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Speaker 1: Welcome back, happy our listeners. We missed you, but I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited Tasia for this week because Mental is always

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite episodes. There was so much that

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Speaker 1: get into it with you because we were both there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: also we have our favorite man here with us today

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Speaker 1: really give us. I don't know his feelings, because I

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Speaker 1: know he has a lot to say because so much

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Speaker 1: his true, honest thoughts on whatever let all went down.

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Speaker 1: And if you can't guess from just how much Tatia

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Speaker 1: already raved about this man, it is indeed Rodney himself

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Speaker 1: the apple of our eye. He as you said, he

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Speaker 1: remained so steady, so calm, just a class act through

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Speaker 1: and through and which I actually love because we've seen

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Speaker 1: him throughout the entire season and we've heard from most

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Speaker 1: of the men who've been on the podcast about how

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Speaker 1: fun he is. He always getting to the party started.

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Speaker 1: But there's so many more sides to him. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm so excited to have him on. You know,

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Speaker 1: we also fell in love with his mom during Hometown,

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Speaker 1: so I can't wait to pick his brain and get

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Speaker 1: to know who she is who raised this incredible band.

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Speaker 1: A little bit more before we get into all of that, though,

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Speaker 1: I have to say two things. First of all, you

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Speaker 1: and Caitlin crushed it once again. It's and now actually

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Speaker 1: being backstage and watching what all goes into it. You

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Speaker 1: both did such an incredible job. You were poised in

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Speaker 1: the midst of all of this chaos with you know,

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Speaker 1: twelve to fifteen men trying to scream over one another.

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Speaker 1: It's I can't imagine how you two felt on stage

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Speaker 1: trying to hold down the four But I commend you

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Speaker 1: both so much. You both looch stunning, incredible. Of course

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Speaker 1: Michelle did as well, but it wasn't you know, totally easy.

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Speaker 1: See Breezy night. You did have a moment where you

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Speaker 1: shared some very important news with us, So not even

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Speaker 1: as a co host, but more as a friend. I

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Speaker 1: know that you have so much love and support behind you,

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Speaker 1: but we just want to check in with you and

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Speaker 1: see how you're doing well. Thank you for all that.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I am definitely hanging in there.

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Speaker 1: That day was really tough for me because that's actually

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Speaker 1: like the day that the news kind of broke to everyone.

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Speaker 1: So it was just very heavy. But I had a

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any that easier. But I really said all

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Speaker 1: going through it all. And yeah, I spoke my piece,

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Speaker 1: And I would please ask everyone to just give you

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Speaker 1: You know, I understand going through a very public breakup.

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Speaker 1: It's breakups are never easy in general, but when you're

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Speaker 1: it that much harder. So everyone listening, please give Tastious

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Speaker 1: We're wishing you both the best, and you know, it's life.

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Speaker 1: These things happen, and hopefully you know you can learn

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Speaker 1: it out and now, you know, do whatever Tatia needs

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah, so let's get into the good,

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Speaker 1: juicy stuff, shall we. I need to know. Yeah, obviously,

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Speaker 1: fresh out the gate, the fight with the pizza takes place,

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Speaker 1: Actually it was actually decent. It didn't really taste like

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Speaker 1: And as Peter said, which I fully support him where

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Speaker 1: I think his soul's too good for it. But Tisha,

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Speaker 1: Bachelor and as Bachelorrette, it was so worth. It's so

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Speaker 1: every man that we've had on this podcast says Rodney

428
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: is the one to get the party started. He's just

429
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: funny and in the best spirits and you have this

430
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: fun side to you. But then you also seem so calm, cool, collected,

431
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 1: level headed, and which is yeah, very well rounded. So

432
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: how the heck did you get on about Cherette? Did

433
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: you sign up? Did somebody apply you to be on

434
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 1: the show? How did that all work out? My? But

435
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: my one of my best friends and his wife nominated me,

436
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: and then a casting producer reached out to me and said, hey,

437
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: I think it would be perfect for this this new

438
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 1: upcoming season of the Bachelor, And I was like, but

439
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: I don't it just it kind of happened so quickly,

440
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: and I was just kind of shocked about it. I

441
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: remember when I when they first called me and told me,

442
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you guys are crazy, Like there's

443
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: no way I could do show, Like what is why

444
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: would I There's no way, It's just insane. But obviously

445
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: here I am now, you know, thank thankful for it all.

446
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just took that one nomination. How you

447
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: seen the show before or did you watch Matt season

448
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: to where Michelle was on it. Did you know anything

449
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: about her? Did you kind of just learn about her

450
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: after we finding out it was going to be her? Yeah,

451
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: I definitely learned about her after after the fact, so

452
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, Michelle, who is this? I

453
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: had to go figure out, trying to do my own

454
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: little research, you know, go on YouTube seat clips of

455
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: her and Matt James season and uh and then also

456
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: obviously her ey. I was like, who is this woman?

457
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: Let me see who? Yeah, my friends think would be

458
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: a good match for me and stuff. If I could

459
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: be a good match for her. That was kind of

460
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: my own little research on the side. And then um,

461
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: once I officially found out, Once I officially found out

462
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: that I was on that I made it and I

463
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: was on the show. I watched a couple episodes of

464
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: Katie season while I was packing, um, just to see like, okay,

465
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: so what am I getting myself into? And then m yeah,

466
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: you know, I see some wild stuff. I see a

467
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: cat costume, and I was like, oh my gosh, this

468
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: is this is what I'm about to do. And you know, Mom,

469
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: she kept Mom's kept it real with me, and she's like, hey,

470
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, two rules like bring Michelle back home and

471
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: no costumes. All like, oh, no costumes, so easy, Like

472
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: no costumes, of course I wouldn't wear a costume, and

473
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: then yeah, I switched out last a minute. I was like, okay,

474
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: I want to stand out and this would be the

475
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: best way possible. So yeah, that's that's kind of how

476
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: the journey started. What did she say, why you go costume?

