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Speaker 1: Hello, listeners, this is George. I'm reporting to you live

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Speaker 1: from a closet in my bedroom in a fire Island house,

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Speaker 1: and I just had to get on Mike to say

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Speaker 1: that between this episode and next episode, there will be

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Speaker 1: four live shows. We're going to Philly, DC, Boston, and

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Speaker 1: Toronto and they are literally all about to sell out.

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Speaker 1: I am seeing two more tickets in Philly, twelve more

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Speaker 1: tickets in Boston. I don't have the other numbers in

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Speaker 1: front of me, but I promise they are dire and

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Speaker 1: we would love to see all of you there. We

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Speaker 1: would love to sell these shows out. We've been having

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Speaker 1: such a good time on tour and we can't wait

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Speaker 1: to see you. So if you want to buy tickets,

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Speaker 1: please go to linktree dot com, slash straight Up Lab

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Speaker 1: and again. In the next week, we're going to Philly, DC, Boston,

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Speaker 1: and Toronto. See you soon and enjoy the episode.

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Speaker 2: Podcast starts now. What is up everyone around the globe?

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Stradio Lab and I am readjusting

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, how's it going over there, Chica?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's amazing to be back in Los Angeles, California.

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Speaker 1: I want to say Something amazing about this month is

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Speaker 1: that we are on tour and constantly traveling to cities

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Speaker 1: together and then going to separate cities to record our podcast.

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Speaker 1: So we are constantly quite literally constantly in planes, trains,

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Speaker 1: venues together, and then we say, okay, time to do

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Speaker 1: the thing where we have a conversation. Let's make it

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Speaker 1: as inconvenient for everyone as possible by going to opposite

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Speaker 1: coasts and having a sort of kind of tangled web

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Speaker 1: then also ignoring a guest that is sitting next to

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Speaker 2: It's been very, very complex, of course, to be doing this,

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Speaker 2: and you know, speaking of what an amazing point, George,

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Speaker 2: please come see us on tour where we will be

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Speaker 2: in the same room actually, which is so groundbreaking.

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Speaker 1: The same room and often on the same stage, but

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Speaker 1: not the whole time, because I have to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: This is the first time we've ever done a stand

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Speaker 1: so now when we're going live, we're not even doing

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Speaker 1: a slide show. It's we're going back to basics. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm in it. I have never fetishized stand up more

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Speaker 2: I'm glad. I mean, I have to be honest to

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Speaker 2: the listeners. And you said, should we do a side show?

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Speaker 2: And I said, I really think we need to set

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Speaker 2: as raw and real as possible. If we give them

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Speaker 1: Really looked down upon, Like if you were like if

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Speaker 2: I think the edgy thing now is to have your

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Speaker 1: Well, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: I think it's edgy to be like, God, it's just

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Speaker 1: Well, I do want to bring in our guests? Okay,

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Speaker 2: So we had an amazing incident where as many people know,

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Speaker 2: we are a trusted news source. To some we actually

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Speaker 1: Yes, we said the show started eight, and in fact

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Speaker 1: it started at seven fifteen. And so what happened was

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Speaker 1: which not to victim blame is an insane thing to do.

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Speaker 1: But of course obviously we take full accountability while also

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Speaker 2: Guys, come on, yeah, it's like, I'm sorry that you're weird. Like,

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Speaker 1: The way that you made your plans on your calendar

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Speaker 1: what time the shows? And again I take full accountability,

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Speaker 1: and it was literally my and I specifically, it's not Sam.

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Speaker 2: Eight pm is a placeholder for time. It's showtime time

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Speaker 1: So just to repeat, we do take full accountability.

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Speaker 1: I do think we need to bring in our guest.

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Speaker 2: I think that's an amazing idea.

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Speaker 1: Now our guest. You know, this is sort of an

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Speaker 1: back in studio in the most amazing sort of try

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me here. It's such

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Speaker 3: a pleasure to return to be in person of the

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Speaker 3: George and to gaze upon you Sam on an iPad.

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Speaker 3: We're watching like your dead, and you've left us a

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Speaker 2: There's even something about my outfit today. It's giving like

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to look clean for the video, but not

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Speaker 1: Are you wearing a would you call that a butter

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Speaker 3: Really you don't think color should also be foods.

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Speaker 2: I don't think color should be foods. First of all,

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Speaker 1: Okay? So, Josh, I want to say something, which is

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Speaker 3: If I had known that it would have been a conflict,

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Speaker 3: I would have told her now like Gail, sorry, we can't.

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Speaker 1: Talk her going to space sponsored by Amazon.

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Speaker 1: I think if it had just been Gail, it would

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Speaker 3: I think Katie Perry singing really kept it was. She's

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Speaker 1: Yes, and she also brought a daisy with her favorite

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she just held it up out the window.

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Speaker 2: Literally.

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Speaker 3: Yes, anybody from another planet wants to come see me

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Speaker 1: She's like, I need the ticket sales are not good, y'all,

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Speaker 1: Like I need if any Martians or Aliens are out there,

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Speaker 1: I will be at an Arizona on August fifteenth.

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Speaker 2: Josh, why were you being interviewed by Gail?

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Speaker 3: They brought me on to talk about the special, which

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Speaker 1: I did. Unfortunately, early on in my comedy career have

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we were trying to gamify it in a

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Speaker 2: Totally totally. I find it complicated because you do need

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Speaker 1: I think my parents phrases though. No, yeah, doggie to

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Speaker 1: I just think it's, first of all, it de eroticizes

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Speaker 3: live style. Yeah, right, exactly, you're herding cattle here, and.

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Speaker 1: Then it's like I'm a horse.

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Speaker 1: But don't you think that's to use your term sex

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Speaker 3: I've heard from them about it. It is they talked

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Speaker 2: I mean, it could be sex nerd. The thing with

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Speaker 3: I also think sex nerds everything is play. To a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, And they'd say it. They'd say the silly

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Speaker 2: and like that's where it gets gross. That's where it

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's such a funny diagnosis of the clinical voice

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Speaker 1: Well, god, no, it's absolutely Well. It's literally like Google

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm sorry to be gross. Can I be

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Speaker 2: we're gay guys. We're talking and he's like, oh, oh,

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Speaker 2: I do as I go into these spaces and I

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Speaker 2: to an extent, Like I sort of like why limit yourself?

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Speaker 2: Like why not just dream? Like go into a space

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Speaker 2: I know I have an improviser's sensibility with a lot

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Speaker 1: And this is literally a symptom of like grinder culture.

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Speaker 1: It is a symptom of like what do Here's what

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Speaker 1: I'm offering, here's what you can offer, Let's make it work.

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Speaker 1: Like none of the you know, in old fashioned cruising,

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Speaker 3: And it feels like there are people who are interested

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Speaker 2: That's it's almost like he was like, hey, do you fuck?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Are you interested in sexual intercourse? I guess I think

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Speaker 1: Here, right. It's also it also so then almost like

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Speaker 1: So it'll be like I'm actually into first making out,

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Speaker 2: Are you right?

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Speaker 3: You they've gone so far around with like codifying sex. Yea,

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Speaker 1: First base, right, literally, maybe we could start with cuddling.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I was planning on doing that.

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Speaker 2: Do you have people to just go zero to eighty men?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well well yes to answer, well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, no they do, they're doing it.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. Well, that was weird. I'm glad we talked

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like the intimacy coordinatorification of.

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Speaker 2: All whoa, whoa, that's so good. That's really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and of course it's a slippery slope. I

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Speaker 3: Be more like the cast of Anora on the side.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, yes, I yeah. It's also it like makes

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Speaker 2: like where's your degree? Like there was something like I

440
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Speaker 2: hate it whatever, like a merit bagification.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly wow.

442
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: And it also cuts off future possibilities, right if it's

443
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Speaker 1: identity based, it's like, actually, anything could happen. You don't

444
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Speaker 1: know what I'm going to be like in five years.

445
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: Could I could be happily married to a woman with

446
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Speaker 1: three kids?

447
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Speaker 2: In five years I would be interested in participating in

448
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Speaker 2: put Bear play with you.

449
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to be married to a woman three kids.

450
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Speaker 1: But I'm also gonna be like I actually identify as

451
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Speaker 1: a cockshucker.

452
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Speaker 2: Let's get it on the calendar. Calendar. Huh huh. I'm

453
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Speaker 2: really having trouble transitioning out of this line of thinking.

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Speaker 1: Your first segment, that's such a good idea, Josh. As

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Speaker 1: you know, our first segment is called straight Shooters, and

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Speaker 1: in this segment, we gauge your familiarity with in complicity

457
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Speaker 1: and straight culture by asking you a series of rapid

458
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: fire questions where you have to choose one thing or

459
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Speaker 1: another thing. And the one rule is you can't ask

460
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Speaker 1: any follow up questions about how the game works.

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Speaker 3: I would never ask a question as a straight man.

462
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Speaker 2: I would never ask.

463
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's sometimes even worse if you do it as

464
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Speaker 1: a lesbian. Okay, let's see Josh peanut butter and jelly

465
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Speaker 1: or being utterly smelly.

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Speaker 3: Wait, am I I.

467
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 2: Whoa taint?

468
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: No butter and jelly?

469
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Josh, Betty Davis eyes or shiny Gammi eyes.

470
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Speaker 1: Betty Davis eyes, Okay, Carrie, Carrie Bradshop or Harry Back Sure.

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Speaker 2: Carry Bradshop for sure. I've never been more confident of

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Speaker 2: anything in my life. Okay, progressive politics or ingested olive

473
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Speaker 2: pits ingested all of pits.

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Speaker 1: Shopping at a restoration hardware or watching an adaptation of

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Speaker 1: Jane Air. Oh oh it's a draw, Yeah for sure.

