WEBVTT - Jets-Colts Game Preview (10/12)

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<v Speaker 1>The game is over New York, the world. You baten

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<v Speaker 1>to win the game. He's got it. That's as Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>What's down? Can't? You're listening to the Official New York

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<v Speaker 1>Jets podcast, a Jets three sixty production. What's Up Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen back here in studios on the

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<v Speaker 1>Official Jets podcast this week Jets and Colts on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and we decided to talk to Stephen Holder of the

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<v Speaker 1>Athletic Key Covers the Colds down there in America's Harland.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about all things Colts, all offense, defense, What

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<v Speaker 1>is Andrew luck this year? How has he been performing?

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<v Speaker 1>Will get Stevens takes. But first things first is I

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<v Speaker 1>have to rewind the clock here for a second because

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<v Speaker 1>on last week's pod, e A had of bold prediction.

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<v Speaker 1>Roll the audio and they're bound to hit at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really think Greens the Jets are gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to have success. Moving to football on the ground and

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<v Speaker 1>watched two nine. I think Blow Paul could have a

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<v Speaker 1>big game. Yeah, that's right. E A said to nine

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<v Speaker 1>blow Power is gonna have a big game against the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos. He wasn't wrong, but Isaiah crow Hell really

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<v Speaker 1>stole the show there. Hey, anytime a guy rushes for

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred yards and then they took a couple back

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<v Speaker 1>when the Jets were running out the clock he did. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it got off to a tough start for

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<v Speaker 1>not only Blow but the entire Jets team because it

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<v Speaker 1>came out a little bit slow out of the gate. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>but who could have forecasted Isaiah Coroel going for a

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<v Speaker 1>franchise record to nineteen and any time you control the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage, which the big Uglies did and rush

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<v Speaker 1>for three hundred and twenty three yards, which, oh, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, was the second most. And for Chise history

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<v Speaker 1>and Greens, this franchise been around since nineteen sixty and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I know you're getting a little bit older,

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<v Speaker 1>but you aren't around in those early days. That's saying something. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he did, he did, He contributed to the victory. The

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<v Speaker 1>Crow flew higher than any other back in the franchise history. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get e as slight prediction before we close up

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<v Speaker 1>shop here, But I think that the whole game was shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can say you can point to some scheduling

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Football League at times. And you had

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<v Speaker 1>Denver coming off an emotional game, a divisional contest against

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City where they blew a fourth quarter lead, and

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<v Speaker 1>they hung around here at MetLife for a quarter, but

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<v Speaker 1>they really didn't put up too much resistance. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to give credit to the Jets offensive line for a

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<v Speaker 1>number of reasons. The running game is obviously the one

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<v Speaker 1>that's sitting at the fore front of of everyone's mind

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<v Speaker 1>just because of what Isaiahawllen belal Pal did. But from

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<v Speaker 1>a past protection standpoint, the line held up very, very

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<v Speaker 1>strong against Von Miller and Bradley Chubb, which is debateably

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<v Speaker 1>the top pair of bookend pass rushers in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>They're up there. It's early potential wise, like a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years. They might know I'm Miller's great, There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about that. And they got their hands on a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of balls. But you have to credit I would

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<v Speaker 1>give a game ball to the entire coaching staff because

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets out coached the Broncos in a big way.

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<v Speaker 1>You go for three three on the ground. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing is you took your shots up top. Jeremy Bates did,

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<v Speaker 1>and he got a couple touchdowns. From Sam Donald to

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<v Speaker 1>Robbie Anderson, and that is going to be on film. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what our defense is going to do when you face

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets? Are you gonna put an extra safety in

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<v Speaker 1>a box? If you do, you're rolling the dice out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You might as well go to Vegas because that means

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<v Speaker 1>no safety over the top on Robby Anderson. And how

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<v Speaker 1>about the efficiency of Donald when you're talking about ten

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<v Speaker 1>completion three go for scores? Yeah, Donald. I think what

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<v Speaker 1>most fans are most impressive about his Sand Donald performance

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that he took chunk shots chunk plays

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<v Speaker 1>when they presented themselves. But other than that, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was very conservative in a good way. Not not

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<v Speaker 1>not in a sense of checkdown check down because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to take a shot, but very efficient with

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<v Speaker 1>where he moved the ball. I think the next step

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<v Speaker 1>for him is just gonna be maybe not scoring chunk plays.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that I was thinking about this. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that Jets really worked the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>field a whole lot. I'm not saying they needed to,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that it was a good step in

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<v Speaker 1>the right direction because you saw the playbook opening up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and I'm excited to see what happens

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday for a number of reasons, but mostly because the

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<v Speaker 1>last time the Jets won there was a three game slide.

