WEBVTT - Daredevil: Born Again S2E01: “The Northern Star"

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<v Speaker 1>Warning today's episode Cadat's spoilers for Daredevil Born Again Season two,

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<v Speaker 1>episode one. It's back, You're back. Hello, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Eccepcio and I'm Rosy night and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>Extra Vision of the podcast where we dive deep with

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. Coming to

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<v Speaker 1>you from iHeart. We're bringing you three episodes a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Pluck news. But today's not news, well unless you count

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<v Speaker 2>how horny Matt Murdock is his news because he's back

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<v Speaker 2>and he's still at it. That man will get at

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<v Speaker 2>it no matter what is going on. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be recapping the unbelievably good first episode. Guys. I we

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<v Speaker 2>were surprised because we had those expectations for season one,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were obviously very pleasantly surprised. This is our

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<v Speaker 2>high quality television program. This is answering a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the questions you might have had about certain character dynamics.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also bringing up the action, the cinematography, the lighting.

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<v Speaker 2>This looks like prestige television, so we will be doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're going to bring in Aaron because we've all

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<v Speaker 2>got some thoughts. I'm sure quite hilarious. Thoughts on this

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<v Speaker 2>first episode, and guys, remember to prepare for Avengers Doomsday.

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<v Speaker 2>Once a month we are highlighting one team more character

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<v Speaker 2>with an important role in the upcoming movie. Last month,

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<v Speaker 2>we highlighted the first Avenger Captain America with a fun

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<v Speaker 2>look back at his history and a debate show with

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<v Speaker 2>some of our more colorful hot takes. And this week

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be diving into the team with the most cinematic history,

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<v Speaker 2>who also happened to be the newest additions to the MCU.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that you are all going to be

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<v Speaker 2>so surprised when I say that this is the X Men. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>me and Jason will be losing our shit for that one,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, tune in.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, okay, Dear Devil Born Again, Season two, Episode

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<v Speaker 1>one by Old Bank with the BAB Report talking of

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<v Speaker 1>the people on the street about New York City in

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<v Speaker 1>the Fisk Fixed It era, and everything's going great. I

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<v Speaker 1>have the Here's one thing that you have to say

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<v Speaker 1>about Wilson Fisk. His program is popular with the people

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<v Speaker 1>on the street, or at least the people many of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that the BB Report runs into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and who interestingly are predominantly people of color. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very curated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot. I think there's you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>can unpack this later. But it's notable. It's not like Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like Wilson. Fisk has no constituency.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>That night, a cargo vessel sails under the Brooklyn Bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the Northern Star, a nod perhaps to the

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<v Speaker 1>Lemurian Star from Captain Winter. Thinks, so I like that

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<v Speaker 1>cat and this very Captain America Winter Soldier style open

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<v Speaker 1>in which Dary Devil mounts the ship listens to the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation taking place on the vessel. He goes in. He's

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<v Speaker 1>taking out. There's bad guys with guns all over the ship,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is kicking the shit out of them and

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<v Speaker 1>snapping their bones.

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<v Speaker 2>If you were worried, you don't be getting the Dead

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<v Speaker 2>Devil violence. You're getting it. You're getting it. It's much

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<v Speaker 2>less than last season. He's snapping people's arms. People are

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<v Speaker 2>getting shot in the face into the camera like you're dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>Not by not obviously, but you don't see some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>In the pilot house of the ship, the captain and

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<v Speaker 1>his first officer realized that they've been boarded. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>security cameras down there in the hold, and they know

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<v Speaker 1>that to expect Daredevil. They've been warned about this, and

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<v Speaker 1>they do what they've been told to do when they've

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<v Speaker 1>been borded by Daredevil, which is sink the ship and

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<v Speaker 1>get off of it and.

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<v Speaker 2>Put this I think put distress signalan to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>distract him. It seemed like that was part of the plan.

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<v Speaker 2>But then he managed to find a watch. I was

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<v Speaker 2>very interested. I want to see what they're doing with

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<v Speaker 2>his hearing non hearing powers, and they seem to be

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<v Speaker 2>playing into a bit. But Fisk still doesn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to beat him.

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<v Speaker 1>So Daredevil, you know, is down in the hole. He

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<v Speaker 1>opens some of the cargo crates and there's just guns, guns, guns,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of guns. Fisk is arming clearly, but then he

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<v Speaker 1>realized the ship is going down, and Daredevil basically goes

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<v Speaker 1>down with the ship. It manages to swim away and

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<v Speaker 1>comes ashore and behind him the ship is like listing

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<v Speaker 1>and partially sinking, like the Titanic is give me a ganic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a crazy shot. I live by the port, so

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<v Speaker 2>like the scope of this is crazy, the scale of it,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is Matt making a huge like fuck you

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<v Speaker 2>to Wilson Fisk. It's like the ultimate, like, look what

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<v Speaker 2>you can't hide.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna discover just the kind of scope of Matt's

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<v Speaker 1>almost one man campaign because he's got some help, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about that out a bit, almost one man

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<v Speaker 1>campaign against Fisk. So Matt, you know, drenched in disgusting

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<v Speaker 1>East River water, goes to his hideout and it's like through,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's like through a building and up the

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<v Speaker 1>stairs and down stairs, through a hole in the wall

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<v Speaker 1>into another building. And who is there working out on

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<v Speaker 1>the martial arts dummy. It's Karen Page. He goes over

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<v Speaker 1>and he gives her the update on the arm shipment

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<v Speaker 1>that just went to the bottom of the East River.

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<v Speaker 1>What does Fisk need all this hardware for? He wonders,

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<v Speaker 1>And then there foot and then it's very clear that

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<v Speaker 1>they are fucking no.

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<v Speaker 2>The best line this I literally note at this line

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<v Speaker 2>where I was like, he goes, she's like, need any stitches.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like no, and she goes any like breaks, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like no, and she goes, oh, I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>was a pretty good night then and he goes, could

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<v Speaker 2>be bad. Okay, Well get it, Matt madog, you are

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<v Speaker 2>on a one man mission to take that. Willson Fisk like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you still have time to be fucking? This man

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<v Speaker 2>always has time, Like we are gonna talk about he

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<v Speaker 2>gets no matter what world ending, he's fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, Karen could have in the in the years that

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<v Speaker 1>they were not together, Karen could have found someone else

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<v Speaker 1>she was she never did. It almost happened, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>face it, these two want to be together. Matt wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be with a lot of people, but he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Karen is in that group, and it was nice to

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<v Speaker 1>see them back together.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was this is a big moment for comic

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<v Speaker 2>book people. Karen, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>The classic couple, Yes, I got and Aaron over Matt, Electra,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Matt, any of the other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I I like this. It's the o G

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<v Speaker 2>vibes and now I'm not gonna lie. We were very

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<v Speaker 2>happy that Karen did not get you know, Frank Miller

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<v Speaker 2>born again, Mats Kelly of course innocent as always because

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, yeah, but I'm not gonna lie. This scene,

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<v Speaker 2>she has some like heavy black eyeliner. We notice that

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<v Speaker 2>she's wearing a lot of wigs, she's going through it.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt is stressing her out. So I'm just saying, as

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<v Speaker 2>much as I want things to be great for Matt

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<v Speaker 2>and Karen, I do fear that it may not go

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<v Speaker 2>well for her. That well, that's the fear of being

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<v Speaker 2>a superhero, must it is?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, It's like when you go home from break

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<v Speaker 1>at UNI and you rekindle something for a day with

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<v Speaker 1>an X, only it's like they're under living, underground, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you just get the feeling that this can't last,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's wonderful while it's going.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so warmly shocked to like make it feel romantic.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say this is you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That place smells. It's just like it stinks. It's sweat

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<v Speaker 1>and sex and and like unwashed hats.

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<v Speaker 2>Water. Yeah yeah, is there a shower? I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the fucking thirty six chambers like all day, just like,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, guys, im But I do love Also, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you can see that they value this relationship

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<v Speaker 2>and this rekindling because a lot of these shows, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to Dad Evil, they'll open with a

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<v Speaker 2>love scene or like Matt fucking someone or whatever. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't go there with this one, they just let you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they kiss and then you get back to the violence.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, this is the precious, sacred relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting, but I love it. I love this

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<v Speaker 2>this casting, and I think these two are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be very interesting. As this series continues.

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk gets the news that his Northern Starship has partially

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<v Speaker 1>sunk and the wreckage is currently clogging up the East River,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning none of the other shipping coming to the ports

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<v Speaker 1>down there that Fisk controls are able to get through.

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<v Speaker 1>He immediately declared terror by the terror Stir Devil, and

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel says, you got it, boss, I'm gonna put out

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<v Speaker 1>the press release, Fisk orders Powell, who is now basically

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<v Speaker 1>running the anti Vigilante task Force. I guess it is like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh Man, not looking good for that, Like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bad choice and leadership, guys, bad choice. The Gregory Boveto of.

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<v Speaker 2>Gus Let's let's get let's get slid on this too.

