1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to More to It, to show that takes 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: and culture. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Start with headline news and then journey. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,159 Speaker 1: To deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: presented in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally, that. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Dude out here representing that neighborhood. As y'all know, I 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 2: ain't sugaring it right now. 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Love for y'all brothers, Love for y'all sisters out there 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: supporting this show, supporting the foundation Project Transition dot org. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: Go there right now, late sweepstakes. You know what we 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: got going, got this book. 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Right here, never shut up. Gonna hook you guys up 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: with that. 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: More importantly, we got all of our efforts and funding 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: going towards a few resource centers starting in Los Angeles, 17 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: starting in my. 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: Hometown where I'm from, Compton. 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, all those efforts you supporting us in the 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: community is all gonna pay off. So appreciate you guys 21 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: out there. Project Transition dot org all going. Any donation 22 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: amount enters you into the sweep stakes, Recurring donations enters 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: you into all the sweet stakes. You get some love 24 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: like that, you get this big old jersey, this jersey fresh. 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: Though I had to show y'all. 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Now y'all know who it was a lot of y'all 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: got that too, t Mac right there, Yes, the TMAC 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: jersey in the building that could be yours all right, 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: so we already start to show off. 30 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: With what's up with that dude? 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: Well, yesterday had a pickleball social, which is basically all 32 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: my people's coming over here hanging out playing some pickleball 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: during labor day. We got it in kids running around yesterday. 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: We had some unwanted visitors. We had a gang of Mosquitos, 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: like a gang of Mosquitos, like to the point where 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: you were like uncomfortable, like you need to pay your 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: orchan bill or something like that. 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: So we had that going yesterday. 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: A lot of food, a lot of drank, a lot 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: of hanging, a lot of chilling, and a lot of pickleball. 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: So had a good time. 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: And our school starts tomorrow and the first off after 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: labor Day. Why won't you start on Tuesday? And now 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: I gotta just say salute to my school for being 45 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: that damn smart, having that much for sight realizing today 46 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: ain't the day to get them boys and girls ready 47 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: for school. Man after a holiday slow motion for me, 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: I like it like that. 49 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: I'm telling y'all like we woke up late. 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: Everybody with the band late, everybody woke up late, whole 51 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: different animals. 52 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: So boy, if we had school today starting. 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: Off strike one day, one late or absent, so our 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: school is kind of smart right there. 55 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Now, let's speaking of somebody who won't be there. Jay 56 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: Williams is signing off from ESPN Radio. 57 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: Let's get into this. Y'all know Jay Will? I know 58 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Jay Will that's the homie. We should kick it tough. 59 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: When I had my days of going back and forth 60 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: to ESPN, so this is like early twenty ten's and 61 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: something like that, but we really got close, really cool 62 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: cat to this day. 63 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: All right. 64 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: So Jay Will gone from ESPN Radio after three years 65 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 1: on the program. Okay, they got a new program coming 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: with Chris Kenny, Big Dog, Evan Cohen and Michelle Smallman's Smallment, 67 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: so they're getting there started today. 68 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: He just expressed gratitude, thank you. 69 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: You know the same old stuff, the Hallmark card you 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: gotta sign. He thanked his former co host Keishawn Johnson, 71 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: Max Kellerman, my dogs and said respect to his brother. 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: He also said this quote, this show has gone through 73 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: a lot of challenges, It's gone through a lot of 74 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: learning opportunities, as I like to categorize it, and it's 75 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: been an absolute pleasure. All Right, I'm gonna bore y'all 76 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: with all that, because you know, he had to say 77 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: all that. I'm gonna tell y'all the real what's going 78 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: on here. Look, he's been a lane up for months 79 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: and that sucks, but doesn't suck so much compared to 80 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: the working man working woman out there who like, sometimes 81 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: you have to go through job uncertainty. In this situation, 82 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: basically how I went down was they weren't gonna knew 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: his contract, but they still wanted to use up the 84 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: contract terms and services until it expired. 85 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: So basically, come to work. 86 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: We the same to you, You be the same to us, 87 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: do the same thing, except you know, this has an 88 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: end date, This has a finishing line. Now why would 89 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: they do that? 90 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: Right? 91 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: Other people they were like all right, some people they 92 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: just said we're not renewing. Some people just said we're 93 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: terminating the contract, etc. And then we'll have to talk 94 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: after that. Why j will why just grow all the 95 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: way through with it? I'll tell you why. In this situation, 96 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: you didn't have to worry about Key Sean. 97 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: You didn't have to worry about Max Kellerman. And those are. 98 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: Obviously bigger contracts, So let's just start there. Max Kellerman 99 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: also had his own show. Having his own show comes 100 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: with production costs, comes with producers and researchers, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 101 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: And you look at those three, Jay will making the 102 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: least of those three. You say, well, at least he 103 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: can keep the boat float right, keep the boat afloat. 104 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: And the other guys y'all too heavy, y'all was sinking 105 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: this ship. Even though it's not a talent conversation. The 106 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: toughest part about this is wrapping your brain around why 107 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: they pick him and didn't pick him or didn't pick her. Right, 108 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: You're like, Jay Will better than some of the people 109 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: on that show and some of the people on the network. 