1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound on. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: You will not allow the American people to suffer because 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: of the backwards agenda that House Republicans are naming. It's 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: not about Democrats and Republicans get the best person. It's 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: willing to speak your mind. Bloomberg Sound on Politics, policy 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: and perspective from DC's top names. Both sides of the 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: aisle on the Oversight Committee have what you would call firebrands. 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Please Sloomberg Sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. 9 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: The White House says it will cooperate with Republicans in 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: the House, not over the debt, but the documents. Welcome 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: to the fastest hour in politics is the administration response 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: to request from the Oversight Committee after yet another discovery 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: of classified documents, this time in Joe Biden's home. We're 14 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: join tonight by Brett Ruin of the Global Situation Room, 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: former director of Global Engagement at the White House, who 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: knows what it means to have a security clearance. The 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: race for Arizona Senate gets real. We'll tell you who's 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: running for the Democratic nomination now that Senator Kirston Cinema 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: has left the party. And discussed with Jessica Taylor at 20 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: the Cook Report, and as the White House threatens de 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Vito Republican legislation putting new restrictions on the spr We'll 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: talk about all these stories with our panel today, Bloomberg 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Politics contributor, Democratic analyst Jennie Schanzano and Republicans strategist Lisa 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: Camuso Miller. The White House may not be answering a 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: lot of questions trying hard not to do about classified documents, 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: including the latest disclosed over the weekend, but it is 27 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: now preparing to cooperate with Republicans in the House, at 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: least to a point. As White House Counsel Stuart Delry 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: replies to an inquiry from the House Oversight Committee, chare 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: Jim Comber. We told you when Comber was asking for this. Uh. 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: The reply, in a letter obtained by Bloomberg, I've got 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: it right here, saying the administration is seeking to accommodate 33 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: lidgitimate oversight interests. The language is important here while also 34 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: respecting the separation of powers and obligations of the executive branch. 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: So yes, we'll talk to you, but there are limits. 36 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Right now. President Biden has not spoken about this since 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Friday on his trip to California, when he said, no regrets. Listen, 38 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: we're going to find there's nothing there. I have no regrets. 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm following what the lawyers have told me. They want 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: me to do exactly what we're doing. There's no there there. 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: Then more documents blows up over the weekend, and largely 42 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: what was discussed on Sunday morning shows. Congressman Michael McCall, 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Republican on the Oversight Committee making the comparison to the 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Granddaddy of all presidential scandals when he appeared on ABC 45 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: this week, here he is. You know, Watergate started as 46 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: a very small burglary and it led to the President 47 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: United States for resigning. So I don't know what's there 48 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: until we see the documents Watergate. That we should note 49 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: that the FBI was invited this time around, which is 50 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: an interesting element of this story. Let's talk about it 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: all with Brett Brewin. I've been looking forward to this 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: President of the Global Situation Room, former director of Global 53 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: Engagement in the Obama White House, the crisis communications expert, 54 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: and God knows we need you now, Brett, welcome back. 55 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: You would have lost your security clearance for this right, 56 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: sure would have you know. I actually lived in fear 57 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 1: as many of us working at the National Security Council did, 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: just about misplacing or leaving behind any classified documents because 59 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: just Jodah walk the listeners briefly through. If you were 60 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: printing off a classified document goes on to a special printer, 61 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: you then put a staple a cover page onto it. 62 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: If you were carrying it out of the office, you 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: would put it in a locked bag. So there are 64 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: a whole number of steps that you would take in 65 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: any time that you were walking out of the office 66 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: and leaving classified material behind. It went in a lock safe. 67 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: So the notion that this was just sitting around in 68 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: his office unguarded in and of itself was a real 69 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: problem not to mention for a lot of years. I 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: mean some of this went back to and even before 71 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: that as senator. Actually I don't know how sensitive those 72 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: documents are, but that initial batch was from his time 73 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: as vice president. And this is the problem with his 74 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: comments on Friday. Not only is there a there there, 75 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: it's also over there and back there and around there 76 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: as well. So this isn't a case of a batch 77 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: or you know, a few documents that inadvertently got taken 78 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: with him. There was clearly a pattern and a pattern 79 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: that he has to acknowledge, and I think he has 80 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: to accept responsibility for and whatever consequences come with that, 81 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: and then take action. And this is one of the 82 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: key things that I've been calling for for the better 83 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: part of the last week, is we have to fix 84 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: this system because it clearly happened under Trump and now 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: again under Biden. We're going to get to that in 86 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: just a moment. Uh. You specialize in crisis communications, you 87 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: teach it at Georgetown. Uh, how else should this administration 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: be handling this rather than trying to play it down 89 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: at this point? Well, this is the problem is that 90 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: they're not saying very much and so it enables those critics, 91 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: myself included, to dominate the discussion around this versus I 92 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: think there are examples Hillary Clinton going up to the 93 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: Benghazi hearing, the case of Chris Christie, the governor of 94 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: New Jersey at the time, with the scandal around Bridgegate. 