1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg sound on 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: the shift in strategy is a horrible one, is an 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: immoral one, receives his only tool available is to brutalize 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: individual citizens. Very simply, Ukraine drone Floomberg Sound on Politics, 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: Policy and perspective from DC's top name. She supports no 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: limits of any kind that is out of the mainstream. 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: That is radical. No, Senator, I don't think it's okay 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: for a ten year old girl to be raped and 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: have to carry the seed of her rapist. Bloomberg Sound 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Vladimir Putin expands 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: martial law in Ukraine and targets more civilians in another 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: barrage of drone strikes. Welcome to the fastest hour in politics. 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: As Washington condemns Russia's behavior, We're joined tonight by someone 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: try to make a difference, actor, Mark Hamill. Yes, that 15 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: Mark Hamill, who has agreed to help Ukraine as its 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: new ambassador of drones, helping to raise money for the 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: resistance of Fascinating conversation ahead you will not want to miss. 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: Later midterm politics will check in with Bloomberg. Government's Emily 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Wilkins on the ground in Nevada tracking tight races for 20 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: Senate and Governor. Will also bring you inside last night's 21 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: Senate debate in Florida, which is still echoing here inside 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: the Beltway. Our signature panel helps us make sense of 23 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: it all. Bloomberg Politics contributors Jeanie Chanzano and Rick Davis 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: with us for the hour and on this thirty fifth 25 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: anniversary of Black Monday, the onslaught continues in Ukraine. The 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: sound of drone strikes from Russia, Irani and Bronze aimed 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: at civilian infrastructure, power and water facilities, targeted killing seventeen 28 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: civilians since we last spoke yesterday, wounding twenty nine more 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: of a Tollyklitchko is the mayor of Keivs. They destroyed 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: our country, they destroyed hometown, They killed the Anouns. Right now, 31 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: as Vladimir Putin extends martial law to the so called 32 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: annexed areas of Ukraine, clamping down on movements, President Biden 33 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: was asked about it today at the White House. Vladimir 34 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: prudent finds himself in an incredibly difficult position, and what 35 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: it reflects to me is it seems his only tool 36 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: available to him is to brutalize individual citizens in Ukraine, 37 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: Ukrainian citizens, to try to intimidate them into capitulating. They're 38 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 1: not going to do that, thank you, not going to 39 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: do that, he said, And of course that is what 40 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: we are hearing from President Zelenski and Ukrainians who are 41 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: now more than eight months into this war. As we 42 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: discussed yes today, there is a debate that is emerging 43 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: about how much financial support, how much weaponry the US 44 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: and allies, but specifically the US should continue to provide Ukraine. 45 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: And as we heard, there are concerns by some Republicans 46 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: who expect to take control of the House in November, 47 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: that the days of blank checks are about to end, 48 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: considering the inflationary environment, talk of a recession. Other priorities 49 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: here domestically, and it's part of the reason why we're 50 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: seeing private fundraising kick in. Now United is a program 51 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: that was launched by President Zelenski, launched by the government 52 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: of Ukraine to help raise money in any number of areas. 53 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: One of them is acquiring drones, and they've turned to 54 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: none other than Luke Skywalker for help. Mark Hamill, the 55 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: actor from Star Wars fame is now officially signed on 56 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: as Ukraine's Ambassador of Drones, and I had a chance 57 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: to talk about him, to go deeper inside how all 58 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: of this began with Mark Hamill Listen, well, I appreciate 59 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: you giving me the coverage because it's it's such a 60 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: crucial thing. I mean, just to start at the beginning, 61 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: my wife said, you've been contacted by President Zelenski, and 62 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: I thought, am I being pranked by one of my 63 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: merry band of friends. But once we realized it was true, 64 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: I first I spoke to the people in his administration, 65 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: and then they did a zoom with the president himself 66 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: and he asked me to join United four, which is 67 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: their fundraising platform. And there were different people being involved. 68 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: Was Live Schreiber and imagine Dragons at Barbara streisand but 69 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: we all had different areas. In my particular area was 70 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: Army of Drones. I think they picked me because it 71 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: sounds like another episode of are I figured that was 72 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: no accident to have Luke Skywalker by the Ambassador of drones. Well, 73 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: the thing is very simply, Ukraine needs drones and you 74 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: know they define war outcomes. They they protect their land, 75 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: their people. There they monitor the border, their their eyes 76 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: in the sky. To donate, you go to you two 77 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: four dot g O V dot U a forward slash 78 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: drone nation d R O N A t I O 79 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: N you two for dot gov dot you a forward 80 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: slash dronation and not just we're not just looking for 81 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: voluntary contributions, but if you have an actual drone that 82 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: I was really shocked because I mean, they give me 83 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: these updates at least two or three times a week 84 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: about what's going on, and they said that they've received 85 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: over five drums. So I started this, I know, because 86 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: you've seen what's gone on in the last week. Russia 87 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: launched on Monday, they launched an attack on Ukrainian capital 88 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: using Iranian made shah Head drones. Thirty seven of the 89 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: forty three drones were down and and six they say arrived. 