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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know from house stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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Speaker 1: With me is part of your cabin Cruise Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant building the whole thing out is our pilot

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Speaker 1: Jerry Rowland, Captain Jars as we'll call her from now on.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to return your seat to its full

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Speaker 1: upright position, but along with your trade table. If you've

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Speaker 1: lost your device or phone in the seat, don't touch it,

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Speaker 1: just come get one of us. Did that happen to you?

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Speaker 1: It's a new thing. What uh? No, it's like a

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Speaker 1: new thing on on Delta. And like the safety instructions,

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Speaker 1: they actually take a little time to say. If you've

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Speaker 1: lost your tablet or phone in your seat, don't adjust it,

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Speaker 1: Come get a flight attendant. What do you mean lust

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Speaker 1: in the seat? What do they mean? Like if you

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Speaker 1: have If you're sitting there and you've got the butter

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Speaker 1: of fingers and you know, like you turn into Jerry Lewis,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden your phone slides down into the

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Speaker 1: seat beside you or in between the seat next to you.

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Speaker 1: Your phone is in grave danger. If you adjust your

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Speaker 1: seat back upright again, like I say, get a flight attendant,

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Speaker 1: because they now have additional skills in their repertoire to

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Speaker 1: get your tablet or phone outside. So at some point

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Speaker 1: a memo went out to these airlines. It said, we're

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Speaker 1: breaking cell phones because people are like, well, maybe if

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Speaker 1: I just throw my seat up, it'll pop out, It'll

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Speaker 1: shoot right out. Like I, like, I pressed rewind on

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Speaker 1: life weird anyway, this is stuff you should know the

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Speaker 1: I thought, that's pretty interesting actually, and it gave me

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Speaker 1: even more of an appreciation for flight attendance. Yes, then

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Speaker 1: I had already gained over my years. Yeah, because if

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Speaker 1: you're one of those puts is who's mean to flight

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Speaker 1: attendance you get off the plane, you're jerk. Shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: mean to people anyway. Like everybody's walking around carrying their

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Speaker 1: own burden that you're totally unaware of. And if you're

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Speaker 1: mean to somebody usually is because you're not getting what

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Speaker 1: you right then. So if everybody can just calm down

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Speaker 1: and be nice to each other, that's great, But be

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Speaker 1: extra nice to the flight attendants. And if you don't

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Speaker 1: agree with me, now, I guarantee you'll agree with us

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Speaker 1: at the end of the podcast, and even even in

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Speaker 1: our own article here there was a interview with the

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Speaker 1: flight attendant a couple of them, a couple of them,

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Speaker 1: but one of them very you know. One of these

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Speaker 1: vets said, yeah, you know, back in the day, everyone

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Speaker 1: was all excited when they flew, they were going someplace fun.

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Speaker 1: Now everyone's crabby. Yeah, but she makes a really good

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Speaker 1: point why. She says it's because this is all post

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Speaker 1: nine eleven, that the added layers of security that they've

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Speaker 1: put onto getting from your car onto the plane increases

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Speaker 1: stress so much that you're exhausted by the time you

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Speaker 1: get onto the plane, and flying has become a chore,

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Speaker 1: a task. The seats have gotten way smaller. I do

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Speaker 1: by that the leg room has gotten smaller. Um, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that it's just kind of become or of like,

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Speaker 1: let's get from pointing to point B. Yeah, I taking

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Speaker 1: your shoes off, taking your laptop out, it's about all

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Speaker 1: the extra security. No big deal, that's what I say.

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Speaker 1: Did I tell you I've gotten kind of on board

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Speaker 1: your train about taking your shoes off on a flight?

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Speaker 1: Oh to not do it? Yeah? Good, So every once

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Speaker 1: in a while, just be like, to hell with that.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm taking my shoes off. I know

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Speaker 1: my feet don't stink, but I understand that there's people

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Speaker 1: like you out there who are deeply offended by that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. So I typically do leave them on

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Speaker 1: unless my dogs are just yapping so so loud. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't ignore it. But it's pretty rare these days.