95 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: You go out and you answer all of the questions, 96 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: You exhaust the questions, and you ensure yes, obviously there 97 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: are legal issues at stake, but quite frankly, there are 98 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: very consequential public confidence issues at stake here too. There, 99 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: of course, some important differences in the Trump and Biden cases, 100 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: and it's it was an interesting move to and to 101 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: sort of invite the FBI into of the home to 102 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: take that particular talking point away from Republicans. But Senator 103 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: Chris Coon's, the Democrat from Joe Biden's home state of 104 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: delawaresays it boils down to one major difference. He was 105 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning on ABC this week as well. I 106 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: have some confidence that because he is fully cooperating, we 107 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: will get to the bottom of this. And there is 108 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: one important document that distinguishes former President Trump from President Biden. 109 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: That's a warrant. It required an FBI search, a non 110 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: consensual warrant driven search, to get the documents from our 111 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: lago and President former President Trump continues to insist that 112 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: he's above the law, um that he had the right 113 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: to take whatever documents he chose to from the White House. 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: Senator I want to get that and fully cooperated, and 115 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: I think that makes a real difference here. Okay, so 116 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the search warrant is the answer, Brett, Does that not 117 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: make these two different conversations where they seem to be 118 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: melding into one. There's no doubt we're talking about two 119 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: very different in circumstances when it came to the discovery 120 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: of these documents. That being said, it doesn't change the 121 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: fact that the documents themselves were taken out of a 122 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: secure space, and there are issues of exposure, there are 123 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: issues of handling, and I think that has to be 124 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: acknowledged because the administration is resting on this notion of 125 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: what we're cooperating. Yes, but there was still a problem 126 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: which obviously has to be addressed as well. We don't 127 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: really have a sense of scale here, do we. People 128 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: talk about we use the term documents. I think that's 129 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: actually very confusing for a lot of people because that 130 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: could mean a hundred pages, right, I mean, my goodness 131 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: that there there were hundreds of pages in the Trump files, 132 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: maybe more than that. Can you help us put that 133 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: in perspective? Well, I think it's also really important no 134 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: matter how many pages we're talking about, what kind of 135 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: information is involved here, because it could be one line, 136 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: but it could be a very important bit of intelligence, 137 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: and that I think it deals with the severity of 138 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: what we face here. So it's important for the audience 139 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: to understand that even one page of classified information could 140 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: compromise a whole number of sources, compromise our officers in 141 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: the field, and put our allies in a really tough spot. 142 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I lived through numerous exposures of classified documents 143 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: from Edward Snowden all the way through UH two wiki leaks, 144 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: and they're challenging and they really do put American foreign 145 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: policy in the bind. Huge thanks today to Howard Mortman 146 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: from c SPAN, who you I don't know if you 147 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: follow him. Breperty twee did video of Senator Daniel Patrick 148 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: moynihan speaking to the National Press Club about redefining government 149 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: secrecy and making documents more availab will uh. He chaired 150 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: a commission on protecting and reducing government secrecy, listened to 151 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: his recommendations. He had two of them on handling classified documents. 152 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: This was in keep in mind here, Senator morning. We 153 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: have two ideas. One two proposals. One is that there'd 154 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: be a statute regulating establishing the classification of documents. And 155 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: most important of all, that the original classifier signed his 156 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: or her name. You know who said this is top secret. 157 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I said so on this date and and you can 158 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: go back and say, well why or you know that 159 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that's a responsibility and you better be held accountable for him. Two, 160 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: we would hope for a declassification center, a declassification center 161 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: that he said would organize the Freedom of Information Act process. 162 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: I actually got online and watched the whole speech. Brett, 163 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: what are these ideas to prevent this from happening? Again? 164 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Do you have your own? Well, I would say it 165 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: has to start with instituting at the White House, State Department, 166 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Defense Department checks that go over material that's leaving the building, 167 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: because whether it's a president packing out, whether it's other 168 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: officials leaving, we don't in many of these cases have 169 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: sufficient verification that information, either inadvertently or intentionally is leaving 170 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: the building. We do a whole lot to keep people 171 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: from getting in. I think Senator moynihan was onto something 172 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: and looking at why have we classified information? Is it overclassified? 