1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, Hey, I'm Tiffany. 2 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: What's up. Guys, It's Mandy. 3 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: And this is brown a Vision. Hey, Mandra, how you been. 4 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: I've been good. 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: I've been good. I've been enjoying this little teaser of 6 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: spring weather, although winter is already back and driving me insane. 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the winter. It's definitely giving us some Oh what's 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: that thing you guys watched that I don't watch? 9 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: Came of Thrones? 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Yes, but you know what, you'll be proud of me. 11 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: This is a little aside because I see the new 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: Game of Thrones is coming out soon, right, the last one? 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, April fourteenth, but you know who's counting. 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: And I felt like I ought to know at least 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: some basics of what's happening. There's actually this really great 16 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: YouTube channel called CRAM. I think it's see. I don't 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: know if it's KRC either way. So he crams each 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: season into like a twenty to like thirty thirty five 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: minute explanation, and I feel like I know things. 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, got a challenge. 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: It was really good, honestly, because I was bored one night, 22 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: I could not go to sleep, and I said, you 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: know what, I feel like I'm never going to watch 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: the Game of Thrones because I mean, let's be wrong, 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm so behind. But so I watched the first season 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, the first season cramed. It 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: was like, I said, like thirty minutes and I said, okay, 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: the narest Targarian, Okay, just you know, poor poor Ned 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: with his head cut off, got it, got it, got it? 30 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Spoiler hurt damn well. 31 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if you haven't watched the first season, it's 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: already just watched crams. 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of heads that get cut off. 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: But it was so honestly, it was so good and 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can see why you guys 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: like it. Although I am not sitting down to watch 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: eight seasons of so many episodes. But I thought proud 38 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: of myself because I feel like when the new season 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: comes out, because Superman does watch Game of Thrones, and 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: now I feel like I can watch with him and 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: not be like, who's that, what's that? What's going on? Yeah, 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know things. I was like, oh wait 43 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: till I tell Mandra. 44 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: I mean, no, it's you know, no, there's just so 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: much content out there. I don't blame anybody for I 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: mean I spent this weekend. I thought I was going 47 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: to binge the Queer Eye, which I did watch a 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: few episodes. Do you watch Queer Eye on Netflix? 49 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: Oh, there's too many things to watch. 50 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: I know, there's so much, but like this is this 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: show will just make you just just want to hug 52 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: a puppy and just be so happy. They're just such 53 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: a fun like little show. You don't have to binge it. 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: You can just watch little sprinkles of it. But I 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: had to. I like forced myself to get out of 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: the house and enjoy the sunshine. So I was quite 57 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: feeling myself for just enjoying. We did a lot of 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: yard work and we went took Molly to the dog park, 59 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: which she wasn't a fan of. Little Molly is an 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: introvert like her mommy. 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh she didn't like the dog park. 62 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: She was just she's introverted. She doesn't It was just 63 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: too much stimulation for her. You know, all these extroverted 64 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: dogs trying to sniff her butt and you know, play 65 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 2: with her. 66 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 67 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: You exactly it was. It was too too much for her. 68 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: So it was a little sensory overload. And we came 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 2: home and we just made our backyard a nice little 70 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: place for her to relax, and it was funny because 71 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: her real personality started coming out and she was having 72 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: a good time. 73 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw your ig. Sorry. I thought it was 74 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: so cute when you guys were you were chasing her 75 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: and she was like catch me, okay, no, pet me. 76 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was so adorable. 77 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, she walks herself now, it's awesome, just in the byard. 78 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: I love that. Is she gonna get much bigger? Do 79 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, like how how big her breed or whatever 80 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: normally gets. 81 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: No, this is it. She's a little over a year old, 82 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: like a year and a half, and this is she's 83 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: fully grown. So she's like really little size. Yeah, she's 84 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: just she's mixed. She's a Labrador, but she's mixed with 85 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: something small, like a type of terrier that's small. So 86 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: we got really lucky because she's got all the personality 87 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: of a lab but not the huge size. Like if 88 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: you look at her next to a full sized labrador 89 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: like a purebread, she's like one third of their size. 90 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a great size. Oh look, mixed girl got 91 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: a mix babe, be big s puppy. 92 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: My little mutt and she's black and white too, but 93 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: you know, on the. 94 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: Nose, I love that. Oh yeah, she's adorable. You almost 95 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: make almost I'm like, oh, I want to pat a dog. 96 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: I honestly the mental health boost from having a dog 97 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: in my life, because I've been wanting a dog for 98 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: I would have had a dog years ago if it 99 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: wasn't for waiting for my partner to be on the 100 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: same page. Really frustrating, but finally we got one. But 101 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: I just I grew up with dogs and I feel 102 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 2: like she has. Yes, there's sort of the maintenance of 103 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: having an animal or whatever that you know, you have 104 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: to like plan your life around them a little bit, 105 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: but I think that's good practice for having a kid 106 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: for one, and then two just the mental health benefit. 107 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just so much happier. And she's also 108 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: forcing me to get out of the house, Like I 109 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: get up at seven am and go on a one 110 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: and a half mile walk that I never would have taken, 111 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: you know before. And I think that she's just had 112 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: so many benefits just even just being in my life 113 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: for a few weeks that I'm not going back. I'm 114 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: always gonna have a dog. 115 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, they say you know. I mean that's why 116 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: you see sometimes they have like an animal kind of 117 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: like program at like like elder homes and stuff like that, 118 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: because it just it's just helpful. I remember when I 119 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: had a I mean, I know a cat's not the same, 120 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: but I was so geek with my parents because they 121 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: were like, no, you can't have this, No you can't 122 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: have that. But they felt like a cat with something 123 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: that was fairly easy. And cats are fairly easy to 124 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: take care because they're so independent. Honestly though, but it 125 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: made my day. It also made me so responsible because 126 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: like I was responsible for her vet bill, you know, 127 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: I was responsible for feeding her and making sure that 128 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: she had like you know, wherever she was going to 129 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. But it was just like nice 130 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: to have. I mean, although cats will give you the 131 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: same kind of love, it was nice to have like 132 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: this living, you know, living cute little creature just kind 133 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: of like I love you too. I mean, although cats 134 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: are like I love you too, I get. 135 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: They bless you with their presence. Is this the same 136 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: guy that you said ended up living with the neighbors. 137 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: Yes, well, I mean, to be fair, we did leave 138 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: her kind of higher drive, but still I know. 139 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 140 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: My dad was like, oh well, I was like, no, 141 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: she's like the thing about a cat. It's not like 142 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: a dog. We're like, I'm gonna get my cat and 143 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: bring it back like we tried. The cat was like, girl, 144 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: I don't live with you anymore. I'm still going across 145 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the street, so you know. But it was cute for 146 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: her to let her let us know, like me hourring 147 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: out the window. Can you imagine the gall for us 148 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: to walk by and for her to be out and 149 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: be like, hey girl with her new collar on. I 150 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: was like, so, this is where you lived now, and 151 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: you're just letting me know. I'm good. Don't worry. I 152 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: get fed here. I was like, you know what, it's fine, 153 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: sit there. I wanted to even call her. 154 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: She had to do what was best for her. 155 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: You know. 156 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: She lived her best life. 157 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: Her best when I say her best, because my dad 158 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: was definitely not for an inside cat. I'm like, Daddy, 159 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: they're they're not outside, you know, like they need to 160 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: be inside. He's like no, So I used to just 161 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: have to seek her inside. But she's like, but here, 162 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, they love me inside. So I'm sure she's 163 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: still lived on me and she's still alive. I mean 164 00:06:54,680 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: she was got white people. Yeah, guests were like animals 165 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: do not belong to No, no animals is I was like, Daddy, 166 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: it's cold, So if you weren't here, what would she do? 167 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: She was figured out, like daddy exactly. 168 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: Any new exciting things coming up? 169 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: Oh man, not really. We aren't taking any. I don't 170 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: even want to go there. It's very sad. No trips 171 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: for this no trips for this quarter of my life. 172 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: But I am planning this is I decided this is 173 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: the last year when I'm not the I'm like the 174 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: only person not traveling in August. I'm just sitting at 175 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: work getting everybody's out of office bouncebacks. So I'm only 176 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: going to get my life together and plan a trip 177 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: for August. Yeah, but I'm gonna see my dad in 178 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: April and see my mom in April. So I'm I am, 179 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, putting my family first. 