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<v Speaker 2>Like ever thought that Disney would be made in a

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<v Speaker 2>year where they made a show that is just as

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<v Speaker 2>radical as anel completely accidentally, I would guess, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least well Frescian I.

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<v Speaker 1>Will say we talked here's the thing, so we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it last season that you could tell they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ramp it up and they wanted to go in

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<v Speaker 1>a specific kind of authoritarian direction with Fisk, but that

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<v Speaker 1>the world got so crazy around the show that it

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<v Speaker 1>that it seemed to throw the show off in a

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<v Speaker 1>weird way. It's hard to put your finger on. And

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<v Speaker 1>it really feels like they recalibrated and were like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>pull this ship straight from the headline.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, we talked about this in pre

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<v Speaker 1>in pre production, before we turned the knife. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not how the show has been marketed. No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's smart, and it'll be our little secret. Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, don't let don't let him know, because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>fun superhero show. No political realities. There's realities to your

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<v Speaker 2>eyes are open and your living the United States. You

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<v Speaker 2>may seem so you may feel like when we come

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<v Speaker 2>here to or yeah, yeah, when we come here, we

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<v Speaker 2>will let's we can talk freely about it. Yeah, but otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>just keep you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a fun superhero show.

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<v Speaker 2>Come that analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So Fisk orders Powell. The Gregory Bavino of The

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<v Speaker 1>inevigilaty Task Force.

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<v Speaker 2>Dog, I want you off.

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<v Speaker 1>I turn of a current page, and then he orders

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<v Speaker 1>Buck to go find the captain and the first mate

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<v Speaker 1>who abandoned ship. Uh oh, because these are only the

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<v Speaker 1>only living witnesses to the you know, the cargo scheme

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<v Speaker 1>and the only people who might know what Fisk is

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<v Speaker 1>up to, because all the guys that dared Devil beat

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<v Speaker 1>up were too concussed to get off the ship.

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<v Speaker 2>As yeah they were, they died. They died, as he's well,

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<v Speaker 2>only ones who didn't know it was a weapons thing too.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if that part of the anti vigilanti

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<v Speaker 2>toss for they suck. I Also another thing that immediately

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<v Speaker 2>struck me here was like Wilson Fisk immediately starts spinning

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, this is a terrorist attack. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a terrorist attack by the targeted vigilante uh

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<v Speaker 2>dad devil blah, And like, guys, read the news because

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<v Speaker 2>we're here. Read about the Prairie Land defendants. Read about

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<v Speaker 2>the people who were just imprisoned for making znes for

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<v Speaker 2>wearing black. Read reading about.

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<v Speaker 1>Any of the murdered people in the street who were

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<v Speaker 1>immediately labeled as as terrorist instigators. And so it's very

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<v Speaker 1>clear that Daredevil creators like we're.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching, they were watching. But anyway, obviously his team believes it,

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<v Speaker 2>and they go, yeah, yeah, we go to get him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they love Listen. Wilson Fisk has completely bent the

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanisms of the city to his will. At this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Elsewhere in Washington, d C, new character Alert Matthew Lillard

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<v Speaker 1>as a mysterious mister Charles, some sort of high fluting

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence operative who liaises between like intelligence, DC politics and

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he needs to go. He's some kind of high

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<v Speaker 1>powered fixer. He gets call about this chip sinking, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he's immediately headed to.

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<v Speaker 2>De and he is like, I'm gonna myself, bitch, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love Matthew Lellard. Look, I'm not gonna lie, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone knows. I'm very disappointed about Screep seven, but that's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>going to be disappeared to ignorance. I still love him,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he's a good guy. I appreciate that

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<v Speaker 2>he spoke out for Melissa and her right to speak out,

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<v Speaker 2>and he is so fucking good in this role. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is this is a classic mcu type Paul

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just a name from one issue of like

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<v Speaker 2>a Thin Fang Doom arc during Iron Man. I know

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<v Speaker 2>how good is that? I'm like, I wish I came

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<v Speaker 2>up with that with it's William Ham's and actually Tom Grummitt,

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<v Speaker 2>who has come up with a lot of stuff. Just

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<v Speaker 2>one guy who was in but he was he was

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of illegal oil drills for rocks on right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's similar in that vibe. But obviously this is

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<v Speaker 2>essentially a new character. They just love to pull like

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<v Speaker 2>a random name. But yeah, it's great, very interesting, and

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<v Speaker 2>immediately I was like, okay, so he is a politician

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<v Speaker 2>or something, but then we don't learn We don't really

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<v Speaker 2>learn more until later in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So the BB Report covers the Northern Star sinking,

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<v Speaker 1>and again it's clear that throughout the five boroughs, the

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<v Speaker 1>people that the BB Report is interviewing, there's significant support

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<v Speaker 1>for Fisk's spin on the Northern Star that this was

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<v Speaker 1>a terrorist attack. Probably Daredevil and Fiscal figure.

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<v Speaker 2>It arrest all the superheroes, do whatever you need to

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<v Speaker 2>look them up, that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen and Matt are talking about it. Karen is getting

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<v Speaker 1>really frustrated. They can never get anything to stick to Fisk.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt loves the justice system despite being a vigilante. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, we just gotta get enough evidence. We just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get enough evidence, and it'll finally stick to the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor and he will be held accountable. Karen from her

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious investigator source named jess Oh, clearly Jessica Jones, who

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<v Speaker 1>does not have you know, but I love the way

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<v Speaker 1>we introduce her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too, very good stuff, gets the.

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<v Speaker 1>Name of the captain and first mate. They are both

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<v Speaker 1>basically Greek cypriots, and they kind of get a general

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<v Speaker 1>address to start looking at. Let's take a break and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back to talk more Dary Double season two,

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<v Speaker 1>episode one, and we're back. Okay. So Fisk is taking

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<v Speaker 1>meetings in his office and he's just he's fucking pissed's

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<v Speaker 1>getting more and more fucking heated. The Attorney General comes in,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Attorney General is like, hey, let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something, big boy. Okay, these emergency powers you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>yourself back, and the way that you're calling everything that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>like a guy literally on the street a terrorist attack,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't like it. Okay. And the mandatory life sentences

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<v Speaker 1>from mask vigilantes. We don't like it, okay, Me and

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<v Speaker 1>the governor are concerned, and we're going to look into it. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you got this sunk chip. Okay, so you

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<v Speaker 1>better watch your step, big boy, because we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>on your ass. But then mister Charles barges it. He

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<v Speaker 1>just comes in.

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<v Speaker 2>Acting like like a hobo too, like he's just like

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<v Speaker 2>eating up talking about it. He is heroking, he's like

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<v Speaker 2>eating He is like.

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<v Speaker 1>A deep character.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes he's like Timothy, Yes, Timothy plays like carbon boys name.

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<v Speaker 1>But he just comes in. He's swinging his big dick around.

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<v Speaker 1>And immediately it's clear that mister Charles is moving behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes because the Attorney General, Steve Rude, gets a

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<v Speaker 1>call clearly organized by Charles, to call him off the

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk investigation, which hasn't even started yet. There is no investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>but just the fact that he was thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone gets on his ass and is like stop it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know the age he toes the line and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, sorry about the oversight, don't worry about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I support you, I support you, yes, And it's and

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<v Speaker 4>it's very clear that the call is from Valentina Defontein pushing, which,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, like okay, so she's fully evil, Like

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<v Speaker 4>that's I mean, I know, we knew she was a

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<v Speaker 4>bad guy off the last time, but this is like

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<v Speaker 4>you're working with Wilson Fisk, I guess because she wants

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<v Speaker 4>to promote her militarily approved superheroes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very interesting. But I love this Matthew Lillard performance

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<v Speaker 2>and it only gets better.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so true. So Heather is analyzing Jack Jukine the Swordsman,

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of the DA as a like Air quotes independent,

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<v Speaker 1>she's evil psychologist working for the courts, whose recommendations and

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<v Speaker 1>analysis apparently are going to be used by both the

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<v Speaker 1>DA and Jack Chukaine's lawyers, Murdoch and McDuffie. But of

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<v Speaker 1>course we know that Heather is, you know, on the

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<v Speaker 1>payroll of and Duquesas.

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<v Speaker 2>Fisk says, as she's like, I know that you're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Swordsman is being held in some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>black site, and it's clear that he has like no

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<v Speaker 1>civil rights or vivil rights at all.