173 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: And and let's have a process that is faster and 174 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: that goes farther than currently. A lot of that information 175 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: sits behind an iron wall. But it doesn't change Joe, 176 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: the fact that this information got out. It was not 177 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: supposed to get out, and we have to acknowledge that 178 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: this administration has not done a great job of recognizing 179 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: when something went wrong and then going about and fixing it. Brett, 180 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: thank you for being here. It's great to hear your voice, 181 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: Brett ruin a global situation room as we assemble our 182 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: panel for the political side of all of this. Genie Schanzano, 183 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: Democratic analyst and Bloomberg Politics contributor, joined to day by 184 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: Lisa Cabusa Miller, former communications director for the r n 185 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: C Republican Strategists. Great to have you both, Genie. I 186 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know where we're going here. They 187 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: could find more, I suppose after this conversation. But at 188 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: what point does Joe Biden have no credibility to tell 189 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: the American people that he takes this very seriously as 190 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: he keeps repeating, yeah, he First of all, you made me, 191 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: miss Senator moynihan, so thank you very much. I love 192 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: that clip. But you know, I think the Biden problem 193 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: is this constant drip drip that we keep hearing about 194 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: every Saturday. It seems, you know, they drip more documents 195 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: and the reality is this happen And just one day 196 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: after he broke his silence, on this and said, you know, 197 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: there's really as Brett was just saying nothing to see here, 198 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: there's nothing there there, and then all of a sudden 199 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: there was something. And of course there is a way 200 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: to handle this to say I'm very sorry, this was wrong. 201 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: We all have to do a better job. The investigation 202 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: needs to move forward. I'm going to focus on the 203 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: American public and their issues and let the investigation move forward. 204 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: But to continue to deny and quite frankly, I thought 205 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: Senator Cohon's talking about Donald Trump. The bar is not 206 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: We're better than Donald Trump at this It's all wrong 207 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: and they have to acknowledge that. Well, that's where it's 208 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: been set for the moment, Lisa, I don't know your 209 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on another weekend here. Uh is this White House 210 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: losing or has it lost control of a narrative? Well, 211 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: the one regret that President Biden is going to have 212 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: his saying that he has no regrets, that's for sure. 213 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: This is a terrible thing and it keeps happening. Just 214 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: like Jeanie said, it the continual drip. It's a death 215 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: by a thousand and cuts. It's not a comparison to 216 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: the former president. It's the fact that this has been 217 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: handled the way it is, and he has said that 218 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: there would be an investigation. There's now going to be 219 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: a special counsel for both of these situations. But I 220 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: do think that it's interesting that you had you shared 221 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: the clip from Howard Mortman, and that is that there 222 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: ought to be process and who's to say who else 223 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: has documents? Right? So, how many other secrets are just 224 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: sort of out in the world here, right? I mean, 225 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: there have been so many people that have had access 226 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: to these kinds of things. It's a general concern. It's 227 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: a concern we should have overall. Uh, these are American secrets. 228 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: It's a national security issue. Having access is different than 229 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: bringing at home, though, isn't it. I mean, how many 230 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: people are I mean, God, maybe I shouldn't talk. Maybe 231 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: I really should hire someone to look through this house 232 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: because I'm going to find something. I just don't think. 233 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: You know how many people have a security clearance who 234 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: also feel that comfortable bringing things home, Lisa. I had 235 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: security clearance for the three years that I worked for 236 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: the Bush administration, and I never once even saw a 237 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: confidential document. But I will tell you that the process 238 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: to even view those was so secure and so um, 239 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: it was just just as was described earlier. It is 240 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: a full process you have. Sometimes you even leave the 241 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 1: room and leave your phone and everything else behind to 242 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: go into a secure location even view these documents. It 243 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: is surprising, but but perhaps when you're making those big 244 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: transition out of the White House, there's a difference there. 245 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: You know. I haven't been there to see how that 246 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: goes down, but it certainly seems to be very sloppy 247 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: and and just really very embarrassing. Wow, Jennie, you know 248 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: what you you heard? Senator Coon's there. He was backing 249 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: up Joe Biden. And that's probably going to be the 250 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: case always, but some Democrats are are pushing it a 251 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: little bit further here. You might have seen Dick Durbin 252 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: on CNN over the weekend saying that Joe Biden should 253 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: be embarrassed by this situation. How long before that's the 254 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: chorus coming out of the Senate, particularly when Democrats say 255 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: enough is enough here, let's investigate Joe Biden. Yeah. I mean, 256 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: I think we are going to continue to hear that 257 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: the more we hear this information come out. And let's 258 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: not forget what we heard over the weekend is that 259 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: this was classified information going back to his time in 260 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: the Senate. He was last the Senate in two thousand 261 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: and nine. That is a long time ago, and he 262 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: was there thirty six years. This is an enormous problem. 263 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: One excuse we hear is that the higher up you 264 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: go senator, VP, President, the more access you have. Well, 265 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: if that's the case, then they have to address the 266 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: issue of how this classified information is handled at that level. 