477
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm dying. That's funny because because Michelle when okay, so

478
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 1: for hometowns Michelle and I told her firsthand, but I

479
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: think moms was so caught up in the excitement. Um

480
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: she I don't even think it went in one ear

481
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: out the other, and I was okay, Mom, Like to

482
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: get to the point where I'm at with Michelle, it

483
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: took me a lot. I just need to understand I

484
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: had to break some rules to keep you. And so

485
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: I think she's just like, yeah, yeah, great, great, and

486
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: man it's great. Yeah afterwards, when the afterwards in the

487
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: episode airs and the promos come out, she's like, wait

488
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: a minute, you were serious, like you were an apt

489
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: secret Mom. Sorry, like you know, I had to stand out.

490
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: I had, But then you're like, mom and kids worse.

491
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: I didn't just wear a costume. I was full on

492
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: naked on my first day at this moment when she

493
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: first showed that, because once again that night, me and

494
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: Michelle told her and she's just like, yeah, yeah, great, great,

495
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 1: glad to see you. And then the truth comes out

496
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: and she sees the promo. She's like, Robbie what he

497
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: was like? Do you just own me? Like you just

498
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: own me two rules, like you know, the third rule

499
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: of not being naked, of not being naked, like that

500
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: should go without saying, right, he's not going to be naked. No,

501
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: then you put me in there. It's like I'm going

502
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: all in for Michelle, It's like, oh that was that

503
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: was crazy too good. I really trusted Tasia before that night.

504
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: I was really hurt. Best part, though, they broke my

505
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: trust that Yeah, honestly, the best part is that you

506
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: didn't realize that we were upstairs and we could see you.

507
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: We kept screaming your name, but you were blocked out,

508
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure. And then all of a sudden you look

509
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: up and you're like, oh, because like you was right there. No.

510
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: We were like it was so good you actually naked

511
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: for Oh my god, it was a good. It was

512
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: probably a good five minute. It was the worst time minutes. Um.

513
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,199
Speaker 1: It was yeah, Tatia's not lying because I was just

514
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: so blacked out and in the zone and just trying

515
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: to get through the moment. I was like, oh, I

516
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: can't but make this is happening. And then I shoot

517
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: my boys all the way up. Boys. It just shouting

518
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: out like go run, I look up. That was like

519
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: my five seconds to hope, is like I could get

520
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: through this. I can be through this. And then I

521
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: finished the run and then cameras are all zoomed in.

522
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, please leave me, please. And then

523
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the I see ta shirt Kaitlyn

524
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: just busting up laughing. I was like, like I was.

525
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: We were like, yeah, you pretty much stood in front

526
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: of it was it was funny. I was hilarious. I love.

527
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: I was like, if I don't get a roast tonight,

528
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: there's nothing more I could do. There's nothing more. Hey

529
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: ba baby, balls to the walls. I will say like,

530
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: if I was in your position, I'd be kind of pissed, because,

531
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: like you see all these extravagant dates with concerts and

532
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: hot air balloons and fireworks, and then they're just like

533
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: Rodney stripped down. You're right naked, Cardio have fun. Everyone

534
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: else was so classy and cool, and then I get

535
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: to run around naked. I'm just like, oh my god,

536
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: mama's gonna kill well. You were. You were honestly the

537
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: best guy to be on that date. And I think

538
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: she picked you because she knew you were you were

539
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: just gonna have fun with it. There's some guys or

540
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: anyone who would be like, Nope, I'm not doing that.

541
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable and just like really shut down,

542
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: and you just owned it and it was so much fun.

543
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: As if you were to watch. I always love when

544
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: people get block bloxed. It's one of my favorite things

545
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: of the show. Um. Going with her planning those one

546
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: on ones, I thought it was just so perfectly planned

547
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: for each person. Yeah, it was great. She's so attentive. Um. Yes,

548
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: she really picked each guy for each date. And I

549
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: think like wanted you all to feel comfortable, even if

550
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: it's very uncomfortab situation. Um, and you know, it's all

551
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: in good fun round me. We were we were laughing

552
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: with you. Now. Let's get into that date though, because

553
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: it wasn't all ahearted we obviously saw you guys sit

554
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: down and get a little bit deeper, and in that moment,

555
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: you would expressed to her that you felt like you

556
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: were the underdog. And for me, just not only watching

557
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: you but now getting to know you, how could you

558
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: ever feel like you were the underdog? I don't get that.

559
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: I don't understand. No, that's that's definitely a great question.

560
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: Um that that sentiment and that feeling was definitely towards

561
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: the start of the process. So in the first two

562
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: to three weeks, I definitely kind of had that feeling.

563
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: I very high self awareness. Now I definitely have confidence.

564
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I made that known. So

565
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: a lot of my itms I would still talk about, hey,

566
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: I have a humble confidence. You know, I've never been

567
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: cocky in my life, but I definitely have a humble confidence. Um,

568
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: And I do have selfing awareness and I know where

569
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: I stand and I know what I bring to the table.

570
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: And that's kind of more so what I meant. So,

571
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, night one, when I'm walking down the stairs

572
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: and an apple and you know, I get downstairs, everyone's

573
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch. I was like, Okay, I got this,

574
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: I got this. And then I see everyone stand up

575
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: from the couch and I'm like, oh, oh wait a minute, like, okay, Hi,

576
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm Rodney Hig, I'm Rodney High. I'm right. It was

577
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: just you know, everyone there, these guys were amazing, Like

578
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: you see these guys like tall, perfect skin, like just cool, calm, collected.

579
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, I know that I'm different.

580
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm proud to be different, and I'm gonna show that

581
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm More importantly, I'm gonna show Michelle what I bring

582
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: to the table and what makes me different, what makes

583
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: me unique, and how I could stand out in this situation,

584
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: in this crazy experience. So I'm so glad that that

585
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: message finally did come across. And at first when I

586
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: started off in the house, I did make it clear

587
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: to her. I said, hey, you know, i do feel

588
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of like an underdog, but I'm proud of that.

