1 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 2 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to Faith and Freedom. I'm Shechemaine Nugent. 3 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: My first guest is a military veteran filmmaker and the 4 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: creator of Bards FM, a platform that is huge and 5 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: combines faith, patriotism and truth. He's traveled the world as 6 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: war correspondent and now he's bringing hope encourage in a 7 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: message all for you, and I can't wait to talk 8 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: to him. My guest is Scott Kesterson. Welcome back, Scott 9 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: to Faith and Freedom. 10 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: Hey Shamaine, how are you doing. Thanks for having me on. 11 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure being here. 12 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So I told you I have a surprise for you. 13 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 4: Well I'm not really that much of a surprise because 14 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 4: I'm you big go to said everywhere. A happy, happy October, 15 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 4: natural organic, perfect hunting season to you, Scott. 16 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 5: Thanks Ted. 17 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: I was just watching my turkeys go up the hills, 18 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: so I know what I got to do today. 19 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: I'm watching my thirsty breast gets laid off with a 20 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: large knife to go in the smoker. That's how I 21 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 4: watch my turkeys. 22 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 3: But we have been friends. 23 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: We have been friends for quite a quite a while 24 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: few years and I have been so intrigued by your background, 25 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: and I actually wanted Ted to come in because I 26 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: don't think Ted has heard the story of your background, 27 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: and I'd love for you to share it with our audience. 28 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: Sure got too, So I served in the Organ Army 29 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: National Guard from eighty three to ninety one. Started from 30 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: a private and got out as a second lieutenant, and 31 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: then spent the next I don't know, it was about 32 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: six or twelve years or so in marketing and ended 33 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: up having a construction company. And then in two thousand 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: and six the doors flew Wyo wide open and I 35 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: was given an opportunity to go to Afghanistan as the 36 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: first fully embedded citizen journalist with the forty first Brigade, 37 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: which was the unit that I worked with where I 38 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: was part of when I was in the National Guard, 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: And so I spent a year over there in the 40 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 2: first year embedded, and I traveled all over Afghanistan. I 41 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: had a very very unique imbed. I was embedded directly 42 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: under General prit which gave me full ability of mobility 43 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: and I could go anywhere I wanted to in the country. 44 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 5: I covered a lot of the conflict. 45 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: My first troops in contact, which I called tick was 46 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: in June. We arrived in Maine. Was in June in 47 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: a little firebase called Carne, which was about the size 48 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: of I don't know, ten humbies across, and we had 49 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: about thirty A and A and it was a week 50 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: of a little over a week of just very very 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: intense fighting. Hakani network was in the area and we 52 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: actually got to the point where the Thursday night before 53 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: we were probably finally pulled out. We had already made 54 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 2: plans to have to go out by foot because things 55 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: were getting that bad. The clip you're showing right now 56 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: is from a contact ahead in July of two thousand 57 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: and six, and this is what the Canadians. I was 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: embedded with them, cross embedded with them, and this was 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: a ten days of operations in Panjuay. This was the 60 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: first footage in contact for the Canadians in the Afghan 61 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: War and it resulted in that footage resulted in an 62 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: Emmy which you see behind me or I guess you can't, 63 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: but I have an Emmy on the shelf behind me, 64 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: which was awarded in two thousand and seven. In two 65 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: thousand and eight, I was given an opportunity to go 66 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: back over and starting as working on a film for 67 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 2: Electronic Arts of California as. 68 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 5: Part of their video game. 69 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: And when I got over there, I was recruited, cross trained, 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: and then brought on board as a contractor for a 71 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: CIA team that was working under Kank Crumpton, and he 72 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: was the Ambassador at large, and so I ended up 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: working there and then eventually moving into being an instructor 74 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: at the Counter Insurgency Training Center in Cobble, and then 75 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: that led to me working directly under General Scott Miller, 76 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: which is he was one of the greatest generals we've 77 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: ever produced, and he came from Jaysok. And the team 78 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: that I was asked to join was a very small, 79 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: hand selected team of special operations called Combined Forces Special 80 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 2: Operations Component Command Afghanistan. We were responsible as about a 81 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: forty to fifty man operational unit. Were one of the 82 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: most significant efforts in the entire Afghan War, which was 83 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: called Village Stability Operations. Again, my mission was all over 84 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: the country. My primary role at that point in time 85 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: was having taken my film skills, building, communication and training 86 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: products for Special Operations Command, but equally I was doing 87 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 2: a lot of direct engagement, so I was working with 88 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: special operations commanders, special forces commanders, and teams, and I was, 89 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: whether it was local villagers or directly dealing with Taliban 90 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: sometimes missions on my own, which we would call Singleton missions. 91 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: I was dealing with Taliban leaders, warlords, a whole variety 92 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: of interesting and sometimes very despicable people. But the whole 93 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: point was to try in the many ways that we 94 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: could to build local capacity so that they would be 95 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: so that they would have their own defense and the role, 96 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: the obvious long term role, was to roll us out 97 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: of Afghanistan. Just to highlight this debacle that ended up 98 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: we classified as Abbey Gate. That's completely a debacle on 99 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: the government political side. Scott Miller had developed an amazing 100 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: transition plan out of the country. And, as we do 101 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: with any great general, the Biden Autopen administration try to 102 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: hang the failure of Afghanistan on Scott Miller's back, which 103 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: is despicable because we really have not had a general 104 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: of that capacity. And I would argue, since Patent he 105 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: was that good, I had the honor of literally working 106 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: with him and advising him on a number of things. 107 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: From there, I went from Afghanistan into working at Fort Meade, 108 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: at a unit called Asymmetric Warfare Group that has since 109 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 2: been disbanded. Disbanded, it was started by all Delta Force 110 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: guys and was originally known as the ID Task Force. 