WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Monday Hour Three

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Ketty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Jettie and Pee.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Gutty so I, Joe, Eddy and my bride Judy.

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<v Speaker 2>After many, many, many.

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<v Speaker 3>Years of talking about doing this, finally made our big

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<v Speaker 3>trip to Europe. Part of the problem is just Jack

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<v Speaker 3>and I rarely take two weeks in a row off,

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<v Speaker 3>and by the time you spend you know, unless you

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<v Speaker 3>live like in a major international airport on the east

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<v Speaker 3>coast city, it takes a while to get there and

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<v Speaker 3>then it takes a while to get back, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to build a couple of days on each

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<v Speaker 3>and blah blah blah. And so we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 3>this for years. We finally did it. We went and

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<v Speaker 3>took one of those river cruises in this specifically in

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<v Speaker 3>the southern Germany, Bavaria, Austria, Little.

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<v Speaker 2>Hungary, that sort of thing. Slovakia too interesting. There's one

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<v Speaker 2>river that goes through all those places, the Danube. As

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, yes, yeah, and it was. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>It was great, except that the week before we got

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<v Speaker 3>in there, there was a huge snowfall and then heavy,

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<v Speaker 3>heavy rains right around when we were getting there, And

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<v Speaker 3>anybody who lives near rivers knows there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>days that everything's flowing into those rivers. Long story short,

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<v Speaker 3>the rivers got so high and we're running so swiftly

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<v Speaker 3>they closed all the locks, and two and a half

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<v Speaker 3>days and two nights before we were supposed to do

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<v Speaker 3>they booted us off the boat and said we can't

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<v Speaker 3>be on the river anymore, which was such a bummer

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<v Speaker 3>because I was absolutely loving it, not just the life

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<v Speaker 3>on the boat and the people and the food and

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<v Speaker 3>the drink, and then watching the world go by from

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<v Speaker 3>the top deck, even though it was cold. I was

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<v Speaker 3>up there, bundled up, watching the little villages go by,

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<v Speaker 3>loving it so much.

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<v Speaker 4>So do you sleep on the boat or you stop

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<v Speaker 4>in towns and state hotels?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that you have lovely cabins on the boat. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>did you sleep in and a big boat?

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<v Speaker 4>Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it is, yeah, although it's not a it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a big big boat. I think there were a hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and thirty two people on it, and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a fairly high dollar thing to do. But again, we've

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<v Speaker 3>been putting it off for decades. But great cruise company

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<v Speaker 3>that's not paying for air time, so I won't mention them.

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<v Speaker 3>But they since they had to boot us off the boat,

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<v Speaker 3>they hastily arranged some other stuff to do and a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of extra nights in Muniche.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the airlines give you a free drink ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly. You can sleep on shore if you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Those trees over there will probably give you some shelter.

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<v Speaker 3>But so we had already committed to spend two nights

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<v Speaker 3>in Munich, and we ended up with four nights in Munich, Germany,

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<v Speaker 3>which was absolutely I mean, as things go, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have a curveball thrown at you, that's a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good result. And we just loved being in Munich.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a cool city. It's tons and tons of history, food, drink,

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. And I want to get to Munich,

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<v Speaker 3>specifically in a couple of brown Oh are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of stray notes before I get into the

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<v Speaker 3>important stuff. In Vienna, Austria, which we spent several nights

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<v Speaker 3>in at the beginning of the trip.

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<v Speaker 2>I ate so much Wiener Schnitzel.

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<v Speaker 3>I ate it like night number one and thought, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the best thing I've ever had. I am going

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<v Speaker 3>to compare and contrast the Vener's Schnitzel.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere we go. So I got heavily into vener Schnenzel.

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<v Speaker 2>So good. Now, what is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Roughly, just briefly, Well, it's like a pressed down veal,

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<v Speaker 3>usually breaded with some super delicious potatoes and then cranberry

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<v Speaker 3>like preserves that you have with it. And you combine

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<v Speaker 3>the bread and meat with the potatoes with the cranberry,

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<v Speaker 3>and you eat it all at once, and it's proof

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<v Speaker 3>that God loves us and wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Us to be happy.