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<v Speaker 2>First he thought he did, but then yeah, rank he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was kept in occasion Wilson Fisk's basement

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<v Speaker 1>for a period, so he knows what's up. He does

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<v Speaker 1>not trust Glenn to be unbiased. She was probably that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he denies being the mask vigilante. The Swordsman Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>does like a blade Runner replicant word association test with him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like, you know, Hamburger, do you like men's magazine?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like men's magazines? You know that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>She then has like a PTSD flashback and hallucinates muse,

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<v Speaker 1>so she's kind of checked out of it for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very clear that she is absolutely hardcore anti mask,

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<v Speaker 1>anti vigilante, Wilson Fisk believer. She doesn't care that the

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<v Speaker 1>Swordsman has no civil or writes here. And then it's

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<v Speaker 1>very clear that like she kind of likes me, they

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<v Speaker 1>will like beat his ass if he doesn't cooperate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she she enjoys it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is also there's like a huge metal vice next

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<v Speaker 2>to him the whole time as well, like it's just

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<v Speaker 2>giving torture. And she does literally say to him like

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<v Speaker 2>these men will come in and do whatever I want

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<v Speaker 2>to you, so I just need to say, babe, go

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<v Speaker 2>to therapy. It's ironic to be the therapist, but like

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<v Speaker 2>even animal left who was a therapist had a therapist, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>like come on, just get a therapists, Like you can't

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<v Speaker 2>blame everyone. And also you killed that man, like what

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<v Speaker 2>are you name? You killed him? Like chill out?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, she threatens him, is like you better play ball. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>at the Murdoch and McDuffie offices, McDuffie who is still

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<v Speaker 1>doing all the work while Matt Murdoch does none of

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<v Speaker 1>the work and just be fucking dubs a fat folder

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<v Speaker 1>on Cherry's desk. The office is completely overwork because they're

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<v Speaker 1>apparently handling all the critical missing person's cases related to

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<v Speaker 1>Fisk and the Vigilante task Force in the city.

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<v Speaker 2>People who are being kidnapped and disappeared by a terrified

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<v Speaker 2>it's all being handled by Wow, she's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, McDuffie is like a scandal type issue Tony Goldwyn

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<v Speaker 1>and Carrie Washington and Carrie Washington because she's like, where's

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<v Speaker 1>Matt is mad? Okay, I'm worried about Matt. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stop thinking about Matt. Where's Matt. It's like Matt left

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<v Speaker 1>you with all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Word Dude, I gotta know what does Matt Maddock's mouth

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<v Speaker 2>do because like these people like they are, they will

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<v Speaker 2>never forget him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what Tierly is a Carrie Washington Tony Goldwyn situation.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't even know if they've been together. If that's

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<v Speaker 2>just how husband, I'm guessing they've been together.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Karen know that the mcdummie is talking about Matt

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<v Speaker 1>this way? Anyway? Cherry's like, don't worry about Matt. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in This is his way pat hideout, and he's very

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<v Speaker 1>happy and he's doing everything he loves to do, which

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<v Speaker 1>is fight Wilson Fisk from the shadows and have sex

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<v Speaker 1>with Garen Page. He's loving it. That's his dream life,

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<v Speaker 1>so he wants to do DA Hawkburg comes in to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to McDuffie, McDuffie's former boss at the DA's office

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like wow. He looks around the place. The

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.280
<v Speaker 1>place is like messy and he's like, what is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like y bitch?

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<v Speaker 1>He has like Hou's business not looking too good and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, listen, I'm worried about you. You're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>the shit kicked out of you on the Jack Ukaine case.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a creep. Come back to my office.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do Why don't you just like, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>like play ball, like the Elements doesn't. Like She's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the evidence against Jack Ukaine, to which there

0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:51.280
<v Speaker 1>is zero evidence. He's like, listen, evidence doesn't matter anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, I used to be a person of a

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<v Speaker 1>respectable legal person in the world. But like I can

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<v Speaker 1>see which way the wind is blowing, you should see

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<v Speaker 1>it too, and just like get with the get with

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<v Speaker 1>the program. It's more lucrative, like look around the place,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you want to pay your rent? And too, it's

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<v Speaker 1>better for your health.

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<v Speaker 5>So d A.

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<v Speaker 1>Hackberg completely corrupted by this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a true scumbag, this guy. Have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>I Arthur Heather's introduction, I thought it was pretty rare

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<v Speaker 2>that we were going to get to see like a

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<v Speaker 2>more villainous character. But I thought they did a great

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<v Speaker 2>job showing like how a complicit, normal person with power

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<v Speaker 2>can become like as villainous or as evil to us

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, or more so to us because we

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<v Speaker 2>know Wilson Fisk's tragic past, we know his history. This

0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.600
<v Speaker 2>is just some any next guy who's choosing to align

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<v Speaker 2>with fascism just because it's easy and he can make

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<v Speaker 2>money from it. It's it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I love that we're getting more Karen and

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<v Speaker 2>more of our mcduffy here too, Like it's really really

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 2>great to have kised him back and to have these

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<v Speaker 2>two kind of more in the front, which is something

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<v Speaker 2>that we had talked about that other people hadn't liked

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<v Speaker 2>about the first season. So I feel like this really

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.880
<v Speaker 2>answers that. And also I do love that I know

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<v Speaker 2>that Kristen's probably the only person who will take Matt

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<v Speaker 2>to task when he comes back, Like she's not afraid

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<v Speaker 2>to yell at him, even though she is yearning, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think she's yearning.

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<v Speaker 1>I think like maybe she's shooking you.

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<v Speaker 2>Even I was yearning watching that Murdock, Like this is

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<v Speaker 2>the most toxic man you've ever met. He's so bad

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:25.800
<v Speaker 2>for you, he's so unhealthy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a passion, there's a dynamser It's like there's something romantic.

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<v Speaker 2>When he's out in the daytime with his little American

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<v Speaker 2>apparel gray hoodie and his little fucking black ray bands.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, yeah, I get it, man, I would also

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.439
<v Speaker 2>have sex with that Murdica, maybe die for it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I get it. He's got the juice he's got the juice.

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<v Speaker 1>So Matt goes to meet to a secret meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>Cherry under the very famous and well traveled Manhattan Bridge,

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 1>only one of the most that's like always daylight under

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>the Manhattan Bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, guys can be they bought like a school.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on ye. Matt tells Cherry about the ship and

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:08.439
<v Speaker 1>the guns, and Matt and Cherry, it's clear that they

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>have one hundred percent trust. Matt puts Cherry on the

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<v Speaker 1>case of the Captain, the first mate, and is just like,

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<v Speaker 1>find that.

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<v Speaker 2>Find these guys, dude, get this Mat a break, honestly, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not even that pro.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Fisk's task force is like full ice. They're running

0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.040
<v Speaker 1>rough shot over the city. They go to a Greek restaurant.

0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 2>They just be beating up women, punching them in the face,

0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 2>just like beating up the owner of the restaurant, whose

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 2>name we don't get I believe in this episode, who

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 2>she calls Powell a fascist to her face and he

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<v Speaker 2>just like punches her in the face, punch and he

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<v Speaker 2>just she says, fucking fascist.

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<v Speaker 1>That he's Everybody's gone. At this point, the Captain goes,

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<v Speaker 1>who is being hit here? There's clearly like a you know,

0:24:49.320 --> 0:24:53.199
<v Speaker 1>like an underground railroad situation going on here, and the

0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>captain goes racing out the back door. The task Force

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>corner him, they beat the shit out of him, and

0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>they bring him in. While apparently some like anti Wilson

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Fisk commercials with a character in a mask and very

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:10.199
<v Speaker 1>social media quick cut editing have been running online with

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of very fact based anti Wilson Fisk. We'll

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 1>call it propaganda because it's propaganda style video, but it's

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:22.080
<v Speaker 1>fact based, yeah, And it's running online, and it's clear

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that this is the type of thing that Wilson Fisk

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 1>would be upset about.

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, Jason, who are your bets? Obviously we know

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 2>that Matt and Matt and Karen clearly trust BB enough

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 2>to get her to get real news out there, But

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 2>we've only seen her Wilson Fisk propaganda arm So is

0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 2>this her or is there gonna be a new antagonist

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>for Wilson or is this gonna be like a real

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>surprise and it's gonna be Daniel.

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It's her. She's involved in it because she's the one

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:52.960
<v Speaker 1>who understands this world. She understands the internet and social

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:57.080
<v Speaker 1>media ecosystems and how to get a message out on

0:25:57.119 --> 0:25:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the internet. So she's involved in some way.

0:25:59.080 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think you're right.

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Bbe meanwhile, goes to Dan's there's a party going on.

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 2>Why does he have this apartment too? Like that's how

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you know he's corrupt in New York.

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, we're gonna talk about that exactly, and it's very clear.

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>And listen, they did a great job immediately clearing up

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>what's going on between b B and Dan because Dan

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>is like, eh, whoa, where's my hug at? Yeah energy,

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and BB's like, I'm here, Hey, we're hey, I'm just

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>here because you know, we're friends and you're having a party.

0:26:30.920 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>He definitely wants to turn things romantic. Okay, He's like bragging,

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm Deputy Maya.

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Now look at my expensive mass apartment.

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 1>How do I get this apartment? Well, you know, may

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Fisk got me a deal on it, which is like

0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and She's like, are you is that like okay, isn't

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.399
<v Speaker 1>that like corrupt? Or you gotta be careful with that

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>shit because you know, like is dirty, probably allegedly, And

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Dana's like, let of it, don't worry about it.

