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Speaker 1: Straight Fire? Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre Street Fire for Friday.

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Speaker 1: May you guys remember when Friday the thirteenth was like

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Speaker 1: is Friday. We have a couple of NBA games tonight.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they will match the intensity. Let me

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Speaker 1: take that back. They may match the intensity that we

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Speaker 1: saw Thursday night. Really good NBA action. Listen to pretty

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Speaker 1: I had a three and o night on the gambling front.

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Speaker 1: been a pretty pretty strong week of guests here at

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Speaker 1: straight Fire. Just an exciting week. Um, and we're wrapping

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Speaker 1: it up with a guy that I think you guys

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Speaker 1: probably know if you read the Ringer dot Com. Brian

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Speaker 1: Curtis stops by covers the media. You know him from

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Speaker 1: Obviously stuff is gonna move. But NFL schedule releases fun.

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Speaker 1: But it was weird because the Sixers were getting their

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Speaker 1: with the Sixers and choking at home Game six as

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Speaker 1: on exactly why I want. It's easy to tweet, it's

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Speaker 1: easy to talk about, and it's perfect to program television shows.

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Speaker 1: It's just I mean, it is like I can react

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Speaker 1: to that. I can have an opinion about what Kyrie

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Speaker 1: Irving is saying about the media, and it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: require me to stretch my to stretch very much to

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Speaker 1: do that. So I think that's what it is. I

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Speaker 1: I am not that interested in it unless the athlete

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Speaker 1: is really saying something different from what they said. I mean,

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Speaker 1: from what what you're talking about, Kyrie, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: exactly what he's been saying on Twitter and in press

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Speaker 1: conferences and in press conferences for multiple seasons. So I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: what are we really what are we learning from what

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is saying in video game land? And that

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Speaker 1: leads me to the next question, like, Okay, if we're

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Speaker 1: learning nothing, it is just a SoundBite for clicks, that's

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Speaker 1: mostly irrelevant. Why is the media covering this? And that

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Speaker 1: leads to kind of the you know, do you of

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Speaker 1: the people what they want, which is, you know, year

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Speaker 1: olds want to know everything Kyrie Irving says or what

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Speaker 1: they need, which is like a meaty story that matters

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Speaker 1: where you're learning something. Well, I think it sort of

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Speaker 1: depends on how you define media, because I think if

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Speaker 1: you and I opened any of the publications we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: certainly the legacy media stuff like the New York Times

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Speaker 1: or I haven't checked the Ringer's homepage in the last

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Speaker 1: ten minutes, but I doubt there's going to be blow

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Speaker 1: by blow coverage of Kyrie Irving said this. But you

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Speaker 1: and I live in Twitter world, and we live in

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Speaker 1: aggregation world, and we sometimes live in TV world, and

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Speaker 1: that's a big story. So I think part of what's

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Speaker 1: interesting here is there is part of the media that

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Speaker 1: is just covering this intensely and is living for that

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Speaker 1: day to day hour to our usually NBA player driven drama,

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Speaker 1: and then there's part of the media that's pretty much

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Speaker 1: ignoring it or holding it off to the side. Maybe

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Speaker 1: if they heard some big discussion about Kyrie will come up,

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Speaker 1: But it's a lot bigger discussion about where did the

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Speaker 1: Nets go from here, how Kyrie and Durant getting along?

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Speaker 1: What is Durant got himself into by signing with the Nets?

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Yeah, so it's weird if you

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Speaker 1: unplugged for a week and go on vacation and you

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Speaker 1: swear to yourself you're not gonna go on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: you don't. You come back and maybe text some friends,

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Speaker 1: hey what did I miss anything big? And they'll just

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Speaker 1: say this, that and the other, and mostly I'm like,

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Speaker 1: who cares? I didn't miss anything? Right? So I don't know, Brian,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to slowly extricate myself from Twitter if possible.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this for several years. I'll do less

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Speaker 1: and less. But it's kind of a necessary evil though.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, And I would argue we probably get

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Speaker 1: more good out of it than bad. As annoying as

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Speaker 1: it is, I mean, one thing is I hear people

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Speaker 1: retreat to this all the time, say why use Twitter

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Speaker 1: for news? You know? I just keep up what's going on.

