1 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: It's Draft week. Welcome another good morning football podcast, brought 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: to you by zip Recruiter, where you can post your 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: job to all the top job sites with one click. 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 1: I'm Ka Adams. Hey, Nate Burleson, Hey, Kay Adams Up. 5 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: Peter Schrager's Draft time. Hey Peter with the sleeves short, 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Kyle Brat with the sunglasses even though it's raining on 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: top of your head to Phy. Yeah, guys, we're going 8 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: to Philly tomorrow. Yes, I thought. I feel like I 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: thought that I had an extra day. Yeah, we have 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: a show. We have to be here at five. We 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: have to be back here in mitt in Hell's kitchen 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: for the show in like twelve hours. Right, we're taping 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: this Tuesday. We're leaving in twenty four hours, back here twelve. 14 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: It's nuts. Yeah, I'm excited though. Philly will be amazing. 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like, granted there might not be one standout 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: in the first round, but the quarterbacks and stuff are 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: gaining steam and there's probably gonna be a ton of 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 1: trades in this Thursday night situation. Yeah, I think so. 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: And I think what's interesting is in February at the Combine, 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: I was there and the big talk was well, there's 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: no quarterbacks in this draft, and I'm not going to 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: say that. I was like, hey, guys, wait, but every 23 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: year there are quarterbacks taken in the top fifteen picks, 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: and every year we end up talking about the quarterbacks. 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: And sure enough, this year in a class where there's 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: no quarterbacks, I would wouldn't Todd mcshay's on television in 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: February saying I have none of my first round none, 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: there's one of my first round. Well, here we are. 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: There might be a quarterback taking one, two, three, four, five, 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: I mean and out of like the handful of the 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: people are talking about. We met three of them in 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours Peter on Good Morning Football, 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: which was awesome, and the four of us don't really 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: ever get to sit down together very often and sort 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: of discuss and download like what was that? Like what 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: we think of him? So let's start with Deshauan Kaiser, 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: who we had earlier on in the week. Kyle, what 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: was your take on Kaiser? He sort of won me over. 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 1: He had a really cool answer, yeah, and good present. 40 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: He seemed extremely young, like I know I'm getting a 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: little older, but he seemed he seemed like a baby 42 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: and that you know, that's he is one of the 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: youngest players in the draft. But then he starts talking 44 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: and he is smart. He does have that Notre Dame charm. 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: He had us in the palm of his hand when 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: he was going into that. You know, we asked him about, 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you're not a winner. He had a four 48 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: and eighth season at Notre Dame, and then he spun 49 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: this incredible it was really good about its prepared me 50 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: and I've been through the lows. He knows how to lose, 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: he knows how to recover from it, so it's this 52 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: huge rapping. He said, dude, you know what, Dame, he 53 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: lost a Navy what's wrong with you? Dude? Like, now 54 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: I want to draft you because you lost the duke. 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: It was a really cool thing that he did. I 56 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: think we all felt that way about him, didn't we know? 57 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: You were smiling? So I was smiling because he answered 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: every question perfectly, and I'm not gonna ei. There was 59 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: a part of me that said, this guy's coach will 60 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: And then he started talking more and I thought, damn, 61 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: this is pretty genuine. Now, even though he looked young, 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: he's seemed more mature and in comparison, and we'll get 63 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: to it. I'll let you run the point on this 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: ky to Deshaun Watson and Pat Mahomes the second it's 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: it was a little bit different, And in my opinion, 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: I feel like Kaiser his answers were more polished and 67 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: he was more confident in delivery. And this could all 68 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 1: be media savvy, this could all be TV, this would 69 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: all be training, because these guys get just like they 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: trained for the forty, They trained for these questions, just 71 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: like they trained for the vertical, they trained for being 72 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: on TV. So maybe he's trained will or maybe it 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: comes from a good place. But my first gut reaction, 74 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: if I could rank them in responses to our questions 75 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: and how they were delivered, I would go Kaiser, Watson, Mahomes. 76 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Why Mahomes last? I I felt like Mahomes answered the 77 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: questions um in my procession that he was younger like 78 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: he looked young, and he sounded young, He sounded hungry, 79 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: sounded passionate, league but he also he also he also 80 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: sounded like there was a ton of room for growth. 81 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: And then other guys, even though it might have been there, 82 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't admit that and I don't know 83 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: if that's I don't know if that's what Struck and 84 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: Kaiser is now being viewed as of those three, the 85 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: third on the list. Everyone's talking about Watson, Mahomes and Trubisky, 86 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: and then Kaiser like he's this fourth guy. He was 87 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: bigger than those guys. He walked in. He was taller. 88 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: He's six foot four and a half or these other guys, Watson, Trubisky, 89 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Mahomes are six two and below. Does that matter? No, 90 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Russell Wilson had great NFL careers, But 91 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: first glance walking into the room, walking off the bus, 92 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: I looked at him and said, Okay, that guys an 93 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. But does that matter because that's the rap 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: on Trubisky? Right, he looks the part, So how much 95 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: does that take into account? How much is how what 96 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: we think of their question answering really matter? None of it? 