589
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, and i know where I stand

590
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: and I'm ready for that challenge. And especially me being

591
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: a former athlete, I kind of just took that head on.

592
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: And you know, growing up the locker rooms playing football, like,

593
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: I was always ready for that moment. In my entire life.

594
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: I always was, and you know, I would try to

595
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: find my ways to stand out and start and be

596
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: ready for the challenge, and so I kind of took

597
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: that mentality into this setting, which is kind of crazy

598
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,719
Speaker 1: because it's like I'm not on a football field competing

599
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: for a game. I'm in here competing for love, and

600
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: so it's completely different, but I still kind of kept

601
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: that same mindset. I guess I couldn't help it, just

602
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: because there is so much of my personality and my

603
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: persona growing up. But towards the end of it all,

604
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: especially kind of speaking more towards that home of confidence,

605
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Michelle and I both made it clear to each other

606
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: like we started off as that, and now if you

607
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: look at us now, I don't know if you want

608
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: to call it lay bloomers, underdogs, whatever it may be.

609
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: We're really proud of looking back to where we started

610
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: in our lives to where we are now. And I'm

611
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: so proud of her and seeing her journey unfold firsthand

612
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: and me being a part of that, and then also

613
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: her being part of like story and my growth, and

614
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: that's something that's really exciting for me. So yeah, I

615
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: definitely felt like I started as an underdog. But no

616
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: matter what, whether I kept that titled or not. I'm

617
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: very proud of myself and happy of who I am,

618
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: who I've become. And yeah, I definitely don't really see

619
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: myself as the underdog anymore. I love that so much.

620
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: And I will say, as you might not be the

621
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: tallest in the room, but I think your personality is

622
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: definitely the biggest and make for everybody else. So you

623
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like, yeah, I love

624
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: that you have that humble confidence, but I want to

625
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: know exactly where that comes from. I know, obviously we've

626
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: talked about your mom and we got to meet her

627
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: doing your hometown. We love your mom, by the way,

628
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: sas with your mother, I love her so much, maybe

629
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: more than you. I'm just kidding. But tell me about that, Like,

630
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: was she the one that really always instilled that confidence

631
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: in you and really nurtured that? Yes, most definitely, I know.

632
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: I kind of briefly tell so on that in the

633
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: show and during the season of where I come from,

634
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: my family dynamic and kind of growing up with a

635
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: single mom and why we are so close and so

636
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: for her to be both mom and dad, Yes, she

637
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: had to be very nurturing, but at the same time

638
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: she understood she's got to be the one that instill

639
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: that confidence in me. So we all were student athletes

640
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: in my family, and so we were very proud of

641
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: that and want to make sure that that those steps

642
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of helped me to get to where I am

643
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: in life now in terms of growing that confidence. And

644
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's we were just at my nephew's

645
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: football game yesterday and she's still yelling in the stands.

646
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: She would make sure like after games, postgame, pre game,

647
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, like, she's like, know who you are,

648
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: be ready to play and get out there, let's go.

649
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: And so she really did help me kind of make

650
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: sure that I still had that that confidence and I

651
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: was really ready for any situation in life, you know,

652
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: on and off the football field. And I think kind

653
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: of growing up with those values. Yes, she was very nurturing,

654
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: but at the same time, she was very strict on

655
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: making sure, hey, you are confident and know who you are.

656
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: You guys are my sons, be ready for the real world,

657
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: and this is this is how you here with your life.

658
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: And so her instilling those values in me U really

659
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: had me kind of prepared for this situation, which we

660
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: all know is so crazy, but a lot of the

661
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: guys they would they would show up night one night too,

662
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: and they didn't really know what to do, how to act,

663
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: or really kind of just nervous into themselves. And I said, hey,

664
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: just be you, be who you are, and I do

665
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: owe that to my mom and just saying, hey, like

666
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone says or what the world

667
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: says about you, like be Rodney Matthews, and you will

668
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 1: be fine. And that really did help me get to

669
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: where I am now. Well, speaking of being prepared for

670
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,479
Speaker 1: any situation, Yes, I have to be this person because

671
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: I love your mother so much that I know. I

672
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: know it's a week day, but I'm thinking we need

673
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: to get her on happy hour for a couple of minutes.

674
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: Can we make this happen? Can we FaceTime her? Yeahime,

675
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: oh this is wild. Okay, she's probably kind of busy,

676
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: but I understand. You know, we work comes first podcast.

677
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: I love it. Um, let's just try let's just try her.

678
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: Let's try it. Your mom everything that she wasn't gonna

679
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: be Jess meeting Michelle, but she's gonna meet two other

680
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: women as well. Hello, your biggest heart of the Boucher fam.

681
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: Now she's stuck with us. Now's the time. Okay, ladies,

682
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: you got me nervous for this. Okay, let's see how

683
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: this goes. Yeah, I would be nervous if I were you.

684
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: We have some questions, We got good questions. He's like,

685
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: please don't answer, Please don't answer. Yeah, I just hang

686
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: up on this. Oh my goodness, Hey, mom, Mom's I

687
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: got a couple of people that I want you to meet. Okay, alright, UM,

688
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: here is Tasia and Becca. Can you please say hi?

689
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: Can you lay see Welcome, Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

690
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: I bet you didn't think you were going to be

691
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: on a podcast this morning. Huh? Can I call you? Mom? Ever?

692
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: We have been raving about how much we love your son,

693
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: but we also fell in love with you during hometowns.

694
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: You've raised such an incredible child. Um, so I want

695
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: to just pick your brain. Rodney told us before leaving

696
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: for the show, you said no costumes and to bring

697
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: Michelle home. He broke her first rule, obviously, he showed

698
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: up in the Apple costume. What is any other advice

699
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: that you gave him before he left. That's a great question,

700
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: believe it or not. Um, it was very short and sweet,

701
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: and I told him to just be yourself and everything

702
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: was from there. Oh, so we love that he was

703
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: just saying that too. It's really you that has instilled

704
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: that confidence to just be himself and really embrace that.