111 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: I was in a special unit there which was called 112 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: Dog Squadron, which was our advanced concepts and integration. So 113 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: we literally had the mission to travel the world and 114 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: look for future and emerging threats, which I did, and 115 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: I was involved in a lot of very interesting projects, 116 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: subterranean warfare, fire and smoke as a weapons system, advanced 117 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: information operations, hype program development, narrative warfare. I could go 118 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: on a list of things. So it was a very 119 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: it was a very active unit. I traveled in South Korea, 120 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: we went to Vietnam, Bosnia, UK, and so we traveled 121 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: a lot of different areas including throughout the United States, 122 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: looking at advanced threats, threats and emerging threats and helping 123 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: build tactics to that what that response was. And then 124 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve I transitioned over to working at the 125 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: government labs with my own defense company, and I worked 126 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: up at a continding arsenal while I guess it was 127 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: starting in about twenty fourteen. I worked there for two 128 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: years and then and was starting to pick up my 129 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: own contracts to work in train special forces teams, which 130 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: I'd been doing on and off since the beginning. The 131 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: one the big change was with the election in twenty 132 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: sixteen and realizing the threat to the nation. I made 133 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: the decision at the end of twenty sixteen to shut 134 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: my defense company down and to go fully into taking 135 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: the skills that I had acquired since two thousand and 136 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: six to bring information warfare knowledge and help build an 137 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: information platform to the public space, because the threat was 138 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: real and still is. We're in a very active war, 139 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: so much of what we are it's an information and 140 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: warfare base operations, and so I've tried to apply those 141 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: skills to building a platform that's not just based on 142 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: just news, but has a lot behind it, a lot 143 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: of skills and knowledge behind it, on building information capacity 144 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: in the patriot movement, building awareness, and equally anchoring people 145 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: in faith. Because if there's one thing that came out 146 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 2: of Afghanistan as a guy who worked heavily in the 147 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 2: information and psyop space, is faith was the hardest wall 148 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: to break through if you're trying to go after a 149 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: public and whether you agree or disagree with Muslim faith. 150 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: I'm not here to make that judgment, though I'm solidly 151 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: a Christian and solidly walk with Jesus. 152 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: My point is that they. 153 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: Were hard to tap because their faith was so disciplined 154 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: and so strong, and it's something that we just don't 155 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: do well in this nation, and it's something. 156 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: That I believe strongly. 157 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: The one thing about your platform versus ours is you 158 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: have our long or ninety minute long conversations. I want 159 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: to bring Ted in for the last minute, but you 160 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: are going to stay with us for two segments because 161 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: I think this story is obviously amazing, But the clincher 162 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: is what you're probably about to segue into and why 163 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: you started your own radio show. But I'm going to 164 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: let Ted have the last minute. 165 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 4: Well, the number one that's very impressive if you're talking 166 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: warlords and danger zone and special operations special Forces. Yeah, well, 167 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: I had a rock and roll band Detroit, Buddy. I mean, 168 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 4: your adventure is substantial, but I had a rock and 169 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 4: roll band Detroit in the nineteen fifty. My point is 170 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: is that Scott, you're doing God's work because the most 171 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: important job of a free man, uniquely to America, is 172 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: to be a cockroach spotlighter, otherwise known as a whistleblower. 173 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 4: So you bring information you have channeled and cultivated and 174 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 4: nurtured and optimized your skills as a man who has 175 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 4: seen the ugliest of the ugly that through your faith 176 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 4: you know the best of the best and the purest 177 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: of the pure. So your experiences around the world dealing 178 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: with military and generals and bureaucrats and government agencies and 179 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: the heroes that put their lives on the line to 180 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: defend freedom qualifies you as the best voice to spotlight 181 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: the cockroaches that surrounded us our American dream right now 182 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: and Schamaine's doing God works. So when we come back 183 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: after this break, I'm going to let you continue to 184 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 4: expose the lessons you've learned and how you are compelled 185 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: through your faith to share them to try to circumvent 186 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: and mitigate others falling off the abyss into evil. 187 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Stand by Scott and everybody else. Don't go away, because 188 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: you're going to want to hear the rest of Scott's story. 189 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: But first I want to direct you to another patriot, 190 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Mike Lindell. Go to my pillow dot com and use 191 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: the promo code faith to get a discount. We've got 192 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: to support patriots, patriot business owners. We'll be right back, 193 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: don't go away. 194 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 6: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside, because it's 195 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 6: the outside is to change the world. 196 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 3: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 197 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 6: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 198 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 6: the outside is to change the world. 199 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 200 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: Fascinating conversations off air as well as on air. But 201 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: Ted and I have something exciting to share with you. 202 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: We created our own pet supplement line because we were 203 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: tired of our dogs not feeling good and not getting 204 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: pure clean health made with bioflavonoids, all natural products, and 205 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: guess what it's called. 206 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: Get Uncle Ted's dot com. I'm not gonna see this 207 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: happy face I am, by the way, I don't want 208 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: to brag, but I'm gonna I am the happiest man 209 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,599 Speaker 4: in the world. Sitting next to her helps but Sadie, 210 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 4: Coco and Jackson. They are providing me the most stimulating, exciting, adventurous, 211 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 4: happy hunting season of my life. Because we love our 212 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: dogs like we love each other. Literally, we have what 213 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 4: do you say, an unhealthy attachment sorry, Actually, our attachment 214 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: to our dogs are extremely healthy. And we saw all 215 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: the poison and the chemical warfare and all the dog 216 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: foods and all the dog supplements. So we got some 217 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: mad scientists that found pure natural, organic, healthy, good for 218 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 4: our dog supplements and vitamins and stuff. Get uncle Ted's 219 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 4: dot com. We believe that our happiness literally pivots on 220 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 4: the health, vitality, energy, and happiness of our dogs, Jackson, 221 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 4: Sadi and Coco. So get uncle Ted's dot com if 222 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 4: you want to experience the ultimate happiness when your dogs 223 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 4: are ultimately happy. 