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<v Speaker 1>So how are the Jets gonna respond to this victory.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's gonna be a very telling factor.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the game so far off the season

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jet. For Bradley Roby, I kind of feel

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<v Speaker 1>bad for him. It's uh, Robbie, he loaned him to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep on that first touchdown, I think, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>second one he beat him and it was a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>pass from Donald to use his eyes well, going to

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<v Speaker 1>the right and then coming back to the left and

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<v Speaker 1>dropping a diamond there. And defensively, I thought the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>were very good. I thought they're gonna have some problems

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<v Speaker 1>early against it. Broncos formidable run game. Philip Lindsay was

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<v Speaker 1>getting a couple uh nice games out there, but they

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<v Speaker 1>shut it down. And then Todd Bowles, who was calling

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<v Speaker 1>plays in place of the ill Casey Rogers, Uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>did some nice things too, because I think the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>gotta lead. And then he started started seeing them using

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<v Speaker 1>some twists and stunts up front, and Winter Williams had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of sacks the Jets at four sacks and all,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I started my little soliloquy here talking about Roby.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta give the Jets defensive back some credit too.

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<v Speaker 1>I know the Broncos they got some yardage late, but listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Truemay Johnson not playing that game is out with a

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<v Speaker 1>quad injury. So Darryl Roberts filled in and he played

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<v Speaker 1>a good game. And then Perry Nickerson got some very

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<v Speaker 1>valuable run for Buster Screen at the nickel position. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you have to give a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>credit to a lot of different places on the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>team because I think that all three phases played very well.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that this upcoming week is a big

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<v Speaker 1>test for the Jets. I think it's the biggest game

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<v Speaker 1>of the season just because we saw what happened after

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit and what's gonna happen after beating the Broncos. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But you can't say. But you can't say

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<v Speaker 1>it's the biggest game of the season when you said

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<v Speaker 1>that last week, because weeks the biggest game of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>trick question, there was no question. But he can't say

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<v Speaker 1>that because really, I think if you look back, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will. After sixteen game regular season, this was a

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<v Speaker 1>pivotal ball game you had to win against Denver. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a team who was two and two coming off

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<v Speaker 1>a short week. And conversely, the Jets were on a

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<v Speaker 1>three game slide and they were starting a three game

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<v Speaker 1>homestand they needed something positive to happen. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>I think about this weekend is that I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a swing game in the sense of I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if that makes say, if you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say when I say, I'm gonna gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>you to explain it. So what I mean by that

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<v Speaker 1>is it's one of those games where if the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>are able to stack two wins together back to back,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it just kind of changes the mood and

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<v Speaker 1>the feeling internally. Externally more so in the sense that

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<v Speaker 1>you start to put some games together. Now you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>real juice for when the Minnesota Vikings come around and

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<v Speaker 1>then going to Chicago and as the season goes on

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<v Speaker 1>and on. But I think it's just one of those

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<v Speaker 1>games where it may only be one game, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a little more at stake than just a

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<v Speaker 1>winner a loss, and that you can you can say

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I don't say that. I think you can't

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<v Speaker 1>say that, because again you're here, you're falling for the trap.

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<v Speaker 1>You are falling for the truth talking about me personally

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<v Speaker 1>or the team. No, you are I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>team well. But but no, because again, then when are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna say next week that the Vikings game is bigger? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is really taking a larger step

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<v Speaker 1>than just their Let's be clear about something. And we

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<v Speaker 1>watched the Colts Thursday night, and the thing I told

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<v Speaker 1>you I think was last Friday is that Indianapolis is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play for sixty minutes. I don't know how many

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<v Speaker 1>games are gonna win, but Andrew Locke is by one

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<v Speaker 1>of the top performers in the National Football League this season.