90 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: I bet you she means survived. I mean, I listen 91 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: kama Kaze drones, you know, I mean, if it's if 92 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: it's like it wasn't World War two, that means hit 93 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: their target and explode. The drone itself is the weapon exactly. 94 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: And it's just so disheartening to see them attacking civilian outlets, 95 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: civilian targets, infrastructure, hitting children's playgrounds, schools. It's just awful. 96 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: And I think after the Ukrainians bombed the Crimean Bridge 97 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: it really irritated Putin and he's been particularly brutal since 98 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: that happened. And you know, I think of this, it's 99 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: not just the Ukraine's problem. I think the whole world 100 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: UH should be aiding Ukraine because the entire civilized world 101 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: is united against this hostile invasion by into a sovereign 102 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: nation the likes of which I've never seen in my lifetime. 103 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: I guess you have to go back to World War 104 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: Two to figure out the last time something like this happened. 105 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: So um, I was struck by your tweet of October one, 106 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: and this is the first time I heard anything about 107 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: your involvement here. It had the image of a lone 108 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: X wing fighter colored blue and yellow, facing off with 109 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: a fleet of star destroyers, and it had simply the 110 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: words resist stand with Ukraine. Was this a personal thing 111 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: for you, Mark? Absolutely? I mean the thing is, you 112 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: sit and you watched the New Island news junkie, I 113 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: read papers every day, I watched the news, and you 114 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: feel so it seems so futile. I mean you can 115 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: go what I feel so helpless? What can I do? Well? 116 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: When I was contacted and asked to do this, I 117 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: didn't have to think for a second. I mean, I'll 118 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: do whatever they want me to do. And uh, you know, 119 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, and I hope you know over a hundred 120 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: and fifteen countries have donated, which is why I think, Uh, 121 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: it's it's such a David and Goliath situation. You talked 122 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,559 Speaker 1: about that poster with this little tiny X wing going 123 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: up against this gigantic armada of star destroyers. It is 124 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: Verry David and Goliath. So I mean, I like everyone assumed, 125 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: I guess they invaded on the twenty four February, that 126 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: they would be offered no resistance, that they just fold. 127 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know much about Ukraine at all. I I 128 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: knew I knew about President Zelenski after the first impeachment 129 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: is what robbed him on the radar screen. So I 130 00:08:54,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: started like researching him and the country of Ukraine must 131 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: be impressed. He as an actor. Yes, I didn't go 132 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: to law school like he did, but do you know 133 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: life imitates art and for him to portray this fictional 134 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: character who winds up becoming then happen in real life. 135 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: It's you know, that's that's that's that's a movie in 136 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: and of itself. I have to ask you, Mark about 137 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: the debate that's just emerging here in Washington, and it's 138 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: not one that you're going to be glad to hear about. 139 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: Maybe already have. But Kevin McCarthy, who wants to be 140 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: the next speaker, says, if Republicans take over the House, 141 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: basically we're going to have a second look at funding 142 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: for Ukraine. He was telling a punch bowl that you know, 143 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: this is not going to be a blank check. So 144 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: I guess my question for you is, and we don't 145 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: have to get political in this interview, is this going 146 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: to be a private sector fundraising operation much like you're 147 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: doing as we move forward? Well, I expect to continue 148 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: until they say you're you're you're done. I mean, I'm 149 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: not going to give up. But is this going to 150 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: replace government funding from the US? I guess is my question? Look, Uh, 151 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: it's impossible not to get political. The coalition that we 152 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: have now are our Democrats, Independents, and reasonable Republicans that 153 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: live in the fact based community, you know, because there's 154 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: no evidence whatsoever. And I think of all the damaging 155 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: things the former president did, one that will have reverberate 156 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: into the future and affect us for years to come. 157 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: Is this election denying things? I have Republican friends, I 158 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: have independent friends, and we disagree on policy, but it 159 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: didn't make us enemies. We're still friends. Now it's gotten 160 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: so toxic? Is your next? No? No? I look, I 161 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: always vote. I've never not voted up for some reason, 162 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: even as a kid. I'm old enough to remember in 163 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: grade school when Nixon was running against Kennedy and I 164 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: didn't know any of the issues. I just knew one 165 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: sort of beamed sunshine, had a great smile and made 166 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: people laugh. He was funny. The other one loses, glowering, 167 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: sort of scary by that reminded me of my one 168 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: of the teachers I was afraid of at school. If 169 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: we could get the eighteen to twenty five year old 170 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what percentage of them voted, I think 171 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: it's around but whatever the number is, if you get 172 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: at that up, five young people could rule the world. 173 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they've awoken a sleeping giant. Between 174 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: the Dobb's decision getting rid of Rogue, the Wade and 175 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: I've never seen an election where a threat to democracy 176 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: is one of the top issues. Would you come to 177 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: Washington to testify if if they asked you to on 178 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: behalf of Ukrainian funding. Look, I'm going to do what 179 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: they want me to do. I don't see the value. 