110 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: But why Jay Will Keisha better than someone? Why Keysha 111 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: Max is better? Why Max? And the decision making process 112 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: is something that no one fully has wrapped their head around, 113 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: seriously talking to execs before and just knowing them. Sometimes 114 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: it's enforced from the top. We need to change the direction. 115 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just the fact that hey, not moving the needle. 116 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: But it's really difficult to look at the whole list 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: of people that either had their contracts terminated or expired. 118 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: What's the rhyme or reason for picking those guys. Let's 119 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 1: talk through j Will's situation right now, because I've already 120 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: heard he has a tremendous opport little shift in space, 121 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: but a tremendous opportunity already on his plate. 122 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: So I think he's gonna land on his feet and 123 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: be fine. 124 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: But these transitions and why these transitions, and how it 125 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: impacts you as it impacts. 126 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: The talent j Will Rolling, Rolling, Rolling. J Will all 127 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 2: of a sudden finds himself in this position, and it's 128 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: not due largely to just how good he is. 129 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: You want to know why because there's some other great 130 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: ones that they released as well. Now the dynamic of 131 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: what Jay Will was doing, what can you do? You 132 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: gotta show what keth Shan, you gotta show with Max 133 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: that ain't gonna flow. So now what you're gonna do? Basketball? 134 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: We let Jalen Rose go too, and regard it. Jayalen 135 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: Rose was regarded hire in the company than him, So 136 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: you can't really even search or figure out what's behind 137 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: all of this. We know it's the cost cutting ways, 138 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: but how do you call cut costs if you're also 139 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: going to cut costs on someone not making that much 140 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: money in the scope of things, And obviously we know 141 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: other guys they're making a lot more money. So I 142 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: looked at this situation as a whole, and I was like, damn, 143 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: you knew Jay Will wasn't gonna last, and then it 144 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: finally came. 145 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: But true that it kind of came to fruition. 146 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: So can't make sense out of nonsense, Grandma once told me, 147 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: and I love that as a wilyism, just because you 148 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: try to sit there if you. J Will, smart guy 149 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: went to do obviously number two pick overall horrific accident, 150 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: ended his career basically still became a great talking head 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: and nowhere to go at least that esp N. So 152 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: that situation, right there was just something I wanted to 153 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: touch on, see what he's gonna do, and see how 154 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: you guys felt about jay Will. Like I hear mixed 155 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: things about j Will from y'all, probably everybody me too, right, 156 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: But how y'all feel about this situation? And also these shifts, right, 157 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: these changes, how do they impact you? And how do 158 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: they impact sports media as a whole. Looking at this situation, 159 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: you're like, damn, jay Will gone too and it ain't 160 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 1: stopping more and more going, you know, on the side 161 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: know this. I just want to add this because I 162 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: was watching College Game Day is that what it is? 163 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: The morning show? And they had Lee Corso on. 164 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: There, and who doesn't have love for Leek corso 'specially 165 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: with that big o'head thing he built on the mask 166 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: out head. But then if you know a talent conversation, 167 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: you can see all of them care taking Lee Corso 168 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: because basically Lee Corso not he not at his best. 169 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: He ain't got his fastball no more. We know that. 170 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: So you see a situation you're like, but why and 171 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: then you're like, well, because he's older, you just want 172 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: to take care of him, let him down. 173 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: But do y'all think that that's fair? 174 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: And even are y'all looking at that situation a little skeptical? 175 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: Because I know it made me just think. I was like, 176 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: there's people that just for whatever reason, you just don't 177 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: let them go. And there's some people, for whatever reason, 178 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: even though they're good, you do let them go. Just 179 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: had to throw that in into it as well. That 180 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: up in the comments. Manks love for you guys out there, 181 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: go on the website Project transition dot org. Help us 182 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: build these resource centers, help us connect with. 183 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: These iddy biddies. 184 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Tomorrow I will be at East La College eLAC talking 185 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: to the group of kids and bringing them into our 186 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: mentorship program. Then we'll have our monthly check ins with 187 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: our mentorship program. After that they will be incentivized to 188 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: win scholarships as they're a part of our program. 189 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: All of that happens because of the support from you 190 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: and yours. 191 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: So make sure you go to Project transition dot org 192 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: and hook it up. Also, you know me, I ain't 193 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: gonna just say give me something. I gotta hook you 194 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 1: back up as well. So get this book never Shut Up. 195 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: Or get this tamac jersey from his grade school. It 196 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: looks like his high school right there. And other sweep 197 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: state gifts. We got charger tickets going out this weekend 198 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: as well. 199 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: We keep it going. 200 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Then we got some line on Richie and Earth winning 201 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: fire tickets, So hey, just enter man. 202 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: I'm always gonna make sure I look out for you guys. 203 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: All right, Speaking of somebody looking out for himself, not 204 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: you guys. It's Chris Chris Jones. Chris Jones is like, nahby, 205 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm not playing for twenty million a year. 206 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: I need MUCHAI all right. So Travis Kelce, the tight 207 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: end for the Chiefs. He was on his own podcast, 208 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: y'all know him and his brother, and he was like, 209 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: I gotta express some concern and some issue that I 210 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: have with Chris Jones holding out. And he said, Chris, 211 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: can you please come back? You're really scaring me. Man, 212 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't get it. You must know something that I 213 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: don't know, because I just don't get it. I really 214 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: want to get another Super Bowl ring with you, brother, please. 