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Speaker 1: My goodness, that misspeak the best relentless refusing to give up?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 2: In Fantasy Abs, I'm your host, Chris raybon NFL Week

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Speaker 2: two is here the start Player Projections episode, as always,

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Speaker 2: joined by one of the most accurate projectors in the game,

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Speaker 2: the odds breaker Sean Kerner. Sean, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: It's up? You know. Like I mentioned on our previous pod,

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Speaker 1: I love week one because it means the season started.

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Speaker 1: But it's one least favorite weeks to project because it

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Speaker 1: But Week two is one of my favorite. It feels

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Speaker 1: like Christmas morning, seeing like actual like data usage numbers, routes,

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Speaker 1: of So I am pumped for Week two and I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's always people either over underreact to the data,

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Speaker 1: so It's always fun, like getting our first glimpse at

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Speaker 1: like these offenses and defenses and everything. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. I think people do tend to

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Speaker 2: some of those with the guys were high and low

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Speaker 2: on at each position. Will jump into quarterback first, but

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Speaker 2: labs dot com. All right, we're gonna go top five

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Speaker 2: at each skill position, guys were high on, guys are

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Speaker 2: Who's your top five for Week two?

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Speaker 1: I got Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels. There you go already. I mean, he finished

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Speaker 1: So wait, who did you not have in your top five.

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Speaker 2: Richardson. Richardson, he's number he's number seven. He just I

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Speaker 1: But Richardson needs to learn how to slide. He's still

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Speaker 1: Daniels needs a tire helmet. Did you keep that many

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Speaker 1: And did you dan Quinn saying he doesn't want him

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Speaker 1: On Kirk Cousins? Uh? You know, he he's a guy.

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Speaker 2: Who he got?

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Speaker 1: Uh Breecee Hall our boy Kyron Williams Number two? There

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Breis Bijon, Saquan, Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 2: And it's like the reason he's like, you know RB

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Speaker 2: and he him like thirteen.

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00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: But after some of these backs in this range, you know,

434
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: some weeks. Yeah, but he's consistent. Every time he's healthy,

435
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: you know you're you're going to play him. And yeah,

436
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: he's going to miss three to four games, we know that.

437
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I went to you He's my RB thirteen

438
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: and Joe Mixon is my RB five, so we're on

439
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: the same page.

440
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 2: Speaking of guys in some games. JK. Dobbins had a big,

441
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: big Week one, and you said you were low on

442
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,239
Speaker 2: Gus Edwards last week on this podcast, and you were

443
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 2: correct about that. He finishes the RB forty seven. Who

444
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 2: are you low on this week?

445
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm low on Javonte Williams. You know, I mentioned on

446
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: the Waiver pod that this is really a fifty to

447
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 1: fifty backfield right now with Javante and Jill McLaughlin. I

448
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: think everybody, including myself, kind of figured Javonte would, you know,

449
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: maybe be like a sixty five to thirty five type

450
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: of lead back, but that was not the case. Plus,

451
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, with bo Nicks just either unable or unwilling

452
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: to push the ball downfield, it was allowing the Seahawks

453
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: to stack the box. So Javonte face the stack box

454
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: on fifty percent of his rush attempts, which is the

455
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: second highest rate of Week one. So unless you know

456
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: they have Nicks throw more downfield, that might be a

457
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: trend that continues for Javonte, specifically, just knowing that when

458
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 1: he's in there that they're probably more likely to run

459
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: it and just not worried about next throwing it downfield.

460
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: So this is just another tough spot for him against

461
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Here, the Broncos have the third lowest team

462
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: toll of the week, so Javonte's touchdown odds really take

463
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: a hit. But he just has a very low floor.

464
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: So he's outside of the RB three flex mixed for

465
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: me this week. He's my RB thirty six and trending

466
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: down just in terms of usage for me. And then

467
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: another guys, Josh Jacobs against the Colts, and you know,

468
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious that the Packers pass catchers clearly get

469
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: a massive downgrade with Jordan Love out and with Malik

470
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: Willis expected to start. You know, he might not even

471
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: throw for more than one hundred and fifty yards here

472
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: against the Colts. But even if the Colts are the

473
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: Packers have to lean on the running game and Josh

474
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 1: Jacobs more here, it's just gonna hurt his efficiency. Either.