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Speaker 1: We're I mean, we're all kind of consuming the NFL

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Speaker 1: schedule today, which is its own weird media thing. Uh,

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Speaker 1: kind of total non story that has become a story.

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Speaker 1: But I also like the fact that really smart, funny

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Speaker 1: people are talking about sports a that like, I could

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Speaker 1: look at the Twitter account of my colleague Kevin Clark

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Speaker 1: and Mena Comes and a few other people, like here

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Speaker 1: are some great lines and jokes and observations about the

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Speaker 1: NFL that I would have to like read through a

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Speaker 1: whole column to find, and they just get served to

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Speaker 1: me every thirty minutes or an hour, however often those

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Speaker 1: people put them out there on Twitter. It so like

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Speaker 1: that makes me happy. I'm not gonna I'm like, I know,

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Speaker 1: Twitter makes me unhappy a lot of the time. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at what my competitors are doing, my friends are doing,

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Speaker 1: just getting sucked into weird non stories like you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: But it also makes me happy a lot, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's important to admit that that we get a

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Speaker 1: lot out of it. Interested maybe I'm not following the

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Speaker 1: right people. Kevin Clark is kind of good. But but

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Speaker 1: this will also leads to the Tom Brady News this week,

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Speaker 1: where Tom brady um was announced on a call by

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Speaker 1: the Murdocks that he's going to be joining Fox when

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Speaker 1: his career ends, which is TBD, you know, not Tom Brady. Um,

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Speaker 1: he might play for three more years, maybe one more year,

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Speaker 1: who knows, but Fox is getting him, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: curious from your world. It was one of those weird

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Speaker 1: open ended ones like we've heard like, oh, people want

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees when he's retired. Oh yeah, people clamoring for

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Speaker 1: Drew Brees. Um, Drew Brees is now retired, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: are we that excited about him? How do you kind

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Speaker 1: of sum this up as to what a what Fox

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Speaker 1: is doing and be the whole man? We can't wait

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Speaker 1: for these quarterbacks to retire and join the booth. I

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Speaker 1: think it really goes to how TV has changed since

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Speaker 1: you and I were growing up. We were growing up,

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Speaker 1: the biggest stars were the stars of Seinfeld and Friends.

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Speaker 1: As we've seen, sitcoms and dramas have completely cratered, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of these tentwork networks are basically alive to

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Speaker 1: show live professional football games. That is what they are.

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Speaker 1: So on the one hand, it seems like we're spending

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Speaker 1: a lot of time thinking about this. We're paying people

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Speaker 1: like Tom Brady and down the line track when these

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Speaker 1: guys a lot of money, But if you think of

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is essentially being the Jerry Seinfeld of today,

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Speaker 1: Remember those people were making a million dollars in episode

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Speaker 1: back in the day. We're going, whoa a million dollars

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Speaker 1: in episode? Well, that's what Traitan's gonna be paid to

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Speaker 1: do money and a football this year. So to me,

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Speaker 1: it's not that crazy. And I know the announcers don't

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Speaker 1: draw people to games like Jerry Seinfeld drew people to

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Speaker 1: watch Seinfeld. But if you think of those people as

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Speaker 1: the stars of the biggest thing network television is showing,

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Speaker 1: then okay, yeah, I mean like we're we're we're making

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Speaker 1: no more of a big deal about them than we

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Speaker 1: were about big like TV stars back in the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's weird. I'm trying. I keep trying to think of

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Speaker 1: when this happened football, Like I remember maddening somewhere. All

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Speaker 1: were huge deals. I didn't know what their contracts were

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Speaker 1: when I was a young like nobody really cared um

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Speaker 1: and they weren't right off the field into the booth.

