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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario. Today I have two incredible actors

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Speaker 1: on the show because we are celebrating their powerful and

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Speaker 1: moving and oh important series that's gonna stay with you

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Speaker 1: for quite a long time. So the wonderful Joey King

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Speaker 1: and Logan Lhermann star in the limited series We Were

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Speaker 1: the Lucky Ones, which is out right now on Hulu.

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Speaker 1: The series is based on the New York Times bestselling

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Speaker 1: novel of the same name, and it is inspired by

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Speaker 1: a true story of one Jewish family separated at the

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Speaker 1: start of World War Two, determined to survive and reunite.

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Speaker 1: We Were the Lucky Ones. It demonstrates how in the

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Speaker 1: face of the twentieth century's darkest moments, that human spirit

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Speaker 1: man it can endure and well even thrive. The series

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Speaker 1: is a tribute to the triumph of hope and love

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Speaker 1: against all the odds. I am not kidding when I

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Speaker 1: say it will stay with you forever. It is so

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Speaker 1: beautifully done. So in this episode we dive into a

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Speaker 1: series that means so much to Joey and Logan. We

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Speaker 1: then reflect a bit back on the Kissing Booth franchise

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Speaker 1: and the Percy Jackson films, which are projects that made

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Speaker 1: Joey and Logan become household names. We then pivot to

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Speaker 1: how Joey and Logan are well a bit uncomfortable with

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Speaker 1: the concept of being famous, but they're so proud of

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Speaker 1: where they are in this moment in their careers. Oh

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Speaker 1: and we talk about how both of their unfortunate experiences

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Speaker 1: their brains. So let's see if today we can get

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Speaker 1: Joey and Logan to say something that they've never said before.

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Speaker 1: Joey and Logan, how are you too today?

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Speaker 2: Good dude, thank you for having us.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I am so psyched to talk to you. First

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Speaker 1: of all, Oh man, I have to tell you when

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Speaker 1: I watched the trailer about a month ago to your

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Speaker 1: new mini series that came out, I was balling, like

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Speaker 1: ugly crying. My husband was like, are you okay? What

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Speaker 1: are you watching?

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Speaker 3: That's so sweet.

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Speaker 4: I had a similar reaction the first time watching it

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Speaker 4: through me too.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good trailer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is so reasic. Yeah, that song is like

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Speaker 1: so great and the series I got to check it out,

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Speaker 1: is so incredible. So I imagine for the two of you,

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Speaker 1: was this a super emotional and moving experience being a

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Speaker 1: part of a project like this most deaf.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I feel like there's so much personal connection to

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Speaker 4: this story. Anyway, We're both come from Jewish families and

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Speaker 4: that heritage obviously connects us to this subject matter very deeply.

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Speaker 4: But also like the research for the show, getting to

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Speaker 4: knowledge and research into kind of just being able to

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Speaker 3: We all became so close.

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Speaker 4: It's like truly like a real family, and like even

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Speaker 4: in the way we're like get on each other's nerves

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 4: But that's what made it kind of beautiful, Like we

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Speaker 4: love with the people we were playing. It was a

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Speaker 4: very special, special experience, very rare and special it was.

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Speaker 2: And you know, there's a different connection to material you're

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Speaker 2: working on as an actor when it's true. It's truth,

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Speaker 2: and you know that these are real people and real lives,

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Speaker 2: and it was a really emotional experience.

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Speaker 3: Responsibility.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and then on top of it, Georgia Hunter

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Speaker 2: monitors on you know, on set, her family would come,

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Speaker 2: her mom would come, Like I played George's you know, grandfather,

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Speaker 2: that they were told, or that George's mother was told

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Speaker 2: Was it just hit differently than anything I've worked on before.

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Speaker 2: It was an incredible experience.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it was. And like you said, because there's

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Speaker 1: Like was there a day or were there multiple days

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Speaker 2: Much so, I mean I actually felt that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Joey had a day that was difficult, I was much more.

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Speaker 2: You were like, yeah, over yourself or act there's act no.

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Speaker 2: I was like I was. I was concerned. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you had a lot of heavy lifting to do, really

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Speaker 2: tough work, you know, Helena was, I mean, is the

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Speaker 2: and you as an actor have such responsibility in your

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Speaker 2: And I would watch you and know the days you

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I would express it to you

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Speaker 4: Like are you going to Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You okay, I'll be here, And like a.

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Speaker 4: Really wonderful because like obviously Logan and I are really close, and.

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Speaker 3: Like I became really close with the rest of the

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Speaker 4: Would all kind of separately have different things that really

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Speaker 3: Like we would all have.

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Speaker 4: Our moments where we just kind of have a cry

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Speaker 4: there would be frequent check ins, which was so wonderful

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Speaker 4: But for some reason, just like the support from everybody,

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Speaker 2: Those moments and just you know, like having an escape

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Speaker 4: Each other up, whether it was like in a way

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Speaker 3: And that was really like just having close friendships.

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Speaker 4: Like that was really important to be able to get

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was worried about you more than I was

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Speaker 2: for myself or something about that. It was hard work though.

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Speaker 2: It's a really tough rule and tough thing to take on.

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Speaker 2: And for me, it's like Audie is dealing with a

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Speaker 4: Whereas which was because we were so close and we

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Speaker 3: Just make that an ocean of feelings.

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Speaker 1: That is so cool to see because you know, I

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Speaker 1: going to be as you're describing it, right. It's work,

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Speaker 2: I mean, like you were saying, though sometimes it's not there,

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Speaker 1: So what magic sauce do you two have that it

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Speaker 2: Well, we knew each other too beforehand, and like I

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Speaker 2: time becoming a family. And I think that's tested the

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Speaker 2: in between us testament to uh, you know, Tommy Kale,

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Speaker 2: testament to their casting everybody involved, but its testament to

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Speaker 4: And yeah, Tommy would often say he'd be like, nailed

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Speaker 4: it exactly. We would talk about like, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: and he's like, did I tell you where?

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Speaker 4: It all get along, which was so fun and was

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Speaker 4: like we did, like I said, like true family, like

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Speaker 4: even like the stuff, like we would bicker, and that

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Speaker 4: I think the secret sauce is like it's hard to

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Speaker 4: say because I mean, I've worked on so many things

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Speaker 4: or maybe you don't.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't, just don't.

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Speaker 3: And you just never know.

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Speaker 4: But I think also Logan says, it's true a lot

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Speaker 2: I think we are like, yeah, we didn't bigger at all.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, we don't bigger, we don't bigger.

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Speaker 1: I think it's so cool because these roles are so

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Speaker 1: different for the two of you. I mean, you have

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Speaker 1: incredible careers, you've done seemingly at all. There's so many

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Speaker 4: You're here to broaden the horizons. So just call us

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so very much. Remind everybody one more

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Speaker 1: time the name of the series where to watch all

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Speaker 1: You You are like a family. Well, thank you, thank

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