475
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: The Colts are gonna know that they want to run,

476
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: They're not gonna really worry about, you know, Malik throwing

477
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: it down till or anything, so I think they're gonna

478
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: be able to stack the box here. It's just gonna

479
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: be tough for Jacobs to rack up yards here and

480
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: probably won't see many, if any, goal line opportunities, just

481
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: based on how inefficient I think this offense will be. Plus,

482
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, last week Emmanuel Wilson played through a questionable tag,

483
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: looked good, and you know, Marshaun Lloyd could return this week.

484
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: So last week was I think the peak in terms

485
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: of you know, Josh Jacobs, you know, maximizing touches. This

486
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: week there might be a little bit more of a

487
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: mix behind him. So just a lot of concerns for

488
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: the Packers offense overall, but I think also Josh Jacobs,

489
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: so he's my RB twenty four to open the week.

490
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: Actually, I'm on the other side of Jacobs. I have

491
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 2: him still as an RB twelve because I actually think

492
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 2: he's gonna maximize touches this week because the Malik Willis

493
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: in his starts averaged about eleven percent past rate under expectation.

494
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: He just got to Green Bay, so he doesn't really

495
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: know the full offense. Maybe he's worked with some of

496
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: the assistant coaches, I believe, but he doesn't really know

497
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: the full offense. So I think you're just gonna see

498
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 2: a ton of runs dump off to Jacobs. I actually

499
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: think he'll get twenty plus touches this week because I

500
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: just I just don't think Green Bay like get the

501
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: hail Mary off like they can't. They can't this guy.

502
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he.

503
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: Didn't get it off, but he didn't get it off.

504
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,479
Speaker 1: We're on the same page or productions are just spitting

505
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: on different numbers. I think will push twenty touches this week.

506
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that would help is if

507
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: Malik Willis checks it down to him. That's that's the

508
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: thing that uh, you know, it's still Tuesday morning. I'm

509
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: still trying to figure this out. I think Malik is

510
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: going to be more willing to pull it down than

511
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: run than he is to check it down to Jacobs,

512
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: which is kind of like lowering my Jake his projection.

513
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: If you think that he'll check it down to Jacobs,

514
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: Jacobs could end up with four to five catches here.

515
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: That's how I think he still ends up putting up

516
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: RB one value. So maybe that's where we're differing is

517
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: maybe you have Jacobs for you know, a few catches,

518
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: which could be the case, but I think that's probably

519
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: where we're different with him because I do think he's

520
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: going to see, you know, sixteen seventeen Rush attempts again

521
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: very low touchdown ons. But I'm with you. I think

522
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: they are going to want to lean on Jacobs at

523
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: least early on, and we'll see if that works. But

524
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: I just think his efficiency is going to be very

525
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: low with the Colts kind of knowing that's going to

526
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: be their proach here.

527
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the Texans just abandoned the pass of the

528
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: second half and Joe Mixon ended up with thirty carries

529
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: for about fifty nines. I don't know if the coast

530
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 2: knowing like is really helping, but I mean.

531
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 1: You know you still have to worry about CJ. Stroud

532
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: in that case, Yeah, but you're not really about Lady House.

533
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, No, He's going to face a ton of

534
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: stack boxes. But I just think I just think it's

535
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: gonna be him and Jayden reading this one because they're

536
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: gonna have to get like guys, but we will. It's

537
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: just incapable. It's like from what we've seen of doing

538
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 2: anything right, Like you know that takes time in the pocket,

539
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: drop it like going downfield. It's just I think it's

540
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: just gonna have to be allowed. I'm like, quick, get

541
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: the ball out of his hands, hand it off and

542
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: maybe maybe go maybe get Craft and Musgrave on the

543
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: field at the same time.

544
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: I just, you know, just like there's still there's still

545
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: enough time for them to like trade for Josh Dobbs

546
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: and for him to once again start, you know, twenty

547
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: four hours of the playbook, so there's still time for that.

548
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: And if that happens, maybe I'll all change my production

549
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: for Jacobs.