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 2>I will say I did love this interaction because it

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 2>does establish that BB actually does have like some modicum

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>of real care at this point. But Dan, even though

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 2>she's using him, because when she said that to him,

0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 2>where she's like, you know, if all of this fools

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>on your head, like when it comes down, like you

0:27:15.760 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 2>could really get in trouble, Like there's a bit of

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 2>truth and I think also guilt there. But well, I

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 2>just thought it was a great interaction.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's as we go further. And yes, I will say

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that listen, I think it's a I think, considering the

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:35.399
<v Speaker 1>fact that like armed thugs are occupying the city of

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>New York illegally and like just disappearing people and probably

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>killing them, et cetera, I think that what BB is

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>doing in that context is okay. But from a journalistic standpoint,

0:27:50.080 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 1>this is a just you can't do this. This is true.

0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>You're acting as like the fucking propaganda arm of the

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 2>fascist government at the same time. So I'm like, I

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 2>needed it to be taken him down quick, off Robert

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.640
<v Speaker 2>and making such good propaganda for them.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>So Matt comes to the Greek restaurant to talk to

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 1>the owner and he's like, listen, I'm a lawyer and

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've discovered that, yes, there is an underground

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>railroad situation being run out of this restaurant. He's like,

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I know that you're helping people escape New York City.

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I am Matt Murdoch And immediately she's like, oh, Matt Murdoch.

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>And it's clear that Matt Murdoch has juice in the Resistance,

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>which is absolutely what the loosely knit organization of different

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>actions that are resisting. Wilson Fisk like, it's not necessarily

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>an organization, but they call themselves the Resistance. It is

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>referred to as the Resistance openly, and she immediately trust him.

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, the Captain was supposed to go to Toronto,

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>but the task Force got him. And Matt is like,

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>well what about the first officer And she's like, I

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>just don't know where he is. Powell is torturing the

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>captain because that's what we do now.

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.960
<v Speaker 2>We love to do that. Right to your question, since

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>they have introduced a great separate character is with we

0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:08.680
<v Speaker 2>saw the hand in Spider Man, do you think that

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna try and bring back Electra? And I feel

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 2>like they at least want you to think about.

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Right there, She's coming back. Okay, it's happened. Absolutely, this

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 1>ship is owned by Electra's family.

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.479
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, like this it's gonna be like

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 2>shows up, like yes, it's definitely the Chios family exactly,

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna have some like long lost like understanding

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 2>of lectures or something. It feels like that's what that's

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 2>setting off.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's I'm calling it now. This show, this season

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>is gonna come to your head with multiple Matt paramounts.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I agree, I think you should leave this with the Matt,

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>the Matt harem. You know he I mean, he's already

0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 2>got one, but it could be. Imagine if they brought

0:29:58.520 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>back Night in Us.

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>You really, he's going He's going to be living with

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>living with Karen in the hideout and fighting on the

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.200
<v Speaker 1>rooftops with Electra, and there's gonna be that magnetism again.

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna happen. I just feel it.

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we can feel it.

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>So Powell wants to know, like where the first mate is,

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>and Powell is just torturing the fucking ship out of

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>this guy. When Buck comes in to play, you think

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the good cop and he's look, oh, you think that

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>he's going to tell you anything, we make a coup, No,

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>make him, make him a spot of tea? Why did

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 1>you take a break palace? And the captain is like, listen,

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I told I did what I was told to scuttle

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>of the ship when darda Will got on and I

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know anything, and I don't know anything, and Buck says,

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>you got it, you're right. We it's our bag, sorry

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>about it. We'll can let you go, and then he

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>just shoots the guy in.

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 2>The back, interestingly speaks Greek to him and says like

0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 2>cash Buck, you know he's the heat. Maybe try you know.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 2>But I love that he basically was like I think

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>he said something along lines of like may God forgive

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 2>me because you were innocent? Like actually, like he's like,

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 2>none of this is your fault. I thought that was

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 2>a really interesting moment, especially because the brutality of Powell.

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>You do feel a moment of relief when Buck comes

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 2>in and you think, well, obviously you know what's gonna

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 2>happen because he's a fucking assassin, but that it's like

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a the way that they play with your emotions and

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 2>your expectations and pull the rug out of you from

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.479
<v Speaker 2>under you. In this episode, even with the Matthew Leonard

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>character and kind of the approach that he takes. It's

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>just really great engaging TV.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>So, uh, Fisk is at dinner with mister Charles and

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Alsa happened, and mister Charles is again, this guy

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>just swings his dick over. He doesn't give a shit

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>about manners, about tangleman. You know, Vanessa and Fisk are

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>very genteel people.

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's dressed like he's a fucking like Apple summit.

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>He's got it. He's like spread out across the chairs,

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.719
<v Speaker 1>slouched down, he's all messy. And Vanessa's like, is this

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>like some kind of bit like is this your Is

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 1>this how you do things? You just go around being

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>an asshole and that's like your thing? And and Fiscus like,

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you've made.

0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 2>My wife bitch? Yeah, because he says he really makes

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 2>this all panded comment, which, by the way, kind of

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 2>like a good thing to ask by. He's like, oh,

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, do we can we talk in front of

0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 2>the missus?

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, yeah, how dare you wife.

0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Together? My wife's controlled my organization where I.

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Was jail, how dare you? Mister Charles like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>what's up a bro just to listen. I'm here from

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>powers bigger than you, who are pissed about the port

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>being all blocked up. Now because of this fucking ship.

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>We need to get the thing unblocked so our ships

0:32:59.000 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 1>can come in.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>It also seems like he was involved in the gun running,

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 2>so he was.

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>Clearly liked, so he's allowing it. Well, he's clearly like

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>a fixer for whoever is allowing the gun running, which

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 1>who is Valentina? Somehow like they're involved it.

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe a little bit of Sharon Caught Power Broken too.

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>It seems like this some kind of military optimization that

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.959
<v Speaker 2>Wilson Fisk is allowing. Now, this could be an anti

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 2>superhero thing for the Department of Damage Control. It's really interesting.

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>So Charles is like, listen, let me tell you about logistics,

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>because that's what separates the men from the boys. Okay,

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 1>if you want to put an army in the field,

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>what are they gonna eat, what are they gonna shoot?

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Where are they going to sleep? I take care of that.

0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Who's gonna kill him? Off those he's gonna kill him?

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, if uh you know an army of anti uh

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>mutant cadres in power suits is hunting the X Men

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:01.719
<v Speaker 1>or something like what are they going to wipe their

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>ass with when when they go to room That's what

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I do, okay, And he's like, listen, have unload all

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the cargo from the ship. One, two after that, kill

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>all the guys who unloaded the cargo. What however you

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>need to do it, just make sure you do that.

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Fisc is like hesitant.

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.879
<v Speaker 2>He's like, those are my bros. No, But.

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.799
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the you know, I think he's

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 1>more concerned about him taking the legal hit potentially while

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:37.319
<v Speaker 1>his partner's big foot him, like he's I'm gonna take

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>all the risk while you're not doing anything.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Right now, he has a personal army, so if he

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>kills like the central force of that that he can

0:34:45.640 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 2>trust with this mission, then he has to rebuild it.

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>So it's not necessarily an emotional response, but it is

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 2>an interesting response. And the thing that I love is

0:34:56.080 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 2>that mistics like, Okay, then well I can put together

0:34:59.680 --> 0:35:02.319
<v Speaker 2>a little task for a little group of soldiers and

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 2>they can from around the world, which I feel like

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 2>is definitely going to introduce some interesting new characters. And

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 2>then he's like, you know, and we're just do an

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>industrial accident. After it happens. There is again a lot

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:17.280
<v Speaker 2>of acknowledgement here of you know, real life historical ways

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:21.120
<v Speaker 2>that the governments of many countries have behaved towards their

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 2>own citizens. It's very crazy, and I think that I

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 2>love that Matthew Lillard is using the charm and kind

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 2>of obnoxious like confidence that has often enamored us to him,

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 2>but he's pushing it to a boundary here where it's

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 2>starting You're starting to realize, like, oh, maybe the scariest

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 2>thing is actually a deep character who's fucking competent, Like

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>that's actually terrifying.

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Bbe has Dan's apartment cleaned for him after the party,

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>and you think, oh, well, how nice. Well the cleaning

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.959
<v Speaker 1>guy is a spy ay and has been going through

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 1>all of dan shit, and who knows what they'll find. Meanwhile,

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Karen meets Bbe and they talk about it. Karen is like,

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be careful because if Dan figures out what

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you're up to, like, this is dangerous. I don't think

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 1>you understand how dangerous this is.

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 2>She was also like, do you like him? Do you

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 2>like him? Because she was like that on the record,

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I'd almost like Karen, just because you're fucking the one

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>person you want quick, it doesn't mean everyone else is made.

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.439
<v Speaker 1>She's you gotta acknowledge the realities of the situation. I'm

0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 1>just saying. So Biebie is like, I'm doing it for

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 1>my uncle Ben Urick.

0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Who, by the way, Karen is the fucking reason that

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 2>he's dead, Babe.

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 1>She says that She's like, well, you know, just to

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:37.919
<v Speaker 1>underline how serious this is, Ben is dead and he's

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>dead because of me. This is serious business. Like, be careful.