180 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: And I said to them, I said, you know, most 181 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: people know because of my social media and so forth, 182 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: that what my politics are. I mean, I was never 183 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: an activist or a pundit in any way. And I 184 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: mean I've been asked to be on um MSNBC and 185 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: CNN before, but that was before this, and I always 186 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: declined because I thought, you know, that's not my area 187 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: and I should shut up. And I would say to 188 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: people that, you know, people don't want me to campaign 189 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: in their states and so forth. I said, look, it 190 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: could backfire. I mean, the opposition will point me as 191 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: an elitist Hollywood celebrity and and so I you know, 192 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I have to be very careful about that. But you know, 193 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: like I say, I'm here to do whatever the Ukrainian 194 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: government wants me to do. Well, you know, Vladimir Putin 195 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: certainly knows who you are, which must be odd to 196 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: think about. What's your message? To him. You know, that's 197 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: funny that you should mention that, because it never occurred 198 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: to me that he would. I mean, I guess now 199 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: you're right. Uh. I just hope he finds a way 200 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: to save face and you know, declare his version of 201 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: victory so that he can stop. But you know that's 202 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's just the optimist though. I mean, there's 203 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: got you've got to find hope where you can find it, 204 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: and I would hope that there's a way to maneuver 205 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: him into a situation where he can say, Okay, I've 206 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: accomplished what I wanted to accomplish. But I don't know. 207 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking to one of the wealthiest audiences 208 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: that you'll find in American broadcasting. Here, we're un Mark, 209 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: That's what they tell me at least, So so tell 210 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: them what they can do now to make a difference. Well, 211 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: like I say, I mean any amount of money. I mean, kids, 212 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: give up that pint of Ben and Jerry's and send 213 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: that ice cream money, or your wealthy viewers and listeners 214 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: can send as much as they can afford to the 215 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: website that I mentioned that United absolutely and and and 216 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: as Mark said, you can donate money or you can, 217 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: as they say, dronate a drone. I love that. I 218 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: thought that was pretty good. Well, I mean that's my 219 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I'd have to tell you. When my kids are always 220 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: complaining about my Twitter, they go, Dad, your your Twitter 221 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: account is just so full of dad jokes? What are 222 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: you talking about? Dad jokes? That I have three kids? 223 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: And the one said obvious, The second one said full 224 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: of ponds. The third one said not funny. It said, 225 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: why you If it makes me laugh, it should make 226 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: other people laugh, not just all the senior citizens. But 227 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: you know you need to do what you can. Well, 228 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: I just they couldn't have found a better ambassador, a 229 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: better emissary, And we're delighted you came here to help 230 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: deliver the message, and we're going to spread the word. 231 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: Mark Hamill, I really appreciate you. Thanks. I appreciate Bloomberg 232 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: giving me the the airtime because, like I say, it's 233 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: a it's crucial that we all continue to do whatever 234 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: we can to make this dreadful war come to an end. 235 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: President Zelanski issued a statement upon your meeting, and there 236 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: was a photograph of you guys talking there on the 237 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: screen and the first line is, may the force be 238 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: with you. Did he say that to you? Yes, Well, 239 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: the thing is, I've always shocked. I mean I was, 240 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I was on the air with Jim Acossa. I had 241 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: had no idea. It was a Star Wars nerd depression 242 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: on the air, and I find it delightful. But you see, 243 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: one of the things that I understand about that is 244 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: that Star Wars was conceived as a fairy tale for children. 245 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: George want to tell the story, he said, if he 246 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: put it in reality would be so corny, you know. 247 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: He brought back to the old westerns where the good 248 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: guy wore a white hat, you know, And he thought, 249 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: the only way to get away with this without people 250 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: laughing it off the screen is to put in the 251 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: galaxy far far away. Because it's it's it's it's it's 252 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: The good is clearly defined, evil is clearly divined. And 253 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: they're they're endlessly optimistic films. They're telling you that if 254 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: you do the right thing for the right reasons, selflessly, 255 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: not thinking about your own you know, not to help yourself, 256 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: but to help everyone around you, you will see exceed 257 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: And those are things that probably resonate with both Jim 258 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: Acosta and Zelenski. They you know they're my son's age. 259 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: They probably were six or seven years old when they 260 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: saw those movies. So yeah, not only did he say that, 261 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: but he referred to Russia as the evil Empire. Now 262 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: how can you argue with that? Well, I was five 263 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: and uh and I'm still watching him and Mark Hamill thinks. 264 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you if I wasn't an actor, I'd love 265 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: to have your job, because I told you I'm a 266 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: news junkie. To get paid to follow what's going on 267 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: in the world and interview people and write articles, it 268 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: must be the best job in the world. It's well, 269 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: I get to talk to people like you. It is 270 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: pretty great. And you know this microphone is yours. Anytime 271 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: you want to host this program. Thanks so much. I 272 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Mark Hamill for 273 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: being with us, and good luck with this effort my pleasures. 