476
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Speaker 2: Okay, cross your t's and dot your eyes or std

477
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Speaker 2: slash STIs.

478
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Speaker 1: I'm crossing in dotton, breaking your wordle streak or shaking

479
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Speaker 1: because you're meek?

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Speaker 3: Oh breaking wordles streak?

481
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Speaker 2: Okay? The bling ring or the sting sing.

482
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: Sting sing, I guess I guess sting sing?

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Speaker 1: Oh like the artists sting the artist. Okay, I was

484
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Speaker 1: a picture of your capitol last.

485
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Speaker 2: Night I was.

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Speaker 1: I was like, is this a phrase I haven't heard of? Also,

487
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Speaker 1: the sting sing is such a fascinating way to phrase that.

488
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Speaker 1: It's playing with parts of speech in a really interesting way.

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Speaker 1: It's like, it's not the sting song or sing Sing's

490
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Speaker 1: the sting sing sing?

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Speaker 2: Okay, which pect sense to me?

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Speaker 3: That's the movie where Sting Uh It's it was shot

493
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Speaker 3: in a prison, correct Common Domingo plays Sting.

494
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Speaker 1: Colemon Domingo plays Sting and the rest of the actors

495
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Speaker 1: are actually all former inmates, and it's about Sting's relationship

496
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Speaker 1: with Trudy.

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Speaker 2: And I think not only is it good, it's important

498
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Speaker 2: and the security guards are played by the other members

499
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Speaker 2: of the police.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's actually a shame it wasn't nominated Frostcars.

501
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Speaker 1: And it actually really points to a dark future for film,

502
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Speaker 1: cinema and politics, speaking of which a man made disaster

503
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Speaker 1: or a film by ari astor ariastor period period. Sam,

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Speaker 1: do you have one more?

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Speaker 2: No, that's all of mine. Did I do five by accident?

506
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: I think you did five by accident. Sorry, don't apologize.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna be honest. It's because we had that.

508
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Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. We had written more for the next episode.

509
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: I just kept going. So anyway, Josh, we rank each

510
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Speaker 1: guest performance on a scale of zero to one thousand doves.

511
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Speaker 1: It is named after the Lady Gaga song one thousand Doves,

512
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: which is not a big hit. It just on one

513
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Speaker 1: of our albums.

514
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Speaker 2: But people have yelled at us for calling it a

515
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Speaker 2: B side. I must say, oh, is that true? Yeah,

516
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Speaker 2: someone was in our comments saying stop saying one thousand

517
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Speaker 2: dosar is a B side. It's an album track. It's

518
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Speaker 2: not a B side.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry. First of all, calling something a B

520
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Speaker 1: side doesn't mean it's literally a B side. This is

521
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Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies. It means it's like not a

522
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Speaker 1: single and it's sort of like a secondary track.

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Speaker 3: Which I agree, is this is not a motown?

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Speaker 1: Yes on a forty five, right exactly, Like, no, I

525
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Speaker 1: know it's not literally a B side.

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Speaker 2: No, I agree. It felt crazy.

527
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Speaker 3: So they're like they're saying, like the sanctity of B

528
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Speaker 3: side versus deep cut is like very right, exactly.

529
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Speaker 1: I guess it is a deep I guess it is

530
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Speaker 1: a deep cut. We can call it, we can call

531
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Speaker 1: it a B side. I'm actually not going to be

532
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Speaker 1: bullied insion.

533
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Speaker 3: I don't think you should know yourself people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so go ahead, Sam Well.

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Speaker 2: And then I was gonna say, and I think we

536
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Speaker 2: should call somethings EPs they're too short.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I do agree with that.

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Speaker 4: Ye.

539
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Speaker 2: Sometimes if it's too short, you can't count it as

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Speaker 2: an LP, right, even if they define it as like

541
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Speaker 2: their album. I'm like, that's really yeah.

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Speaker 1: So would you call it the Pink Panthers album and EP?

543
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I would. It's it's a great EP, of course,

544
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Speaker 2: come on, it's what twenty two minutes?

545
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Speaker 1: Come on?

546
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are we doing here? Yeah?

547
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Speaker 1: This is a British song stress that we like and

548
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Speaker 1: do you know are you aware of her?

549
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, wow, that was actually very sort of like

551
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Speaker 1: heterophobic what I just did, like immediately started Yeah, I

552
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm like, oh, sweetie, like I can explain.

553
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Speaker 2: So what would what score would you give? Josh? Well,

554
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Speaker 2: the questions were honestly offensive, considering.

555
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Speaker 1: Well there was only one question.

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Speaker 2: One questions all it takes.

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Speaker 1: That's true dually, But said that, do you know her

558
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Speaker 1: the podcaster?

559
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Speaker 2: Yes?

560
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and letter writer and investigative journalist.

561
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Speaker 2: She has a book club. Yeah yeah, she has the

562
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Speaker 2: book club. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So I think, you know,

563
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Speaker 2: asking a question was downright offensive, and but I do

564
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Speaker 2: think you had such a joy while playing doing the segment.

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Speaker 3: There was such a sense of play that this was

566
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Speaker 3: in my calendar.

567
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Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah. Literally, I'm going to go ahead and

568
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Speaker 2: say eight hundred and twenty dubs.

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Speaker 1: And I have to agree I would say something interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know when you did ask a question, Yeah, and

571
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Speaker 1: I tried to cut you off, you actually kept asking

572
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Speaker 1: the question in a way that I found very interest

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Speaker 1: I because you know the I think you could tell

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Speaker 1: that the bit is like we yell at your question.

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Speaker 2: But you really kept go.

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Speaker 1: You're like, no, I have a question, and it's rare

577
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Speaker 1: that I it's rare that you're sort of like, you know,

578
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, toxic mexiculinity comes out.

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Speaker 1: You're famously, you know, a nice guy. That's what the

580
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: trades tell me constantly every single day. And so it

581
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: was fascinating how you were like, this is where I

582
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Speaker 1: draw the line. I need to know the rules.

583
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Speaker 3: Well, I get very disoriented. You don't know the rules,

584
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: and I was just like, you know what, I think.

585
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Speaker 3: I just am going with my heart.

586
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Speaker 1: It also is like speaking of you know, comedy rules

587
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Speaker 1: and purists stand up and whatever. I think the way

588
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: people react to the game is a signifier of like

589
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: their approach to comedy. And I am like you where

590
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Speaker 1: I need to know the rules and I'm like great,

591
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Speaker 1: So the way the good comedy works, you work within

592
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Speaker 1: certain rules and you push just far enough that something

593
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Speaker 1: is surprising.

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Speaker 3: Right, but it's not like to me and this gay

595
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Speaker 3: I when I realized what was happening, I was like, oh, okay,

596
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 3: those are the rules exactly, and it was like, yeah,

597
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: but I do When someone is like, oh, it could

598
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 3: be anything, I'm like well, it's gonna be the one

599
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Speaker 3: thing I came planning to do that.

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Speaker 2: Josh is the nice guy thing ever gets suffocating for you?

601
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: Are you real like I'm bad too? My wife put

602
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Speaker 2: that in her wedding.

603
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 3: Vats really is also not nice, And that's the funnest

604
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Speaker 3: when he just is like an asshole the people, and

605
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I guess I do, but it is

606
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Speaker 3: I think it's nice to have any reputation at all.

607
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: That's an interesting point, and it's a sort it's a

609
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: branding exercise for you. You're saying, it's.

610
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Speaker 3: Nice that people seem to get what I'm about generally,

611
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: even if hens the nuance.

612
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Speaker 2: Do you worry about sort of the Ellen effect, the

613
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: Falon and the Falon effect, you know, the nicer you

614
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: are publicly, the mean or you're gonna get behind the scenes.

615
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Falon's issues that he's mean, but but.

616
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I do worry that because people, because I have a

618
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 3: certain reputation, if I'm like a little prickly, yes, it

619
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: will come off much harsher than like. There are certain

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Speaker 3: people I imagine who we all know. I'm not thinking

621
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Speaker 3: of anyone specific, but who can walk into a room

622
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Speaker 3: and be like, hey, give me that fucking coffee and

623
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Speaker 3: everyone's like, oh, thank god he didn't hit me today

624
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: or whatever.

625
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Totally, Hi, we all think you the same person.

626
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: No, I actually think that because I'm such a sh

627
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: or I spent my twenties being such a huge bitch.

628
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: People really take it.

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Speaker 1: Seriously when I like something like when I'm like I

630
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: really enjoyed this movie, yeah, people like wow, George, like

631
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: they're discerning. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm thank you for

632
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: saying that, and I think my best. Maybe I am,

633
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: but also like, I've just spent so much of my

634
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: again twenties just like being thinking that it was a

635
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: kind of intelligence to constantly hate everything. Sure, and so

636
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: people and I people started prefacing things with like you'll

637
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: probably hate this, but blah blah blah, or like, you know,

638
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: I want to see this movie. Do you like, would

639
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: you ever do that? Dane? To do that?

640
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: This is pretty stupid, But do you guys want to

641
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: get dinners this next? Yeah?

642
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: Totally totally exactly, Josh.

643
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: When was the last time you were like a huge

644
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: bitch to somebody? Oh?

645
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: Man, it comes out when I traveled too, where I'll

646
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: just like and my big problem is because I'm from Massachusetts,

647
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: I think I'm like making a big show of my feelings,

648
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: and even people close to me will be I'll go like, God,

649
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: I was so mad, I like really blew up in

650
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: the person. Like that is not how anyone perceived that.

651
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: Totally.

652
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they will think you just inhaled sharply and then

653
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: were polite.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will say there is uh, okay, I'm

655
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Speaker 1: gonna anonymize this. There is one person in comedy that

656
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: everyone hates. And one time someone told me someone was like,

657
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: even Josh doesn't like that. WHOA.