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: None of it. I was just saying that from what 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: I received, But listen, looked the part, play the part. 99 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: Those are two separate things. You know, we're getting excited 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: about the draft, and I don't want to cut down 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: the draft. I don't want to cut down the process 102 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: to combine. I don't want to cut down any of 103 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: the analytics. As we've been talking about this last I 104 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: felt bad for him today. It's a shake of the dice, man, 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: it's and that's why the drafts so exciting, you know what. 106 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: I hope as many quarterbacks go on the first round 107 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: as possible, because for me, that's the most suiting thing. 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: So a young guy thrown into the plane. Laugh, and 109 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: we're kind of hyping the Kaiser answer, but there's no 110 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: doubt in my mind that that was him sitting next 111 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: to a publicist or in Asian and like, let's work 112 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: through the not winning thing and come up with your delivery, 113 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: and that's fine. That just means he's coachable. I do 114 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: think he had some presents. Peter asked me in the hallway, 115 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: rocking at it. He's like, okay, we met the three 116 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: of them. Which one of any of those guys impressed you, like, 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: blew you away with presents? My answer was no. I 118 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 1: didn't get to sit with Cam Newton before the draft, 119 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: but I have to imagine I've sat with him in 120 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: other interviews. He shows up jams all right, that's the 121 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: guy down the flip side of that is Jamis can 122 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: move a crowd of a thousand people. The flip side, 123 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: I met with Mariota and it was one word answers 124 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: and he was looking at his feet and I'm like, 125 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: all right now, and he's great. So what about Aaron Rodgers? 126 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: What's he like in an interview? Kind of quiet? Right? Yeah? 127 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: And I thought so. The reason the reason I thought 128 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: of that, for the reason I wanted to talk about 129 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: who I was impressed with, is because I wasn't saying, Oh, 130 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: this guy is making me smile and my mom at home, 131 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: it's probably going to buy his jersey. As they're talking, 132 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking football, I'm thinking huddle. I'm thinking what guy 133 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: is gonna come in and say the right things? And 134 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Shaan Watson saw spoken now obviously in the heat of 135 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: the moment, he's different. I assume a guy who's been 136 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: on he's a pretty bold answer. He's gonna make teams 137 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: regret not taking him like that. He said, what, Peter, 138 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: you asked them, what you know? Why are these people 139 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: all taking tribisky? What do you say to something takes trubisky? 140 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: And he says, you're gonna have to live with the consequences. 141 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: That was the best answer we've gotten. It was all strong. 142 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: It's strong. I love it. I love it. He was 143 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: so spoken. I feel like Mahomes he seems I don't remember. 144 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: It was the most recent we had him. He was 145 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: the last of the three, and there's nothing that stuck 146 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: out to me. Really. The Homes seemed to me. I honestly, 147 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: I think he seemed a little tired. I really before 148 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: they got segment started, I said, how's it going, man? 149 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: And almost there two more days. He's seen to me 150 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: a little rundown drain did yeah. And I don't blame him. 151 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's gauntless. Listen. I like Watson Man 152 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: just meeting he's he's casual. He seemed a little bit, 153 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: I guess tired of the question about Trubisky. You tell 154 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: he gets it a lot. But his response, but I 155 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: think more transparent than other guys would have said. They 156 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: would have just said, hey, you know, I like him 157 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: one the best I saw. Wanted that picture of them 158 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: got to do with each other down and say they 159 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: are better than each other? Who gave us that ky 160 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: that David and Joku we asked him about. Yeah, he's good, 161 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: he's really good. No, Holy he's gonna be taken before 162 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: you in your position. You're better than right. Look, I 163 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: don't know he's a good player. Now, we hated that 164 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: nice guy and Dalvin Cook. I liked his when he 165 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: was next to four Nette and he's like, I'm the 166 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: best running back in the draft. Yeah, how about you're bro, 167 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: You're on the clock. Steve Smith joining our show today, 168 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: he was fantastic I was picking Dalvin Cook to go 169 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: to the Jags fourth over offensive player in his draft. 170 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: He said, Dalvin Coke and Leonard Fournett's on the board, 171 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: and so was Christian McCaffrey. I'm still like, I'm blown 172 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: away by that. Still the beauty of the draft. Will 173 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: you look at Steve's name. Yeah, Steve Palazzo, the Pro 174 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Football Focused Draft is top five. We're gonna send an 175 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: edible arrangement to He didn't even have like he got 176 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: beaten bullet. Yeah, he just had a good perspective on this. 177 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I sat out that segment. A lot of room. 178 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: That not a lot of room at the table today 179 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: in the listener what that was? Right? The analytics we 180 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: have the guy from Pro Football Focus was all about 181 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: numbers analytics, the future of saber matches whatnot. And then 182 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: you have Steve Smith. There's the the all time like 183 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: Anti that the heart, the chip on the shoulder underside 184 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: and I'm listening off stage what's going on in my 185 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: micro and it seems like a lot of Steve talking. 186 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: I didn't hear this palazzo guy. So what happened? Steve 187 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: jumped him and went, I wanted to broke broker like 188 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: we got the player perspective, pro bowler, the yards, this 189 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: the grit of a of a player mixed with this 190 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: guy comes comes, doesn't buy into the binder, think under 191 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: his impression and he was direct messaging me like I've 192 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: got some good stuff like let me explain my top 193 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: receivers and running that and we and then you know, 194 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: Smith comes in and it's like this guy like I'm 195 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: not and it became a vitamin to the bathroom and 196 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: locked the door right. And the funniest thing is that 197 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: guy is like six foot eight or something. He's a monster. 