274 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Do you think he'd fill in? I think we haven't 275 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: fill in on the fastest hour in politics, Mark Hamill 276 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: for you there only on Bloomberg Radio, an unlikely conversation 277 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: with an unlikely ambassador at this time of war, and 278 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: realizing not everyone agrees with his politics, I'm still glad 279 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: we could bring you that interview. That's when you will 280 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: not hear on the radio tonight anywhere else. We assemble 281 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: our panel now having had our conversation with Mark Hamill 282 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: and updating you on not only the effort here to 283 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: help in Ukraine raise money for drones, among other things, 284 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: but the terrible news from the last twenty four hours 285 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: in Ukraine, this endless barrage of drones in the skies 286 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: over cities like Kiev, another seventeen civilians killed, and now 287 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: and expanded martial law is called by none other than 288 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin in the areas he claimed to have annexed. 289 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: Ginnie Schanzano is here. Rick Davis is to Bloomberg Politics 290 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: contributors make up our signature handle Rick, this is a 291 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: very difficult situation here, and it seems the more desperate 292 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin gets as his troops lose ground, the more 293 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: drones are going to be raining on Ukraine. Yeah, you know, 294 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: we every day it seems we talk about, you know, 295 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: how is Vladimir Putin? How do we keep him from escalating? 296 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: And the reality is there's nothing we can do to 297 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: keep him from escalating. This is his plan. Uh, it 298 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: hasn't probably always been his plan. I'm I think he's 299 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: probably in Plan C, D or E by now because 300 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: the others have failed. But the reality is he's not 301 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: going to stop killing people in the Ukraine until he 302 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: gets what he wants. And the fact that he's turning 303 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: Russian into terrorist state, he doesn't care. It's all about 304 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin. And so the fact that the EU is now, 305 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about secondary sanctions. Now they're going 306 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: after I ran for a given uh you know, drones 307 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: to uh to to Russia. I think that's a very 308 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: good strategy. And anybody in between shipping companies that are 309 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: moving them, and anybody who helps try and ship these 310 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: things should be caught up in sanction regimes too. We've 311 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: got to start shutting down Russia's access to outside equipment. Uh. 312 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: You know, Russia, we we talk all the time about, oh, 313 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: we don't want to give them weapons, you know that 314 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: would go into the Russian territory. What do you think 315 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: these drones are coming from Iran? So I think we've 316 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: got to start to change our minds on how we 317 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: feel about escalation. When you see the images Genie there, 318 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: it's a horror movie it's a horror show here. I mean, 319 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: at what point do we say, you know what, whatever 320 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: you want, whatever you want, we're gonna send it. Well, 321 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: you know it's going to be increasingly difficult if in 322 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: this election, and you mentioned this in your interview, Republicans takeover. 323 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: And you know, we had Mike Pence out today reacting 324 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: to Kevin McCarthy suggesting there's no more blank check for 325 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: Ukraine if Republicans take over. Mike Pence pushing back on that, 326 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: saying the Conservative movement can't be apologist or putin. But 327 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: that is increasingly what we're seeing in the Republican Party 328 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: and the polls reflect that as well. We've seen a 329 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: drop off in support. And this is why I think 330 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: your conversation with Mark Hamill was so important, because you know, 331 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: as horrific as the images are, and you've talked about that, 332 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: media coverage in the United States has dropped off a 333 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 1: bit and support in the polls is dropping off a 334 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: bit as well, and we may see that reflected and 335 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: coming down the pike in the funding. So it's really 336 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: important that you have conversations like this, and Joe Matthew, 337 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: I have to ask you a question when you are 338 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: a little kid and you watch Star Wars. Did you 339 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: ever imagine you'd be talking to Luke Skywalker and he'd 340 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: want your job. I'm just amazed by that. Technically I 341 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: thought I was Luke Skywalker. So I guess it all 342 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: comes together here and he should have this job. He 343 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: seems pretty engaged in things, but he can't lose you, 344 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: Joe Matthew co host. Fine, you two guys, let's be honest. 345 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: Or are much more steeped in the politics of Washington 346 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: than Mark Hamill ever would be while he's obviously engaged 347 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: in the news and what's happening here. Rick, do you 348 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: see this as a as a private fundraising movement that 349 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: might replace government funding? No, Uh, there's no way that 350 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: you could replace. There's just a billion dollars that you know, 351 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: the government has already committed in its last trunch in May. 352 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: So it's a good thing. Uh. And I applaud people 353 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: like Mark Hamill to get involved with Ukraine and and 354 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: and we should do everything we can to support that 355 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: corporations and private individuals and charities and foundations. But the 356 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: reality is that this is a geopolitical situation where the 357 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: free countries of the world need to ensure that that 358 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin's plan does not get achieved, and that is 359 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: to not only subjugate Ukraine, but to subjugate the democracies 360 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: all around the world who are at risk by Ukraine 361 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: losing this war. You know, Genie, I wouldn't leave you 362 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: like that, to be left with Luke Skywalker at the 363 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: same time, I mean, it would be a pretty good option. 