658
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: I wish I could know who it is.

659
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: So when you're thinking of okay, okay, cool anyway, so.

660
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: Josh, sorry, As one more thing, uh huh do you

661
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: ever okay? Meta? Meta? Are you ever like? Okay? Why

662
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: does everyone keep asking me about nice guy persona? Like

663
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: do you get asked that all the time? And you're

664
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: sick of this? Like in interviews pretty regularly?

665
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: And I don't, I like, I truly, I like, I

666
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 3: don't mind that people think that about me, but it

667
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: does like I do have the opposite thing of you,

668
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: where if I'm like if I make fun of something gently.

669
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: Some would be like, wow, you really hate that?

670
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I thought we could like make fun of

671
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: stuff because we're community.

672
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're having a conversation. Yeah, and I'm being charming.

673
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: That's right, I'm I'm being I'm having a good time.

674
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but thank you for asking.

675
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: I will never forget. You know what really stuck with

676
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: me Sam when we had oughts to go on and

677
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: she was like when I she was like, when I

678
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: do comedy, I talk about things I like, not things

679
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: I dislike. And I was like what. I was like,

680
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: excuse me, that is not what we're here to do.

681
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: Like I was just like, that's your guiding principle. Really

682
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: like shifted something within me. I was like, that's an

683
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: interesting challenge.

684
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, and it's harder, I think in general, Yeah,

685
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: to get over with that because it's so people are

686
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 3: so used to comedy. That's like someone's like that glass

687
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: of water that fucking sucks, and everyone's like, yeah, it does,

688
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: even if.

689
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: It's totally totally totally it also, and it pains me

690
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: to admit this because I love reading like a negative review.

691
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: I love reading a pan like I love reading like

692
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: a negative book review or something However, it simply must

693
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: be said that it is actually more difficult to write

694
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: a positive assessment sure than a negative.

695
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: And I will also say you can write a negative

696
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: review about almost anything, even if it's great, Like there

697
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: are so many great things that you can find one

698
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: little thread to like pull the whole thing apart. And

699
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: and it's so much harder to build up a positive

700
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: review and like make the case other.

701
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: Than just being like, oh, it's good exactly because actually,

702
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: like you sound kind of dumb when you like something. Yeah,

703
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: so you have to really really add to it to

704
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: actually make the positive opinion like worthwhile in any way totally.

705
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: Well, it's also hard to make something positive feel larger,

706
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: like you are kind of reaching when you're like, well,

707
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: they're commenting on our state of overly like stimulated, and

708
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: it's like, I think you just kind of liked the beat,

709
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: Like I think it like has an interesting like texture

710
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: to it. Yeah, Like it's not always like needing this

711
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: grand meaning. And I think people sound stupid when they're

712
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: trying to praise something because they're trying to make it

713
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: seem more important than it is.

714
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's also like, okay, when you're praising something

715
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: for succeeding and what it's set out to do, you

716
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: are simply restating what it's set out to do.

717
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

718
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: So, if the movie is like a commentary on our

719
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: information age, and then your review is like it succeeds

720
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: it being a commentary on our information age, Actually I

721
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: could have just watched the movie and told you that, right.

722
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: Whereas if it.

723
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: Fails and you're explaining why it failed, you in fact

724
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: are adding something to the conversation.

725
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: Right, it's explained why it succeeded, you're just like it

726
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: succeeded because it did it.

727
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

728
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, that's so true.

729
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: But also what you're saying about like picking small things

730
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: that make something sound bad, It's like I used to

731
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: think that was so badass, and I'm now like when

732
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: I read a book review and it's like intentionally choosing

733
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: lines that like look stupid, I'm like, Okay, what was

734
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: the context?

735
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I don't know. Show me a picture

736
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: of one of my balls and I'll be like, yea,

737
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: I guess I look like an idiot made one ball.

738
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: Josh, have you seen his one ball that is not

739
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: a full pay You took one ball out of context?

740
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: In the Mariner's Apartment complex.

741
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Thank Wow. Should we get into

742
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: our topic.

743
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: I do want to go back to ball at some

744
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: point because I actually think that's genius. It's like literally

745
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: a review of a person and being like, but what

746
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: about look at it's just one ball.

747
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: That long toenail. Yeah, and more than my one long total.

748
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: Right right? But you know what, some people are actually

749
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: defined by the one long toenail, which is it? And

750
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: that's actually the discernment you have to have as a critic. Okay,

751
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: It's like you, a good critic won't pick the one

752
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: ball to criticize you. They will actually pick something negative

753
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: about you that is like emblematic or your larger by

754
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: larger failure.

755
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 3: Right right, absolutely, And that's that's my back totally.

756
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I was gonna say it.

757
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: Like weirdly sweat sweaty get different amounts in different parts

758
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: of the back.

759
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: Now, that's that's criticism, which mine wouldn't be.

760
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: Well. I actually thought it was interesting that you brought

761
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: up like the one weird toenail because I was looking

762
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: at my feet recently and I was like, I'm so

763
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: glad the beauty standards are about face face you know,

764
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: body hair and not like feet. If we lead with

765
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: our feet and people were like looking at your feet,

766
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: I would be like the ugliest person on earth. Unfortunately, Yeah,

767
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: I say it to silence.

768
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I was trying to like, I was trying

769
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: to remember, like I've been in beach environments with you,

770
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: I've never I actually I do. I'm someone who would

771
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: notice like they're crazy never feet. Okay, there's standard feet.

772
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: There's standard feet. There's just like there's no like beauty

773
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 2: to them. And I think some people actually do have

774
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: some beauty in there, and mine are like, yeah, that

775
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: looks like that foot almost doesn't match my my, my

776
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: whole vibe. It's sort of like whose foot is that?

777
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Well, you know, I famously

778
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: have an insecurity about having small feet for my body.

779
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: Really, so yes, I have one more thing about just

780
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: like focusing on on a little thing because it is fun, right,

781
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: It is fun, and you do feel smart, and it

782
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: can be very funny to be like this thing that

783
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 3: you like, this one thing is stupid and everyone's.

784
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I don't know.

785
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: I still thought, like whatever is a pretty good movie.

786
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

787
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: I know it's Actually, I've been thinking about this because

788
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: this is going to be Data Bay. It's time it

789
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: comes out. But have you been keeping up with the

790
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: assessment of the Tiny Desk concert of Edward Sharp and

791
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: the Magnetic Zero Oh my god, God talking about I did.

792
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 3: I saw one tweet about it, and now it's all

793
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: like coming into focus, everyful mind, everywhere for me, Like

794
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: it's so funny for whatever you close your eyes, it's

795
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: all you see.

796
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: Yes, And I've it's everywhere for me as well.

797
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: And actually I was talking to Matthew and I was like,

798
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: oh God, is this everyhere for you? And he was like,

799
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about. And it

800
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: made me feel crazy, much like I'm feeling now that

801
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: you said you saw it once, because it's truly, for

802
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: like three days has been my entire feet.

803
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, what are people saying I heard it? I

804
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: don't like get.

805
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like I think.

806
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

807
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: So there's this clip of Edward Tarp and the Magnetic

808
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: Zeros performing the song home, you know, the one that's

809
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: like I Love Maama Arkansas, I do love Mama and

810
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: Pa that one, and it just is like obviously like

811
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: emblematic of like that era of hipstery.

812
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: You know what, I'm thinking of A second thing I

813
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: saw about it, Okay, but a second Oh it was

814
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: just about someone assessing whether like stomp clap hayyah is

815
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: an actual genre.

816
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

817
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: So it's resulted in all this like very stupid theorizing

818
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: about that era. But it's fascinating when something like that.

819
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: In fact, I actually do think this is a one

820
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: ball situation where they're like taking one thing and trying

821
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: to expand on, like all alt rock in the twenty tens.

822
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually there was some good.

823
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 3: Alt rock in the twenties where you're it's you're thinking

824
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 3: of three bands, right, Yeah, I think of Edward Char

825
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: Magnetic Zeros, You're thinking of Mumfort and thinking of the Luminears.

826
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.

827
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: And I think people are taking their anger out on

828
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: mumforted Suns and the Lumineers out on ed reichup of

829
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: the magnet Zeros.

830
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: Oh you think so, I do.

831
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: I think I think there is a bit of a

832
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: one ball situation happening. I think is where I stand

833
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: on is where I stand on this.

834
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: So you would say between those three, you would you

835
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: prefer Edward Sharp and Magnetic zeros.

836
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: I would say, because I remember this all happening and

837
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: I was like, like that first one, I was like okay, sure,

838
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: like you know, I'm not like running to buy ticks,

839
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,479
Speaker 2: but I'm like whatever, this is kind of a fun song.

840
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: And then it's like then it gets Mumford and Sons

841
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: of Fide, and I remember being like what I like

842
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: And that's when I was like, Okay, well now it's

843
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: becoming like like radio hit in a way that I'm like, well,

844
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: it wasn't supposed to be, and if it was, it

845
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: was supposed to be on accident.

846
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: So you're saying, there's the rise of Edward Sharp was

847
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: more authentic and organic.

848
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is kind of what I'm saying.

849
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: Whereas Mumford is like married to Carry Mulligan.

850
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was very on purpose and like

851
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: what is trending and what can we make a profit on.

852
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: I don't think they did themselves any favors with like

853
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: the dust bawl cosplay.

854
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: That they were all doing.

855
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: I mean that's you can play a banjo and wear

856
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: regular get totally.

857
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well they're also I do think the main guy

858
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: is his name actually Edward Sharper. Is that like a

859
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: band name doesn't matter, No.

860
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 2: One beats me.

861
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: But the name.

862
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: His real name is bright Eyes.

863
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: That's interesting. His real name is two Yards, I believe.