198 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: Ironic that he's the one talking numbers. He looks like 199 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: a tight end. Steve said, I thought when you walked in, 200 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: you were going to be a dweeb. Basically, I'm going 201 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: to stuff in the locker and there was like no 202 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: laughter because we were so shocked. He would say it. 203 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: So like Steve Smith says, to this stats guy, I've 204 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: walked out. I thought you'd be a square dweeb, and 205 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: we're and me and Kay and Nato. So then this 206 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: guy Steve's on is on defense the whole time. That said, 207 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: but he was good, he handled it great, he was great. 208 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: And what he said and was like, look, I know 209 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: this is not the full picture. That said, I have 210 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: something that you guys cannot have as eye tests. And 211 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: I watch a film. I can tell you six years 212 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: ago what Terrence Newman did against guys who ran the post. 213 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: And I have that database that can help you, and 214 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: I think that clicks for you and Steve it did 215 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: one hundred percent because it all makes sense. I got 216 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: to the midway point in my career, and the numbers guys, 217 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: the numbers coaches that will come in, that stuff will 218 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: be just as important as the eye test I would 219 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: give these players because I knew third and fourth quarter, 220 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: if I had the nickel back in the slot, I 221 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: could torch him on the dodge route because he's expecting 222 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: the inside route. So those things make sense. But from 223 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: Steve's perspective, it was about not allowing the game to 224 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: get Let me see if I can find the right word. 225 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Number five, number five. But Steve loves numbers. Are numbers 226 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: all day softened up? In a sense, he doesn't. He doesn't. 227 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Steve's cup from old school cloth, so he knows when 228 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: it comes down to football, it's you against the other guy. 229 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: You don't think about numbers. But here's the thing. Numbers 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: matter nowadays, and it's it's not it's just like Vegas. 231 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: It's not gonna guarantee your win, but the probability you 232 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: win and increases the more you know the numbers. So 233 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: it was a good segment. He handled it well. But 234 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: getting back to his top five and four Nette and 235 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: us not taking him when Cook with Steve chose Cook. 236 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: He didn't have Fournette in his top five either, So 237 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: I think we're all assuming that Fournette is going to 238 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: go maybe not. Are we missing something on that? No, 239 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: we're not missing anything. All along, Dalvin Cook has been 240 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: talked about it, this is the Draalon but he didn't 241 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: even have Cooking there. Remember, I know he didn't have 242 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: any offensive players till Trubisky at six, but everyone I've 243 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: spoken to says the expected order of the running backs 244 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: will be Fournette, McCaffrey, Cook. Now, all it takes is 245 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: one team to say Jaguars at four, which we don't 246 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: know their board. Say. We've been putting out Fournette to 247 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: everyone who we've talked to. But guess what the real 248 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: reason we wanted to do that is because we didn't 249 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: want the first three teams to take Cook. We're taking Cook. 250 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: It could happen. I jokingly suggested taking Trubisky or a 251 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: quarterback to Jack. I don't think it's the craziest thing. 252 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: They haven't picked up Borel's option. He struggled mightily. I 253 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: didn't understand like giving him a running back would to 254 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: help balance opt out the offense. And no chance that 255 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: the Jags take a quarterback. Absolutely a chance. Sam Bradford 256 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago signed a six years, seventy 257 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: six million dollars deal just to suggest three years into 258 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: that deal they would go over the quarterbacks ridiculos because 259 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: they're paying them all that money. Bord's going into the 260 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: final year of his contract making six million dollars. You've 261 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: got veterans on the team making fifteen sixteen million, Malik Jackson, 262 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: Clays Campbell are making twice as much as the quarterback. 263 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: It's not crazy to say if we're not sold on 264 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: him as our quarterback and we love one of these guys, yeah, 265 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: take a quarterback. I like it. I've heard a lot 266 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: of rumors Watson to the Jaguars, which might just be 267 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: hot air at number four. And if that happens, then 268 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: throw out your mock draft and rip it all up 269 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: because things get crazy. So media, Peter Schreeger and you 270 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: are talking to these guys in the front offices and 271 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: your connections, how do you decipher what is hot air 272 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: and smoke? Screen fire? Would what you actually know to trust? Like, 273 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: is that just experience that's brought you? Yeah, I would 274 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: hope that that, Like my conversations are not I'm not 275 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: being used in a way, but it's possible. You're a pawn. 276 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: But a lot of times where I get that from Okay, 277 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: So let's say let's give an example. Say I'm talking 278 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: about the Bengals at nine, all right, and I say, well, 279 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: I hear you know, Attack McKinley, Hassan, Reddick, Ruben Foster. 