267 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: But none of it excuses this behavior. And I think 268 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: Dick Durban his statement was valid. I mean he said 269 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: it diminishes the stature of the person in possession of it. 270 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: It's not supposed to happen, and that is true. And 271 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: President Biden owes it the American people to say, that's right. 272 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Let the investigation go forward. I'm not going to defend 273 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: this anymore because you can't defend the indefensible. Yeah. Well, 274 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: look there's a call for Joe Biden to say more 275 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: Lisa from a crisis communication standpoint, Uh, do you do 276 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: you tell him to do that? Do you have more 277 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: candor I can't believe that, you know, be more honest 278 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: about it? Or does he really need to stay buttoned 279 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: up right now? Because there's a major news vacuum at 280 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: that end of Pennsylvania Avenue. Yeah, it feels that way, Joe. 281 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean it feels like it's too little, too late 282 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: now right. I mean, if at the very beginning of 283 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: this there was a full disclosure, or there was even 284 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, you've participated in plenty of these, you have 285 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: a background briefing about the TikTok about how this all 286 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: came through and how the information is coming out. But 287 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: it seems to me like, because these are coming out 288 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: in these small batches, it strikes me as it almost 289 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: looks as if they're holding something back, and perhaps they're not. 290 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Perhaps they are finding out just like the rest of 291 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: us are. Regardless of all of that, it is embarrassing 292 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: and it is it is not becoming of any elected 293 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: official in our country. Lisa Caboosa Miller is with us 294 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: along with Jennie Chanzano, our panel for today on the 295 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Fastest Hour in Politics. We stay at the White House. 296 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: Coming up, look at a new threat by the White 297 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: House to veto legislation that would put some curbs on 298 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. They say, actually it will send 299 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: your gas prices higher. We'll pick through that news today 300 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: and get analysis from Genie and Lisa X. This is Bloomberger. 301 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg, So Long with Joe Mathew on Bloomberg Radio. 302 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: The Biden administration released more than a hundred eighty million 303 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: barrels of crude from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve last year, 304 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: you know when it was all in an effort to 305 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: lower gas prices. The administration says it worked well. Now 306 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: there's a movement on Capitol Hill to make it a 307 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: lot more difficult for the White House to do this, 308 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: to access the spr without concessions. Introducing HR one would 309 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: prevent draw downs from the reserve until a plan is 310 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: provided for increasing the percentage of federal land leased for 311 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: oil and gas production. This is a Republican bill, and 312 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: the White House doesn't having any part of it. They 313 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: want to have the freedom, of course, to be able 314 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: to do this. By the way, refilling the reserve is 315 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: its own story. At the moment, they're taking it seriously 316 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: enough that Jennifer Granholm, the Energy Secretary, was was brought 317 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: into the briefing room today as kind of the opening 318 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: act for a Press Secretary Karine John Pierre. Here she 319 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: is proposals like HR one, which risks raising these gas 320 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: prices and make it an offer harder to offer Americans 321 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: relief in the future are simply nonstarted. So I'll be 322 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: very clear, if Congress were to pass HR, the President 323 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: would veto it. He will not allow the American people 324 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: to suffer because of the backwards agenda that House Republicans 325 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: are advancing. There's your veto threat. This comes, by the way, 326 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: on the heels of reporting by Bloomberg. As a matter 327 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: of fact, just a couple of weeks ago that her department, 328 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: the Department of Energy, rejected the first batch of bids 329 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: UH to refill some of the oil in the SPR. 330 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: Price wasn't right. So it's unclear exactly how long that's 331 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: going to take, although she kind of brushed off a 332 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: question on that today's suggesting that it will not be 333 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: a problem at all. It's reassembled. Our panel, Jeannie Chanzano 334 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: and Lisa Kmuso Miller are with us as we try 335 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: to get our heads around this. Lisa, this has been 336 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: a big issue for this White House. They claim that 337 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: this UH this obviously helped to get us all through 338 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: the summer and bring gas prices down from historic levels. 339 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: But the SPR is supposed to be for a crisis, 340 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of folks question their definition of one 341 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: in this case, does that legislation need to move? Was 342 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: this the right idea? You know? I actually think it 343 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: may be, um And here's why. Certainly, anytime gas prices 344 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: are high, the president suffers politically right, So, and they're 345 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: looking at two years from now running for re election 346 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: in the in the Biden White House. Look, deploying American 347 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: resources will strengthen national security. But if we are still 348 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: relying on our adversaries China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, you name it, 349 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: for our oil resources, if we could be energy independent, Uh, 350 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: that to me seems like it's counter to what they 351 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: have said in the past that they are for in 352 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: the Biden administration and that they want to make sure 353 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: that we're identifying opportunities to be energy independent and to 354 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: be smart about the way we use our resources. Using 355 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: the resources at home certainly seems a lot smarter than 356 