550
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: That would be hilarious Bencher Dobbs again. Okay for me,

551
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: I was I was low on Kiron last week. He

552
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: did end up finishing as the RB twenty three, though

553
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: probably season long stock went up a whittle because it

554
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: looks like Korham doesn't have a role early on a

555
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 2: though who knows what McVeigh like get next week. He's

556
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: kind up getting like eight carries. It is a short week.

557
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: But the guy I'm down on is the guy that

558
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: was down on season long as well. It's Jayalen Warren.

559
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm eight spots lower than consensus that have him RB

560
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: fifty consensus RB forty two. He only had two of

561
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: the twenty six backfield carries last week. Now, he Harris

562
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: had twenty, so maybe maybe we get that Derrick Henry

563
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: breakout after all. But Cordell Patterson also mixed in for

564
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: four carries, and Warren had a thirty two percent route rate,

565
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: which was lower than Nag's forty two percent. And with

566
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Patterson mixing in, it just complicates things because last year

567
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: it was just a strict one two punch. I don't

568
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: even remember who the number three back on the Steelers

569
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: was for. Was it like, Was it like with Farlow

570
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: or Benny Snell? I don't even remember, but he wasn't

571
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: playing much whoever was. And this year I remember Patterson

572
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: is an Arthur Smith guy. So it's not even with

573
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: As Warren gets a little healthier because he does have

574
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: the hamstring, I don't know if he's gonna hit that

575
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: usage rate that he was at last year, and that's

576
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: what we were kind of counting on for him to

577
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 2: give us that fringe flex value. So right now I

578
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: think he has he belongs on benches across the board

579
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, they still haven't the still kind

580
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: of be in moment exactly how healthy he is. So

581
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: until we see a game of him, you know, getting

582
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: those double digit touches. I think we have to keep

583
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: keep him on our benches and just might be one

584
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: of them. Might be a lost pick if if Patterson

585
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: continues to mix in all year.

586
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just going back to the rams backfield real quick.

587
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: You know, I said you just can't trust McVeigh, which

588
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: is saying I don't know what the hell he's gonna do.

589
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: But the fact that Ronnie Rivers was operating ahead of

590
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Blake quorum was surprising. But again it's it's McVeigh. But

591
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: the thing with McVeigh, these trends can't be sticky week

592
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: to week. So I think that that's why this week

593
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 1: I have Kyron inside my top three, because it does

594
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: look like he is the workhorse back right now and

595
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: that could change any given time, which is kind of

596
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: my point. I don't like investing on you know, early

597
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: round drive capital on McVeigh for that reason, But as

598
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: of now, Kien Williams, in my opinion, is clearly a

599
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: top five back.

600
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't like the wine. But yeah,

601
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: against Arizona, it should it should be moot. But yeah, yeah,

602
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm still being a little conservative just because I don't

603
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: know he's coming off the it's coming off of somewhat

604
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: of a short week and just just couldn't get it

605
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: going on the ground again, it's a pretty good defense,

606
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: so we'll see how We'll see how it goes. But

607
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: I need more to put him back in that top

608
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: five just with all the all the weirdness. But what

609
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: are you doing for the problem.

610
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: Let's go with JK. Dobbins rushing yards because I think

611
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: he is, you know, kind of on that well. Yeah,

612
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: the RB three flex mix could be involved in start decisions.

613
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: Had a great week one. Just curious where you're projecting

614
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: him after that. But I'm going to set the opening

615
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: line at fifty and a half rushing yards at Carolina, I.

616
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: Gotta go over to the Panthers ands. I'm going over.

617
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: He might get that on one run. You know, it's

618
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: he did get out carried by Gus last week, but

619
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 2: like from like the as the game progressed, it seemed

620
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 2: like they were getting more and more confident in Dobbins

621
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: and he broke a couple of big runs. So yeah,

622
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: you know, it's something where he's an in game injury

623
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: risk at all times, and he definitely his acceleration is lacking,

624
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Like he got caught from behind a few times, but

625
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: I do think that with just the Panthers in disarray,

626
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: and remember they lost Derek Brown, who's like their best

627
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: interior lineman and he might be done for the year probably,

628
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: but he's gonna should be out this week. And this

629
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 2: is a Panther team that gave up, you know, over

630
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy rushing yards to Saints backs last week.

631
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, I gotta go, I gotta go over. But

632
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 2: it's a it's a it's a good line all right.