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Speaker 1: But it's happening increasingly now where it's like, okay, who's

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Speaker 1: retiring or are they going to come and announce? You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering George did for basketball we're now doing for announcers.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is long lasting? We're turning the

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Speaker 1: transaction into a commodity. Oh look who's signing here? Look

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Speaker 1: good on here next year. Look at what the contract is.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's if you look back by the way

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Speaker 1: of the nineties, your Times is reporting on what John

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Speaker 1: Mann was making Fox that was that was a story,

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Speaker 1: for sure, But now it's a daily story, or it's

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Speaker 1: an hourly story, or it's something that's contained in a

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Speaker 1: tweet where we can sort of amp up the intrigue

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Speaker 1: in dramas. I think that's kind of looks happen interesting

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Speaker 1: your Steinfeld analogy. Essentially what Seinfeld was a monster in

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Speaker 1: the nineties, right around on the Internet, pops. So could

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Speaker 1: we argue the Internet more than anything, started to slowly

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Speaker 1: hurt TV, whereas it helped the NFL a product that

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Speaker 1: it only continues to get bigger over the last twenty

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Speaker 1: five years. Yeah, I guess if we think of Internet

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Speaker 1: in a larger way and also think about streaming and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, I mean, it's like what

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Speaker 1: the world we live in? However we got here. Pro

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Speaker 1: Sports Live is the one thing people watch live on television.

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Speaker 1: We've seen that every single year. That's what they want

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Speaker 1: to watch live on television. So they're watching the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But baseball regional and be a having a nice little resurgent.

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Speaker 1: We'll get doing a little bit. But it's it's weird

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Speaker 1: college football. We've seen attendance plummeting, ratings plummeting. Only the

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Speaker 1: NFL on the rise. What am I missing here? Why?

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Speaker 1: Why is no other sport? Really? I mean, F one

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Speaker 1: is on the uptick, but come on, it's dropping the bucket.

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Speaker 1: Why the NFL? It's a good question. I mean people

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Speaker 1: want is we just love pro football as Americans more

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Speaker 1: than we love anything else. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: kind of an underrated big deal that NFL football is

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Speaker 1: largely free. Do people to watch? Okay? You know, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking my mom, who's sitting there in fort Ward,

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Speaker 1: Texas with literally an antenta on top of the house.

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Speaker 1: She's not paying for cable, which she can get fourteen

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Speaker 1: thirteen Dallas Cowboy games a year for free. She can

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Speaker 1: get all of Sunday Night football every year for free.

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Speaker 1: She'd get the CBS Game of the Week for free.

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Speaker 1: There's just tons of NFL football that's very available without

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Speaker 1: negotiating a cable bundle or over the top or whatever

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Speaker 1: we want. And honestly think when I hear on all

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Speaker 1: these like this angst about the Mavericks to decide another

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Speaker 1: Dallas example, Oh my god, I I don't have I'm

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Speaker 1: not paying for directing these, So I cannot watch the

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Speaker 1: Mavericks because they're not here. They're not there, They're not

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Speaker 1: where I want to watch them. Un doesn't have that angst. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe this year with Amazon we get some people that

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Speaker 1: are not nothing to keep calling it my mom here,

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Speaker 1: They're like, how am I watching the Thursday night game?

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Speaker 1: Where is this happening again? But I honestly think that

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Speaker 1: is an underrated part of the NFL's appeal. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: hadn't thought about that, the free aspect, but you mentioned Amazon. Um,

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Speaker 1: they have to now overpay to bring announcers in, right,

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Speaker 1: because who wants to go to streaming? Although everybody in

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Speaker 1: streaming has a ton of money. I'm just curious. Have

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Speaker 1: you watched a streaming game since they became available, uh,

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Speaker 1: NFL wise on Amazon? Yeah? I think I checked it

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Speaker 1: out when they were doing the alternate thurs in their

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Speaker 1: broadcast just to see what it was, but not not

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Speaker 1: in any great quantity. Now, yeah, because from a gambling perspective,

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Speaker 1: their delayed by like thirty to forty five seconds. I

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Speaker 1: think it's something like that, whereas regular cable and and

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Speaker 1: there is this little bit of a lag. And again,

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Speaker 1: when you're watching a big game, you're on social media,

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Speaker 1: so Celtics Bucks, you know, you're tweeting about it, and

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Speaker 1: you have to wait like thirty seconds for everyone else

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Speaker 1: to chime in. Because so many of the young millennials

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Speaker 1: now they're streaming everything, I am curious, do you still