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Heather is at home working her grip, so she's got

0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 1>one of those grip exercises, and I gotta tell you,

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Heather's gonna suit up at some point.

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 2>You think, okay, So do you think she's gonna become

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 2>her own crazed vigilante killer or do you think she

0:36:58.320 --> 0:36:59.880
<v Speaker 2>will become like a version of Muse.

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I think she is going to become some sort of

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>version of her own anti vigilante vigilante, and potentially it's

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>going to involve a lot of choking.

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Oh my gosh, yes, because of what happened

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 2>to Howard Mus. Also, that makes sense because Wilson does

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of historically has collected Yeah, super anti superhero superheroes,

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 2>whether it's you know TYPOI, Mary oh Man, I'd love

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 2>for them to bring a good version of feels like

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 2>it could happen for sure, especially another paramore, another Matthewmado paramore.

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean complicated one.

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Guys. We gotta we gotta get Heather out of here,

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 2>like call the fucking American Board of Psychiatrists or something,

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 2>get her discard or whatever that version is. Spa. She

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 2>is not spit for purpose, guys. She is doing a

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 2>bad job.

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>So she's there, she's working her group, and she's listen

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>into the Ducaine evaluation tape where she's like, you do

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>you read lumber jad back and sees Hawkman calls the

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you know d a Hawkman and he's like, listen, great

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 1>job on the evaluation of Ducane. But you don't need

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to go through all the stuff. Can you just simply

0:38:19.000 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>write that he is a psycho and whatever else you

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>need to say so that we can just like get the.

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I will say. And I did think the funniest thing

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 2>about this was like they want her to basically make

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 2>say he's a sociopath, right, But then she she clicked

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 2>that he said that he was, She like, what changed

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 2>the ants away? He said he was possessed, and I

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, that's a different kind of insanity. Plea babe.

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 2>But sure, she's not up to it. She's having PTSD,

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 2>she's drinking a lot. She apparently only drinks gray goose.

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I guess she's really into like club culture, and yeah,

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that was a bad move, and the fact that she

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 2>just does it at Hawkman's request is like, fuck it awful.

0:38:56.040 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the do you feel possessed kind of question?

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I forget how she phrases it very weird.

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, do evil spirits possess my body? True or false?

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:10.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming that this is kind of.

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:14.959
<v Speaker 1>Like that's what she's gonna be. She feels that way.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 1>It's clear this is projection from her. She's gonna she

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:23.799
<v Speaker 1>feels that muses is somehow inhabiting her body, and.

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>She's gonna's and then she's now gonna use this to

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:31.600
<v Speaker 2>say Ducane's crazy, he's possessed. It's very interesting. I'm intrigued

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:33.800
<v Speaker 2>to see where they go with this route, because also

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>it does feel like they're doing one of the things

0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 2>that could be really emotionally powerful and tough to watch.

0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Which is they're taking a character who is relatively like

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:45.720
<v Speaker 2>a goofy, pretty okay character who we knew, for example,

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:47.959
<v Speaker 2>was good to Kate, he was not a bad guy.

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 2>And then they're gonna take him from this really kind

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 2>of fun Ya space and move him. And I think

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.479
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna see him get absolutely just horrifically demolished through

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 2>this trial. Through this they're saying there's gonna be more

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 2>pull vigilante trials. And I think that we could see

0:40:03.360 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 2>like a really sad storyline for Duquane. But I will

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:10.080
<v Speaker 2>say he's in New York. Yeah that's Kate Bishop's x stepdad.

0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 2>So maybe we see a little bit of Kate I

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:14.040
<v Speaker 2>would love to see. I have to come in, you know,

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>get him out of some blin Ellie like kind of

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 2>nelly bly situation. But yeah, I had to get her

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>out of him. I'm done with it. Just Matt, just killer,

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Just give us some head trauma. Get out. She's an ad.

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sick of us. She's she's Jason. She's

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>gaslighting people. It's a big Bay prison for life.

0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 1>It's it's very, very bad. At the restaurant, the first

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.560
<v Speaker 1>mate is in the alley eating out of a dumpster

0:40:38.760 --> 0:40:41.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's he's come there for help from the owner,

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>and though they don't show it, she probably helps him.

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, there's a kind of like it's gonna happen.

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The Task Force breaks down Cherry's door. They want

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to know why Cherry is looking for the Greeks. They're

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 1>beating him up. Then Matt comes and Matt is beating

0:40:56.040 --> 0:41:00.399
<v Speaker 1>up the Ice agents, which is great but complicate. In fact,

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>your Cherry begins to have a heart attack because of

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 1>all the excitement. So but then no, he's okay, and

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Matt it's just like, okay, I'll go back to beating

0:41:06.800 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the guys up, and he's really having I get comes

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>back and Matt gets distracted, and it seems like the

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.799
<v Speaker 1>task Force is First of all, they unmask him and

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>realize that it's Matt Murdoch and they're about to beat

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:25.439
<v Speaker 1>him up and take him in when knives shoot through

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the window and kill everybody.

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 2>And we know that ship Bullseye Baby, Matt, Mada Bullseye

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 2>fucking team up. This is some crazy sad boy shit

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 2>and I cannot white for it. It's like gonna be

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>that's just sickening. People are gonna.

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's take it. Let's take a quick break, and

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:58.240
<v Speaker 1>then we'll be back to discuss this episode, and we're back, okay.

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I love the idea of a of a Bullseye Matt

0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>team up based purely on the fact that they are

0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>both like, really really mad at Wilson Fists. Yeah, obviously

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>like Dex has been through it because of Wilson, who

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>is trying to kill it and who has manipulated him

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>many many times into committing many many murders. To be fair,

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that Dex is absolutely forget the fact that he's probably

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 1>insane like committed and is responsible for but Wilson Fisk

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:41.240
<v Speaker 1>absolutely like exploited his existing MELA issues and now Dex

0:42:41.320 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 1>is clearly murderously mad at him, and I think appears

0:42:47.680 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 1>to be genuinely not in a set mad up to

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 1>die way. I think he's genuinely helping Matt because he

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>wants to piss off.

0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Wilson Yeah, and potentially team up with him. So I

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 2>am really excited to pursue that. Let's introduce super producer

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.959
<v Speaker 2>Aaron so he can ask us his biggest questions coming

0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 2>out of this episode and give us some of his

0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:10.879
<v Speaker 2>hot takes. What do you think about a bulls Eye

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Matt team up Aaron Deuce. Is that something you're interested

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:15.400
<v Speaker 2>in seeing? You want to see the two killers together?

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.719
<v Speaker 5>Of course, well not two killers. I just think it's

0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:22.320
<v Speaker 5>so great. Matt has the best luck. Anytime he doesn't

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 5>want to get his hands dirty, he gets a teammate

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 5>who's totally willing to do all the dirty work, and

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 5>Matt can can shake his head and say, oh, true,

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 5>actually don't kill anyone, and then turn around and Verry

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 5>Batman code Bill's Yeah it was. Yeah, I did have

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 5>a there was a small part of me that was

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 5>really hoping Jessica was going to save him at the

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 5>end of this episode, just so that we got to

0:43:42.960 --> 0:43:45.440
<v Speaker 5>Jessica sooner. But this was a great way to end it.

0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:48.800
<v Speaker 5>And I love Bullseye like almost taunting Matt with the

0:43:49.280 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 5>message of the dagger at the end.

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 6>I love that.

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't it's not some sudden turnaround that doesn't

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 2>make sense, but we can understand that the fisk of

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:02.800
<v Speaker 2>it all is the big thing that is going to

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:05.800
<v Speaker 2>unite them. And I'm assuming this is my big theory

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 2>coming out of the end of this season. I think

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 2>by the end Matt Bullseye, all the girls, Wilson Fisk,

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>They're probably going to have realized that whatever mister Charles

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 2>represents or whatever is coming is a bigger threat. I

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 2>think this is leading us to that brand new day

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 2>unexpected allies kind of vibes that we'll be getting into there.

0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 1>My question is, how does Matt Murdoch, his identity as

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Daredevil being widely known now it's fisk new, but yeah,

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>Fisk is they have a weird relationship like that's lostic,

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:46.879
<v Speaker 1>but also very intimate in a bizarre way, where they

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>respect each other and respect certain aspects of each of

0:44:51.080 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>their personal lives, and they like.

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.920
<v Speaker 2>To be in there weird bey together. It's very Batman

0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:57.760
<v Speaker 2>Joker coda.

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:02.959
<v Speaker 1>It's very strange, right, But now the task Force knows

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 1>that Matt Murdoch is Daredevil, and I think at least

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>it's plausible that at least some of them survived the

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Bullseye attack. I wonder how this will play out in

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the future and then if we get you know, Matt

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 1>has been revealed to be Daredevil several times in the comics,

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 1>and it's been complicated for him. There's been times that

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.320
<v Speaker 1>he's had to go underground. There's been times that he's

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.719
<v Speaker 1>like popped back up and been like, oh, that old

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory, Daredevil, give me a fucking break where a

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:40.399
<v Speaker 1>Bullseye has like or other people dressed as Daredevil, like

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Iron Fist dressed as Daredevil have helped Matt get the

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 1>stink off of him, so to speak, to make it

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>seem like that there's actually a Daredevil running around while

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Matt like is having dinner or something, so that they

0:45:55.160 --> 0:45:57.399
<v Speaker 1>can be like, oh, look, I wonder if they will

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>do that, and who the person, if it will be

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Bullseye if they indeed, Oh, Jason, I think that's such

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a good call, right, I think it's probably identification, even

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 1>if they just did it like halfway through the season

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't really matter.