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: counting on our enemies. And that to me is I 357 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: think where the Republican move this week in this legislation 358 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: is to is to go. Well, it's interesting, Genie, that's 359 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: a Democratic bill, the Bylow Cell High Act. I love 360 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: the love the name of this uh would give the 361 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: White House more freedom to make sales and purchases from 362 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: the SPR. Because one of the points that Secretary grand 363 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: Holme was making today is they intend to make money 364 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: on this oil. They did sell it at the most 365 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: expensive level, and they're going to buy it back now 366 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: it what appears to be a lower one. So are 367 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: we supposed to look at the SPR as kind of 368 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: a piggy bank as well? Well, you know, I think 369 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with them wanting to do that. Um, 370 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, let's first be clear, this thing would have 371 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: to pass this Senate, and that is going to be 372 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: an uphill battle. So you know, the fact that it 373 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: could pass the House, which it still is, you know 374 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: it could is we have a little time on this. 375 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: But you know, I do think one of the issues 376 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 1: that the White House has with the Republican version of 377 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: this bill is the fact that they believe that this 378 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: is an attempt to profit with the oil companies, right, 379 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: because the reality is is the what the Republican bill 380 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: is saying is that you have to do this, if 381 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: you do this. Rather, it is conditional on more drilling 382 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: for oil and gas on federal lands and so that 383 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: is the sticking point here for the Biden administration. And 384 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, it is no surprise to me that Congress 385 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: wants to limit the president's authority here, and the president 386 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: has every right to try to retain that and do 387 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: what is in the best interest of the American public 388 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: at the time they're facing it. And I agree with Lisa, 389 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: sure there is a concern they do that for political reasons, 390 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: But to limit the president in that way and make 391 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: it conditional the way the Republican bill does, I think 392 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: is problematic. In the White House has a right to 393 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: right to fight back on that. Well, there's an early 394 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: veto threat from a White House that is about to 395 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: do quite a dance with House Republicans over the next 396 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: year or two years, I guess we could say. And 397 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: there were a lot of questions over the weekend about 398 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: the makeup, specifically of the Oversight Committee, which we touched 399 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: on a bit last week when these names first dropped. 400 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: But the reaction was really fascinating and consistent as you 401 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: listen to the comments that were made. Jim Comer, the 402 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: Congressman who now chairs the Oversight Committee, was asked on 403 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: PBS about the fact that Marjorie Taylor Green is on 404 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: that committee. Now, remembering she backed Kevin McCarthy, she got 405 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: the Oversight committee that she wanted here, uh, noting that 406 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: even in she cast doubt on whether an airplane hit 407 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: the Pentagon on leven, listened to Congressman Comber, both side 408 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: of the aisle on the Oversight committee, have you would 409 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: call firebrands. Remember they have the majority of the squad 410 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: over there. You have to leave who has said anti 411 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: Semitic statements. You have Occascio, Cortez and Pressley and Bush 412 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: who have said things that I would consider anti America. 413 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: Genie are their equivalences that you see their in Congressman 414 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: Coomer's pointing out, you know they're going to continue to 415 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: say this. But not only did she question nine eleven, 416 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: she has made anti Semitic claims. She said Nancy Pelosi 417 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: should face death for treason. I mean, there's a whole 418 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: litany of things. She now seems to be reborn, rebirthed. 419 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: We're seeing her being embraced by Kevin McCarthy. But the 420 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: reality is we don't know, and Republicans more importantly, don't 421 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: know what they're going to get until these hearings commenced, 422 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: and the word Democrats are using is giddy at the 423 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: fact that they have Marjorie Telegreen, Lauren Boeber, and Paul 424 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: ghost are on this committee. They would like nothing more 425 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: than that, you know, sort of crazy to show itself 426 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: so that they can point to that and say this 427 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: is what you don't want in the White House in 428 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: twenty four and you don't want them controlling the Congress. 429 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: So Republicans are going to have to deal with what 430 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: they get when these hearings start. If these three and more, 431 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, go out to do what they usually do, 432 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: which is trying to get media attention, that's so there 433 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: it is, Lisa, what is it going to be like 434 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: when Marjorie Taylor Greene starts asking questions, Lauren Bobert starts 435 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: asking questions, And what are these hearings going to be like? Well, Joe, 436 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be entertaining. Um, but I 437 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: will say this, okay. So to Jeannie's point, this is 438 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: the difference between members legislating in the minority and legislating 439 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: in the majority. And the truth is is that Chairman 440 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: Comber is a very serious dude. He is going to 441 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: do everything he can to rain these really these brand 442 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: new members to the committee in They will have some say, 443 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: they will have the ability to ask questions, but the 444 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: chairman is not going to want to look like a 445 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: three circus. He's going to do everything he can to 446 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: keep it serious because really his name is on the door. 447 