224 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: Okay, now we're back with Scott Kesterson. He's a veteran storyteller, 225 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: a host of Bards FN, and his mission is to 226 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: help Americans reclaim their faith, their courage, and their country. 227 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Scott, thanks for having me back, se mean 228 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: nice to see you all. 229 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: So, Scott, this platform calls for quick conversations. 230 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: We could get you back for two hours. 231 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: Go into if you would, the turning point for you 232 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: why you decided to start this your radio show Bards FM. 233 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: What happened to you when you got thrown in jail? 234 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so that's the whole thing, the long story. 235 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 2: But you know it's in simple terms, there's there's a 236 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: lot to that story. 237 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: I ended up being greeted by. 238 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: A Marshall US Marshal in my hotel room, and I'll 239 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: never forget his words. He said, I read your file. 240 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: Something doesn't add up. Trust me, I'm just a messenger. 241 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: And from there began a wild journey of literally being 242 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: thrown in jail for twenty days. No charges were directly 243 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: given to me. They were publicly announced in thirty different 244 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: media outlets on the same hour. You can draw your 245 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: conclusions on that. And I later found out that I 246 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: was accused of stealing money from my own nonprofit. They 247 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: put me on a two year probation and it was 248 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: from that point that I really said, okay, this is 249 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: I've got to buckle down and really start focusing on 250 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: what I'm here for. I had an tremendous encounter with 251 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: God in jail, which itself is a long story, but 252 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: it was unforgettable, and literally woke up one morning to 253 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: him saying I need you back to storytelling and I 254 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: need you to take this to the world, and I said, okay. 255 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: So that's that was the impetus of the podcast that 256 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: I finished the film which is out and you showed 257 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: it a little bit ago clips from it. There's another 258 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: one still coming, but that was the first of the series. 259 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: And then I started the podcast in spring of twenty 260 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: nineteen with ten one hundred subscribers on YouTube and we 261 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: just last month passed fifty million downloads. So it's God 262 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: blessed and it's literally done a great job. So that's 263 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: the short of it to me. 264 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: Wow. So ultimately, what you experienced got is you put 265 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: your heart and soul and to represent the United States 266 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: of America based on your sacred oath to the US Constitution, 267 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: and you went in believing in our government. And then 268 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: you discovered that your beliefs were misguided or unfounded. And 269 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: now we're coming out when you were thrown in jail, 270 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 4: who was the president at the time. 271 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: That would be That would be Barack Obama. 272 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, well that's why Barack Obama and Eric 273 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: Holders sick their US attorneys on me to destroy my 274 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 4: conservation Second Amendment outdoor lifestyle reputation by sicking and falsely 275 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: charging me and trying to put me in jail and 276 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 4: get me to be a felon so I couldn't vote, 277 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: and I couldn't own guns. But luckily I improvised, adapted, 278 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 4: and overcame and we shut them down because the powers 279 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: that be in the Alaskan courts and the California courts, 280 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: there was a hint of guilt over there. Do you 281 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: find it after you were thrown in jail and you 282 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: got out that there was hope in whether a US 283 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: marshall was saying, I'm just a messenger. I've done raids 284 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: with US Marshalls and FBI and ATF and DEA and shake. 285 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 4: I scold them, and I go, your boss isn't the boss, 286 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: Your commander isn't the boss. Your oath to the Constitution 287 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: is your boss. And by pounding that out with my 288 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 4: crowbar of truth, logic and common sense, I galvanized some 289 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: support around me. Did you experience that where you got 290 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: support where you didn't think you would? 291 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think what you learned real quickly is who 292 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: your true friend friends are. And I just want to 293 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: highlight this. I had a huge rolodex going before going in. 294 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 2: When I came out, that got pared down very quickly. 295 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: People like to say they know you until there's a 296 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 2: little bump in the road. There are three people that 297 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: stood by my side like tight and never ever let 298 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: me go. And I want to highlight this because of 299 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: who they represent. All three of them were Delta Force. 300 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: One of them was a master's metic sniper. Two of 301 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: the others were sergeant major's in Delta Force. All three 302 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,199 Speaker 2: of them I'd worked with, and I will tell you 303 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: through thicker thin to this very day, they never waiver. 304 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: They are at my side and if I need anything 305 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: as as reciprocal they need anything, we hold tight. So 306 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: it speaks deeply to the real oath that we take 307 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: in this nation and what it is to stand by 308 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 2: one another depending no matter what happens. 309 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: Yes, we experienced that too, Mitch Moore and Scott Young 310 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: and Ross Patterson Texas. I mean the California Fishing Game 311 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 4: whenever they raided their homes pre dawned with fifty two 312 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: agents from the US Fish and Wildlife Service. The accusation, 313 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: the false accusation, was that I was hunting over bait 314 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 4: in California. The same year I got Conservationists of the 315 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 4: Year from the Director of Fishing Game. These people are 316 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 4: so hypocritical, but they literally held a gun to my 317 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: friend's head based on an allegation of a misdemeanor that 318 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 4: I hunted over bait when I killed a beautiful black 319 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 4: tail between an orchard and a water trough. And I 320 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: suppose that might be considered bait, but it's perfectly legal. 