864
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: And I think that like he had he like literally

865
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: had a cult leader type thing going. Like I think

866
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: literally there were like followers.

867
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

868
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: And something that I find disturbing about that video is

869
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: not really the music. It's the way that like there's

870
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: sort of evil in his eyes and then the girl

871
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: who then later they broke up honestly looks like someone

872
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: in the documentary about a cult that is like looking

873
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: lovingly at the leader. Sure, and you know, maybe I'm projecting,

874
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: but that, to me is what's more sort of disturbing

875
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: about that video rather than the rather than the what's

876
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: going on?

877
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: Alex Eber is his name?

878
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh thank you to our fact checkers. Where were you

879
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: when we posted that video about the Chicago show?

880
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: Wait, I have a one ball situation?

881
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: Okay, go, I hope you know that you have now

882
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: coined a framework that we're gonna be using for years.

883
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: To Honestly, this is so flattering to me. All I

884
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: ever want is to going new phrase it.

885
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: No literally one ball criticism is like is a big idea.

886
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I'm going to for a while. What

887
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: is your one ball example?

888
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: Wait, I actually have the wrong name. Oh my god,

889
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: oh my god. The you'll know, you'll know the name

890
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: of the moment I do it. Yeah. No, the politician,

891
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: the politicians, that's it. That's one moment. That's such a

892
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: one ball situation.

893
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: Is such a one ball situation.

894
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.

895
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 3: This is God if only we could incept this idea

896
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: into Malcolm Gladwell's mind.

897
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would three books deep on this. Wow, this is.

898
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: I mean, who who is the politician that was like

899
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: in New York that was like good for the working class,

900
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: but then he had a sex scndal Elliot Spitzer. Yes, yeah,

901
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: I would say that was a literal one ball situation.

902
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: Simultaneous one ball situation on both situations. Yeah, yes, Now

903
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm desperate to think of more.

904
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: Also, half the time when I see like individual sentences

905
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 3: pulled out of a book, fifty percent of the time

906
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 3: at least, I.

907
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: Go, I don't know that seems nice.

908
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't. It's like, okay, sorry that they

909
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: used them similarly, Like that happens in literature.

910
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: Something like sometimes.

911
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: Stuff feels like the feeling of it is more important

912
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: than it, like tracking super literally, especially when you're talking

913
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 3: like poetry or like lyrical fiction. Yeah, if you're writing

914
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: a nonfiction book, that's like how some explaining how tax

915
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: deriva you know, stock derivatives work, and you're using metaphors

916
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: that are confused, like, I don't know, there's no like that.

917
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how beautiful it.

918
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Speaker 1: Is, Yeah, yeah, yeah, No for on Earth where briefly stalks.

919
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's like I am thinking of Ocean Bar where

920
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: people like pulling out like look at his stupid sentence.

921
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't, I think that's kind of nice.

922
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 4: Well.

923
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: O Shamok is a classic example where I truly have

924
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 1: fallen for the one ball theory of Ocean Loong because

925
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: I've never read his work, but I have it so

926
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: in my head as like the poster child of like

927
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: corny tender queer, you know, tweet little a little tumblry

928
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: tumblry poetry infused prose, and that's a and I who knows,

929
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: maybe if I actually went back and read On Earth

930
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: were briefly gorgeous, I would actually enjoy it in context.

931
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: Even the reviews of the New book and the Andreelling

932
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: QE for a New York magazine specifically, like was like,

933
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: I like the new book. Now here's seven thousand words

934
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: the first one, and I was like, damn, she had

935
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: that in the chamber she did, you know? And yet

936
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Andrew long Cho when she came on this podcast, was

937
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: waxing poetic about the MCU. So I would love to

938
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: have her back on and question her about which art

939
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: property she supports and which one she does.

940
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: We got to get her take on one book.

941
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I actually would love Andrea. Okay, this

942
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: is we're gonna profit off of this. Basically, it's gonna

943
00:43:52,320 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: be the worst. I need Andrea on one ball criticism now. Okay, wow, Soosh,

944
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: you brought a few topics for us today dead Actually,

945
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: I would love it if you could read the list

946
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: since since you have it on here, and then we

947
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: will talk about the one we chose.

948
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: Okay, I had so one of them you did before

949
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: the last one Game Night, which you've done before. I

950
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: came in prepared to talk about Christmas cards where someone

951
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: is holding a gun, editorial cartoons where dead celebrities meet

952
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: in heaven to pays standing desks, doing your own research

953
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 3: and separating the art from the artists, which is potentially

954
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: too juicy.

955
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: Well I think, okay, So I actually think doing your

956
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: own research and separating there from the artist are at

957
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: the perfect center of like gay and straight, because it

958
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: just depends doing your own research. On the one hand,

959
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: like if you're quean on, it's straight, but if you're

960
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: like doing stand theories about.

961
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: Totally, you know what, I hadn't lumped that in because

962
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: it is the same, you know what. The reason I

963
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: didn't lump it in is because they're actually doing their

964
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: own research exactly. This the straight version of you and

965
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 3: you're in research is being like I did no research

966
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 3: and I just waited for Joe Rogan to pretend you

967
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: did totally.

968
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like conspiratorial thinking is one of those

969
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: things that like can get anyone totally. She liked to

970
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: think we're immune to it for sure.

971
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: But Dan's oh, go go ahead, no you go.

972
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm go because the like Taylor Swift conspiracy is like

973
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: no one knows her, like no one's followed her, like

974
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: I have I have this special knowledge. And then the

975
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,959
Speaker 3: Q no on one is like we all could open

976
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: her eyes.

977
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: To this right totally it's like one of them is

978
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: BPD and one of them is schizophrenia. But I actually

979
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: don't know which is which.

980
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: But I also think separating the arm from the artist

981
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: is can go either way in a huge way because obviously,

982
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: like you know, straight people are loving Louie still and

983
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: like like go off.

984
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: Actually, like we might.

985
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: Have to take this out, but I have a bomb

986
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: to drop when you're opening for Louis.

987
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 1: When we were preparing, I like to watch and listen

988
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: to stand up, especially when I'm like in a writing phase,

989
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: because it just like inspires me to think in stand

990
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: up terms. I was actually I was listening to a

991
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: great to a Maria Bamford album I had never listened

992
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: to before. It was so good, and I was like,

993
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: and I just thought to myself, I was like, I

994
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: wonder what Louise's material post cancelation has been like because

995
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: I haven't kept up with him and I listened to

996
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: two full albums.

997
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: Wow.

998
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: Anyway, that's all I wanted to say. I will say this,

999
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: I was surprised at how not about his cancelation they were,

1000
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: and how like on the same wavelength as his old

1001
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: world Like It's it's almost like if I guess here's

1002
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. If someone were to just

1003
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: listen to album after album and have never opened a

1004
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: newspaper or know what happened, they'd be like, that's the

1005
00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: same artist, which is just a very strange. It was

1006
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: a strange thing to see when we know so many

1007
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: people that have had way less dramatic cancelations and then

1008
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: literally made their entire vibe.

1009
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: Right, that is that is just so brutal to the

1010
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 3: whole Yeah, to someone being like, look like, I know

1011
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: who's paying my.

1012
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: Bills right exactly because there was one tweet yep, it's

1013
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: it's really wild, but anyway, go ahead, So separating there

1014
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: from the artist. On the one hand, for straight people

1015
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: it's Louis As for George for me and yeah, complicating

1016
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: her theory, but yeah.

1017
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 2: Well, and then for gay people there's Nicki Minaj.

1018
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Azelia Banks, but yeah Banks.

1019
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean talk operating the one song

1020
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: that no one can stop listening to from the artist.

1021
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean that is your perspective. I

1022
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say anything. When I do listen

1023
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: with an entire album start to finish action multiple times

1024
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: a year.

1025
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: But I cannot stop listening to her no matter what.

1026
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: She barely releases music and I'm always ravenous.

1027
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: Here's what's so fascinating about his Zilia Banks. Her written

1028
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: output all over the place, like just like politics, ranged

1029
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: from right wing to left wing to completely just spreading

1030
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: misinformation to very insight occasionally very insightful comment just like everything.

1031
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: She is kind of the median voter.

1032
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, she's like the undecided voter and then her

1033
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: but her artistic output focused always well done. Like it's crazy,

1034
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: it's like two different people. It's like she she simply

1035
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: should not have been born in an era where social

1036
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: media existed. She should have been like an eccentric that

1037
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: had these crazy views in private.

1038
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: Right, right, she should have been Prince yes, exactly. I

1039
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: don't know what Prince's user, but I mean like he

1040
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: was somebody that was like doing the work and doing

1041
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: the work, and do the work.

1042
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: It's a bummer.

1043
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: And Nicki Minaj, I mean, listen, when it hits, it hits.

1044
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: Talk about tuball criticism that ye.

1045
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, she was doing two ball criticism.

1046
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 3: She was She's like, you can't take the vaccine because

1047
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: both of my cousins balls, her cousin's friend or something.

1048
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: Was it her cousin.

1049
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: I think it was her cousin, her cousin's balls and

1050
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: gorged because it was cousin because of the vaccine.

1051
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 3: So this is separated for the artists and doing your

1052
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 3: own research exactly.

1053
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: Yes, she was doing her own research. Yes, she was

1054
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: doing her own research. And that's when they separated the

1055
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: art from the art of research, the artist from the

1056
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: art of her research.

1057
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: No research, you guys are fact checker saying that it's

1058
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: actually cousin's friend, cousin's friend, cousin's friend, so.

1059
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: Barely doing her own research then more so just answering

1060
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: a phone call from her cousin. It was like I

1061
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: heard something I did my own group chat about that.

1062
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: Come to some interesting cogions. Fascinating. Okay, So then what

1063
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: we landed on this two page pays. So if you

1064
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: feel so comfortable, please tell us why you think she pays.

