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Speaker 1: My brother abandoned his ex wife, so I'm marrying her.

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Speaker 2: It's good you love her. Let her go to your brother.

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Speaker 1: Oh my, so, I twenty eight male, have been dating

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Speaker 1: my brother's ex wife, thirty female for the past three years.

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Speaker 1: We're in deep come back that un like his brother,

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Speaker 1: oh man, My brother married his ex wife eight years

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Speaker 1: ago after she got pregnant. He didn't want the child

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Speaker 1: and said that she had to terminate.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from lovely picture from the

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Speaker 1: Arsta Shoky story. I'm supper who. So she did want

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Speaker 1: to not woo. Uh? So he just discovered her? Uh

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Speaker 1: he he just discovered her in just one year.

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Speaker 3: I discovered her growing body, just discovering, just discovered a

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Speaker 3: new bumshell. I read that wrong twice.

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Speaker 1: Is like Olympic levels discovered Wow, I am a golden Olympian.

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Speaker 1: Read just off watching Planet Earth and Discovery Discovery, Discovery

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Speaker 1: great callback that they had no so she didn't want to,

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Speaker 1: So he just divorced her in just one year and

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Speaker 1: gave up all of his rights. My then sister in

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Speaker 1: law was devastated. She was a single mother. My brother

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Speaker 1: does pay alimony and child support. Were all childhood friends

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Speaker 1: and live in the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: Awkward. Oh he loved her this whole time.

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Speaker 3: The girls next door next to your brother as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh, this is complicated. I don't know what she saw

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Speaker 1: in him that she married him so early. So my

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Speaker 1: brother is a piece of crap. He bullied me as well.

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Speaker 1: He is a golden child after all, very entitled revenge. Revenge.

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Speaker 1: So I supported my sister in law and friend throughout

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Speaker 1: her pregnancy and helped my nephew as well. He never

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Speaker 1: saw his father because the piece of crap never met him.

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Speaker 3: Ah, and they live in the same neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I got a kid down the block.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen him.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really close to my neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Under taking my morning walk, you know, he mows.

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Speaker 2: My lawn and pay him a couple of bucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I paying through paypals.

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Speaker 1: Blind man. So three years ago we started dating. We

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Speaker 1: never told any of our family members, and I moved

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Speaker 1: in with her. We avoided telling anyone as to not

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Speaker 1: create a problem. Yes, dude, this is crazy. All this

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Speaker 1: stuff is going on there in the same neighborhood. Nobody

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Speaker 1: other anything insanity.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of screen agers.

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Speaker 1: So about a week ago, my brother came at his

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Speaker 1: ex's place and he was shocked to see me there

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Speaker 1: and asked me what I was doing here, and we

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Speaker 1: had no choice but to tell him the truth.

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Speaker 3: Three years. That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: We don't know how long they've been living together, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: in a relationship, three years, I would be if that

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Speaker 1: was the If I was the brother, I would be

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Speaker 3: I'd probably be pretty upset.

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Speaker 2: If you have seen your brother at all in those

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Speaker 2: three years and.

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Speaker 3: Nothing was said. Kind of wack kind of pole? It

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Speaker 3: was that an a whole move.

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Speaker 1: Is it whack?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, even if it don't like your brother,

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Speaker 2: I just like I think it's whack. I think it's

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Speaker 2: a little whack.

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of whack.

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty whack.

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of whack. Well, poet let us

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Speaker 1: know in the YouTube episode Watchers, so he was very

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Speaker 1: mad at me and he hit me, screaming at me.

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Speaker 1: How could I do this to him? He clearly thinks

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Speaker 1: it's whack. He voted in the pole You know that

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Speaker 1: is it is whack? Conspiracy theory. Yes, he's saying his

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Speaker 1: brother is such a d bag to justify the whacknessting

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Speaker 2: He's like, my brother sucks. Swear, that's why I happened.

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Speaker 3: With the Golden Child. Everyone liked the makescept me and

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Speaker 3: his ex wife. Two wrongs don't make a right or

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Speaker 2: Oh that kind of rhymes slant rhyme. Just give it to.