705
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: I think that that's what's taken him so far in

706
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: life thus far. Um, But are you are you proud

707
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: of watching him on the show? I know there have

708
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: been a little bit of suggested moments that maybe maybe

709
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: he could have avoided possibly, but he was doing it

710
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: all for love. So are you proud? What a great

711
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: description suggested? It was actually mortified, ladies. You threw that together.

712
00:38:52,640 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm still here, so she I'm dying, I know. However,

713
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: you know you, guys, I am so very proud of him,

714
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: and we were both very excited for him to go

715
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: on this journey. And like I said before, I just

716
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: told him to being self. But as you guys can

717
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: clearly see, and I'm so glad that the world knows now,

718
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: Ronie's extremely genuine and what you see is what you get,

719
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: and I can be more proud. I have such a

720
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: big heart for everybody that has the courage to go

721
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: on shows like these, and the courage to be open

722
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: and be vulnerable. And just to try and find lab

723
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: as you guys know, it's it's it's a quiet task.

724
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: And so I'm proud of all of the gentlemen, but

725
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: mostly proud of Ronie. Well. I'm so happy we are

726
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: able to talk to you now because your love radiated

727
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: through the TV screen when you were hometowns and it

728
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: is doing the same now. And one thing that I

729
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: appreciate about you is you have so much love and

730
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: care and respect for your son, but you also were

731
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: very real and you were very logical in the process,

732
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: and at that point knowing he was still one of

733
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: four men vying for Michelle's heart, and I can only

734
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: imagine as a mother what that would feel like. Of course,

735
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: you want the best for your son and you want

736
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: him to find love. So if you had to give

737
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: advice to any other mothers or parents out there who

738
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: who are watching their children go through something similar, what

739
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: would that advice be for them? I don't know if

740
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: I shared with you, but we are very faith based

741
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: and very connected and strong in my thing, So for

742
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: us it was a lot of prayer. But I can

743
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: also tell you that you know, being a parent at

744
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: any age is quite a difficult task, but it's also

745
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 1: an amazing feeling. However, you know, with having adult children,

746
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: you need to let go at some point and really

747
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: let them make the best choices, because if you've been

748
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: doing a good job so far, they're going to be

749
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: able to make sound and informed decisions. And so I

750
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: just know that as adults, you can only do your

751
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: best when they're younger, and then you need to let

752
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: them fly. And so you need to let them be

753
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: able to go do their thing, hopefully make good choices

754
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: and give them the best advice as possible, but always

755
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: make sure that they understand how much they have loved

756
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: and supportive no matter what their choices may be. Oh wow,

757
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: you remind me so much of my mom. Was just

758
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: going to say all this, I have a mom's a

759
00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: union one day out in California. Seriously, I really I

760
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: come from a huge faith based family too, and all

761
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: this just resonates with me. It was just like praying

762
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: and just like letting them spread their wings, like you've

763
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: done your job at this point. Like I think that's

764
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: something that my mom said as well. It is just

765
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: like she knows that she did the best that she

766
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: could and she has full confidence that I will continue

767
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: that on, which is why you going can be proud.

768
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: But I want to know what is the advice you

769
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: have for any lucky woman that gets to snag Rodney's

770
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: heart one day? Oh my goodness, that's quite a challenging question.

771
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: She's like, wow, full force on the Monday. I love it.

772
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: I love guns of blazon. I to say, you know,

773
00:42:53,120 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: love is um genuine love needs to be resuprecated, and

774
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: they respect. Honesty and laugh that they have from one

775
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: another is the most important thing. And I'm always telling

776
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Ronnie even now to be genuine and to be honest

777
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: and respectful. And I know that she is going to

778
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: need bad in return, and it's just such important qualities

779
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: and relationships. But he laughs and laughs hard. And my

780
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: prayers that she will find somebody to do the same

781
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: form him. Are you trying to make me cry? I'm

782
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: really confused. All I have to say is whoever gets

783
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: Rodney not only gets a great man, but a great

784
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: future mother in law as well, So she will be

785
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: one lucky woman. All right, be a part of your name.

786
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: We know that you are so busy. I just I

787
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: don't even have a question for you, moms. This actually

788
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: goes to Rodney but I think it's going to be

789
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: important for you to hear, just because I know I

790
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: can own imagine how much Rodney loves you. So he

791
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: had mentioned that he had described you as a wonder woman.

792
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: So Rodney, can you explain that a little bit further,

793
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: because I feel like moms don't always hear how great

794
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: they are enough. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. I know her

795
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: and I've had a lot of talks about this. But

796
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up my entire life like loving superheroes,

797
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: and so I was very big on like superhero movies

798
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: and comics and stuff growing up. You know. So I

799
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: remember asking my mom very young, you know, mom, was

800
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: your favorite superio? She always said Wonderoman, And I just

801
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: thought that resonated with me so quickly because I was like, oh, Okay,

802
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: that's amazing, that's perfect, because like you're my wonder woman mom,

803
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: And so that was kind of like a special moment

804
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: we had growing up, and even like seeing the movies

805
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: in the comics today and stuff like that. But I

806
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: think that's always what made it so special for me

807
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: is because I've we started together and I saw the

808
00:44:55,320 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: struggle very early on of her working jobs to support me.

809
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: And my brother and make sure that we have food

810
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: on the table. To seeing the successful woman that she

811
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: is now, all the lives that she impacts on a

812
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: daily basis, and especially in our community with our foster

813
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: youth and youth and starting her own nonprofit and starting

814
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: mental health awareness, and it's been a very big deal

815
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: for us. And so to see her pave the way

816
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: in our community has been very influential for me because

817
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: now especially you know, you know, bragging about Mom's all

818
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: the posts about her all the time, but you know,

819
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: she just wanted award out here for being the number

820
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: one entrepreneur from the nonprofit sector in our community. And

821
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: then we just celebrated our first annual Christmas dala. So

822
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, each and every day she's striving to become

823
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: the best version of herself that she could be, and

824
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: so she's really instilled that in the me as well.

