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Speaker 1: Tonight Paul Calvc, Darren Urban from ac Cardinals dot Com
Speaker 1: sitting in for a vacationing Ron Wolfully and you know what, Darren,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna have any problem hitting the
Speaker 1: way back button and recollecting the particulars of this one.
Speaker 1: If you missed it last week, we have busted out
Speaker 1: Cardinals Folk Tales, and we're gonna revisit Cardinals Folk Tales,
Speaker 1: the award winning documentary series that was unveiled this past
Speaker 1: season during the season during a seven and oh tenant
Speaker 1: to start by the Arizona Cardinals. In case you missed it,
Speaker 1: or even if you didn't, there's some really good stories
Speaker 1: and anecdotes. As we say, you can't spell history without
Speaker 1: the words story, and this one goes by the words
Speaker 1: thanks Coach, which refers to Darren going to reverse engineer
Speaker 1: this for us exactly, so thanks Coach is a reference
Speaker 1: to Dennis Green's infamous postgame speech after the Monday night
Speaker 1: meltdown against the Bears in two thousands six and after
Speaker 1: he had his monologue as well, I guess we'll call
Speaker 1: it that everybody remembers and you can still see on
Speaker 1: YouTube and has been immortalized on commercials and the like
Speaker 1: and repeated many many times in different ways and forms.
Speaker 1: Cardinals Vice president of Media Relations Mark Dalton kind of
Speaker 1: waited a beat after Denny finished, and before anybody had
Speaker 1: a chance to say anything, kind of clasped his hands
Speaker 1: together and said, thanks coach. Matt Leiner will be out next,
Speaker 1: and it just it was quite the finish to a
Speaker 1: very surreal kind of moment. And by the way, as
Speaker 1: he went behind that door and left the press commence room,
Speaker 1: there was a certain sideline reporter waiting to do the
Speaker 1: radio version in the interview on the other side of
Speaker 1: that door, which we'll get into once we launch into
Speaker 1: Cardinals Folk Tales. Thanks coach. But yes, you thought the
Speaker 1: game was a meltdown until you got to the post game, right,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it literally turned into
Speaker 1: a beer commercial. Yeah, it was. It was kind of
Speaker 1: The game itself was crazy. I at the time was
Speaker 1: working for the East Valley Tribute newspaper and covering it,
Speaker 1: and like you said, the game itself was was crazy
Speaker 1: how it played out. The Cardinals had a twenty to
Speaker 1: nothing lead and ended up losing the game and missing
Speaker 1: a field goal on the like right at the end
Speaker 1: of the game that would have won it for them.
Speaker 1: After all that and that was it would have been
Speaker 1: interesting enough. And then we went in there and then
Speaker 1: Dennis Green started having a press conference, which started pretty
Speaker 1: normal until the one answer. But you know what, Denny
Speaker 1: Green with the media was an event itself. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was almost performance art in some ways. You know, just
Speaker 1: a week before that, maybe two weeks before that, we
Speaker 1: were in Atlanta and he had declared Matt Liner at
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback by ripping the microphone out of my
Speaker 1: hand as I was doing a live postgame interview with
Speaker 1: rookie Matt Liners. So those are the sort of things
Speaker 1: you had to keep your head on a swivel for
Speaker 1: the head coach, Dennis. But in that particular moment, everyone
Speaker 1: in that take us into the press room, because you
Speaker 1: were bracing right, I mean, you were anticipating, man, there
Speaker 1: could be one angry and agitated head coach potentially when
Speaker 1: it first got in there, and I was literally in
Speaker 1: the in the front row right in front of him,
Speaker 1: probably like three feet in front of Denny, and I
Speaker 1: was expecting either something very sullen and maybe one word
Speaker 1: answers or anger, and it was really neither. At first.
Speaker 1: It was he got asked questions and he was very
Speaker 1: matter of fact about how they blew the game. But
Speaker 1: he was matter of fact about it until he got
Speaker 1: the one that set him off. And then we got
Speaker 1: the famous they are who we thought they were, which well,
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, that is firmly entrenched in NFL history
Speaker 1: is if not pulp pop culture. I would absolutely agree
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, there's there's so many there's a
Speaker 1: couple different parts that people remember. They are who we
Speaker 1: thought they were, and you can crown them. You can
Speaker 1: crown them who takes the third game of the preseason
Speaker 1: like it's blank black. I mean this that it's hard
Speaker 1: to not remember it. But again, one of the things
Speaker 1: I loved about doing this folk tale and I was
Speaker 1: I was the director of the video and helped get
Speaker 1: a lot of the sound for it and the and
Speaker 1: the video, and I just enjoyed kind of going behind
Speaker 1: the scenes of hearing people how as it played out,
Speaker 1: what was kind of going through their heads. And when
Speaker 1: we come back, we'll hit the Big Red way back
Speaker 1: button and we're talking the most memorable moments in Cardinals history.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about Cardinals folk tales and on this
Speaker 1: various special edition of The Big Red Rage presenta by
Speaker 1: santan Ford and Gilbert, we'll get into it next and
Speaker 1: hit rewind on. Thanks Coach on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.
Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone into this special edition of The Big
Speaker 1: Red Rage presenta by santan Ford and Gilbert on Paul
Speaker 1: Calves as we go back through Cardinals folk tales, import
Speaker 1: ticular the Denny Green Meltdown two thousand and six. And
Speaker 1: if you remember that season, it started with a win
Speaker 1: and then the Cardinals lost four in a row, two
Speaker 1: of those buy a combined five points. But the bright
Speaker 1: lights and the big stage were still to come on
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. And you know how we talk about
Speaker 1: sports is the original reality TV? Well, how about a
Speaker 1: game where the Cardinals defense forced the opposing quarterback into
Speaker 1: six turnovers? Right? A game the Cardinals led twenty to
Speaker 1: nothing at the half, yet it's still wound up with
Speaker 1: the pounding of the podium. And it was well after
Speaker 1: the game that we learned that the Denny Green meltdown
Speaker 1: might have been as premeditated as it was spontaneous. So
Speaker 1: here on the Big Red Rage, presented by Satan Bord
Speaker 1: and Gilbert, Here we go with an encore presentation of
Speaker 1: Cardinals folk tales. Thanks coach. Do you believe this is happening? No?