633
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: Wide receiver top five.

634
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: We got Ceedee Lamb, Tyrie Kill, Cooper Cup, Deebo Samuel,

635
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: and AJ Brown.

636
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: I got Cooper Cup like it's back in twenty twenty one.

637
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: Whoa there go, I mean fourteen targets and were going

638
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 2: to Okooka and Arizona. Yeah, definitely Cooper Cup, Ceedee Lamb, Tyreek,

639
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: Kal Jamar Chase, AJ Brown. So not too yet, not

640
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: too fancy here except for Cup, who I mean, he

641
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: looked like he's back to now and now he'll be

642
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: back in that you know. I think like Nakula was

643
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: kind of playing a Cup role for a while there. Yeah,

644
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: now he's like Cup is back in the Cup role.

645
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: It's like Cup squared. He gets both roles.

646
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: Now, yeah right, yeah, exactly who are you high on?

647
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: Well, like I mentioned, Deebo Samuel's in my top five,

648
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: so might as well talk about him a little bit.

649
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: You know, not that there was any doubt you're going

650
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: to start him, but he gets a massive boose and

651
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: usage without McCaffrey. I mean, we saw that he had

652
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: eight rush attempts only twenty three yards but a touchdown

653
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: and then five catches for fifty four yards receiving. But

654
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: this is another good spot for him against the Vikings.

655
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: You know, they play a ton of zone, which sets

656
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: up even better for him. Usually when you know they

657
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: play defense that plays a ton of zone, that's that's

658
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: a boost for McCaffrey's you know Debo and Kittle. So

659
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 1: without McCaffrey there, Debos is picking up just an extra

660
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: few touches a game as a result. So you know,

661
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: big spot for him, especially with you know, Brandon Ayuk.

662
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: I'll talk to him, talk about him in a bit,

663
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: but he's probably limited again this week because he missed

664
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: most of camp. So you know that's why Deebo Samuel

665
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: opens the week inside my top five. Another guy I'm

666
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: high on is Keenan Allen against the Texans. It sounds

667
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: like Roma Doomsday is gonna miss this week and potentially

668
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: more unfortunately with the knee injury. If that's the case,

669
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, Allan would go from a fringe wide receiver

670
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: three sit start decision to you know, a low end

671
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: wide receiver two at least, because last week it was

672
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: kind of surprising he and a Dunday were splitting work

673
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: in two wide receiver sets. You know, it's always interesting

674
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: to me how they were going to kind of figure

675
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: out how to play these three studs, and it seemed

676
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: like Donsday was really cutting into you know, potential Keenan

677
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Allen playing time. So this is a spot where if

678
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: a Dunsday's out, you know, Keenan's going to be a

679
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: full time player, move up the target pecking orders. So

680
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: this is a matchup at Houston where the Bears are

681
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: probably going to have to throw quite a bit, So

682
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: I like Keenan to break out here. This all hinges

683
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: on Caleb Williams not looking like complete shit again this week,

684
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of banking on him not being you know,

685
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: Bryce Young bad. But after week when it's hard to

686
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: say I have much confidence in it, but I do

687
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: think Caleb will bounce back. I think he's much better

688
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: than what we saw week one. So assuming all this,

689
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: Keenan opens the week as my wide receiver twenty three.

690
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Keenan. I think Keenan also pulled up

691
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: Wayne at one point, so I might have missed some

692
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 2: snaps because of that. As usual.

693
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: Well, he entered the game kind of iffy, right, He's

694
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: been kind of battling some injuries, old age kind of stuff.

695
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, his quarterback, yeah too, But yeah, no, I mean

696
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: he's got to be he's got to be higher with

697
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: Odoon's out, especially with you know, the tight ends kind

698
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: of now like co Comet's not even really a factor.

699
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: It's just Allen should be the Queer number two target

700
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 2: if not, if not the number one uhner. Last week,

701
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs and Rashie Rice came through for me top

702
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: fifteen of finishes. Talked about them on this pod this week.

703
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: The guy I'm hiring is Jamison Williams. I have him

704
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: as a wide receiver eighteen. He's wide receiver thirty three ECR.