215 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: We need you. 216 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: We need you bad, and I don't know what the 217 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: situation is now. He made that when he was on 218 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: New Heights with his brother. 219 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: Jason, and it's interesting how he said it. 220 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: If y'all caught what he was saying, he was taught 221 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: talking about worry and confusion. I don't get it now. 222 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: That's hard to swallow. If you, Chris Jones, and for 223 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: me to understand, you're his teammate and you know why 224 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: you're holding out, So what you're really saying is it's 225 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: not confusing, it's why are you even taking that position? 226 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: Like you're not confused? What it's about he mak it 227 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: twenty million? Basically you saying no, you make it way 228 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: too much to be holding out. You make enough, You 229 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: make enough to be in here playing for us. You 230 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: make it more than me. I'm a beast, I play 231 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: a different position, So I get it. I ain't trying 232 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: to count your money. I ain't trying to patch your pockets. 233 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't get it. We 234 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: rolling as a team, we're trying to have this dynasty, 235 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and you making twenty Here's the craziest part about it. 236 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Jones was set to earn eighty million over the four 237 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: year contract he's just signed, so obviously that makes you 238 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: one of, but not the highest paid defense. 239 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: It's a tackle. Now he's one of, if not the best. 240 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: Right now. 241 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: You can say Aaron Donald, you can say Chris Jones, 242 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: but it's pretty much those two neck and neck, I 243 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: would say, And it's just putting pressure on this team 244 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: to try and cover that void. 245 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: Looking at Chris Jones, you're like dog. You just has 246 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: for the eighty million, got it? 247 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: And now you can't even finish that deal and try 248 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: to re up again. Teammates are being nice, Coach Andy 249 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: Reid's being nice. What they want to say is, dog, 250 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: you're being greedy. You're being Hella greedy right now and 251 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: not thinking about anybody else. And that's the rub in 252 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: a team sport, the ultimate team sport, where there's no 253 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: iron team, but there is a me. How do you 254 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: balance out? Yeah, I hear y'all, dog, but I gotta 255 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: do me. And that's where Chris Jones is right now. 256 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: So Chris Jones of this situation, they were talking about 257 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: it to Andy Reid as well, and then he was saying, look, 258 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: Chris has chosen to go this route. Some other guys 259 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: have chosen to get their deal done and come in 260 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: and play. I'm not here to criticize one way or 261 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: the other. To think that you're gonna fill in for Chris. 262 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: That's not what you're doing. 263 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: As long as he is physically in good shape, you 264 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: can kind of start working them in and get them going. 265 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: Then you play it by ear after that and see 266 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: where he's at. Okay, so we know they played Detroit 267 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: this week. They got the Detroit Lions on Thursday night, football, 268 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: and they tried to fill in the gap, got Neil 269 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: Ferrell from the Vegas Raiders. But the point of this 270 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: is how these teammates and Andy Reid are biting their 271 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: tongue trying to protect Chris Jones, when in reality, if 272 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: you read between the lines, it's not that hard. 273 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: They are like, dog, is this how we gonna get down? 274 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: All right? 275 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: So I'm not a fan of holding out of a 276 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: deal that you just signed and were a static to sign, like. 277 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: When you signed for twenty million at that time, WHOA. 278 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: But I'm also not a hater of some one who 279 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: stays locked and step with their market value and we'll 280 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: reset it on moments. Notice, I'm a little envious to 281 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: that guy, But at the same time, I think that 282 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: guy is a little too gangster for me in terms 283 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: of me trying to express myself that way. If I 284 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: were Chris Jones, I would play this year out and 285 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: I know I'm about to get another deal because that 286 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: deal is over. But whether it's through him talking to 287 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: others or him just knowing his leverage is so high, 288 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: he like, I'm gonna strike wile Iron's hot right now. 289 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: But I think for Chris Jones, it stays hot one 290 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: because of his talent. Two is production. Three is position. 291 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: You play d tackle dog. They gonna pay. You're gonna 292 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: get your money, and your numbers don't have to be 293 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: insane at Detackle. A lot of double teams, triple teams. 294 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: You mean so much in other ways. The numbers that 295 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: we don't count, we know your impact. So I know 296 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: if I were his teammate, I would be like Travis 297 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: Kelce or worse because I wouldn't even want to hide it. 298 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: If I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say it. If 299 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say it, we're not gonna talk about 300 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: Chris Jones. That's what I probably are dumb like now 301 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Chris Jones. And you will 302 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: know why I don't want to talk about Chris Jones 303 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: because I ain't got nothing good to say, and I'm 304 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna say you ain't got nothing to say good, don't 305 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: say nothing at all. So this is a very impossible 306 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: situation that fifty two other guys and the coaching staff 307 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: is put in cause the Chris Jones. Now the flip is, 308 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: just pay the dude, pay them thirty What do you 309 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: want thirty thirty two? Pay them. 310 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: The money doesn't even become the issue. 