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: He is the chairman, and so as much as he'll 448 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: have the three of them on the committee, and they 449 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: are bound to do whatever they can to make themselves 450 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: Internet sensations over every opportunity they can. Sure, I really 451 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: do think that Chairman Comer is going to do everything 452 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: he can to maintain a level of seriousness because otherwise 453 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: the credibility of his work really comes to question. Listen 454 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: to Congressman Michael McColl of course on the Oversight Committee 455 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: as well. Republican Jeanie He was asked about Marjorie hit 456 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: Taylor Green on ABC this week. I'm having to debunk this. 457 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: This one was a worse violation. Nine eleven was not 458 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: a hoax. It was a carried out Bell Kaida. There's 459 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: no question my Mark and anybody that says that you 460 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: know like this is, I will tell you she has matured. 461 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: I think she is. She realizes she doesn't know everything, 462 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: and she wants to learn and become I think more 463 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: of a team player. I think it's incumbent upon more 464 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: senior members to try, look, she's a memory Congress, to 465 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: try to bring her in and try to educate her 466 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: that these theories that she has are not accurate. It's 467 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: a pretty candid moment. Actually, Genie sounds like he's talking 468 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: about a college student or something. He's referring there again 469 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: to the nine eleven conspiracy theory. How can you function 470 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: on a committee when a senior member is talking about 471 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: you like that on Sunday morning television. Yeah. Yeah, he's 472 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: basically saying, you know, it's not me, it's not my fault. 473 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: And you know, to your point, it's almost like these 474 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: are children who are growing before our eyes and we're 475 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: all supposed to be victimized watching them realized that nine 476 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: eleven actually a plane did hit the Pentagon and people 477 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: were killed. You know, it's it's the height of insanity, 478 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: and let's not you know, let's do dual duty. In 479 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: terms of the Democrats, they kicked her off the committees 480 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: and she raised three million dollars off of that, which 481 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: is why she's etpowered the way she is today. Kevin 482 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: McCarthy is going to have to deal with the outcome 483 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,919 Speaker 1: of this because he couldn't become speaker unless he agreed 484 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: to it. So you know, the blame is all around. 485 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: But the problem is the American public is on the 486 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: losing end of this because serious work should be done 487 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: on oversight. God only knows, and it's unclear at this 488 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: point whether it's going to happen. Lisa, You're so glad 489 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: amount of time in this segment right, hard to defend 490 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: Lisa Caboosa, Miller, Jeannie Chanzano. They're here for the hour. 491 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna turn next to the Senate race in Arizona 492 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: that is now suddenly an actual race. This is Bloomberg 493 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: So Long with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Call it 494 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: a race of one at the moment in Arizona, but 495 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: we do have a race, not surprising anyone. Congressman Ruben 496 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Diego of Arizona has made official his campaign for the 497 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: headline on the terminal. Diego could have clear path denomination 498 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: for Cinema seat. Yes, kirston Cinema seat, remembering she left 499 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party opening the lane for Mr. Gyago. He 500 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: made the announcement in an online video today. Listen, growing 501 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: up poor, the only thing I really had was the 502 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: American dream, an opportunity to one thing that we give 503 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: every American, no matter where they are born in life. 504 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: It was actually something to believe in and to fight for. 505 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: Really interesting approach different. He's driving a car, not acknowledging 506 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: the camera almost looks like the beginning of some Netflix series, 507 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: you know, a sort of dark and gritty, and it 508 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: goes on for gosh, it's over three minutes long. Through 509 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: his career in the United States Marine Corps is a 510 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: combat veteran, very well produced, and so here we are. 511 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: We had to spend some time with Jessica Taylor on 512 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: this one, Senate and Governor's editor for the Cook Political Report. 513 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: We should note it's great to have you back, Jessica. 514 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: I hope you've been well. Kirston Cinema has actually not 515 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: disclosed her plans, but she's running, right. I think it's 516 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: impossible to predict what Hereson Cinema is going to do. 517 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: That's a big question that that would be a big 518 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: deal if she did not run. I mean it wouldn't 519 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: It would make this a more traditional D versus r race, 520 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: but if she runs as an independent, Democrats were laxed 521 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: with a lot of questions did they support her as 522 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: an incumbent even though she left the party and yet 523 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: still somewhat loosely caucuses with them even though she's you know, 524 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: we have we have two other independents in the Senate, 525 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Angus King of Maine, but 526 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: they officially caucuses Democrats versus she has just keeping her 527 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: committee assignments with them, and Democrats also meet her because 528 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: she is the vote that gives them the fifty forty 529 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: nine majority, So they sort of can't anger her because 530 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: they don't want her to switch to the Republicans um 531 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: that would put it back us back in a fifty 532 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: fifty um split. So Democrats are really sort of a 533 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: really very awkward position. They Arizona State Party there though 534 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: they've censured her, and they've pretty made made pretty clear 535 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: that they are going to back toever the Democratic nominee is. 536 