Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jettie and Pee.
Speaker 3: Armstrong and Gutty so I, Joe, Eddy and my bride Judy.
Speaker 2: After many, many, many.
Speaker 3: Years of talking about doing this, finally made our big
Speaker 3: trip to Europe. Part of the problem is just Jack
Speaker 3: and I rarely take two weeks in a row off,
Speaker 3: and by the time you spend you know, unless you
Speaker 3: live like in a major international airport on the east
Speaker 3: coast city, it takes a while to get there and
Speaker 3: then it takes a while to get back, and so
Speaker 3: you've got to build a couple of days on each
Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. And so we've been talking about
Speaker 3: this for years. We finally did it. We went and
Speaker 3: took one of those river cruises in this specifically in
Speaker 3: the southern Germany, Bavaria, Austria, Little.
Speaker 2: Hungary, that sort of thing. Slovakia too interesting. There's one
Speaker 2: river that goes through all those places, the Danube. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, yes, yeah, and it was. It was.
Speaker 2: It was wonderful.
Speaker 3: It was great, except that the week before we got
Speaker 3: in there, there was a huge snowfall and then heavy,
Speaker 3: heavy rains right around when we were getting there, And
Speaker 3: anybody who lives near rivers knows there's a couple of
Speaker 3: days that everything's flowing into those rivers. Long story short,
Speaker 3: the rivers got so high and we're running so swiftly
Speaker 3: they closed all the locks, and two and a half
Speaker 3: days and two nights before we were supposed to do
Speaker 3: they booted us off the boat and said we can't
Speaker 3: be on the river anymore, which was such a bummer
Speaker 3: because I was absolutely loving it, not just the life
Speaker 3: on the boat and the people and the food and
Speaker 3: the drink, and then watching the world go by from
Speaker 3: the top deck, even though it was cold. I was
Speaker 3: up there, bundled up, watching the little villages go by,
Speaker 3: loving it so much.
Speaker 4: So do you sleep on the boat or you stop
Speaker 4: in towns and state hotels?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: No, that you have lovely cabins on the boat. Okay,
Speaker 3: did you sleep in and a big boat?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 3: Oh it is, yeah, although it's not a it's not
Speaker 3: a big big boat. I think there were a hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty two people on it, and you know, it's
Speaker 3: a fairly high dollar thing to do. But again, we've
Speaker 3: been putting it off for decades. But great cruise company
Speaker 3: that's not paying for air time, so I won't mention them.
Speaker 3: But they since they had to boot us off the boat,
Speaker 3: they hastily arranged some other stuff to do and a
Speaker 3: couple of extra nights in Muniche.
Speaker 2: Like the airlines give you a free drink ticket.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. You can sleep on shore if you want.
Speaker 3: Those trees over there will probably give you some shelter.
Speaker 3: But so we had already committed to spend two nights
Speaker 3: in Munich, and we ended up with four nights in Munich, Germany,
Speaker 3: which was absolutely I mean, as things go, if you're
Speaker 3: going to have a curveball thrown at you, that's a
Speaker 3: pretty good result. And we just loved being in Munich.
Speaker 3: It's a cool city. It's tons and tons of history, food, drink,
Speaker 3: that sort of thing. And I want to get to Munich,
Speaker 3: specifically in a couple of brown Oh are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: A couple of stray notes before I get into the
Speaker 3: important stuff. In Vienna, Austria, which we spent several nights
Speaker 3: in at the beginning of the trip.
Speaker 2: I ate so much Wiener Schnitzel.
Speaker 3: I ate it like night number one and thought, this
Speaker 3: is the best thing I've ever had. I am going
Speaker 3: to compare and contrast the Vener's Schnitzel.
Speaker 2: Everywhere we go. So I got heavily into vener Schnenzel.
Speaker 2: So good. Now, what is that?
Speaker 3: Roughly, just briefly, Well, it's like a pressed down veal,
Speaker 3: usually breaded with some super delicious potatoes and then cranberry
Speaker 3: like preserves that you have with it. And you combine
Speaker 3: the bread and meat with the potatoes with the cranberry,
Speaker 3: and you eat it all at once, and it's proof
Speaker 3: that God loves us and wants.
Speaker 2: Us to be happy.
Speaker 4: But we don't eat it in America. I saw you
Speaker 4: the picture you sent us. I thought, why isn't this
Speaker 4: a more common thing in the United States.
Speaker 3: You got to go to a German restaurant that's really
Speaker 3: the only people to serve it. But I fell in
Speaker 3: love with it. Second stray note Google Tran. I've said
Speaker 3: Google is evil many many times as a corporation. They
Speaker 3: remind me of how some Muslims view the United States.