321 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: I had the right licenses, the right weapon, the right zone, 322 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 4: the right time of year, and they just wanted to 323 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: destroy me. It sounds like that's what they were doing 324 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 4: to you very. 325 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 5: Much, sony. 326 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: And the proof of putting is two years after I 327 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: was thrown in jail, all the same prosecuting attorney literally 328 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: looked at me and said, we'll get you out of 329 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: here a court real quick and get everything back in 330 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 2: your life. They threw out all charges and sealed. The 331 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: judge sealed the case literally said to me, do you 332 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: have eighty dollars in your pocket? I said, yes, she 333 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 2: goes go downstairs right now, come back up. Don't even 334 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: bother to worry about formalities. 335 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 5: Raise your hand. 336 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: I'll have you delivered the receipt to the court clerk 337 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: and we will seal your case by the end of 338 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 2: the day. So I think that speaks volumes because for 339 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: all of the media attack and when I highlighted that point, 340 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: when you get thirty stories released in an hour. 341 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 5: If you know anything about. 342 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: Information warfare and the coordination of media, that's not accidental 343 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: to say it that, yeah. 344 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 5: You know. 345 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: This show, but I'm so intrigued, but I want to 346 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to have Ted come in. 347 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: We could talk to you. In fact, you're going to 348 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: come on and we're just going. 349 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 7: To do the whole hour. 350 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: Yes, but I really wanted in the last couple of 351 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: minutes we have, Scott, I want to get to the 352 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: part of the matter, and that's having faith in America 353 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: when everything and you've experienced it, we've experienced it, when 354 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: everything seems like the world is upside down. 355 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: Where do we go from here? 356 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: Scott? 357 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: Look, it's real simple, and we've got to stay in 358 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: the word. You've got to stay focused on Christ. And 359 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: you really have to spend time each day quietly just 360 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 2: clearing your mind and meditating and put Christ before you. 361 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: There's many different ways people experience that head. You do 362 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: it in hunting, Others do it in sitting in a church. 363 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: Others do sitting in their living room or their room quietly. 364 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: We have got to make sure that we are grounded 365 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: because right now we're heading into an extremely divisive and 366 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: chaos environment where truth is being pluralized and confused with 367 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence, and it's being done intentionally. So the biggest 368 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 2: thing is get grounded. You have to have a mission 369 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: each day of what you're. 370 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 5: Going to do. 371 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: You have to be in real world, not in imaginary 372 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: world on the web, limit your time on the social 373 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: media stuff, and get into the real space of doing things. 374 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: And that's going to be one of the biggest foundations 375 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 2: of what we do here going forward day away from 376 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 2: the political chaos, because it's all gamemanship right now. Everybody's 377 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: trying to get control of your mind, and that's the goal, 378 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: and no one has sovereignty over your mind except yourself. 379 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 4: I think that's what we've been preaching Chamaane's faith and freedom. 380 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 4: So everybody watching right now, be sure you tell everybody 381 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: you know there is a real America's voice. There is 382 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: a Scott Kesterson podcast, there's a Ted Nugent's Spirit campfire. Truth, 383 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: logic and common sense is ubiquitous, but it's being destroyed 384 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 4: by the government, media, academia, the global considerations. But we 385 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 4: the people grounded. I've preached grounded and down to earth 386 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 4: for the last seventy years that's what my spirit of 387 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: the wild is all about. So Scott, diddo, diddo, diddo, 388 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 4: quote quote quote, You're right on track, and I think 389 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 4: people are learning and because of Chamaine's faith and freedom, 390 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 4: they've they've been guided down a true North compass setting 391 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 4: all these years. And we're not going to give up, 392 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: just like you. 393 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: I don't know, never can't. 394 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: And that's that's I think that's the last word on 395 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 2: that said, never give up, even when everything is you're 396 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: sitting in the jail cell. It's a long story, but anyway, 397 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: that whole one, never give up because God's got you 398 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: and you're going to be able. 399 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 5: Never give up. 400 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: I got a go ahead, great jail story in a loin. 401 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 8: Cloth, I could actually outrank you guys when it comes 402 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 8: to felons. I could actually, I don't know if you 403 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 8: know the story, Scott. 404 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: Well, she's my wife. You can imagine. Yeah, I imagine 405 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 4: the loin cloth. 406 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: No, not the loincloth thing. 407 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: But I actually accidentally brought a gun to the airport. 408 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: I had a death, very serious death threats. I was arrested, 409 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: So I thank you guys. 410 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 4: She did not handle it well. I did not want to, 411 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 4: but I'd make a long story short because I know 412 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 4: you'd be fascinated by this. I was doing the state 413 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 4: fare op in Michigan, the cherry Fill Traverse City, I 414 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: want second, and I got arrested for a concealed weapon felony. 415 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: You because I had a hunting night that was exposed 416 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 4: with why the cops saw it. He put me in 417 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 4: the drunk tank with a bunch of migrant cherry pickers 418 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: and I had to fight them for toilet paper wearing 419 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: nothing but a loincloth. Scott, you got the. 420 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: Last ten seconds, go for it. 421 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 5: All I'm going to say is Uncle Ted wins the day. 422 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 5: That's it, right, And that's not. 423 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: My best story. 424 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 5: Scott. 425 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 8: We love you, Thank you, love me, Thank you so much, Scott, 426 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 8: God bless you. 427 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 5: Thanks guys, love you both. Give him by. 428 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 3: We'll be right back. Don't go away. 429 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 6: Well there's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 430 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 6: the outside is to change the world. 431 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 432 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 6: Well, there's the opportunity to be an outside because it's 433 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 6: the outside is to change the world. 434 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 435 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Did you know that we all have two ages? Our 436 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: actual age. I'm sixty three, and then our bodies internal 437 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: biological age. What I didn't know that I have likely 438 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: lowered my biological age without even knowing it. But here's 439 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: the thing. Most Americans eat too much processed food and 440 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: not enough fruits and veggies, and that means a lot 441 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: of us are ten, maybe twenty years older on the 442 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: inside than our real age. It's like a ticking time bomb. 443 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: But a major university study says there's a way to 444 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: diffuse that bomb, and people who drink what I drink 445 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: Field of Greens actually slowed their aging. They didn't change 446 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: or diet radically or radically start exercising, just this one shift. 