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: But if this is a three way race, it could 537 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: be very interesting. You know, her she could pull We've 538 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: seen in the past few election cycles where um independent 539 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: voters have been so decisive and they voted for Democrats, 540 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: but this she could get those votes in the middle then, 541 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: and could that open that three way dynamic give Republicans 542 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: a shot here even with a more polarizing candidate, which 543 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: is the type of candidate they run in the most 544 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: recent statewide elections. Some real questions here, by the way, 545 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: when you mentioned three way race, we should tell our 546 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: listeners that some pretty familiar names are thinking about running 547 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: for the Republican primary here, Blake Masters, uh, carry Lake 548 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: among them. So you could have a pretty dynamic race 549 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: here considering Kirsten Cinema's base of support, somebody like carry Lake, 550 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: a firebrand like that, or even Blake Masters uh. And 551 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: now you know, you can tell us what kind of 552 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: a candidate Reuben Diego would be. It sounds like that 553 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: would be uh, that would be a bruiser. Diego is 554 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: more progressive than certainly has been Cinema, and more so 555 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: than Mark Kelly, who of course just won two successful elections, 556 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: one for a special election and one for a full 557 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: term UM. And you know he staked out pretty much 558 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: a liberal ground and so so this is a different 559 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: type of candidates that Democrats wouldn't be running UM as well. 560 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: And again this question to me is where did those 561 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: independent voters go when Cinema switched her party affiliation. She 562 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: actually saw her approval rates with Independence go up. And 563 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: did those voters that have been voting Democratic for you know, 564 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: more moderate type candidates, did they then go to Cinema? 565 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: And then where does the split happen? I mean, this 566 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: is where you could see a split among Democrats and 567 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: Independence that could give even a far more polarizing Republican 568 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: nominee a chance. I mean, Republicans best path would be 569 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: to put forward, you know, a more palatable general election nominee, 570 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: someone like I mean the dream candidate would be former 571 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: Governor Job Doocey, who they courted run for Senate in 572 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: twenty two. Intact, UM has a large beef with Trump. 573 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: UM Karen Taylor Robson is another candidate that ran for 574 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: governor and lost the Lake. She is would be a 575 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: more traditional candidate. But you know, even beyond Blake, even 576 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: beyond Blake, Masters and UH and UM, there are other 577 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: candidates that are you know, also very similarly, very far 578 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: right conservative. Andy Biggs, a member of the Freedom Caucus 579 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: in the House that UM ran against Kevin McCarthy first here, 580 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: he was part of that block that helped block him. 581 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: And there's a Pennell County sheriff as was well, that's 582 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: very conservative that is looking at the race. Well, this 583 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: is obviously going to develop quite a bit from here 584 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: about a big stop in the road. Jessica Taylor, I'm 585 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: glad you could join us to talk to us about 586 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: her from the Cook Political Report. I think that's the 587 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: first time we've spoken with Jessica so far this year. 588 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from the panel quickly on this, 589 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: because you know who was talking about her over the weekend. 590 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: He was asked to be fair. Senator Joe Manson asked 591 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: on CNN. I believe it was about his his thoughts 592 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: on supporting his friend Kirsten Cinema even though she's left 593 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. Listen, she's going to be formidable candidate, 594 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: and I would you support her. I would think that 595 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: she needs to be supported again, Yes, because she brings 596 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: that independent spirit, so you will support her even if 597 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: she runs against a Democratic. It's not about Democrats and 598 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: Republican get the best person. It's willing to speak your mind. 599 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: And let me just tell you one thing about when 600 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: we when it came down to that President Trump was 601 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: beating on the Republican Republican delegation in the Senate about 602 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: get rid of the filibuster. We don't need. Let's get 603 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: things done. That's the only check and balance you have 604 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: on the executive branch of government. You're going to be changed. 605 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: There was two of us, didn't change. Let's bring in 606 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: the panel here, Jeannie Schanzano, Democratic analyst, Republican strategist Lisa 607 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: Kamusa Miller. Uh wow, Genie, can you do that as 608 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: as a Democrat in the Senate you support someone running 609 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: against a Democrat. It is gonna be very tough to do. 610 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: But I think Joe Mansion could do it. And you know, 611 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: the reality is the Democrats in this upcoming Senate race 612 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: have an very difficult map. They're defending twenty three seats, 613 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: two held by independence, and many in states that Democrats 614 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: are not that welcome in, including West Virginia, Ohio, Montana. 615 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: So it is a tough year and Democrats are going 616 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: to have to decide, you know, really carefully, whether they 617 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: go the more progressive route and risk losing Arizona, or 618 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: if they decide, you know, to you know, go with 619 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: somebody an independent like cinema, who may well vote with 620 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: them when it matters, as she has sometimes in their 621 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: minds Lisa. When a Curson Cinema said that she was 622 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: leaving the Democratic Party, the sort of conventional wisdom was, well, 623 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: she's about to be primaried and now she can just 624 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: sort of bypass that and keep her seat in Arizona. 