53:37,075
Speaker 1: corner of fifty fifth and Third, which itself was the

818
00:53:37,075 --> 00:53:41,235
Speaker 1: home of a famous New York bar, PJ. Clarks. Ordinarily

819
00:53:41,275 --> 00:53:43,435
Speaker 1: I would never have been on that side of the

820
00:53:43,435 --> 00:53:46,235
Speaker 1: street at that hour, but there I was. And as

821
00:53:46,275 --> 00:53:49,155
Speaker 1: I slipped past the ancient front door, I saw the

822
00:53:49,235 --> 00:53:52,075
Speaker 1: side exit open on a burst of bright yellow light,

823
00:53:52,595 --> 00:53:56,955
Speaker 1: like in an Edward Hopper painting shoot out onto a

824
00:53:57,035 --> 00:54:00,235
Speaker 1: limo waiting on fifty fifth Street. Then, as I walked,

825
00:54:00,475 --> 00:54:04,355
Speaker 1: carrying my box of pizza and wearing my RKO Radio

826
00:54:04,395 --> 00:54:09,075
Speaker 1: Network black jacket, who emerges from that light of that

827
00:54:09,275 --> 00:54:14,675
Speaker 1: side door at PJ. Clark's But George Steinbrenner in a TuS.

828
00:54:16,115 --> 00:54:16,875
Speaker 3: I gasped.

829
00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,635
Speaker 1: I tried to summon the courage to approach Steinbrenner as

830
00:54:20,675 --> 00:54:23,475
Speaker 1: he walked towards his limo and ask him about his

831
00:54:23,555 --> 00:54:26,475
Speaker 1: planned meeting with Commissioner Kun And just before I admitted

832
00:54:26,475 --> 00:54:29,195
Speaker 1: to myself that no, at the age of twenty two,

833
00:54:29,235 --> 00:54:32,595
Speaker 1: I did not have such courage. I saw Steinbrenner stop

834
00:54:32,635 --> 00:54:35,515
Speaker 1: at the limo, and I heard him yell back towards

835
00:54:35,515 --> 00:54:39,435
Speaker 1: the light shining through the still open side door to Clark's, Eddie, Eddie.

836
00:54:40,435 --> 00:54:43,235
Speaker 1: And with that Edward Bennett Williams, the owner of the

837
00:54:43,275 --> 00:54:47,395
Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles, leaned out, also in a tux and said,

838
00:54:47,395 --> 00:54:53,195
Speaker 1: with evident exasperation, what now. George Steinbrenner shouted, what time

839
00:54:53,235 --> 00:54:55,955
Speaker 1: are you and I and Child's meeting with Bowie tomorrow.

840
00:54:58,075 --> 00:55:02,715
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe my luck. Williams

841
00:55:02,715 --> 00:55:05,315
Speaker 1: had not seen me. Steinbrenner had not seen me. Williams

842
00:55:05,395 --> 00:55:10,555
Speaker 1: sighed again for the tenth time. George nine nine thirty

843
00:55:10,595 --> 00:55:15,555
Speaker 1: in the morning, George nine thirty, Booie's condo. I now

844
00:55:15,635 --> 00:55:18,555
Speaker 1: plastered myself against the wall of Clark's. I hope they

845
00:55:18,555 --> 00:55:20,755
Speaker 1: had not seen me at all. Without so much as

846
00:55:20,835 --> 00:55:23,235
Speaker 1: asking the question I had learned at the Orioles owner

847
00:55:23,235 --> 00:55:26,315
Speaker 1: and Chiles, Eddie Chiles, the owner of the Texas Rangers.

848
00:55:26,435 --> 00:55:29,195
Speaker 1: They would be accompanying Steinbrenner to the meeting, and it

849
00:55:29,235 --> 00:55:31,915
Speaker 1: would begin at nine thirty at the condominium of Commissioner

850
00:55:31,955 --> 00:55:33,915
Speaker 1: Buie Kun. And I was wondering if I could try

851
00:55:33,955 --> 00:55:38,915
Speaker 1: to fake Steinbrenner's voice and shout, Eddie, where's Booie's condo again?