180 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Well that's good. I'm taking two weeks. I mean, I'm 181 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: not gonna like travel travel necessarily, although I am interested 182 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: in maybe doing like a road trip somewhere. I feel 183 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: like I've always wanted to go to like Rhode Island, 184 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: even though I feel like Superman is going to be 185 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: like Rhode Island. I don't know. I want to see 186 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: like some beautiful houses, don't they have to. 187 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 2: I mean growing pains. 188 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to do like a road 189 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: trip somewhere, but I want to, you know, someplace where 190 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: it's like not too far, you know what. I don't 191 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: even know if I want to do a road trip 192 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: because I forgot. Superman can't even drive long distances ever 193 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: since his annuins and surgery. It's like he's not able 194 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: to drive long distances. So that means it's all me, 195 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: I know, which sucks because he used to love driving 196 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: and I don't like driving. So now I'm the designated driver, 197 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: always there and back. He's like, scity, babe, I'll just 198 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: stay awake. Here's the thing about me. If you're driving 199 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: and I'm the passenger, I'm not staying awake. 200 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do it. My husband just like pinches 201 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: me until I wake up, and like that's just not fair. 202 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: Why can't I enjoy life? 203 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: I'm the worst. I'm like, I'm sorry, but like god forbid, 204 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: you are driving with me. I'm like, you better not 205 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: close your eyes. You keep me, you keep me company. 206 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm hoping maybe we'll do like a 207 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: little So I'm gonna take the first two weeks off 208 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: in April just because just and when I mean off, 209 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: just like no work, just wusaw. You know, the house 210 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: is just about finish. We're like literally like tile and 211 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: were finishing the floor and like painting, so like any 212 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: any week now we'll be finally done. So I'll just 213 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: spend time bugging the contractors in there, like to the left, 214 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: to the right, ordering. 215 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: Any Renoult pictures. Where are you chronicling this experience? 216 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just stopped because I was like it was 217 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: depressing for me because I would always be like, this 218 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,599 Speaker 1: is the week, this is not the week. So I'm like, 219 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: at the end you wanted the ugly truth, I'll do 220 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: the big reveal at the end. Okay, So I've been 221 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: taking I haven't like obviously you know, we've been taking pictures. 222 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: But and honestly, it like the other day I thought 223 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: Superman was gonna cry because he was like, this is 224 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: even better than my wildest dreams. And I'm not gonna 225 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: lie now that the like tile has. 226 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 4: Gone in me too, I'm like, wow, my my designer Rihanna, 227 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 4: she and her so like I said, they're like a 228 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 4: chip and Joanna husband wife designed to have a construction 229 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: team and her her husband's name is Jermaine and so 230 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: they have a company called Remain. 231 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that cute? Remain r E m A I N 232 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: Remain Homes. And so sometimes Rihanna would be like, you know, 233 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: because I'm really conservative in like my design choices, She's like, 234 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: well why not look at this? So why not try this? 235 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: And what about this? Siviy And I'd be like no, 236 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: But now that everything's getting put in, I'm like, oh 237 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: my goodness, it looks amazeball. So I'm not even gonna lie, 238 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: like I can't believe this is going to be our house. 239 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I feel like the best advice I got from someone 240 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: was from my business partner, Jabro. He said, Tiffany, when 241 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: I first started, like, you know, doing the renovations, he said, 242 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: do not budget needs to the house. And I was like, 243 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: and I know what he meant. He was like, basically, 244 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm someone who does I take the layed gratification too 245 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: far and I'm always like the next time, the next one, 246 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: the next one. And so he was like, you know, 247 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: you work really hard. You deserve to have a beautiful 248 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: place to live and stay, and you know, like and 249 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time at home because you 250 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: work from home. So just like, get the things that 251 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: you want. I mean obviously you know, don't put yourself 252 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: in financial harms way, but get the things that you want. 253 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: And so I listen to that, and I'm so happy 254 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: because I really don't think we're going to be moving 255 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: anytime soon. 256 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and you also think about what you 257 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: want to come home to, yeah, and what will make 258 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: you feel relaxed, and yeah, I had the same kind 259 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: of conversations with my husband about really investing in the 260 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 2: spaces that were most important and where we spent most 261 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: of our time so that we could really, yeah, just 262 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: be happy and feel like if you're living in the 263 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: house for ten years or whatever, that it's a place 264 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: that you want to come home to. And at a 265 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: certain point forgetting about like a little bit about the 266 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: resale value and will you recoup the investment. No, you're 267 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 2: not going to recoup everything, but yeah, you know, the 268 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: the investment in your mental health and like your space 269 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: for your family. 270 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: It's exciting. 271 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: I can't wait. It is. 272 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: And also to like you know, it's not like you know, 273 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: I'm not some spend spend a haulic. So it's like tifany, 274 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: it's okay and a little bit of boy, like you know, 275 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: it's okay to get the marble instead of the ceramic 276 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: tile here, it's okay, girl, the extra two hundred dollars, 277 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: it's okay, you know, so exactly, and so yeah, I 278 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: can't wait hot to see it. So when it I 279 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: really feel like and it's going to be like less 280 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: than a month, well it'll the shell will be done. 281 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Like you know, we won't have all of our furniture 282 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: stuff becuse we're still ordering because most of the stuff, 283 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: most of the furniture that we live with now is 284 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: like my husband's like bachelor furniture, and he's like, what 285 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: about this. I'm like, babe, what part of almost everything 286 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: is staying? Don't you understand? I don't want your bachelor 287 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: furniture and anything that you want to take with us. 288 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: That's what the man cave is for. He's so sick 289 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: of me saying. He's like the man cave, right, I'm like. 290 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: You got it, just put that on the box. 291 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: Exactly, put that in the man cave. And so he's 292 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: excited about his man cave. Boy, He's like, yes, I've 293 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: got to be able to watch the game loud. I'm 294 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: going to be able to have my friends over. So 295 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: our our our compromise was he could do whatever he 296 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: wants in the man cave far as decorations, you know, 297 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: because I don't really particularly care for his sense of 298 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: style and color. And then I get that. I get 299 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: the rest of it, the rest of the house. Even 300 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: though sometimes he's like, ooh, I think we should put 301 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: I'm like, remember the rule. So he does get one 302 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: veto one like absolutely not. I don't want, you know whatever. 303 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: But for the most part, I mean, you know, because 304 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: my husband's like he likes really bold, loud colors in 305 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: the house and I don't. I'm more of a neutral 306 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: and maybe like the furniture or like the pillows be 307 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: a little bit bold, not the wall color, like like 308 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: little we have a burgundy wall in our house, an 309 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: orange wall, a green wall. Let me see what other 310 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: colors we have. Those colors don't go together in our 311 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: in our current apartment, in our oh no, there was 312 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: that that was not happening in the house. I was like, 313 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: absolutely not so like burgundy, orange, green, I mean, when 314 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: I tell you we have so many colors, we have 315 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: some trim that's chocolate brown. Who why? Why? Why? Why 316 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: is there chocolate brown trimp? Why is that even a thing? 317 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: So I told him he's not allowed to crack his 318 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: lips to make any color choices except for in the basement. 319 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: You can go crazy, sun, you can make this place 320 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: as wildly colorful as you like, because no one's coming 321 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: down here. This belongs to you. 322 00:14:08,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: He's like, okay, fine. 323 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to I'm trying. I was trying to 324 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: find a way to segue to the to the headline 325 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: for the show today, which is auto loane debt, but 326 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: I didn't achieve it. So we're just gonna jump right in, 327 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: yay auto loan debt. So this is something that over 328 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: the years we've covered, I've always covered like auto loan debt. 329 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: You know, auto loan debt has been rising. And what 330 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: you hear when people say, you know, are we reaching 331 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: crisis status with auto loans debt in America? Is it 332 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: as bad as the subprime mortgage crisis, you know that 333 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: precipitated the recession. Is it as bad as a student 334 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: loan debt crisis? And the answer has always been no, 335 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 2: you know, because delinquency rates for auto loans haven't always 336 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: been that bad. And the reason is, and the reason 337 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 2: people's experts will say, is because people need their cars, 338 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: like they're always going to pay their car note, because 339 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: they needed to get to and from their actual job. 340 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: So it's one of these things that while debt has 341 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: been increasing, people haven't been as worried because it hasn't 342 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: become this whole source of delinquency. But I find auto 343 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: loan debt in America, the numbers that we have in 344 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: our most recent Lending Tree analysis of auto loan debt 345 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: just really just caught me off guard, and I wanted 346 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: to spend some time talking about auto loan debt and 347 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: about the car culture that we have in this country, 348 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: and how I genuinely feel like if people treated, if 349 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: people were less willing to take on so much debt 350 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: for their cars, they could so much easier achieve other 351 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: financial goals that they have in life, Like how you 352 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: read those studies all the time that say that Americans 353 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: can't scrounge up four hundred dollars for an emergency, Well, 354 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: the average auto loan in America, the average car note 355 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: in America, it's over five hundred dollars. 