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<v Speaker 1>They are rebuilding or building or however you want to

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<v Speaker 1>say it. But every game, Make no mistake, the Colts

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<v Speaker 1>could win this game, make no mistake about it. This

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<v Speaker 1>is profession, no football, and this cold steam could have

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<v Speaker 1>beat Cincinnati lost by one point. They'd a lead in

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<v Speaker 1>that game. They were at the four yard line against

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<v Speaker 1>Philly defunded Super Bowl champion in their building. Oh, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, could have won that game. Frank Wright decided

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<v Speaker 1>to go for it in overtime, which I like his

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<v Speaker 1>aggression against Houston at home. Any of those games could

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<v Speaker 1>have went the other way. So this Colts team keeps

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<v Speaker 1>on coming at you. Uh, matchups. We just watched what

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<v Speaker 1>Connor McGregor and this Kobib guy in Las Vegas over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. Styles make fights. Styles make fights, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets have to contend with the different style this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the run game could give the Colts a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of issues, but luck no matter who he's throwing

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<v Speaker 1>a ball too, and the two guys I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets have to make sure that they take care of,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if t Y Helton is not in a lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Eric Ebron, the former first round pick in Detroit.

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<v Speaker 1>He showed up on Thursday night a couple of touchdowns

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<v Speaker 1>over Hunter Arabs receivers, and I him hides from n

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<v Speaker 1>see state of course he's been an oppressive rookie back.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, without further ado, let's go to Stephen Holder

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<v Speaker 1>of the Athletic. All right, talking to Stephen Holder now

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<v Speaker 1>of the Athletic. Stephen is this Colts team to me

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<v Speaker 1>at least? And I think to e A as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just very interesting because you look at the record,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one and four, but you look at the team

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like it's a team that plays hard

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<v Speaker 1>for sixty minutes with a new coach and Andrew luck back.

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<v Speaker 1>So how would you describe this team through five games? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a fair description. Look, you are what

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<v Speaker 1>your record says, and I'm a faid believer in that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think the Cults are a good team

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<v Speaker 1>right now, but I think they're on their way to

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<v Speaker 1>becoming that. And I don't think they're very far away.

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're really going, uh right now a team that

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<v Speaker 1>can't finish games, and it's because they just don't have

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<v Speaker 1>enough to get it done right now. But but they

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<v Speaker 1>have enough to to be competitive every Sunday. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even with all their injuries right now, which are which

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<v Speaker 1>are really piling up, they're still finding a way to

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<v Speaker 1>be competitive. So I think the key has been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew this would be every building year, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was hard to sort of project how competitive they would be,

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<v Speaker 1>especially given andrew lux situation coming off that year long

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<v Speaker 1>absence at quarterback. But he's been fabulous really through five weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that has kind of changed the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And and now it's evident they're really not that far

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<v Speaker 1>away from being a team that's a factor. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>they got to prove they can get it done. They're

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<v Speaker 1>so young on both sides of the ball, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>really I think a big part of of why they're

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<v Speaker 1>women for right now and why they haven't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to make those plays to close games. So many things

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<v Speaker 1>to get to you here. I got so many questions

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<v Speaker 1>about the Colts and the Jets and the connections, but

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned Luck. What were your expectations for him going

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<v Speaker 1>into the season. What were the organization's expectations for him?

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<v Speaker 1>Had he entered the season? And has he surpassed maybe

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<v Speaker 1>what you had thought we would see out of Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Luck here early And how delighted is the organization as

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<v Speaker 1>far as what they're seeing here early on from him

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand eighteen. Okay, So it's interesting. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the spring and summer just getting consistent like confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean both confidence from from upper management about

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<v Speaker 1>their outlook for and Luck. And I didn't understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they were crazy. Okay, I was gonna set

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<v Speaker 1>yourself up for trouble again here. Okay, it wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't believe he was coming back. I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>there was those things. I had enough reporting and enough

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to know that that there has been like legitimate

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<v Speaker 1>progress with his arm, with his shoulder, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>knew that that is showing it was in a much

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<v Speaker 1>first better place, much much stronger. You can look at

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<v Speaker 1>him physically throughout the off season and say, Okay, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy looks like he's going to play football. Last year

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<v Speaker 1>that was not the case. He looked clearly like he

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<v Speaker 1>had been out for months. But all that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I hadn't seen him do it. So at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, I mean, it's about playing football,

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<v Speaker 1>not about you know how much events press. So I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to actually see him throw a football and anything

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<v Speaker 1>after that. After we saw him throw a football, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of O t A, at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of mini camp, which has been early to mid June,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he wasn't rowing forcedly. He was he was

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<v Speaker 1>conducting or participating I should say, in individual drills only.