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<v Speaker 4>But we don't eat it in America. I saw you

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<v Speaker 4>the picture you sent us. I thought, why isn't this

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<v Speaker 4>a more common thing in the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to go to a German restaurant that's really

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<v Speaker 3>the only people to serve it. But I fell in

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<v Speaker 3>love with it. Second stray note Google Tran. I've said

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<v Speaker 3>Google is evil many many times as a corporation. They

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<v Speaker 3>remind me of how some Muslims view the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>They call us the great Satan. They don't mean the

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<v Speaker 3>great evil, they mean the great temp tour with the

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<v Speaker 3>pleasures of the flesh. And materialism and porn and the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of it. Google's the great temp tour. It offers

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<v Speaker 3>you these incredible tools and then steals all your data, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, give them the choice between having Satan

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<v Speaker 3>steal my soul and Google steal my data. You can

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<v Speaker 3>have my data. But they're the great Satan in that way.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of their temptations is Google Translate.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so amazing. I hadn't even thought of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember my story.

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<v Speaker 4>I used that with the maid when the guy disappeared

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<v Speaker 4>in my neighborhood a while back, and I was so

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<v Speaker 4>amazed by it. But when I went to Russia that

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<v Speaker 4>was pre iPhone. Now would have changed everything on thatsblutely

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<v Speaker 4>if I could have gotten around with Google Translate.

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<v Speaker 3>So not only can you type in a phrase and

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<v Speaker 3>get it translated, you can use the microphone and it

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<v Speaker 3>translates on the fly, or you can take a picture

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<v Speaker 3>of a sign and it'll tell you what the science says.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta be fantastic. Oh, and I was so geeking out

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<v Speaker 2>on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I studied German for years and years, but it's a

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<v Speaker 3>hard language and that was years ago, so it was

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<v Speaker 3>so much fun to think, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I know what that means in verify it.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you'd come across a slogan for a Schnitzel company

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<v Speaker 3>and you'd think I could translate it in German, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, what the hell does that actually mean?

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, I geeked out on Google Translate that would

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<v Speaker 3>be so handy.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. It was just fun. So anyway, that.

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<v Speaker 3>Third stray note when we had to get booted off

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<v Speaker 3>the boat because all the locks had closed and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 3>I spent seven and a half hours of Christmas Day

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<v Speaker 3>on a bus, which was just not that great, going

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<v Speaker 3>from Bratislava in Slovakia, which is a great old historic

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<v Speaker 3>city to Saltzburg, Mozart's hometown, which was it was a

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting day, but it was like five hours to

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<v Speaker 3>get there, and then after spending half of the day

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<v Speaker 3>in Salzburg, then it was time to start our stint

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<v Speaker 3>in Munich, which was another two and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Although oh that brings to mind.

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<v Speaker 3>It was my first experience on the autobon the Audubon famously,

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<v Speaker 3>where there is no speed limit, but the Germans are

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly disciplined drivers.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody follows the damned law.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you want to pass, you move to the left,

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<v Speaker 3>you pass, you immediately get.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the right immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw maybe one exception to that in miles and

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<v Speaker 3>hours and hours and hours of travel.

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<v Speaker 2>It admires the discipline of the Germans. Oh, I absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you sound a little like Trump?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>I will tell I will tell you this.

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<v Speaker 3>On the way to the airport, our our on the

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<v Speaker 3>autobon our taxi driver, taxi, it was like a really

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<v Speaker 3>nice Mercedes. But our driver to the airport hit one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and five mile proper awesome on the autobobo. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Nice cars, it's nothing to go that fast. So I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know why we can't do it in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>But do you think they follow the laws so strictly?

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<v Speaker 4>Are the penalties just so strict or is it just

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<v Speaker 4>a cultural thing? We follow the rules?

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<v Speaker 3>Ding ding Ding, which brings me to section two of

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<v Speaker 3>our talk. Munich is the birthplace of the Nazi movement,

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<v Speaker 3>the National Socialists as they refer to them in in Germany.