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not gonna lie. The quality of this

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 2>first episode really has me believing that it could be

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>a true tie in to Spider Man, which I also

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.640
<v Speaker 2>am very interested in because Spider Man is really with

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Brand New Day, going to be the first time that

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.240
<v Speaker 2>we truly have something that directly connects to what happened

0:46:31.280 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 2>in a major movie in a really major way in

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 2>a long time. With Peter Parker's identity being gone. So yeah,

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I could definitely see a kind of big event happening

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.760
<v Speaker 2>at the end of this that directly ties in, especially

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 2>with the punisher of it all. Aaron, what were your

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 2>biggest like worries coming into this episode and this kind

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 2>of season as a whole.

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, well, one of the things that I think,

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if this was I had this necessarily beforehand,

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:00.399
<v Speaker 5>but while watching this one, I thought it was really

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:04.279
<v Speaker 5>interesting because so much of the show previously Netflix and

0:47:04.560 --> 0:47:08.839
<v Speaker 5>last season have been Matt trying to balance both sides

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 5>of his life. He's trying to be a lawyer, he's

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 5>trying to be a vigilanty, he's not telling people, he

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 5>is telling people. What does that do to his ability

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 5>to be a good partner to Foggy? And in this

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 5>episode so far, he's not Matt anymore. He's fully daredevil

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 5>and we don't have him balancing that. And at first

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 5>as we were going through as I'm going through the episode,

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:33.440
<v Speaker 5>I was like, this, I'm missing that inner turmoil. But

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:36.600
<v Speaker 5>it allows us to focus so much more on these

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.800
<v Speaker 5>other characters. We're getting a lot of active BB stuff.

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.880
<v Speaker 5>Boebe is not just like some tertiary character. Bbe has

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:47.040
<v Speaker 5>multiple things here with different people, all these interconnecting storylines.

0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:50.640
<v Speaker 5>We're getting Karen is training on the wing chun dummy, Like, yeah,

0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:52.520
<v Speaker 5>maybe Karen can wear the Daredevil suit.

0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:53.440
<v Speaker 6>At some point, I was.

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Wondering if, well, in the recent comics, in the Chip

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Zadovsky stuff, they have a character to become Dad Evil,

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 2>which was really cool, another potential option for someone that

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 2>could put on the suit. Yeah, I agree, Aaron. I've

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.279
<v Speaker 2>really loved how they're using Bebe. I really like how

0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:12.479
<v Speaker 2>they're using Karen. I'm not gonna lie I am. I'm

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 2>a feared for Karen and her new like action packed

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 2>life with her wigs and her kind of like black

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:22.880
<v Speaker 2>eye makeup. It's voting badly for her health. But no,

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.200
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. I also think I really want

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:30.319
<v Speaker 2>them to lean into McDuffie, at least doing one of them,

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 2>like just doing the Duquine trial by herself. Obviously, we

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:35.879
<v Speaker 2>know there's probably gonna be a moment where that mother

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:38.480
<v Speaker 2>fucker walks in with his flake blind cane and his

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 2>little red sunglasses and yeah, so like, I am very

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 2>interested in that element and whether or not we'll get

0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 2>more of the legal battle side from Kirsten until we

0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 2>can get i mean Kristin, until we can get Matt

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 2>back in the courtroom, which is obviously just going to

0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:02.240
<v Speaker 2>be for some show moment at the end because he can't.

0:49:02.280 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 1>There's no way he can.

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 2>They're not getting arrested.

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:08.959
<v Speaker 1>He can't lawyer right now, that's like impossible, there's no way.

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.080
<v Speaker 2>But you can't have him in that suit for one

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>minute at least.

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 1>What do we think the odds are? Because remember, I

0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 1>think probably the longest stretch that somebody pretended to be

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Daredevil was Danny Rand the Iron Fist pretended to be

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Daredevil while Matt was known to be you know, was

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 1>while his idea and Danny had been outed as Daredevil

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 1>in order to kind of you know, throw people off,

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Danny Rand come back.

0:49:33.160 --> 0:49:37.240
<v Speaker 2>What do we think, Oh my god, Actually, Jason, that's

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 2>probably the only way they could do it that people

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.360
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't hate is if they had him come back. Simply

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:45.240
<v Speaker 2>they were like, I know a guy who's the same size,

0:49:45.880 --> 0:49:48.160
<v Speaker 2>and then they have Danny come back and he wears

0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.240
<v Speaker 2>the suit and he does it for an episode or something.

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Because I might worry is if you let bulls Eye

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 1>do it that he'd kill fifteen people exactly. Now it's

0:49:57.080 --> 0:49:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a mass murderer.

0:49:58.440 --> 0:50:00.760
<v Speaker 2>And though honestly that happens a lot to Dead Devil,

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 2>like he's alway the brand or he is also like

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 2>killing people like on.

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.319
<v Speaker 5>That boat at the end of last week. I do

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 5>want to point out at the end of last week

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 5>both Eladie Young and Finn posted workout clips and things

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 5>in the gym, and and they're currently filming season three

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 5>right now, so it is.

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Very you know, don't believe it. I mean they're putting

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:25.839
<v Speaker 2>out After we watched like rewatch Jessica Jones and had

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 2>that conversation, like both us and also the Discord were

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:32.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, wait a minute, is this shit really good?

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I think it's really good. Like no, it's good

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.799
<v Speaker 2>to you know, because they went back to Jessica Jones

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:43.600
<v Speaker 2>they watched it and they were like, oh, actually, this

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 2>is great TV. Like, so I think if they could

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>do some kind of you know, give that funny you

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe you even get a crazy Dead Evil action scene

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:56.520
<v Speaker 2>cold open and then he pulls off the mask and

0:50:56.560 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 2>at Danny rand or something like that could be it

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:02.400
<v Speaker 2>would be grinded. Come on, I think that could be

0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a Trevis Slattery level reimagining. I really love that called Jason,

0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 2>what who do you think his end game by the

0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:16.360
<v Speaker 2>end of this season or is Matt single and alone again? Jason?

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:19.399
<v Speaker 1>I think Matt is single, alone again, and I think

0:51:19.520 --> 0:51:22.880
<v Speaker 1>at the I believe that at the end of this episode,

0:51:22.920 --> 0:51:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Matt will will either be on the run or trying

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:31.680
<v Speaker 1>to live his life fully as Matt Murdoch in order

0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 1>to avoid the linkage with Darteil. I think thank him

0:51:35.080 --> 0:51:37.839
<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco. We've seen some you could do that.

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I think season three will be all about Matt Murdoch

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.879
<v Speaker 1>trying to be like dir what what who?

0:51:43.880 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 2>Also what that Iley line what whosoops who? That could

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 2>lean very heavily into like the original version of this

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:58.440
<v Speaker 2>show that was going to be more like lawyer focused

0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.200
<v Speaker 2>if they did. But yeah, that that could have been

0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 2>really interesting. Aaron, you had a great question, and I'm

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna pose it to you so you can give us

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:12.320
<v Speaker 2>your thesis. Is Matt Murdoch the MCU's greatest heart breaker

0:52:12.480 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 2>or Marvel's greatest heart breakerp what do you believe?

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:18.760
<v Speaker 5>Mc wise one hundred percent? I think early early Tony

0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 5>had a shot. I mean Tony was was doing it.

0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:26.080
<v Speaker 5>But I think Matt's secret weapon is he's not super popular,

0:52:26.360 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 5>so he's not a worldwide superhero.

0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 6>He is self contained to New York and so he

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 6>can he can.

0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:37.400
<v Speaker 5>Get away, yeah, whereas like you know, Captain America can't.

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 5>He's too big a name daredevil. He's still like in

0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.480
<v Speaker 5>the shadows a little. I think one hundred percent. And look,

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 5>having been before pandemic, I used to go to the

0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 5>same yoga studio as Charlie.

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:50.839
<v Speaker 6>I would see him there all the time.

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 2>You about to tell us you were like, Okay, tell

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 2>us more.

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:58.520
<v Speaker 5>But I used to see Charlie like doing yoga all

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:01.760
<v Speaker 5>the time. And I can tell you he is in person,

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 5>the nicest person ever, but also incredibly jacked and and

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:08.120
<v Speaker 5>like we've seen it in previous seasons, he looks great.

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 5>And I think he is one hundred percent Marvel's greatest heartbreaker.