705
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: And this is a guy who formed a Round one pick. Finally,

706
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: broke out five catches one hundred and twenty one yards

707
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: and a touchdown and eight targets thirty routes, ran around

708
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: on ninety four percent of the dropbacks. And remember they

709
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: don't really have a you know another like Khaliff Raymond

710
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: is not really the guy that even won it wide

711
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: receiver three, like they would prefer him as the number

712
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: four because he does so much on special teams in

713
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: return game. But yeah, James and Williams is pretty much

714
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: an every snap player now and he had a thirty

715
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: percent target market chair a sixty five percent air yard

716
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 2: chair in Week one. And Tampa Bay lost three of

717
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: their four active cornerbacks last week. Brice Hall definitely going

718
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: to be out with a leg injury, and then Antoine

719
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: Winfield their safety doubtful with a foot injury, Zion McCollum

720
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: another corner questionable with a concussion, and Josh Hayes questionable

721
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: with an ankle. So Tampa Bay just decimated on the

722
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: back end. But you're still in a tough spot when

723
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: you play the lines because you still got to prepare

724
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: for Saint Brown and Laporta in addition to Williams. So

725
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: it's not like you could just say, oh, we're doubling

726
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: Williams and that's that, you know. So he's gonna get

727
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: He's probably gonna get some one on one opportunities again

728
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: again and some pretty questionable uh you know, backups or

729
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: banged up starters for the Tampa Bay in the Tampa

730
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: Bay secondary. So I like Jamison Williams. This Lions team.

731
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: Uh maybe it is implied point total is pushing thirty

732
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: this week. So really like Jamison finally. You know, I was, well,

733
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: I've been low on him most of his career, but

734
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: he looks like a different I was here in a

735
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: camp that he looked good. But you know, never know

736
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: this guy because I mean it didn't show it for

737
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: a while. But I thought he came on towards the

738
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: end of last year and into the playoffs as well,

739
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: just like playing really hard as a run blocker and

740
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 2: just making making more guys miss. And now he's finally

741
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: getting opportunities to be a big part of the offense

742
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: because they need that third, third, fourth option, uh in

743
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: the passing game, especially at receiver, to take some pressure

744
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 2: off Saint Brown. So I like Jamo this week against

745
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: the Bucks. Who are you low on?

746
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like I mentioned, you know, I'm hell on Brandon

747
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: you at least for one more week against the Vikings.

748
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: I hit on you know, he's under a three and

749
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: a half reception prop last night, assuming he would be

750
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: somewhat limited after holding out most of camp. That did

751
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: end up, you know, coming true. You know, he put

752
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: up a dud, but he did drop a touchdown, so

753
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: he's always gonna have touch on upside. But this is

754
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: a matchup, you know, against the Vikings where again they

755
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: play heavy zone defense. This is typically a better spot

756
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: for Debo and George Kittle, so I'm just expecting another,

757
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, downweek for him. He's my wide receiver twenty eight.

758
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: Obviously you can start him if if you want to

759
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: tap into that touch on upside, but he does feel

760
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more touchdown dependent until you know he

761
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: gets the snap rates up. And then the other guy

762
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm down on is well every you know Packers pass catcher,

763
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: but Romeo Dobbs specifically, I think because when it comes

764
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: to the passing offense, it's so spread out. You know,

765
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: they have five to six guys that could go off

766
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: any in week. And you know, I'm also down on

767
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: Jayden Reen and Christian Watson, But those are two guys

768
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: where they could catch like a screen pass and take

769
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: eighty yards to the house and make me look like

770
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: an idiot. So I think Romeo Dobbs is probably the

771
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: one pass catcher that really you know, depends on the

772
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: scheme and you know Jordan Love being good to really

773
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: put up numbers and he needs, you know, a high

774
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: target rate, So I think he's probably the guy with

775
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: the biggest drop when it comes to, you know, having

776
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: Malik will center center, so he's all the way down

777
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: to wide receiver sixty one for me. I Like I said,

778
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: I think Reid and Watson are probably outside of startable

779
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: range for me. But again they're they're talented enough where

780
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: I think they could have an explosive play. So if

781
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: you're in a desperate situation, you might be able to

782
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: roll one of those two guys. But I think Dobbs

783
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: is the guy that's a clear uh set this week,

784
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: at least until Jordan Love can come back.