Speaker 3: They call us the great Satan. They don't mean the
Speaker 3: great evil, they mean the great temp tour with the
Speaker 3: pleasures of the flesh. And materialism and porn and the
Speaker 3: rest of it. Google's the great temp tour. It offers
Speaker 3: you these incredible tools and then steals all your data, right,
Speaker 3: And you know, give them the choice between having Satan
Speaker 3: steal my soul and Google steal my data. You can
Speaker 3: have my data. But they're the great Satan in that way.
Speaker 3: And one of their temptations is Google Translate.
Speaker 2: It is so amazing. I hadn't even thought of that.
Speaker 2: Remember my story.
Speaker 4: I used that with the maid when the guy disappeared
Speaker 4: in my neighborhood a while back, and I was so
Speaker 4: amazed by it. But when I went to Russia that
Speaker 4: was pre iPhone. Now would have changed everything on thatsblutely
Speaker 4: if I could have gotten around with Google Translate.
Speaker 3: So not only can you type in a phrase and
Speaker 3: get it translated, you can use the microphone and it
Speaker 3: translates on the fly, or you can take a picture
Speaker 3: of a sign and it'll tell you what the science says.
Speaker 2: Gotta be fantastic. Oh, and I was so geeking out
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 3: I studied German for years and years, but it's a
Speaker 3: hard language and that was years ago, so it was
Speaker 3: so much fun to think, you know.
Speaker 2: I think I know what that means in verify it.
Speaker 3: Or you'd come across a slogan for a Schnitzel company
Speaker 3: and you'd think I could translate it in German, but
Speaker 3: I was like, what the hell does that actually mean?
Speaker 3: So anyway, I geeked out on Google Translate that would
Speaker 3: be so handy.
Speaker 2: I loved it. It was just fun. So anyway, that.
Speaker 3: Third stray note when we had to get booted off
Speaker 3: the boat because all the locks had closed and everything.
Speaker 2: It was Christmas Day.
Speaker 3: I spent seven and a half hours of Christmas Day
Speaker 3: on a bus, which was just not that great, going
Speaker 3: from Bratislava in Slovakia, which is a great old historic
Speaker 3: city to Saltzburg, Mozart's hometown, which was it was a
Speaker 3: very interesting day, but it was like five hours to
Speaker 3: get there, and then after spending half of the day
Speaker 3: in Salzburg, then it was time to start our stint
Speaker 3: in Munich, which was another two and a half hours.
Speaker 2: Although oh that brings to mind.
Speaker 3: It was my first experience on the autobon the Audubon famously,
Speaker 3: where there is no speed limit, but the Germans are
Speaker 3: incredibly disciplined drivers.
Speaker 2: Everybody follows the damned law.
Speaker 3: So if you want to pass, you move to the left,
Speaker 3: you pass, you immediately get.
Speaker 2: Back to the right immediately.
Speaker 3: I saw maybe one exception to that in miles and
Speaker 3: hours and hours and hours of travel.
Speaker 2: It admires the discipline of the Germans. Oh, I absolutely.
Speaker 2: Do you sound a little like Trump?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 2: I will tell I will tell you this.
Speaker 3: On the way to the airport, our our on the
Speaker 3: autobon our taxi driver, taxi, it was like a really
Speaker 3: nice Mercedes. But our driver to the airport hit one
Speaker 3: hundred and five mile proper awesome on the autobobo. Well,
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: Nice cars, it's nothing to go that fast. So I
Speaker 4: don't know why we can't do it in the United States.
Speaker 4: But do you think they follow the laws so strictly?
Speaker 4: Are the penalties just so strict or is it just
Speaker 4: a cultural thing? We follow the rules?
Speaker 3: Ding ding Ding, which brings me to section two of
Speaker 3: our talk. Munich is the birthplace of the Nazi movement,
Speaker 3: the National Socialists as they refer to them in in Germany.
Speaker 3: And is everybody that's correct, Michael, In all of the
Speaker 3: years of you playing that clip, finally it's appropriate. And
Speaker 3: I Joe have long been an avid student to the
Speaker 3: point of near obsession of the rise and follow the
Speaker 3: Third Reich, partly because I studied German language and culture
Speaker 3: and history, and also because I am apparently unendingly fascinated
Speaker 3: by the idea of a dopey little political part started
Speaker 3: by a bunch of losers and misfits gaining the reins
Speaker 3: of a modern large nation and then leading to the
Speaker 3: greatest conflagration known to man and the slaughter of millions
Speaker 3: and millions and millions of innocent people. How does that
Speaker 3: happen among Homo sapiens is one of my greatest fascinations.