311 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: Fully, that principle is not the issue the al it's 312 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: the le like dog. You just signed four years and 313 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: you didn't finish that one. Well, now we're gonna re 314 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: up and give you thirty and you gonna finish that one. 315 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: What gives us confidence that you're gonna finish that one? 316 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: So you know, holdouts work. I'm not saying you can't 317 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: hold out. It's the spirit of why you're holding out. 318 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: And it's the fact that you're holding out when before 319 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: you got exactly what you wanted and that was more 320 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: than enough. 321 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: And how quickly things have changed. Ah, it's tough, man. 322 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: It seems like you, if you're Chris Jones, you could 323 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: have walked this one better into a position where you 324 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: can meet in the middle, especially when you need them 325 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: to sign off. He's gonna show up by week eight 326 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: because he ain't gonna miss this year in terms of eligibility. 327 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: But will it be too late for this team in 328 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: terms of how they're playing. 329 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: I doubt it. Will it be too late for Chris 330 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Jones to get exactly what he wants. 331 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: I certainly doubt that. I don't think he's gonna get 332 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: what he wants this year. I could be wrong, love 333 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: to eat crow as long as he gets his. But 334 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: right now, nobody's getting theirs while Chris Jones is wholding out. 335 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: So what do y'all think about Chris Jones right now 336 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: in this situation? Think he being selfish? You think he 337 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: has to be selfish? Or you thinking like he's nah. 338 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: Selfish is one thing, greedy is another. And then what 339 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: are the to y'all like, how would y'all play pros 340 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: and cons of holding out or saying I'm coming in 341 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: and working with you guys, giving my deal? 342 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: What would you do? 343 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: My personality is I'm gonna be in that building now 344 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: because I'm kissing button because I'm about to put in 345 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: some work and get some more money. You get all 346 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: that money being on that field, I don't get adamn 347 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: how good you are. 348 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: You ain't gonna get all that money. 349 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: All the time if you're sitting there only talking about it, 350 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: not walking through it. Hey, I see you right there 351 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: right Remember when I start hearing people saying I just 352 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: want to be seen. 353 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: People do because I used to have like five five 354 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: ear piercings and nose ring and tattoos. Eight cars. Im 355 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: you start looking back, like what I do all that 356 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: for it? For real? 357 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: Just somebody could notice me, or not just notice me, 358 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: but give me what I wanted easier, if you know 359 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, whether that was just entrance into a club, 360 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: if that was hey, look at. 361 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: Me, pretty girl. 362 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to have to say everything to make 363 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: you say hello, or if it was just like dog, 364 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: I want all these du to respect me, looked up 365 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: to me. Whatever it may be, crazy, right, I guess 366 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: we all want to be seen. Well, you know what 367 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: you want to see. You want to see this book 368 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: from the inside. I'm telling y'all go to Project Transition 369 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: dot org and get yourself one of those books. 370 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 2: How do you get it? 371 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: You just enter any amount as a donation and you 372 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: enter the sweepstakes. We always got sweep stakes, always giving 373 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: stuff away because we're always trying to take care of 374 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: you as you take care of me, taking care of 375 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: the community. Tomorrow East LA College helping out the kids, 376 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 1: and our mentorship program making sure these kids get to 377 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: those forks in the road and go right not left, 378 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: also got sweepstakes. Items like this team Mac and a 379 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: house teammate got the freshest throwback so far. 380 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: We're gonna have some fun with that, all right, Let's 381 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: have some fun with Shannon Sharp right now. Because Scoop Scoop, scoop. 382 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: He hit it, he hit it, He hit it a bunch. 383 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: I think only count it too, so that's not really 384 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: a bunch. But I ain't watched the whole episode, ease, 385 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: did you? So we know Shannon Sharp is left undisputed. 386 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Came here said by Skip Bayless, my dog, what's up? 387 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: Stephen A? My dog? And got there. 388 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know Vegas had this as a prop bet, 389 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: but I know I did. I know all my boys 390 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: did what was over under for him saying skip to 391 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: stephen A. We were like three, We had a three. 392 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I'm gonna say under. 393 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: But I wouldn't have put the money on it because 394 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: I was like, man, it's gonna be tough. 395 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: Old habits are hard to break. But there's more to 396 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: this one than just old habits, as I will discuss. 397 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: So we saw him on the very first segment of 398 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: first Take, responded to some Kansas City Chief Detroit lion 399 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: question and immediately said skip to stephen A. And you 400 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 1: know steven A oh no, we were good. It's all right, 401 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: I get it. And then he just kept going and 402 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: then it happened again. They came back at the commercial break. 403 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: They were talking about the Jets and Aaron Rodgers and 404 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: he was like, you'll skip, and he said it again. 405 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: He was trying to bring up a story and interaction 406 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: with NFL player Ben Coates, former great tight end himself. 407 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: And then you know, Stephen, ay, oh no, it's all good. 408 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: You know, I get it. 409 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: And he was like, it's been seven years, Stephen. A 410 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: skip And they went through that, right, real lighthearted, nothing major, 411 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: but let me say a couple of things. You know, 412 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: you never get a second chance to make a first 413 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: impression kind of things. That's where nervousness comes from. Like 414 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: the origins of nervousness is how do I impress? How 415 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: do I show that I am prepared? How did I 416 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: show that I am worthy? Right, even when you are 417 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: as great and big as a Shannon Shark, three time 418 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions, Hall of Famer, been broadcasting longer than 419 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: he played, even then, he's still nervous. 