356 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I remember I told you that story 357 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: about Superman had a nine hundred dollars car note when 358 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: I met him, remember, and I met it was that much. Yeah, 359 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: and then that didn't include insurance. And I was like, 360 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: so this is this is your house you live, this 361 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: is a mortgage and you live in his house. And 362 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: his excuse was because he worked for the City of 363 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: Newark the site that he lived on, because he was 364 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: like on call, he didn't have to he didn't have 365 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: to pay rent. So he was like, I can splurge 366 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: on my car because I'm not paying rent. And I 367 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: was like, so what happens one day if they're like psych, 368 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to eliminate the own call pard 369 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: and asked you to pay rent. And he was like well, 370 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: and I was like really adamant about it. And so 371 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: he actually had to surrender his car back because I'm like, 372 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: it's just too high. It doesn't make sense. It's too high. 373 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: He had a denialatege one of those big trucks, you know, 374 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: or whatever the current year was, and so he did, 375 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: and sure enough, two months later after he did that 376 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: he they took away that part of his position and 377 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: he had to pay rent. And he was like, and 378 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to say I told you so, 379 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: but I said, I told you, But I just remember, 380 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, you know, Mandy. Up until that, 381 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even know car loans could get as high 382 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: as nine hundred dollars and I couldn't. 383 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: That's like a mortgage payment. That's crazy. 384 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: It's like it is a mortgage payment. I didn't. I'm like, 385 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: how does a salesperson and good conscience tell you they. 386 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: Don't have a conscience. That's not part of their job. 387 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: They when you walk into the dealership, and this is 388 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: a mistake so many people and we'll get into the 389 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: numbers in a minute, but the mistakes so many people 390 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: make when they walk into the dealership is they go 391 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: in with the kind of car that they want, and 392 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: all they want they want the dealer to tell them 393 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: they can have it. And the dealer is more than 394 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: happy to pull strings behind the scenes, getting you all 395 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: kinds of financing from their lender partners to make that happen. 396 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: Because of course, dealers get a kickback from the lenders 397 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 2: in their network in the financing office for selling you 398 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 2: the biggest loan possible. They get a percentage of that, 399 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: so of course they're going to want to get you approved. 400 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: But let's let's talk a little bit about like the 401 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: crisis itself, which I'm going to call it a crisis. 402 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you know, economists don't agree with me, but I 403 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: these numbers are really outstanding to me. So let's start 404 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: with the big picture. Right now, Americans have over one 405 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: point one four trillion dollars worth of auto loan debt 406 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: let that sink in. That's up twenty three percent than 407 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: twenty three the year twenty thirteen. Right now, auto loans 408 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 2: count for about eight percent of outstanding consumer debt. Generation 409 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: x if we can get down to like age level 410 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 2: gen xers. I'm talking to you, not utif, because your exception. 411 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: Gen Xers out of any generation, carry the highest auto 412 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: loan balances with the mean of eighteen thousand, seven hundred dollars. 413 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: But the average list let's focus on this for a second. 414 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 2: The average amount that people are borrowing for a new 415 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: car in the US is nearly thirty thousand dollars, which 416 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: is five thousand dollars more than we were borrowing as 417 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: a country for new cars just a decade ago. 418 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: That I mean, that's crazy for a car, and not 419 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: student loans, not a home, but a car, a car. 420 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: For used cars slightly better, but still nearly twenty thousand dollars. 421 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: That was the average new car loan at the end 422 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen. And what's like another shocking statistics from 423 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: this finding is that people with good credit actually take 424 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: out higher auto loans, like they're more likely to take 425 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: out the big auto loans. So I mentioned, the average 426 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: new car loan, according to our analysis is about thirty 427 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: one thirty thirty thousand, and thirty one thousand dollars. If 428 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: you have a good credit score excellent credit score, you're 429 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: taking out nearly thirty three thousand dollars for a new 430 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: car and nearly twenty two thousand dollars for a used car. 431 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: Because you don't feel it, You're like, who, I've got 432 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: good credit, my interest rate is lower, so your payment 433 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: might be the same as someone who borrowed less, you know, 434 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: but so you're just like, either way, we're both paying 435 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: five hundred. But it psygnosis. At the end of the day, 436 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: you're going to end up paying more. 437 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you when you compare like the rates 438 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: on auto loans to like, say a credit card, it 439 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: does look like a better deal. Okay, so, yeah, I've 440 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: got thirty thirty thousand dollars on an auto loan, but 441 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: my interest rate's only five percent for example, or the 442 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 2: average rate in America right now is seven percent. Yeah, 443 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: that sounds a lot better than you know, a credit card, 444 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: which the average rate is about fifteen or sixteen percent. 445 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: Now that's true. However, the problem is that the length 446 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: of terms that people are getting, so the amount of 447 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: time they sign up to pay back their auto loans 448 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 2: is only getting longer. So even just in the last 449 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: quarter of twenty eighteen, the length of auto loan term 450 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: increased by half a month. So right now people are 451 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: taking out loans for an average sixty eight and a 452 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: half months, which is what is that over six years 453 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: or nearly six years. And what happens is, Yeah, that 454 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: seven percent APR doesn't seem that bad, but you add 455 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: that up over a six year period, and you're adding 456 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of dollars to the original cost of 457 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: your car, which is a depreciating asset in the first place, 458 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: so the value is going down but your loan bill 459 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 2: is going up because of this interest that's accruing. And 460 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: for me, I just don't see the and I'm judging. 461 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: Wedgie was a bear. I know I sound very like 462 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: judging and creachy, but I you know, even if you 463 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 2: have to, like you have to look at a car note, 464 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 2: for me, it was always an extra expense that I 465 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: that in my mind, was taking away from something else 466 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: that I could do with that, you know, three hundred 467 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: four hundred dollars a month. And when my husband and 468 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: I we live in New York City, we didn't necessarily 469 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: need a car for a long time, but finally we 470 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: needed one when we were moving out of the city. 471 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: And when we were looking at cars, we would fight 472 00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 2: about this, you know, what kind of car to gain, 473 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: how much to borrow? And for me, it was about 474 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: getting a reliable car. Of course, you want a reliable car, 475 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: but I was at a minimum wanting like a pre sorry, certified, 476 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: pre owned car. So at least you're walking with with 477 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: a car that's already had its depreciation. You know, it's 478 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: been driven off the lot, someone else paid for it, 479 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: and now you're getting at a lower price, but it's 480 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: still you know, reliable because it's not that old. And 481 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: then I wanted to aggressively paid off as quickly as 482 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: I could because I just didn't want this to be 483 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: a line item on my budget that was taking away 484 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: from other goals that I had. So I'm speaking from experience, 485 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: and I just want wanted to open up the conversation 486 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: just to talk about it and also challenge our listeners 487 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: to look at how much they're spending on their car, 488 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: like go to and I'll share a link to this 489 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: interest loan calculator in the show notes, so you can 490 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: actually punch in how much your auto loan note is 491 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: how many months you have left and your interest rate, 492 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: and see in black and white how much money you're 493 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: going to spend in interest over the years. And you 494 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: might think differently about that car itself. And made me 495 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 2: think about taking to the extreme. Like with Superman, he 496 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: surrendered his car, you said, or he sold it? What 497 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: did he do with his car? 498 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: He well, he's so well basically he they bought it back, 499 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: you know, and he still owed a little bit on it, 500 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 1: you know, so because you know, because the appreciation, So 501 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Let's just say the car was like 502 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars and they bought it back for like 503 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: thirty thousand or thirty five thousand or whatever, and he 504 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: had already made whatever amount of payments, so there might 505 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: have been I think there was probably like a four 506 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: thousand dollar difference or a three or four thousand dollars difference, 507 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: and so he he actually took out like a low 508 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: or no interest loan from his credit union and you know, 509 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: and then paid that, paid the dealership, and then paid 510 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: his credit union back. I think it took about six 511 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: months to pay the credit union back, and then we 512 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: had no car, but we also had no car debt. 513 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: So that's a. 514 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: Good point is when you yeah, because it's the asset itself, 515 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 2: the car is just decreasing in value while you and 516 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: especially if you put down a load down payment, and 517 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: people who have good credit, excellent credit, you can qualify 518 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 2: for those zero percent you know, down no down payment 519 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 2: car loans that it actually exists and are out there 520 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 2: if you have excellent credit. But that means you're just 521 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: taking on more loan debt, and that means that if 522 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: you get in a situation where you want to sell 523 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: that car or you can't afford the payments, anymore and 524 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: you try and sell it or surrender it, you know, 525 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: to the lender, then you may be underwater, which means 526 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 2: that you go like your loan is worth more than 527 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: the car actually is anymore. So that's what happens when 528 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 2: you don't put down a sufficient down payment on a car, 529 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 2: which is I think recommended to it. Well, the classic 530 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: twenty percent rule. Put down a healthy down payment to 531 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: at least cover whatever that first year's depreciation is to 532 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: put you in a position where you're not like underwater. 533 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: And so you know, you like, you know, obviously he 534 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, he lives and he learns, but I'm not 535 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna lie. It took a long time for him to 536 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: get it because like he wanted his truck back. So 537 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: that because you know, my husban and it's tall, so 538 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: you know, you know husby, your husband is tall. You know, 539 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: they love that idea of a truck. Don't think testlla. 540 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: If I hear the word tesla one more time and 541 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: he will not to this day, Tesla, he points it 542 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: out in the street. I'm like, we are not getting 543 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: a forty five sixty thousand dollars whatever it is like car. 544 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 2: We have no car debt I'm like, that's a good 545 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: place to be. Look at this thing in my driveway. 546 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: It's an asset to me. I sell it, I own 547 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 2: the title, I get the cash. You know, that's to 548 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: me an asset, and I look at that as an extra, 549 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 2: you know, five hundred dollars we can be putting toward 550 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: our savings or vacation the house. You know, people want 551 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: to say, how did you get a house? Yes, there's 552 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: other you know, I've obviously been saving for a long time. 553 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: But I think being so hell bent on not accruing 554 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: a lot of unnecessary debt also helped. 555 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that's the thing that worries me 556 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: about folks the most. You know, what we do with 557 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: financial education is that I don't think that there's enough 558 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: hesitancy on creating new debt, Isn't it doesn't it seem 559 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: strange right that people people like will literally have And 560 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm not judging, I mean, because I've been here. You know, 561 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: you'll sign up for a couch bill, a TV bill, 562 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: a blender bill, and so that's anytime you swipe your 563 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 1: card for like, oh I'm gonna buy this, I'm gonna 564 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: buy that, and without the intention of paying it off 565 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: in full. When the bill comes you have like you 566 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: have a now you have a dress bill and a 567 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: comforter bill, and and so accruing all of this debt. 568 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: And I mean it was one of the things like 569 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: when I don't you know, I don't. I guess it's because, 570 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: like you know, just from my dad and growing up 571 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: and just being like really preached to about the dangers 572 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: of debt. That one of the things I did when 573 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: I moved out was really to be mindful of is 574 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 1: this going to add an additional debt to my monthly 575 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, my monthly payments, and just being like, well, 576 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: how can I how can I get the thing? So 577 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: I always think this, how can I get the thing 578 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: without the monthly payment? You know? Does that mean waiting? 579 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: Does that mean saving? I mean the car that I 580 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: have now, you know, like it's much nicer. But every 581 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: car I've ever I've never had a car. Note first 582 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: car I think I bought for like under five thousand dollars. 583 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: Moved home right after college. I saved, save, save, and 584 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: I bought that car from like a used car lot 585 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: or the auction and it was a you know, good condition. 586 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: It was maybe like three or four years old. It 587 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: was a ninety nine Nissan Ultima, and I rolled that car. 588 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: It had two hundred and sixteen thousand miles on it, 589 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: damn and then and it was still going strong because 590 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, also last forever. And then someone actually I 591 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: had that car parked outside of my parents' house, and 592 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: someone crashed into it and destroyed it. And then the 593 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: insurance company, Shocker, which I was actually shocked, that gave 594 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: me four thousand dollars for it because it was And 595 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: so with that four thousand, you know what I did, 596 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: I went back to the I went to my mechanic 597 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: had a used car. He had at the time a 598 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: ninety nine camera, which by then there was like a 599 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: ten year old car, and so cause it was like 600 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine by then, so I bought the 601 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: Camri and I rolled that camera up until two years ago, 602 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: and that camera had almost two hundred thousand miles on it. 603 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: And then I had saved enough because I knew the 604 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: CA memory was like the camera didn't last as long 605 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: as the Ultimo, and I knew it was like on 606 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: this last leg. So I had been saving, saving savings, 607 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: and now now I've got a I don't know like 608 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: a twenty seventeen a Lincoln MKZ, And so when I 609 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: bought the Lincoln, it was like a year and a 610 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: half old to two years old, so that was significantly more. 611 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: The first car was five thousand, and second cars four. 612 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: The Lincoln. I think they wanted like twenty six or 613 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: twenty seven thousand, but I had cash, so I paid 614 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty two thousand. But it was, like you said, Mandy, 615 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: to your point, it was certified pre owned. And thank god, 616 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: because there were some issues with the Lincoln that like 617 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 1: you know, I guess came before I knew and so, 618 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: but and I've gotten that car fixed a couple of times. 619 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: They finally they actually had to like almost like rebuild 620 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: my engine because something happened to it. And I was like, 621 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: that's not my problem. I bought a certified pri O 622 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: onn y'all should have checked it. So they basically gave 623 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: me a brand new engine and it cost me nothing 624 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: because it was certified pre owned. And so, like you know, 625 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: for the first time and like a long time, I 626 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: have like a decent looking car, because the other cars 627 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: were not cute. But I have a decent look at car. 628 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: But I also don't have a car note in the 629 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: same way we bought our houses. I know everyone can't 630 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: buy a house in a car in cash, but you know, 631 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: one of the things I think about when it comes 632 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: to money is is this going to add an additional 633 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: payment to my life? And can it be avoided? Can 634 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: it be avoided through patients? Can it be avoided through savings? 635 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: Can it be avoided through strategic like, you know, strategically 636 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: managing my money? And sometimes it can't be Like I 637 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: went to school and I had my my you know, 638 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: suit of loans, I couldn't avoid it. But there are 639 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: areas in your life that you can avoid adding another 640 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: payment to your list because it eats away at your 641 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: day to day And like, I don't know, I don't 642 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm despite like Superman and I being 643 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: like grown I think I want to say Mandy that 644 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: our collective bills for every this doesn't include like what 645 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: we do to help family members. Last time I checked people, 646 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: it's like twenty five hundred dollars is how much our 647 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: life costs us with groceries, with bills, with everything for 648 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: two adults in a Supergirl twenty five hundred dollars And 649 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: that's it. Because I'm mindful of like collecting bills and 650 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: so I encourage that of you. Yes, as the budget's 651 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: got make way more money, But I was doing that 652 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: when I was a preschool teacher making next to nothing. 653 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: So it's possible at different levels of life. But you 654 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: have to be mindful and you have to be willing 655 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: not to have you know, what everyone else seems to 656 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: have upfront and being okay with that. Like I had 657 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: to learn not to put so much stock in like 658 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: not to put so much stock and stuff, you know. 659 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my husband comes from like a Dominican family, 660 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: and the car, the car culture is it's a status symbol. 