625 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: That seemed to be at least part of the motivation. 626 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: Was it a smart move? Oh? I think so. I 627 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: think that she has. I think she's smarter than people 628 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: get to credit for. I think that it's interesting to 629 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: me to see, uh, Senator Mansion say what he said. 630 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: He also said on another Sunday show this weekend that he, well, 631 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: he didn't turn down the the answer as to whether 632 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: or not he would run for president, So maybe he's eyeing, 633 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, a bigger offices himself. But it's interesting to 634 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: me that he said that he would stand with her. 635 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: The two of them have obviously been very much um 636 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: the senators. They have to get to the senators, they 637 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: have to move through in order to get legislation passed UM. 638 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: And I do think that she probably saw this opportunity. 639 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced she runs again. Maybe she decides to 640 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: do something else. But I do think that overall Arizona 641 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: is a very moderate state. A candidate like a Carry 642 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: Lake or a Blake Masters does not have a path 643 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: forward in my opinion. How about that? Lisa Como, Sa 644 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: Miller and Jennie Schanzano with us on Bloomberg Sound On. 645 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew in Washington. Some final thoughts as Donald 646 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: Trump ahead turns a funeral into a Trump rally. I'm 647 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg. H this is Bloomberg, So 648 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: No with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Bloomberg Sound On 649 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Innovation Refunds. This is your 650 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: daily reminder from Innovation Refunds. There's more pandemic relief available 651 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: to claim for small and medium sized businesses. 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Her actual name was Anita Lynnette 661 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: Hardaway Diamond, and the service was held in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Uh. 662 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: This is probably not like a funeral any of us 663 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: have been to. Of course, it's not often that a 664 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: former president uh makes sepperance. But from end to end 665 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: this thing was remarkable, ended up lasting hours, apparently not 666 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 1: what the former president expected or was told, and basically 667 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 1: boiled over into a Trump rally. Even Silk decided to 668 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: go after the news media. This again of the Diamond 669 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: and Silk duo. Here she is when she was a live. 670 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: Majority of the media media head Diamond is Silk because 671 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 1: we refused to go along with their narrative. We refused 672 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: to tell half truths, We refused the light to the public. 673 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: Now that she's dead, you want me to come out 674 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: to your network and talk about my sister. A lot 675 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: of the media did everything they could to try and 676 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: destroy her. Why she was living, and I'd be damned 677 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: if you think I'm going to allow you to explore 678 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: her death for writings Uh. So this is again, this 679 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: is at a funeral. I'm guessing some networks did reach 680 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: out to interview about the fact that Diamonds had passed. 681 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: Pastor Mark Burns though lit the place on fire as 682 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: this really became more over the hours that were spent 683 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: more about Donald Trump. Here he is, She's looking down Jesus. 684 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: She's saying, Jesus, please Trump. That's the way that take 685 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 1: it all the way to the boss. Uh. Now at 686 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: this point we're you know, we're yelling Donald Trump the 687 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: expressions on his face. As this is going on, he 688 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: finally gets up to do you know, to to eulogize 689 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: his friend Diamond. He said as well, by the way, 690 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: he never knew silk. Uh and uh. He acknowledges on 691 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: the microphone openly to the church that this thing is 692 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: way longer than he was told. I don't believe you 693 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: know they told me. So give me a little time 694 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: because I have a lot of people waiting for me 695 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: back in a place called Palm Beach, Larida, Palm Beach, 696 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: is it give me a little time? What do you 697 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: think he'll take? Ohbou fift twenty minutes in and out? 698 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: I said, what could take longer. This a little longer 699 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: than fifteen minutes, right, uh, Jeanie Schanzano, Lisa Camoosa Miller. 700 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: They can't wait for me to ask them about this. 701 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: This was a production, Genie. There are not a lot 702 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: of people who could hijack a funeral like that. You know. 703 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 1: I have to say this one of the few times 704 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: I understand where Donald Trump is coming from. I too 705 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: did not know Silk, But then again, I didn't agree 706 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: to speak at our best friend's funeral and memorial service 707 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: and then go on to complain about open border inflation, 708 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: gas prices and the time. And yet there there you go, Joe. 709 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: I did listen to this, and it was mind boggling 710 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: from that from the first time until you just replayed 711 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: part of it. How's the campaign to re elect Donald 712 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: Trump going? Lisa's that the kind of event you'd put together. 713 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: My sincerest condolences to the family of the lost. That's 714 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: a great answer, by the way, thank you. I don't 715 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: know what this is and I think no Christening, no 716 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: bar mitsv no wedding is safe. Is here comes Donald Trump? Well? 717 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: God does he appears at those two If you see 718 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: these videos from marral Lago I mean he really this 719 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: is We're taking the show on the road. Lisa, thank you, Jeanie, 720 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,959 Speaker 1: thank you for humoring me. Is always great panel. Thanks 721 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: for being with us today on sound on the fastest 722 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: hour in politics. I'll meet you back here tomorrow live 723 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: from Washington. Stay with us. This is Bloomberg.