280 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: The names that I'm hearing okay, which is true. That 281 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: might not necessarily come from a Bengals source. It might 282 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: come from someone from another team drafting at ten or 283 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: eleven who has got friends on the Bengal staff, or 284 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: who has seen who the Bengals have worked out, or 285 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: has getting intelligence. That way, you collect from all the 286 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: different opinions, and if you trust your sources and that 287 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: like this guy has a friend in Tennessee and he 288 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: knows their board, and this is what they're thinking, you 289 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: could take a good shot at the mocker. How often 290 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: does it not add up? Yeah? No, we talked about 291 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa third to the Chargers last year, a complete 292 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: red herring. No one knew it was coming, which is 293 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: why like no one on Friday is going back and saying, hey, Schreeger, 294 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: you had a son Reddick nine to the Bengals. He 295 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: went twenty first to the Lions. You are you know, 296 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: you're an idiot. I had a big miss last year. 297 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: I had Connor Cook in the first round. He went 298 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: in the fourth round. I never heard of words. I 299 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: want to know, there's no consequences getting it wrong. I 300 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: want to get it right. But Schreger, leaning on those sources, 301 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: there was somebody that you knew as a reliable source. 302 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: I had him going on the table and was just 303 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: convincing you that this so it's not really your fault. 304 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: I had him going to Dallas, them trading back, and 305 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: then truth Dallas tried to trade up to get him 306 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: in the first round. Packston Lynch guy. So it didn't 307 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: work out, but they were interested. Once Packston Lynch was 308 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: taken to get Connor Cook. It didn't happen. They went 309 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: a different direction. Fine, but I look stupid, and I 310 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: don't think any of these mock draft guys come out 311 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: the next day and say here are the ones I 312 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: got wrong. But that was maybe my greatest swinging a 313 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: miss ever. I also had Matt Barkley going on the 314 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: first round. He went in the fourth round himself. It's 315 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: it's possible, and I trust all these people, but sometimes 316 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: the boards fall and you get left out. It's it 317 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: far fetched to think that maybe the NFL could do 318 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: something similar to the NC Double A tournament does with 319 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: the Brackett and see if anybody can get yeah, like 320 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: a billion dollars from right because perfect in this conversation, 321 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: nobody has ever because chrisonate what happened at at last 322 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: year at seven o one pm, Larry made Tunzil a 323 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: sure fire top I thick has a gas mask photo league. 324 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: But even on normal years, no one Ll Collins two 325 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: years ago, it was supposed to be a first round pick. 326 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: It's found out that he's in a murder situation that 327 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: he wasn't found guilty of. But I think we didn't 328 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: get drafted. No, sounds like a segment. It does sound 329 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: like a second think we should do that, like it 330 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: you're doing. You have your latest max seven last one 331 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: seven rounds? What has changed the most from the first 332 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: every year? But your first version this season? How's it 333 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: changed the most? I had Kaiser going second overall to 334 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: the Niners in February. So we like him so much. 335 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: What happened to him? Dissection of the tape? They talked 336 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: to a lot of people. He might go into first round, 337 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: early second, or he might be that Connor Coop. Can 338 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: we blame bann have the greatest comba right? I don't 339 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: know if you can blame Like you're hearing that like 340 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: he's really young, Like he comes in and he's not 341 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: ready to play next year. See but he's he's young. 342 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: But he seemed older than the home because he was 343 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback at Notre Dame. To me, I agree, it's 344 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: like this guy played on national television every day. That's 345 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: all value about it. Yeah, you're sitting on your couch. 346 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: We're going through seven rounds every since crazy, You're in 347 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: the middle of the sixth round. Yeah. I think this 348 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: is a tight end. I think this is wow. I 349 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: lost that dedication. I respect you. Seven my birthday weekend, 350 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: I did this. So let's the first first three rounds 351 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: come from intelligence around the league. The next four or five, six, 352 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: seven is what I kind of I'm like, what does 353 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: this team need? And then I have team's boards of like, 354 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: so it's just attaching players. I did seven rounds with 355 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: Margaritas on Hey, listen, I want to ask another one 356 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: about my home. You up some epic weekend brand, you know? 357 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Is it like a still talking about your hangover getting 358 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: I just got out of hand. I'm celebrating Peter's birthday. 359 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm cleberting nothing. I was just sleberating being at home 360 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: on my couch, I being thirty eight years old and 361 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: having the blender out and making a mister and missus 362 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: t Margharita making another one so much, it's so delicious. 363 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: I just kept making them, and then you're like, well, 364 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: I've made another picture. I made the second picture. There's 365 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: only half of it left. I can't let that half 366 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: go to waste. Brooks not drinking, I guess I'll just 367 00:16:56,320 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: finish it. At one point, I drink in my apartment. 368 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: I really I'd never drink at home. Oh man, that 369 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: an HGTV sitting down flip or flop with a mister 370 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: and missus till you guys. Yeah, of course, what would 371 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: it be? Friday, Thursday, Friday, Friday, I'll tell you what. 372 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: The next day though, Sunday morning, we had a family 373 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: trip to the Bronx Zoo. Don't ever be hung or 374 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: go to a zoo. You walk past that like rhino 375 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: exhibit the smells coming out of that place. I dry heaved, 376 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: and the rhino said about you, you say, looking at me? 377 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: I want to ask, go ahead, I want to ask 378 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: about my homes because I think this is the guy 379 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: who has the biggest spectrum of where he could go. 380 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out he could go to the 381 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: fifteenth pick, or he could fall to the end of 382 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: the second round. It seems that way to me, and 383 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: we're talking to him today and we're looking at all 384 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: those highlights and is he not a guy who, like, 385 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: two years from now we could be like remember Pat 386 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: Mahomes from Texas Member That guy I'm watching. I mean 387 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: it's like he feels like a white chocolate almost like 388 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: a trick shot, like a circus performer. And in the 389 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: first round, like he throws it really far. Okay, can 390 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: you can put the deep out? On third and eleven, 391 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: he does this shovel passes out of nowhere. Like if 392 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: I'm getting him in the first round, I don't want 393 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: white chalk. I want Chris Paul, like I want this study. 