1065
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: A straight two pays. There are lots of ways to

1066
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 3: be to lose your hair. You can just let it go.

1067
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 3: You can comb it over, which is also pretty straight.

1068
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 3: That's kind of like nature tepayuh, and you can wear

1069
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: I want to separate specifically two pays from wigs, which

1070
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 3: can be obviously very queer. Yes, but a two pay

1071
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: always looks bad every single time. It is like the

1072
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: straight and this is an ethos that I, as a

1073
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: straight man, have the straight male ethos of fucking good

1074
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: enough and also like doing a thing. It is also

1075
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: the thing of doing a thing to impress women that

1076
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: women do not like or care about, which is an

1077
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 3: extreme strake. I think just like I'm gonna have huge

1078
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: shoulder muscles and like today want that, Like who told

1079
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: you that? And it's like another guy with big shoulder.

1080
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: Muscles I think. I think of baldness insecurity in the

1081
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: same vein as height insecurity. It's like, yes, it's uh,

1082
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: it's did you see materialists with pedro pescal Like yes,

1083
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 1: like lengthening surgery.

1084
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: It's like.

1085
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: It is like it's sort of I'm trying not to

1086
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 1: say in cell culture because that's not what I mean,

1087
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: but it's like it's this sort of like gamifying attractiveness.

1088
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: It's like look smack sing Yes, it is looks snack saying,

1089
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: and it's like you can just like a short, bald

1090
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: guy with like outrageous charisma is going to have a

1091
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: lot more like social fluidity and like just like grace

1092
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: in social situations and romantic success than like a guy

1093
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: with long legs totally and a full head of hair

1094
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: that just like has nothing going on. Yeah, And that's

1095
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: why we have to separate the art from the artist

1096
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: with Woody Allen, because he's actually very short and very

1097
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 1: bold and you know, did really well for himself.

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00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 2: He really did. I mean, I'll do a more totally. Yeah.

1099
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: I think it's also complicated because like gay men also

1100
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: obviously don't like they like value their hair a lot

1101
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: of the times, yea, And but they choose a different route,

1102
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: like I think they do more of the like hair

1103
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: loss pills or going to Turkey for like plugs. Like

1104
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: there is a an I like the medical approach versus

1105
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 2: the sort of like quick fix of a two pay approach.

1106
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: I find to be like an interesting difference.

1107
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: I know it is what you're saying, it's the good

1108
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: enough ethos.

1109
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 3: It's extremely important because you think about like the going

1110
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: to Turkey getting a surgery to keep your hairline thick

1111
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: and full and tight, and you go, yeah, that's like

1112
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: a commitment to an aesthetic, which is not.

1113
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 2: A straight guy thing.

1114
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, ah, but just putting on a two pay,

1115
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 3: like going into a place putting on the two pay,

1116
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: looking in the mirror and going like that looks bad,

1117
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: but probably no one will say anything.

1118
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: Abouts No exactly.

1119
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: It's like extreme straight culture, you know what else it is.

1120
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 1: It's like caring too much is actually kind of gay,

1121
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: like like about your appearance. So it's already, of course

1122
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: humiliating to like go looking for a to pay. I

1123
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: don't think any any straight guy is proud of going

1124
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: to pay shopping. I think they're like ashamed of it

1125
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: and like one so they're like, oh god, I don't

1126
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: want to spend too much time on this, like just

1127
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: put it there and like whatever. I just like don't

1128
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: have to think about it too much.

1129
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 3: And it's it's also like I'm I'm a pretty bald guy.

1130
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: I shave my head pretty tight and that is fine,

1131
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: and I also know many gay men that do that,

1132
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: and that's like a totally that's another totally fine way.

1133
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 3: Or like you could, like in the nineties, you could

1134
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: do the Costanza just kind of like act like it's

1135
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: not happening, and even that was fine, but like to

1136
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 3: pay is the worst option.

1137
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there was a time when George Costanza

1138
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: went on some late night show, maybe Fallin, and was like, like,

1139
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: sometimes he does wear a two pay I mean sorry,

1140
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: I know george ism does not realertainment like a pixel

1141
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 2: scenario but with characters into the Spider of but with

1142
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: George Costanza. Josh, my fantasy is that we have a

1143
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: sitcom with George Costanza, Cam from Modern Family and Dwight

1144
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: Shrew all in one house.

1145
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 3: And kind of the ready player one for socially maladjusted man.

1146
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: Oh, we're gonna have it. We're gonna have it one day.

1147
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: We are, it's gonna be So.

1148
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: We're very pro Cam from Modern Family and actually think

1149
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 1: that it's one of the best, and I'm not kidding,

1150
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: one of the best on screen gay performances. I don't

1151
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,760
Speaker 1: know if you have a watch a Modern Family, Watch

1152
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: Modern Family, it's the fat one is who we're talking about,

1153
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: so not Jesse Tyler Fergus and the husband who's played

1154
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: by a straight man who I have heard also is

1155
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: like really popular with the ladies in his free time

1156
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: when he's not being gay. But it's one of the

1157
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: most incredible on screen performances of the twenty first Century.

1158
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're addicted. But Jason Alexander wore a tupe and

1159
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: like was like, yeah, I know everyone knows it's fake,

1160
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: but like, I think it's kind of fun to do sometimes.

1161
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, that's an interesting approach. I

1162
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 2: like that approach.

1163
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like that Griffin like doing a video about

1164
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: her third face lift, which she just said I was

1165
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:03,479
Speaker 1: just watching.

1166
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like my third facelift, and I'm here

1167
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: to talk about Edward Sarpatic.

1168
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: I hate that George and I have the same Internet.

1169
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: Well, listen, I like to support Kathy. The end of sentence,

1170
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: I actually have nothing negative to say about her. Yes,

1171
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: I think that, but I think that's great. But that

1172
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: is such an exception of the rule because there it's

1173
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: today is so shame based. Like to have the self

1174
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: awareness to then make a joke about it is like

1175
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: only Jason Alexander could.

1176
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: Do that, right, and it's it either has to be

1177
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: so immaculately constructed at which point to me that crosses

1178
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: the boundary and is a wig yeah, or it has

1179
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 3: to be a bit this kind of just like slapping

1180
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: it on and just crossing your fingers.

1181
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 2: That is bad news.

1182
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would be remiss not to mention the sort

1183
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: of class element here, which is that rich celebrities are

1184
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: getting like incredibly intricate sure plugs, plugs and hair surgery.

1185
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 3: And those they were doing it before it was good exactly.

1186
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. You would see.

1187
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 3: Guys on TV and you'd be like, you think that

1188
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 3: looks better than just like keeping it tight.

1189
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a banana.

1190
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you know who was doing it before it

1191
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: was cool, Elon Musk. Elon Musk has incredible hair now, yeah,

1192
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: and there are there's fully footage of him, yes, fully bald,

1193
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: like twenty years ago yep.

1194
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 3: And then looking like middle middle distance yes, yes, yes.

1195
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 3: And I don't mean I don't mean to sound like

1196
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: a pick me bald guy, of course, but I do

1197
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 3: think it's like commit commit to a thing I don't have,

1198
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: like a like a sloppy head of hair that you're like, oh,

1199
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 3: like if it blows away to breeze, you're like ruined.

1200
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah I am. Josh. I'm curious what your

1201
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: perception of the TV industry's approach to balding is currently,

1202
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: because I think we've tried to talk about this before

1203
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 2: where there aren't balding men on TV like there used

1204
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: to be. Yes, well, I think there's a little less

1205
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: of it.

1206
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: Like I think society has moved towards the extremes of

1207
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: like more bald or more hair because it's more accessible

1208
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 3: to like look to have better hair and more in

1209
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: vogue to not just like hang on to it like

1210
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: like you're with a death grip.

1211
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I do think you're right.

1212
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of balding anymore. And it's certainly

1213
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: like it is one of them, like the it's so embarrassed,

1214
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 3: like Joe Biden used to be balder, right, Yeah, jo

1215
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Donald Trump buff have like preposterous hair

1216
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: situations and everyone's like, well, that's better than just like

1217
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 3: a balding guy, right.

1218
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah. What is it about?

1219
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: Is it? I have a theory that it's like you're

1220
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: caught in process. Yeah, in the process, because well, I

1221
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: do want to hear your theory.

1222
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: Sam, Okay. My theory is that it's their hair and

1223
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: makeup people trying to not get fired, and so they're like, Okay,

1224
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: I have to make it look like he's not balding,

1225
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: so that like I have shown my worth because I

1226
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 2: feel like if you're the hair and makeup person and

1227
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: you leave them balding even though it's natural. They'll be like,

1228
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: that's not true, I'm not balding if it's just it

1229
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: was a lighting that was on, like and so you're

1230
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 2: like trying to save your job.

1231
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so you think that it is a it's a

1232
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: purely holly it's a I like that you're going into

1233
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: more like, uh.

1234
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: It's an economic issue.

1235
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: It cannot like materialist direction, Like you're like, this isn't

1236
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: about image making. It's about people in precarious positions as

1237
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: makeup artists and hair people that are like afraid of

1238
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: losing their jobs. So they're like, well, we can't we

1239
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: can't put him out they're bald.

1240
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: And I literally think and I think it's an issue

1241
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 2: among the industry of hair and makeup people because then

1242
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 2: they'll be like, well, the hey left, Like do you

1243
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: see that Cheryl left him bald out there on national

1244
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 2: television and it's like, I'm not hiring her, Like I

1245
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: think it's it's a huge issue.

1246
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 1: You know, speaking of Cheryl. Actually, I want to say

1247
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: one of the few balding people left is Larry David.

1248
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 2: That's right.