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Speaker 1: I think my deal with that is is, uh, you

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Speaker 1: can't count on everyone's feet to not stink, And I

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Speaker 1: think plenty of people are like, I don't care that

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Speaker 1: their feet stink. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty rotten. I just

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Speaker 1: want to be comfy. That's pretty rotten. But we live

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Speaker 1: in something called society. There are rules. But getting back

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Speaker 1: to the new regulations, which is pretty much laptop out,

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Speaker 1: not a it's not an event like it was. It

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Speaker 1: definitely used to be an event in a person's life

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Speaker 1: to go on an airplane. Well, do you have a

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Speaker 1: As far as the airport goes, yea, and how you

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Speaker 1: feel about it the same same stress. Yes, a lot,

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Speaker 1: in a large part. But it does seem like much

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Speaker 1: more a process than it was before. Okay, how about you.

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Speaker 1: You're fine with it? Yeah, I mean it's no big deal,

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Speaker 1: and Leisure article about flight attendants, um where where the

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Speaker 1: author was saying, or I think she was quoting a

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Speaker 1: flight attendant who was saying, like, we've all kind of

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Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be this luxury experience, and as

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Speaker 1: a result, the price of an airline ticket has come

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Speaker 1: down dramatically, has compared to the golden age of flying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think much less than it wasn't say, like the sixties.

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Speaker 1: But in the sixties they were cutting like um like

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Speaker 1: I think it's funny that that's the definition of fancy

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Speaker 1: The guy had the hat and everything. Yeah, well you

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Speaker 1: us take our shoes off while we eat our carvon meat.

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Speaker 1: But there there used to be that they were like

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Speaker 1: that it's gone is because we've all said no, we

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Speaker 1: want we want to be able to travel for less

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Speaker 1: cost with fewer frills. Yeah, I just kind of want

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Speaker 1: to get there. I'm with you. There if that's what

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Speaker 1: Maybe throw a whiskey down my throat, and that's about all.

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Speaker 1: But the people who are going to help you get

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Speaker 1: their job has changed over time, but they have not

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Speaker 1: because they are unsung heroes and have been from beginning

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Speaker 1: to end. That's right. The early days of plane travel,

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Speaker 1: they hired young men to take care of the stewardship

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Speaker 1: And then this this woman came along and you dug

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Speaker 1: I have an idea Boeing air Transport, who would become

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Speaker 1: United Airlines. Why don't you hire eight women to take

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Speaker 1: by eighteen years. A German Man named Heinrich Cubis who

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Speaker 1: was the world's first flight attendant and he worked Zeppelin's

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Speaker 1: including the graph Zeppelin and the Hindenburg. Really did he

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Speaker 1: die on the Hindenburg? He left. Very few people died

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Speaker 1: our many, many, many short lived video series. Oh right,

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Speaker 1: of course. So at any rate, Ellen Church changed the

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Speaker 1: like those limits you talk about. Technically they're still around.

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Speaker 1: There are weight limits and height limits, but they're restricted

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Speaker 1: Back then, it was you have to weigh like no

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Speaker 1: Plus also you couldn't be married or have kids. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: airline dependent. It's not like it was a federal regulation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very competitive jobs to get. Um you've gone to the

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Speaker 1: Ox shoulder bag. Uh. The thing is great and I

426
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: can fit everything in there. But if I'm going on

427
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: like a vacation, and I know you think it's heresy,

428
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: but I will check that bag and relax my day away.

429
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to yuck you. Um here, Yeah, if

430
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: you want to check your bag, that's fine, or gate

431
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: check it. That's the good deal because you don't have

432
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: to pay there. Okay, I have no problem with gate

433
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: checking it at the plane. So it's just stowed in

434
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: a handy manner, so you just walk off and they

435
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: hand it to you. That's fine. But there are very

436
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: few things that you can do that is a bigger

437
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: waste of time than standing around waiting for your bag

438
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: to make it to the bag carousel. I hate doing that,

439
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: especially when you're ready for vacation to start. Yeah, I

440
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: don't mind because most airports, my bag's cruising around that

441
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: thing by the time I get to baggage. Yeah for me,

442
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: And that's just because I I don't know. I don't

443
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: like having to mess with fighting a bag a suitcase

444
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 1: on a plane. I don't like contributing to that whole process,

445
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: much less being a business traveler. Like you see those

446
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: dudes that have the the roller bag with a big

447
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: bag on top of that and then a back back.