394 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: So Peter, being the draft guy, what's the pulse on this? 395 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea where because and I asked about 396 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: the air raid offense, he never took snaps out under 397 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: center like he had an answer for that too, and 398 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: his answer might and he's like I called things in 399 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: the line. But long story short, he's the biggest wild 400 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: card because he's so fun to watch, and yet there's 401 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: no real apples to apples comparison because what they play 402 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: at Texas Tech is literally pinball. It's like a different 403 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: it's video games. It's not comparable to the NFL, and 404 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: no quarterback out of that system. He threw eighty eight 405 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: passes in a game last year once and in one 406 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: game the Texas Tech score comes on the bottom of 407 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: the screen. You're like, Texas Tech has seventy one eighty 408 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: eight passes, basically, like you mentioned Chris Paul, Yeah, and yeah, 409 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: we want Chris Paul. We love Chris Paul, very consistent 410 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: at the point guard position. But you remember when Jayson 411 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Williams Chris ware a Sacramento. He's rocking that double nickel 412 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: five five five white chocolate. It was nasty with it. 413 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: So for me, yeah, it's risk and taking a guy 414 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: like that. But you mentioned, oh, well, what happened to 415 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. It could be that in two years, or 416 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: it could be man it took it took Tribisky over 417 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, or it could be in two years. You're right, 418 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes, it's like Aaron Rodgers. I don't know now 419 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: that you put it in those terms, Kyle, I don't 420 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: see it as the ladder. I don't see it as 421 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: old Patrick Mahomes that I see it more. Do you 422 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: remember Patrick Mahomes And I like the Yeah. Remember he 423 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: threw it really far and it's like a quarterbacks remembered 424 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: a couple of We had a friend of the show. 425 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put his name out there, but he 426 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, um, I'm not a big 427 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes fan. H he's a legend at the wide 428 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: recipe position. I don't know if you want to say 429 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: his name or not, but that was sorry. We were 430 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: in the production meeting this stokely we just called you out. 431 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: We're not gonna I'm not gonna sit in. I don't 432 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: think he's gonna pan out that strong words, So I 433 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if he's going to pan out. 434 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to get to a question, do you want 435 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: to go somewhere and play now or do you want 436 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: to sit behind somebody? Because I'm really curious to see 437 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: what he thinks about himself. I think him saying that 438 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: he needs to learn to play book. He knows that 439 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: he needs more time. What was Ryan Leaf's advice to 440 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: a younger Ryan Leaf? I wish I attached myself to 441 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: a veteran. I wish I had learned. I wish I 442 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: had someone. Rodney Harrison was in the room with mahomes 443 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: Leaf did Yep, he's been mentoring him. And it's like, 444 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: that is what a lot of these guys they want 445 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: to play right away. But Steve Smith is doing the 446 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: Rights to Death whatever over the thought of Catholic Peter 447 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: that ride what is it? The rights to death? What 448 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: is it? Metal band? It kind of loom. But what 449 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: I'm saying is he was saying, like, you go to 450 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: the Browns, that's a graveyard, Like you're done. He's talking 451 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: about this to Watson to his face. But Nate, if 452 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: he goes to green Bay where Brett Hunley has been 453 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: waiting for two years, you might never see the light 454 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: of day. He's not going to see a lot of day. 455 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: Come on, let's be realistic. Aaron Rodger's not going anywhere. 456 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: He's grand fathered in as a guy that's gonna retire 457 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: a green Bay packer at this point. I would love 458 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: to see him go to the Browns. I get it. No, 459 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: I want to see Watson go to the Browns. I 460 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: want to see Watson go to Browns. I want to 461 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: see him start with the Browns. I would love to 462 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: see the ultimate X fractor. And I keep saying it 463 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: and listen, I'm not promoting this individual, but I would 464 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: love to see Josh Gordon back with with Coleman and Watson. Isaiah, 465 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: you moonlight as Josh Gordon's heype man Mark. Now here's 466 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: the thing. Now here's the thing. I can honestly say, 467 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: though I'm not saying this because this is like my buddy, 468 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: Like we don't text every day, we don't text every 469 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: we won't text every month. But I'm just so fascinated 470 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: with him because I saw him out of shape. Dominated Okay, 471 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: it was a couple of months where it takes a 472 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: lot for me to raise my eyebrow, being that I 473 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: saw greatness face to face when I played, saw greatness 474 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: when I Yeah, I saw these guys every day. Papa 475 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: shot and I'm thinking to myself, all right, what's the 476 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: hype about this one dude who led the league? Yeah? Whatever, Man, 477 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: I see him and I'm like, I can tell he's 478 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: out of shape. He's like six three six four, he's 479 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: about two forty. And then a couple lazy practices go by. 480 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't get it. I'm over the hype. 481 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: Like I might even have a chance at thirty due 482 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: to beat this guy. Out and then I start picking 483 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: at him. I start saying little things like how am 484 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: I winning in conditioning? Like how am I the best 485 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: dude in one on one routes? And you can tell 486 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: he's getting agitated, like this old ass dude, better sit 487 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: down and shut up. You don't know me. And the 488 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: competitive nature started to rise in him. And Kay, when 489 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: I say, at around eighty five percent of his full go, 490 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: he was lightening up defenses and I was like, holy, 491 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: that's the one that got away. He was supposed to 492 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: be the end of your trilogy. Was that. There was 493 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: a great moment today, a great moment today from Steve 494 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: Smith where okay, so this one was off the air. 495 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson comes in and you know he's represented by 496 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: Old Spices with all their handlers, with his handlers. It's 497 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: all very corporate. He's gonna be a big time star 498 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: quarterback at the draft down draft, Yeah, welcome to the draft. 