364 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: I feel like, not he's not you, but you know 365 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: he he would be okay, yes, of course, And indeed, 366 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: stay with us the panels here all hour. We're gonna 367 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: turn to domestic politics here coming up. Be careful who 368 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: you talked to in this place, by the way, a 369 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: hive of villany and the fastest hour in politics. We're 370 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: gonna bring in Emily Wilkins next. Actually she's already there. 371 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: It's called Las Vegas, Nevada politics. This is bloom booked. 372 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: They both had the same job. They were both Attorney 373 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: General in Nevada. Now they both want to be senator. Well, 374 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: of course, she already is the senator from Nevada, Catherine 375 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: Cortes Masto up against the Donald Trump endorsed Adam Laxall. 376 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: Both held the job of a g one wants to 377 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: keep coming to Washington, Laxalt I would like the same 378 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: for the first time here, and it's been quite an 379 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: ad war with a race that is too close to call. 380 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: They stormed the capital because they were told the election 381 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 1: was Stormer who helped push that line. Let's bring in 382 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: one of the President's foot soldiers in the battle, Adam Lasol. 383 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: Senator Cortez Masto undermining the federal investigation into Biden family corruption. 384 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: Just a taste of what Bloomberg Government's Emily Wilkins is 385 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: enduring every time she walks past a TV in the 386 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: great city of Las Vegas. That's where she joins us 387 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: right now. I'm just just guessing what the signs must 388 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: be like, what the ads must be like. It's in 389 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: the air, Emily, what are you seeing? I was watching 390 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the local news today. The ads are thick. And it's 391 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: not just for the Senate race, obviously one of the 392 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: most competitive Senate races we have right now, but you 393 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: also got to remember, Joe, we have a competitive, competitive 394 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: governor's race here, and we have three competitive House races 395 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: now that has only got four seats. Three of them 396 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: are considered very competitive cycle with incumbent Democrats really have 397 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: to defend their record in a state that's been very 398 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: hard hit, was hard hit by the pandemic, is still 399 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: grappling with high gas prices, high rent prices. Economic concern 400 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: is a really big deal here and Democrats are trying 401 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to message to voters so 402 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: that they are able to hold onto their seats. But 403 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: it's not it's not an easy task. It's been a 404 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: pretty contentious debate here, as we just heard with a 405 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: sampling of ads. Have they had a debate? Are they 406 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: going to Emily? They haven't had debate. They're not going 407 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: to have a debate. We saw to all the lawmakers. 408 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 1: If this is happening kind of across the country right now, 409 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: I know we're seeing a lot of debates, but we are. 410 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: There are also so many where we're not seeing debates, 411 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: or in things like Florida where it's like, okay, we 412 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: saw one debate between the two senators, but that was 413 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: the only one, and you're seeing that trickle down to 414 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: house races as well. I think part of that is 415 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: that you know you're we're in kind of this new 416 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: eraw where candidates don't necessarily feel they need to talk 417 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: to the media or go up on the debate stage 418 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: to get their message chout that they can just much 419 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: more closely drive the narrative by not doing anything except 420 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: for their own media and own friendly press. But you know, 421 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: it is, it is a trend worse thing, not just 422 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: here in Nevada, but not really all over the country. 423 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: But I think it speaks to just how contentious things are, 424 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: uh in this particular race in between these two candidates, 425 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: where his lax Alt been on the election denying issue 426 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: as he backed off, that is, as this became a 427 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: general election contest. I mean, lax it's very interesting because 428 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: he's gotten support both from sort of the Trump wing 429 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: of the party as well from Mitch McConnell and sort 430 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: of the more mainstream Republicans, and so he's done what 431 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: he's can to really appeal to both groups on that 432 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: He's definitely tried to sort of downplay um any concerns 433 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: about the election. But for Cortes Masso, it's something that 434 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: she's really trying to push along with issues like abortion. 435 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the big one for for Democrats that 436 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: I've seen while I've been down here. So no, I 437 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: mean it is still something that that that could and 438 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: is a factor in the overall race. But I think 439 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: when you're talking to people about what sort of their 440 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: top of mind issue is a lot of folks don't 441 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: necessarily say that that it's the future of our democracy, 442 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: despite the fact that that's, you know, something that I know, 443 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: you and I and and many folks have studied the 444 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: government closely. Are really watching right now? Yeah, of course, 445 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: I see. Barack Obama made an endorsement in the governor's race, 446 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: endorsing Governor cecilac against Joe Lombardo, who is backed by 447 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Does this become an Obama Trump proxy? Tell 448 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: us more about it. Well, it's very interesting because Obama 449 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: announced today that he will be here on November first. 