825
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: And it's just been very exciting to kind of see

826
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: her journey as well, starting from where we started from

827
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: to the successful woman she is now and impacting lots

828
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: that she does. So she really paved the way, and

829
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 1: I really want to continue that legacy of really, obviously

830
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: in my world, kind of making people laugh and smile,

831
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: but also showing and spreading genuine, true pure love enjoy

832
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: each and every day. So that's something that's well. Congrats

833
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: on winning that award and Grat's mom. He could not

834
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: have gone to a more deserving woman. Truthfully, you know

835
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: you just hearing him speak like that really does bring joy.

836
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: Part here's lady, thank you for asking that question. It

837
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: is amazing to hear that. Thank you. Thank you for

838
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: being such a sportive and strong mom and father, and

839
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: Roddy's and I have because you've made an amazing son.

840
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: So Roddy's got big shoes to Phil. Absolutely all right,

841
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: well we'll let you go. It was so good to

842
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: meet you. Got a good word. Thank you. Feel lated.

843
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I didn't think I was gonna get

844
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: tearious day. Look for me. I'm not gonna lie. No,

845
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: I love love your mom. In fact, you can actually

846
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: go back to work. We'll just have your mom come

847
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: back on. Actually, like I actually just want to see

848
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: your mom. I don't want to see you your ale.

849
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: But Ronny, I gotta say. The apple doesn't fall far

850
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: from the tree. Was code it? I feel so clever

851
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: right now? Okayoo um, thank you for sharing her with us.

852
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: Honestly that I love special moments like that where you

853
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: know you don't quite expect it to happen. You know,

854
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: we weren't planning on calling your mom today, but I'm

855
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: so glad she was able to join us. What a

856
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: treat she is. I love her. She seems so sweet. Um. Okay, okay,

857
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: enough with the tears. We don't even get all snappy

858
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: and emotions. Seriously, I was not expecting that. I know

859
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: that was that was wonderful. But let's get into some

860
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: of the juicy stuff from from mental All, because I mean,

861
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: you lived it. What was the atmosphere like when you

862
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: were sitting amongst all these men, because again, you were

863
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: so cool, calm, collected as the men were going back

864
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: and forth and just it was like this petty drama

865
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: fights between a lot of them. Um, So what was

866
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: the atmosphere like in that room? Oh my gosh, um,

867
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: it was just so so wild, so tense. Um. To

868
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: be honest, like, I didn't know what to expect from

869
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: Mental All. I don't know why. I thought it would

870
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: be a little bit more calm, but it wasn't. Ours

871
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: was just it was just non stop, just a lot

872
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: of a lot of like bickering, arguing stuff like that.

873
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: And uh, obviously, as do you know, as you've seen,

874
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: I really stay out of drama all the time. So

875
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: for me to kind of sit right there next to

876
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: it and just kind of be involved with the entire time,

877
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: I was like, guys, guys, we got to move on.

878
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: And I would literally check to see Kaitlin and Tasha

879
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: and just see the face of what we're going through,

880
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: because I know when we're thinking the same thing, I'm like, oh,

881
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: can you please just move on? And um, I would

882
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: I would check to see them. They'll be like, yeah,

883
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: we need to move on, and I would try to

884
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: be the guy that would turn back and like Peter

885
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: will we got to stop argument, our guys, We've got

886
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 1: to stop argument. Let's move on to the next section

887
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: because this is way too much of So Yeah, honestly,

888
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: it was just a really it was a really long night. UM,

889
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: much more crazier than I ever expected it to be. UM.

890
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: And you know, just a lot of shots taking a

891
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: lot of shots fired that night. Crazy. I like to

892
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: stay out of it. It's just more which I think

893
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: is the smart brow to take. Yeah, I agree, especially

894
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: with all of that. I mean, they were honestly running

895
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: around in circles and it was it was a lot

896
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: to listen to. Um, But who are you most looking

897
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: forward to hearing from that night? So I feel like

898
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: watching it back, you definitely kind of grow some you

899
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: have some opinions, and you see a lot of things

900
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: that you didn't see it in front of you. So

901
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: who did you want to hear from? Um? Wow, that's

902
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: a great question. I was honestly really excited to really

903
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: see everybody, just to reconnect and kind of have that reunion,

904
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: but also at the same time, I know I was

905
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: looking forward to to an apology from I'd probably have

906
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: to say Jamie because you know, at first, a lot

907
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: of guys in the house did look up to him,

908
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: and I only had a couple of conversations with him

909
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: starting off, but I thought the exact same thing everyone

910
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: else did, because you know, he is a really smart,

911
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: intelligent guy. Yeah, and um, you know, I think deep

912
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: down he has the ability to be a great guy.

913
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: I think he just made so many mistakes and I

914
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: really disagree with what he did on the show and

915
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: what he said and how it how it sat with me,

916
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: and so you know, I really had to let him

917
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: know and tell him straight up. And it sucks because

918
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: it was actually towards the end of the night, and

919
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember take show, but starting off, yeah,

920
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: starting off, Jamie wasn't really showing the remorse we needed

921
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: him to show. And towards the end of the night,

922
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: I think he sat right next to me and he

923
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: looked at me, He's like, do you understand what I'm saying?

924
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: I said, honestly, I'm really trying to, but I can't.

925
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: And I think I could speak for everyone else when

926
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I can't understand what you're saying because I'm

927
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: not hearing the genuine apology that I need you to

928
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: tell us. You not only disrespected us as men, but

929
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: you disrespected Michelle and her time. And I really need

930
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: you to feel for that because that one hurt me,

931
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: and it takes a lot to actually hurt me. It

932
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: cut me deep, and I feel for the men, and

933
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: more importantly, I feel for Michelle, who we're all here for,

934
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: and so I need you to give us that apologies,

935
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: show us some remorse, and show us that you actually

936
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: mean it so we could just move on with the night.