420 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: Ain't that crazy? Right? 421 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Not nervous like sweating and all that, but just like 422 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do it all right and try to 423 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: push every button. I'm gonna make sure this goes well, 424 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: go smooth, And even in those moments, still we muscle memory. Man, 425 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: We're a walking muscle memory. So you've been trained to 426 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: stay skip a thousand times a show because that was 427 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: your catchphrase. Like my catchphrase is right, I say right 428 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: a lot can many times I say right in the show. 429 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: You'll be surprised. Right, let me stop. So the point 430 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: is you got that going. So he was a little nervous. 431 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: Whatever they drop soos, whatever did y'all catch this? So 432 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: my introduction to their dynamic was watching Club Shaysha. When 433 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: he dropped that, I think Friday, him and stephen A, 434 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: and I was thoroughly surprised by their dynamic. I see 435 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: a big brother, little brother dynamic more than I anticipated. 436 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: I see someone who is in this industry, stephen A 437 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: as established and as great as he is, actually looking 438 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: in Shannon and talking to Shannon and Shannon talking back 439 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: to him like stephen A, you looking out for me, 440 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: stephen A, you hooking me up? 441 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: Stephen A, you doing me one? And I ain't expect 442 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: to see that because. 443 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: All the other guys in that rotation that are being 444 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: like a mad dog. 445 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: I don't see that from him. 446 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: And I look at Shannon Sharp like he a mad 447 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: dog of his own way, of his own style. Now 448 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: mad dog got mad Dog Radio and been in the 449 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: game forever. But the point is you ad Super Bowl Champion, 450 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: you had, Hall of Famer, you had, You've been doing 451 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: this since what CBS early two thousands with Damn Marino, 452 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: like come on, dog like and I didn't expect that, 453 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: But then it started to click and make some sense. 454 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: I watched that interview in this entirety the Club Shay 455 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: Shay one, and they were talking about how Stephen they 456 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of stuck his neck out, just went out there, 457 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: not on a limb, but went out there first and 458 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: broadcasted loudly. He wonted Shannon Sharp, and I was like, 459 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: why is he doing that? Shannon Shark gonna get what 460 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: he gonna get on his own marriage. He don't need 461 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: somebody like throwing them. 462 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: All a branch. But then it started to crystallize. 463 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: And they you gotta catch this, but they sped through it. 464 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: But they basically were talking about how Stephen they knew 465 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: what was gonna happen to Shannon sharpo Undisputed, and it happened, 466 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: and Shannon was like, damn doll, you saw that. You 467 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: knew that, and I couldn't believe that. I ain'tdn't even 468 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: understand that at first. And now he's over there, and 469 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: now you can see the reverence, the deference that Shannon 470 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: is paying to stephen A. 471 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 2: Smith. 472 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: I thought that dynamic was fascinating and telling. I think 473 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: it was telling because stephen A was there for Shannon 474 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: when Shannon was in a situation, in a pickle or 475 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: whatever it may be, through the negotiation of the buyout. Right, 476 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: That's why I claimed still that this was not abrupt. 477 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: But this came to a head fast, all of a sudden. 478 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: You just look up, Shannon Sharp is gonna leave Undisputed, 479 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 2: really and there's a buy out, So that means they 480 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: want something too, and they gonna get something, give something 481 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: to What do they want? They just wanted Shannon to 482 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: move on? Crazy, right? What do they get? 483 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: They got the fact that they can move on with 484 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: the show in a different way, different version to what 485 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: they are showing now the Avengers cast. 486 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: What do they have to give up? Still got to 487 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: pay the due because you're still owe the dude, what'd 488 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: you give up? Give him? Club? Shay Shane, what'd you get? 489 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: We got our new version, we got our new way, 490 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: and we got our guys Skip Bayless. 491 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: Happy again, I assume. And it's weird. It was that contentious, 492 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: right right, Stephen. 493 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: They stuck his neck out, knowing being the og, being 494 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: the vet like all, they're about to play Shannon over there. 495 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: Let me make sure Shannon land on his feet and. 496 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Lands would first take, and then Colin must caught winning too. Hey, 497 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: go do what you gotta do, big dog. I know 498 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to press you, but we hear at 499 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: the volume as well. So just an interesting way that 500 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: it's all playing out and playing through. But I laughed 501 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: when I saw him just calling him Skip a couple times, 502 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: as we all should, as Shannon gets more comfortable in 503 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: that role. But I didn't know that that role was 504 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: gonna be that slice of Shannon Shark like him looking 505 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: at Stephen a like good looking out, big dog. I'm like, damn, 506 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: I just know Shannon could get it with his own muscle, 507 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: could get it with his own marriat. 508 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting to see. 509 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: How that plays, because if you start off like that 510 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: like Stephen A is the big dog, big bro, what 511 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: happens when Shannon grows if he grows in this role 512 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: like he did and undispute it, or maybe because he's 513 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: only on there for two days a week, he's already 514 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: capped himself in that role. Just thought those things were interesting. 