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<v Speaker 3>And is everybody that's correct, Michael, In all of the

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<v Speaker 3>years of you playing that clip, finally it's appropriate. And

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<v Speaker 3>I Joe have long been an avid student to the

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<v Speaker 3>point of near obsession of the rise and follow the

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<v Speaker 3>Third Reich, partly because I studied German language and culture

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<v Speaker 3>and history, and also because I am apparently unendingly fascinated

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<v Speaker 3>by the idea of a dopey little political part started

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<v Speaker 3>by a bunch of losers and misfits gaining the reins

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<v Speaker 3>of a modern large nation and then leading to the

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<v Speaker 3>greatest conflagration known to man and the slaughter of millions

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<v Speaker 3>and millions and millions of innocent people. How does that

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<v Speaker 3>happen among Homo sapiens is one of my greatest fascinations.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there I was in Munich, at the birthplace

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<v Speaker 3>of the Nazi movement. In a couple of things we did,

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<v Speaker 3>and God bless my bride. I am so lucky to

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<v Speaker 3>be married to the best friend I'll ever have, and

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<v Speaker 3>she knows how I am about that. So she said, yeah, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this is your party. If you want to do that,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do that. And so in between the gigantic steins

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<v Speaker 3>of dark beer and the Wiener Schnitzel and the window

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<v Speaker 3>shopping and history and that sort of thing, I geeked

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<v Speaker 3>out on the whole Nazi history. They have the National

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<v Speaker 3>Socialist Documentation Center. It's a four story museum of the

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<v Speaker 3>rise in the fall of the Third Reich, with contemporary

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<v Speaker 3>news articles, post speech, is video everything, it's how it happened.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's part of their laying on their backs, showing

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<v Speaker 4>their belly. They're embarrassed by a thing that they've been

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<v Speaker 4>doing for years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, I wouldn't put it exactly that way, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's close enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they the German people not only went along with,

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<v Speaker 3>but a lot of them went along with very enthusiastically

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<v Speaker 3>the Nazi movement, which led to all those millions of

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<v Speaker 3>dad And you could certainly argue the rise of the

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<v Speaker 3>Soviet Union really in the second half of the twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 3>but and the Iron Curtain and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, it's it's atonement. But that center, if

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<v Speaker 3>you ever get a chance to go to it, is

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<v Speaker 3>just amazing in that it fleshes it out. How do

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<v Speaker 3>you go from unknown, destitute, former corporal in the military

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<v Speaker 3>to fere with the power to kill millions and millions

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<v Speaker 3>of people. It fleshes that out. And the second thing

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<v Speaker 3>we did, and if you have any questions, shack free

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<v Speaker 3>to jump.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump showing us according to The New York Times, Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, what now?

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is showing us how you do that? According to

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not exactly, although there are elements of it that

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<v Speaker 3>are similar, wildly overblown in this case, but similar, And

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<v Speaker 3>I want to get to that. But the second thing

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<v Speaker 3>we did was we went to the doc Out concentration camp,

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<v Speaker 3>which was an unspeakably horrific place of death and torture

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<v Speaker 3>and misery and starvation and disease and levels of cruelty

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<v Speaker 3>that are worth contemplating if you're the sort of person

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<v Speaker 3>who can it's. It's it's a fascinating experience to tour

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<v Speaker 3>it and read all of it. It is a miserable experience.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's heartbreaking and disturbing, and you know, I could

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<v Speaker 3>go on and on about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't. Two people, but the Dacout model was exported

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<v Speaker 2>to all of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of concentration camps

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<v Speaker 3>we all know about the famous ones.

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<v Speaker 2>There were many of them, and satellite camps go on.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry do people shuffle around quietly looking stressed at this

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been to anything like this before.

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<v Speaker 3>Serious and contemplative. Yeah, and I'm looking at the clock.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to take a break. There's more to say

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to say. But my final note, the

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<v Speaker 3>one weirdly encouraging thing about it is it's an extremely

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote popular place that people visit.

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<v Speaker 2>Millions of people visit, which is good because.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to peer into what humanity is capable of.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think they walk away understanding a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more of how you don't play with this sort of

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<v Speaker 3>thing because it'll go seriously wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>And how interesting having had October seventh happen being reminded, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>people still can do that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, specifically to the jew.

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<v Speaker 2>Let it know, we got Luigi.

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<v Speaker 5>I really feel sorry for the for the family. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody's fixating it on how good looking this guy looks.

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<v Speaker 2>If he looked like Jonah Hiddle, no one would care.

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<v Speaker 2>They'd already gave him him a chair, already be dead.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, But he actually killed a man, a.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, a man with a family, you know, so the

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<v Speaker 5>healthcare ceo. I mean, this is a real person, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>but you also got a you know, sometimes drug dealers

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<v Speaker 5>get shot.