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Speaker 3: Us slant rhymes john.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Uh So a bit after this fight, he came

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Speaker 1: uh he said, he came here to reconnect with his

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Speaker 1: he didn't know that I was a scumbag enough to

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Speaker 4: Kind of crazy that he was like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: one day, I'm going to reconnect with my kid.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna walk down.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the big step out of my front

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Speaker 2: I need to call her up or anything, just knock

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're all neighbors, friendly neighborhood ex wife.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have co parenting love. We have neighborly love.

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Speaker 1: Uh whack or.

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Speaker 3: Not whack your brother's ex wife.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, so my now girlfriend threatened him saying that he

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Speaker 1: He screamed at both of us, calling us lovely names,

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Speaker 1: he's like, all right, fine, I'm going and then walks

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Speaker 2: His mind.

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Speaker 3: His front yard.

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Speaker 1: They can still hear him slaming his daughter. Yeah, oh

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Speaker 1: my god. So now all my family members mom, dad, grandpa,

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Speaker 1: grandparents are saying that I shouldn't have had such a

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Speaker 1: they're ashamed of me. Not mince words. I should break

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. I don't understand why they don't.

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Speaker 2: Take into consideration he didn't want to be in his well.

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Speaker 4: The wife's perspective of just like, you need to leave

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Speaker 2: She clearly doesn't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, she doesn't have like a will of

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, she's just a woman.

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Speaker 3: She's just a damsel and distressed woman for a man

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Speaker 1: The men of my neighborhood, wink Will Rogers, oh man

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Speaker 1: Will Rogers, mister Rogers, mister mister Rogers, go to sweaters.

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Speaker 1: So I said to them that we're going to tell

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Speaker 1: have to stop. We have to stop. Sam. You have

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Speaker 3: What I think is, if you go through with this,

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Speaker 3: you will not have It doesn't seem like you're gonna

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Speaker 3: have a relationship with your family. So if you're okay

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Speaker 3: go ahead. I do think it's a little whack to

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Speaker 3: uh plan to marry your brother's ex wife without telling

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Speaker 3: Like that's a little whack. I think you should have

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Speaker 3: As soon as you started something with her, you should

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Speaker 4: But I also can't imagine that he has that close

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Speaker 5: Of them knew that he was dating her for three years,

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine the brother and the ex wife would.

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Speaker 4: Like to just point out that we're assuming they still

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Speaker 2: I think they just said they grew up together.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Yeah, in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: I think they.

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Speaker 2: That they're still all living together.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't want to point it out because it

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Speaker 1: My brother just put a child support. We are all

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Speaker 1: childhood friends and lived in the same neighborhood. So yeah, Sophia,

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Speaker 1: it seems so right.

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Speaker 2: No one's like, we gonna be judge because you're stupid.

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Speaker 1: We know I'm an idiot, we know that I'm an

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Speaker 1: entertaining idiot. All right, Yeah, it's funnier exactly. Let us

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Speaker 1: have some comedy. But basically, his brother the ahole, Sam, Sophia,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a hole behave your to not tell

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Speaker 3: I think it's a move.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a whole. Obviously he's the a whole.

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Speaker 4: You know how he ended the relationship chip and hitting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, has Josephine Oldberg peast. Uh, being whack does not

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Speaker 3: No, nice one, just being nice.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the update, our polls only eight

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Speaker 3: Only that crazy. You say it's not wacked your brother's

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Speaker 1: There is a world where it's if it's like they're

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Speaker 1: I thought, I don't think they're in this world, but

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Speaker 3: Just like you. I don't think it even has to

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Speaker 3: be like asking permission. It's just like, yo, yes.

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Speaker 2: A letter in the mailbox.

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Speaker 1: Quickly there you go.

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Speaker 2: You change your mind.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were people of substance that actually stuck

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Speaker 2: I thought you were friends and countrymen of science, logic, reason.

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Speaker 3: People, but yet you're just a doc age wiggin.

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Speaker 1: It always makes me feel like I'm swaying an election,

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Speaker 1: and it makes me feel so good. Basically, swing state

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Speaker 1: of powl, swing state exactly. Come on, guys, there's an update.

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Speaker 1: Buckle your seat belts. First of all, thanks to the

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Speaker 1: majority of people for their support and kind opinions. There

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Speaker 1: are also some who threatened me, saying that if for them,

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Speaker 1: I'd be two feet under, or there are some people

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Speaker 1: that I shouldn't mess with all right, or that I

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Speaker 3: Wait, two feet under.

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Speaker 1: I know, right, Like, I just want you to have

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Speaker 3: That's how much I hate at.