785
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't trust any packers received Jaden

786
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: Reed the closest one, just because I think he could

787
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: do a lot of work in a run game and

788
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: he's just explosive. Yeah, I mean I guess Watson is too,

789
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 2: but Watson relies a little more on like red zone stuff,

790
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: and I just Molie Willis as a passer. I do

791
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: not want anything to do with him. So yeah, Dobbs,

792
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: you're running the most routes, but he needs Jordan love

793
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821
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: being low on him last week. He ended up finishing

822
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: as a wide receiver thirty three thirty three ended up.

823
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: I think he dropped the key fourth down and essentially

824
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 2: ended the Jets hopes. It wasn't a great throw from Rogers,

825
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: but definitely could have came down with it. This week,

826
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm lowing Marvin Harrison junior, and you know, it was

827
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: just concerning three targets, one catch for four yards despite

828
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: running thirty six routes. I know, you know, sometimes rookies

829
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: take a while, but for the amount of talent this

830
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: guy has, you know, to be targeted on just eight

831
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: percent of his routes, it's like Kyler Murray didn't almost

832
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 2: never looked at him, and that that's just that's just concerning,

833
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: especially since you know Kyra had a full off season

834
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: this year. But a bigger issue might just be Kyra

835
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: struggles to that you know, intermediate deep part of the field.

836
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: He was just one for seven for five yards on

837
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: passes ten or more yards down the field according to

838
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: PFF data, and last season he was just thirty five

839
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,479
Speaker 2: of seventy nine on passes ten plus yards downfields forty

840
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: four percent. So, uh, he's just not an efficient passer

841
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: when when he's going downfield. So that means Harrison, you know,

842
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: that's where he's really going to do most of his work.

843
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: Intermediate to dep you have McBride, you know, into short

844
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: to intermediate, you have the you know, you have Connor,

845
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: you have Greg Dortch. So you know, Wilson and Harrison

846
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: are the guys that are going to do their work

847
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: more downfield, and Kyra Murray, he's just struggled with his accuracy.

848
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: I mean even even missed McBride on one where he

849
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: should have just pulled it down and ran, and he

850
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: like threw up this this prayer that he didn't need

851
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: to throw up and probably gave up a short first down.

852
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's just really shaky on those passes. So

853
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: I have him as my wide receiver twenty five. ECR

854
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: still has him a wide receiver fifteen. I think in

855
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: you know, if you're starting three wide receivers in a

856
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: twelve team league, you're not benching him yet, but if

857
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: you're two wide receivers, there's a good chance that you

858
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: you could be able to bench him if you have to.

859
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: You know, you should have two wide receivers better than

860
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: him this week, because I think you want to kind

861
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: of I think you wanted and we see some you know,

862
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 2: more than three targets or you know, a big play

863
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: something Kyler. Look, you know, like something has to give

864
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: here before we're just ranking him as a top fifteen guy.

865
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's I'm ten spots lowered on him to

866
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 2: open the weekend.

867
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be fair, there was a ton of win

868
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, so maybe that's why Kyler was a bit

869
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: hesitant to throw. But I'm with you. You know, Marvin's

870
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: my wide receiver twenty five. His his season long eastr

871
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: ended at like wide receiver nine. And I know we're

872
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: both high on Marvin as a talent, but I always

873
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: thought that, uh, you know, the market was a little

874
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: too bullish on him, at least heading into the rookie

875
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: his rookie season, and I did not expect the dud

876
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: that we saw Week one, so that was very concerning.

877
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: I think he bounces back this week, but I'm kind

878
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: of with you. I think he's more of a low

879
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: end wide receiver too, until you know Kyler and he

880
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: can prove it.

881
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Kyler is also another one of those guys. He's been

882
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: he's been less efficient at home than he has on

883
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: a road. So even though, yeah, you would expect him

884
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: to be more efficient because there's not really any weather issues,

885
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: but he's been generally been a guy does a little

886
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: better on the road in terms of efficiency. Uh, prop,

887
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 2: Let's stay with Marvin Harrison Junior receiving yards over under

888
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:32,959
Speaker 2: fifty two and a half.