Speaker 1: I cannot remember Denny ever being that out of sorts.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that's going to go down
Speaker 1: in history. I mean, everyone's gonna remember, you know, what
Speaker 1: I mean. We just the Bears are what we thought
Speaker 1: they were. I said to my wife on the drive home,
Speaker 1: what the hell did he mean by that? It was
Speaker 1: going really really well for us. Boy, the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: flying around on defense until it wasn't touchdown Chicago. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: There are no words. It was deflating. We felt like
Speaker 1: we had done enough to win. The meltdown is complete
Speaker 1: for the Cardinal or was it? Because the most memorable
Speaker 1: meltdown was still to come after the game. Coach Dennis
Speaker 1: Green has got to be absolutely beside himself. You could
Speaker 1: say that. Then again, Denny Green did say that a
Speaker 1: postgame press conrence that beer commercials are made up? Literally,
Speaker 1: what do they think they are? They are who we
Speaker 1: done they were, They are who you thought they were.
Speaker 1: A rand with a life of its own that's still
Speaker 1: has legs today. I was I was next up on
Speaker 1: the podium, and I was like, oh my god, what
Speaker 1: am I walking into? Who the hell takes a third
Speaker 1: game in a preseason It was beautiful from the beginning
Speaker 1: to the end to the MIC's lap. If you want
Speaker 1: to crown them, crowned your ass. It was a thing
Speaker 1: of beauty. It started before you all even saw it though,
Speaker 1: Like it started off in the locker room, because when
Speaker 1: my ass gets in there, I'm gonna go eight, and
Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA what it wasn't oh what the
Speaker 1: moment to be sure. Welcome in to Cardinal's Folk Tales,
Speaker 1: Thanks Coach, presented by Ziki, where we go in depth
Speaker 1: into Cardinal's history all time anecdotes through the recollections and
Speaker 1: memories of those who lived it or, in my case,
Speaker 1: those who covered it. My name is Paul Calvic, Cardinal's
Speaker 1: sideline reporter. It was October two thousand and six, Monday
Speaker 1: Night football where the Cardinals led the undefeated Bears Swanty
Speaker 1: to nothing at the half. Yet Coach Green had good
Speaker 1: reason to be angry, frustrated, exasperated, Mount Saint Denny. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, when that clock went triple zero, something snapped
Speaker 1: in Denian. I don't think he ever recovered. He did
Speaker 1: it in a special way that only Dennis beIN could
Speaker 1: do it. But they are what we thought they were,
Speaker 1: and we led him out the hook. Thanks question. Now,
Speaker 1: before we get to the pounding of the podium, it's
Speaker 1: important to understand the stage and the stakes. Two thousand
Speaker 1: and six was the debut season for University of Phoenix
Speaker 1: Stadium state of the art. In fact, the roof was
Speaker 1: open and the lights were bright for the building's first
Speaker 1: regular season game in primetime, and the cameras loved themselves some.
Speaker 1: Matt Liner, the Cardinals rookie quarterback, transcended sports Hack. He
Speaker 1: made People Magazines one hundred most Beautiful list. And as
Speaker 1: most of Matt Leiner's weekly radio show, I used to
Speaker 1: marvel at how USC fans would make the drive to
Speaker 1: Phoenix just to hang out in the sports bar for
Speaker 1: a one hour radio show. And the star qube brought
Speaker 1: out the stars as well. Here's Darren Urban from Azy
Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com. Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore were at
Speaker 1: the game on the sideline before the game, Matt, how
Speaker 1: excited he is Monday Night for you? He might be
Speaker 1: excited too, though, if you had Ashton Kutcher at Demi
Speaker 1: Moore chared for you, David might be fired up. That's
Speaker 1: kind of cool, you know that? Yeah, Demmi? How you done?
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley showed up and he ended up making an
Speaker 1: appearance in the booth during Monday Night football, and there
Speaker 1: was just there was a vibe to it. Everything involved
Speaker 1: just seemed like a height level. People were thinking Matt
Speaker 1: Leiner was going to be the next great quarterback. There
Speaker 1: was just so much involved. It was the first round
Speaker 1: draft pick, Matt Leinert, who was making a second star
Speaker 1: up and now on national TV against a very formidable
Speaker 1: and vaunted Chicago defense. So yeah, it was. There was
Speaker 1: a lot on display and a lot of unique variables
Speaker 1: that went into that game. That's Cardinals VP of Media
Speaker 1: Relations Marked and he's right. All the pregame talk all
Speaker 1: week was all about the five and oh Bears. The
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears are going to the super Bowl. It's the
Speaker 1: best defense in the NFL in the history of this league.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, it's Week six. But if you talk to
Speaker 1: everybody associated with the NFL, including ESPN's Joe Tisman, the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears are on their way to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's voice of the Cardinals Dave Pass, who certainly was
Speaker 1: not ready to crown the Bears. Not in Week six.
Speaker 1: Neither was Cardinals Pro Bowl pass rusher Bertram Barry, who
Speaker 1: wanted the world to know that the a Z played
Speaker 1: some d Everybody was talking about how this is going
Speaker 1: to be a non competitive Monday night football game, and
Speaker 1: we took that to heart. And I know from a
Speaker 1: defense this perspective, we want to go out and show
Speaker 1: that Chicago Bears had a really good defense, but we
Speaker 1: would no slouches either, and we felt like this is
Speaker 1: our opportunity to make a big statement. Yeah, you really
Speaker 1: can't understand the post game or the game without broadening
Speaker 1: lens a little bit to the season and the preseason
Speaker 1: as a whole. The backstory is we played Chicago in
Speaker 1: Chicago in the third preseason game and the Ones versus
Speaker 1: Ones held our own and outplayed the Bears first team.