661 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: When we got our little pre owned certified pre owned 662 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, mas to c X five a few years ago, 663 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, his mother wanted him to 664 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: like take her to Bingo, drive her around the neighborhood 665 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: so she can so they can see how, you know, 666 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: how successful her son is in the car. And uh, 667 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: you know, that's just like a toxic it's a it's 668 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: that pressure to get what you can't afford, you know, 669 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: But come on, we're all grown ups or anyway, and 670 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: you should be able to resist the temptation and just 671 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: think about don't think about what you can't have, think 672 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: about what you can can do, can save if you 673 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: were you know, less, I don't know, just more willing 674 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 2: to buy a car that's not as expensive, or maybe 675 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: even a car that you can pay you know, fifty 676 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: percent down and then have a lower car. Note, people 677 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: need cars, like I'm not I'm not an idiot. You know, 678 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: my mom raised four kids. She needed a car to 679 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 2: get around, but she drove that beat up Windstar BENI 680 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: Van for like a long ass time, you know. And 681 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: I understand that people need cars, but you don't need 682 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: to take out thirty thousand dollars worth of debt to 683 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: get one. And let's switch for a second, because people 684 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: are borrowing money for cars at an increasing rate, but 685 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: they're also getting financing from the dealer at an alarming 686 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: rate too, which is like, ah, I wish I could 687 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: just stand outside of every car dealership and just say 688 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: no or just like come here, don't come until you 689 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: got your own financing. But here are some numbers. So 690 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: for new cars, nearly or over fifty percent of people 691 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 2: buying new cars or getting their financing at the dealership, 692 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: and this is the new car financing again, is that's 693 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: thirty one thousand dollars for a new car you're financing 694 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: at the dealer. For used cars, most people are actually 695 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 2: getting their financing from a bank, which is good. I 696 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 2: wonder if that's because people who buy used cars are 697 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: already thinking of how to save money and are more 698 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: likely to go to the bank to do so. Yeah, 699 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: So let's talk about like what happens when you go 700 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 2: to the dealership. If you have not already shopped around 701 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 2: and gotten financing offers from whatever bank you have your 702 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: local credit union near you, and you're walking into that dealership, 703 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: it's going to be difficult for you to walk out 704 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 2: without getting the financing because you're going to fall in 705 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: love with that car. They're going to try and sell 706 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: you on all these you know, bells and whistles. Maybe 707 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: they'll say no down payment. Maybe they'll say, oh, we'll 708 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 2: throw in extended warranty or whatever or maintenance for a year, 709 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 2: and then they're going to get you a dealership or sorry, 710 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 2: I find deal with one of their lender partners. It's 711 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: almost always going to be worse than what you could 712 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 2: have gotten through a credit union or even just any 713 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: bank outside of the dealership, So before you go, before 714 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: you go shop and compare financing deals, I will shout 715 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: out lending Tree where you can shop and compare auto loans. 716 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: Also you can do it at Magnify Money, or you 717 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 2: can just do it your darn self by like going online. 718 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: My husband and I just did went to lightstream dot com, 719 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 2: which is a great you know, online only lender that 720 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 2: offers good rates if you got good credit. We went 721 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 2: in with that light Stream financing offer. I also went 722 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: to a credit Union USAA got a financing offer from 723 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 2: then to compared them, light Streams was better, and we 724 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 2: took our pretty butts down to the used car lot. 725 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: And this is the thing, like, when the dealer saw 726 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: that we had our own financing, they spent like maybe 727 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: twenty minutes in the office trying to get their lender, 728 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: who happened I think to be capital one to match 729 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: our rate. I think it was something crazy low. This 730 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: was a few years ago when rates were a little 731 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: bit lower. I think it was like three percent or 732 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: something around there, and they managed to get it like 733 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: a teeny tiny bit less than what our lender had. 734 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: But I don't think they would have done that. They 735 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: definitely wouldn't have had an incentive to How do we 736 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: not shown up with our financing? So bring your own financing, 737 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: even if you can't pay it off. 738 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: You know, Yes, I'm telling you like credit unions are 739 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: bay too. 740 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 2: Oh more than they like. I was a little sad 741 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 2: to see. So we're talking about new cars. Only where 742 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: is this only fourteen percent of people are going to 743 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: credit unions? Why love your credit union. They're there for 744 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: you, you know, they're there for used cars. It was a 745 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: little bit higher again, about fifteen percent, or sorry, even higher, 746 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: about thirty percent of people buying used cars or going 747 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: to their credit union. So people buying used cars clearly 748 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: have done their research, are buying used cars because they 749 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 2: probably know it's not worth it to buy new, and 750 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: also to bring their own financing to the table. Only 751 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 2: what is this? Only about nine percent of people are 752 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: getting dealer financing when they're buying used cars. So snaps for. 753 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: Y'all, Yes, come prepare, do your research. I remember, honestly 754 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: so my sister Tracy, she was needing a car because 755 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: her job was far from where she lived, and she's like, 756 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: I really can't get like a putt putt. And I 757 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: remember telling her like okay, and I think, you know, 758 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: I did convince her to get something that was just 759 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: like a year a year or so old, not so 760 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: not brand new, but definitely not you know, not old. 761 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: And then I remember telling her because she was like, 762 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: I told her, bringing your own financing and I send 763 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: her to you know, lending Tree, and she was like 764 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: it was just such a great tool to find different 765 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: places where she could qualify based upon her credit score. 766 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: I had given her a bunch of questions ask based 767 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: upon her credit score to really find the best lender 768 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: for her, and she felt really confident going in like Okay, 769 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: this is the best rate that I'm gonna get. I 770 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: know exactly how much I'm gonna borrow, and it just 771 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: made her feel more confident. I mean, it wasn't ideal. 772 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: She would have loved to you know, buy a car 773 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: and cash, which she was like, I can't get a 774 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: five six year old car. I'm driving too many miles 775 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: a day. The car needs to be in like really 776 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: tip top, great condition. And so I was proud of her. 777 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think with our car we got, I think 778 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 2: our car was like eighteen thousand dollars and we paid 779 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 2: half down and then the next year. We aggressively paid 780 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 2: it off until it was gone. And you know, if 781 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: I had used the our with our rate being so low, 782 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: we could have waited longer. Because you know, if you 783 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: have higher interest debt compared to your auto loan, it 784 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: may make sense, does It does make sense to focus 785 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 2: on aggressively paying down that debt first. So if you 786 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 2: got your auto loan and you've got credit cards that 787 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 2: are like fifteen percent but your auto loan is six percent, yeah, 788 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 2: it makes sense to throw what you can at your 789 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 2: credit card debt first. But don't sleep on the auto 790 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 2: alone either. 791 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: That's a think and. 792 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: It will creep up on you. And there's things you 793 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 2: can do. So let's say, you know, when you got 794 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: your auto loan a few years ago, your credit score 795 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: was not so great, and now it's improved. You can 796 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 2: look at refinancing, applying for a new loan, using it 797 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: to pay off your own loan, but at a better rate. 798 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 2: You can even refinance it to a shorter term if 799 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: you can afford the higher payments, and that way you're 800 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 2: not paying so much over the life of the loan, 801 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: or just you know, make it one of your challenges 802 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: to aggressively pay off your auto loan debt in twenty 803 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 2: nineteen or in the next couple of years. If you 804 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 2: have friends who are just drowning an auto loan debt, 805 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: you know, talk to them too and see if there's 806 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: anything they can do, maybe refinance or trade it in. 807 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: Be careful about trading in. Sometimes it's you don't usually 808 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: get the best value for the car that you're trading in. 809 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, if you. 810 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: Are, especially if you're underwater on your auto loans, sometimes 811 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: you just have to bite the bullet go. Superman did 812 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: pay the difference. That's very smart what he did, like 813 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 2: taking out the it's like he was dating the budgetiese 814 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 2: there or something. 815 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: He was under extreme durnt taking out that personal loan. Yeah, 816 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't he wasn't happy about it, but 817 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: now he totally gets it. It's hard when. 818 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: He's sitting in that man KF you'll be happy what 819 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: it was. 820 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, honestly, it wasn't until like I would 821 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: always be frad when I went away on a business 822 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,479 Speaker 1: trip that I was going to come back to another 823 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: truck in the driveway. And it wasn't until that, like 824 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: we really started looking for a house that he finally 825 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: made the connection of us being able to afford a 826 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: house that want and how not having this car note 827 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: made that possible. Then he stopped because literally, I mean 828 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: I would like, you know how like you know, you 829 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: might look at your man's like phone and you're like, oh, 830 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 1: you already know, like the search history might be porn. 831 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: His search history was truck's, truck's, trucks, truckt truck. I mean, 832 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: it was crazy. I'm like, you're obsessed. He's like, no, 833 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: I just I just feel like I just and I 834 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: would literally be like, he's gonna he's gonna buy a truck. 