1249
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: Here's something interesting. People say, like Oh, it's impact like

1250
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: where we you know, everyone everyone I know who's bald

1251
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: like shaves their head and it's almost like framed. Is

1252
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: this like not to call you out? It's framed? Is

1253
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: this like empowering thing? But no one dares to have

1254
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: the to have the Larry David hair.

1255
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 3: I will tell you when we recorded last probably I

1256
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 3: had I was I bet this was in the time

1257
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: where I had gone like ten weeks without a haircut,

1258
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 3: early pandemic, and I looked like I was trying to

1259
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: invent time travel, which it is, like I didn't. I

1260
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: don't fill in graceful me. It isn't bad, Like it

1261
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: just looks slovenly. Maybe there's a point that I could

1262
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 3: get it to where it would like fall better or

1263
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: like chicken up, but it I look chaotic.

1264
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: But I just think beauty standards are such that there

1265
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: isn't a way that is socially accepted, yes, to have

1266
00:59:58,440 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: like to be bald on top and not.

1267
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they're just you see those guys all the time?

1268
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, like every like Dad in a teen movie was

1269
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: that like the Larry Miller. Look you know who the

1270
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: guy who is he played the doctor? Like the ob

1271
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 3: g I n and Babes has was like a famous

1272
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 3: guy like that the I'm trying to think he was

1273
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 3: like the Brother and the Drew Carrey Show or something. Wow,

1274
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 3: but he's there's you see it every once in a while.

1275
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: But he used to be like howevery you know who

1276
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: actually is like that?

1277
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: In the Comeback the husband Lisa Kudro's husband in the company,

1278
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,479
Speaker 1: Oh sure, he's like he has a look you don't

1279
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: see anymore because it's not allowed.

1280
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 3: If they see it, they will shoot you right in

1281
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: the shiny forehead.

1282
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: Or it's like the only way it's allowed, as if

1283
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: you're playing like a pet of yeah yeah.

1284
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like a real either a creep or like

1285
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 3: a total dupists like oh I forgot to get the milk.

1286
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like exactly.

1287
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 3: That's which is when I was auditioning for commercials. That

1288
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 3: was like always the commercial I would bring me in

1289
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: for like guy who doesn't know whether he has car insurance, Like, babe,

1290
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: do we have car insurance?

1291
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: Okay? Honestly, that was a great performance.

1292
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah you booked, you do we Okay, And now we

1293
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: have to talk about the the I think we want

1294
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: to talk about the sort of gen z TikTok, yes

1295
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: version of the two pey that is, I've been I've

1296
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: seen these videos where it's like a young guy who's

1297
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: like hot and it's like where it like looks like

1298
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: it's a full head pair and he's like it's actually

1299
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: too pey and then you like they show you as

1300
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: he puts it on.

1301
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: So here's what I will say about this. In these videos,

1302
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: what you see is like you see the whole process

1303
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: and he's putting some sort of like skin Elmer's blue,

1304
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: and then like it it's like wrapping around exactly perfectly,

1305
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: and you see him showering. It's like, wow, it stays

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01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: on for like multiple days out of time, blah blah.

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Speaker 1: I quite simply think all of that is fake. Ideally,

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Speaker 1: I just like don't think. I literally don't think anyone

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Speaker 1: is actually doing that. Like it's like it's one of

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01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: those classic like fake trends. People see it on TikTok.

1311
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: Like a culture writer who's on deadline and he's written

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01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: like fifteen blogs that are all about how like gen

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01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: Z is not having sex anymore? Yeah, is like, please

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01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: give me something else to write about, And then you

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01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,959
Speaker 1: know they've been working from home, haven't left the house

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01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: in fifteen days, like you know. They they their union

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01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: has been busted fifteen times last week, and they're like, fine,

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: I'll fucking write about two.

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01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 3: Pay sure, like wow one of his other TikTok videos

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Speaker 3: to see if he ever looks like that exactly, no, no, no, no,

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01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: this has to be done in nine seconds.

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Speaker 1: Right, And then the headline is literally like gen Z

1323
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: gen Z says, two pays are back.

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01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, it's awful. No, that's a really good point.

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01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: I wish it were real. It looks so it's such

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01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 2: a satisfying thing to watch.

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01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: It's a satisfying thing to watch, but doesn't it look

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01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: like a nightmare to actually maintain?

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01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: And I that it's uncomfortable, of course, especially if you

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01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 3: don't shave it down close enough and you're sticking it

1331
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 3: too paid to like you're stumble.

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01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: That's awful.

1333
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:21,479
Speaker 3: It's I think, as praccess, I kind of look like shit.

1334
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: And I think that's important because I think we need

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01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: more equality right across gender lines. And I think if

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01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: the two there's two options, it's that women and non

1337
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 3: binary people can also start looking like shit, or it's

1338
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: that men have to look good all the time and

1339
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 3: I'm not willing to see that ground.

1340
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: Okay, but here's my rebuttal to you. Aren't you just

1341
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: perpetuating inequality by.

1342
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: Like flexing your power.

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01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm not agreeing, but you don't know, but I'm going

1344
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 1: along with your with your line. But it's like, ok,

1345
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, that that's why you're doing this.

1346
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: I just it's like, because you're saying women should still

1347
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: put an effort.

1348
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no, I'm saying if we I'm

1349
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 3: saying it's got to go one way or the other.

1350
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1351
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 2: That's it's a binary choice.

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01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: I see. It's that either men start dress start looking better,

1353
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: or or women start.

1354
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: Letting women start letting women.

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01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 3: Of course, it's okay, so as a culture, as a culture,

1356
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 3: not just like me being like sorryos you allowing women

1357
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: to look worse?

1358
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it's kind of my decision. We need beauty centers

1359
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: to be equal across you know what the equalized.

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01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: Totally yeah, you know, it's so said ground my I

1361
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: think I would support forcing men to look better better, Okay,

1362
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 1: but I don't, but not as a social justice. You

1363
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: just think they should look you know, just like aesthetically,

1364
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm like how amazing to go outside and everyone looks fat.

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01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true, and I'll you know what I mean, Yes,

1366
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 3: I agree. I think that is also a good outcome.

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01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: Like it's like the reason why I mean, it's not

1368
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: the main reason, but it's one of the reasons why,

1369
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: like airport suck because everyone looks bad.

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01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 3: I was going to ask, are you like a dress

1371
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 3: up to fly person?

1372
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm definitely not. But as I get older,

1373
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, maybe I won't look like complete shit. Yeah,

1374
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna wear gray sweatpants.

1375
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: Like I have a couple of pairs of like joggers

1376
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 3: that are made of pants regular pants material, not so

1377
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 3: my pants material. And that to me is like a

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01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 3: perfect airport outfit because it is comfortable, but it doesn't

1379
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: look like I'm like checking the mail at the end

1380
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: of a driveway.

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01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: Right exactly. There's something about looking some basic level of

1382
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: nice that actually also from within forced you to also

1383
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: act a little nicer to everyone, because you're like, Okay,

1384
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: this is a public space. It's not a private space.

1385
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 3: You're not You're not walking around like skulking, like yeah,

1386
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: nobody I knowices me here.

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01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know.

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01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: I also always do, like usually want to shower when

1389
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: I get off the plane or whatever. But I do

1390
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: want the option to be like we're just going straight

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01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: to dinner. I want the option.

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01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

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01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: And I don't like, like if I want to go

1394
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 2: for a walk upon arrival, I don't want people to

1395
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: be like, did he just get on a plane? No,

1396
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: that is a good point.

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01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 3: I do that plane air there's something in it because

1398
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 3: I every time I get off a plane, I'm like, oh,

1399
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 3: why is my body respinding, like I just ran a marathon.

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01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: I know it's because the carbon dioxide that everyone in

1401
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: that plane has been exhaling is now on your Yeah, yeah, no,

1402
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: there's actually a layer of the of of everyone else's breath.

1403
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: God, a tree would be loving.

1404
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: If only I was a tree. Oh my god. I'm

1405
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: trying to think any final thoughts on two pays.

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 3: I think I want to reiterate if it takes effort

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01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 3: and looks good, that's not what that's a way and

1408
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 3: that's beautiful, or if it's very silly, like a costume.

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01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: But I do think this kind of haphazard, like I'll

1410
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,439
Speaker 3: never make partner with this hair exactly. Yeah, I gotta

1411
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: slap something up there, and it's like it always feels

1412
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 3: the way it always looks, and you can see the

1413
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 3: seam showing. Is like when you put on a shirt

1414
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: that you know is a little too wrinkled and you go,

1415
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 3: that's probably fine, yes, and then someone one friend clock's like,

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 3: hey man, you did you sleep hunched over a.

1417
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: Chair last night?

1418
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 3: And ah, they fucking got me because they have eyes

1419
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 3: and they knew it. Yeah, And that's what every dew

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01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 3: pay looks like to me.

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01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something tragic about them. Like it's like it

1422
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 1: is the effort is so visible that you almost want

1423
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: to give the person a hug. You almost want to

1424
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: be like, you don't have to do this, right, Yeah,

1425
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: it's like, uh, I'm thinking of others. It's like it's

1426
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: honestly like when you see someone who whose eyebrows are

1427
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: so insanely painted on, we're like, well we can all

1428
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: see that.

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: Right, right.

1430
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,959
Speaker 3: Do you do you think that that looks good?

1431
01:07:59,160 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1432
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 3: And that's like what you like to look like. Or

1433
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: do you think that we won't notice that it looks bad?

1434
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well it creates this like really complex thing

1435
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: where you can't say this looks bad, because that will

1436
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 2: break them. Obviously, they will shatter. And you also like

1437
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 2: so if you notice, you can only say like, it

1438
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: looks good. So then they're not getting any realistic feedback.