937
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: And so you know, it was obviously maybe too little

938
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: too but he finally ended up giving us an apology

939
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: that we needed, and I'm glad that Michelle once again

940
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: kind of noticed that recognized and say, hey, you know,

941
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: I thank you for the apology. However, actions do speak

942
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: louder than words, So I hope you continue to grow

943
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: past this show. So yeah, that was that was really

944
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: one thing I was looking forward. Yeah, I think like

945
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: it maybe affected him differently because number when you weren't

946
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: somebody that was kind of attacking him, but you also

947
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: did it in a cool collective manner that you're just

948
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: like I get what you're trying to do, but like

949
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: it actually is hurting me. And I think just the

950
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: way that a lot of the guys were approaching it,

951
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: obviously out of anger. Always it just might not be

952
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: the best way. But I was actually shocked when he said,

953
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: hold on a second, like I'm actually gonna give an

954
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: apology now, because we were trying to get that the

955
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: entire evening. I want to ask you, as somebody who

956
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: was there who also knew the men because you lived

957
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: together for a while between the because we saw a

958
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: lot of apologies are it went to well, I felt

959
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: like it was an apology tour for some of these men,

960
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: between Jamie Martin, Chris s even I would say Peter

961
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: and Will with each other. Do you feel like a

962
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: lot of those apologies were true and we're honest and

963
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: that they meant it, or did you feel like it

964
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: was just because they were caught they were called out

965
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: on a television show. The only one from that night

966
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: I was a little worried and concerned about was Chris,

967
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: because I know Chris starting off in the house, you know,

968
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: everyone was really close, and Chris was close to a

969
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: lot of people as well, and I know We've all

970
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: had a lot of good talks and I've had some

971
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: discussions with Chris as well, so I think to put

972
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: it in the most respectful way possible. That night, I

973
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: was a little bit more disappointed in Chris's approach and

974
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: apology because it just didn't it didn't feel as as genuine,

975
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: and I was really hoping that he was going to

976
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 1: show us that, and not to say in terms of

977
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: redemption because maybe it was. But he spoke the least

978
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: that night, and I was really hoping that he would

979
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: he would he would speak up and say, hey, you

980
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: know I'm sorry for what I said, I'm sorry for

981
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 1: what I did, and I was kind of looking forward

982
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: more to that, and I feel like that was the

983
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: only one that night I didn't really get, and that

984
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: one sucked because we all started off pretty close, and

985
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: once again, I didn't really agree with with how that right.

986
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: It's just interesting because typically watching it back kind of

987
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: like makes you kind of realize, oh shit, did I

988
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: really do that? And did I really say those things?

989
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: And unfortunately he didn't really feel the need to say

990
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry or apologize for that. But a lot of

991
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: things happened. Like you said, it was a very eventful evening,

992
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you guys kind of got to hash

993
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: out a lot of the things, not necessarily specifically, but

994
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys did, and it was nice

995
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: to see some of those apologies we made. But you

996
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: had an effect on a lot of people and influenced

997
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people, even a man in the crowd um.

998
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: In fact, you gave him a lot of courage to

999
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: um actually streak in front of my eyes, which I

1000
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: never want to ever see again. And I really blame

1001
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: you for that. I do not want to influence people

1002
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: in that way at all. You're giving them courage, Rodney,

1003
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: but I don't need that much courage, Okay, not in

1004
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: that way. I was like, sir, please, sir, please, Oh

1005
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: my god, you're very inspirational. Let's leave it at that.

1006
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: Very inspirational and something. We did it all think what happened,

1007
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: but thankfully security was there. Um, this was the first

1008
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: time that you saw Michelle since she sent you home

1009
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: after hometowns. And I'm assuming correct me if I'm wrong,

1010
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: but that was the first time watching you actually get

1011
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to use this word only eminated, but

1012
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: was that your first time watching it back? Yes, it was, okay,

1013
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 1: and obviously, I mean you had very strong feelings. You

1014
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: got you for Michelle. You had such a strong connection

1015
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: between the two of you, and I think even after

1016
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: meeting the family, it just bonded you so much more

1017
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: so having to relive that. What was going through your

1018
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: mind watching that back and then knowing she's about to

1019
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 1: come out and you're going to see her for the

1020
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:34,720
Speaker 1: first time again, Um, it was. It was a crazy feeling,

1021
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: to say the least. Um, you know, kind of like

1022
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: a kind of kind of like a shaking a little bit,

1023
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: you know. I was just so excited and anxious to

1024
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: see her, but also kind of like nervous, you know.

1025
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: I really that's kind of just how I felt at first.

1026
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: And then she gets out there and starts talking, and

1027
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: once again I felt at ease. And she is really good.

1028
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have seen her, but she's really good.

1029
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: I just really comforting you and kind of making you,

1030
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: making you feel calm and so um. It really put

1031
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: me back, and it really put me back in that

1032
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: in that presence, in that space with her making sure

1033
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: like I felt, I felt good, I felt comfortable and um.

1034
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: Even though it was it was definitely tough to to

1035
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: see her at first, I knew, I knew that it

1036
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: needed to be done, and I was still it was

1037
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: really kind of like bitter sweet, but I was really

1038
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: excited to see her and for us both to kind

1039
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: of obviously, I mean, I'm sure that she has moved on.

1040
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: She's you know, she's amazing. And for me, I think

1041
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: it was kind of more so closure for myself and

1042
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: us seeing each other, me being able to speak to

1043
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: her again, um, us kind of laugh and joke and

1044
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: still share hug. At the end of the night. It

1045
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: was just something like her and I both know where

1046
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: we stand and how we support and care for each other,

1047
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: and she knows that no matter what, I'm always gonna

1048
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: cheer her on. I was gonna root for her, and

1049
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: I mentioned it at mental all that I'm always going

1050
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: to be team Michelle and root for her happiness. And

1051
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: like I said, I know the Calvin men that were

1052
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: in there, so no matter what I knew, if it

1053
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: wasn't with me, that she was going to be happy

1054
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: with one of these three amazing men who I know

1055
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: their character and you know there they were each ready

1056
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: to truly fall in love with Michelle and give her

1057
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: the world as well, just just as myself. So I was.