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Speaker 1: Least regulation burial.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god, one arm away from zombieing her

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Speaker 4: Thing episode in Monk when he gets buried alive and

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Speaker 4: he's only like two feet deep so that you're able

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Speaker 1: Easy.

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Speaker 3: Come you always dig deep, graves.

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Speaker 2: Deep to bury someone alive, dig a standard.

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Speaker 2: For an update.

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Speaker 1: Tell us comment curious that we don't care about vengeance

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Speaker 3: Clear that the hospital that is nuclear no contact. It's

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Speaker 2: So do we didn't even talk to you? If I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, blood doesn't matter. Uh, Stigley says, because family. It's

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Speaker 2: Don't you can't. I don't think you can legally show

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Speaker 3: It's true. There's a hot dude. It's very Hi.

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Speaker 2: What about this hot story?

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Speaker 1: What about this hot story? We're about to finish it.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you can join us live on YouTube

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Speaker 1: every weekday through PMPSD.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, oh wow, we're really close to the end.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah wow.

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Speaker 1: We have one relevant comment left coming from individual soft

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Speaker 1: in ninety three, seventy three, who says cutting my family

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Speaker 1: If someone ever tries to hit you with blood is

445
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Speaker 1: thinger than water, crap, remind them that. The full saying

446
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Speaker 1: is this is all the time. The blood of the

447
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: Covenant is thicker than the water of the.

448
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 2: Literally say that all the time.

449
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Speaker 3: You say, the blood of the Covenant is thicker than

450
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Speaker 3: the water.

451
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: It's great.

452
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,639
Speaker 3: Every time I've never heard you say that.

453
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: I've said it all the time, said.

454
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Speaker 1: It multiple times, and it goes every time. It goes

455
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: every time, chosen family over blood every time. Edit care

456
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Speaker 1: I am responding like this in the post and uh

457
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Speaker 1: not on the sumbur nets. WHOA, that is the end

458
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Speaker 1: of the story. That's it. Wow, it's all we got.

459
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Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's kind of a happy ending.

460
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Speaker 3: It seems like cut off the family and they're going

461
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Speaker 3: to get married.

462
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Speaker 1: It seems like it seems like he's going to be

463
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Speaker 1: a ten x more present father of the child. He

464
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Speaker 1: wants it that the mother of the child is like, yes,

465
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Speaker 1: I want you as a father. They'll have their own

466
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Speaker 1: insulated little bubble. They're moving away physically, it's like we

467
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Speaker 1: got it.

468
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Speaker 3: I think OP did most. The only thing I would

469
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: change is just telling the brother more. Uh, keep telling

470
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 3: the brother sooner that he was planning on seeing the

471
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: ex wife because it was got to come out anyway,

472
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: so might as well do it early.

473
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Speaker 1: I feel like as soon as you hit that like

474
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Speaker 1: boy from girl thing.

475
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: But but uh, uh to turn it back on myself,

476
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Speaker 3: I think, uh, maybe if he said it too early,

477
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: it would have like upset. Like it's like a nascent relationship,

478
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 3: so it could have like the brother's anger could have

479
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 3: destroyed the beginnings of the relationship.

480
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: Plus you could go back and argue, if you dig

481
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: deep in the text, like were they essentially no contact

482
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: to begin with? Because if maybe maybe maybe they weren't

483
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: explicitly Now they're explicitly no contact, but one could argue

484
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: if they were no contact before, well, it's like, well,

485
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Speaker 1: by the by the bylaws of no contact, you don't

486
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Speaker 1: contact him to tell him about the relationship.

487
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Speaker 2: Thoselaws, those theylaws.

488
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Speaker 1: I want to have a whole podcast for say Sam

489
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: debates his own points. Can we do that? Because that

490
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: would really be incredible time.

491
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Speaker 4: He'll be talking to me and he'll be like, He'll

492
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: be arguing something and he's like, actually, do I believe that?

493
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 2: And then I'll start arguing the opposite side. He's like, no, no, no,

494
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: actually I believe that.

495
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: I do. I do.

496
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: I do. I promise if you do that all the time.

497
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: Guys like like this video if you want to see

498
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: the Sam solo argument episode where he has to argue

499
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: both sides and sit in all that is what my

500
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Speaker 1: head is.

501
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 3: My head is arguing both sides simultaneously.