Speaker 1: That was in the back of Denny's mind the whole
Speaker 1: time coming up into that game. And then we got
Speaker 1: Lovey Smith on our conference call that week and love
Speaker 1: Smith said, it was a glorified practice. We haven't really
Speaker 1: played them yet. They were able to have some success
Speaker 1: against us back then, but it's a totally different mindset.
Speaker 1: The preseason games are important. They're glorified practices to me,
Speaker 1: and I think that God under Denny skin a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think that's important to know and to understand that
Speaker 1: Denny was probably a little disappointed when coach Smith said, yeah,
Speaker 1: that preseason game didn't mean as much to us as
Speaker 1: it seemingly did to you. The game started, and it
Speaker 1: started well. Matt Leiner had two touchdown passes in the
Speaker 1: first quarter. Cardinals beat writer Kent Summers covered the game
Speaker 1: for the Arizona Republic. The Cardinals dominated them in the
Speaker 1: first half, I mean dominant. Matt Leiner was so sharp,
Speaker 1: and you could tell the Cardinals had a game plan
Speaker 1: that put the Bears on their heels. I mean Lyoner
Speaker 1: was hitting short passes everywhere, and they were moving a
Speaker 1: ball and the Bears, you know, Rex Grossman was turning
Speaker 1: the ball over all the time, and I thought they're
Speaker 1: going to win this game, you know, and I think
Speaker 1: everybody did at halftime. That's how good they were in
Speaker 1: the first half and how bad the Bears were. The
Speaker 1: Cardinals defense, you had a young Darnell Docket, a young
Speaker 1: Carlos Stansby, a young entre role. You had bertram Berry
Speaker 1: playing really well. You had Adrian Wilson in the prime
Speaker 1: of his career. It was a pretty good defense that
Speaker 1: was starting to find its way, and they just made
Speaker 1: the Bear's offense look like a disaster. They had Rex
Speaker 1: Grossman at quarterback and Rex wasn't the most talented quarterback.
Speaker 1: He didn't have the best arm, he didn't make the
Speaker 1: best decisions. So we felt like we could get a
Speaker 1: few balls from him, like he would throw us a
Speaker 1: few and maybe we could get some turnovers and go
Speaker 1: for the ball because he was a guy that was
Speaker 1: pretty loose with the ball. He had really small hands.
Speaker 1: Play fake. Grossman steps up, hit the balls out, he
Speaker 1: got sack of the balls loose at the thirty two
Speaker 1: yard line. It was bertrand Berry that came around against
Speaker 1: his first sack of the year and a forced fumble.
Speaker 1: Again they're still wrestling board. It's cardinal ball. Berry comes
Speaker 1: up with the former recovery as well. He did it
Speaker 1: all on that play. We felt like if we could
Speaker 1: get him the turn the ball over more than what
Speaker 1: he had, that we could as an offense score enough
Speaker 1: points in order to get that win home. And it
Speaker 1: almost worked. Almost as mentioned, the defense did its part.
Speaker 1: Rex Grossman finished was six turnovers, four picks, two lost bumbles,
Speaker 1: his passer rating and a halftime seventeen point two. In fact,
Speaker 1: it was twenty to nothing Cardinals getting ready for the
Speaker 1: second half and Dave Pash was still uneasy when the
Speaker 1: Cardinals were up big. Yeah, we were surprised, but I
Speaker 1: think just because we had been snake bitten before. I
Speaker 1: think there was a little concern, like, you got another
Speaker 1: half and then it all started to unravel. Denny kind
Speaker 1: of got a little cautious, didn't want Matt Lennert making
Speaker 1: any any mistakes. They started handing the ball off to
Speaker 1: Edrin James time after time after time, and he wasn't
Speaker 1: going anywhere. He ended up with fifty five yards on
Speaker 1: thirty six carries. That was ridiculous. That's one point five
Speaker 1: yards per carry, and it was carry after carry thirty
Speaker 1: six times. Edrin James ran the ball and got nowhere.
Speaker 1: And it was by design a halftime adjustment to make
Speaker 1: darn sure the rookie QB didn't throw the game away
Speaker 1: literally once again, Ken Summers. I think Denny Green went
Speaker 1: to offensive coordinator Keith Rowan and said, back off, run
Speaker 1: the ball, drained the clock, and that's what they did.
Speaker 1: Bryan or Lacker finished with like one hundred nineteen tackles
Speaker 1: in that game. He hit Edgar and James so often
Speaker 1: it was an unbelieving I've never seen one player hit
Speaker 1: another player so often in any game. They ought to
Speaker 1: name er Lacker Skycamp because he's everywhere. He is making
Speaker 1: plays sideline to sideline. Even though the Cardinals got conservative
Speaker 1: and stunk, the Bears still had to have four things
Speaker 1: go exactly right for him to win that game. Commencing
Speaker 1: countdown to meltdown, ignition to implosion. In three two one
Speaker 1: high formation behind line of three step dropper comes Anderson
Speaker 1: of the Ball's ball, but that's loose on the far
Speaker 1: side of the Bears. Mike Brown picks it up and
Speaker 1: he walks in fresh Chicago touchdown, and the Bears have
Speaker 1: new life with two seconds to go in the third quarter.
Speaker 1: The one thing they can't do is turn the ball
Speaker 1: over in that situation, and that's exactly what happens given
Speaker 1: the Bears. Light Wolf gives me grief all the time
Speaker 1: that somehow I'm the human Jinks with the Cardinals. He
Speaker 1: calls it the pash factor. I say something and the
Speaker 1: next play the opposite happens. Well, he did it to
Speaker 1: Edrin Edrin James, Thank goodness, he's not a fumbler. Very
Speaker 1: next play fumbling. The Cardinals really protecting the football right now.
Speaker 1: And that's the great thing about having Eder and James too.