852
00:55:39,475 --> 00:55:43,955
Speaker 1: When suddenly I heard Steinbrenner say, Eddie, where's Booie's condo again?

853
00:55:45,675 --> 00:55:48,395
Speaker 1: By now, Edward Bennett Williams had re lit a cigar

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Speaker 1: he was holding. George write it down this time five

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Speaker 1: seventy five, Park five seven five.

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Speaker 3: I could barely breathe.

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Speaker 1: Good God. They had handed me everything but the cross street. Eddie, Eddie,

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Speaker 1: what's the cross street? Williams now swore, Oh, for f's sake,

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Speaker 1: George sixty third, sixty third in Park five seventy five

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Speaker 1: Park at nine thirty in the morning. Okay, Steinbrenner got

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Speaker 1: into the limo. It squealed off, the door closed. I

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Speaker 1: wrote what I had heard on the top of the

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Speaker 1: pizza box and took off at a dead run to

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Speaker 1: my apartment at the corner of fifty fifth and Second,

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Speaker 1: pausing only to take a quick bite of pizza. I

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Speaker 1: called John Martin back at the RCAO Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: I got it.

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Speaker 1: John said, you got what I got everything about the meeting.

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Speaker 1: John said, I'll get the Boss soon. All three of

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Speaker 1: us were on the phone. Charlie did not believe I

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Speaker 1: had gotten him any information, so I laid it on thick.

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Speaker 1: You're writing this down, Boss, nine thirty tomorrow morning. It's

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Speaker 1: at Booie Kune's condo at five seventy five Park that's

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Speaker 1: the corner of sixty third, of course. Then there was

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Speaker 1: silence at Charlie's end of the phone. Oh and Edward

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Speaker 1: Bennett Williams of the Orioles, and any Child's of the Rangers.

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Speaker 1: They'll be there too. I don't know, Charlie if it's

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Speaker 1: just them or there are others, but those four will

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Speaker 1: certainly be there. Boo's condo, five seventy five Cross Street

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Speaker 1: is sixty third. Charlie started to make a kind of.

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Speaker 3: Butt butt noise. But but, but how did you find out?

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Speaker 3: How the hell did you actually find out? Why do

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Speaker 3: you think it's true? I had been waiting for this

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Speaker 3: for several moments, and my answer had been rehearsed in

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Speaker 3: my mind at least as far back as my elevator

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Speaker 3: ride up to my apartment with the most nonchalant I

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Speaker 3: had ever mustard in my life, I answered Charlie Steiner, Well, Charlie,

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Speaker 3: I I ran into Steinbrenner at Clark's. I've done all

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Speaker 3: the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening. Countdown.

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Speaker 1: Musical directors Brian Ray and John Phillip Schanelle arranged, produced,

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Speaker 1: and performed most of our music. Mister Ray was on

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Speaker 1: the guitars, bass and drums, and mister Shanelle handled orchestration

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Speaker 1: and keyboards. It was produced by Tko Brothers. Other music,

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Speaker 1: including some of the Beethoven compositions, arranged and performed by

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Speaker 1: the group No Horns Allowed. Sports Music is the Olberman

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Speaker 1: theme for Me ESPN two, and it was written by

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Speaker 1: Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN Inc. Our satirical and

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Speaker 1: pithy musical comments are by Nancy Fauss, the best baseball

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Speaker 1: stadium organist ever. Our announcer today was once again two

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Speaker 1: days in a row, an all time First, my friend

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Speaker 1: Larry David, because me and my friend Larry David we

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Speaker 1: both hate Heraldo Rivera. Everything else was just pretty much

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Speaker 1: my fault. That's countdown for this the two hundred and

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Speaker 1: tenth day until the twenty twenty four presidential election, the

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Speaker 1: ninety first day since dementia j Trump's first attempted coup

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Speaker 1: against the democratically elected government of the United States. Use

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Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendment, use the not regularly given elector objection option,

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Speaker 1: use the Insurrection Act, use the justice system, use the

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Speaker 1: mental health system to stop him from doing it again

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Speaker 1: while we still can. The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Bulletins as the news warrants till then, I'm Keith Ouldreman.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. Countdown

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Speaker 1: with Keith Ouldreman is a production of iHeartRadio. For more

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