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Speaker 1: have cable? Brian? Exactly? And I talked to these guys

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Speaker 1: thirty and under. Now, I'm sure you work with a

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Speaker 1: lot at the Ringer. Do they have cable or are

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Speaker 1: they all streaming? I'm gonna guess they almost none of

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Speaker 1: them that I don't. That's just so weird we have. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just had to call our bill was I'm embarrassed

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Speaker 1: to say it out over a little over three bucks

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Speaker 1: because we have three boxes and you know, Brian, I

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Speaker 1: want the DVR box. You know, if I got to

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Speaker 1: take my kid to a soccer game, and I know

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Speaker 1: there's an NBA game coming on. I'm recording the game

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Speaker 1: and I want to be able to rewind it when

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Speaker 1: I go. You know, uh so do you do? You

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Speaker 1: have multiple cable boxes, And it's just the simplicit And

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Speaker 1: again it's just the point of like, if I can't

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Speaker 1: watch everything I want to watch, I kind of can't

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Speaker 1: do my job the way I want to do my job. Yeah, alright,

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Speaker 1: be in that position where it's like I can't watch

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Speaker 1: this or this is this is tricky for me to

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Speaker 1: watch in someone noesn't no, No No, I'm gonna have cable.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long I'm gonna have it, but

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Speaker 1: for the time being, a new Fox Sports Radio has

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Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all

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Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and

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Speaker 1: to listen live. So let's go quickly to the NBA,

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Speaker 1: which is enjoying a bit of a resurgence in numbers

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Speaker 1: for the playoff games. And that's without Lebron uh to

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00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: an extent. Dame Lillard is not there, Kauai is out,

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00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: so some of the big names stars are out of

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00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but the numbers are good. I am curious,

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Speaker 1: you know, is it a post COVID pop. You know,

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Speaker 1: they had two seasons that were kind of messed up,

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Speaker 1: the bubble where they didn't end on time, and then

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00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: last year where they finished in like July. What do

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Speaker 1: you attribute this NBA rating surge too? With the caveat

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00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: that ratings are complicated, they're not always obvious to understand.

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00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: Post COVID pop's got to be part of it. Um. Anecdotally,

648
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: the place has been really exciting this year and seeming

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00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: like really interesting. I know we've had a couple of

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Speaker 1: blowouts in the last last couple of days, but also

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Speaker 1: it feels like the stars are pretty evenly apportioned right now.

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00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: So until John Morant got hurt, we had a series

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Speaker 1: with John Morant and Steph Curry. We have a series

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Speaker 1: with Luca and Chris Paul and Devin Booker. You know,

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Speaker 1: say the same thing about the Eastern Conference, right Janice

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Speaker 1: Joel and be Celtics. It just feels like there's not

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Speaker 1: a real dud or or let's not even a dud

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Speaker 1: let's say a less attractive team that just doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a ton of stars in the playoffs right now. So

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a nice apportionment of stars. There's not a

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Speaker 1: series where you're like, I don't care about that. Do

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Speaker 1: you think any of it has to do with Lebron fatigue,

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00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant fatigue, or maybe the masses kind of sort

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Speaker 1: of rooting against those guys who have dominated for about

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00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: a decade now and it's like we can't wait to

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Speaker 1: see who's next. Maybe you know, it's funny because I

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00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: always feel when we we make those arguments, and I

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00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: certainly feel that as a fan, like Okay, let's just

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00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: let's just move on, like Tom Brady was the ultimate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I feel like that is often not born out

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Speaker 1: by ratings. People love to watch and either love him

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00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: or hate him or do both at the same time.