447 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: Every fruit and veggie and Field of Greens is doctors 448 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: selected for specific benefits. And if you're looking to feel 449 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: better and age slower, Field of Greens is where I 450 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: would start. Swap your untested green dream for something that 451 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: actually works. And you can check out the study and 452 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: get twenty percent off at code freedom at Fieldofgreens dot 453 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: com at fieldfgreens dot com and the promo code is freedom. 454 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: My next guest has been in the front lines of 455 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: one of the most politically charged cases in our nation's history. 456 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: We've spoken with him before about his prosecution and persecution 457 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: on January sixth, but today he's back to share where 458 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: God has led him since then. Welcome back, Trennis Evans. 459 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 9: Well, thanks Jamaine, thank you so much for having me. 460 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 9: It's always great to be here. Get to see Uncle 461 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 9: Ted here backstage for a couple of minutes. Always good 462 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 9: to be with you guys. 463 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 10: You know, a lot of people don't know how much 464 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 10: how much you guys were a part of that. 465 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 9: You spoke out for the January sixth defendants and the 466 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 9: atrocities that were going on there, related to the prosecutions 467 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 9: that reeked of impropriety, etc. And not only that, but 468 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 9: I'll never forget boots on the sand event, and Ted 469 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 9: made it a point. You and Ted put that together 470 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 9: and you had it happened that the national anthem was 471 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 9: performed at nine o'clock for the January sixth defendants and 472 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 9: solidarity with those that were languishing in the prisons and 473 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 9: the gulags in DC. 474 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 10: And other places around the country. So thank you as 475 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 10: always for that. 476 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: Per your request, per your request, and you know what 477 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: trying to it's kind of it's a small request for 478 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: those of us who stood back helplessly watched you mercilessly 479 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: be thrown in prison and talk about your experience and 480 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: what your life has been like since all of that. 481 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 9: Well, you know, look, Chamane, it's really obvious that God 482 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 9: had a plan. And in my situation, what I've experienced 483 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 9: individually was the scenario where I had one of the 484 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 9: lesser aces of it and I was charged with the 485 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 9: fifteen twelve. I went through a lot with January sixth, 486 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 9: my home was raided my family at gunpoint for leading 487 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 9: the National Anthem and the Pledge of allegiance inside the building. 488 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 9: I never harmed anyone. I never destroyed any property, never 489 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 9: touched anything. 490 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 10: That didn't belong to me. I simply went in saying the. 491 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 9: National Anthem, led the Pledge of Allegiance and spoke out 492 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 9: for the police, said don't harm the police, don't damage 493 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 9: the building at nauseum on a megaphone, and is all 494 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 9: in my documents. They agreed that that's exactly what happened, 495 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 9: exactly the way I'm stating it. 496 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 10: Yet all of a sudden, it was. 497 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 9: Like the crime of the century and I was facing 498 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 9: twenty three years in prison. I couldn't even understand what 499 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 9: was going on in the United States of America, how 500 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 9: this peaceful demonstration was somehow part of an insurrection. It 501 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 9: never made sense. You couldn't make it make sense. But 502 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 9: you know, thankfully now I'm now running the American Rights 503 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 9: Alliance as the COO. We have a great new show 504 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 9: on Real America's Voice, The Case for America. 505 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 10: So much has happened. When I thought it was dark 506 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 10: and I thought things were. 507 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 9: Just it was insurmountable and I was looking at you know, 508 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 9: like this, I can't climb this wall. 509 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 10: How am I going to do this? What am I 510 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 10: going to do? 511 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 5: God? 512 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 10: How am I going to get somewhere in this new life? 513 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 10: And here I am. I just it's amazing. 514 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 9: And I hope that the January sixth defendants are finding 515 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 9: their way and finding their footing individually as we all are, 516 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 9: because there's so many other people. There's so much happening 517 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 9: in this country that has happened to individuals and not 518 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 9: just January sixth defendants. And that's what we do now 519 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 9: at American Rights Alliance is to represent those individuals. 520 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: Well, God bless you. And there are still some in prison, right, yeah. 521 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 9: Dan Wilson, So we've had Dan Wilson since twenty twenty two. 522 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 9: Dan and I became friends in this process, and then 523 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 9: I've met the man in person and we started working 524 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 9: on his case together. And then once he was out, 525 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 9: he was actually released by Judge Friedrick, my judge saying 526 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 9: like everyone else, and then Judge Friedrich determined that there 527 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 9: was a method for sending Dan Wilson back to prison. April, 528 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 9: and early April he went back to prison. He's still there. 529 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 9: We're still waiting on the administration to get the pardon done. 530 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 9: Judge denin Piro has said that as the Attorney General 531 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 9: or excuse me, as the US attorney in the District 532 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 9: of Columbia, that the pardon applies, and that they not 533 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 9: going to represent that the DJ is not going to 534 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 9: generate resources for the court, and the judge has selected 535 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 9: Supreme Court Justice clerks to come in and represent the case. 536 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 10: Now, it's absolute insanity when the. 537 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 9: Department of Justice says the crime that there's no crime, 538 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 9: that the individual has a pardon, and yet here we are, 539 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 9: this is what's happening today in America. 540 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: And we know that there have been there were FEDS 541 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: there undercover feds. We know that there were operatives there 542 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: watching and maybe they're the ones that were inciting. 543 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: I mean, we all know. 544 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't know if I can 545 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: name names on here, but you know who I'm talking about. 546 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: How come they're having any arrests on that front? 