502
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Speaker 4: I want an edited version where it's just Sam switching,

503
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 4: but it looks like he's just talking to himself.

504
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: In all the different edit he's talking Joe Rogan talks

505
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Speaker 3: to himself.

506
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Speaker 1: I love that.

507
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: Concerning this is an episode from Deep within the Archives

508
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: time for okop Relam.

509
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Speaker 1: My biracial sister called my white parents racist, so I

510
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: may have to kick her out of the family.

511
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Speaker 3: I want to know what the parents said. I want

512
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 3: to get to the bottom of that.

513
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Speaker 1: This this is a situation to delve into kicking out.

514
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Speaker 3: Of the family. I'm not sure. I don't know. I

515
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: don't think that I don't know if that makes sense. Yeah,

516
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: I don't get it. I don't get it. Well, Sam,

517
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 3: there's only one way to find out, all right, Please

518
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 3: indulge me, Johnny, I will.

519
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: So my adopted sister resents my infertile parents because she

520
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: decided she hates the concept of adoption. Wow, what an

521
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: open What an opener? So I disinvited her from my

522
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Speaker 1: wedding and tried to reconcile, but it got even worse.

523
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Speaker 2: Fuck.

524
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Speaker 3: Wait, so are they both adopted?

525
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: We'll have to find out.

526
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: Wait, because they're the parents are infertile, right, they were infertile.

527
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: So okay, it's to be revealed. Let's give ahead, Young Samuel.

528
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: So I am the youngest of two children. My parents

529
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: always wanted a big family, but they had a string

530
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Speaker 3: of miscarriages, so they turned to adoption. They had a

531
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Speaker 3: baby girl through a closed adoption. Seven months later they

532
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Speaker 3: adopted my sister. Then seven months after they adopted my sister,

533
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Speaker 3: they conceived me. Oo after that, you know, five, finally

534
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: it happened for them. I wonder if uh Ope's sister

535
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 3: feels like like second fiddle.

536
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, that is astute assumption to make.

537
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 3: I think potentially, potentially, I'll say we'll s s.

538
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: My parents said that I was their miracle baby. For context,

539
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: my parents and I are white. My sister is Hispanic

540
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: and black. Growing up, my sister and I were best friends.

541
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: We did everything together and people said we acted like twins.

542
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: We stayed best friends into adulthood until she found her

543
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: biological family. So she ends up getting reconnected with her

544
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: original biological family in adulthood.

545
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: I like, who is her biological family, Let's meet him,

546
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 3: Let's meet.

547
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: Him the parents. At first, I was happy for her.

548
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: My sister always said that she felt like something was missing,

549
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Speaker 1: and finding her family seemed to be the missing piece.

550
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Speaker 3: I could understand that. That makes sense, you know, like

551
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: I was adopted.

552
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Speaker 1: I want to know who.

553
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: Maybe old, you know, like my actual.

554
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Speaker 1: Especially if there wasn't any like bad blood or like negative,

555
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: like if it was purely like it's just not something

556
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: they could reasonably handle at the time, and they had

557
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Speaker 1: someone that could give them a much better life. It's like,

558
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: that's there's no like it will there. I would want

559
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Speaker 1: to know for sure.

560
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,640
Speaker 3: But then she.

561
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: Started to treat my parents differently. She would constantly berate

562
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Speaker 1: them for choosing to adopt, because she said adoption, especially

563
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: transracial adoption, was wrong. She said that the experience was

564
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: traumatizing to her and that she wasn't properly prepared for

565
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: being a person of color due to their color blindness.

566
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Speaker 1: I stayed out of it because her relationship with my

567
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: parents wasn't my business. But when she made my mom

568
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: cry after a particularly cruel remark, I started distancing myself

569
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Speaker 1: from her.

570
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Speaker 3: Wait, so, but aren't the parents doing like a good

571
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: thing by Like, there's there's been some very problematic adoption

572
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: habits throughout history where people like went to Vietnam and

573
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: stole babies from people and like like that right.

574
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very married of other things.

575
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, But like I feel like, you know, if

576
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: there's a family that can't take care of their kid

577
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: or doesn't want to take care of their kid, and

578
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: they give it up for adoption, like that's that you

579
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: know that obviously that that's really hard decision to make.