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Speaker 1: But this does feel like that. Again, I don't know

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Speaker 1: about the transition to ratings, but it does feel like, Okay,

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00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: Lebron is not in the playoffs, but there's plenty to

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Speaker 1: watch here. It doesn't feel like there's a whole it

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00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like, it doesn't feel weird, startless, and again,

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00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: not to date myself, but I just remember when Jordan's left, uh,

679
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, you know, the next five years were like

680
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: a total wasteland for the NBA, the numbers fell off

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00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: a cliff, Like I'm struggle. I have to actually look up,

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Speaker 1: Like wait, after the Lakers three p Brian who was

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Speaker 1: in the finals, and then it was like, oh yeah

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00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: those Spurs Nets series that was unglamorous, like man, and

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Speaker 1: you wonder like, Okay, well, Lebron's got maybe a couple

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Speaker 1: more years, maybe Duran has a couple more Curry thirty three,

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Speaker 1: thirty four, Like it is the NBA in great shape

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00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: going forward? Um with all these young stars or are

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00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: these international guys who are kind of taken over Luca

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00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: don Chich, Janice Yokich, Like the league's never been better

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Speaker 1: with international players, But are they going to be as

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Speaker 1: appealing to the American audience as you know, the Kadies,

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00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: the Curries the Lebron's huge question that I don't have

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Speaker 1: the answer to. But it certainly feels like the NBA

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00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: set up as well as it can be. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you lose Lebron James, right, nobody's gonna be like, oh,

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00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: let's get Lebron out of here. And if you care

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00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: about putting butts in the season getting people to watch games,

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00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: but it feels like you're about as well set up

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00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: as you could possibly be for post lebron world now

701
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: you are on social media. So the pushback to that

702
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: would be, hey, James Harden has taken shots at Janice

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Speaker 1: because you know, he doesn't really have any skills other

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Speaker 1: than being a freakishly six eleven long guy. Um. You know,

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00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: Luka don Chech has a lot of hate from Devin Booker,

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: Chris Paul All people say he's a whiner, and then

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: Yokich where it's like, oh, the only reason these m

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00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: VP is because of all these nerds who look at

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Speaker 1: the numbers and say he's the m v P. So

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know if there's the love for

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Speaker 1: the international guys yet the way they're starting to dominate

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Speaker 1: this lead because listen, I know John Morand's good and

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00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 1: and some there's some young, good young players, but these

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00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: international guys really seem to be at least three of

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00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: the top seven players seem to be internationals. Sure, and

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Speaker 1: some of the players you're talking about her in Denver, yes,

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00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: and Dallas and not in l A, New York. And

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00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: we know that that has, you know, some effect on

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Speaker 1: the way people think about them and talk about them.

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Speaker 1: The amount that people talk about them solves, don't know,

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00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: don't know how about this the NBA media has I

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00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: don't want to say they're in a bad spot, but

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Speaker 1: you know, they're not getting let in locker rooms. Looks

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Speaker 1: like they're doing a lot of chasing with aggregation. It's

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00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: not fun. Um Breaking the big stories can be difficult.

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00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: I am curious, Like we've seen social media impact things. Right,

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00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: players want to talk, they go, they vent on Instagram.

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00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: John Rant right after the game, I'm gonna tweet out

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00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: about you know the code, and Draymond Green is running

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Speaker 1: and doing a podcast right afterwards. Brian's been this forward

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Speaker 1: ten let's go ten years. What does the media doing

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00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: it in ten years from now? I know? And and

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Speaker 1: it's funny because the part of that, to me that's

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00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: most important is reopening the locker room and keeping it

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00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: open because this stuff's gonna happen. You know, Draymond is

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00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: going to do his podcast, and there's and he should

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00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: be able to do his podcast. There's no like, why

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Speaker 1: would I be able to say, don't do that? Right,

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00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: people should have their own social media channels and all that.

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Speaker 1: But the one chance we have as reporters to do

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00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: anything to get any information to establish relationships with these

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00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: people is to keep the locker room up. It doesn't

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00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: mean we're gonna do it doesn't mean we're gonna go

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00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: back to or you walk up to Magic in his

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00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: locker with you don't go that's never coming back in

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00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: the same way. But at least gives people a shot.

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00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: And I was talking to people about you know, some

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Speaker 1: NBA airports about this the other day, and they said,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to guarantee me anything. You know, you're

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00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: not guaranteeing me thirty minutes where Lebron tells me of

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00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: all about the dreams he had last night and how

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00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: they were lake the next season with the Lakers. Just

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00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: give me a shot, Yeah, just give me a shock

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00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: to walk up to his locker or let me he

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00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: maybe be on you know, at this point is such

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00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: a big start. But like John Morant, young players right

757
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: who are in the NBA, like get to know them

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00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: as rookies, follow their careers so that we have a

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00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: relationship and potentially I can get something that I can

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00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: give to readers that is not going to be filtered

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00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: through a podcast or Instagram stories or whatever it is.