Speaker 3: And so there I was in Munich, at the birthplace
Speaker 3: of the Nazi movement. In a couple of things we did,
Speaker 3: and God bless my bride. I am so lucky to
Speaker 3: be married to the best friend I'll ever have, and
Speaker 3: she knows how I am about that. So she said, yeah, hey,
Speaker 3: this is your party. If you want to do that,
Speaker 3: let's do that. And so in between the gigantic steins
Speaker 3: of dark beer and the Wiener Schnitzel and the window
Speaker 3: shopping and history and that sort of thing, I geeked
Speaker 3: out on the whole Nazi history. They have the National
Speaker 3: Socialist Documentation Center. It's a four story museum of the
Speaker 3: rise in the fall of the Third Reich, with contemporary
Speaker 3: news articles, post speech, is video everything, it's how it happened.
Speaker 4: So that's part of their laying on their backs, showing
Speaker 4: their belly. They're embarrassed by a thing that they've been
Speaker 4: doing for years.
Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, I wouldn't put it exactly that way, but
Speaker 2: that's close enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they the German people not only went along with,
Speaker 3: but a lot of them went along with very enthusiastically
Speaker 3: the Nazi movement, which led to all those millions of
Speaker 3: dad And you could certainly argue the rise of the
Speaker 3: Soviet Union really in the second half of the twentieth century,
Speaker 3: but and the Iron Curtain and the rest of it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, it's it's atonement. But that center, if
Speaker 3: you ever get a chance to go to it, is
Speaker 3: just amazing in that it fleshes it out. How do
Speaker 3: you go from unknown, destitute, former corporal in the military
Speaker 3: to fere with the power to kill millions and millions
Speaker 3: of people. It fleshes that out. And the second thing
Speaker 3: we did, and if you have any questions, shack free
Speaker 3: to jump.
Speaker 4: Trump showing us according to The New York Times, Trump,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, what now?
Speaker 2: Trump is showing us how you do that? According to
Speaker 2: the New York Times.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not exactly, although there are elements of it that
Speaker 3: are similar, wildly overblown in this case, but similar, And
Speaker 3: I want to get to that. But the second thing
Speaker 3: we did was we went to the doc Out concentration camp,
Speaker 3: which was an unspeakably horrific place of death and torture
Speaker 3: and misery and starvation and disease and levels of cruelty
Speaker 3: that are worth contemplating if you're the sort of person
Speaker 3: who can it's. It's it's a fascinating experience to tour
Speaker 3: it and read all of it. It is a miserable experience.
Speaker 3: It's it's heartbreaking and disturbing, and you know, I could
Speaker 3: go on and on about it.
Speaker 2: I won't. Two people, but the Dacout model was exported
Speaker 2: to all of the.
Speaker 3: Dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of concentration camps
Speaker 3: we all know about the famous ones.
Speaker 2: There were many of them, and satellite camps go on.
Speaker 4: Sorry do people shuffle around quietly looking stressed at this
Speaker 4: I've never been to anything like this before.
Speaker 3: Serious and contemplative. Yeah, and I'm looking at the clock.
Speaker 3: We need to take a break. There's more to say
Speaker 3: and I want to say. But my final note, the
Speaker 3: one weirdly encouraging thing about it is it's an extremely
Speaker 3: quote unquote popular place that people visit.
Speaker 2: Millions of people visit, which is good because.
Speaker 4: They want to peer into what humanity is capable of.
Speaker 3: And I think they walk away understanding a little bit
Speaker 3: more of how you don't play with this sort of
Speaker 3: thing because it'll go seriously wrong.
Speaker 4: And how interesting having had October seventh happen being reminded, Oh,
Speaker 4: people still can do that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, specifically to the jew.
Speaker 2: Let it know, we got Luigi.
Speaker 5: I really feel sorry for the for the family. I mean,
Speaker 5: everybody's fixating it on how good looking this guy looks.
Speaker 2: If he looked like Jonah Hiddle, no one would care.
Speaker 2: They'd already gave him him a chair, already be dead.
Speaker 4: Okay, But he actually killed a man, a.
Speaker 5: Man, a man with a family, you know, so the
Speaker 5: healthcare ceo. I mean, this is a real person, you know,
Speaker 5: but you also got a you know, sometimes drug dealers
Speaker 5: get shot.