Speaker 1: The guy's not a fumbler, David. He doesn't put it
Speaker 1: on the ground very often. Five twenty five to go
Speaker 1: in the fort twenty three to ten Arizona, they're out
Speaker 1: of the eye with James the deep man. He gets
Speaker 1: it off the right side, cut it back to the left,
Speaker 1: and he gets stuck right in the legs at the
Speaker 1: forty one yard line and the balls loose. It's fumbled
Speaker 1: to pick up by the Bears far side Tilmot at
Speaker 1: the twenty to ten to five touchdown Chicago. Did I
Speaker 1: just say that? Oh my goodness, a thirty six yard
Speaker 1: fumble recovery for the touchdown by the Chicago Bears, and
Speaker 1: with five minutes to go there within one touchdown, another unforgettable,
Speaker 1: regretable moment. Forget the pash factor, the wolf factor. Jing
Speaker 1: seemingly spoke the fumble into existence. But wait, there's more now,
Speaker 1: time for the Bears special teams to score. Devin Hester.
Speaker 1: When Devin Hester caught the punt work, I'll never forget
Speaker 1: as soon as he caught the ball on the return,
Speaker 1: like he made one move in and you saw it
Speaker 1: pastor waits for it at the eighteen yard line, backs
Speaker 1: up and now runs right into twenty twenty five look
Speaker 1: out thirty nearside, forty at midfield, forty five, forty with
Speaker 1: a kicker to be thirty twenty fifteen ten five touchdown
Speaker 1: Chicago and the Bears unbelievably have tied this football game.
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me. No way, no way, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: There are no works. The meltdown is complete for the
Speaker 1: Cardinals offensively and in transition hunting the ball straight to
Speaker 1: Devin Hester. That that wasn't the best idea. So it
Speaker 1: just it was deflating. It really was, because we felt
Speaker 1: like we had done enough to win, and to see
Speaker 1: him return that punt for a touchdown, it just it
Speaker 1: took a lot to win out of ourselves. But as
Speaker 1: devastating as that may have been, rookie Devin Hester with
Speaker 1: his second career return for touchdown, the Cardinals still had
Speaker 1: two fifty eight left down one twenty four twenty three,
Speaker 1: with one last chance at redemption. What everybody forgets is
Speaker 1: that they fell behind after the part return by Devin Hester,
Speaker 1: and Matt Leiner played like the quarterback of the future
Speaker 1: he came on the field. He led them down the
Speaker 1: field into field goal range for a game winning field
Speaker 1: goal from forty yards. I mean, that's completely doable. And
Speaker 1: then Neil Rackers blows it. The snap's good, balls down,
Speaker 1: Rackers kick is up, it has the lack. Rackers kick
Speaker 1: is no good. Rockers hooked it and he just missed
Speaker 1: it to the left, and the Bears takeover, leading by one. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Never ever seen anything like it. We don't make it.
Speaker 1: Had we made it, history would judge the next half
Speaker 1: hour forty five minutes much differently than than it does now.
Speaker 1: And as the Cardinals VP and media relations Mark Dalton
Speaker 1: there hinted, the drama did not end with the end
Speaker 1: of the game. The most memorable moments were still to come,
Speaker 1: and when we come back, we'll learn how Denny Green's
Speaker 1: meltdown came to be, including what was the question that
Speaker 1: lit the few? And did the question even matter? What
Speaker 1: did Denny Green say right before and after the rant
Speaker 1: That actually explains a lot in hindsight, not to mention
Speaker 1: how Denny eventually embraced and even monetized that moment. As
Speaker 1: we continue with this special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of
Speaker 1: The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert,
Speaker 1: we are santan Ford and welcome back everyone into a
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. I'm
Speaker 1: Paul CALVISI Tonight a special Cardinals Folk Tales edition. This
Speaker 1: is where we say, look, you can't spell the word
Speaker 1: history without the words story. And we have documented memorable
Speaker 1: moments all time in Cardinals history, and tonight we're focusing
Speaker 1: on Denny Green's Monday Night meltdown circa two thousand and
Speaker 1: six that, as we know, we'll live on forever as
Speaker 1: an all time rant. And we're gonna pick up here
Speaker 1: where we left off. Denny Green about to meet the
Speaker 1: media after the Cardinals blew that twenty to nothing halftime
Speaker 1: lead against the Bears, eventually losing twenty four twenty three.
Speaker 1: About as excruciating as it yet it's two words in fact,
Speaker 1: brew toll. Believe me. I was a sidelined reporter for
Speaker 1: that game. I did the coach Green radio interview after
Speaker 1: the game, after the rant, which we'll get to. But
Speaker 1: what about right before the meltdown, right before the media session.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from beat writers Darren Urban and Ken
Speaker 1: Summers and Cardinals VP of Media Relations Marked Dalton. As
Speaker 1: we continue with our encore presentation of Cardinals Folk Tales.
Speaker 1: Thanks coach. Coach Dennis Green has got to be absolutely
Speaker 1: beside himself. So your team just lost in gut wrenching fashion,
Speaker 1: a Shakespearean tragedy on national TV. You're the VP of
Speaker 1: media relations. What do you do? What do you say
Speaker 1: to your head coach Danny? We didn't talk a ton um.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a professional's he's he knows, he
Speaker 1: knows what he's got to do. And but no, there
Speaker 1: was no harbinger of overwhelming sentiment that was any different
Speaker 1: than you would have expected in that situation. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we made our way to the interview room and proceeded
Speaker 1: to address the media. I was literally in the first
Speaker 1: row right in front of the podium. I mean I
Speaker 1: was bracing myself because I'm thinking, here's a guy who's
Speaker 1: going to give us two word answers. He's going to
Speaker 1: be super ticked off. And he wasn't. He came out
Speaker 1: and people started asking questions about hard stuff, and he
Speaker 1: answered like it was any other game. And then came
Speaker 1: the question and things changed. Four picks against Grossman and
Speaker 1: two funnels. What do you see about the Bears of
Speaker 1: we shut them down that way, now, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: we just the Bears are what we thought they were,
Speaker 1: but what he thought they were. The question was nothing
Speaker 1: about that. It was Mark Brown, a freelancer, asking him
Speaker 1: about Rex Grossmith's turnovers. It's like, that's what I remember.