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<v Speaker 1>And really, you know, we've all spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time at football practice. We know that individual drills are

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<v Speaker 1>not really uh it's not a real replication of what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do on Sunday. So that was the extent

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<v Speaker 1>of what I've seen. So I was willing to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that he was gonna play. I didn't necessarily not believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't think that he would be where he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to be. I thought this would be a really

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<v Speaker 1>gradual process. Range. Look, then we got the training camp

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<v Speaker 1>and literally the first day of training camp was his

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<v Speaker 1>first time taking full team snaps since two thousands sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>And here was the vault all over the place. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like stunned. I mean, it wasn't perfect, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't you know, necessarily in sync, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, and it was like, all right, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we were wrong. And I think every day you started

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<v Speaker 1>to see it more and more. Even though I would

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<v Speaker 1>say by the end of training camp in the preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>I still thought it would be a slow start for

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew luck. I just you know, he didn't play a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of snaps. He played about thirties five well, I

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<v Speaker 1>said today, the first couple of preseason, he didn't play

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. He did play a lot in his and

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got a good look at him. But but

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<v Speaker 1>he had a really uh throwing the ball down the

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<v Speaker 1>field very much. Uh, it was very much a short

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<v Speaker 1>passing game. They had a left tackle injury, which they

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<v Speaker 1>still have, so they were protecting him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I don't think we saw the full breath

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<v Speaker 1>of the offense, and we hadn't seen the full breath

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<v Speaker 1>of what Andrew Luck could do. So I figured, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna baby him for a while here. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>really back, and I thought that process would take some time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he came out and see the open ball

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<v Speaker 1>fifty times, so everything got blown out of the water

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<v Speaker 1>and I realized I was completely wrong. But he's defied

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<v Speaker 1>expectations for me at least. And look, he's not perfect yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll see them throwing where he's out of

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<v Speaker 1>sync with his receivers, in part because they're new guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think that comes from having a long layoff.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think in terms of his ability to place

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, I mean, if you watched the Thursday night

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<v Speaker 1>against the Patriot, I mean either of the best balls

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<v Speaker 1>he's thrown this year. I was toringly impressed, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had no business even being in that football game missing

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<v Speaker 1>probably you know, I would say six or seven of

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<v Speaker 1>their top ten or twelve players, So I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was very impressive, no pun intended. Are they

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<v Speaker 1>putting too much on Andrew's luck shoulders right now? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's happening because of the situation. I think when

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<v Speaker 1>you're when you're missing, you're starting left half, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting running back, your Pro Bowl tight end, you're missing, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>your a Pro Bowl receiver right now, t Y Hilton,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very very much in question for this Sunday. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel good about him playing at all. So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they have a lot going on in the injury department.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just because moments, and Frank Rich will tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that and he goes out of his way to

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<v Speaker 1>make it clear no one cares about our injuries, and

0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:58.800
<v Speaker 1>he's right, but that doesn't mean we can't take them

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<v Speaker 1>into account. So yeah, right now, Anti Luck is having

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<v Speaker 1>to look he's from the ball in twenty times last game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane. I've never seen anything like it. And part

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<v Speaker 1>of that is certainly the game situations, falling behind a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times, going to overtime against Houston last week.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a unique set of circumstances. Granted, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that's going to happen every week. But they

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<v Speaker 1>aren't having a lot of success running the football. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's putting more on the passing game. Uh. They have

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<v Speaker 1>been behind at times, so that puts pressure on the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just been a lot of situations that where yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I do agree with you, I think unintentionally it is

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<v Speaker 1>falling on Anti Luck. What I would say though, is

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<v Speaker 1>he is getting more help than he's gotten in the

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<v Speaker 1>past from his defense. Now, the Patriots put up some

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<v Speaker 1>points last week and that was a little bit out

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<v Speaker 1>of character for the defense. But I do think for

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<v Speaker 1>week the week, the defense is giving them a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the previous game against Houston, I believe they scored

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<v Speaker 1>seven thirty eight points in that game, but four team

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<v Speaker 1>of those points came off turnovers, one in the end

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<v Speaker 1>zone and one inside the teary line. So the defense

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<v Speaker 1>has given them a chance and that's where and wos