Speaker 4: Chris Rock on Saturday Night Live, obviously that was controversial,
Speaker 4: although he went farther than a lot lot of people
Speaker 4: on that side of politics have gone in feeling bad
Speaker 4: about a actual human being, a father, husband being gunned
Speaker 4: down by a psychopath.
Speaker 2: Luigi has gotten a high profile lawyer.
Speaker 4: I guess because he got all the gofundmes out there
Speaker 4: and rich people who want to support his defense.
Speaker 2: Give me ninety one, Michael, he was brilliant his whole life.
Speaker 2: He comes from his great family.
Speaker 6: I mean something changed, right, significantly, something changed, and they're
Speaker 6: going to I think potentially have a not guilty by
Speaker 6: reason of insanity potential defense.
Speaker 4: I think that is not only a good way to
Speaker 4: avoid the worst kind of prison. Probably it might actually
Speaker 4: be true. He might have gone crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a gal who is on a panel
Speaker 3: on ABC and a high profile defense lawyer, and she
Speaker 3: got hired up by the family who apparently either liked
Speaker 3: the cut of her jib or saw on maybec or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 2: If I have.
Speaker 4: My act together as the murderous scumbag, like my brain's working,
Speaker 4: what I'm telling my lawyer is I'm guilty and there's
Speaker 4: no way you're going to be able to do anything
Speaker 4: about that. But keep me out of one of those
Speaker 4: horrible prisons where I'm like getting beaten to death by
Speaker 4: some horrible gang. You know that my concern So two
Speaker 4: interesting theories about what went to south with this this
Speaker 4: young man in his brain.
Speaker 2: Number One, we had a listener who's.
Speaker 3: Got some experience with this point out that what appeared
Speaker 3: to be a really serious spine injury often goes with
Speaker 3: traumatic brain injury that is, or is not always diagnosed properly,
Speaker 3: and mood changes and personality changes can go along with
Speaker 3: TBI who knows just a thought because he has a
Speaker 3: hell of a lot of screws in his spine for
Speaker 3: a young man of his age. Second thing, though, is
Speaker 3: Fox News was interviewing this Cornell law professor about how
Speaker 3: brutally anti corporate this young man appears to be with
Speaker 3: all of his Ivy League credentials, and he said, quote,
Speaker 3: it's fairly uniform in the Ivy League and others so
Speaker 3: called elite educational institutions that they skew extremely heavily to
Speaker 3: the left among the faculty. The Modern Democratic Party leans
Speaker 3: very heavily to the left, has a very strong anti American,
Speaker 3: anti capitalist wing to it. So not surprised me if
Speaker 3: somebody growing up and getting educated in that atmosphere became radicalized.
Speaker 3: Activism is now considered a vital part of the teaching
Speaker 3: for many professors, he said, they do not distinguish between
Speaker 3: their teaching and their activism. That most clearly manifests itself
Speaker 3: on the anti Israel front, but it's elsewhere too, on
Speaker 3: the anti capitalist front. If you're educating yourself in that atmosphere,
Speaker 3: I certainly could understand why someone would have hostile views
Speaker 3: towards a health insurance company.
Speaker 4: So he got radicalized, right, Yeah, so his whole spine injury,
Speaker 4: brain injury, or maybe win schizophrenic or whatever. That's all possible,
Speaker 4: of course. But there's also an awful lot of people
Speaker 4: that went to the same kind of colleges he went
Speaker 4: to who think it was a good idea that he
Speaker 4: killed this guy.
Speaker 3: So you remember that assistant to English professor her statement
Speaker 3: the other day that it was the best thing or
Speaker 3: it made her joyful or whatever the hell she said. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Penn has come out and said antrasetical to the values,
Speaker 3: not condoned, inappropriate, in offensive or offensive. So yeah, but
Speaker 3: it was the classic definition of a gaff, she said.
Speaker 3: The quiet part out loud. She accidentally got caught telling
Speaker 3: the truth.
Speaker 4: So far, there's been no copycat that we're aware of. Oh,
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Speaker 1: After eight suspected terrorists from Tajikistan were arrested in the
Speaker 1: United States, The men who investigators believe have ties to ISIS,
Speaker 1: crossed illegally at the US southern border. House Majority Leader
Speaker 1: Steve Scaliz blaming President Joe Biden's policies.
Speaker 4: How many more terrorists are in our country because Joe
Speaker 4: Biden opened up the southern border and Chinese intelligence agents.
Speaker 4: More on that in just a second. But this hour
Speaker 4: is going to be exciting. So Hunter's stripper Baby Mama
Speaker 4: has a book coming out. Joe Getty has excerpts from
Speaker 4: the book. That's exciting.