835 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 1: I can't do anything about it. He's gonna randomly buy 836 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: a truck and put its back, you know, in the 837 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: dark ages where we were just left from. And like 838 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 1: I said, it wasn't until he started going house shopping 839 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: that he was like, ah, got it because at the 840 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: time we thought we're gonna get a mortgage. And you know, 841 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: if he would have had a car note, we would 842 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: have been approved for way less and it just it 843 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: opened up his to like, got it. It's not deprivation 844 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: of you're not getting a truck, it's you open yourself 845 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: up to opportunities to be able to get things that 846 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: you that mean even more to you than that car. 847 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: And so now actually just like now, I was like, okay, babe, 848 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: you know, we bought two properties. You know, everybody in 849 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: our family is good, like you know, you should, you know, 850 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,839 Speaker 1: go ahead and get whatever you know, truck or car 851 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: you want. And you know, we like went through our 852 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: budget and like how much the payment should be. And honestly, 853 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: it's like pulling teeth. He's like, nah's let's get one 854 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: more place. Let's get one more And I'm like, cause, 855 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: I mean he he my my husband is driving because 856 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: I was going to give away my my my camera, 857 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: you know that that four thousand dollars camera that I bought. No, 858 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: he like he likes fixing things up, and so he 859 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: fixed it up and that's what he's driving. I'm like, babe, 860 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: you can, you can, you know, go ahead, we have 861 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're okay. Now we've we've reached our goals. 862 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to drive this car. And he's like, honestly, 863 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: I really want for us to get a small apartment building, 864 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: like anywhere from four to eight units. I want to 865 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: focus on that. And I'm like, ah, who are you? 866 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: Because that was not the man that I met who 867 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: was going to get a truck every other week. And 868 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: so I love that that, you know that, you know, 869 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: it's it's when you focus on goals about what you 870 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: want to achieve versus just like kind of like the 871 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: stuff that you want to have, the conversation shifts, you know. 872 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: Yep, Well that's it for your auto loan lecture from me. 873 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 2: Hopefully that wasn't too too painful. Well, I you know, 874 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: I think it's something worth talking about. Maybe it's not 875 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 2: gonna it's not going to crush the economy the same 876 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 2: way the housing crisis did, but I think it's slowly 877 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 2: it's just slowly chipping away at people's potential, you know, 878 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,240 Speaker 2: for what they can accomplish and save and put away. 879 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: And when you save, you are free. You know, you're 880 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: free to make decisions. You're free to make better choices 881 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: for yourself because you don't have that. You don't have 882 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: to turn to debt and you don't have to, you know, 883 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 2: stay the job you hate if you have savings saved up. 884 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: So take a look at your car stavement. I'll put 885 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 2: a link to a calculator. Everyone can use to to 886 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 2: kind of calculate how much they're paying on their auto loan. 887 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: And you know, feel free to sendence your question if 888 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 2: you have questions about anything we talked about on the show. 889 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,240 Speaker 2: Maybe we should talk about credit card debt later or next, 890 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: because let me tell you, credit card debt is also 891 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: on the rise in a major way. In a major, 892 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 2: major way. People are feeling very confident in themselves in 893 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,280 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. 894 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: Cool. So, now that we flooded you with all of 895 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: our dope car car note chat, let's take some of 896 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: your questions. Let's maybe just a couple, because I know 897 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: we did a lot of financial like. 898 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 2: Coaching. Yes we won't say nagging or lecturing a couple 899 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: of Oh we have some, we have some, you know, 900 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: good little questions. So again, you guys can send us 901 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 2: your questions. Hit us up at Brownhambition podcast dot com okay, 902 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 2: or go to them. 903 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my reflext is aren't where they used to. 904 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 2: Be, Okay, and hit ask us anything or shoot us 905 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: an email directly at broad Ambition Podcasts at gmail dot. 906 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: Com dot com. 907 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: Here are a couple of questions. So here's an easy 908 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 2: one from listener Marlee. She wants to know. How do 909 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: you transfer money from one bank like Bank of America 910 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 2: to an online bank account without paying a fee? O? 911 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: Good one. Mark's for Marlee dope name lucky, So I know, 912 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: so I have, Well, I'm not going to tell you 913 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: the bank that I have, the brick and mortar bank. 914 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: They're the worst. Sorry, So I'll have a bank, let's 915 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: call it Mark. But the Mark Bank. Mark Bank charges 916 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: to transfer out right, because you know, Mark Bank is 917 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: the worst, that's what the worst does. But I also 918 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: have Ally, who I love. Hey. Alli. Ally does not 919 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: charge to retrieve or send money. So instead, what you 920 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: could just do is go to the bank that doesn't charge, 921 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: like typically the online only bank doesn't charge. But you 922 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: definitely want to check. So whenever I'm trying to transfer money, 923 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: I actually go to Ally does the transfering for me. 924 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: So Ally will will go to Mark Bank and take money, 925 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: or Ally will transfer money into Mark Bank, and then 926 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: Mark Bank doesn't have to have a say because the 927 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: Ally Bank doing the work and they don't charge for 928 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: that work. 929 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 2: Also, have you ever used zel I do? 930 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: I have? 931 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 2: My husband and I have done this. There's been times 932 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 2: where I needed to transfer money because we both have 933 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: we have some Chase credit cards that we each have 934 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: a Chase checking account too, not that you need one, 935 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 2: but we just happen to have one. And the way 936 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 2: that we transfer money is well. First of all, some 937 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 2: banks have but bank to bank transfers should be free 938 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 2: and pretty easy to do through the app. But then 939 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 2: a lot of these big banks all are in the 940 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 2: Zell network where which allows you to send money like 941 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 2: to So let's say Tiffany has Bank ABC and I 942 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 2: have Bank x Y Z if they're both using Zel, 943 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: I can instantly transfer money to Tiffany through Zel without 944 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 2: incourring any fees, and Zell is free. The only you know, 945 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: with any of these payment things or even you know 946 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 2: things like Chase Quick Pay, you just have to read 947 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: very carefully the protection and make sure that you're sending 948 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,959 Speaker 2: the protection terms and make sure that you're sending money 949 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: to someone that you know, because some of these services 950 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: may not cover you in case of fraud if you've 951 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 2: initiated the transfer yourself. That's what we found in our research. 952 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 2: So if you're the one sending the money and you're like, oh, yeah, 953 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 2: I know this is Tiffany's email address, and I've got 954 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 2: it correct and you send it her a way and 955 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 2: it ends up not being her, ends up being a 956 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 2: scammer who you know gave you her email with one 957 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 2: letter different. Then you may be on the hook or 958 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: never get back those fun so just be careful. There's 959 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 2: all kinds of different apps theres I can send a 960 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 2: list of a roundup. There's things like pop Money that 961 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 2: was around I think it's still around today. There's a 962 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,399 Speaker 2: circle Circle app. There's a zillion different ways. There's good 963 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 2: old Venmo. So if you're just trying to split the 964 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: bill with a friend and you want to transfer money 965 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: from your bank account to their pocket, you both have 966 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 2: a Venmo account and then you just send the money 967 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 2: through your account. It debits your checking account that's linked 968 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 2: and goes to their bank. And I use Venmo to 969 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 2: pay to even just give tips when I've gone to 970 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 2: the hair salon or something and they I don't have 971 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,319 Speaker 2: cash on me, I'll like Venmo tema tip. So it 972 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 2: makes it super easy. 973 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: Look at that. See yeah, well I always different. Yeah, 974 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: all these different options, So Marley, you should be good 975 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 1: on good, good on good. 976 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 2: And here is a question from listener Kendall. Oh she's funny, 977 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 2: Kendall says, I've never posted a question for a podcast before. 978 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 2: I honestly can't help but think that I shouldn't send 979 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 2: you guys a question because you two are amazing brown, 980 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: ambitious women and im and I'm not. I am a 981 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 2: half Mexican, half Caucasian, twenty six year old, stay at 982 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 2: home mom. I was adopted by a white couple when 983 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 2: I was a baby, so I've mainly identified as Caucasian 984 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: my whole life. I get asked, what are you saying. 985 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 2: I've been told that I look exotic, which just makes 986 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 2: me feel gross, so I've always checked Caucasian for race. 987 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed by that because I feel like I should 988 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: be proud of who I am. My question is actually 989 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 2: about my finances. Oh, but let's address this first part. Yeah, honey, 990 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 2: you don't have to like you're not brown enough, because 991 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 2: you know, society has made it easier for you to 992 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 2: move through circles by just, you know, checking that Caucasian box. 993 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 2: But I feel you on that one hundred percent. I 994 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 2: think you're only twenty six, like, I think it's time 995 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 2: for you to figure out who you are and if 996 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 2: learning more about your Mexican roots is important to you. 997 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 2: There's so much you can do do you? And I 998 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 2: mentioned the Queer Eye earlier. If anyone's watched this recent season, 999 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 2: there's actually a really good episode. Oh you should watch this, Kendall. 