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit of a lift from right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So in fact, in some cases on some Sundays, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a situation where the offense isn't carrying its ownly. So,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll see what happens on this Sunday. But but

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it would certainly behooved them to get

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<v Speaker 1>a running game going and take some of that pressure off.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew can't continue to throw the ball at this rate,

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<v Speaker 1>whether his soldier is a per cent or not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just not really conducive to winning football. That was just

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<v Speaker 1>it's unbelievable. I want to you mentioned the defense. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that a lot of fans know a whole

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<v Speaker 1>lot about the Colts defense, and so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know is what's the identity of the defense and what

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<v Speaker 1>what do the players try to do? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>try to take away an offense from the Colt's perspective?

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<v Speaker 1>And for fans that don't know, is Darius Leonard? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my god, this guy's really taking the NFL by storm.

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<v Speaker 1>Is how good is Darius Leonard? Well, I'll start with

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<v Speaker 1>your first question. Look, the defense is very reminiscent to

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<v Speaker 1>to what you saw with the Colts under Tony Dungee.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually ironically so it's very similar to that, very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to what Lovey Smith ran with the Chicago Bears, and

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<v Speaker 1>those are very simplistic schemes there's not a lot of pressures,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of coverage. Is they're pretty basic

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not gonna bring a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of blizzes. There's not a lot of complex packages. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think what you're gonna see is they're about running

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<v Speaker 1>and hitting basically it. I mean, there's some complexities in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do have some things that they'll they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 1>sort of scheme up and and throw at you from

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<v Speaker 1>week to week. But it's not gonna be a ton

0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 1>you know what you're going to get. I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>as the coaches have told me on numerous occasions, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we do what we do. So it's not a mystery

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone. Uh, the chest coaches are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>look at this team defensively on film and be confused.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not that confusing, frankly. So it's really about, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we we believe. This is their philosophy is we believe

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<v Speaker 1>we can get to the football, get three or four

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<v Speaker 1>guys to the football and prevent the big plays. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's really the essence of it. It's been relatively effective.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think one of the things that the Colts

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<v Speaker 1>have really struggled with the last two season is just

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<v Speaker 1>giving up huge plays. That's something that I think has

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<v Speaker 1>been corralsed a little bit this year. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that is an indication of this scheme having intended effect.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what can happen is a lot of times teams

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of uh you can kind of end up

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<v Speaker 1>dying by papercut if you will, and and maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>getting off the field. So they are a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an undersized defense, so that sometimes works against them.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh they you know, they certainly play a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>zero so teams that that are sort of guilt to

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<v Speaker 1>beat zones, they tend to have some success. So there

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.399
<v Speaker 1>are they can be beat right and and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>a finished product by any stretch. But I do like

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the concept and and they're playing it well. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>about not pulling anybody. It's just about doing what you

0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:32.200
<v Speaker 1>do at a very very high level. That's the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned Darius Leonard. This is not a defense

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of household names. I mean very very

0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>very few. Uh. Millie Cooker is maybe a guy people know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the first round pick coming off an a c

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<v Speaker 1>L a little bit of a slow start, but he

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<v Speaker 1>I think has immense potential. But other than him, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a ton of guys on this team that you

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<v Speaker 1>really would consider household names. But Darius Leonard I think

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be one of those names here pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's having He did miss Thursday night's game against England,

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<v Speaker 1>but this guy is having an incredible season so far.

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.400
<v Speaker 1>He's he's already gotten buzz I think from people who

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<v Speaker 1>have watched him. He talked to some endless and they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Rookie of the year buzz for this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's UH two. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>too bold at all to to make those kinds of proclamations. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>What he is basically a sideline to scideline player. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>In my earlier in my career career, I covered the

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa Bay Buccaneers and they had Derek Brooks playing week

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<v Speaker 1>side linebacker. Right, he's got Derrick Brooks. I'm not suggesting that,

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<v Speaker 1>but he plays a style very similar to Derek Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>He's great in coverage, he just finds the football. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's sort of my UH blueprint for that position,

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the weak side linebacker in this particular scheme. My blueprint

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:55.520
<v Speaker 1>is Derek Brooks and he fits that blueprint. Not in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of talent, he's not there yet. I mean, that's

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:00.679
<v Speaker 1>that's Crazy's the guys in the hall same. But what

0:23:00.720 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I am saying is he plays that style of football