499 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: And you know he was maybe a little nervous, little 500 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: reluctant sit down on TV as we're warming up and 501 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: the stage manager is going, okay, thirty seconds Steve Smith 502 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: is chatting him up on the side, and he's just like, 503 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna go to Cleveland. Don't go to Cleveland. Thrust 504 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: sucks is gonna break you in half? Do you don't 505 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: want to be in the FC nor they will break you? 506 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: And he's like what And it was like he was 507 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: into him. And then it's like you're on live and 508 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: we're all like receiving again. Deshaun Watson's and Steve Tellson 509 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: geta broken in half if he goes to Cleveland. It 510 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: was so great. That's the circus today. It was there 511 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: was a port. I looked right and I said, are 512 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: we are we online television? Like is this show actually 513 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: hitting the air because it just seems like a party. 514 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: It was you say that sometimes we actually get to 515 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: do this for our jobs, Like we're doing all those ridicules, 516 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: making the case segments and I have a cowboy head 517 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: on today? Was that for like three hours with Steves. 518 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely I didn't even I wasn't even privy to that knowledge. 519 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: Was listening to you talent to Shan Watson, He's got 520 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: absolutely no chance if he goes to the Cleveland Browns. 521 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: And Watson's nervously laughing, I'm not sure I'm going there yet, Like, huh, 522 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: can we start the segment. The short man, we're not 523 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: great for business, right, all right, I want to hear 524 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: about who we're going to talk to in Philly, But 525 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: first we got to talk about Zip recruiter. 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Would Daisy go and Willie 553 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: stop by our show set? Have you gotten it? I 554 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: didn't even gonna go with Caffrey and you guys, I 555 00:25:53,760 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: was not nearly Will you guys drove the Kaffrey training. 556 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: You guys did a really good marketing campaign on our show, 557 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: and you got me hooked. And I'm really excited to 558 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: see where this kid ends. You know, it seems like 559 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm part of his marketing team the way I've been 560 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: pushing him this offseason. But it's not about me, just 561 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: coming out and saying he's gonna have a long career. 562 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: He's successful. But for as much as I hyped him up, 563 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: I do want to see how that applies to the league. 564 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: I do want to see how durable he is, and 565 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: more importantly than catching out the backfield, because he could 566 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: go to any team that has pass catching running backs 567 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: and catch fifty sixty balls. He's just that talented. I 568 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: want to see what happens when they hand the ball 569 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: off to the young man and he got to run 570 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: in between the tackles. Are you gonna be able to steal, 571 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 1: wiggle and make moves like you did in college? And 572 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: I think that he will be. You know, some question 573 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: his bench press. The only bench shoot ten times at 574 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: two twenty five? Who cares? Who cares? So you took 575 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: him and I'm excited about him. But I also want 576 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: to see where John rusc goes just that amazing speed 577 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: to Sean Jackson being one of his big brother mentors, 578 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: and we all remember when Deshaun Jackson was like at 579 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: the height of really doing it. I think there's an 580 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: argument you made that he was the best receiver in 581 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: all the football like at least the most explosive and 582 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: the most exciting, like he was letting punts dribble on 583 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: the ground, picking him up and then backpedaling into the 584 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: end zone. He's running post routes. Everybody's knowing he's running 585 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: post routes and running past guys like by five yards. 586 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: So I think John Ross, if he stays healthy and 587 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: can find the right system, he could be that exact 588 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: same player like right away. Though it took like a 589 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: year or some change for Dashawn to do it, John 590 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: Ross with that speed could do it right now. It's 591 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: funny as we're talking, I'm seeing a tweet from Daniel 592 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: Jeremiah and he has a clip of Christian McCaffrey as 593 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: North Carolina just a ridiculous movie. He says, this is 594 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: a shady McCoy type cutback here, McCaffrey's a bad dude, 595 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: and then Rappaport retweet and says, this is a hilarious move. 596 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: People are just falling down. This guy is so exciting 597 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: to me. I've been around for all these drafts, twenty 598 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: twenty five drafts that I can remember. I don't know 599 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: if I've been as a set as this player for 600 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: this except rocket Ismail, who went to the Canadian League. 601 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: If this does work out and he blows up and 602 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: he has like a Zeke type season, even less than that, 603 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: it's not everyone's gonna want a Christian McCaffrey type. That's 604 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna be the term. Like they're gonna be chasing McCaffrey 605 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: for years to come. We don't want your father's running back, 606 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: We don't want letter for we want the McCaffrey type. 607 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: But is there any chance a couple of years from now, 608 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: we're saying, is there any chance we're going remember when 609 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was a thing. Any chance? No way. It's 610 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: because his forty time was too good. He jumped to 611 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: thirty seven vertical great as a sophomore, you know, went 612 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: out there and had that craziestposive season, runner up in Heisman. 