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00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: And that's all that's to me. That's all reporters want.

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00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: They just want a chance to level this a little bit.

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00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: It's never gonna be the same, It's never gonna be

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00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: Dallas Morning News, Boston Globe, Washington Post Ale. But it's

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00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: it's a chance, do you. This is a tough one

767
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: because I know these athletes make a lot of money.

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00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: Jamond Green's contracted million dollars or whatever, and he's probably

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Speaker 1: looking at is why am I giving them a sound

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00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: bite when I can go and say it on my

771
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: podcast and make more money of course? And why why

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00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: don't I go on social media? If I'm John Moran,

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00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: why would I give it to the media when I

774
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: can do it up my followers and then know, by

775
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: the way, in the off season, I'll sell ads on

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00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: my Instagram and make you pop. And I'm gonna say

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00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: it exactly the way I want to say it, Yeah,

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00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: the way Brian and Jason interpreted or or snipped the

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00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: quote halfway through because they're running out of space, so

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00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: they want to say what they want to say. So

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00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: how does the NBA fix that? I don't think it's

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00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fixed. I don't think that thing

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00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: is fixable. I don't think it's fixable. But that's, like

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00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: I said, the way to mitigate against it is, okay,

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00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: you have to be in the locker room after a game.

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00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: You have to have an open locker room during these times.

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00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: Guys may not be enthusiastic about it whatever, But if

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Speaker 1: they're there, and if they have if they know the

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00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: reporters as human beings rather than faces in the zoom

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Speaker 1: call or some guys standing up at a press conference

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00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: in the you know, playoffs, which are always so bad

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00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: and ridiculous, they have a chance to get something. And

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00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: you know what, those guys often have things they want

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00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,720
Speaker 1: to say. And by the way, we're talking about the stars,

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00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: what about the twelve guy on the roster who has

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Speaker 1: something he wants to stay about the star on background,

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00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: or has an observation that he can give the writer

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Speaker 1: about team dynamics that the writer can't get from the

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Speaker 1: from Steph Curry. That's interesting, right, yeah, get that guy

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Speaker 1: unless you're in the long hurting. That's tough, all right.

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00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm I got a bunch of friends who are NFL

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Speaker 1: reporters at NBA, and some guys have vented about this recently.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just curious. Bryant you know the NFL, well,

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00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: you know NFL reporters. Are they reporting actual news or

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00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: are they being told, Hey, here you go, you can

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00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: now report this because we're in a weird space and

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00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: I know that sounds bad. There are a handful of

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Speaker 1: holdout to remain like, listen, I'm gonna do whatever. I'm

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00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: gonna write whatever I get. But you know, the risk

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00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: of getting cut off by agents teams is real. Um,

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Speaker 1: where are we on NFL reporting these days? Yeah? First

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Speaker 1: of all, I'd say that exists in every business. Yeah,

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00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: we get and it's a media business. So you can

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Speaker 1: report this in thirty minutes. You know, let me see

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Speaker 1: all your favorite media reporters tweet the news at the

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Speaker 1: same time. I guess that you know it exists play

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00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: less now than it did. Um, there's probably a mix

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00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: of those things. But the good ones will figure out

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Speaker 1: a way to do it. And it may not be Look,

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00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, look, maybe what we're talking about. The quarterback

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Speaker 1: is not gonna sit there and give me quotes like

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Speaker 1: John Elway did in I may not have that kind

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Speaker 1: That just may be gone because the world has changed

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00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: so much. But I can give you interesting, real edgy

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00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: reporting about this team. That is not the filtered version

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Speaker 1: that the team would like out there in the world.

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00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: That's gonna appear on the team's website. Like, I think

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Speaker 1: good reporters will figure out how to do that and

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Speaker 1: will not make themselves captive too. You can report now,

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00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: you can report this kind of stuff. So for instance,

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Speaker 1: the DeAndre Hopkins suspension with the Cardinals, again not huge news,

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00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: but this has been out there for a while now.