Speaker 1: It's like, what questions set him off? And it was
Speaker 1: typical Denny. It's like, yeah, it had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with That's not what set him off. He had what
Speaker 1: he was going to say, and it was coming out.
Speaker 1: By god, we played him in preseason. Who the hell
Speaker 1: takes the third game in the preseason, like us both book,
Speaker 1: We played him in the third game. Everybody played three
Speaker 1: quarters the Bears or who we thought they were. That's
Speaker 1: why we took the damn field. Now, if you want
Speaker 1: to crown him, they crowned her ass. But they are
Speaker 1: who we thought they were, and we let him out
Speaker 1: the hook. And again the media member who set him
Speaker 1: off was freelance writer Mark Brown, who that evening was
Speaker 1: writing for the Chicago Sun Times. In this particular case,
Speaker 1: I was surprised by Dennis's response because coaches are normally
Speaker 1: much more professional and much more subdued in answering questions,
Speaker 1: but his comments were toward the nature of the game
Speaker 1: itself and not directed toward me, who asked the question,
Speaker 1: or any other of the media representives who were in
Speaker 1: the room that day. It was just venting in just
Speaker 1: a level of frustration that he probably felt that he
Speaker 1: had to exhibit at a certain time, and it was
Speaker 1: delivered to the moment, and it wasn't delivered specifically to
Speaker 1: an individual. It's interesting the way it started. It was
Speaker 1: fairly calm, and when it was over, it was over.
Speaker 1: It was just that minute and a half in between
Speaker 1: that it was not what was interesting to me about
Speaker 1: that whole moment, as if you covered that team. His
Speaker 1: rant made sense because they had played the Bears in
Speaker 1: the third preseason game. The Cardinals had played their starters
Speaker 1: into the third quarter, The Cardinals had played well against
Speaker 1: the Bears. They were very confident. That's where the whole
Speaker 1: The Bears are who we thought they were. You know,
Speaker 1: we lewed him off the hook. We played them in preseason.
Speaker 1: Who the hell takes a third game in a preseason
Speaker 1: his book, The rare use of both back to back
Speaker 1: was just you don't see that in a press conference.
Speaker 1: Very off. Frankly, the way the game was trending. For
Speaker 1: three quarters, was was bearing out what Denny was preaching,
Speaker 1: which was, hey, don't let don't listen to anybody else.
Speaker 1: You're every bit the equal of this Chicago Bears team,
Speaker 1: even the other five and old. And for three quarters
Speaker 1: he was one hundred percent right and should have been
Speaker 1: standing in that podium with great pride. And I think
Speaker 1: that is probably all the things happening with him and
Speaker 1: what led to what it led to their bears or
Speaker 1: who we thought they were. That's why we took the
Speaker 1: damn field. Now, if you want to crown them, they've
Speaker 1: crowned your ass. You know. You decide, all right, I
Speaker 1: better get in there and cut this off so we
Speaker 1: don't have another question and keep this going. And there's
Speaker 1: different ways you can do that, right, So one of
Speaker 1: the ones is just okay, I'll interject and thank the
Speaker 1: coach for his time. As I think back, we probably
Speaker 1: weren't going to get another question because he's just looking
Speaker 1: around the room. There are a lot of jaws on
Speaker 1: the floor, and people were a little like okay. So
Speaker 1: as you read the room, I thought it would be appropriate,
Speaker 1: in hindsight, perhaps not to just pay nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: We're moving on with the rest of our program here.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Coach Green. They are when we thought they were,
Speaker 1: and we let him out the hook. Thanks coach. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that that did generate a little bit of attention.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful, from the beginning to the end, to
Speaker 1: the mic slap to Mark Dalton coming in and breaking
Speaker 1: it up. It was a thing of beauty. When I
Speaker 1: closed my eyes and I think about it, I always
Speaker 1: think of Mark Dalton because Mark was the one that
Speaker 1: had to say thank you, Denny. And you know, at
Speaker 1: that point, I think Mark was literally afraid to say anything,
Speaker 1: and you know, Denny heard him, and he just walked
Speaker 1: off and he walked straight to Paul Calls becall had
Speaker 1: to interview him right after that. Not having a clue
Speaker 1: what did it happened. We were waiting, as we normally
Speaker 1: do for the postgame interview with Paul, so we're waiting
Speaker 1: for Denny and we see on the JumboTron Denny hit
Speaker 1: the microphone say what he said, and Jim Momahundro, the producer,
Speaker 1: gets in Paul's ear and goes, Paul, here comes coach,
Speaker 1: and he's pissed. And then I think Denny said the
Speaker 1: exact same thing to Paul the whole third preseason game.
Speaker 1: They are who we thought they were. The last question me,
Speaker 1: head coach Dennis Green, what do you think we'll stick
Speaker 1: with your most from this one? Well, I just think
Speaker 1: that we you know, the Bears are what we thought
Speaker 1: they were. We played in the third preseason the game
Speaker 1: they played their first team for three quarters. We played
Speaker 1: arts the first three quarters. They are what we thought
Speaker 1: they were. If you want to make them more than that,
Speaker 1: everybody can. The Bears are exactly like we thought they were.
Speaker 1: And if they're the consensus number one coach, was it
Speaker 1: say about the potential of the Cardinals number ones at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Not Now there you go,
Speaker 1: head coach Dennis Screen. Guys, we will throw it back
Speaker 1: to you. Thanks a lot. Paul and Dennis Green obviously
Speaker 1: fired up. As a matter of fact, before Paul spoke
Speaker 1: with him, he had his press conference which was played
Speaker 1: here in the stadium, and well, let's put it this way,
Speaker 1: he was a lot more calm with Paul than he
Speaker 1: was with the media, as he was very upset visibly.