613 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: But I'll say this before you get and I'm sorry. 614 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: The moment, the moment that I want, that I'm hoping 615 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: for from the draft, that I would jump out of 616 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: my seat is if McCaffrey goes before, because that is 617 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: the passing of the torch at the position. For me, 618 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: four Nette is a beast. And if someone says we 619 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: want McCaffrey, the sport has changed it's everybody wants that 620 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: versatile back. And along with him changing the game and 621 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: people wanting that versatile back, I'll just say this, and 622 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I think if he goes high and 623 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: he's productive, it has to follow up production in so 624 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 1: many ways, He's gonna put the white running back back 625 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: on the map. Like can I say that to be honest? 626 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Because at skill players, the white cornerback just perked up 627 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: his ears say, the white cornerback isn't a thing since 628 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: what Jason C. Horn Scott case the white running back. 629 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: These guys are turned into slot receivers. To know, Julian Edelman, 630 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: you gotta go play another positions. So with him kind 631 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: of just blowing all the stereotypes of the white skilled 632 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: athlete out of the door, Like I like the fact 633 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: when a guy's productive, he's productive. I don't see color. 634 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: So I hope he's productive because then now, and you'll 635 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: speak to this because you talked about leaving high school 636 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: and knowing what the whole recruiting process is, like, you know, 637 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: you see a guy, you see color of skin, and 638 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: you're like, I'll take the black dude because genetically, like 639 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: it's I root for anything different. Jeremy Lynn at Jerome 640 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: Acginla that the William's sisters different. I love it black 641 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: white whatever. I want to see someone that is not 642 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: the norm coming in and doing something they don't normally, 643 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: just shaking it up, exactly right. I love it. Peter Going, 644 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: it's six weeks ago. We're sitting here doing the same podcast, 645 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: and we have Nate and we have Kyle hyping up McCaffrey. 646 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: Were having the same race conversation. We're talking about the 647 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: narrative six weeks ago being he's not getting enough love. 648 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: This is a kid who's got crazy talent, versatile, amazing, 649 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: isn't getting the respect that he deserves. Now we're seeing 650 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: footwork on Instagram blown up. We're seeing everyone's saying, take 651 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: McCaffrey over four nett is you know me? I love 652 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: the under promise over deliver. Is he being overhyped? No, 653 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: because it was almost like he was so under hyped 654 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: from the outset. He has the most yards from scrimmage 655 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: and culturable history. So he's going right now, he's going 656 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: to be going in the top ten, if not then 657 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: the top fifteen. And I heard a story again, I 658 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: might say it on air or whatever, that I heard, 659 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: Like he came to visit with the Carolina pan Highlights, 660 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: a team that a lot of people are linking him to, 661 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: and like Jerry Richardson like wanted to meet him. Like 662 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: the owner was like, oh, Christian McCaffrey's here, Mister McCaffrey, Like, 663 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: I'll go and meet him. And you've mentioned the bloodlines. 664 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: His mother was an athlete. Is that his grandfather was 665 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: an Olympic athlete. All his brothers play sprinter. Yeah, and 666 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: his uncle was Billy McCaffrey, who played point guard at 667 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: Duke and Vanderbilt. Like this is the real deal. If 668 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: there ever was someone to break the mold in the prototype, 669 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: it's this kid. Am I wrong about saying that? Though 670 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: the white running back? Am my wrong? Because I feel 671 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: like there's a ton of white. He's gonna set us 672 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: back fifty years if he's a bust. We need your Christian? 673 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: All right? My player almost excited to see And it's 674 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: not because I think he's, you know, a candy striper. 675 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: If Nick Saban would say it that way, where's Ruben 676 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: Foster end up? Because here's a guy who's got top 677 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: ten talent all day long, fails a drug test at 678 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: the Combine has a ton of stuff on his and 679 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: it's like it's this classic battle of like how good 680 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 1: is the talent compared to the what we're getting. And 681 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: you know, Cincinnati has an interesting philosophy where they're like, well, 682 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: let's us take those risks and see how they play. 683 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: Because we have a good foundation, we can make it work. 684 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Baltimore has an Alabama tie with Ozzie Nussom as a 685 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: general manager and all those Alabama players on the roster. 686 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: Does he fall out of the top twenty. Michael Lombardi, 687 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 1: who we both respect or all four of us respects, 688 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: said he's the second round pick. There's no way anyone 689 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: you ready conscious can take him in the first round. 690 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: And then I've heard from from other gm saying I 691 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: would be surprised if he falls out of the top fifteen. 