0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's the perfect fit for this scheme. So between

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the scheme fit and just his football i Q which

0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.879
<v Speaker 1>is really really off the charts. He's running the defensive huddle, Uh,

0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>he's he's wearing the green dot on the helmet's he's

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<v Speaker 1>I think a guy who has already really earned his

0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>coaches trust as a rookie twenty three years old. All

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.960
<v Speaker 1>those things combine, I think make him just a really

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 1>really great prospect, and the culture drives with him. So

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>when you say those Tony Dongee lud defenses and Love Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking four three cover two, run to the football,

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<v Speaker 1>play with speed and ferocity. With that being said, the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets just rushed for three three yards. Do you think

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>they're They're running game poses a threat to the Colts

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 1>defense that is predicated on speed. Yeah, And I think

0:23:55.920 --> 0:24:00.360
<v Speaker 1>those are the matchups that these kinds of schemes have trouble, right,

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.639
<v Speaker 1>And I remember, uh, the year the Colts went to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl, the first Super Bowl under oh, well,

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I guess I was gonna say first under Tony Dungee,

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Tony Dundee's loan Super Bowl in two thousand and six.

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 1>There was the run up to that. They had certainly

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a game where the Jacksonville Jaguars rush for three hundred

0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:21.920
<v Speaker 1>yards and and there were a lot of doubts going

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<v Speaker 1>into that postseason, like how is this team going, how

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>is this defense wanted to hold up? You know, and

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 1>they were able to sort of pull it together and

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and make that run into the postseason and win the

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl ultimately. But I do think that is an

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 1>example of of where this scheme can be problematic. So

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll see. I mean, they haven't played a ton of

0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:50.560
<v Speaker 1>really run heavy teams, but the Patriots did have some

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.120
<v Speaker 1>success there and I still mixed in and we one

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 1>had some success for Cincinnati. So I think that's their challenge.

0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I think there they are a team that that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it difficult for you to throw the ball down

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the field. Again that yeah, yeah, well that's that's kind

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 1>of the calling card. But but I think the one

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>area where you can exploit this scheme is with a

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.959
<v Speaker 1>power running game. So that's gonna be the test. Stephen.

0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 1>What's been the fall out there in American's heartland after

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the St. Patrick's Day trade? Is the Jets went up

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>to number three overall. The Colts moved back, picking up

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Quentin Nelson from Notre Dame, an offensive lineman who could

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:34.639
<v Speaker 1>be a really good one, a fixture up in front

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of Andrew Luck for maybe the next time to fifteen years.

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>And then they picked up a three second round picks

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in the process. Of course, Yeah, I tell you what

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I thought fans really had a reaction to that,

0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>to that trade, and you know, you know, with fins,

0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>never know how these things are gonna go. And I

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>was pleasantly surprised. I thought people really had an open

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 1>mind about it, and they understood that this was a

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 1>long term vision and in order to execute your long

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 1>term visions, well you need draft picks. And that's what

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.160
<v Speaker 1>this was about. This was about draft picks. And yet

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>they were still able to get the player they loved

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in Clinton Nelson, and they were willing to take that

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.879
<v Speaker 1>risk that be there. I think it was, you know,

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a pretty reasonable risk to take given the needs of

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>the players in front of them. So or the teams

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.520
<v Speaker 1>in front of them, so they forecasted it perfectly, the Colts,

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>and they were able to pick up some extra picks.

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>They feel good about their their hall of second rounders.

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean they've got they picked. They had four second

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 1>rounders this year, and they feel pretty good about all

0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 1>those guys. So they were able to really hit some

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>important spots to the football team, various learners one of

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>those second round picks, for example. So they feel great

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 1>about it, and I think they should. I think they

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>did a pretty good job. These guys are Obviously the

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>jury still out on all those young players, but if

0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:00.640
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to rebuild a roster, the the quickest way

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 1>to do it is to get an accumulation of draft picks.

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And and that has been the goal for j M

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>because Ballard his first two drafts, and that trade with

0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the Jets was a huge part of that. Yeah, I

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>think both teams are gonna look back at the straight

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>in five seven years and they're both going to be happy.

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a win win, and and that's really

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the best case scenario. I thought that way when it happened,

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and of course at that point you're forecasting. But now

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that we have something to look back on. I think

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it's really truly is shaping up that way, and and

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I think both teams got the best of both worlds

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>out of this. I think they're both very happy and

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>should be speaking of the best world. Do you think

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the Colts were fortunate the way that all played out?