450 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: He'll be here with the governor, with Senator Catherine Cortes Masto. 451 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: They expect to have other down ballot Democrats as well. 452 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you saw all three of 453 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: the current House Democrats defending their seats show up for 454 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: that one. But you know, this is Obama coming. Biden 455 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: did not come to Nevada, and he came out here 456 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 1: to go to California and to go to Oregon. Did 457 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: not show up in Nevada, and I think that really 458 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: speaks to just the sentiment that's out there right now 459 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: toward Biden and toward the job that he has done 460 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: as president. Despite you know, him really sort of playing 461 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: well on the campaign trail in certain areas, there are 462 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: other areas of the country where you know, lawmakers aren't 463 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: exactly clamoring to have him come. Fascinating, and it really 464 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: speaks to the fact that you have to be there, 465 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: you have to go there beyond the ground, like Emily is, 466 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: to really understand what's going on. It's great to have 467 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: you back, Emie. You back by Friday night or what 468 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: I actually just got the trip excented till Saturday. Well, 469 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: I will listen. I'm not without you, but we miss 470 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: you here inside the bubble. Emily, thank you as always 471 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: a friend of the program. And of course, Bloomberg Politics 472 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: Congress reporter. Let's bring in the panel here for a moment, 473 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: just to get some impressions as this is one of 474 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: five Senate races rated as a toss up by the 475 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: Cook Political Report, and of course that's you know, look, 476 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: that's not the final word, but it does give you 477 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: a sense here Nevada should be on your list of 478 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: races to watch. Republicans from need a net gain of 479 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: only one seat to take a majority in the Senate. 480 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: Rick Davis and Jennie Chanzano are back with us here. Jeannie, 481 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: what's your take on the Senate race, specifically here Cortez 482 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: Mastow Adam lax All too close to call. It is 483 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: too close to call, and you're absolutely right. You know, 484 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: this is one of the top two races that people 485 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: say potentially Republicans can flip Nevada in Georgia the two 486 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: and then of they're trying to hold Pennsylvania. Those are 487 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: the three most watch this cycle. And it is just 488 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: way too close. I think real clear has Cortez Masso 489 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: up to not where Democrats want to be right now. 490 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: And you know, Emily's point is so important. Joe Biden 491 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: staying away I think speaks volumes. I was also interested 492 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: to hear her say she is hearing a lot on 493 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: the ground about the issue of women's healthcare and abortion. 494 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: So you know, even though it may not be the 495 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: paramount issue, it is still there and something that Democrats 496 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: are really hoping can keep them in that seat. Who 497 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: decides this race Rick, is this independence again? Uh, you 498 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: know independence, but I mean it's it's working classvoters, right, 499 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: these are the ones that are the swing voters, and 500 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: they're going to decide they outcome not just this race, 501 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: but many others. That's gonna be Latino voters in many 502 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: cases on the strip though, right, Well it's quite a 503 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: mix of these days. But yeah, they're gonna vote heavy. 504 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: We'll pick this up straight ahead with Rick and Jeannie. 505 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: Not only the Nevada race. I want to go to Florida. 506 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: Val Demming's pulled it out last night against Marc Ruby. 507 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. We'll bring you in the room because 508 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: we're watching, so you don't have to. This is Bloomberg. 509 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg who sound on with Joe Matthew 510 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. There's a lot to be said for 511 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: name recognition in politics, and when we look closely at 512 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: this Senate race in Nevada, it's enjoyed by both candidates. 513 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: Lack Salt's grandfather, Adam lack salts grandfather Paul, was both 514 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: governor and Senator. Cortez Masto's dad, Manny, head of the 515 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, and was tight with 516 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: a guy named Harry Reid. And you wonder as you 517 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: fast forward to two what either of those legacies represent 518 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: for people in Nevada. Of course, a transient community in 519 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: many cases, a lot of people coming and going in 520 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: a city like Las Vegas, and a lot of growth. 521 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: People moving into Las Vegas or other parts of Nevada 522 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: from various parts of the country might not have that history. 523 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: Let's bring in Rick Davis and Jeanie Chanzano again, reassemble 524 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: the panel for our final moments here on Bloomberg Sound on, Rick, 525 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: to what extent does name recognition when you come from 526 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: a political family like that, help you or hurt you 527 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: in a race like this one? You know, I think 528 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: it helps you. Initially, it helps you develop a team 529 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: of supporters, professional staff. Uh. Donors are gravitated towards name 530 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: I D early on. But once the campaign starts and 531 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: those ads start to burn in, UH, your name I 532 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: D is going to be caught up fast by anybody 533 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: else in a race. So it's something you can buy. 534 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: But if it's really positive. Paul Axalt left the state, 535 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: left the political scene as an icon, and so that 536 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: really is one of the best things about name idea. 537 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: If you're a laxalt is it's positive as opposed to 538 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of Harry Reid rubbing off on Eugenie. 