692 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: So that to me the late screw in the whole thing, right, 693 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: the late curveball. This is the late wrench where it's yeah, 694 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: he's a top fifteen pick. All right, let's go on 695 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: with our mock drafts. Oh wait, he failed a drug test, 696 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: and now we're getting more and more stuff. Oh well, wait, 697 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: he got sent home from account Combine. Oh, wait, he 698 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: also has a shoulder injury. That's an issue. So are 699 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: we are we sitting there Friday and we're starting the 700 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: draft and it's like, are you taking Reuben Foster with 701 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: your thirty eighth pick? Talking ninth overall in the bank? 702 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: I feel like top fifteen comes around that space in 703 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: between ten and twenty and the pressure of the war 704 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: room gets in there and people are just looking at 705 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: those highlights and saying, forget it. Captain Sladder can Okay, 706 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: we'll put him on the program, which means he's gonna 707 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: get tested every week and we'll push the through lation 708 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: already in the program. Guess what, he has even been drafted, 709 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: he's already Can I tell a story? Yeah? Grateful as 710 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: of good question here? Okay, so he's an inside linebacker 711 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: who do not get drafted Unles, you're Luke Keickle ray Lewis. 712 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: You don't get drafted in the first round inside linebacker, right, 713 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: So you already had a position where it's I need. Now, 714 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: if you're a team who's in the fifteen to thirty 715 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: two range, you haven't done the work on Rubond Foster. 716 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: You haven't dove in because you didn't think you'd even 717 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: be around right. So now if you start slipping, you've 718 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: been working no, but the opposite, you've been working six 719 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: months for this, I know, damn well. I love John 720 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: Ross at twenty eight I've been sold myself. Now, all 721 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's a guy that we haven't had 722 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: our security guy talked to. We don't know the full 723 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: medical Okay, are you willing to risk it? Yeah? But 724 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: I think I think that the pressure of the war 725 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: room gets to you at that point, saying you know what, guys, 726 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: damn it. We didn't have a chance to talk to him. 727 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: We didn't think he was going to be here. He 728 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 1: wasn't on our board at this point. But there's no 729 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: way we could pass upon. That's when you scrap it. 730 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: You take that right and you say best guy available, right. Well, 731 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's like you work your way around the 732 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: board and you're like, Wow, I didn't think boardwalk would 733 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: be empty. Do I have it in my budget to 734 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: hey for boardwalk? Marvin Garden's money over here. I thought 735 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: someone would have taken boardwalk. They all passed on it, right, 736 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: you gotta take boardwalk? Yeah, By the way, that's such 737 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: a cop out. It shouldn't someone who does has that 738 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: much time? And if so many people were about everyone, yeah, 739 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: that three hundred man in the draft, what if Ruben 740 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: Foster falls to us? Let's play this out, Yes, pull 741 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: up our Ruben Foster dossier and this is our notes 742 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: on them. You gotta be ready, right, yeah, but you're 743 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: ready to seven rounds in your prouch Peter, And let 744 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: me ask you this, was there anything aside from these 745 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: re shoulders? Okay, the shoulder getting sent home from the 746 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: combine for being basically an a hole and then the deluded? 747 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: Pretty pretty good? That's a pretty good Do you think 748 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: Jamill Peppers helps him? Because now I was talking about him, 749 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: It's like, oh another guy did Was there anything else 750 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: that we know of? Right now? There's nothing that we're 751 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: talking about because at least you know about it. Okay, right, 752 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: it would be me out of school? So does this 753 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 1: scare you? Is what I'm saying, because we I'm scared. 754 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: Today we talked about some things that really scare us 755 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: that different in comparison to things that I'm talking about. 756 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: Joe mixons a different way, class tombat, domestic violence, so 757 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: all these different things. This is a guy has dual sample. Okay, 758 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: we've seen that before. This is a guy who's a jerk. 759 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: There's gonna be plenty of jerks coming into this draft, 760 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be plenty jerks that come into the 761 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: teams that are gonna have to be humbled by the 762 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: coach and staff in the vets in that locker room. 763 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: So for me, I'm all I'm saying is these things 764 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: don't scare me. That's what I'm saying to you guys 765 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: right now. In the Rappaport article, it's the it's the 766 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: phrase people are concerned about the crowd that he runs with. 767 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a very loaded phrase, but that's the 768 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: one that they use. The guy's been through a lot. 769 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: I talked about his history today, the fact that he 770 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: got sent home. All right, we get through that, But 771 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: then what says something about your approach and your professionalism 772 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: that you get the preparation. Yeah, so look, I've been 773 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: a huge cheerleader from It scares the hell out of me, though, 774 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: at eight, at nine, at ten, it scares me. There's 775 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: a lot of other good Lastly, who's who's the player 776 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: beyond Foster McCaffrey. Yere excited to get drafted and where 777 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: they'll go who's a player beyond Foster and McCaffrey. Listen 778 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 1: and John Ross. All right, I've been hearing about Cooper 779 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: Cup for months and I've seen we see him Eastern 780 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: Washington doing this, doing that. Everybody seems to love him. 781 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: Is measurables weren't great. He put up ridiculous numbers. And 782 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: if we're talking about if I'm describing Patrick Mahons as 783 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: some kind of circus performer white Chocolate, then I want 784 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: to see what Cooper Cup can do. Because he's got 785 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: this incredible name and this incredible resume. But who's gonna 786 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: say this could be a number one receiver, a number 787 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: one receiver? I don't know. So Cooper Cup to me, 788 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: we've heard the whole story on the show. He's a 789 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: guy for me. I want to watch Love it all right, guys, 790 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed the podcast. If you're a first 791 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: time listener, listen to all the back episodes and Nate. 792 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: Where can we find the podcast? Go to NFL dot 793 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: com slash Podcasts. Also go to iTunes, Google Play and 794 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Stitcher to find the GMFB pocket and watch our show 795 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: at seven to ten am Eastern NFL Network