448
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: You're like, dude, that's like three pieces of luggage. I

449
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: need to merge them, all right. But this is not

450
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: about just us complaining about traveling. Get back to the

451
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: flight attendance, Get back to us. Uh So, customer service

452
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: is the goal of the flight in it to keep

453
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 1: you happy as possible. Um. But also you know they

454
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: don't have to indulge you once you have passed the

455
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: point of sobriety or just jerking nous. Um. They don't

456
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: deal with that stuff anymore. Like they will stop boarding

457
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: the plane if you're drunk before you get on, and

458
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: have you escorted off. It's it's serious business. Now, you

459
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't get on a plane if you're loaded. No time

460
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: was they would get you loaded on the plane. Well

461
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: they yeah, they don't. They don't mess with that. But

462
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: they're they're long days. So like we said, twelve hour days,

463
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: they are if you're if you're new, Like you said earlier,

464
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: they don't have a ton of control over their schedules.

465
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 1: So you're gonna be working a lot of weekends. Everybody's

466
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna be working some weekends. You're gonna do an overnight trips, uh,

467
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: spending a night in cities, and that can sometimes be

468
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: fun if you put a positive spin on it, or

469
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 1: it can be a big drag. Yeah. But one thing

470
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: that I had seen across the board from all the

471
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: sources I hit for this was that you it's up

472
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: to you how much or how little you fly. Up

473
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: to I think a hundred hours a month, there's like

474
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: a maximum you can you can work. Um, they're probably minimum,

475
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: don't you think r Now, not that I saw, probably

476
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: probably do. But I get the impression that that's actually

477
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 1: once you've done it for like six months. Typically when

478
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: you're hired on for an airline, you're on a probationary

479
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: six month period. Yeah, because they don't want just you

480
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: know number when they don't know you from anybody, they've

481
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: known you for seven weeks. They just trained you want

482
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: tin buddy passes and then I'm gonna quit my job exactly. Well,

483
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: I saw another thing too. Apparently buddy passes are like

484
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: the worst thing that's ever happened to a flight attendant

485
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: because everybody begs for him. But they are like really

486
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: actually bad passes. Like you're at the end of standby

487
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: and if your friend, if you give the buddy past

488
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: your friend and they start yelling at the gate agent,

489
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: you get in trouble because it was your buddy past

490
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: that was being used. You might even have your perks

491
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: revoked because your friend was a jerk to the gate

492
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: attendant and everybody's always asking you for him. So a

493
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: lot of people just don't even touch the buddy pass perk.

494
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: That's like, if you're a country club member, you're responsible

495
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: for the behavior of your guests right now. There are

496
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: other perks you don't know. You've seen. Caddy check, Yeah,

497
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: but I've never liked belonged to a country club. Um,

498
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: there are other perks where like a family members, immediate

499
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: family members sometimes extended family members of spouses. Um, they

500
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: get the same perks you do, which very frequently is

501
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: like you just pay taxes on the ticket and you

502
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: fly for free. Um, though that's different. Like all flight

503
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: attendants taken advantage of that. Some of them will will

504
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: hop on over to Europe or something for you know,

505
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: lunch hundred bucks. Yeah maybe if that. Yeah, well, buddy

506
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: passes used to be a lot easier when they didn't

507
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: oversell all the flights. You know, Like I used to

508
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: have friends back in the day. I'd get a buddy pass,

509
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: fly no problem. But now you're right, it's you're in

510
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: a bad position. Yeah. Do you remember flights where like

511
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: entire rows would be empty, Like, well, the flight was scheduled,

512
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: so we have to we have to stick to it.

513
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: It's it's strange what a day. Uh. So you're gonna

514
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: be working hours a month generally, but like you said,

515
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: I guess you can't go over that one mark. Uh.