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I would agree with you. I can't think of many

0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:19.840
<v Speaker 2>other people with such prolific romancing because like, obviously the

0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>X Men are very messy, we're gonna get into that

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>and not big X Men impending doomsday episode. But I

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.160
<v Speaker 2>do think, like if you just look at the amount

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 2>of people that Matt Murdoch FUCKX who then end up

0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:32.840
<v Speaker 2>like dead or you know, go lives going badly or

0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 2>just broken up with him. He is on like a

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Batman level of numbers at this point.

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, I need to I need to push back a

0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:43.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Okay, wants a heartbreaker? Oh Ida, nobody actually

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 1>walks away feeling bad?

0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 2>No, Like true, he's a good lover apparently.

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean everybody, here's the thing about Matt Murdoch.

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Steve Rogers, Like, here's the problem with Steve

0:53:55.800 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers and Steve Rodgers gonna love bomb you and be

0:53:58.200 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like let's get start talking about kids and ship and

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 1>it's second date, you know, Like right away, Matt Murdoch

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 1>understands what the score is. Matt Murdock is down for

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:12.839
<v Speaker 1>whatever you are down for exactly what of this? What

0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:13.640
<v Speaker 1>do you want to do?

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:13.920
<v Speaker 5>Like?

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you want a two week thing? Do you want

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like a monogamous thing.

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Do you want a passionate, violent thing?

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you want a one night thing? Like He's good

0:54:23.760 --> 0:54:26.720
<v Speaker 1>for all of it. So I actually reject the idea

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.319
<v Speaker 1>that anybody's heart is getting bro Karen a little bit

0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 1>because of that. They grew up together basically you know

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:35.800
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like they they were young people starting

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:39.960
<v Speaker 1>out in the world and kind of grew as professional

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 1>people and young professionals together. So it's like a different

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.640
<v Speaker 1>situation there. But everybody else is like they got exactly

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:48.200
<v Speaker 1>what they wanted out of the Matt relationship. He's not

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 1>He's not tricking anybody.

0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:52.960
<v Speaker 2>He has a lot of friends. Who has exes both

0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Heba Glenn did not get what she wanted out of

0:54:55.920 --> 0:54:58.160
<v Speaker 2>that thing.

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:02.439
<v Speaker 1>Was a bad agree. But that's a bad choice by Matt.

0:55:02.640 --> 0:55:03.480
<v Speaker 2>That was Matt Heather.

0:55:04.320 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Heather can't be honest with herself, Like how is she

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be honess relationship?

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

0:55:11.400 --> 0:55:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Okay, guys, Matt, Matt is the one most likely to

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 5>be on field.

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:19.480
<v Speaker 6>I think he can. He can truly spin his weares there,

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:19.839
<v Speaker 6>I think.

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, guys, wait, I go to ask you Bullpark number,

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 2>Matt Matt buddy count.

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, from from high school to college.

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying like two hundred plus.

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying like, oh, I think it might be and

0:55:36.600 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it might actually could be crazy. I think

0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just because of the fact listen erin.

0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Like Jason said one one night stand two weeks Like yeah,

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 2>he's flexible college.

0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Imagine like freshman year of college. Like, imagine being able

0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:54.239
<v Speaker 1>to walk into any party, any bar, any room and

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:57.279
<v Speaker 1>know immediately who you have chemistry with. Be like, oh,

0:55:57.360 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I felt her heart jump over there. Let me just

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like go over to that.

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Side and accidentally knock into them with whoop.

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:08.799
<v Speaker 1>So I'm blind, Oh my god, I'm like, oh, can

0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:10.480
<v Speaker 1>you help me? I don't worry.

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:13.160
<v Speaker 2>How do I how do you know?

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Like? And I and I just think he fucking cleaned up,

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:19.640
<v Speaker 1>and I think it could be in the hundreds. I

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 1>think it absolutely could be.

0:56:21.320 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 6>I do.

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 5>He also is just eternally charming, so I think that

0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:26.880
<v Speaker 5>he would always get it.

0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I like, even if we just think

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 2>of the people we know he had sex within the MCU,

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 2>at least ten people, so that's like just like if

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 2>we actually think outside of that she because he had

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:39.759
<v Speaker 2>sex with he had sex with Rosario Dawson, he had

0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 2>sex with Electra head A, Glenn Karen Page. There's definitely others. Wait,

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:46.880
<v Speaker 2>hold on a few seasons.

0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 1>We can redcon it too, Natasha, I think it is

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:57.000
<v Speaker 1>definitely canonically in the comics. They fucked a lot, so

0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I they should figure out a way to re con that.

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:05.480
<v Speaker 5>Matt, because actually what happened in Budapest was that they

0:57:05.560 --> 0:57:08.320
<v Speaker 5>met in Budapest exactly.

0:57:10.480 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh Matt, we love you, Okay, I mean like you

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:16.160
<v Speaker 2>know there's support typhoid Mary, Yeah, you know if.

0:57:16.000 --> 0:57:21.959
<v Speaker 1>You exist and Night Night Nurse, like it's it's out there.

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:25.959
<v Speaker 1>So that's like just and that's so we're saying, let's

0:57:25.960 --> 0:57:28.200
<v Speaker 1>call it a Disney property, even though a lot happened

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 1>in the in Netflix, Okay, but it's a Disney property canonically,

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 1>in a Disney property, Matt Murdock's Disney body count is

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>like approaching ten.

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Exactly who else is idiot tunnels that there's just don't

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:44.800
<v Speaker 2>they had sex one time? Like this is the thing

0:57:44.880 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 2>is like everyone has you have you know, Tony has

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 2>had sex with women, but it was like Matt, like

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Matt Maddock Fox, Tony Stock is like a collector of things.

0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:58.120
<v Speaker 2>He rarely heard any sleep with like three people, even.

0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:01.800
<v Speaker 1>The extremely problematic like early Tony, when you like really

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>look at it, canonically, it's still like only two or

0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 1>three before he marries his Right, there's the reporter in

0:58:11.160 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>was it the first one? Right, So there's the reporter

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:15.800
<v Speaker 1>in Iron Man one and then there's Pepper.

0:58:16.040 --> 0:58:19.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not like it's not like a massive No,

0:58:19.080 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 2>there's like there's like acknowledgments to it. But it's not

0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 2>like Matt Murdock is like he is getting at every opportunity.

0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 2>He is mad, getting mad that Ali cat. We love him,

0:58:29.120 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 2>we support it. I love that he seems to make

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:34.120
<v Speaker 2>his lovers feel good, so I support that too, like

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:37.800
<v Speaker 2>good pam. Okay, wait, guys, other big questions. Jason watched

0:58:37.800 --> 0:58:43.800
<v Speaker 2>your Wildest Speculation around Miss Charles. No, no, I was

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:47.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna say, I think Danny rand reappearing in the.

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Pretty crazy, right, I want to be so right, But

0:58:54.240 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 1>my mister Charles, you know, I think mister Charles is

0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he is a valin Tina lieutenant. I think

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 1>that it's unclear to me right now what is going

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 1>on and why the arms. I'm not sure all the

0:59:09.600 --> 0:59:13.000
<v Speaker 1>arms are for Fisk, but it's clear that Valentina is

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 1>bringing in hardware and gear that she needs to to

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>bring into the port there, and so what is that

0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:21.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff going to be? Wild guess? I mean you mentioned

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 1>power Broker. Are we going to start supering up people?

0:59:25.320 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Is it going to be massive gallons and that's illegal

0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:33.480
<v Speaker 1>super soldier. Is it going to be power suits for

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 1>her like anti uh powered Wonder.

0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:40.919
<v Speaker 2>Against superheroes.

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 5>Basically, I have I want to have one wild take

0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:47.040
<v Speaker 5>that I'm almost positive will not be the case. But

0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 5>they made a point to multiple times with mister Charles

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 5>focus on his hand with the ring, and so I

0:59:53.280 --> 0:59:57.600
<v Speaker 5>was like, is he connected to Shanci's sister in the

0:59:57.640 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 5>ten Rings?

0:59:58.280 --> 0:59:59.760
<v Speaker 6>Like is he actually working?

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:03.880
<v Speaker 5>And maybe they're the ones running guns through the port

1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:06.160
<v Speaker 5>like and Valentine is connected in some way too.

1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:07.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's going to be the case, I know,

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:10.440
<v Speaker 2>but I love that. I also did think as well,

1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:12.840
<v Speaker 2>something that that's really great point, Aaron, because I forgot

1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:14.960
<v Speaker 2>to note this down. I also do wonder if they're

1:00:15.000 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 2>setting him up to kind of try and take over

1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:20.160
<v Speaker 2>from Fisk, because it's a very Fisk thing, like and

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:22.040
<v Speaker 2>not I don't think they would do that, but like

1:00:22.560 --> 1:00:25.440
<v Speaker 2>him try and take over because the whole like his

1:00:25.680 --> 1:00:29.240
<v Speaker 2>ring clicking on the glass. Now, I will say Fisk

1:00:29.320 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 2>did look very upset when he saw him. So there

1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:34.840
<v Speaker 2>is also some kind of personal history potential there too,

1:00:35.520 --> 1:00:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and we could find that maybe they were not like brothers,

1:00:38.120 --> 1:00:39.840
<v Speaker 2>but maybe they were. I feel like there's a they

1:00:39.920 --> 1:00:42.320
<v Speaker 2>want to show the similarities in some of the ways

1:00:42.360 --> 1:00:44.880
<v Speaker 2>that they move while also showing us the difference is

1:00:44.960 --> 1:00:48.840
<v Speaker 2>between that kind of nouveau like stealth wealth and then

1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.920
<v Speaker 2>like the way that Wilson and Vanessa act, which is

1:00:52.000 --> 1:00:53.960
<v Speaker 2>very like old school eloquent wealth.