515 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: Y'all tell me what y'all think about it as well, 516 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: and what you think of the transition so far from 517 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: undisputed to first take from Shannon's perspective looking at Shannon. Also, 518 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: let's do a little comparison, like what y'all feeling so far, 519 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: like your energy Shannon over there at first take or 520 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: skipping everybody else over there undisputed? Beat it up in 521 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: the comments. Let's talk to that. Oh man, this right 522 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: here is for you. You want it, you can have it. 523 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: Project transition dot org go there. Donate any amount. If 524 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: you donate a recurring amount that means weekly, monthly, you 525 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: are introded into every single sweep sakes, which includes getting 526 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: this jersey. I'm just gonna give it to you had 527 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: this jersey for like twenty years, man, Mitchell and Ness 528 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: used to hook me up, and I have like thousands 529 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: of jerseys. Real talk and I'm like, why am I 530 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: holding onn of these? Like I'm just gonna one day 531 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: I got a game room and like I'm just gonna 532 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: throw them all on the wall, Like that's what you 533 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: say when you're getting them, like you collecting them, like 534 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: oh yeah, my gameroom go me and saying, man, my 535 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: game room got all jerseys of me and Magic Johnson. 536 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm out of that phase, whatever that is. 537 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: But I love these jerseys. 538 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: They're insane, and I think you guys deserve them as well. 539 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,239 Speaker 1: So go to Project Transition dot org log on and 540 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: get that jersey. 541 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: Man. 542 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: All right, let's fix the w NBA, because y'all know 543 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm huge fans, huge fans of my daughters. What I 544 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: don't like the WNBA, And I'm mad that I don't 545 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: like it because I love basketball and I love my 546 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: daughters and I love women that play basketball. But damn it, 547 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't like the WNBA, and that's bad taking away 548 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: options from all those dunkin girls. Y'all see that, y'all 549 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: see that girl, that's I think she in the seventh grade. 550 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: She dumps for real, like like not statue celebrity and 551 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: a hope and a prayer and tithing on Sunday, like 552 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: like I saw her do this. Think she in the 553 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: seventh grade bouncies It's coming. Trust me, when my daughters 554 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: get older, one of them gonna bounce and dunk. My 555 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: daughter gonna do this. She's gonna do a cradle rocker, 556 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. So let's fix it at the 557 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: top that yesterday's show we were talking aboutvolleyball, women's volleyball. 558 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: We going to fix these sports where we know athletes 559 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: are and they need to be rewarded. 560 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: So let's talk about. 561 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: The concerns of the WNBA players, all right now, they 562 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: poll superstars, veterans, newcomers. 563 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: All of them. 564 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Here's their short list of what they don't like about 565 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: the WNBA. So y'all don't think I'm a hater. The 566 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: people playing even don't like some of this stuff. They 567 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: don't like the travel, they don't like the lack of visibility, 568 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: the marketing issue, security, franchise expansion, they want greater roster sizes, 569 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: and they want to change. 570 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: To the salary cap structure. 571 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: So I think the only thing that's left is they 572 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: like the uniforms like they don't like they league either. 573 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about it first. Let's start with 574 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: them commercial flights. Have y'all ever been to the airport 575 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: and seen the w NBA players. I have not. 576 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: Now, I've seen a lot of sports on there, you know, 577 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: especially collegiate athletes. See the baseball team all the time, 578 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: see the volley ball team. But w NBA players take 579 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: commercial flights. And they say it, They said it right 580 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: here quote it's an absolute waste of time. 581 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 2: The delays. Come on, y'all. 582 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: The lack of flexibility is not a charter a professional league. 583 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: That is sitting there. This is your captain. 584 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Speaking, and he ain't just talking to Brittany Grinder. He's 585 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: talking to everybody. Three hundred people on his plane and 586 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: thirty of them in the NBA WNBA. 587 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: Come on, man, gotta do better. Our flight is now 588 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: delayed Gate D three, Gate D three. 589 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: And y'all pros, come on, man, we gotta fix this, 590 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: all right. So they got a lot of issues. They 591 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: don't like that. 592 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 2: Also, the international players. 593 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: Tsa pre check, the clear program, they got issues. They 594 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: struggle getting through that because they're international players. Okay, so 595 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: it's exhausting and time consuming. 596 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: They hate that, all right. Here's another thing, that they 597 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: don't like the salary structure. They want more. 598 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: Flexibility, obviously higher earnings so that they don't have the 599 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: need to have to go elsewhere and play. 600 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: Basketball and the off season. 601 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: Now I can hear everybody in the comments right now, 602 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: tough cookie, and like, everybody want their job to pay 603 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: them more, right So, I'm like, but they wanted to 604 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: go proposed salary rangers from three hundred to four hundred 605 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: thousand with incentives to reach six hundred thousand to retain 606 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: the top talent within the league so they don't have 607 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: to play year round. 608 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: We know the easy way to do that. 609 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: Is you got to make this product more viable, more 610 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 1: exciting to people so that they will support and invest 611 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: more in it, and then the numbers go up. So 612 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: that's a tough complaint because you complain about something you 613 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: can fix, but it's tough to fix it if the 614 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: structure's not there, if the WNBA at large is not 615 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: good enough. So it's not about the talent, it's not 616 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: about the players, it's about the hell the product is 617 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: doing what they're doing with the product, right, So they 618 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: also have issues with the safety, talking about look before, 619 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: during and after games, hotels we don't have the same 620 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: safety standards that the other sports have as well. Schedule flexibility. 621 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: They want that. They're talking about their travel. They gotta 622 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: go way way cross country, sometimes layovers, not even a charter. 