1000 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: Go to the episode with Jess. They give this the 1001 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 2: young girl in Missouri named Jess a makeover. She's an 1002 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 2: African American woman who was adopted by an African American family, 1003 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 2: but always liked things that black people in her life 1004 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 2: told her weren't black enough. 1005 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,840 Speaker 1: So she liked. 1006 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: Music that they didn't like. You know, she liked rock 1007 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 2: music and that was seen as not black enough. And 1008 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: she now and she's also a lesbian and she's gravitated 1009 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,279 Speaker 2: towards the circle of friends who are LGBTQA, and that 1010 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: really embraced her. But what she's what she felt like 1011 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,439 Speaker 2: she lost was her African American roots, and she felt 1012 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: like she wasn't allowed to explore her black identity because 1013 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: she'd always been told by that by black society or 1014 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 2: like people in her life that she wasn't black enough. 1015 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 2: Now the show, it's really beautiful because there's a moment 1016 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 2: where where one of the one of the makeover people, Caramo, 1017 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 2: takes her to Alvin Eagley Dance Center in her neighborhood, 1018 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 2: in a in a part of town that celebrates black 1019 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 2: culture and just shows her that all she has to 1020 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: do is start researching, start you know, investing, not investigating, 1021 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 2: but start exploring things in her in her neighborhood, you know, 1022 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 2: black owned businesses, black owned theater and arts events and 1023 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 2: things like that, to really start tapping into that part 1024 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 2: of her identity. And I'm on a lunch bill right now. 1025 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 2: But you don't have to wait for permission to explore 1026 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,280 Speaker 2: your Latina side at all, exactly. 1027 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: And it's awesome, honestly, It's just it's an in addition 1028 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: to your Caucasian side. So you know, you're it's like 1029 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: double trouble, you know. And so you know, it's much 1030 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: or as little as you feel comfortable with. At the 1031 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's your life. You get to decide. 1032 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: But so I just think that that's an awesome addition. 1033 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, but what's her question? 1034 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 2: Owned The question is, so she mentioned she's a stay 1035 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 2: at home mom twenty six, she wants to know what 1036 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 2: is the best way to go about saving and being 1037 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 2: financially responsible when planning for baby number two. Number two. 1038 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 2: Damn girl, oh. 1039 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: Child, we were just talking about the head of the game. 1040 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 1: But you know what you're gonna be like forty something 1041 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: years old with grown kids and poppen Like, well, my 1042 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: kids are at the house, I'm about to travel even 1043 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: more now. 1044 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: So, like you know, I'm a little jealous of that 1045 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: topap I am. 1046 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: So what could she do to start preparing? Now? 1047 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 2: This is a strategy that I've heard when I've done 1048 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 2: stories on the same topic, and it's to immediately start 1049 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: saving half your income and living off the other half 1050 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 2: and whatever you need to do to get to a 1051 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 2: place where you can achieve that balance. That'll help you 1052 00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 2: prepare for like the financial impact of having a child. 1053 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 2: And in your case, this will be your second child. 1054 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: So try that and see how it works. And you've 1055 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 2: already had the experience, more experience than we have because 1056 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 2: we don't have a well you have a stepdaughter, but anyway, 1057 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 2: don't have first baby yet. But you maybe know what 1058 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 2: your monthly expenses have been to raise your first childs. 1059 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: Maybe you could take a look at how much you 1060 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: were spending on average and your first child's you know, 1061 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,520 Speaker 2: first six to twelve months of life, and then start 1062 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: getting used to setting that money aside, so you have 1063 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,879 Speaker 2: a bit of a cushion in place already before number 1064 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: two comes along. 1065 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Honestly, from what I understand for parents with multiples, 1066 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: like you can never save enough, and so if you 1067 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: can save, you know, as much as you can, like 1068 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,360 Speaker 1: Manby said, before your bundle of joy, your second bundle 1069 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: of joy gets here, that's just going to help you. 1070 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 1: And Also, two of what I've heard from parents, because 1071 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm one of five, is that like there's like, and 1072 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know because you have your first one, 1073 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 1: it's like some magical door opens up and you figure 1074 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: it out, you know where, like you're like, oh my gosh, 1075 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: money's so tight. How could I say? I've got you know, 1076 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: this one? And then two comes and somehow you're managing 1077 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: to feed the two. And so you know, lean into 1078 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: the fact that you know that parents typically figure out 1079 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: a way, and you know you don't have to wait 1080 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: for the baby to get here to open up that 1081 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: magic and say, Okay, what are some things that we 1082 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: really don't necessarily need? Parents sometimes, especially with the first one, 1083 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: are typically overspending on things that the kids really don't 1084 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,759 Speaker 1: care about as much as you think you know, like 1085 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 1: I remember when my sister. My sister has two little 1086 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: ones cut off her cable and at first she was like, 1087 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know the kids are going. I'm like, 1088 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: first of all, the baby is like one and a 1089 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 1: half and your oldest oldest child is like three. He 1090 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: doesn't know what cable is, YouTube what? And like when 1091 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 1: I tell you, those kids are like, there's this little 1092 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: channel called Little Baby Bomb, which is a weird name, 1093 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 1: but whatever, but they love that Little Baby Bomb and 1094 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: then Netflix. I gave her my Netflix password. Those kids 1095 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: don't know nothing about cable. So there's a lot of things. 1096 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like that parents kind of like impose 1097 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: financially on their kids, like oh, my kid needs this, 1098 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,240 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, Honestly, here's the thing about kids. 1099 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as normal. Whatever life they're living 1100 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 1: is normal. If everything your house was pink, your kids 1101 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 1: would think pink was the way everybody lived. If you 1102 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: only ate broccoli all day, your kids would think everybody 1103 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 1: only eats broccoli. Like, you get to normalize what's normal. 1104 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: So you know, if you normalize frugality, your kids won't 1105 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 1: know any different until they get like to middle school 1106 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,200 Speaker 1: and the rest of the kids are like, what girl, 1107 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: you need to see a five chicken on Fridays. That's 1108 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 1: what I found out that people had fried chicken because 1109 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: my mother was like super healthy and I was like, ugh, 1110 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,400 Speaker 1: what their skin on chicken? And it's delicious, That's what. 1111 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: But I say all that to say is that, like, 1112 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, like create an environment where frugal and fun 1113 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: is normal and save as much as you can. 1114 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he says hand me downs from baby number one. 1115 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: Hope you still got them? Yes, good luck kind of 1116 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 2: and thanks for your question. All right, guys again Brandon 1117 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,719 Speaker 2: Mission Podcast at gmail dot com or hit us up 1118 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 2: at Brandimission podcast dot com with your questions. 1119 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: Yes, now it's time for our booster break for all 1120 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: the family. Will you boost? Will you break? Which one? 1121 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: Will it be? Mandy? 1122 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 2: You should write that down for next time. It's gone 1123 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 2: already my own royalty to Disney. But we won't y'all 1124 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 2: won't tell. 1125 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: To break. 1126 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a break, a brown break. I'm having 1127 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 2: a little moment in my millennialness of just being outraged 1128 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 2: by our recycling culture, and I feel like I need 1129 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 2: to talk about it, So of course I try, you know, 1130 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 2: when you have a dog as a good neighbor, you 1131 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 2: pick up when your dog goes number two, and a 1132 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 2: little baggy for dogs number two is a poop bag, 1133 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 2: shall we say. And I knew I was like going 1134 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 2: to be throwing away at least three poop bags a day, Okay, 1135 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it would be like six because Molly, 1136 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what that girl eats, but she anyway, 1137 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 2: she goes a lot, but these poop bags. So I 1138 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 2: decided I was going to invest in like biodegradable bags 1139 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 2: that aren't that expensive, so I got them on Amazon. 1140 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 2: But that would actually, I don't know, not hurt the environment. 1141 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 2: Just plastic. I don't know. If you read about plastic 1142 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 2: and how bad it is for any winding up in 1143 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 2: oceans and it's getting stuck up turtle's nose and all 1144 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: kinds of stuff. Plastic is bad. I thought I was 1145 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 2: doing a good job, but then of course you read 1146 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 2: I start reading on the internets about how first of all, 1147 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 2: some companies if they're selling biodegradable and this goes beyond 1148 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,240 Speaker 2: just doggy poop bags, but like biodegradable utensils and plastic 1149 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,080 Speaker 2: or not plastic, but biodegradable plates and things like that, 1150 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 2: disposable things, they're not always actually just you know, actually 1151 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 2: composting and landfills and there actually can be hurting landfills 1152 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 2: and being bad for the environment. On top of that, 1153 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm reading also research that's shown that like not research 1154 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: that's shown, but did you realize in America most of 1155 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,359 Speaker 2: our recycling we sell it to China, Like a ton 1156 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 2: of recycling, We just sell it to China or or 1157 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 2: countries overseas. And what's happening is China recently said no, no, no, ma'am, 1158 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 2: we don't have any space for America's trash anymore, so 1159 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 2: we're not buying it anymore. So where is our recycling going? 