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Josh McDaniels ended up staying in New England, of course,

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 1>but the Colts came right back and got a guy

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>who I think it's been very impressive so far in

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>a frank right, because the Colts, like you mentioned before,

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and then been in every game. Yes, they lost to

0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 1>New England by four team points, but you look at

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>these other losses on the schedule, whether whether that be

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati an opening day, I think that's a one point game,

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia was a couple of point game, Houston overtime game.

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Rich seems like he's got that moving in the right direction. Yeah.

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>And here's another fun fact other than the New England game,

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the the loft is outside of New England.

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:31.879
<v Speaker 1>So Cincinnati, Houston, and Philadelphia, the Colts were driving for

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the win on their last possession. I think in each

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 1>case under a minute ago, we're driving for the win

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and just for various reasons, didn't get it done. Un Philadelphia,

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>they got to the four yard line that stopped on downs.

0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just a tragic way to lose.

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>But in the event, I do think that, yes, Frank

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Wright is a really great fit for this team. As

0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I said, they're really young, so I think leadership is

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>huge for this team. And look, I don't know Josh McDaniels.

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't have a personal relationship with

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the guy, but I think the questions about him are

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>our areas where they were there was a very important

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>questions to be answered for this team. In other words,

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>what I mean by that is, you know, lead us hip,

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>uh bringing you know, sort of bringing character to that

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>locker room. Can he do that? You know, I don't know,

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 1>can you get it? You can get players to follow

0:29:22.400 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>him at tough times things like that. Those are questions

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>that I think we're we're difficult to answer about Josh McDaniels.

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>What I liked about the possible higher was offensively he

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was going to get answered about going I mean, I

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>had no doubts about that, So that's great. But here

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the culture getting that from Frank Raich. They're getting a

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>guy with really interesting offensive scheme okay, really innovative, are

0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 1>very uh, very analytics driven, much like Douck Peterson and

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Philly I think, really cutting edge stuff offensively. They're getting that,

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.800
<v Speaker 1>but they're also getting what seems to be a really

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I think a great leader of men in Frank Rich

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>who uh, I think from day one really got his

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>guys to buy in and and that was hard to do.

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, after what happened. I mean, you're the second choice,

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you're the fallback plan, and you've got to get these

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>guys to come on board and to buy into what

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you're selling. And he was able to do that right away.

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>So he just I think has had a compelling message

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 1>for his players that they have been just willing to

0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>follow him. As I said, from day one, it has

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>never been an issue, and that's a credit to Frank Wright.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 1>The final question on my end here, Stephen, is that

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Marcus Hunt is someone that I think fans are somewhat

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>familiar with, and I think NFL fans are somewhat familiar with.

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But what's gone on from your perspective in the resurgence

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>of Marcus Hunt as one of the very good d

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>linemen of his class. It's astounding. I don't, I don't

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 1>know how this happened. Marcus Hunt was on this team

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 1>last year and I barely called his name. I don't

0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 1>even know if I really storried about Marcus Unt. He

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't really a factor. And you know, he always

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 1>had sort of a special team's presence, so that was

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>always helpful to keep him on a roster. He could

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>give you some some good snaps, whether a defensive end

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>or at the interior spot, and you know, maybe as

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>a depth player, but certainly wasn't a frontline player this year.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>There's a combination of things. Um, it's uh, it's a

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 1>change in scheme. He really has adapted well to it.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I think he's played the four or three before,

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>but not in this style of fortnery. So this is

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>more of a more of an attacking scheme. Get up

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the field, get off the ball. Uh. It's not a

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>uh they're they're playing in the gaps, they're shooting gaps

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and and basically it's this in uh, what they're asking

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 1>from their defensive linemen. So he adapts well to that,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and then he's just getting more opportunity I looked back

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>at his snap counts over the years, and this is,

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, by fur the most Marcus Hunt has ever played.

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>It's last year Cincinnati, if I remember correctly, he played

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.760
<v Speaker 1>about fifteen percent of the defensive snaps and it's really

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>hard too much in that situation. Now, you could argue

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>he didn't earn more snaps, and that's probably what the

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Bengals would tell you. Uh, And that's that's fine, that's

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>not that's not an illegitimate argument. I think that's very fair.