889
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: That's exactly where I have it. Nice damn. Maybe Kyler's

890
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: worse at home because it's more Kenian to play call

891
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: of duty there everything, call of duty, conserracy, never gonna

892
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: miss man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna lean over. That's a

893
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: great line though. Week two's bounced back week. That's that's

894
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: my angle on this.

895
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: Oh no, I definitely is I have him? Uh yeah,

896
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: I have him right around four catches for fifty two

897
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: median with ohire on the average about in the high fifties.

898
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, with the just the intermediate to deep struggles,

899
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: I just worry. But they might they might like try

900
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: to feed him underneath just to get him going. But

901
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if the yard is just gonna be

902
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 2: there or not. It's kind of like a it's kind

903
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: of toss up. So that's where I wanted to to

904
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: get your opinion. That all right, let's close it out

905
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: with tight end Week two. Top five? Who do you got?

906
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: Oh boy? Oh? Top five is pretty normal Travis Kelcey, Tree, McBride,

907
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta, George Kittle, Mark Andrews.

908
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got Kelsey, Laporta, McBride, Pitts, Kittle, Pits and

909
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: up running around one hundred percent of the drop back,

910
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 2: so yeah, that was nice. He did catch a touchdown.

911
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: It's not like Kark Cousins can move, so you know,

912
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: I guess he's gonna have to throw the ball, not

913
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: pull it down. But yeah, what you're high on chigakoon Quo?

914
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: Last week? He ended up finishing as the tight end

915
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: six and just a dumpster fire of a week as

916
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: you match it for tight end? Who do you like

917
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: this week?

918
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? He finished tight end six? What do you have?

919
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Like five points? Then?

920
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: I think he half?

921
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh boy, what a disaster. Yeah, I'm high on

922
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst this week at Carolina, sort of a revenge

923
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 1: game for him, but I whipped on Hurst under twenty

924
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: one and a half receiving yards. I thought his prop

925
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: was a bit high, just considering we didn't know how

926
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: this title room would shake out in a run heavy offense.

927
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: But had I known that he was going to run

928
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: a rout on eighty percent of Justin Herbert dropbacks, I

929
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: absolutely would have not met on his under. So that's

930
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: a week one lesson love, you know, getting lessons and

931
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: being wrong in week one. But he is clearly the

932
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: lead pass catching tight end in this offense, you know,

933
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 1: taking over the Gerald Everett role, but this is also

934
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: an offense. It just has a ton of available targets

935
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 1: with you know, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, and Austin ne

936
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: Eckler on new teams. So I think there's an opportunity

937
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: for Hirst to push maybe not tight end one value,

938
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: but at least solid tight end two value if this

939
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: trend holds. So just give him the tight end landscape

940
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: right now. He's my tight end seventeen. But he is

941
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: a player that I was very encouraged with his Week

942
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: one usage. And if you know this week, you know

943
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers will probably be leading most of the game

944
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: at Carolina, but if and when they get in a

945
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: trailing game script, then they're kind of forced to throw.

946
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: I think Herst specifically, could you know, potentially put up

947
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: high end tight end two numbers.

948
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's my tight end seventeen as well. And I

949
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: saw that he ran rout right around eighty percent of

950
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: the time, and that's what you need at this position.

951
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm going for a similar guy and I hit on

952
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: the same guy last week, and I hit on him

953
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 2: despite him catching only four passes for forty seven yards

954
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: and no touchdowns. Kolbe park is it and finished as

955
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: the tight end seven with four for forty seven, so

956
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: I have him the top tight top ten, excuse me,

957
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: tight end yet again. Against Arizona, he ran around on

958
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: eighty two percent of staffords dropbacks. Now you have no

959
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: Nikoua for the whole game. He did run a route

960
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 2: about thirty percent at the time last week, so you

961
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: could see the target rate go up for Parkinson, as

962
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: you mentioned on I believe it was the Waivers podcast.

963
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just an ugly, ugly landscape. You have

964
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: the Joku banged up, you have Ferguson banged up. Likely

965
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: you know, you don't know if it's you know exactly

966
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: if it's going to continue, So yeah, you have to

967
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: have I think Parkinson's right. They were startable tight ended

968
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: one all right, at least a fringe guy this week,

969
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: and it can't be said about many guys, So yeah,

970
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: who are you going?