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Rock on Saturday Night Live, obviously that was controversial,

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<v Speaker 4>although he went farther than a lot lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>on that side of politics have gone in feeling bad

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<v Speaker 4>about a actual human being, a father, husband being gunned

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<v Speaker 4>down by a psychopath.

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<v Speaker 2>Luigi has gotten a high profile lawyer.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess because he got all the gofundmes out there

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<v Speaker 4>and rich people who want to support his defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me ninety one, Michael, he was brilliant his whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>He comes from his great family.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean something changed, right, significantly, something changed, and they're

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<v Speaker 6>going to I think potentially have a not guilty by

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<v Speaker 6>reason of insanity potential defense.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that is not only a good way to

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<v Speaker 4>avoid the worst kind of prison. Probably it might actually

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<v Speaker 4>be true. He might have gone crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a gal who is on a panel

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<v Speaker 3>on ABC and a high profile defense lawyer, and she

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<v Speaker 3>got hired up by the family who apparently either liked

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<v Speaker 3>the cut of her jib or saw on maybec or

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<v Speaker 3>something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>If I have.

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<v Speaker 4>My act together as the murderous scumbag, like my brain's working,

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm telling my lawyer is I'm guilty and there's

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<v Speaker 4>no way you're going to be able to do anything

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<v Speaker 4>about that. But keep me out of one of those

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<v Speaker 4>horrible prisons where I'm like getting beaten to death by

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<v Speaker 4>some horrible gang. You know that my concern So two

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<v Speaker 4>interesting theories about what went to south with this this

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<v Speaker 4>young man in his brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Number One, we had a listener who's.

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<v Speaker 3>Got some experience with this point out that what appeared

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<v Speaker 3>to be a really serious spine injury often goes with

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<v Speaker 3>traumatic brain injury that is, or is not always diagnosed properly,

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<v Speaker 3>and mood changes and personality changes can go along with

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<v Speaker 3>TBI who knows just a thought because he has a

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<v Speaker 3>hell of a lot of screws in his spine for

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<v Speaker 3>a young man of his age. Second thing, though, is

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<v Speaker 3>Fox News was interviewing this Cornell law professor about how

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<v Speaker 3>brutally anti corporate this young man appears to be with

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<v Speaker 3>all of his Ivy League credentials, and he said, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>it's fairly uniform in the Ivy League and others so

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<v Speaker 3>called elite educational institutions that they skew extremely heavily to

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<v Speaker 3>the left among the faculty. The Modern Democratic Party leans

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<v Speaker 3>very heavily to the left, has a very strong anti American,

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<v Speaker 3>anti capitalist wing to it. So not surprised me if

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<v Speaker 3>somebody growing up and getting educated in that atmosphere became radicalized.

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<v Speaker 3>Activism is now considered a vital part of the teaching

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<v Speaker 3>for many professors, he said, they do not distinguish between

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<v Speaker 3>their teaching and their activism. That most clearly manifests itself

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<v Speaker 3>on the anti Israel front, but it's elsewhere too, on

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<v Speaker 3>the anti capitalist front. If you're educating yourself in that atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 3>I certainly could understand why someone would have hostile views

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<v Speaker 3>towards a health insurance company.

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<v Speaker 4>So he got radicalized, right, Yeah, so his whole spine injury,

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<v Speaker 4>brain injury, or maybe win schizophrenic or whatever. That's all possible,

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<v Speaker 4>of course. But there's also an awful lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>that went to the same kind of colleges he went

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<v Speaker 4>to who think it was a good idea that he

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<v Speaker 4>killed this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So you remember that assistant to English professor her statement

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<v Speaker 3>the other day that it was the best thing or

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<v Speaker 3>it made her joyful or whatever the hell she said. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Penn has come out and said antrasetical to the values,

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<v Speaker 3>not condoned, inappropriate, in offensive or offensive. So yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was the classic definition of a gaff, she said.

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<v Speaker 3>The quiet part out loud. She accidentally got caught telling

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<v Speaker 3>the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>So far, there's been no copycat that we're aware of. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>After eight suspected terrorists from Tajikistan were arrested in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, The men who investigators believe have ties to ISIS,

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<v Speaker 1>crossed illegally at the US southern border. House Majority Leader

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Scaliz blaming President Joe Biden's policies.

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<v Speaker 4>How many more terrorists are in our country because Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Biden opened up the southern border and Chinese intelligence agents.