580
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: But I don't think you could fault the at least,

581
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know the whole story yet, but

582
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: within what I know, just like general adoption practices, like

583
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: I can't imagine why you would be mad at the

584
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: white parents.

585
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Speaker 1: I think at this point in the story, the sister

586
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: is like I grew up my whole life in a

587
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: white family that doesn't understand my experience being Hispanic, being black,

588
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: or being a woman of color. And I kind of

589
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: missed out on not missed out, but like had a

590
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: whole childhood of people who didn't understand, didn't understand. I

591
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: think at this point that is what op is like.

592
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: And so I would say, what what the sister would

593
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: have wanted was if she was going to be adopted,

594
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: to be adopted by the same race as her.

595
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, someone someone who could basically at least like understand

596
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: how to raise her in regards to that.

597
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I don't know

598
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: if you can fault the parents for it, like like

599
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: you know, I don't. It's like an adoption is like

600
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: a lottery, yeah, you know exactly, which.

601
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to hard to pick and choose. And then

602
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: also also one thing is like you know they they

603
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure they got proposed this baby. If they were like, oh,

604
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: we don't want this baby, that's a whole different story.

605
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. A dude, that's that's it is a very

606
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: it's like saw a situation. It's definitely, yeah, I see

607
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: both of you, like you want like you want someone

608
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: that understands, like.

609
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: What you're going to go through everything I went.

610
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: Through the world. But also like you just want someone

611
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Speaker 3: that ultimators like loves you and cares for you at

612
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Speaker 3: the end of the day. Which it seems like the

613
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Speaker 3: parents did what they had like like it seems like

614
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Speaker 3: they like she had a good childhood growing up by

615
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: the fact that like the two kids were good, you know,

616
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Speaker 3: good friends growing up. Fu O know from for you

617
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: guys that do you guys think yeah, or.

618
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: If this happened to anybody, Yeah.

619
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: Just like but like especially if it has reached out,

620
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: if it hasn't, just like let us know what you think.

621
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and there'll be there'll be more to digest too.

622
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: So that's crazy.

623
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: For context, my sister said that they should have gotten

624
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: therapy for their infertility instead of becoming baby snatchers coming in.

625
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: So we're we're laying on a little heavier now with

626
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,959
Speaker 1: the with the hammer, a little heavier with the hammer.

627
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Speaker 3: Even though yeah, that's kind of that's you know, that's

628
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: one of those things like that's that's the hard thing

629
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: to take back.

630
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Speaker 1: It is you know, it is it is, it is,

631
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: it is up. Even though we aren't friends on anymore.

632
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: My sister and I I couldn't imagining severing the relationship,

633
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: and I definitely couldn't imagine disinviting her from my wedding.

634
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: She was the one who introduced me to my fiance,

635
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: after all. So literally, the sister is the reason why

636
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: he's getting Oh that's so much more common, right, it's

637
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: a webb.

638
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I feel like this is one of the

639
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: more entangled yies.

640
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, So I told myself that she was

641
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: my sister no matter what, and I kept her in

642
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: the wedding as my maid of honor.

643
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: Wow.

644
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: So not just in the wedding, but as which makes sense.

645
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean, a sister that you consider like a twin. Yeah,

646
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: that's probably who you would pick.

647
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean, but it is like this, how's a sister

648
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: going to interact with the parents?

649
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: From from everything we've seen thus far, probably not well.

650
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: But I changed my mind. After she posted a picture

651
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: of herself with her biological siblings, she captioned it, It's

652
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: been such a relief to find my real family. I

653
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: finally feel like I'm home another.

654
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: I don't feel as Yeah, real family feels like maybe a.

655
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: Kind of more of a gut punch necessary.

656
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: We can have raised it like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

657
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: I was to rephrase that title. It would be like

658
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: I finally connected with my biological family.

659
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: I finally found something that was missing, you know, or yeah,

660
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: even that's okay, because it's like.

661
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Speaker 3: It was Yeah even I think that I finally found

662
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 3: something I was missing. I think that would have been better.

663
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm honestly not like I can feel at peace. Yeah,

664
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: you know, like it's definitely like a little bit of

665
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: a gut punch, but it doesn't feel as as that

666
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: doesn't feel as egregious as.