Speaker 1: What I always tell people is that if you remember
Speaker 1: when Dennis Green exits the press conference, room. He goes
Speaker 1: through that door right well, on the other side of
Speaker 1: that door was yours. Truly totally unaware I was of
Speaker 1: what had just gone down, what was about to go viral.
Speaker 1: In fact, the wheels were already in motion. Press conference
Speaker 1: ended and I walked into the locker room where another
Speaker 1: member of our staff, Chris Melvin, was and he said,
Speaker 1: as he always does, you know, hey, how was coach?
Speaker 1: I pause, and I thought, I'm not sure how how
Speaker 1: to succinctly describe it, and he goes, what do you mean.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think you'll you'll see it soon enough,
Speaker 1: and as it turns out, often enough. The immediate aftermath
Speaker 1: was you know, all over the place. I mean ESPN
Speaker 1: was playing it like every six seconds. I felt like
Speaker 1: that night, you know today that those moments, you know,
Speaker 1: as soon as they happened, it's like going to be iconic.
Speaker 1: But even back then, I just knew, you know, they
Speaker 1: had those famous Coors Light commercials back then where they
Speaker 1: took real moments in history, the Jim Mora Playoffs and
Speaker 1: those things, and I remember thinking, Denny just got himself
Speaker 1: a Coors Light commercial. Hey, cos those guys just took
Speaker 1: off with all your cold refreshing Coors light. Who do
Speaker 1: they think they are? They are who we thought they were.
Speaker 1: They are who you thought they were? Well, who do
Speaker 1: you think they were? They are who we thought they were. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you knew who they were, why didn't you stop them?
Speaker 1: But yet am about the hook? I think there are
Speaker 1: some people that felt that that was a little staged,
Speaker 1: like it was coming the whole. They are who we
Speaker 1: thought they were. But who cares? Right, it didn't have
Speaker 1: to be completely off the cuff. So what if he
Speaker 1: thought about a little bit before we went in there?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what Hollywood's all about, then he could
Speaker 1: have made it knowledge with her. Yeah, Dave Pash is
Speaker 1: onto something there, because, as we learned years later, Dennis
Speaker 1: Green had a post game plan. In fact, we're here
Speaker 1: from Gabe Watson and Matt Leiner. But first, here's Bertrand
Speaker 1: Berry taking us back inside that Monday night locker room
Speaker 1: where coach Green called his shot. His shirt was untucked,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a hat on, and those were two
Speaker 1: things that you never saw with Denny. You never saw
Speaker 1: him without a hat and you never saw his shirt untucked.
Speaker 1: And he was kicking this green gatorade cup, you know
Speaker 1: those green Gatorade paper cups. He just was kicking this one,
Speaker 1: you know, on the ground. Wasn't saying anything. It was
Speaker 1: just it was early quiet, like I'll never forget it.
Speaker 1: And I can't even repeat all the things that he said,
Speaker 1: but the basic crux of the matter was he said,
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody saying anything to the media because
Speaker 1: when I get in there, I'm going off. He didn't
Speaker 1: see it quite like that, but you can kind of
Speaker 1: guess how colorful it got. He came in there, heated,
Speaker 1: and the first thing he said was, I don't want
Speaker 1: anyone saying anything to the media because when my I
Speaker 1: can't say the next word going there, I'm gonna go eight.
Speaker 1: I can't say the next word. Yeah, so you called it.
Speaker 1: He said he was gonna go off. Yeah, this a
Speaker 1: little pre premeditated. I can't quite get up that high. Men.
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody saying anything to the media when
Speaker 1: I get in there, because when my ass gets in there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go eight. And I was like, whoa what.
Speaker 1: It just was the weirdest thing that I could ever remember.
Speaker 1: I cannot remember Denny ever being that out of sorts
Speaker 1: like it just something snapped. I'm telling you, when that
Speaker 1: clock went triple zero, something snapped in Denny and I
Speaker 1: don't think he ever recovered. Everybody remembers where they were
Speaker 1: when it went down. When Danny Green went off, you
Speaker 1: were were I was. I was next up on the podium,
Speaker 1: so I remember, I was just kind of standing there.
Speaker 1: I actually caught the tail end of it and then
Speaker 1: uh and then Mark comes up and says, Okay, next up,
Speaker 1: Matt Liner and I and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: what am I walking into? You know? And I was.
Speaker 1: I was upset obviously the last two. But I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those one of those things that's
Speaker 1: gonna go down to history. Is I mean, everyone's gonna remember.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's more coach, more playoffs. Don't talk
Speaker 1: about the playoffs, Oklahoma State coach. I'm a man, I'm forty.
Speaker 1: There's a Denny Bears who we thought they were. There's
Speaker 1: there's a handful of guys you know that are forever
Speaker 1: gonna be a go down in history as some of
Speaker 1: the best one liners. I guess, you know, so to speak,
Speaker 1: Come on, give me a few lines. What do you
Speaker 1: remember from it? How to go. They are who we
Speaker 1: thought they were. It doesn't about the hook. Players would
Speaker 1: joke about it in the locker room. I was one
Speaker 1: of the guys to joke abroad, and sometimes I'll say,
Speaker 1: you know, do the voice and whatever to the media.
Speaker 1: Give us a dramatic reenactment, if you will. They were
Speaker 1: who we thought they weren't, and we let him off
Speaker 1: the hook. Players like, man, what are you doing? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's wrong. I'm just being me, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a clown sometimes, you know. And then they were here,
Speaker 1: were they were? They? They were here, we talked they
Speaker 1: were I mean, you know, and that's how we took
Speaker 1: the damn field. And if they want to crown them
Speaker 1: and crown there at they were we thought they were,
Speaker 1: and we allowed them off the Bears who we thought
Speaker 1: they were. They were who we thought they weren't. The
Speaker 1: Bears are who we thought they were, and we led
Speaker 1: them off the hook. Do you want to crown them?