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<v Speaker 4>More on that in just a second. But this hour

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be exciting. So Hunter's stripper Baby Mama

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<v Speaker 4>has a book coming out. Joe Getty has excerpts from

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<v Speaker 4>the book. That's exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shocking excerpts. Jack.

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<v Speaker 3>We will bear all when it comes to the sordid

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<v Speaker 3>life of Hunter Biden.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to talk about the insanity that luckily is

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<v Speaker 4>making national news the subway in New York where they

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<v Speaker 4>announced anybody who's a Zionist needs to get off the

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<v Speaker 4>train now, and people chanting, what.

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<v Speaker 3>The hell is going on? Did you say Berlin in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen thirty six?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? It's crazy AnyWho.

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<v Speaker 4>This story should be getting more intention Eight dudes with

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<v Speaker 4>ties to isis arrested. Who would it would be actually

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<v Speaker 4>better in a way if they had snuck across the

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<v Speaker 4>border without encountering anybody. The fact that they did encounter

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<v Speaker 4>border patrol and went through the process we currently have

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<v Speaker 4>in place and still got into the country because they

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<v Speaker 4>barely do anything when they encounter you. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 4>is the They call it a vetting process.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the vetting process?

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<v Speaker 3>It's utterly insufficient, obviously, and so I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>a useful screw up. It's so ugly and clearly unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 3>It illustrates the fact that the border is so overwhelmed.

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<v Speaker 3>The folks at the border are so overwhelmed. Any quote

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<v Speaker 3>unquote vetting they're doing is is almost hilariously inadequate. We

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<v Speaker 3>need serious change right now. I know if the vast

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<v Speaker 3>majority of Americans agree with us as well on that.

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<v Speaker 4>One of your terrorist experts was on some cable channel

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<v Speaker 4>the other day talking about the terrorist attack we've mostly

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<v Speaker 4>forgotten that happened in uh outside of Moscow at that concert.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember watching the footage of that. They just ran through

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<v Speaker 4>the building shooting people. Yeah, somebody could put something like

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<v Speaker 4>that together in the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopeful they were Tajiks too, weren't they. I did that allegedly.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember where they were from. But they did

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<v Speaker 4>have the whole isis ties thing. And hopefully it'd be

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<v Speaker 4>hard to get your hands on weapons, but I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know that.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be. Oh in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you just go down to it some you know,

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<v Speaker 3>degenerate blue city and wave some cash in front of

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<v Speaker 3>gang members and you'll have all the guns you want.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go a little more reporting on this before we talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Just more from that same Fox report Michael sources.

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<v Speaker 1>Say a majority of these suspected terrorists were found in

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<v Speaker 1>New York, where a Democratic councilman says he's worried there

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<v Speaker 1>could be another attack in the Big Apple.

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<v Speaker 7>It's frightening and we're headed for another nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 7>I predicted that. I think we should have a secure border.

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<v Speaker 7>We should know who's coming into our country. We don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Notable.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a democratic councilman. I think the problem has become

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<v Speaker 3>so enormous and so unmistakable.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, look at the poll numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not surprised to hear Democrats speaking out a little

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<v Speaker 3>more forcefully because they hear their.

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<v Speaker 2>Constituents howling for something to be done.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess this happens. I was just thinking, there's been

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<v Speaker 4>some examples in my life. I guess where there's a

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<v Speaker 4>a problem clearly coming and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it, but you just don't want to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with it now or.

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<v Speaker 4>Seems too hard or something, and then it happens, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you're like, yeah, probably should have dealt with that earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>This is an extreme example of that. I mean, yeah, obviously,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't just let hundreds of thousands of random men

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<v Speaker 4>from the Middle East come across your border or China

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<v Speaker 4>or wherever.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, exactly, And it's become so well known around

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<v Speaker 3>the world. Anybody you want in the US just send

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<v Speaker 3>them to the Mexican border and say, yeah, yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 3>killing everybody in my village.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I need asylum.

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<v Speaker 3>And whoever, whatever agent you want gets into the United

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<v Speaker 3>States and back in the homeland, they're probably the various

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<v Speaker 3>you know, war lords and ISIS leaders and Chinese intelligence

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<v Speaker 3>chiefs are probably saying, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>A minute, now, it can't be that easy. Stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>No country behaves like that. You have to convince.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the US just letting in anybody who wants to

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<v Speaker 2>come in. It's really shocking.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, how about some mainstream media coverage of it. This

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<v Speaker 4>is NBC, which focuses on you know, maybe things have

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<v Speaker 4>changed with that whole executive order that Joe Biden put

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<v Speaker 4>through a week or so ago, and maybe, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they've closed the barn door.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally, let's see new evidence.