Speaker 2: Oh shocking excerpts. Jack.
Speaker 3: We will bear all when it comes to the sordid
Speaker 3: life of Hunter Biden.
Speaker 4: I want to talk about the insanity that luckily is
Speaker 4: making national news the subway in New York where they
Speaker 4: announced anybody who's a Zionist needs to get off the
Speaker 4: train now, and people chanting, what.
Speaker 3: The hell is going on? Did you say Berlin in
Speaker 3: nineteen thirty six?
Speaker 2: Now? It's crazy AnyWho.
Speaker 4: This story should be getting more intention Eight dudes with
Speaker 4: ties to isis arrested. Who would it would be actually
Speaker 4: better in a way if they had snuck across the
Speaker 4: border without encountering anybody. The fact that they did encounter
Speaker 4: border patrol and went through the process we currently have
Speaker 4: in place and still got into the country because they
Speaker 4: barely do anything when they encounter you. I mean, what
Speaker 4: is the They call it a vetting process.
Speaker 2: What is the vetting process?
Speaker 3: It's utterly insufficient, obviously, and so I think this is
Speaker 3: a useful screw up. It's so ugly and clearly unacceptable.
Speaker 3: It illustrates the fact that the border is so overwhelmed.
Speaker 3: The folks at the border are so overwhelmed. Any quote
Speaker 3: unquote vetting they're doing is is almost hilariously inadequate. We
Speaker 3: need serious change right now. I know if the vast
Speaker 3: majority of Americans agree with us as well on that.
Speaker 4: One of your terrorist experts was on some cable channel
Speaker 4: the other day talking about the terrorist attack we've mostly
Speaker 4: forgotten that happened in uh outside of Moscow at that concert.
Speaker 4: Remember watching the footage of that. They just ran through
Speaker 4: the building shooting people. Yeah, somebody could put something like
Speaker 4: that together in the United States.
Speaker 3: Hopeful they were Tajiks too, weren't they. I did that allegedly.
Speaker 4: I don't remember where they were from. But they did
Speaker 4: have the whole isis ties thing. And hopefully it'd be
Speaker 4: hard to get your hands on weapons, but I don't
Speaker 4: know that.
Speaker 2: It would be. Oh in the US.
Speaker 3: No, you just go down to it some you know,
Speaker 3: degenerate blue city and wave some cash in front of
Speaker 3: gang members and you'll have all the guns you want.
Speaker 4: Let's go a little more reporting on this before we talk.
Speaker 4: Just more from that same Fox report Michael sources.
Speaker 1: Say a majority of these suspected terrorists were found in
Speaker 1: New York, where a Democratic councilman says he's worried there
Speaker 1: could be another attack in the Big Apple.
Speaker 7: It's frightening and we're headed for another nine to eleven.
Speaker 7: I predicted that. I think we should have a secure border.
Speaker 7: We should know who's coming into our country. We don't.
Speaker 2: Notable.
Speaker 3: That's a democratic councilman. I think the problem has become
Speaker 3: so enormous and so unmistakable.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, look at the poll numbers.
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised to hear Democrats speaking out a little
Speaker 3: more forcefully because they hear their.
Speaker 2: Constituents howling for something to be done.
Speaker 4: I guess this happens. I was just thinking, there's been
Speaker 4: some examples in my life. I guess where there's a
Speaker 4: a problem clearly coming and.
Speaker 2: You know it, but you just don't want to deal
Speaker 2: with it now or.
Speaker 4: Seems too hard or something, and then it happens, and
Speaker 4: then you're like, yeah, probably should have dealt with that earlier.
Speaker 4: This is an extreme example of that. I mean, yeah, obviously,
Speaker 4: you can't just let hundreds of thousands of random men
Speaker 4: from the Middle East come across your border or China
Speaker 4: or wherever.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, exactly, And it's become so well known around
Speaker 3: the world. Anybody you want in the US just send
Speaker 3: them to the Mexican border and say, yeah, yeah, they're
Speaker 3: killing everybody in my village.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I need asylum.
Speaker 3: And whoever, whatever agent you want gets into the United
Speaker 3: States and back in the homeland, they're probably the various
Speaker 3: you know, war lords and ISIS leaders and Chinese intelligence
Speaker 3: chiefs are probably saying, wait.
Speaker 2: A minute, now, it can't be that easy. Stop it.
Speaker 2: No country behaves like that. You have to convince.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the US just letting in anybody who wants to
Speaker 2: come in. It's really shocking.