539 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how that how that impacts a Democratic vote. 540 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: We're an independent one in this day and age. Yeah, 541 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: it could be a mixed bag today. Um, you know, 542 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: but like so many other professions, politics is something of 543 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: a family legacy sport. At least I agree with Rick initially. 544 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: It gets you sort of the name recognition, the funding 545 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: out there you have, You're able to attract people to 546 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: the campaign. There's a great deal of interest. I mean, 547 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, there are a lot of years when we 548 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: had choices for president and they were either Clinton or Bush, 549 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, and so we've all seen that in the 550 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: United States. But that wears off, I think as the 551 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: campaign goes on and they have to prove their metal. 552 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: And I think one of the frustrations, quite frankly, for 553 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: Democrats out in Nevada and in Washington in d C. 554 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: Is that Cortez Masso is the incumbent and they expected 555 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: her to be up more than she is. But granted 556 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: it is a tough year for Democrats. Well, I want 557 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: to ask you both about the situation in Florida's quite 558 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: a debate last night, Congresswoman val Deming's up against Senator 559 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio, a race that we shouldn't even be talking 560 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: about right now in the state of Florida. But it 561 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: was quite a performance. And I'm not going to weigh 562 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: in on who won or whatever. This may may have 563 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: no impact on the race at all, but Valve Deming's 564 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: raised a lot of eyebrows last night, having been clearly 565 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: well prepared for this debate, but also just brought a 566 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: very disarming sort of posture to the conversation. It wasn't 567 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: a typical back and forth. Listen to Marco Rubio here 568 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: going after val Deming's and he came loaded for bear 569 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: as well. He had a lot of attack lines, a 570 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: lot of things to criticize Demmings about, and she tended 571 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: to be ready for all of it. She's been in 572 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: Congress for over half a decade. She's never passed a bill, 573 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: not PPP, not anything. Not a single bill she's passed 574 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: as become law. I'm proud of the fact we say 575 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 1: millions of jobs. I'm proud of the fact we did 576 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: it in a bipartisan way. That's not true. I know 577 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: the senator look and I'm really disappointed and you, Marco Rubio, 578 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: because I don't I think there was a time when 579 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: you did not lie in order to win. I don't 580 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: know what happened to you. You know that it is 581 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: not true. My first term in the in the United 582 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: States House, I passed legislation to help law enforcement officers 583 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: certain mental health programs. Now this and in many of 584 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: these exchanges, Val Demming's turns all the way to her 585 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: right and looks directly at Marco Rubio, who's looking straight 586 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: ahead at the camera. Now, I've got a couple of 587 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: questions for both of you. I will set the sort 588 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: of baseline here. According to Real Clear Politics, Rubio is 589 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: up almost five points in the poll of polls. This 590 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: is Marco Rubio country, right. But I wonder if if 591 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: this debate moved the needle for you, Rick Um. You know, 592 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: it's hard to say that the issues weren't a surprise. 593 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: They've been debated for quite some time. I do think 594 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: anything that Val Demings could do to get noticed. I mean, 595 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that this campaign was interrupted by Hurricane in 596 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: and and devastation it brought and everything got put on 597 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: a hold. Uh. And and when you're the challenger, you 598 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: don't like that. That's an unfortunate set of circumstances. So 599 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: she was clearly under pressure to use this debate to 600 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: get back in this game and try and get people's 601 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: attention on her. And I would say that the mention 602 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: you said about looking at Marco Rubio, I think when 603 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: you are trying to communicate with voters and have a 604 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: conversation with him, you gotta look at the camera. They 605 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: don't understand that you're looking sideways at another candidate standard 606 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: on this stage. So that wasn't good for you. You You 607 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't if you're if you're preparing a candidate, Rick, you 608 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: tell them you keep your eyes trained on that camera, 609 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: don't engage the person to your left or right. Yeah, 610 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: you have so few opportunities to talk directly to voters, Uh, 611 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: during a campaign, it's not muted by some kind of 612 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: media interference. And so here's you got a whole hour 613 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: to have a conversation with voters and you're looking in 614 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: the other way. And it's just I would never advise that. 615 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: What was your thought on on that? The sort of 616 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: optics of that debate Genie and was this just an 617 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: interesting hour of television or something that actually factors into 618 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: the race. You know, I thought the debate overall was 619 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: pretty substantive, and I actually liked the debate format itself 620 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: because it felt like they really actually engaged each other. 621 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: You know, it did get down to calling each other 622 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: liars and other other things, but you know, it didn't 623 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: seem as much of an interview as some of these 624 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: debates seem. It really did seem like they debated. And 625 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: I thought Val Demming's you know, this is a this 626 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,280 Speaker 1: is another hard race for Democrats. It's a red state. 