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is he's getting opportunities

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's making most of them, and I think that

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>builds confidence. And he just looks really comfortable right now.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is he's stills a versatility. He

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>started off the year defensive end. Uh, some injuries popped

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>up and they asked him to play three technique defensive tackle. Well,

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that ended up being very productive for Marcus Hunt, and

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>so he's actually now spending more time there. The Colts

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>really liked that spot for him, so uh, they're they're

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 1>fine with it. They're ready for him to keep this up.

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>That is Stephen Holder of the Athletic. You can follow

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>him on Twitter at holder, Stephen with a pH not

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>in f Stephen, thank you so much for coming on

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the Official Jets Podcast and we'll see you Sunday alright,

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>looking forward to it. Thanks for having me, Thanks Stephen. Okay, so,

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 1>green's a big picture here for the Jets. Damn an

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to get to three and three in the biggest

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>game ever. As you're calling that, well, you could almost

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 1>call it the Super Bowl, no pun intended. We will

0:33:28.320 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>get there in a second. But how about this. Miami's

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>playing the Bears. Bears are in Chicago. I don't know

0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>where that game is and I don't know I don't

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 1>have it. And New England is playing Kansas City. I'm

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>excited to watch that game. That's football. There is a

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 1>chance the Jets could be sitting there Sunday night at

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>three and three. The Dolphins could be three and three,

0:33:52.400 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>The Patriots could be three and three. The Patriots will score.

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Are they gonna be able to score enough against that

0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>freak Patty Mahomes and company? Okay, this the threes thing

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 1>is really blowing my mind here with the three and three,

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the three and three, the Jets straight up from six

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>to three and oh, by the way, the Jets are

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:15.919
<v Speaker 1>honoring the team of Super Bowl three. There is some

0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:18.800
<v Speaker 1>weird stuff going on right now. That's not weird because

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that's fifty but it's Super Bowl three fifty years And

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't checked out that podcast with Bob Letterer,

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>that's posted as well, so check that out. Jets colts. Oh,

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody's asking me about uniforms all the time, white on white,

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>gray face masks like they did January twelve night. But

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>but the decals not changing, right, No, just just making

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>sure because some fans is gonna be like, are they

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>the old helmets? No. The final score, I'm very excited

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 1>at sixteen and seven. Could you imagine if that was

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the final score of this game? Now, that would bring

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the house down A lot of festivities this weekend. The

0:34:55.640 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl three team, we'll be here um throughout the weekend.

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I think they arrived on Friday and Saturday will be

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.479
<v Speaker 1>out here after walk through and then Saturday night Chris

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Berman is hosting at dinner at Life Stadium. The Q

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and A is going to be broadcast live stream live

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>on some Jets platforms. Sunday, we gotta breakfast um, and

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>then you gotta check out pregame Central and eleven a m.

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot going on. And for the record, the

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Dolphins and Patriots are home. The Bills are on the

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 1>road against Texas Bills and Texans. That will probably be

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>a defensive struggle. Josh Allen is finding his way right now. Um.

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:36.760
<v Speaker 1>I think Sam Donald the Jets rookies a lot further

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>advance in terms of pocket presence, getting rid of the

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>football on time, and things like that. The Bills are

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>taking baby steps right now, and they're winning with their

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>defense and want two of their last three games. You

0:35:48.440 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 1>can't forget about them and the equation so early in

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the season. But I'm just saying, there is a chance

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you could be looking at all these teams that sitting

0:35:58.560 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 1>there within three and three. That probably won't happen, but

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 1>the Jets have a halvan opportunity to get to get

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the three and three, And then wouldn't that be something

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.239
<v Speaker 1>The players can leave my Life stadium, the fans can

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>celebrate Super Bowl three, and then you go home and

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>watch Kansas City put one on New England. I think

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're all rooting for. So you're saying there's

0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:21.839
<v Speaker 1>a chance. Dumb and Dumber a great movie but that's

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>all we have here. On the Official Jets podcast this week,

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you get Jets and Colts Sunday, one o'clock met Life Stadium.

0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:31.919
<v Speaker 1>We said it multiple times on multiple podcasts. Get Chip

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Hop Corner early. Don't go anywhere during halftime because the

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl three team will be honored and you don't

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>want to miss it. But that's all we have here

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see you Sunday