1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's clear that part of it too,

1:00:57.400 --> 1:01:02.000
<v Speaker 1>is like whoever Charles is working for. They feel like

1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Wilson is small.

1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Time, right, that's scary.

1:01:06.440 --> 1:01:09.320
<v Speaker 1>He's a he's a regional guy. He's a regional power

1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and local awards. He's a you know, local mafia figure

1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:16.840
<v Speaker 1>in New York City who's become mayor blah blah blah,

1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:21.479
<v Speaker 1>like not actually a threat to them or somebody who

1:01:21.640 --> 1:01:25.120
<v Speaker 1>they need to take seriously at the level they are at,

1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:26.240
<v Speaker 1>which is very interesting.

1:01:26.520 --> 1:01:27.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 5>I love like you're the head of the snake and

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<v Speaker 5>it's barely worth my time to be here. I'm sitting down,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm insulting your wife at the table, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 5>euro king like I'm I'm I could barely.

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<v Speaker 6>Be bothered to be here. Yeah, you are nothing. I

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<v Speaker 6>love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that too. And Ian put a great note

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<v Speaker 2>in the chat. It's like the world's bigger than New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Like when we watch this show, it's like New York,

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<v Speaker 2>New York, and this is the most high stake shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But to him, he's like, who cares? Like we got

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<v Speaker 2>so much many other irons in the fire, you know. Okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>let's start our official dead Devil Deadpool.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do we.

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<v Speaker 2>Expect to live or die this season? Who is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, two, and three for deaths for each other?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, number one is Karen Page. I'm giving. I'm giving.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving, Like you know, I'm giving. What is the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one hundred dollars gets you ten dollars that

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Page should die? I feel like it's one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>She is dying sadly. I think it's true. All right, Rosie,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's your first choice too. I'm a Karen too,

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<v Speaker 2>what's your first my first choice? I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>But he like was only on screen three times, and

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<v Speaker 5>every single time he made a point to mention that

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<v Speaker 5>he's retired.

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<v Speaker 6>It's Cherry. I think Cherry's not gonna make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Cherry's had two heart attacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, one episode yeah, true, true, He's not having

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<v Speaker 2>a good time Jason, who's your second?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, Vanessa, she's run her course, hasn't She has?

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<v Speaker 1>She is unless there is something that she is plotting

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<v Speaker 1>or scheming, some other thing that she's running it. There

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<v Speaker 1>were hints of that in season one, right where she

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of building up her own power base and

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<v Speaker 1>maintaining it and doing the street level stuff, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>she thinks, you know, this whole thing with Wilson has

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<v Speaker 1>run its course. They suggested that. I think in season one,

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<v Speaker 1>unless we get hints of some other thing, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa's kind of run her course. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you make a good point. Also as well,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that Bullseye feels like she is equally as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, endangered his life and his mental health and

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<v Speaker 2>his you know life is the non assassin. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's true. I'm gonna go I think Daniel,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that act, but I have to say, this

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<v Speaker 2>is my this is my long rate son of Gandafini,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's killing it. I want them to continue this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of Doge esque which, by the way, at the

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<v Speaker 2>time again felt so fucking pressy. And I love this plotline,

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<v Speaker 2>but I am I do know the MCU, I do

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<v Speaker 2>know the world. I believe this is my long I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're gonna reveal that the king pin Leka is

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<v Speaker 2>actually Daniel, who is inspired by Babe, and he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get killed and that's gonna be like a redemption arc

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<v Speaker 2>for him, but not till the end of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>because they just can't help to redeem like a young

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<v Speaker 2>white guy. I think that is likely, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be sad if it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I I think that I think Daniel is next

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<v Speaker 1>for the white suit. I think I would love that Donofrio.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is Donafrio? Donafrio is not getting any younger folks,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I'm not saying that we that Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>is for the death list, No, no, no, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am saying that at a certain point, I think Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>might get elevated to the big boys spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that they do play with this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the deputy, He's the next in line. I love that, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>Who's who's your second most likely to die?

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean you brought up Daniel and I have

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<v Speaker 5>been loving again this show not reminiscent of real life

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<v Speaker 5>in any way, but I have loved watching Fisk's cabinet

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<v Speaker 5>be messy, and I love seeing like because we get

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<v Speaker 5>more time with them and they're not just like faceless goons,

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<v Speaker 5>even even the head of the a VTF who just

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<v Speaker 5>like a gravelly voice all the time. I think that

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<v Speaker 5>Buck is too talented and too good of an agent

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<v Speaker 5>that he's gonna he's gonna wind up going against someone,

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<v Speaker 5>and like I think Bull's Eye will probably take him out.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think Buck is gonna get taken out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I like that one. I like that I could

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<v Speaker 2>see it happening. He is very competent that could threaten

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<v Speaker 2>other people in them and just.

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<v Speaker 5>Like Wesley, it's gonna make Fisk mad. Like it'll be

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<v Speaker 5>a go of Season one where Wesley, who I think

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<v Speaker 5>was one of the most interesting characters and one of

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<v Speaker 5>my favorite, like scenes across a dinner table or in

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<v Speaker 5>this case, a table in an abandoned warehouse, I think

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<v Speaker 5>Buck is gonna go out.

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<v Speaker 1>It did leave me wondering if Buck is like secretly

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<v Speaker 1>a spy for mister Charles and Kingpinsill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's definitely giving something intriguing like that, Like that

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a when he came in that was

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<v Speaker 2>like it felt like a real judgment when he was

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<v Speaker 2>like telling him to do a bad job. It was,

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<v Speaker 2>it was, it was just interesting. Okay, quick fire around Jason. Wait,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, I was gonna say, that's your lost one, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my last one. And I think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>long shot, but I'll say this, how many more times

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<v Speaker 1>can Bullsye get arrested and escape? Yeah? How many more

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<v Speaker 1>times can they put him in the Hannibal lecter get

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<v Speaker 1>up and then he fucking gets out? I think not

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<v Speaker 1>many more times to zero more times? And so it

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<v Speaker 1>would not be shocking to me if Bullseye shuffles off

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<v Speaker 1>this mortal coil of the MCU in this season. I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I also my sadly, my lost one is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>my good friend Jack. I love him. I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>getting got by someone. He's gonna do something heroic. I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be saved by Kate, but he's a side character.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a lot of gravitask. It would be like,

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<v Speaker 2>we need to see it with the sword one time.

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<v Speaker 3>One time, and Aaron, who's your final Heather, Heather, She's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna she's gonna like, I don't know, maybe we get

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<v Speaker 3>a little come up and where she does become some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of vigilante herself or anti vigilancy vigilanty, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the ATF.

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<v Speaker 5>Takes her out. Maybe, oh that would be really nice.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I think Heather's Heather's not gonna last long.

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<v Speaker 5>She's okay, she's I don't want to say overstate her welcome,

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<v Speaker 5>but her character is really pushing into bad waters.

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<v Speaker 1>Can they do? We think there's a chance they were

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<v Speaker 1>like red Coon typhoid Mary into Heather.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, only only because, oh maybe with

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<v Speaker 2>the different personalities. I don't know, Only because Typhoid Mary

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<v Speaker 2>is such like a beloved character at this point, and

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they adapted her, and then like I

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<v Speaker 2>think second or third season of I Am Fist was

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<v Speaker 2>like interesting but didn't really hit. And I think at

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<v Speaker 2>this point Heather is like too obviously evil, whereas type

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<v Speaker 2>of Mary is a more complicated character. Now do I

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<v Speaker 2>think that means they wouldn't do it? I mean no,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that could definitely happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just saying because of the visions of the hallucinations,

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<v Speaker 1>the hair is similar to the comic version.

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<v Speaker 2>So like the Matt connection, obviously, like Matt loves him,

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<v Speaker 2>but she blames him for what happened to her. It's

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<v Speaker 2>very similar, Jake.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just say, as watch this space, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as mutants become more of a of a reality on

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<v Speaker 1>a on a kind of granular level in the MCU,

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<v Speaker 1>watch if anything catches fire in her presence.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I can't wait. This is such a fun episode, Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for joining us. Can't wait to talk about it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we will be breaking it down weekly for you guys

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<v Speaker 2>who can listen to it as soon as you watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next episode of Extra Vision, we'll continuing our

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<v Speaker 1>march towards Doctor Doom and Doomsday with our X Men

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Impending Doomsday. That's it for this episode. Thanks

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