627 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, all of the numbers show that Marco Rubio 628 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: has been up and likely will you know, maintain his seat. 629 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: But she came out very strong. And you know, in 630 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: a campaign, when you're on the defensive, it's usually means 631 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: you're losing. And I have to say, during much of 632 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: this debate, Marco Rubial felt to me like he was 633 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: on the defensive. Whether it came to an issue like 634 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: climate change, or it came to an issue like abortion, 635 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: or it came to an issue like guns. She really 636 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: really held her her strength there in all of those cases. 637 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: So you know, I think that Marco Rubio has got 638 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: to be a little bit shaken by what happened, and 639 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: I think she's got to feel very, very good. But 640 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's enough is a big question. Well, 641 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: sometimes that's just the wake up call you need to write. 642 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: Even as a front runner UH. The issue of abortion 643 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: indeed was resonating in the hall, a lot of questions 644 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: about Marco Rubio's UH wishes here and whether he actually 645 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: supports exceptions to the law. On the issue of exceptions, 646 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm being attacked on a bill that has exceptions. It's 647 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: written right in there. My name is on that bill. 648 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: My name is on that bill. There's a reason why 649 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: no bills are ever introduced without exception that because I 650 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: because that can't pass without that in there. And I 651 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: understand and recognize it, and that's why I have continued 652 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: to support bills that have exceptions. But she supports no 653 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: of any kind that is out of the mainstream. That 654 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: is radical, said, how gullible do you really think Florida 655 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: votas are? Number One, you have been cleared that you 656 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: support no exceptions, even including rape and incests. As a 657 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: police detective who investigated cases of rape and incests, no Senator, 658 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's okay for a ten year old 659 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: girl to be raped and have to carry the seed 660 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: of her rapists. I'm assuming that line from Val Demming's 661 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: was prepared in advanced rick is that is that the 662 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: right way to go in a debate that brings you 663 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: into people's living rooms at night. Yeah. Look, Marco Rubio 664 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: is a very canny politician, right, Uh, he can be 665 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: on both sides of this issue, and he was in 666 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: this debate where he personally uh supports life inception and 667 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: doesn't want to back off of that except that he'll 668 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: he'll admit to uh sponsoring and supporting legislation that gives exceptions. 669 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 1: So you know, it's very hard to tie that down. 670 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, Demings did a good job 671 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: of sort of demogoguing it to the point where this example, 672 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: which has so many people have already heard about, of 673 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: a ten year old girl, you know, being forced to 674 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: have carry a child a term you know from a rapist. 675 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: You know that just that just fives people's sensibilities. And 676 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: to be on the other side of that, Marco Rubio 677 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: did the right thing and just didn't respond at all. 678 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: That is that I mean, what else can you do, Genie, 679 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: This is such a difficult conversation. It's it's hard to 680 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: have on the air. It's hard to do it on 681 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: TV in front of people you are trying to win over. 682 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: It is, and it's an incredibly difficult issue. And one 683 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: thing I thought she did really well is something some 684 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: Democrats haven't been doing in the last few weeks is 685 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: making the issue of abortion personal. It's not enough to 686 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: talk about it as something was taken away by the 687 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: Supreme Court where there was some change somewhere. You've got 688 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: to talk about these horrible kinds of cases, as difficult 689 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: as they are, and make it real to people. You know, 690 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: the President was out yesterday talking about abortion and about 691 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: he's promising to put forward legislation next year if possible, 692 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: but even he didn't go to those stories. And unfortunately, 693 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: that's the very type of thing you've got to do 694 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: to make it real to people what this actually means 695 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: and what's at stake in this election. And I think 696 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: she did that well. And Rubio again had no answer. 697 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: He basically was arguing, it's not going to pass the legislature, 698 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: so it's not an issue, but it is an issue, 699 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: and it's his position on the issue that matters, and 700 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: she held him to that. Genie Chanzano and Rick Davis 701 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: our signature panel here on Bloomberg Sound on great insights. 702 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: As always, these are two people not afraid to talk 703 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: about anything, which is why, of course you're with us 704 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: here every night. And on this thirty fifth anniversary of 705 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: Black Monday, can you get over that? Thirty five years 706 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: we spent a lot of time obsessing over losses these 707 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: days on Wall Street and it has been painful, but 708 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: my goodness to put that in perspective, the fact that 709 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: we lost over that day, if that happened today, it 710 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: would be for seven thousand points on the Dow. And 711 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: with a little perspective here, as we go back to 712 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 1: that very day, someone close to our hearts here as 713 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: the home now of Wall Street Week, lou Ruth Kaiser 714 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 1: spoke to America that night that evening. I'm Louis lu Kaiser. 715 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: This is Wall Street Week. Welcome back. Okay, let's start 716 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: with what's really important tonight. It's just your money, not 717 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 1: your life. Everybody who really loved you a week ago 718 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: still loves you tonight, and that's a heck of a 719 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 1: lot more important than the numbers on a brokerage statement. 720 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: The Robbins will sing, the crocuses will bloom, and we'll 721 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: all wake up and see the sun tomorrow