Speaker 4: Yes, how about some mainstream media coverage of it. This
Speaker 4: is NBC, which focuses on you know, maybe things have
Speaker 4: changed with that whole executive order that Joe Biden put
Speaker 4: through a week or so ago, and maybe, you know,
Speaker 4: they've closed the barn door.
Speaker 2: Finally, let's see new evidence.
Speaker 8: Migrants who cross the border illegally are still being released
Speaker 8: into the US by border agents. A senior DHS official
Speaker 8: tells NBC News those releases have dropped by more than half,
Speaker 8: but are still happening because agents don't have enough space
Speaker 8: to detain the large numbers of arriving migrants. An internal
Speaker 8: memo to border patrol agents in San Diego directs agents
Speaker 8: there to release migrants into the United States. Overall illegal
Speaker 8: border crossings under the new policy are still high, but
Speaker 8: have dropped from four thousand to three thousand per day.
Speaker 8: The record nearly ten million migrants entering the US since
Speaker 8: he took office. Wow, But the Border Patrol Union says
Speaker 8: the president's new action is it's not tough enough.
Speaker 2: That's NBC News, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: The idea that you could come apply to be somewhere
Speaker 3: and you get to stay there as your probably phony
Speaker 3: application is being assessed over the course of years and years.
Speaker 3: It's very odd that practice, like showing up to buy
Speaker 3: somebody's house and saying, by the way, I'm living here now, well,
Speaker 3: you decide on my offer, I get to live here,
Speaker 3: and if you throw me out, you're the bad guy.
Speaker 2: It's just well again, it's insane. Remember we had the.
Speaker 4: Polling like a week ago that a majority of Americans
Speaker 4: now favor a wall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the majority of Americans, including independence in a
Speaker 3: substantial chunk, was that forty percent of Democrats are in
Speaker 3: favor of deporting all illegal aliens. It is overwhelmingly popular.
Speaker 3: Which if you just if you want to say, if
Speaker 3: we took calls day, I'm strugging to getty.
Speaker 2: You know, I think Joe Biden is just a. He
Speaker 2: doesn't lead at all. He's just a prostitute to whatever
Speaker 2: is his voters wanted to. He has no principles, He's
Speaker 2: just yeah.
Speaker 3: But his voters want him to kick all these people
Speaker 3: out of the country and secure the border.
Speaker 2: What are they doing?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, The wording from that CBS poll was, would you
Speaker 4: be in favor of deporting all undocumented immigrants?
Speaker 2: Which has never.
Speaker 4: Been on the table, will never be on the table,
Speaker 4: It would be undoable even if they passed it. And
Speaker 4: yet nearly two thirds of Americans said, yeah, I'd be
Speaker 4: all for that. How do you not read that in
Speaker 4: the White House and think, oh, we are so far
Speaker 4: to the left of America on this, no wonder.
Speaker 2: We're losing by thirty.
Speaker 4: To fifty points depending on the question on this issue,
Speaker 4: and yet they're tied.
Speaker 2: Yet overall they're tied.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, that's discouraging. I hate to end on a
Speaker 3: discouraging note. You know, here's a tangent in the mood
Speaker 3: for a tangent. I was thinking about this, and it's
Speaker 3: this may be a poor example now because of what
Speaker 3: I was just saying about the overwhelming support among Americans
Speaker 3: for closing the border and having seen immigration policies. But
Speaker 3: like in the early days of the Biden administration, when
Speaker 3: just undoing anything Trump did seemed like the right thing
Speaker 3: to do, I don't what am I driving at.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: There's way too much representation and too little leadership in
Speaker 3: a lot of government. In other words, just fulfilling the
Speaker 3: whims of this constituency or that constituency, whether it's a
Speaker 3: good idea or not, in a way that you wouldn't
Speaker 3: have done in the old days, because you wouldn't have
Speaker 3: known about those temporary whims of a constituency. Because communication
Speaker 3: is so fast and easy now, you can have you know,
Speaker 3: sixty jackasses in your district mad about a good policy
Speaker 3: because they don't understand it, and you'd be completely swayed
Speaker 3: by that as a congress person. And I'm looking to
Speaker 3: our own industry, and you see it reflected in various
Speaker 3: websites and news channels and stuff like that. They have
Speaker 3: the ability now to track second by second when people
Speaker 3: tune in, when they tune out what you're doing, when
Speaker 3: they tune out what you're doing, when they're staying tuned.
Speaker 3: It's in radio two, but we ignore it for various reasons.
Speaker 3: But you become this like you're being jerked on a chain,
Speaker 3: serving the momentary whims of the audience in a way
Speaker 3: that seems like good business at first, but then it's
Speaker 3: to me, it's like shoveling in sugar. That first bite
Speaker 3: sounds great, tastes great, and all, but you just keep
Speaker 3: shoveling it in until you're sick.