1058
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: I was really just happy for her and for her

1059
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: to kind of say the same thing, like I'm always

1060
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna be team Rodney, always going to tear you on,

1061
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 1: and I wish you nothing but the best in happiness

1062
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: and success. It just made me feel so much better

1063
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: and it really gave me the closure, the closure I

1064
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 1: needed that night to truly kind of move on from

1065
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: that relationship and from that connection that we had. So

1066
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm always going to cheer her on and always have

1067
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: her back. I love that well, it seems like she's

1068
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: always going to have your back too. I mean, you

1069
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: have always said your team Michelle. She's always been team Rodney,

1070
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: so much so that after she sent you home, she

1071
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,919
Speaker 1: gave you some love on her Instagram. What was I'm

1072
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: so glad that she shared that with the world because

1073
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: it just reiterates how incredible of a man and just

1074
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: overall human you are. What was your reaction to seeing that?

1075
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: That just made me smile so big. I was just

1076
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: so happy happy to see that, because you know, we're

1077
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: human beings and we all want we all want the

1078
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: feeling to be neutual. And so even though Michelle and

1079
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: I did not share that love connection, that romantic connection,

1080
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: we could still we could still support each other and

1081
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: we could still care deeply for each other. And so

1082
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: that really made me happy. And seeing that once again,

1083
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: she's so great with that. But she always like gives

1084
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: me the confirmation I need that. Hey, I know she

1085
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: needed to be seen. I wanted to be seen as

1086
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: well in this process, and she always made sure where

1087
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: I was. She always made me like I was the

1088
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: only guy in the room no matter what we're going through.

1089
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: And so Michelle is just so great with that and

1090
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: seeing that post like just made me smile so big.

1091
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just glad that the feeling is mutual.

1092
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: Like everything she said just resonated with me so deeply.

1093
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,439
Speaker 1: Um and yeah, I just really it really made me smile.

1094
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: I was really happy to see him. It made us

1095
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: happy too. Well, you're a good one, Rodney, and we're

1096
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: so happy that you're able to grace her screens. Hopefully

1097
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: we'll see you again soon. Maybe I don't known. The

1098
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: beach is a paradise. Um, if not, Ronny, would you

1099
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: do it? Would you? We need to know. Tish and

1100
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: I had had a conver small conversation about this before

1101
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: you joined us. Um, I really don't know. I don't know.

1102
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: That's a that's kind of a tough decision for me.

1103
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can't read you right now,

1104
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of want to, but not really,

1105
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I just I'm not too sure, especially right

1106
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: now you've ben thinking about it's way too soon. Um.

1107
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, when the time comes, you got

1108
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: six months were to be I mean, it just it

1109
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: really depends right now. I definitely need a mental break,

1110
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: but you know, when the time arises, as I'm not sure.

1111
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: I won't completely write it off, but it would take

1112
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: a lot of thought and consideration. Oh what a good answer. Hey, listen, Okay,

1113
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: I was you? I Well, no, I wasn't you. I

1114
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: always said I would never, ever ever do it. Okay,

1115
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: then identation. I have very different experiences from Paradise to continue.

1116
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: But I would say, as somebody who has been on

1117
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, who was Bachelorrette and who then decided to

1118
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: do Paradise because I needed to film my summer with

1119
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 1: something fun. Paradise was the most fun I've ever had

1120
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: filming the most fun. I would say, if you have

1121
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: no plans, if you're not in a relationship at that point,

1122
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: give it a go. Also, we just want to see

1123
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: more of you on our big screens. Okay, yeah, I'll leave.

1124
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: I'll stop talking. Stop talking about Paradise right now. I

1125
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: don't want to give you my opinion on all that.

1126
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: So Becca, I think we have a little game, don't

1127
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: we always have games? Yeah? We love our games. I

1128
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: love games. Okay, Well, we're gonna play a little game, um,

1129
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: and we're gonna give you a most likely too, and

1130
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to finish a sentence with the name

1131
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: of someone in Michelle's group of guys. We have asked

1132
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: all the guys um these questions, and your name came

1133
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: up quite often. So now that we have the man,

1134
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: the midth, the legend here, let's see what you have

1135
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: to say about everybody else, let's do it. Okay, So

1136
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: first one most likely to get the party started if

1137
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: he says me for all of these, I'm going to die.

1138
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: That got brand, Nate? Okay? Okay, yeah, see we always

1139
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: get you for that one. Really, Yeah, there are there's

1140
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: a call in here where we already know it's gonna

1141
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: be Rodney out of the men's mouth. So, um, who

1142
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: is most likely to start drama? Wo um? Oh that's

1143
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: a tough one. I have to go with. I have

1144
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: to go with Peter. Okay, I've had that one before too.

1145
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that ever. Okay, Um, most likely to

1146
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: get the guys laughing. Um, you know what I'll say.

1147
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: I'll say Nate something. I'll say, Nate. Are you just

1148
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: saying because he's your best friend? Yeah? Wait? What is

1149
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: you easy out? I think just us us as a

1150
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 1: pair of roommates. Like everyone knew as soon as Nate

1151
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: roddy walking, You're gonna laugh. It's mile some way somehow,

1152
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: So I think that's just how I love it. I

1153
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: love hearing about these friendships. Okay, Who's most likely to

1154
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: leave their wallet at home? Oh? Wow, Um, I'm gonna

1155
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: go with I'm gonna go with Daniel. I'm gonna go

1156
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: with my boy Dade. I don't know why I'm saying it,

1157
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: but he's really good with the salsa hips, so I

1158
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: think he could. I could see him before he leaves,

1159
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: and then the wallet slips out, and then he pulls

1160
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: up without no wallet, So I'm gonna have to go

1161
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: in very okay. Most likely to start a dance party,

1162
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: Oh my boy le Roy? Yeah, no, Roy, most definitely. Yeah,

1163
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: he's got gigs. He would always get me hyped up.