623 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: All bad, all bad. Okay. 624 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: And now the last thing is their contracts. The fact 625 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: that a few of them are guaranteed, right, isn't that crazy? 626 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: Like no guarantee contracts for WNBA players. 627 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: All of that? All right, I'm about to fix it 628 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: right now, straight up. 629 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna go to my same old lower the 630 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: rim even though that works, they won't even try it. 631 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: The ball is smaller, Okay, we know the shooting distances 632 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: are different for three pointers, etc. This is how you 633 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: fix it, seriously, this is how you fix it. Because 634 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: they are in the red right, being subsidized by the 635 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: NBA every single year. 636 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: This is how you fix it. 637 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: You look at the program, you look at the WNBA 638 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: as a whole, and you say this, we are going 639 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: to reduce this, not expand this. Reduce this and refine it. 640 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: So no more expansion talk. We're going to keep these 641 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: same amount of teams and players. We're also going to 642 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: do what the NBA did to clean up their image 643 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: to help them become more exciting slash more inviting and 644 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: more popular. You know, they had that dress code for 645 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: the NBA, and all of a sudden, people was like 646 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: complaining about it, but then everybody got with the program. 647 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: But what it did is it altered the. 648 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Image of what the NBA was, not the game, not 649 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: the product, but just the image and our perception of it, 650 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: how we received it. The WNBA needs a makeup in 651 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: terms of this image as well. Right, you watch the 652 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: WNBA all the time and you see a few things 653 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: that stick out, Right, you see a lot of people 654 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: out there balling out of control, and they don't have 655 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: the femininity that you would expect from an all women's sport. 656 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: Here's a comparison. 657 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: You watch women's tennis and you're like, oh, okay, you 658 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: and it's expressed in all different ways. So don't get 659 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: boxed in thinking they gotta look one way. Then you 660 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: look at the WNBA, they're like, and I used to laugh, 661 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: we used to clown like this in high school. We're like, 662 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: why every girl if and we said every We were 663 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: being absolute hyperbolic, Why every girl that ball gotta look 664 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: like the dude that ball? 665 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: Right? It was like weird, and then dudes was like, 666 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: yeah for real, like you ain't gotta look like us? 667 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: The ball like us ball like you look And then 668 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 2: you would see some that did that. 669 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: Who comes to mind, Scholar Diggins comes to mind, right, 670 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: a few others, and I know they're out there. But 671 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: the point is I saw the NBA just saying, ain't 672 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with wearing teas and baggy jeans, but we 673 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: got an image issue that we can fix. 674 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 2: So how can we. 675 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: Now map that on to the WNBA and get somewhere. 676 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: That's all they need because they're not gonna listen to 677 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: me and just lower the rim. So they need to 678 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: make sure that this is a more open, inviting, exciting game. 679 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: Eximp is that now the sexuality of the people. Look 680 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: how many are lesbian or not? 681 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: I don't go down those paths really because you could 682 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 2: be a lesbian or not. You can be a gay. 683 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: Player or not ball, but it's not that it's the 684 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: expression of what you are that the NBA or WNBA 685 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: needs to get a stronghold of The NBA did it 686 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: and it helped because it was getting out of control, 687 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: and the WNBA needs to do that as well. 688 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: Right, you got little girls. I have girls. My girls 689 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 2: are athletic. 690 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: They may want to play basketball, they may not, but 691 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: if they do, I don't want them all of a 692 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,959 Speaker 1: sudden to be placed into a culture that looks that way, 693 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: that looks like it doesn't care about its perception. Right, 694 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: just everybody be just whatever. The NBA didn't do that, 695 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: So why is the WNBA doing that? 696 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: Right? 697 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: Clean it up a little bit. I saw all I 698 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: gotta say, or you ain't gonna get my any bities. 699 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: They ain't gonna want to play now. Seriously, I think 700 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: the sensibilities get altered. A lot of parents. I hear this, 701 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: A lot of parents like, nah, I don't want them 702 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: to play that sport because it just looks it you 703 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: alreways hear it looks violent some sports. 704 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: Some sports. Ah, they don't look like they're into it. 705 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: They are. 706 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: You look at WNBA. They don't look like they happy. 707 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: They don't look like girls look, they don't look like 708 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: women look. And that's a lot of different things. So 709 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,399 Speaker 1: I get it. But we know what the WNBA needs 710 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: to do a lot, and it's coming from the inside out. 711 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: These players are saying it. Hopefully they will listen. So 712 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: y'all tell me what y'all think the fix is. I 713 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: think a real cosmetic fix. 714 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 2: I hate. 715 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: Part of me wants to say, just make it look fresher. 716 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: Then some of me wants to say, make it look beautiful, prettier, 717 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: like all them pretty girls like you seeing when they 718 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: go to the war ceremony? Do you see when they playing? 719 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: You're like, I know it's a lot. I know it's 720 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: a lot to be running up and down the court sweating, 721 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: but like, just I don't know. 722 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 2: They did it with the dudes. 723 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: They clean the dudes up, So I'm like, let's clean 724 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: up the look of that. What do you guys think 725 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: the fix could be? 726 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: Right? Because I really want this league to succeed for real. 727 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: I just think it's good for everybody involved. If this 728 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: league succeeds, women can't play basketball and make a great living. 