1439
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: It's like when someone's taking too big of a swing

1440
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: in general and no one can say anything, and so

1441
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: something like people don't learn the lesson. They almost have

1442
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 2: to like they're on like essentially an episode of the

1443
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 2: Traders and have to like suss out if people are

1444
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 2: lying or telling the truth. So this is.

1445
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: Honestly a larger issue, and I don't know what the

1446
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: answer is, which is like how do we know if

1447
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:44,639
Speaker 1: we're doing something wrong?

1448
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: Like how do we know?

1449
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: It takes such a specific like it has to be

1450
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: truly like your mother, who cares so much about you,

1451
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: telling you like, hey, that is not right, Like your

1452
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: closest friends will let you look insane, or like I

1453
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: have had nights where I have food in my teeth

1454
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: and I realize it when I get home, and I'm like,

1455
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: I was with three friends.

1456
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 3: None of them told me yep, And you would have

1457
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 3: been receptive to that.

1458
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have been like, I have to leave.

1459
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: But it's like we surely all of us. Know people

1460
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: that do continue you know that have like one outfit

1461
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: that everyone's like, oh god, he's wearing that again, or

1462
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: like have or like wear insane, I don't know, always

1463
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: wear dirty, like socks that look dirty or something something,

1464
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: and everyone like clocks it and talks about it behind

1465
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: their back and no one will ever tell.

1466
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: Them Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's this?

1467
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: I know? I'd literally the only solution is to have

1468
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: like the voting public. So like honestly, like snap a

1469
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: photo of yourself before you leave and do a quick

1470
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 1: like it goes out to you know, people that work

1471
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: at content farms and are doing content moderation for Instagram,

1472
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: and it's like.

1473
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: The people who are like beading video backs, it's actually gonna.

1474
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: Be so refreshing for them for someone to be like

1475
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: does my chpealok?

1476
01:09:58,560 --> 01:09:58,680
Speaker 2: Good?

1477
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 1: And they're gonna be like sorry, but like you just

1478
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: got a message from Indonesia, it doesn't.

1479
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 3: I also think what you're bringing up is an important

1480
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 3: point of Like, when you're out for the night already,

1481
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 3: what good does it do for someone to be like, well,

1482
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 3: that's the worst shirt I've ever Yes, Like you've committed

1483
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: to the shirt.

1484
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: You're not gonna be like.

1485
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 3: Hold on, brot a spare. Yeah, So I do understand that.

1486
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 3: So that I think the solution is, but you gotta

1487
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 3: you've got to send out that image before you leave. Yeah,

1488
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 3: it's a trusted friend, a critical lot.

1489
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: But I but I.

1490
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: Do think it has to be like I'm literally like

1491
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: it has to be an audience like a yeah, like

1492
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: an at home audit.

1493
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 3: The person who decides whether a movie is yeah, yeah,

1494
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 3: the double a.

1495
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1496
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's tough because they do need to be like

1497
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 2: credible in some way, Like we have to know that

1498
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: their taste is similar to our taste. Okay, some people

1499
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: don't know what you're going for.

1500
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:51,560
Speaker 1: Okay, here's an idea. Think of people who have studied

1501
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 1: the arts, have studied fashion, most of them are like underemployed.

1502
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: There's no jobs in you know, magazines, media, whatever. This

1503
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 1: could be an easy way for them to make some

1504
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: money on the side. You know, these can be like

1505
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars an hour jobs and they just like clock

1506
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: in and they're like looking through a carousel and outfits

1507
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: that people are sending. So you get basically like a

1508
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: bunch of people that all went to the Fashion Institute

1509
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: of technology, and they're like in the beginning of their

1510
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: careers and a small way they can make money is

1511
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: by just like giving one sentence feedback on outfits.

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01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 3: This is an incredible idea for an app. Thank you,

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01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 3: I would I would subscribe to this app. Don't you

1514
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 3: think it could work?

1515
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1516
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: It's almost like it's like how I mean, now with AI,

1517
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 1: you don't need this. But it's like how people used

1518
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: to just like do copy like copy editing for like

1519
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: small businesses whatever.

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01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,759
Speaker 3: It's it's it should be called does this look okay?

1521
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 3: And it's like one that's fashion right to fashion people,

1522
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 3: and then one for like rashes that goes to retired doctors.

1523
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: They're still trying to it would come. I'm thinking it's

1524
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: like it's like fashion therapy, because you need someone who's

1525
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 2: like I specialize in like preppy but vintage, or like

1526
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 2: I specialize in like sort of Bushwick crazy, and then

1527
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: you'll be like, Okay, that looks sort of like my

1528
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 2: that's like a good match for me. And then they'd

1529
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:06,679
Speaker 2: like see you and be like, Okay, here's what's wrong

1530
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: with you? Or you know what they'd be they'd be like, so,

1531
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,759
Speaker 2: what made you want to wear that? Today.

1532
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it's like a combination stylist and therapist. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1533
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 1: yeah yeah style rapist.

1534
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 2: Style rapist sounds pretty bad, but I.

1535
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: Think the profession is honestly solid.

1536
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: No, I think that it makes a lot of sense.

1537
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, what are you going for with that? Guys listening? Yeah,

1538
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 2: so is this satire or Someone at our Chicago Live

1539
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 2: show asked me if my shoes were a commentary, which

1540
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: was kind.

1541
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: Of Oh, that was crazy, actually, and I want to

1542
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: really shout them out for having the confidence to do that.

1543
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: Someone said, we're now doing at our shows. We have

1544
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: started doing q and as because we believe stand up

1545
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: comedies only our firm that doesn't allow for Q and

1546
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: as much like you know, like film does for instance.

1547
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: And so someone asked Sam if his shoes were commentary

1548
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: on straight culture, which is basically like saying, like, so,

1549
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: are you like joking when you wear those?

1550
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: That's one of the worst questions that ever heard.

1551
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: Now we've done a full show where we're wearing normal out.

1552
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: This is the end of the show. This is the

1553
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: end of the show.

1554
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: I've been wearing that, but the whole time nothing else

1555
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: is commentary.

1556
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: Like it's I think I was dressed pretty normal.

1557
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: Your we were both dressed very normal.

1558
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we didn't want our outfits to speak for

1559
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: us exactly. We want to be able to focus on

1560
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 2: the words you both called your style pists.

1561
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: Before the exactly, we were like, do we look like

1562
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: sort of like mid tier gay comedians.

1563
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:38,799
Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, nothing about this seems like commentary exactly.

1564
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1565
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even be that.

1566
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 4: No.

1567
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: I could barely register it honestly as an outfit.

1568
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 2: It says nothing. It says nothing.

1569
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this guy actually was turning a look I

1570
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: will say, so it even more because it was someone

1571
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: that like, you know, you would notice on the street.

1572
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: D you would like to have had his right co

1573
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 3: sign front row.

1574
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. I was like, Oh, so the

1575
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: whole time you've been like looking at my shoes and

1576
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: being like, so, what's good? What's the story? Instead of

1577
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: like because that's the last thing I wanted was people

1578
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: to be looking at my shoes and wondering what the

1579
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 2: story is.

1580
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: No, you literally want it to be neutral looking. And

1581
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: in fact, the entire time he was like, oh god,

1582
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: you were.

1583
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: Hoping anybody who looked at your shoes and be like

1584
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 2: got it? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Receive well, I think we

1585
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: should do our final segment. I agree, Josh. Our final

1586
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: segment it's called shout outs, and in this segment we

1587
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: pay homage to the grand straight tradition of the radio

1588
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 2: shout out. So imagine you're at TRL shouting out to

1589
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 2: your squad back home about anything that you like. People

1590
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: place us things ideas. George and I will go first,

1591
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: and we always make them up on the spot. Okay, George,

1592
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: do you have one?

1593
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: Yes?

1594
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: Okay, kick us off.

1595
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: What's up? New York theater goers to give a shout

1596
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: out to Morgan Basicus's solo show Can I Be Frank?

1597
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: Now playing at Soho Playhouse. Have you seen this?

1598
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: Josh?

1599
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 1: No, It is Sam Pigleton, who directed Josh Sharp's show

1600
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: and Omary I. I've known Morgan like tangentially socially for years.

1601
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't know them super well, and I didn't know

1602
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: what to expect. I sort of didn't know how how

1603
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: like genuinely laugh out loud funny they were, and I

1604
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 1: went in expecting a sort of like solo show type

1605
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: thing where it's like, Okay, there's a couple of jokes

1606
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: in the beginning, but then we're gonna get serious. And

1607
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: I was like so happy with how much I laughed.

1608
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 1: There was such a it was so unexpected. It like

1609
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 1: managed to actually like avoid any of the tropes and

1610
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: cliches you would expect from a show like that. Nan

1611
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: Golden was in the audience. I was having the time

1612
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: my damn life. And you know, just when you think

1613
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna just when you think we've had enough solo shows,

1614
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: people keep doing them and sometime they're good. I mean,

1615
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: I will be the It pains me to admit it

1616
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 1: because you know, you want to retire that as a forum.

1617
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: But then sometimes people are actually good at it and

1618
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: you say, all right, well, I guess we can keep

1619
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: doing this for another few years. So shout out to

1620
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 1: pretty much all gay people that do solo shows.

1621
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: You're just your person is recommended. Yees me.

1622
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 1: It's like, honestly, that's a classic thing that like someone

1623
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: would be like, oh you would You're a hater, like

1624
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't want to see an earnest And thank

1625
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: god I did because it was literally so it was

1626
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: so good amazing.

1627
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, well that sounds to die for. Okay, now

1628
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: I will go what's up? Freak losers and perverts around

1629
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: the globe. I would like to give a huge shout

1630
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: out to the film The Naked Gun, the New One.