516
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: And interestingly to another thing you get trained for is

517
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: very sadly human trafficking. These days, they will fly kidnapped

518
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: people right in front of people's faces, and so flight

519
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: attendants now are trained just to spot this kind of activity,

520
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: which can mean like an adult who doesn't really understand

521
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: about the final destination, that's a bad sign. Or if

522
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: it's uh, like an adult traveler with a minor and

523
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: they just it definitely looks like a little more than

524
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: parental behavior going on, like don't get up and go

525
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, that kind of thing. Apparently that's how

526
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: it started. There was a man who caught the suspicion

527
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: of a flight attendant named UM Sandra Fierini. She worked

528
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: for American Airlines. She noticed that like a late eighteen

529
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: year old teenager age guy who was UM had an

530
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: infant that still had the umbilical cord attached, and like

531
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: a bottle of milk in his pocket, a couple of

532
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: diapers stucks in his in his pocket his other pocket,

533
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: so like this baby was stolen or bought or something.

534
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: And UM she started looking into it and found out

535
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: that there was actually a big deal. And UM teamed

536
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: up with a woman named Deborah Sigmund, who founded Innocence

537
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: at Risk and they kind of started this program where now,

538
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: if you're a flight attendant, when the things you're trained

539
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: for is to recognize UM human trafficking, and they actually

540
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of flight attendants volunteered at the last Super

541
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: Bowl to look for human trafficking, because apparently the Super

542
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Bowl is like also the Super Bowl prostitution and human

543
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 1: trafficking in the world every year. So fight attendants went

544
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and volunteered to kind of like

545
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: keep tabs on things and call out people they thought

546
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: were amazing and traffic. Yeah, somebody wrote in and said,

547
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: you can call it super Bowl. Sure, it can't do anything. Yeah,

548
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: you can't like advertise anything using those words. I don't

549
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: think we can't sell our Super Bowl bobble heads that

550
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: we have a box full of. Too bad, it was

551
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: a poor investment. Should we take our final break here? Yeah,

552
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: all right, let's do that. We'll talk a little bit

553
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: more about some of the perks and drawbacks right after this.

554
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about pay m Baby, you don't

555
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: make a ton of money. I think starting salaries in

556
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: the mid thirties, Oh no, no, for a flight attendant,

557
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: that's no, No, starting salary can be like eighteen. The

558
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: median in two thousands, twelve or thirteen or fourteen was

559
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: thirty seven the median. That's like, that's the middle, that's

560
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: that's not much, you know. That's why it's such an attractive, um,

561
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: a job for people who are just looking for extra money.

562
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: If you're a parent and you have so much control

563
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: over your schedule, once you start to get some seniority, um,

564
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: it's a great, great way to spend your money. If

565
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: you're a soap opera star, it's a great, great extra job.

566
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: Did you see that? Yeah? What's her name? Kate Linder

567
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: who plays Esther Valentine on The Young and the Restless. Know,

568
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: she's a flight attendant as well, for like thirty two

569
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: years and she's done them both for about the same

570
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: amount of time. And she does it like every week. Yeah,

571
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: and she says it helps keep her grounded no pun intended. Yes,

572
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: she didn't say the no pun intended part, but yeah,

573
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean she gets those perks, She gets to fly

574
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: to Europe for lunch if she wants, and act on soaps.

575
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: So good for her. And that's not to say that

576
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: that that media and I mean, obviously that's the middle amount,

577
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: but it goes much higher than that. And it all

578
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: has to do all perks, all pay all benefits, all

579
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: that stuff. The flight attendant profession is all about seniority.

580
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: And there are plenty of flight attendants out there who

581
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: are career flight attendants. And you know like Kate, Kate Linder,

582
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: she she's been doing it for thirty two years. There's

583
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: another UM woman named Candy Bruton who was a forty

584
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: three year veteran of flight attendant. UM Like, there you

585
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: can a long, happy career out of it now that

586
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: they've taken that age restriction off. Yeah, twenty one three cents.