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<v Speaker 8>Migrants who cross the border illegally are still being released

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<v Speaker 8>into the US by border agents. A senior DHS official

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<v Speaker 8>tells NBC News those releases have dropped by more than half,

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<v Speaker 8>but are still happening because agents don't have enough space

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<v Speaker 8>to detain the large numbers of arriving migrants. An internal

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<v Speaker 8>memo to border patrol agents in San Diego directs agents

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<v Speaker 8>there to release migrants into the United States. Overall illegal

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<v Speaker 8>border crossings under the new policy are still high, but

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<v Speaker 8>have dropped from four thousand to three thousand per day.

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<v Speaker 8>The record nearly ten million migrants entering the US since

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<v Speaker 8>he took office. Wow, But the Border Patrol Union says

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<v Speaker 8>the president's new action is it's not tough enough.

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<v Speaker 2>That's NBC News, ladies and gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea that you could come apply to be somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>and you get to stay there as your probably phony

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<v Speaker 3>application is being assessed over the course of years and years.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very odd that practice, like showing up to buy

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's house and saying, by the way, I'm living here now, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you decide on my offer, I get to live here,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you throw me out, you're the bad guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just well again, it's insane. Remember we had the.

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<v Speaker 4>Polling like a week ago that a majority of Americans

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<v Speaker 4>now favor a wall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and the majority of Americans, including independence in a

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<v Speaker 3>substantial chunk, was that forty percent of Democrats are in

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<v Speaker 3>favor of deporting all illegal aliens. It is overwhelmingly popular.

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<v Speaker 3>Which if you just if you want to say, if

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<v Speaker 3>we took calls day, I'm strugging to getty.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think Joe Biden is just a. He

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't lead at all. He's just a prostitute to whatever

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<v Speaker 2>is his voters wanted to. He has no principles, He's

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<v Speaker 2>just yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But his voters want him to kick all these people

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<v Speaker 3>out of the country and secure the border.

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<v Speaker 2>What are they doing?

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<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, The wording from that CBS poll was, would you

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<v Speaker 4>be in favor of deporting all undocumented immigrants?

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<v Speaker 2>Which has never.

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<v Speaker 4>Been on the table, will never be on the table,

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<v Speaker 4>It would be undoable even if they passed it. And

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<v Speaker 4>yet nearly two thirds of Americans said, yeah, I'd be

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<v Speaker 4>all for that. How do you not read that in

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<v Speaker 4>the White House and think, oh, we are so far

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<v Speaker 4>to the left of America on this, no wonder.

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<v Speaker 2>We're losing by thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>To fifty points depending on the question on this issue,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet they're tied.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet overall they're tied.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh, that's discouraging. I hate to end on a

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<v Speaker 3>discouraging note. You know, here's a tangent in the mood

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<v Speaker 3>for a tangent. I was thinking about this, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>this may be a poor example now because of what

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<v Speaker 3>I was just saying about the overwhelming support among Americans

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<v Speaker 3>for closing the border and having seen immigration policies. But

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<v Speaker 3>like in the early days of the Biden administration, when

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<v Speaker 3>just undoing anything Trump did seemed like the right thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do, I don't what am I driving at.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>There's way too much representation and too little leadership in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of government. In other words, just fulfilling the

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<v Speaker 3>whims of this constituency or that constituency, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 3>good idea or not, in a way that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>have done in the old days, because you wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>known about those temporary whims of a constituency. Because communication

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<v Speaker 3>is so fast and easy now, you can have you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sixty jackasses in your district mad about a good policy

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<v Speaker 3>because they don't understand it, and you'd be completely swayed

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<v Speaker 3>by that as a congress person. And I'm looking to

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<v Speaker 3>our own industry, and you see it reflected in various

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<v Speaker 3>websites and news channels and stuff like that. They have

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<v Speaker 3>the ability now to track second by second when people

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<v Speaker 3>tune in, when they tune out what you're doing, when

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 3>they tune out what you're doing, when they're staying tuned.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in radio two, but we ignore it for various reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>But you become this like you're being jerked on a chain,

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<v Speaker 3>serving the momentary whims of the audience in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that seems like good business at first, but then it's

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<v Speaker 3>to me, it's like shoveling in sugar. That first bite

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<v Speaker 3>sounds great, tastes great, and all, but you just keep

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<v Speaker 3>shoveling it in until you're sick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's how do I explain this?