667
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: The baby snatching the baby. That one could be like

668
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: like that one could be like, oh, I didn't mean

669
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: it that way, and I had like a very pure

670
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: intention of that, you know. But Opie, uh feels a

671
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: little bit differently. Since I didn't trust myself to call her,

672
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: I sent a text since you don't see me as

673
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: your real sister, there's no reason for you and her

674
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: boyfriend's name to come to my wedding. Wow ah, god,

675
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: you can you'd feel the gravity of it just reading

676
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: the story. I blocked her number after that. She blowed

677
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 1: to me on everything in response, Oh wow, yeah, our

678
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: mutual friends are telling me that she's calling me a racist.

679
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: Wait what?

680
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way to come back from this.

681
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm heartbroken about losing my sister, and I'm heartbroken that

682
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I never had one in the first place. Oh man,

683
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: oh man, there is more.

684
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, just first, like, if you want to give

685
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: a just really really pit stop pit stop. I mean,

686
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: like the thing about Ope being like a racist, like

687
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: that doesn't make sense. I think it's just the sister,

688
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: you know, acting out and being like hurt. I don't

689
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: know if I would have blocked the sister.

690
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: Right if OP should have?

691
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't he should have blocked the sister because

692
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 3: it's like what if?

693
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: What if?

694
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 3: What if Op was going to say like, oh, like

695
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: I didn't even mean it like that very true, you know, yeah,

696
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: probably like a fit of rage type. Yeah, I understand

697
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: where he's coming from. Wyop did that? I think what

698
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: would have been more telling is like, hey, I just

699
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 3: saw your post. What do you mean by that? Ye,

700
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: I've always seen you as a sister, like coming it

701
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 3: from that end. And then if she then if she's

702
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: like you you're racist, right, you were never you know,

703
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: a sibling to me, anyway, then on invite for the wedding. Yeah,

704
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

705
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: But Sam, there's an't edit who we talked this morning?

706
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, this is the communication line is really open.

707
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: One of our mutual friends asked me to unblock my

708
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: sister on her behalf. I called her and we had

709
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 3: a very long conversation about everything. I apologized for blocking

710
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 3: and disinviting her without talking to her first, So that's

711
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: good to your point. She apologized for being hurtful in

712
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: the post. She's going to delete the post calling me

713
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: a racist and publicly apologize for calling me one. She

714
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: publicly called OPI a racist.

715
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: It it looks like it. It looks like it in

716
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: some posts. That's yeah, that's fat. We agreed to keep

717
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: each other blocked on social media because it would only

718
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: lead to hurt feelings otherwise. She is still coming to

719
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: my wedding, but not as the maid of honor.

720
00:35:59,200 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: Huh.

721
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: We're not back to where we were, but my sister

722
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: says that this is a good thing. Now that we

723
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: got all our feelings out in the open, we can

724
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: build a healthier and stronger relationship. Thank you for all

725
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: the dms they helped me articulate myself while also staying

726
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: sympathetic to her point of view.

727
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: Well, that's like bad, Like that's better, a big improvement.

728
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: It seems like they had a true, honest conversation.

729
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah at this point, Yeah, which doesn't happen very often

730
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: these stories. So I'm like really happy that it did.

731
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

732
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they both admitted to what they did wrong.

733
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: I don't I feel I feel good about that. I

734
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 3: feel good about that.

735
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 1: Savor those feelings, Sam, Oh, don't update.

736
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: Well, are you actually going to ruin this for me? Yeah?

737
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: The people telling me not to reconcile were right.

738
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: No.

739
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: After my last post, I got comments and dms saying

740
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: that I shouldn't have reconciled with her. I should have listened. Yesterday,

741
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: my parents offered a treat us to dinner. I couldn't

742
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: make it, but my sister decided to go. From what

743
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: my mom told me, the topic of my sister's adoption

744
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: came up. They got into a fight about it in

745
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: the middle of a crowded restaurant. It ended after my

746
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: sister said that my parents should have accepted from their miscarriages,

747
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: that that was a sign from God that they weren't

748
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: meant to be parents. Wow, I mean.

749
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: That, man, she harbors a lot of a lot of

750
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 3: a lot of you. I wonder if if any like

751
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: not not to like justify any of her behavior, but

752
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: I wonder if subconsciously she was treated worse. Yeah, like,

753
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: cause it's very hard, Like I imagine it's very hard to

754
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: It's hard enough to treat your children equally with they're

755
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 3: both yours, right.

756
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: Someone who's adopted that also has going to have a

757
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: completely different experience from your biologically born daughter.