547 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 9: Trennis, Well, I'm laughing at this because you know, I'm 548 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 9: not laughing at your question, but I'm laughing at this 549 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 9: that we said long ago. 550 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 10: So I was with Colonel Phil Waldron and many others 551 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 10: back in. 552 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 9: Like twenty twenty two, and we sat down, we started 553 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 9: going through these different FEDS, right, like the people that 554 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 9: we have this like, who are these hundred and forty people? 555 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 9: They haven't been arrested? What is it they're doing? Why 556 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 9: not that we wanted more people arrested. I don't think 557 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 9: anyone should have been arrested, hardly. I mean, maybe a 558 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 9: small handful of people, but at any rate, the reality 559 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 9: is is that we wanted to get to the bottom 560 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 9: of who these people were. We had identified, with Brad 561 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 9: Geyer and others, over one hundred and forty of these 562 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 9: people that were right in the midst of things, that 563 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 9: were instigating things. 564 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 10: That never got charged with the crime. 565 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 9: And we believe those people to be federal agents. But 566 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 9: what everyone is getting their head wrapped around is that, yeah, 567 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 9: there's two hundred and seventy four admitted FBI agents. Now 568 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 9: after Christopher Ray live to the American people for four 569 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 9: straight years, that we now know that there was two 570 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 9: hundred and seventy four FBI agents present on the grounds, 571 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 9: mixed in the crowd with the January sixth dependants. It 572 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 9: goes along with what was being said about the bus 573 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 9: loads of men that we've heard about over a long 574 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 9: period of time. It goes along with the idea that 575 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 9: there were people dressed as Trump supporters in the Capitol 576 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 9: ahead of the January sixth so called insurrection. All of 577 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 9: this plays into this reality that we're now finding out 578 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 9: because we now have leadership at the DOJ and leadership 579 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 9: at the FBI that's coming clean and telling the truth, 580 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 9: which is what the American people deserve. Whi's not supposed 581 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 9: to be when they want to tell it, or the 582 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 9: narrative they want to tell, it's supposed to be the truth. 583 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 9: And thank god for Dan Bongino and Cashptel for exposing 584 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 9: that Agpam Bondi and even so many other people, but 585 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 9: Ed Martin is taking. 586 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 10: This on at the weaponization. 587 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 9: They're looking at it, and you've got Loudermilks launching a committee. 588 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,239 Speaker 10: A lot is happening now, but don't lose sight of this. 589 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 9: I want to remind our viewers here, your viewers, Shamaine, 590 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 9: that when. 591 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 10: It comes to the FEDS, don't get caught up in 592 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 10: just the FBI. 593 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 9: There's DHS, there's SEES, there's DNI, all of the other 594 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 9: three letter agencies. I promise you they had hands in this. 595 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 9: I promise you they had agents on the ground. I'm 596 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 9: not saying that what they did was wrong. Don't know 597 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 9: the content of their actions. However, don't be fooled, don't 598 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 9: miss be mistaken if you don't find that there's probably 599 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 9: five hundred to one thousand agents of the United States 600 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 9: government and part police from DC, MPD, undercover units, et cetera, 601 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 9: et cetera, just like we exposed in the Proud Boys trial. 602 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 9: You had me on a long time years ago. We 603 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 9: talked about that when we exposed the thirteen agents from 604 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 9: the Narcotics Unit of MPD that were actually at telling 605 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 9: people go forward, hurry up, go go go. There's no 606 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 9: doubt that what those people did was incite and that 607 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 9: was as Stopple and Trapman, etc. 608 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 5: Etc. 609 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 9: So there's a lot of concepts and a lot of 610 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 9: legal concepts and a lot of civil actions going to 611 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 9: be coming on these matters in the very near. 612 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 3: Future, I hope. 613 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: So, Trena, in our last two minutes, let's segue into 614 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: something positive. How can you encourage people who are going 615 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: through difficult times to get through it and lean. 616 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: On their faith? 617 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 10: Oh wow, that's a great one, Chamaine. 618 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 9: So let me tell you that I found great solace 619 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 9: and support and community in the Word of Fay Fellowship 620 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 9: Church and in North Carolina. I had a fantastic experience there. 621 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 9: It was mesmerizing, it was eye opening. And when I 622 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 9: went into Federal Court, I kneeled and I put an 623 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 9: oiy oil on my shoes and I claimed that land 624 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 9: for the Lord. And it felt so good and I 625 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 9: was so relieved. And it was watching the children dancing 626 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 9: through the aisles as David did, and the men and 627 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 9: the women dancing through this church. It gave me such energy. 628 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 9: It was the last place I was before I went 629 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 9: to court, and that moment was such a defining moment 630 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 9: for me because I let it all go, all of 631 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 9: the part about what I didn't know, all of the unknown, 632 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 9: all of the fear just dissipated, and I just said, 633 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 9: I'm going to live in the truth. 634 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 10: I'm going to let this case, this instance, this. 635 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 9: Time in my life live in the light of the truth, 636 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 9: which is the Lord's truth, right, that is where we 637 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 9: get it. So in that moment, everything it was so 638 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 9: freeing and I stopped caring, and it was amazing. My 639 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 9: attorney said, after what I got done saying to the 640 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 9: judge and how the back and forth went that I 641 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 9: was going to do, he was like, they're going to 642 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 9: tell you to take off your shoes and your belt. 643 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 9: You're probably going to get like eight months. I ended 644 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 9: up getting one of the shortest sentences after that. And 645 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 9: I think even that judge, the truth pierced her, that 646 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 9: truth and God's light pierced into that judge's heart, and 647 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 9: she just didn't have a choice but to make the 648 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 9: right ruling or a much better ruling that should have 649 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 9: been as stereotypically for the January sixth. 650 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 3: Community, Oh, I love that well. 651 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't love that you had to be involved in 652 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: it in the first place, but thank you for sharing 653 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: your testimony with us. Trennis in the last twenty seconds. 654 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: Where can people find you and watch your new show 655 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: here on Real America's Voice. 