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Speaker 1: We heard it out it um through a guy at

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Speaker 1: Fox a little before they announced it, you know, a

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Speaker 1: day before. But I am curious, like, you know, all

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Speaker 1: the students like breaking news that he's suspended, like they

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Speaker 1: were given the okay to then report it and announce

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00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: it by the team or the league, even though this

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Speaker 1: has been known about for a while. Do you you've

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Speaker 1: been a reporter? I mean I know if I was

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00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: sitting on that, I would have loved to report it.

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Speaker 1: But you run the risk of getting cut off by

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Speaker 1: the team. Hey, you screwed us there. You know how

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Speaker 1: to report, hiss handle that fine line in this social

845
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: media age. Well, that's an interesting one. I don't I'm

846
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: gonna take your version of best. I don't exactly remember

847
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: how that when that people knew about that before the

848
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: like the official release of the information. But to me,

849
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: the way you sort of control for that is, let's

850
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: say there's one insider just just throwing this out here

851
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: who was particularly beholden in this hypothetical example to DeAndre

852
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Hopkins's agent, Well, isn't there going to be another insider

853
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: who doesn't care and would and it's not the one

854
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: getting the scoops from Deandre's agent who would happily put

855
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: that out there if they can find out about it.

856
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: So competition in journalism, to me, is the answer there

857
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: if you just have one person doing all the news. Yes, potentially,

858
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: again I'm just making this up, but potentially they could

859
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I don't want to can't cross that line.

860
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna wait to report that. But also,

861
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: if the DeAndre Hopkins thing is out is going to happen,

862
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: why does the agent want to hold it today? Like,

863
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: what does that matter? I get on Tuesday, it's gonna

864
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: be better for DeAndre than if we announced on Monday.

865
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't it seems like yeah, I think they want

866
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: to control the narrative, have all their ducks in a

867
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: row with what everybody's gonna say hope, hoping for to

868
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: bury it with other news that it gets, you know,

869
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: swept under the rug. I don't know. I've been written

870
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: that he's very very sorry and whatever it is appeals process,

871
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: but what about for actual like transactional news. I'm just

872
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: do you care as much about transactional news as you

873
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: used to because it used to feel like huge. It

874
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: just doesn't anymore. I didn't. Yeah, though I didn't even

875
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: care about it that much before because a lot of

876
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: it is beating the press release. This is gonna happen,

877
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: but it's not. It's not like we're unearthing something that

878
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: we were never going to know about. Now there is

879
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: transaction things like they tried to make this train that

880
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: didn't work. You know this this guy or Kauai was

881
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: this close to signing with the Lakers and they decided

882
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: to go to the Clippers. That's interesting to me because

883
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: that's not known right that that isn't something that would

884
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: be in the press release. But if we're just the

885
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: stuff that's just beating the official word by a day.

886
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: Ten minutes, two minutes, okay, okay, we can wrap up

887
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: with the guy politics. It's like, well, here, who's gonna

888
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: who he's gonna pick for vice president, and it's like, okay,

889
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: we were gonna know that. Now, good for you, and

890
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure your news organization is happy to have that early.

891
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: But okay, you know, anyway, it's probably a little ego

892
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: stroking too, right, I got that news first. Um, so

893
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: we can wrap up with this. Sportico put out a

894
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: list of a hundred highest paid athletes. Uh, Lebron was

895
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: number one. It's endorsements in salary. And we've been hearing

896
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: for a little while that hey, you don't have to

897
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: live in the coasts or a big city. You could.

898
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: You could make it anywhere. Look at y honest he

899
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: stayed in Milwaukee and won a championship. And social media

900
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: was supposed to change that game and help the small markets.

901
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: Here we are, I don't know what ten years into

902
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: the social media game, maybe maybe fifteen. Do you agree

903
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: with that still, Brian, that you can be a big time,

904
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: wealthy star anywhere. You don't need to move to l

905
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: a like Lebron or Chicago or New York or whatever.