1160 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 2: You know, when we reparate, when we separate things in 1161 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 2: our day to day lives, is it really going where 1162 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 2: it's meant to be going. Is it actually being recycled 1163 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 2: or is it ending up back in landfills? I want 1164 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 2: to know. And my ten year old self who watched 1165 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 2: that episode of Arthur when Francine's dad took them to 1166 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,319 Speaker 2: the you know where he worked as a garbage man 1167 00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 2: and showed them making playgrounds out of their trash, Like 1168 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 2: I want to know where these playgrounds are, and I 1169 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 2: want to know that that we're not just contributing to this. 1170 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. This is like environmental crisis, and that 1171 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,919 Speaker 2: is my my break. I have no answers. I only 1172 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 2: have I'm just now getting woke about trash and where 1173 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 2: it actually goes. 1174 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to watch. 1175 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 2: I need to compost. I've heard I need to like 1176 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 2: dig a hole in my backyard and the best way 1177 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 2: to get rid of dog business is by digging digging 1178 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 2: a hole in the backyard. I'm like, my backyard is 1179 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,120 Speaker 2: not big enough. That's going to be reeking. So I 1180 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 2: don't know what to do. 1181 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, honestly, I remember I was part of the 1182 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: environmental club when I was like in middle school in 1183 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 1: high school, and I felt so hopeful, and I'm like, 1184 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: we're still here. 1185 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 2: Barely. I don't know. I just feel like we're going 1186 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:39,280 Speaker 2: to have a trash reckoning people. 1187 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what I mean, that we're still here, 1188 00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: still dealing with the same things. Yeah, Like I was 1189 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: like wow, because you know, I was like, Yay, we're 1190 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: doing these things where you know, we're trying really hard, 1191 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: We're going to see a difference. And I'm like, oh 1192 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 1: not so much. So I actually I have two booths, 1193 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: so one boost is like a little fun one. Well, 1194 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 1: they're both fun one Bet Black Entertainment Television. If you're 1195 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: not following them on IG, you should because they're doing 1196 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: this fun series called I was a Soul Trained dancer. 1197 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 1: And it's not like you I never thought about it. 1198 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,399 Speaker 1: I mean I watched Soul Trained as a kid, I guess, 1199 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 1: I mean I vaguely remember. But it's just this like 1200 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,440 Speaker 1: like a series of short documentaries on I guess like 1201 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: iconic soul trained dancers, And honestly, it's really nice to 1202 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: learn about how do they get on soul Train? What 1203 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: are they doing now? And it's nice because you know, 1204 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 1: sometimes BT is not the best programming and so what 1205 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 1: I love is like in the comments, people are reminiscing, 1206 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: people are like, oh, I remember that guy. It's just 1207 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: so if you need a little boost, a little a 1208 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 1: little brown boost. Actually, you know, head over to BET's 1209 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: IG page. It's just b ET and you know, watch 1210 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: some of those videos. They've been really nice to watch. 1211 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 1: But my big brown boost goes to Jessica Nabongo. Hey, 1212 00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: jess her IG is the catch me if you can 1213 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: and Jessica is on her way. She just was like 1214 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 1: highlighted by Good Morning America. She is the very first 1215 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 1: black woman to she's gonna be the very first black 1216 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: woman to visit every single country. I guess she's right 1217 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: on the cusp right now. Yeah, it's't not crazy. Every 1218 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: single country. There's a hundred to one hundred and ninety 1219 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: five yep. I was about to say one hundred and 1220 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 1: ninety five countries. And I just think that that's really cool. 1221 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: I've been following her on I've been following her on 1222 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 1: IG and I honestly her pictures are obviously, you know, 1223 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 1: just gorgeous, and yeah, I'm just it's just really cool 1224 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: to see someone who has taken travel kind of like 1225 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: to the next level, and that she'll be the first 1226 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: black woman to do this. 1227 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 2: You know, I'm so jealous. That's awesome. 1228 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is awesome, right, And I was just like, 1229 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, that's just like yeah, I was like, look 1230 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 1: at Jessica, catch me if you can. It's the catch me, 1231 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 1: if you can, you catch me? Like you love her 1232 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 1: pictures exactly, Oh my gosh. Else people are so great. 1233 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a comment someone was like, why is 1234 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: she the first black woman. Why not just the first woman? Ridiculous. 1235 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: Someone was like, what do you mean a white woman 1236 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: probably already visit every country. I mean, I mean sometimes 1237 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: people are really looking for like, oh my gosh, I'm 1238 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: just accurate. I mean like, it's like, girl, because someone 1239 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 1: already did it who was not black. 1240 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,680 Speaker 2: They would only be offensive if someone were at the 1241 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 2: headline black woman visits every country. 1242 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: Yes, that's why I was gonna say, clearly, I mean, 1243 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: that's what it's implying to me. I'm not for sure, 1244 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: but it's implying to me that there was a white woman, 1245 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe a Spanish woman or somebody else who has already 1246 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,479 Speaker 1: done that. So we're, you know, making the emphasis because 1247 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: she's the first black woman. I don't know what it 1248 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: is about people who are non black, not people everyone, 1249 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: but there are certain people who are non black who 1250 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 1: get so offended when you actually say the word black. 1251 00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, why. 1252 00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 2: Color And that's fine. 1253 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: No, I'm colorblind, except for at night when I'm clutching 1254 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,240 Speaker 1: my purse. Girls, sit down, she said, why does she 1255 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: have to be the first black woman? Because she's a 1256 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 1: black woman. So yeah, that's my booze for Jessica and 1257 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: then also for BT for actually doing right by us, 1258 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, like I want to see like black history 1259 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: kind of like fun like things like that on your 1260 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: ig and on your network. We don't need to watch 1261 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,360 Speaker 1: baby Boy one more time, even though I don't even 1262 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: watch BET like that because of the programming, but it 1263 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 1: would be nice to see things like that, because I'm 1264 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: telling these have been really nice, like fun videos to 1265 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: kind of like look back with nostalgia on what was? 1266 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 1: You know? 1267 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: Maybe I should follow BET on Instagram. I can't say 1268 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 2: that I do. I did watch Soul Train, though. 1269 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: Oh see, why are the dances? 1270 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, all of us have like an uncle 1271 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,080 Speaker 2: or an aunt removed or something like that. Who was 1272 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 2: on Soul Train? 1273 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, really, I don't think I did, but that 1274 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: would be funny maybe, And I've never asked before. 1275 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 2: Just you never know, you never know. 1276 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 1: All Right, Well, it's been an awesome show, Manager as 1277 00:59:59,040 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: per usual. 1278 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 2: I mean, are you getting ready for your time off? 1279 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 2: What are we gonna do without you? 1280 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: You are gonna have some guest hosts who are gonna sleigh, Yes, guys, 1281 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be taking two weeks off just to like 1282 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: loose like so I'm trying to not not even trying. 1283 01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 1: My teams already let me know they're gonna lock me 1284 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 1: out of everything, which honestly I need. Like I don't 1285 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 1: have any like major plans in place. I'll try to 1286 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: at least go somewhere new and different, but maybe some massages, 1287 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: a petticure, because my feet are definitely winter feet right now, 1288 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: which is not a cute. 1289 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Look winter feet. 1290 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Hashtag. Oh no, yeah, just like it, you know, just 1291 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to relax, and it will be because usually, like even 1292 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 1: if I take like the day off or half a day, 1293 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm still thinking about ooh tomorrow, I gotta do X 1294 01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: y Z, you know, and so this this would be 1295 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: nice not to think that. 1296 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you'll come back fresher and better than ever. 1297 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 2: So you guys, don't worry. 1298 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: I got y'all. 1299 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 2: I got y'all. We're gonna have to own some incredible 1300 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 2: guest hosts joining us the first couple of episodes of April. 1301 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 2: Let me see I've confirmed them so I can share. 1302 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna have our favorite, what do we call her, 1303 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 2: a fairy money godmother, Yanette the money Coach, the money 1304 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 2: coach herself, Lynette Califani Cox who I think still has 1305 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 2: one of our most popular episodes ever where we talked 1306 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 2: about negotiating and asking for more at work. So Lynette's 1307 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 2: going to be joining us, and also we'll have for 1308 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 2: the first time Sandy Smith, who's the founder of Yes 1309 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 2: I Am Cheap, which is a personal finance blog. Sandy 1310 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: is like the ultimate hustle queen. I feel like, holds 1311 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 2: down a nine to five job but has all these 1312 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 2: side hustles and has been We've been trying to have 1313 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: her on the show forever. I feel like, so yeah, 1314 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm very I think you guys are gonna love you some, Sandy. 1315 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 2: If you're not always. 1316 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Everyone loves up some sad days. 1317 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 2: She's so awesome, tells it like it is hilarious. Can't 1318 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 2: wait to have her on. So we're in good hands, 1319 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 2: you guys, don't worry, don't go gho sting me Without Tiffany, 1320 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 2: It'll still be a great show while Tip gets so 1321 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 2: much needed rest and relaxation. 1322 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: Four