Speaker 1: Crown him? Do you watch the third preseason game, in
Speaker 1: the third preseason game, barring that to a regular season game,
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it wasn't funny. After the loss, after
Speaker 1: a few years being removed and like seeing this commercial
Speaker 1: pop up and it's you know, the same deal, and
Speaker 1: it's like, man, it's hilarious. You know you didn't like
Speaker 1: laugh and joke with guy's body and the impersonations definitely
Speaker 1: weren't limited to the Cardinals locker room. On Fox NFL Sunday,
Speaker 1: for instance, Hall of Famers too, Mary Bradshaw and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson channeled there enter Denny. Can the Cardinals recover from
Speaker 1: a lost like, well, I think they can't. H I
Speaker 1: think they can't. We are who we think we are.
Speaker 1: You just cry all you can do it, Jimmy crowd him.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't think they can. They got
Speaker 1: a good quarterback all right now. Not even a year later,
Speaker 1: even the cardinals next head coach waited for the perfect
Speaker 1: opportunity to drop his own Denny inspired quote. Here's Ken
Speaker 1: Wizzenot cracking himself up. I mean, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people outside of the team or outside maybe at
Speaker 1: this conference, don't really know a lot about Ankuin, But
Speaker 1: when you study him on taping you and you see him,
Speaker 1: it's pretty apparent that he's a good football player. So
Speaker 1: he is what we thought he was just kind of
Speaker 1: just I couldn't decide whether I could go with that.
Speaker 1: That was great. I've been I've been waiting for so
Speaker 1: long for that one. Okay, honestly, that's probably the most
Speaker 1: or at least the hardest we ever heard. Ken wizzon
Speaker 1: ont laugh as the Cardinals head coach from two thousand
Speaker 1: and seven to two twelve, because no doubt, Dennis Green
Speaker 1: was a tough act to follow. In more ways than one.
Speaker 1: Every day was an adventure. You never knew what you
Speaker 1: were going to get. I always I always felt like
Speaker 1: sometimes I needed a Denny Green interpreter. You felt like
Speaker 1: you were covering maybe one of the last true characters
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And in some ways maybe we should
Speaker 1: have seen the Monday night meltdown coming because, for example,
Speaker 1: on his radio show one week, we asked about the
Speaker 1: old line and the whole boy, did we get an answer?
Speaker 1: I know during training camp some of the offensive linemensighted,
Speaker 1: you know, just the constant media discussion of the offensive line,
Speaker 1: you know, as the week lank and just saying all
Speaker 1: pointed flick line as so much those and half those
Speaker 1: guys are making a with three million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: They need to just get off their butts and start
Speaker 1: doing a job. You know, And I don't like to
Speaker 1: feel sorry for guys. There's no rum for cry baby's
Speaker 1: no no rum for soft side. When your offensive a linement,
Speaker 1: you're getting paid big money, didn't do your job. You
Speaker 1: can go watch Mason High School play and you can
Speaker 1: tell if the lineman or doing a job or not.
Speaker 1: A seventy five year old woman in the stands can
Speaker 1: tell if you're doing a job not because what happens
Speaker 1: is the guy got blocked or he didn't. All right,
Speaker 1: that was a doozy. And then a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: before the Monday night meltdown in Atlanta, after Coach Green
Speaker 1: had pulled starting quarterback Kurt Warner for rookie Matt Liner,
Speaker 1: we had one last question in the locker room for
Speaker 1: Liner when Coach Green blitzed us from behind and answered
Speaker 1: in person, what do you know about the quarterback situation
Speaker 1: going forward? Now? Oh, I don't know anything. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna be ready to play whenever I can Matt to
Speaker 1: start next week. Mattch done. Yeah, that was a real time.
Speaker 1: Alrighty then moment for sure. But for all we heard
Speaker 1: Danny Green had an eye for talent. He's two thousand
Speaker 1: and four draft class, Larry Fitzgerald, Carlos Stansby, Darnell Docket
Speaker 1: in the first three rounds in all timer. In fact,
Speaker 1: Denny's players formed the backbone of that two thousand and
Speaker 1: eight Super Bowl team. Former third round pick Darnell Dockett
Speaker 1: will always remember the man who saw what Docket could become,
Speaker 1: maybe even before he did. Everybody will always remember him
Speaker 1: because of the they were, who we thought they were.
Speaker 1: Everybody that speech will be forever him. But the thing
Speaker 1: that stands out to me was I brought you here
Speaker 1: not to be a backup. I brought you here to
Speaker 1: be a starter. Now get out, dann working like dash.
Speaker 1: My speech from that day on, I never looked back,
Speaker 1: and that's our look back at Dennis Green and who
Speaker 1: we thought he was in that very memorable moment. We
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed. Cardinals Folk Tales, Thanks Coach, presented by
Speaker 1: Sky for producer Jim Almahundro. I'm Paul calvc as we
Speaker 1: leave you with a final word from Cardinals VP Mark Dalton,
Speaker 1: who spent as much time as any one with Dennis Green. Sadly,
Speaker 1: Danny passed away in twenty sixteen, and a number of
Speaker 1: us went to San Diego to his funeral service, and
Speaker 1: the program of the funeral service was really well done,
Speaker 1: and like many, it had his picture on the front
Speaker 1: and the program and the songs and the scripture readings.
Speaker 1: But on the back page of the program it had
Speaker 1: famous Denny Green quotations and I think there were eight
Speaker 1: to ten, but the very first one in the program
Speaker 1: his funeral was they are who we thought they were?
Speaker 1: And about that A look back at Denny Green's memorable
Speaker 1: meltdown Cardinals folk Tales. Thanks coach and four A head
Speaker 1: coach who won one hundred and thirteen regular season games
Speaker 1: in his career plus four playoff games. It's zoom out here.
Speaker 1: Even Denny Green knew that's what he'd be remembered for.