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<v Speaker 3>Being in Congress has always been a balance between being

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<v Speaker 3>a leader and being a representative. And if your constituents

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<v Speaker 3>wants something loathsome stupid and unconstitutional, that's when you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to be a leader. And I just I think we've

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<v Speaker 3>got too much representative and not enough leader in our politics.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's pretty clear, some of which has to

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<v Speaker 4>do with the small donor fundraising.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, oh yeah, that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, big donor fundraising would reward leadership. Small donor

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<v Speaker 4>fundraising rewards you doing what I yelled about right right.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, it can be a ten minute like political cycle.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a news story.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all fired up, I send you twenty five bucks

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<v Speaker 3>and then everybody forgets about it ten minutes later.

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<v Speaker 2>But I've raised three million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>And the AOC's and the Marjorie Taylor Greens understand that

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<v Speaker 4>better than anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Armstrong and Getty show, Yeah, or Jack or

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<v Speaker 1>show podcasts and our hot links.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it so cold with dear Michael?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I had turned it up and then

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<v Speaker 5>the air condition turned itself back on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's punishment.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it's punishment for what I did to that

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<v Speaker 4>we did to deserve this. But it's like fifty eight

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<v Speaker 4>degrees in here being treated like North Korean dissidents. Huh,

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 4>what's up with that? Speaking of North Korea, woke up

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<v Speaker 4>to see that Putin and North Koreas signed a pact.

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<v Speaker 2>They now have a packed to come to.

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<v Speaker 4>Each other's defense if they are attacked by I guess

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<v Speaker 4>they're implying us well. And it's full of what delights

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<v Speaker 4>me in spite of the horror of the thing. I

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<v Speaker 4>am always amused by the stilted, grandiose language that comes

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<v Speaker 4>out of every pronouncement from North Korea. The permanent friendship

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<v Speaker 4>built of solid granite between our two gargantuan peoples.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's just always that inflated rhetoric. I'll find

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<v Speaker 3>the specifics for you.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's just that's pretty good, ridiculous, solid, gargantuan peoples.

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<v Speaker 3>They are pledged an everlasting friendship and on wavering support.

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<v Speaker 3>I do agreement would form the backbone of the countries.

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<v Speaker 2>BA right, oh here it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I am confident that during this visit the ardent friendship

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<v Speaker 3>between the two countries will be strengthling.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm on a list, all right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't get the crowd that doesn't think we need

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<v Speaker 4>to engage these people. Russia and China and North Korea

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<v Speaker 4>and Iran are intertwined in more ways than they've ever been.

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<v Speaker 4>Iran's providing weapons to Russia. Russia's providing stuff to Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>It's shown up in fighting Israel and Ukraine and all

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<v Speaker 4>over the place.

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<v Speaker 2>In China.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, we know what China is and they're all

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<v Speaker 4>working together, and it's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's terrible for the world. This is a major world moment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is. I think the isolation is crowded.

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<v Speaker 3>Neo isolationists would say, well, they're just doing that because

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<v Speaker 3>the US has pressured them. They form a eard kind

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<v Speaker 3>of alliance with the self hating liberal. They believe that

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<v Speaker 3>all evil that befalls the world that has anything to

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<v Speaker 3>do with the United States is the fault of the

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<v Speaker 3>United State. Well, I spent a decent chunk of my

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<v Speaker 3>adulthood as a near isolationist, so it's not like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>completely out of touch with that thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think I was wrong at this point. It

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<v Speaker 2>would be wonderful if isolationism worked. That would be great.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Oh, you don't have to get involved in everything.