758
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 3: I just want to know why she feels like this.

759
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems and there is still some more, but

760
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: we I think one thing this story doesn't give full

761
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: context on is that dynamic.

762
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 3: I think that's what op maybe missed out on an

763
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 3: opportunity of like, yo, yes, what was it? What's the deal?

764
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: Why do you feel like this? Yeah, let's finish it out. Well,

765
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: we'll do full breakdown for context. My parents are very religious.

766
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 3: Growing up, they told us that God got them through

767
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: the heartbreak of those miscarriages. My parents aren't perfect, but

768
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: they didn't deserve that.

769
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: Nobody does. I'm tired of making excuses for my sister.

770
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm tired of being sympathetic to her trauma when she

771
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: weaponizes it to hurt others. I'm done. I should have

772
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: been done after the baby snatching comment. She's not in

773
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: my life anymore, and I'm trying to convince my parents

774
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 1: to do the same. I sent her one final text,

775
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe you would say that to mom? What

776
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: the f is wrong with you? Don't contact me again,

777
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: Go be with your real family and leave us the

778
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: hell alone. Wow.

779
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I don't think it's Op's place to say

780
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: don't be like, you know, don't interact with her. Sure,

781
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: maybe that they're like her Opis sister doesn't think that

782
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: she's part of the family. But the like a like

783
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: a you know, like a like a kid going through

784
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 3: a goth phase or something where just like, you're not

785
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: my parents. It's like the parents are still going to

786
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: be like, no, you're our kid. We raised you as

787
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: much as it may as much as they made like

788
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: that kid may try to hurt the parent like the

789
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: usually the parents are always going to be like, that's

790
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: still my kid.

791
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. So and it seems like these parents

792
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: especially as well.

793
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't think OP should be like you

794
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 3: shouldn't have contact with her, Yeah, yeah, because that's ultimately

795
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: not up to Yeah. Yeah, but you know, I don't

796
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: think OP needs to have her in Op's life.

797
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, in her life. Yeah, I'm curious. I want to

798
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: hear from all of you. Let us know in the

799
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: comment section, who is the A whole? Who is the angel?

800
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: Give us give us your full breakdown.

801
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: But I think OP is on the more on the

802
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: angel side than the A whole side. I think like

803
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: there were some like a holy behavior and like as

804
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: sympathetic or as like angelic as they could be, but

805
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 3: definitely definitely gave the sister more breaks than I think

806
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: most would have given. Yeah, the sister feels a little

807
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: bit like the A whole parents Angels. My parents, I

808
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: feel like are I don't know, at least in this story,

809
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: it seems like they haven't really done anything wrong.

810
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: So I think, like kind of diving into the parents

811
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: and adopted daughters like dynamic, I think people like to

812
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: overcomplicate it. Let me put it as simple as this.

813
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: A father will never completely understand a daughter's perspective because

814
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: it's like there's things that you know for women that

815
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 1: men don't have to deal with. An and vice versa.

816
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: It's just a different experience, right, being a man and

817
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: being a woman. So like, take that same logic and

818
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 1: apply it to like being a white parent and raising

819
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: a Hispanic and black child, Like, you won't know, especially

820
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: if you don't come from those communities, which we can

821
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: only guess these parents did not. They you don't have

822
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: even if you have a lot of context, you don't

823
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: have all of the knowledge of being able to work

824
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: with them and prepare them for the experiences they're gonna have.

825
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Right again, just the same as like if there's a

826
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: single father, you know with a daughter, Well, the dad

827
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: won't know what it's like to have a period, you know,

828
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: same thing applies over so you know, I totally think

829
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: it's it's fair to say that there's probably lots of

830
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: things and including like what if she grew up in

831
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: a white neighborhood and never got to connect with people

832
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: that had similar ancestral roots to her, shared her culture,

833
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: the food, that you're just like everything, and then she

834
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: becomes an adult and she was like, I was missing

835
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: out on all of these things. And I could also

836
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: even see where it's it almost feels like you've been

837
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: blocked from that because you're like, hey, you didn't You

838
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: didn't put me in the situations where I could connect

839
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: with these people potentially. So I totally think there is

840
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: a myriad of things where it's like Opie's probably super frustrated,

841
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: where she didn't have the chance to be prepared for

842
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 1: these situations, to connect with with her culture, other people

843
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: in her culture, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Now,

844
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: and the parents, you know, even though they might have

845
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: had insanely good intentions, they might have simply been ignorant,

846
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: which is fine, Like they literally just don't know, you

847
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it seems from everything that

848
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: I can gather in this story, it seems that the

849
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: parents had great intentions, that they love this child and

850
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: that they probably did what they could to give her

851
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: the best childhood.