587
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: A few years ago an hour was the was the

588
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: rate for a first year attendant. So plus twenty dollars

589
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: an hour. But here's the thing, and this is something

590
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: that I bet human beings don't realize. When you were

591
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: sitting on that plane and those doors are open and

592
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: they're getting you your first class drinks, or they're helping

593
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: you put your bags away and you're complaining because you

594
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: don't have a pillow and coach. They're doing that for

595
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: almost free, because the only hours that they get paid

596
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: for at that rate are flight hours. Yeah, when it

597
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: says the boarding doors now closed, the clock just started

598
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: for them. Never knew that. No, I didn't either. They

599
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: get something like depending on the airline, maybe a dollar

600
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: fifty to a dollar for the pre the boarding stuff,

601
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: the pre while the doors open stuff, I guess is

602
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: what you call it. Yeah, So like, next time you're

603
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: sitting on the tarmac and you're delayed for two hours

604
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: and you're super grumpy, think about that flight attendant who

605
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: is getting paid almost nothing to be dealing with how

606
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: grumpy you are, And if the boarding doors closed, they

607
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: would be getting paid right now they sat in here

608
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: if flight delays, they like, flight time is the only

609
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: thing that matters. I thought it was once the door

610
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: is closed. So if the doors closed and you go

611
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: out to the runway and you're just sitting there on

612
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: the runway, they would be getting paid. I thought that's

613
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: not what it said. Somebody let us know because it

614
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: said in the article. If next time you're on a

615
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: big flight delay, think about the fact that they're not

616
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: making any money. I know you, And that's probably why

617
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: the airline put it in there, because can you imagine

618
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: how much money they would have to pay in flight

619
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: attendance for flight delays. Yeah, but it's not like the

620
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: flight attendants are just like, I'm off the clock, don't

621
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: bother me. Once we get into the air, you can

622
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: bother me. You don't hear that, you know, so they

623
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: should be paying them for that. Hey, I agree, you know,

624
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: I think we should together and start a social movement here.

625
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: I wonder why you should tip flight attendant too. Yeah,

626
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: that's not a thing. They should stand you know, at

627
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: the end, when they stand there and say good day

628
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: and I hope you enjoyed your flight, they should be

629
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: holding the jar as far as I'm concerned, shaking it. Yeah,

630
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: throw five bucks in there on your way out, bye bye.

631
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: I think they'd be great. Uh. You remember Tina Mucklow,

632
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: the DV Cooper heist. Yeah, he tried to give her

633
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: ten dollars and she said no, tipping aloud. That's right.

634
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: What a hero. And quite often flight attendants or the

635
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: heroes on many flights, whether it is dealing with literally

636
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: a terrorist and trying to manage that situation bravely, or

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Speaker 1: god forbid, some sort of incident in the air with um,

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Speaker 1: you know, like with the with the plane itself. But

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Speaker 1: at the very least those jerks on planes that think

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Speaker 1: they can just talk to people whoever they want, they

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Speaker 1: gotta put up with a lot in a very cramped space. Um.

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Speaker 1: Very early on in in flight attendant history, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we said or not. You said that Ellen

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Speaker 1: Church was a registered nurse, but that was par for

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Speaker 1: the course for early flight attend it's the happy registered nurses. UM.

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Speaker 1: There was one named Nellie Granger who was a t

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Speaker 1: flight going to Pittsburgh, I believe in and it crashed

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Speaker 1: and she pulled a couple of passengers to safety, and

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Speaker 1: UM made it down the mountain to get help and

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Speaker 1: went back up with the rescuers to help. UM minister

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Speaker 1: to the two injured passengers whose lives she saved an hour.

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Speaker 1: She got a trip to the Equas with her aunt.