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<v Speaker 4>That's certainly true. And we've gotten involved in things we

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<v Speaker 4>didn't need to get involved in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say that's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 3>And like most things in life, the extreme points of

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 3>view are very simple and easy to understand, and so

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 3>people like them. And the truth in foreign policy, like

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<v Speaker 3>in life, is that, no, it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of difficult judgments, and so many of them are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be like right on the margin. You're just

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<v Speaker 3>not sure. But the idea that you can just isolate yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in the new global instantaneous communication, practically instantaneous weaponry world,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mentioned yesterday, you weren't here on Friday when we talked

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<v Speaker 4>to Josh Rogan and his article in the Washington Post,

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<v Speaker 4>US military plans a hellscape to deter China. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>pretty damned interesting. But we're taking it super seriously as

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<v Speaker 4>we should. That China is going to move on Taiwan

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<v Speaker 4>at some point, and it could happen. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>there's any stopping it. Actually, there's a quote from Trump

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<v Speaker 4>where Trump said, oh, in the latest interview with Time magazine,

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<v Speaker 4>when he asked if we would defend Taiwan, he said

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<v Speaker 4>it would depend on the circumstances. President Trump once told

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<v Speaker 4>a GOP senator in a closed meeting that there isn't

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<v Speaker 4>a blanking thing we can do about it. If China

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<v Speaker 4>decides to take Taiwan. I think that's close to right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's gonna happen in like an hour. I mean someday.

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<v Speaker 4>All these military exercises they have like the other day

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<v Speaker 4>where they got the whole island surrounded with ships and

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<v Speaker 4>planes and everything like that, what if they actually do

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<v Speaker 4>it for real?

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<v Speaker 2>How would we stop that? Yeah, it might not even

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<v Speaker 2>be an attack, it would just be a siege.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, the healthscape idea is we got gazillions of

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<v Speaker 4>unmanned submarines and flying drones and all kinds of stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that we would unleash on them instantly to try to

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<v Speaker 4>slow them down to buy us some time, because our

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<v Speaker 4>Pentagon knows that they're gonna be able to do this

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<v Speaker 4>in like an, you know, fifteen minutes if they decided

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<v Speaker 4>to do it, So we got to move super duper fast.

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<v Speaker 4>So we got the hellscape that is the drone attack,

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<v Speaker 4>and then that buys us of the time plugged.

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<v Speaker 2>The zone with some drones. It's a zone drone well exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>good luck.

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<v Speaker 3>But I read Josh's piece at your recommendation and thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that is really intriguing, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure I'm buying right. Well, I have to say the.

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<v Speaker 3>Incredible interconnection of virtually all of the economies, No, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not true. I mean North Korean rush, aren't that interduce? Anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>Economic intertwining is what's holding China back at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>And it would not be an easy military victory over Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 3>not by any stretch of the imagination. Whether it could

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<v Speaker 3>be turned back is a different question. It would probably

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<v Speaker 3>be really quagmiriy.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm going through the America's Cold Wars of David sangerbook,

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<v Speaker 4>and he has got a long piece in there about

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<v Speaker 4>the relationship between Russian and China through the years, and

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<v Speaker 4>Stalin was somewhat shocked at one point when Mao, who chairman,

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<v Speaker 4>she idolizes and wants to be the new Mao. Mao

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<v Speaker 4>told Stalin, I'm perfectly fine with losing one hundred million

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<v Speaker 4>people if I have to defeat the United States a

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<v Speaker 4>hundred million.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I don't know if she's close to that number,

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<v Speaker 4>but if he was a fraction of it, if he's

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<v Speaker 4>only willing to lose a million men, we don't have

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of appetite. Nothing within a thousand miles.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the great weaknesses we have as

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<v Speaker 3>Americans is we think everybody thinks like us. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>because we're isolated by a couple of oceans. But I've

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned this before. In Maine, kompf har Hitler mentions that

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to be one of the great men

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<v Speaker 3>of history, you have to be willing to sacrifice the

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<v Speaker 3>tens of thousands at any moment, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the gall for that, you're not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a great man of history.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's rough.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, healthscape, can we do we actually have a hellscape

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<v Speaker 4>ready to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's a secret. I hope we do.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope we have a healthscape of drones, submarine drones,

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<v Speaker 4>submarine drones and air drones at the same time, very

0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 4>exciting flood to zone. We need those Chinese, We need

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<v Speaker 4>those Chinese dogs. I've seen the robot dogs with the

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<v Speaker 4>machine gun on their back.

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<v Speaker 2>A swim.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess it wouldn't help mechanize dog paddle, right,

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 4>it still looks scary you. If I see one of

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 4>those Chinese metal dogs running at me with a machine gun,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna I'm gonna lose my mud.

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<v Speaker 2>As they said in the Civil War, Armstrong and Getty