852
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: Which is any parent does regard, like even if you

853
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: have a kid that's your own, yeah, you are going

854
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 3: to be ignorant of so many things and raising that

855
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 3: child right, and so it's like, really the only thing

856
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 3: you can do is just try to love that kid

857
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: the best you can. Yeah, And it seems like these

858
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 3: parents tried their best.

859
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: To your point earlier, probably what happened was they were like, hey,

860
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: here's this baby for adoption. They were like, yes, we

861
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: want to give this baby a home, and like that's

862
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: it's kind of just like, uh, just the circumstance that

863
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: like it kind of is what it is in a way,

864
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: It's like the baby needed a home. Opie's parents wanted

865
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: to give the baby a home, but they just weren't

866
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: like the perfect match in terms of being able to

867
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: fully understand and educate them on what was going to

868
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: happen in her life. So it's like, but the parents,

869
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure tried and like did you know they put

870
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: effort into being a good parent. That's what they were

871
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: trying to do, right, So at the end of the

872
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: day to be completely and you know, maybe, like you

873
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: were saying, maybe this is a phase where like op

874
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: is literally like her eyes are like opening to everything

875
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: all at once, and she's like what what what? You

876
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So maybe it's just like she

877
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: has to kind of process all of this stuff.

878
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's get the sexually, Yeah, this is

879
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: a process.

880
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, period.

881
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 3: I think what's probably happening is op is like feeling

882
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 3: into her or sorry, OPI's sister is feeling into her identity, yes, right,

883
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: And I think when you're feeling into an identity, you

884
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: and push away the identity that you had been given. Yeah,

885
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 3: but it felt maybe it felt forced upon.

886
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: You or something because it was all that was.

887
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it didn't never quite fit the mold of

888
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: who you thought you were. And then finally you're like, oh,

889
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: there's this other thing, and then you're really trying to

890
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: just accept this new party of yourself and reject the

891
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 3: old part. And I think, uh, it's it's a pendulum, right,

892
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: Like there's a period of intense rejection and then it

893
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: will balance out and like come back. And I think

894
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: these parents probably have maybe have a little bit of

895
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 3: perspective on that and realize that, like that's kind of

896
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 3: part of parenting where there's phases your kids go through

897
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: and they'll be like I hate you mom and dad,

898
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: and then you know, there'll be times when they need you,

899
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: and then there'll be times when they understand you a

900
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: little bit more. Yeah, I think this is a little

901
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 3: bit of a phase. It's a it's a phase, but

902
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 3: I think it's a phase.

903
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: Opie's probably having the same reaction on the flip side,

904
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: of the coin where it's like Opie's like, what what

905
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: the hell I thought we were sisters edited it out

906
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: when it's like the sister is processing all of these

907
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: new things and a it's like all all stuff that

908
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: op can't fully understand, and and then then she's lashing out,

909
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: I mean very hard. So and to be clear, I

910
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: do think that, like I can't really fault the parents

911
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: too too much because like, again I do think that

912
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: they definitely tried. From all the context that we have

913
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: and again just again guessing from what we have in

914
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: the story, it seems like they at least like provided

915
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: a home, provided love, et cetera. You know, so it

916
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: would have been nice to get even more like it

917
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: would be perfect if we could hear like the parents

918
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: and the sisters perspective, that would really paint the full picture.

919
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: I feel like, I guess I feel like I need.

920
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: I really am.

921
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: Craving a little bit more from the sister. Yeah, just

922
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 3: because like I don't know, I don't know why she's feeling.

923
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: What if what if something like specifically.

924
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: What if something happened that like and maybe even the

925
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: parents didn't even realize that it was but but it

926
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: was or maybe they you know it was uh uh

927
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: uh like bad intentions.

928
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 3: Who know? We don't know, but man, we want to

929
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 3: know what you guys think. Please put it in the comments.

930
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 3: But John, I have a story about a psychic and

931
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: some sexy time with a grandma.

932
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: Take me there, Poppy,