656 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, oh my gosh, The Case for America is such 657 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 9: a great show. 658 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 10: Evan Turk and I are doing a great job with 659 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 10: that show. We really love it. 660 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 9: The great crew at Rav, Dave Brown's amazing, George and 661 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 9: Rob say, of course, Parker, I mean. 662 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 10: It's just amazing how they've put this together. 663 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 9: They've made some guys that are not TV guys into 664 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 9: TV guys. 665 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 10: I mean, hats off to them. But you can find 666 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 10: that at Rav and then you can find me. 667 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 9: You can follow me at Condemned USA on X and 668 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 9: of course please follow American Rights Alliance. 669 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 10: Now you're looking iy that picture there. 670 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 9: I got to say something about this, Jamaine, tell me 671 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 9: I got ten seconds. John Woods, Arkansas State Senator. He 672 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 9: was persecuted by Jack Smith. We know Jack Smith. President 673 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 9: Trump knows who Jack Smith is. This man belongs out 674 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 9: of prison. He should not be there. He's been there 675 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 9: seven years by bop neglect. He now has a pacemaker 676 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 9: at a rip ol day age of like forty four 677 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 9: years old. 678 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 10: Worse than that. 679 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 9: The FBI agent, agent Robert Csario pled guilty after his trial, 680 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 9: after he was sentenced after his appeal. 681 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 10: Pled guilty to the destruction of evidence. 682 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 9: In that case, the destruction of evidence is a Brady violation. 683 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 10: That man should be walking. 684 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 9: Free, and it was another Jacksmith trumped up prosecution that 685 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 9: was long before the days of going after Donald Trump. 686 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: Trynis, thank you so much for joining me. God bless you. 687 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 3: Stay well, thank you, don't go away everyone, We'll be 688 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: right back. 689 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 6: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outsider, because it's 690 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 6: the outsiders to change the world. 691 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 3: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 692 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 6: Well, it's the opportunity to be an outsider because it's 693 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 6: the outsiders to change the world. 694 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this. 695 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back. My next guest has been putting himself into 696 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: the middle of the action to show Americans what's really 697 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: happening on our streets. He's been undercover at Chicago protest, 698 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: coming face to face with Antifa and radical groups to 699 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: capture the truth with his camera. He's worked alongside journalists 700 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: like Ben Berkwam, I didn't say that right, and documenting 701 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: the violence, confrontations, and threats that most networks don't touch 702 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: Terry Newsom, welcome to faith and Freedom. 703 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 3: Welcome back, I should say, thank you for having me 704 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: back from me. 705 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: So what did you see in the latest Antifa uproar. 706 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 11: Yeah, so we had the No Kings, We have the 707 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 11: Chicago Ice Facility, the broad View Facility, and then we 708 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 11: had the No Kings back in June. I was at 709 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 11: all of those multiple times. And then you see the 710 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 11: Antifa guys. You can tell the difference between who was 711 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 11: like the full time anarchist, paid agitators, Jeremy and Jason 712 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 11: Hammond who's been arrested multiple times. 713 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 7: They're like that. I call them the Chicago. 714 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 11: Terror cells of Antifa, right, they're full time agitators. Then 715 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,840 Speaker 11: you have kind of misfits that want to be Antifa 716 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 11: on the outskirts. And then their goal in these different 717 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 11: events from the DNC when me and Ben covered them 718 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 11: as well, they try to agitate the broader group of 719 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 11: the same people that had the same type of ideology, right, 720 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 11: So they try to agitate, create crimes vandalism, you know, 721 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 11: verbally yell and swear at the police and then get 722 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 11: in some cases get arrested. So I caught them on 723 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 11: video throwing bricks through tesla windows, which coincidentally, there is 724 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 11: a tesla placed right in front of a federal building 725 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 11: during one of their protests in a business district, which 726 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 11: I thought was really really odd. So they come with 727 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 11: their backpacks and they have rocks and you know, different 728 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 11: types of weapons and stuff that they carry with them 729 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 11: to create vandalism throughout the way, including spray painting on 730 00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 11: police viickles as well. 731 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: And you said that ICE agents nearly shot you while 732 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 1: you were undercover. What happened with that? 733 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, so I got drank. 734 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 11: So the reason I dressed similar to them is so 735 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 11: that I can get them to talk to me, right, 736 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 11: not necessarily the anarchists, the real ones, but the other 737 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 11: clowns that are in the group, right, so they think 738 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 11: I'm one of them, so I could talk to them. 739 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 11: So I was at the ICE facility going from the 740 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 11: northern part to the southern part and on twenty fifth Street, 741 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,840 Speaker 11: and they had it that it changed sometimes daily in 742 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 11: how they lay out their perimeters, right. 743 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 7: So I'm cutting through the grass around. 744 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 11: The building and they had one of their little military vehicles. 745 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 7: And three of them. 746 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 11: I walk out and they had their their their they say, 747 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 11: their weapons right there. 748 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 7: They aimed guns at me. 749 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 11: They're they're basically pepper pepper gun, pepper bunk cup all guns. 750 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 7: And they had them all aimed at me, and I'm like, 751 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 7: hold on on, I'm with you, meaning I'm on our side. 752 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 7: I'm not with you know, I'm not an Antifa guy. 753 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 11: And they're like, stay back, stay back, and they got 754 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 11: they had their their guns aimed at me, and I, 755 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 11: you know, I quickly step back before I got shot. 756 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's no, it's like a paintball, you know. 757 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 3: You got shot with me. 758 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: So at one point, Terry, do you do you just go, Okay, 759 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: that's it. 760 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 4: I'm done. 761 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 3: This is getting a little bit too real. 762 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 10: Yeah. 763 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 7: No, I mean yes I do. Do I get nervous. 764 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 7: I mean you're in the middle. 