Speaker 1: In fact, as reports said later, he tried unsuccessfully to
Speaker 1: trademark that phrase Danny Green. Now when we come back,
Speaker 1: we'll bring back Darren Urman on how that moment that
Speaker 1: rant has lived on and still resonates today and what's
Speaker 1: coming this fall when it comes to Cardinal's Folk Tales.
Speaker 1: That is next. This is the Big Red Rage presenta
Speaker 1: by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford Welcome
Speaker 1: back into this very special edition of The Big Red Rage,
Speaker 1: presenta by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford,
Speaker 1: We are Paul Calvec Darren Urban from ac Cardinals dot com.
Speaker 1: This is our Cardinals Folk Tales edition. We just heard,
Speaker 1: thanks coach, the story of the Denny Green meltdown and
Speaker 1: some of the quotes that will live forever. They are
Speaker 1: who we thought they were, which we just learned. Denny
Speaker 1: Green actually tried to trademark about a year afterwards, and
Speaker 1: as Mark Alton, the VP of Media Relations, told us
Speaker 1: at Denny Green's funeral, it was the first quote listed
Speaker 1: on the funeral card. So it was something that he
Speaker 1: did come to embrace it and it did define him
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and he was able to
Speaker 1: monetize it via beer commercials. I mean, I think it's
Speaker 1: kind of cool that Denny eventually understood what it really
Speaker 1: meant in the grand scheme of things. I think it's funny.
Speaker 1: I think back to Denny and that year before Matt
Speaker 1: Leiner signed his contract in training camp, somebody had told
Speaker 1: me that going into a press conference after one of
Speaker 1: the training camp practices that Denny's Denny was going to
Speaker 1: have a little something to say about Matt Leiner not
Speaker 1: signing his contract, and it kind of came up in
Speaker 1: the same way. And this is what I always think
Speaker 1: about when I think of the Monday Night meltdown. Was
Speaker 1: the somebody asked a question about it somebody's injury, Antonio
Speaker 1: Smith's toe or Carlos Dansby's toe or something, and somehow
Speaker 1: that Cardinals were playing in New England for preseason game
Speaker 1: that week, and somehow Denny turned that question into a
Speaker 1: soliloquy about how Tom Brady was going to be playing
Speaker 1: in the preseason game and Kurt Warner was going to
Speaker 1: be playing in the preseason game and how come Matt
Speaker 1: Liner it was? And that whole thing kind of reminded
Speaker 1: me the same way he played off the question for
Speaker 1: the Thanks coach, Yeah, the question didn't really matter now,
Speaker 1: it was gonna happen. It was gonna happen. It was
Speaker 1: just a matter of time before all. Right. So look,
Speaker 1: the offseason, we know in the NFL is all about lists, right,
Speaker 1: Everybody likes to formulate these lists, and they fill time
Speaker 1: and content and all that. Where does that moment rank
Speaker 1: in your journalism career? Where where does that moment rank,
Speaker 1: it's just an all time WTH moment. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think for a press conference that's number one. That's
Speaker 1: pretty obvious, and just in general that game. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know it's it's a tough one for a lot
Speaker 1: of Cardinals fans and that's understandable. But the package of
Speaker 1: that how that game played out, I mean, the Cardinals
Speaker 1: were the better team that night and there was no
Speaker 1: question about that, and somehow they lost the game and
Speaker 1: then to have it kind of topped off and really
Speaker 1: that kind of sent everything in a tail spin that game,
Speaker 1: did you know, because you entered one in four, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you would have been two and four and you would
Speaker 1: have beaten the undefeated Bears, right, but now you're one
Speaker 1: in five. And in fact, the offensive coordinator lost his
Speaker 1: job the next day, Keith Rowan, who to this day
Speaker 1: claims that Danny told him to take the air out
Speaker 1: of the ball and just run the ball in the
Speaker 1: second half, which Edgerrin James did like thirty something times
Speaker 1: for less than two yards of carry. Thirty six carries
Speaker 1: fifty five yards. Jeez. But but to your point about
Speaker 1: how it was premeditated, we hear we heard bertrand Barry
Speaker 1: and Gay Watson say, how you know he did come
Speaker 1: in and tell the players, don't say anything. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do the speaking on this one. Yeah, And and sure
Speaker 1: enough he did. And look, it was just it was
Speaker 1: sort of the way Danny Green went about things back
Speaker 1: in that day. You just had more of the personality,
Speaker 1: You had more emotion, you know. Now a lot of
Speaker 1: these head coaches are more like CEOs. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: got out there and not only was he an expert
Speaker 1: on personnel, and he had a great eye for talent,
Speaker 1: and we all know about the two thousand and four
Speaker 1: draft class, but he didn't hesitate to take to e
Speaker 1: put heat on his own locker room or in cases
Speaker 1: where a team lost, take heat off a locker room.
Speaker 1: And that was always, I think a sign of a
Speaker 1: great coach right where you would deflect and defend your
Speaker 1: own locker room. I think there was a lot of
Speaker 1: expectations for that team too, going into the year, drafting
Speaker 1: Matt Liner, signing edgarn James. They had some really young
Speaker 1: talent fits doc at Dansby, and for them to kind
Speaker 1: of flounder out of the box, that really that was
Speaker 1: tough and ended up being Danny Green's last year coaching him.
Speaker 1: It was you know what to me, that was the
Speaker 1: epitome of infotainment. It was entertaining, it was informational. Danny Green,
Speaker 1: the singular personality and head coach. Special thanks not only
Speaker 1: did Darren for sitting in here tonight, but our Jim
Speaker 1: Almahandro not only fine producer of The Big Red Rage,
Speaker 1: but the Cardinals Folk Tales podcast which you can find
Speaker 1: at Acy Cardinals dot com. Special thanks Zach Larson for tonight.
Speaker 1: We're going to continue. We have a two for next week,
Speaker 1: a couple of Cardinals Folk Tales as we continue during
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