1631
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 2: I went to see it last night and I said,

1632
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm laughing, I'm having fun. You know. I sort of

1633
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 2: had the opposite feeling of George where I went in

1634
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,760
Speaker 2: being like, this is probably going to be chalk full

1635
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 2: of jokes and funny. And guess what, my expectations were

1636
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 2: completely correct. It was chalk full of jokes and funny.

1637
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: I will say I do find the conversation around like,

1638
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 2: you know, we need to support this film as comedy

1639
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: needs to come back to theaters to be a little confusing,

1640
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 2: as like using almost social justice sentiment to support a

1641
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 2: like stupid movie but existing existing three stars. Yeah, but

1642
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 2: I will say the movie is funny and I did laugh.

1643
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 2: Liam Neeson is to die for and family Anderson is

1644
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: to die for. I think you I highly recommend and

1645
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: have some fun and at an hour twenty five minutes, folks,

1646
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 2: you got the time. Xoxo, Sam.

1647
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: Wow, I'm saying it Thursday, can't wait? Have you seen it?

1648
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: I might also be going to the scene.

1649
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: Julie, Yeah great, Yeah, what's the dogs?

1650
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: It's a big dog.

1651
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 3: Jus gone, I'm here to you. I'm here to give

1652
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 3: a shout out. Did not commit just bailed on that

1653
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,520
Speaker 3: guy immediately to be very scary.

1654
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 2: See people. Yeah, I'm known as a nice guy like that.

1655
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: Some guys could just get away with being the big dog.

1656
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 1: True.

1657
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 3: I'm want to give a shout out to one season

1658
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 3: and canceled Netflix mystery comedy The Residents starring zo at Uba,

1659
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 3: and it was really good and very funny. I thought,

1660
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 3: I know, every comedy has to be ten episodes and

1661
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 3: someone gets murdered in it, and this is one of

1662
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 3: my favorites of that genre. She she is very quirky

1663
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,200
Speaker 3: and funny. I would have liked to see many more

1664
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 3: seasons of her solving mysteries. It is like a blast.

1665
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 3: I don't I know like four people that have watched it,

1666
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 3: which is probably why there is not a season two.

1667
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 1: Whoo. I will say, so many people told me to

1668
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,719
Speaker 1: watch it, and and also people did use the social

1669
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 1: justice language of like please watch this like we have

1670
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 1: and of course I didn't.

1671
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I'm sure I would like I don't know,

1672
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 3: especially with Netflix.

1673
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: It's like I know, you know what I did watch

1674
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: all of Hunting Wives?

1675
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 2: How is that? You know?

1676
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: It is maybe the trashiest show I've ever watched, but

1677
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's good. You know, It's like

1678
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: I can't watched all of it. I watched all of it,

1679
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:05,879
Speaker 1: and you know what, I'm part of a large community

1680
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 1: of people because it's number one on Netflix and many

1681
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 1: people I know are watching it. It's just like if

1682
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 1: you just succumb to it, you just get over the

1683
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: hump of like this is trashy and you're in heaven.

1684
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: You're a you're a hunting wife guy.

1685
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a hunting wife guy. I really was. I

1686
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: all the entire time Sam and I were in Chicago

1687
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:24,519
Speaker 1: was like, I can't believe I can't watch The Hunting

1688
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: Wife because I can't because I have to watch it

1689
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 1: with Matthew and I finished it last night and honestly,

1690
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: they absolutely slayed it.

1691
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 2: There.

1692
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 3: There's so many shows that are like like that, Like

1693
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 3: it feels like every show is like that. And my

1694
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 3: wife Maris book I want to burn this place down?

1695
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 2: Is that now? Oh?

1696
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: Yes, she's wonderful and brilliant and she watches all these

1697
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 3: shows like she'll I'll come home and she'll be like,

1698
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 3: I'll go, what are you watching?

1699
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 2: And she'll be like, Sirens, and I have to which one?

1700
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I watched that too, Sirens, nine.

1701
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: Perfect Strangers, the Perfect Couple.

1702
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I watch that too.

1703
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: God, it's you know, it's fine.

1704
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 1: I think myself as someone who doesn't watch things like that,

1705
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: and now that you're listening, and I'm like, I actually

1706
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: have seen all.

1707
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 3: Of them, and I kind of think like white Lotuses,

1708
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 3: like the Apex of One. But there's so much of

1709
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 3: that tone now I know, and it's bad.

1710
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 2: George, I had no idea you were watching all these shows. Uh.

1711
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really have no justification for yours.

1712
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: The Buccaneers.

1713
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: No, I have not watched the Buccaneers.

1714
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: Chris, George, you live like a double life.

1715
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 1: Well your version of this is like playing video games.

1716
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: Shut up, it's like you.

1717
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: I I don't think of that part of your life

1718
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: when you're playing video games. I'm watching Sirens.

1719
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 3: Interesting, I like Sam's like, I just can't I black

1720
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 3: out whenever George talks about watching The guilded Age.

1721
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, you mentioned that one that one I don't watch,

1722
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: and actually Matthew has to watch it without you. I

1723
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 1: think I struggle with Here's what I think, Here's what

1724
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: I I If I'm going to watch a costume drama,

1725
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 1: it like has to be good, Okay, and I know

1726
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: that Gilded Age is good. Don't write in but I mean,

1727
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 1: it has to be like the Age of Innocence. Like

1728
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: I just can't I can't commit to just like hours

1729
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 1: and hours of something if it's not like Scorsese left totally.

1730
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 3: I also, I don't know if I haven't seen enough

1731
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 3: Gilded Age to know that if this is true of

1732
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: the show.

1733
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 2: But anytime something is in.

1734
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 3: The past and everyone's British in America, like, hey, why

1735
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: the fuck are they talking like that?

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Speaker 1: It really it takes me. It takes me out of it,

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Speaker 1: even though again love all those all those ladies. Branski, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Carrie Coons, Nick, that's what I.

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Speaker 2: Was gonna say. An accent next, I in my heart

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Speaker 2: still the Governor never.

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Speaker 1: Was, I know.

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, well, Josh, let's say, actually what your special

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: is all.

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01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 2: That's a great point. That's a great point.

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01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 3: It's called positive reinforcement. It's out on YouTube now, you

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01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 3: can watch it whenever wherever it is. It's a lot

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01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: like this, Like it's a lot like what we just did, like.

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Speaker 1: Gail King loves it, you love it and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: love it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

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01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: Get the rare two co signs Gail King and Stradio correct.

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01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: Wow, I know, I'm like, what else has gotten those two?

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01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: We're just you and O Mary pretty much? What do you?

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Speaker 2: Where do you stand on Oprah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know it's tough. Actually, uh, I know we

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01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: have to wrap up. But if I can say one

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01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: final thing. Someone recently asked me, you know how Leon

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01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 1: Effect does did that Jerry Springer podcast that's like a

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01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: podcast that's all about like reassessing Jerry Springer as a

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: cultural figure. I really think someone should do that with

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01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: Oprah and and you know, in both like and take

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01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: her entirely like, both positive and negative, because she has

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01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 1: affected the culture in so many positive and insanely negative ways. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I would love to see someone really wrap it

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Speaker 1: with that.

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01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be fascinating. Whoever, I don't think she

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01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 2: would push them like a bug.

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Speaker 1: I know the lawyers would be uh yeah, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: has to happen after she died.

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Speaker 2: It's unfortunately I don't need but even I'm not ready

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01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,839
Speaker 2: for a critique of Oprah like, it's like there's.

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Speaker 1: Something she introduced us to doctor Oz and doctor Phil.

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01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she couldn't control them. Once you're in the world,

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01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: she can't control them.

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Speaker 1: She also introduced like white women to the secret.

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01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 2: So the secrets illegal.

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01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: She literally, she literally, she literally is telling everyone to

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01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: gain and lose weight every year. It's like, this year

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01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: you have to gain weight, this year you have to

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01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: lose weight.

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: Well, she's just reflecting what we want to hear.

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01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: No, that's true.

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01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 3: She created opens all.

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01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 1: Come for me. But also listen, she gave us Barack Obama.

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01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,200
Speaker 2: And Tom Crazy marriage Holmes.

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01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: She gave us a million little pieces and then took

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01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: it away. She had that big fight with Jonathan Friends.

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01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,800
Speaker 2: Then Marathon talking about that.

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Speaker 1: So it's amazing, it's so fun.

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01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: It's also Yeah, imagine being an author in a fight

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01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 3: with the most famous reader in America.

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01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Who chose your who wanted to choose your book? Yeah,

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01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: and by the way, imagine coming out essentially unscathed and

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01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: like being respected, Like I understand that he's a punchline,

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01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: but like people still love his work.

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01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even many people who are like make fun

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01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 3: of his kind of like cantankerous old timeiness and like

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Speaker 3: bird Watching, like the Sentences I Know, and the Right

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01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 3: The Corrections came out same day as Ben Folds Rocking

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01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 3: the Suburbs album Wow, same day as jay Z's Blueprint album.

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01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 3: We're of course talking about September eleventh, two thousand and one.

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01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: Is that true? I believe it is.

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01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 1: And Mariah Carey's glitter, Maracare's glitter of course.

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01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 2: Wow, Well, folks, it's not. We managed to get to

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01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 2: September eleventh, two thousand and one. Josh, thank you so

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01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 2: much for doing the podcast. Thank you so much for

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01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: having me. It's such a pleasure to be here with you.

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01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 2: This was such a I hope next time I'm in

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Speaker 2: the same room as you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, next time. Next time we're going to be in

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Speaker 1: the same room as Josh, and Oprah will be there

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01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: to mediate to mediate.

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01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 3: That's right, because we've got some We've got bond.

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01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: That's my Opra impression.

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Speaker 2: It's really good.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, It's exactly what it sounds like what she

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01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 5: says my name Yeah, okay, bye bye bye podcast and

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Speaker 2: co produced by Bei Wang, Edited and engineered by Adam Avalos.

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