765 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 11: You know. I go by myself a lot. I mean, 766 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 11: you know, like me and Ben go together when he's 767 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 11: in town, but I go a lot by myself. And 768 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 11: the last time I did have some issues, they identified 769 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 11: me pretty quickly and started taking my pictures and getting 770 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 11: around me. So yes, I do get nervous, but no, 771 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 11: because I think I believe in my heart, I'm sixty 772 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 11: four years old. By the way, I shouldn't be doing 773 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 11: this at my age. But we're in a war, we're 774 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 11: losing the war, and people don't know, not enough p 775 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 11: I cannot get fathers to show up the school board 776 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 11: to hold my posters and stuff. When I was my 777 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 11: kids just graduated high school, and I needed fathers to 778 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 11: help me show the posters of the nasty books in 779 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 11: our kids' schools. They were scared to They were scared 780 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 11: to either be targeted, be targeted by anteeth for their 781 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 11: jobs a variety of different reasons. And they have to 782 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 11: understand is that we're in a war and we need 783 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 11: to expose this stuff. The media doesn't cover this stuff, 784 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 11: as you know. That's why having shows like here's a 785 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 11: Mine are, you know, give the given opportunity to show 786 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 11: really what's happening within in our country, within Chicago. My 787 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 11: show is called behind enemy Lines for a reason. It's 788 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 11: a communist state of Illinois. We are behind enemy lines. 789 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,479 Speaker 11: I was at Christine Olme event all protesters. I happen 790 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 11: to be on my way to my real job, and 791 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 11: I found out they were in Lombard and I go 792 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 11: there and I'm filming them by myself. 793 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 7: I was not I wasn't there. 794 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,399 Speaker 11: Only ten seconds, I'm being assaulted by a big two 795 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 11: hundred pounding Atifa chick. You could tell the difference in 796 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 11: how they act and handle and run. You know, she's 797 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 11: definitely one of the inner circle ones and starts hitting 798 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 11: me and grabbing my phone. I file a report with 799 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 11: the police democratic you know city there. 800 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 7: They don't do anything. They don't do anything, you know. 801 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 11: So it's like, you know, they got the government on 802 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 11: them on their side, especially within the city limits of Chicago. 803 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 11: And then you get the state police, which is owned 804 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 11: by Pritzker. So we are fighting to expose the truth here. 805 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 11: And if we don't do people like us you meet 806 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 11: Ben and others, they're not going to see it. They're 807 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 11: only going to see the snapshot of trying to make 808 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 11: Ice look like the enemies, right, That's all they're going 809 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 11: to see. 810 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: Well, thank you for what you're doing, for being bold 811 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: and braving and so courageous. 812 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,959 Speaker 3: How can people follow you and watch your show? 813 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm at Terry Newsom three fifty seven T E 814 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 11: R I N E W S ME three fifty seven. 815 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 11: I'm my ghetter and rumble and so forth under behind 816 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 11: the Kney lines. You know, when I show this stuff, 817 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 11: on X and Ben Ben does as well. You know, 818 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 11: I have so much video of these guys creating violence 819 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 11: and harassing and tacking, targeting parents. That's part of what 820 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 11: Antifa does is they go away and they try they 821 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 11: try to scare it and it works here in Illinois, 822 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 11: right They try to intimidate and scare us into hiding 823 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 11: into silence. 824 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 7: It's happening all the. 825 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 11: Time throughout the host Chicagoland area. 826 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: Under my neck is sore because I'm just always shaking 827 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: it like this is just so unbelievable. But thank you 828 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: for doing what you're doing. God bless you, and hope 829 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: you can come back soon with better news. Thank you, 830 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: God bless Okay, we're gonna. 831 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 3: Lighten it up. 832 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: We had some fun today, serious topics, but I always 833 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,360 Speaker 1: have to end the show with something to make you smile. 834 00:43:23,440 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 3: So take a look, Michael, Are you done? Oh, she's 835 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 3: not done yet. 836 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: Okay, come on, be honest. That had to make you smile, right. 837 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: Do you know what they're saying parkour, that's some kind 838 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: of aerobic acrobatic thing that people do, but I think 839 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: they were just saying that dogs do it too. And 840 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: it seems like every time I give my dogs a bath. 841 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: They hate it during the bath, but that's what they do. 842 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 1: They run around and spit around before there I go. 843 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to thank you all so very much for 844 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: joining me. It really means a lot to me to 845 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: have this show, to have real America's voice on my side, 846 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: and to give me a platform. I've been so shadow band. 847 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: But you can follow me on social media. I'm on 848 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: Instagram at Schamain Nugent. I'm on Facebook Chamaine dot Nugent, 849 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: also X and YouTube at slash Chamaine. But I also 850 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: wanted to share a few of my favorite things with you. 851 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: And these aren't just products that I'm trying to promote. 852 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: I use these products. I actually love them. And if 853 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: you haven't read my books, you can get Abundantly Well 854 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 1: and Killer House, both available on Amazon. So here are 855 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: some of the products that I use. One is row 856 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: Casa Rowe row Casa ORGANICX. 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Those were books that I wrote because I 874 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 1: wanted to share my tragedy with you of losing my 875 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: home that was once featured on MTV Cribs to toxic mold. 876 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: I got sick and almost died and no doctors could 877 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: help me. So if you're wondering if your home has mold, 878 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,720 Speaker 1: it probably does, get Killer House. And then the follow 879 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,240 Speaker 1: up book is Abundantly Well. So now that you're getting healthy, 880 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: you know how to exercise, what to do, and it's 881 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: also Abundantly Well. Is the forty day wellness devotional, so 882 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: I've got lots of prayers in there as well. Thank 883 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,439 Speaker 1: you so much everyone for joining me. I'll be here 884 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 1: every week, and I hope you will too. Remember Esther 885 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: four fourteen reminds us hey, if you stay silent, like 886 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,439 Speaker 1: all of the people on this show, we're all here 887 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: because of Esther four fourteen. If we stay silent, relief 888 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: may or may not come. 889 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 3: Who knows. 890 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: If you have come to the Kingdom for such a 891 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: time as this, I think you have. 892 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,399 Speaker 3: God bless you. 's see you next week. 893 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 6: Rellish the opportunity to be an outside as it's the 894 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 6: outside has to change the world. 895 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 3: Perhaps you were born for such a time as this.