729 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: That ain't good for nobody. All right, y'alle, it's kind 730 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: of funk us for comments focus from commics. Yeah, all right, 731 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: here we go Nebraska world record talking about the women's 732 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: volleyball record they set in attendance. I think for sure 733 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: they can make a league that's profitable, but it would 734 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: really require one or two super marketable personalities to get 735 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: it off the ground. He just said it again, marketable. 736 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: Make the WNBA marketable with personalities. We know what we 737 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: talking about, right, and volleyball does it. Volleyball has a 738 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: leg up on the WNBA in terms of look and marketability. 739 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 1: You look at the volleyball player, you're like, oh, yeah, 740 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: I want my doctor go jump wall spike. Yet all 741 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: that right, and then it ain't translating the saying in WNBA. 742 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: If people care, they would show up, if only people 743 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: cared about the WNBA. Yeah, maybe I'm just blowing smoke. 744 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: Maybe I am Deon Sanders. 745 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: I've bet Florida Gators, which they hired Coach Prime a 746 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: couple of years back. Here ooh coach Prime at Florida. 747 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: Oh with those resources with them here the chump, Oh 748 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,479 Speaker 1: my god, that would have been insane. It's just one game, people, 749 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: a very good win. But let's not get carried away 750 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: just yet. 751 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: Geeesh. 752 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: I hate this guy, even though you're my dog. What's 753 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: your name, Jaxon Junior? I hate when you excited. Somebody 754 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 1: always say chill out, calm down. You'd be like dog, 755 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: you know how hard it is get excited. Let me 756 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: be excited. I trust me. I will recover if I'm disappointed, 757 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: But right now I'm not. I'm excited. Let me be 758 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: man from prime time to Coach Prime and everything in 759 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: the middle. I appreciate the dude, the work and what 760 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 1: he stands for. That said, this one game and what 761 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: a game it was, But the path forward this year 762 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: and beyond had some tough times ahead. I believe in 763 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: what Coach promised building and hope folks give him the 764 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: space to grow through good and bad because life and 765 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: the game is full of both. Yep, there's gonna be 766 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: some ups and down. Oh you talk UCLA, USC Oregon. 767 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he knows, it's all good. It's a hodspodge 768 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: of talent anymore. This is about Team USA and our 769 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: loss not indicative of the real talent we have to 770 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: dominate anywhere. There is no incentive to put together those teams. Yeah, 771 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: our best talent ain't playing, so therefore we losing out 772 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: there as we saw the Lithuania. NBA remains the best 773 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: league in the world, so the NBA league champion can 774 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: still call themselves world champs. How we perform at international 775 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: events has no standing on that statement. The best international 776 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: and domestic talent plays in the NBA. Yeah, but even 777 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: when we had the best, we've lost internationally. So that's 778 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: the everlasting conversation that I'm assuming we all are going 779 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: to have. All Right, y'all, y'all know how we finish 780 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: every show. We finished it with a wily ism. Yeah, 781 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: results only come before risks in the dictionary. That's what 782 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: I said, even though I stuttered d results only come 783 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 1: before risk in the dictionary. 784 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: That's right. 785 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: Remember when this one hit me? Because you know, sometimes 786 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: you want to play a safe God. We love we 787 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: love structure, we love convenience, right, we love something that's repeatable, 788 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: but sometimes you gotta take a risks, right, and that 789 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: risk is how you get through results, results, and you 790 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: get the rewards. 791 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 2: But damn, it's a little uncomfortable taking risks. 792 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: Right, I'm gonna go to that school my first risk 793 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: I felt that I actually signed off and did. Wasn't 794 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: me switching high schools because I was like, I'm gonna 795 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: go to a high school that I know is a 796 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: good high school. A lot of people go to college 797 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: from et cetera. So I wasn't thinking that was risky. 798 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: It was scary. It was a little challenging, but it 799 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: wasn't risky. When I went to Columbia. It was risky. 800 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: I want to going to Columbia playing football when they 801 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: had a forty four game losing streak right before I 802 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 1: got there. 803 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 2: That's risky. 804 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: But I just thought that it was the best situation 805 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 1: for all things considered. And I remember going there and realizing, wow, man, 806 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: there were gonna be a lot of dark days. There 807 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: were a lot of days where I was like, is 808 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 1: this gonna really work? 809 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 2: Is this gonna really pay off? Right? 810 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: But I had to take the risks to even know 811 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: the result. And that's the point of this one. 812 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 2: So in any. 813 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: Endeavor, you got think about it. You want it, but 814 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: what you're gonna risk to get it? Because that's what 815 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: football showed me. Football showed me that, Hey, no matter 816 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: what you want, there's gonna be an optacle, adversity, opposition, 817 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: an opponent you gotta go through to get it, and 818 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard, but if you really want it, 819 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna go through it to go get it. So 820 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: if y'all want them results, remember man, they only come 821 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: before risks in the dictionary. All right, y'all, that'll do 822 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: it for more to It. Check the show notes for 823 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: all the information on our topics today. Today, I want 824 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: to keep the conversation go on. Let's talk to find 825 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: me on all socials at Marcel's Wiley. More Too is 826 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: a production of Dan Patrick Production That Dude Entertainment and 827 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: workhouse Media. Show is executive produced by Dan Patrick, Marcel's Whally, 828 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: Paul Anderson, and Nick Ponella. 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