Speaker 2: It's a it's how do I explain this?
Speaker 3: Being in Congress has always been a balance between being
Speaker 3: a leader and being a representative. And if your constituents
Speaker 3: wants something loathsome stupid and unconstitutional, that's when you've got
Speaker 3: to be a leader. And I just I think we've
Speaker 3: got too much representative and not enough leader in our politics.
Speaker 4: I think that's pretty clear, some of which has to
Speaker 4: do with the small donor fundraising.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, oh yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 4: Of course, big donor fundraising would reward leadership. Small donor
Speaker 4: fundraising rewards you doing what I yelled about right right.
Speaker 3: Literally, it can be a ten minute like political cycle.
Speaker 2: This is a news story.
Speaker 3: We're all fired up, I send you twenty five bucks
Speaker 3: and then everybody forgets about it ten minutes later.
Speaker 2: But I've raised three million dollars.
Speaker 4: And the AOC's and the Marjorie Taylor Greens understand that
Speaker 4: better than anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Armstrong and Getty show, Yeah, or Jack or
Speaker 1: show podcasts and our hot links.
Speaker 2: Why is it so cold with dear Michael?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I had turned it up and then
Speaker 5: the air condition turned itself back on.
Speaker 2: It's punishment.
Speaker 4: I guess it's punishment for what I did to that
Speaker 4: we did to deserve this. But it's like fifty eight
Speaker 4: degrees in here being treated like North Korean dissidents. Huh,
Speaker 4: what's up with that? Speaking of North Korea, woke up
Speaker 4: to see that Putin and North Koreas signed a pact.
Speaker 2: They now have a packed to come to.
Speaker 4: Each other's defense if they are attacked by I guess
Speaker 4: they're implying us well. And it's full of what delights
Speaker 4: me in spite of the horror of the thing. I
Speaker 4: am always amused by the stilted, grandiose language that comes
Speaker 4: out of every pronouncement from North Korea. The permanent friendship
Speaker 4: built of solid granite between our two gargantuan peoples.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just always that inflated rhetoric. I'll find
Speaker 3: the specifics for you.
Speaker 4: But it's just that's pretty good, ridiculous, solid, gargantuan peoples.
Speaker 3: They are pledged an everlasting friendship and on wavering support.
Speaker 3: I do agreement would form the backbone of the countries.
Speaker 2: BA right, oh here it is.
Speaker 3: I am confident that during this visit the ardent friendship
Speaker 3: between the two countries will be strengthling.
Speaker 2: Like I'm on a list, all right.
Speaker 4: I don't get the crowd that doesn't think we need
Speaker 4: to engage these people. Russia and China and North Korea
Speaker 4: and Iran are intertwined in more ways than they've ever been.
Speaker 4: Iran's providing weapons to Russia. Russia's providing stuff to Iran.
Speaker 4: It's shown up in fighting Israel and Ukraine and all
Speaker 4: over the place.
Speaker 2: In China.
Speaker 4: Of course, we know what China is and they're all
Speaker 4: working together, and it's terrible.
Speaker 2: It's terrible for the world. This is a major world moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is. I think the isolation is crowded.
Speaker 3: Neo isolationists would say, well, they're just doing that because
Speaker 3: the US has pressured them. They form a eard kind
Speaker 3: of alliance with the self hating liberal. They believe that
Speaker 3: all evil that befalls the world that has anything to
Speaker 3: do with the United States is the fault of the
Speaker 3: United State. Well, I spent a decent chunk of my
Speaker 3: adulthood as a near isolationist, so it's not like I'm
Speaker 3: completely out of touch with that thinking.
Speaker 2: I do think I was wrong at this point. It
Speaker 2: would be wonderful if isolationism worked. That would be great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Oh, you don't have to get involved in everything.
Speaker 4: That's certainly true. And we've gotten involved in things we
Speaker 4: didn't need to get involved in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that's absolutely true.
Speaker 3: And like most things in life, the extreme points of
Speaker 3: view are very simple and easy to understand, and so
Speaker 3: people like them. And the truth in foreign policy, like
Speaker 3: in life, is that, no, it's going to be a
Speaker 3: bunch of difficult judgments, and so many of them are
Speaker 3: going to be like right on the margin. You're just
Speaker 3: not sure. But the idea that you can just isolate yourself,
Speaker 3: especially in the new global instantaneous communication, practically instantaneous weaponry world,
Speaker 3: it's just not true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I.