906
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: I agree with it in theory, because again, you and

907
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: I are old enough to remember an era where if

908
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: you were rooting for a player who didn't live in

909
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: your city, it was really hard to consume their quote

910
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: unquote content. I remember being like, for whatever reason in

911
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: the eighties, I was a huge Mike Schmidt fanber Mike

912
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: Phi so I got all those baseball cards about a

913
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: poster from a wall that they'll have. I read his

914
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: like juvenile biography, you know, Michael Jack Spitt was born

915
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: in Ohio, Da, Da, Dada. And then I remember just

916
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: being I was like nine or whatever, and I remember

917
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: just hitting the wall and being like, now what do

918
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: I do? I couldn't watch his games. I'm like waiting

919
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: for him to come on the NBC Game of the

920
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: Week and yeah, yeah, like there was just nothing to do. Now,

921
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be a problem, right, If I live in

922
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: Dallas and I was a honest man, I ain't get

923
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: all the honest I wanted an Instagram and I can

924
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: get this like a jersey. Everything's easy to order and consume.

925
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: So in theory it shouldn't be an issue. But we

926
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: all know that people who play in New York, especially

927
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: New York we say New York in l A, but

928
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: specially New York, are just in the media engine in

929
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: a lot in a lot more fundamental way than they

930
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 1: are elsewhere. So you know, maybe that hasn't efect cause

931
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: they just yeah, I mean multiple radio stations, TV, you got.

932
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: You could if you're in New York, like Zach Wilson,

933
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Jets, could be at an event. You know,

934
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: they opened an envelope every night in New York. He

935
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: could be at five events and raise his profile. Right now,

936
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: that probably isn't a good thing for him, beaven, he

937
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything. But Sam Donald's another one, Like how

938
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: you have thought about Sam Donald if he didn't play

939
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: for the Jets sadly, not at all. I mean I

940
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: thought about him a lot and he was terrible. But

941
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: you're right, like if he goes to Jacksonville, do we care? Like,

942
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, has it hurt Trevor Lawrence that he

943
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: is in Jacksonville? I mean they were a disaster or

944
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, but we forget Trevor Lawrence. Two years ago,

945
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: Brian was like the one of the biggest deals in

946
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: college football since Tebow? Was he not? Yeah? Oh yeah,

947
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: absolutely he was. Yeah. I know, he's He's a good example.

948
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: I even look at somebody like Mike Trout as on

949
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: this Orderville and baseball has its own conversation about you know,

950
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: visibility and a guy of Trout's magnitude, like, you know,

951
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: why is why is he not? Does not? Why is

952
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: he not bigger in American sports? But like him being

953
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: an Anaheim, I think is the thing versus him playing

954
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: in Dodger Stadium every day. That's a great point. Now

955
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Otani has overcome that, and I guess you know, he's

956
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: like a cultural phenomenon, but you're right, he's kind of

957
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: overshadowed Trout, who I've been hearing is the best big

958
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 1: best baseball player in the league for what five years? Yeah?

959
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: More than that? Is that even accurate? Is he the

960
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: best player on his team anymore? Now? When we've been

961
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: hearing he's like Mickey Mantle for a really long time,

962
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: and he is, as far as I know, like he's

963
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: Mickey Mail. But it's sort of it's sort of like

964
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: he just it feels again, there's a lot of this

965
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: is feel and a lot of this is not. I

966
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: can't to metric with this, but just feels like because

967
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: he's not right in the white hot center of a

968
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: giant city sports conversation, he just feels a little more remote.

969
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: And I'll just close in saying, the biggest Mike Trout

970
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: highlight I've ever seen was him at top Golf. I

971
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen it, where he just steps

972
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: up with like a driver and just smashes the ball

973
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: so far everybody around him freaks out. Like that's the

974
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: one Mike Trout play that I can recall. When you

975
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: mentioned his day, do you know the play I'm talking about?

976
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: I I do you and I probably need to watch

977
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: more baseball. Yes, I think that's accurate. Like you guys, Yeah,

978
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: you guys are terrible, all right, Brian Curtis the Ringer.

979
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: He's got a great media following. He covers the media,

980
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: sports media as well as anybody. Brian, thanks for taking

981
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: the time. Man. Thank you, Jason Man, great talk to you.