1164
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: We heard he's a good dancer. Yeah, why didn't we

1165
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: see any of this? Mad, We didn't get to see

1166
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: any of that. I told him too. I was like,

1167
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to see more of you on my screen,

1168
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: like I miss you man, Like you know, he's such

1169
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: a he's such a great guy. Um, he's such an

1170
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 1: amazing person. Yeah, not enough of Leroy. Maybe in Paradise

1171
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: when um you joined two. Who's most likely to skinny

1172
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: dip in the pool. M great question. Um, I don't

1173
01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: know why I'm thinking Martin and or Brandon. Don't know

1174
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: why I'm figuring Oh wow, we would. We would work

1175
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: out together, shirts off and everything, and I feel like

1176
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: they would just be ready to hop it. Okay, okay, okay.

1177
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: Who's most likely to go to bed first? Oh? That's

1178
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: definitely one hundred percent sleepy Joe cool all he needs

1179
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: that man just needs a pillow and he's out. Man.

1180
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: I love that guy. He's amazing. Uh yeah, no, he

1181
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: just needs a pillows, A man after my own heart. Okay,

1182
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: besides Nate who I was just gonna say that, who's

1183
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: most likely to be a groomsman in your wedding? You

1184
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: can't say Nate. Besides Nate. Okay, let's see they're They're

1185
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: all amazing. Um, as you can tell, I connected with

1186
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 1: so many of them, were so close. I'd have to

1187
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: go besides Nate. I'd have to go with Joe. I'd

1188
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: have to go with Yeah. Okay, okay, So we had

1189
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: one guy perhaps that question. We had we had a

1190
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: one guy on who literally named I think everyone on

1191
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: the season, And I was like, you're going to have

1192
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: a massive Boucher party. Um okay, one last question before

1193
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: we go, we ask everyone this overall from the season,

1194
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: what was your rose and what was your thorn? Great question?

1195
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: Um my rose Marie Rose would have to be two

1196
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: moments of First Michelle and I on the pond Um

1197
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: from my one on one day that is easily, by

1198
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: far the most romantic day I've ever been on, but

1199
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: also just being with her, sharing space with her, having

1200
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: that moment, her sharing her story, me telling mine, us

1201
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: connecting on that pond um and on that boat. It

1202
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: was just amazing. It was. It was an amazing night

1203
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: and it's just so beautiful. I loved it. And second

1204
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: one would have to be my behind the back shot

1205
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: that I mean, I mean, that's just lucky and shot

1206
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: in my life. And of course it would happen on

1207
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: the Bachelrette, so it was iconic. It was an amazing,

1208
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: amazing day. It was my second moment. Now my thorn

1209
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: would have to be my thorn would have to be

1210
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: You ladies already know this sleep and the hours insane,

1211
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know I could say that, but yeah,

1212
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 1: I was just so tired. I was a zombie. You

1213
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: could tell. Night one I'm like falling asleep at the

1214
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: Rose ceremony and she calls my name, I'm like, okay, great,

1215
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: thank you say I'm so excited. And people are like,

1216
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: why are you so mad at the Row ceremony. I'm like,

1217
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just dead tired tired, So that would

1218
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: have to be my only thorn, thankfully. I mean, obviously,

1219
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm pretty positive, so I would never really go off

1220
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: or anything like Ronny even each for I TM, manchat cool,

1221
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: let's do it, let's knock it out. Other guys not

1222
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: so much if we get fed up. It's actually really hilarious.

1223
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: I love those guys so much, but it's really funny

1224
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: when we get fed up. I won't even name names

1225
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: because they know who they are. Oh yeah, it was

1226
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: it was good time, Oh good, all right, Rodney, Well,

1227
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: thank you for jointing us give your mom our best.

1228
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: There's a pleasure to have you today. Thank you so much, ladies.

1229
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. This is so much fun, and

1230
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: I hope to see you. Yeah, see you later. Hi.

1231
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: Oh he's the best, love him, he just he's such

1232
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: a good balance between funny, charismatic but still down to

1233
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: earth and mature like, I know we've already announced and

1234
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: filmed an entire season of the Bachelor, but if that

1235
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: didn't already happen, Rodney would have my vote all the way.

1236
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: I think I would have to be I think I

1237
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 1: would have to agree with you. Um, I think he's

1238
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: He's a total package. It feel like he has so

1239
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,600
Speaker 1: much to offer, and obviously the whole world kind of

1240
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: fell in love with him. He's a good guy to

1241
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:57,839
Speaker 1: his mom is incredible, and his mom is gold. So yeah,

1242
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 1: oh man, yeah I am. I hope he finds just

1243
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: an incredible partner when he's ready. Maybe it'll be on

1244
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: Paradise if I win, maybe not, who knows, but I

1245
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what the future has in store

1246
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: for him. So absolutely it has been a pleasure Tastion.

1247
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 1: I know you're a very busy woman. You gotta run,

1248
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: so thank you for being here again. I love doing

1249
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: this with you. I couldn't do it without you. And

1250
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: a huge thank you to all of our Bachelor Happy

1251
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: Hour listeners. And huge, huge, huge shout out to Rodney

1252
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: and his mom who joined us. I know she was

1253
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of work, so she's incredible for just

1254
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 1: taking ten minutes to chat with us. One more thing

1255
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: before we let you all go, I have to remind

1256
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: you all that we're casting for the Bachelor and the Bachelorette,

1257
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: So please make sure to head to Bachelor nation dot

1258
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: com slash apply to nominate you or somebody else, and

1259
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: make sure to hiss up on social at Bachelor Happy

1260
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,719
Speaker 1: Hour on Instagram, at bache Nation on TikTok and Twitter,

1261
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: and then Bachelor Nation on Facebook. And if you don't

1262
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 1: already follow and subscribe to us, please do so. You

1263
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 1: can do that on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondering App,

1264
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,879
Speaker 1: or wherever you are listening to our love new voices

1265
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: right now, take care of everyone, bad guy,