Speaker 4: Mentioned yesterday, you weren't here on Friday when we talked
Speaker 4: to Josh Rogan and his article in the Washington Post,
Speaker 4: US military plans a hellscape to deter China. And it's
Speaker 4: pretty damned interesting. But we're taking it super seriously as
Speaker 4: we should. That China is going to move on Taiwan
Speaker 4: at some point, and it could happen. I don't think
Speaker 4: there's any stopping it. Actually, there's a quote from Trump
Speaker 4: where Trump said, oh, in the latest interview with Time magazine,
Speaker 4: when he asked if we would defend Taiwan, he said
Speaker 4: it would depend on the circumstances. President Trump once told
Speaker 4: a GOP senator in a closed meeting that there isn't
Speaker 4: a blanking thing we can do about it. If China
Speaker 4: decides to take Taiwan. I think that's close to right.
Speaker 4: It's gonna happen in like an hour. I mean someday.
Speaker 4: All these military exercises they have like the other day
Speaker 4: where they got the whole island surrounded with ships and
Speaker 4: planes and everything like that, what if they actually do
Speaker 4: it for real?
Speaker 2: How would we stop that? Yeah, it might not even
Speaker 2: be an attack, it would just be a siege.
Speaker 4: But anyway, the healthscape idea is we got gazillions of
Speaker 4: unmanned submarines and flying drones and all kinds of stuff
Speaker 4: that we would unleash on them instantly to try to
Speaker 4: slow them down to buy us some time, because our
Speaker 4: Pentagon knows that they're gonna be able to do this
Speaker 4: in like an, you know, fifteen minutes if they decided
Speaker 4: to do it, So we got to move super duper fast.
Speaker 4: So we got the hellscape that is the drone attack,
Speaker 4: and then that buys us of the time plugged.
Speaker 2: The zone with some drones. It's a zone drone well exactly,
Speaker 2: good luck.
Speaker 3: But I read Josh's piece at your recommendation and thought, wow,
Speaker 3: that is really intriguing, and I'm.
Speaker 2: Not sure I'm buying right. Well, I have to say the.
Speaker 3: Incredible interconnection of virtually all of the economies, No, that's
Speaker 3: not true. I mean North Korean rush, aren't that interduce? Anyway?
Speaker 3: Economic intertwining is what's holding China back at this point.
Speaker 3: And it would not be an easy military victory over Taiwan,
Speaker 3: not by any stretch of the imagination. Whether it could
Speaker 3: be turned back is a different question. It would probably
Speaker 3: be really quagmiriy.
Speaker 4: So I'm going through the America's Cold Wars of David sangerbook,
Speaker 4: and he has got a long piece in there about
Speaker 4: the relationship between Russian and China through the years, and
Speaker 4: Stalin was somewhat shocked at one point when Mao, who chairman,
Speaker 4: she idolizes and wants to be the new Mao. Mao
Speaker 4: told Stalin, I'm perfectly fine with losing one hundred million
Speaker 4: people if I have to defeat the United States a
Speaker 4: hundred million.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now, I don't know if she's close to that number,
Speaker 4: but if he was a fraction of it, if he's
Speaker 4: only willing to lose a million men, we don't have
Speaker 4: that kind of appetite. Nothing within a thousand miles.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no.
Speaker 3: And that's one of the great weaknesses we have as
Speaker 3: Americans is we think everybody thinks like us. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: because we're isolated by a couple of oceans. But I've
Speaker 3: mentioned this before. In Maine, kompf har Hitler mentions that
Speaker 3: if you're going to be one of the great men
Speaker 3: of history, you have to be willing to sacrifice the
Speaker 3: tens of thousands at any moment, and if you don't
Speaker 3: have the gall for that, you're not going to be
Speaker 3: a great man of history.
Speaker 2: Well that's rough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, healthscape, can we do we actually have a hellscape
Speaker 4: ready to go?
Speaker 2: Well, that's a secret. I hope we do.
Speaker 4: I hope we have a healthscape of drones, submarine drones,
Speaker 4: submarine drones and air drones at the same time, very
Speaker 4: exciting flood to zone. We need those Chinese, We need
Speaker 4: those Chinese dogs. I've seen the robot dogs with the
Speaker 4: machine gun on their back.
Speaker 2: A swim.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it wouldn't help mechanize dog paddle, right,
Speaker 4: it still looks scary you. If I see one of
Speaker 4: those Chinese metal dogs running at me with a machine gun,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna lose my mud.
Speaker 2: As they said in the Civil War, Armstrong and Getty