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Speaker 1: That's nice fight, t w A. Yeah, I got a

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Speaker 1: couple more things. There's some crazy stuff that flight attendants

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Speaker 1: have seen. The one that gets me though, is dead

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Speaker 1: bodies on planes that are purposefully brought onto planes, not

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Speaker 1: people who die. Apparently, Singapore Airlines says what's called the

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Speaker 1: corpse closet on their plane means to stow a passenger

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Speaker 1: who might die midair. There in the minority there that

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Speaker 1: I think they might be peculiar with that. But sometimes

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Speaker 1: because shipping a body is very expensive, it can run

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Speaker 1: into the thousands and thousands of dollars. Some people say, well,

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Speaker 1: it'd be cheaper if I just bought a plane ticket

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Speaker 1: or put my mother in a garment bag and just

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Speaker 1: smuggle her body on board and took her where she's

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Speaker 1: going to be buried myself. That a guy got caught

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Speaker 1: doing that in Miami. Um, there was in this mental

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Speaker 1: false article, there was the person who's interviewed said her

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Speaker 1: roommate UM found a mother and a daughter trying to

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Speaker 1: smuggle the dead father onto a flight, just in a wheelchair,

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Speaker 1: and said that he had the flu, but he was

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Speaker 1: clearly dead and they had to stop the plane mid flight.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he did have the flu, No, he was dead.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's how I done. Oh maybe he previously had

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Speaker 1: the flu. Yeah, it could have been. Like there's a

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Speaker 1: kernel of truth to what we just said. That's it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and don't order to diet coke. Apparently it takes the

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Speaker 1: longest to stop fizzing on a trolley. Okay, that's science.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know more about flight attendants, just

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Speaker 1: chat up a flight attendant. I'm sure they'd love to

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Speaker 1: tell you some great stories. And in the meantime, it's

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Speaker 1: time for listener mail. I'm gonna call this p s

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Speaker 1: A about the flu because we had someone Courtney Harmouth,

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Speaker 1: who was a Skanni, who says this, um, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: want to basically give you a p s A about

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Speaker 1: how dangerous the flu can be. In it was a

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Speaker 1: healthy high school freshman was suddenly stricken with a horrible

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Speaker 1: digestive distress, chills, fever, coughing. After a week or so,

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Speaker 1: I was told to go the hospital for observation and

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Speaker 1: get an I V. What was supposed to be one

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Speaker 1: night turned into a month. I had contracted the swine

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Speaker 1: flu that first night. My vitals went crazy and I

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Speaker 1: ended up having to be kept in my local hospital

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Speaker 1: for two weeks. To my say, I developed pneumonia as

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Speaker 1: a complication. Soon after that, fluid began to fill my

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Speaker 1: lungs and I had to be helicopter to a larger

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Speaker 1: hospital in Madison. UM. She said being in the helicopter

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Speaker 1: was pretty sweet. Though, oh really, yeah, even though you know,

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Speaker 1: I Wooter would not be comfortable. I think she's a

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Speaker 1: bright side person. Uh. For about twenty minutes, I was

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Speaker 1: only taking in about thirty percent oxygen. My parents were

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Speaker 1: told I could have brain damage or may even die.

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Speaker 1: When my arrival to the larger hospital, I was immediately

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Speaker 1: put to a medically induced comma for eleven days. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I was finally taken out of my coma.

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Speaker 1: I had atrophied and way to measly ninety five pounds

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Speaker 1: at twelve years old. I had to relearn how to

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Speaker 1: walk right and use basic motor skills. I am extremely

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Speaker 1: lucky and I'm completely recovered from the ordeal. Did not

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Speaker 1: suffer any long term health effects, and now it's twenty

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Speaker 1: three years old. I thankfully not had the flu. Since

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Speaker 1: I tell this to everyone to say, please get vaccinated

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Speaker 1: against the flu. The flu vaccine doesn't just protect you,

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Speaker 1: but also your kids, parents, friends and co workers really

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Speaker 1: love your show. Want to thank you for doing such

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Speaker 1: a great job about important and sometimes hilarious topics. That

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Speaker 1: is our wisconsinite Van Courtney Harmouth. Thanks a lot, Courtney.

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Speaker 1: Glad you made it through that one. That was pretty scary. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we said the flue could be dangerous, so you haven't.

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Speaker 1: Courtney just proved good. Everybody. If you want to tell

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Speaker 1: us a great story that is harrowing and amazing, we

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