971
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Cole Comet? Hopefully this will be the last time I

972
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: bring him up on this pod, but he's a guy.

973
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: You know. I was low heading into the season just

974
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: because they added tart competition with Keen Allen and Romadoonza,

975
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: but also feared more of a you know, fifty to

976
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: fifty split with Gerald Everett. You know, he's more familiar

977
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: with Shane Waldern's scheme. And sure enough, I mean, Cole

978
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: Comett wasn't even the starting tight end. Everett was clearly

979
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: the lead tight end. It was a sixty five thirty

980
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: five split and routes run rate in favor of Everett.

981
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: So Comet just absolutely plummets down my ranks. Probably won't

982
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: have to talk about him again anytime soon. However, with

983
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, Duneesa potentially out this week and longer, it

984
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: could force the Bears to use more two tight end sets.

985
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: So Comett, you know, could have a better game this week.

986
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: But I think when it comes to this Bears tight

987
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: end room, it's clear that Jerald Everett is the guy,

988
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: at least for now. So right now, Comets all the

989
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: way down to tight end thirty one for.

990
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: Me, Yeah, he's it's tough to know. I mean, you

991
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: make a good point. They could just go a lot

992
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 2: more two tight end sets this week, but either way,

993
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 2: he would still be splitting the snapshoever, and at worst,

994
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: which is something like last year he was, he was

995
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 2: on he was the number clear clear number one tight end,

996
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I don't know. I don't know

997
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: what the Bears do. It probably will go more to

998
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: tight ends. SE's because I mean they had Tyer Scott,

999
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 2: who was expected to be their number four wide receiver inactive,

1000
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 2: so they don't. That means they don't really care about

1001
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: him that much. Vallas Jones they have him moonlighting, and

1002
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: running back DeAndre Carter is more of a special teams guy.

1003
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, they probably don't love their wide receivers after

1004
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: the top three. So I could see, I could see

1005
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: Comet jumping up in snaps, but also Kabb Williams three

1006
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 2: for ninety three yards last or whatever it was last week,

1007
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: some some terrible yeah either way, Yeah, yeah.

1008
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: This will be the last time I defend him. Every

1009
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: quarterback played like shit last week except for a handful,

1010
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: So that's the only leash I'm going to give him.

1011
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: But it was a terrible performance for me.

1012
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 2: It's another guy who just wrong end of a committee.

1013
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: Luke Musk He's he ran around on only twenty one

1014
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 2: percent of the dropbacks, played on twenty three percent of

1015
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 2: the pass snaps. Tucker Kraft ran around on seventy nine

1016
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 2: percent of the dropbacks and played on ninety five percent

1017
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: of the past snap so similar. You know, I not

1018
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: different reasons, but I just because my week Willis is

1019
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 2: the quarterback. I do expect the Packers to go a

1020
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: little more heavy. Uh you know, do do more closer

1021
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: to the line of scrimmage. But still Musgrave is on

1022
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 2: the wrong end of this committee. Last year he was

1023
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: he was kind of in that craft spot to open

1024
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: the year, and Kraft was a guy, you know, getting

1025
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 2: like twenty thirty percent of the snap So even if

1026
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: the even if it's like a fifty to fifty split,

1027
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 2: still not enough, especially with week Willis a quarterback, uh

1028
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: to trust Musgrave. So he's just completely out of relevance

1029
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 2: in any format for me right now? All right, tight

1030
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: en prop what are you doing?

1031
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: All right? This should be a fun one. Dalton kin Cade,

1032
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: What the hell was that? What was his finn stetline?

1033
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,439
Speaker 1: Like one catch for four yards or something? Yeah? Catch?

1034
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: Oh I missed that.

1035
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah I had a catch. Well let's uh, this is

1036
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: why week two is fun. Let's see they're at Miami

1037
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 1: Thursday night this week. Uh, I'm gonna set the line

1038
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: at forty two and a half receiving yards. Are you

1039
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: going over under?

1040
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good line. I have him under. I

1041
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: have him under, I have him about forty. Yeah, So

1042
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm hot. I was highing him this season. I thought

1043
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: he would be kind of he had like George Kittle upside,

1044
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 2: but you know, still a volatile kind of guy. He

1045
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 2: at least he had the route. The route rate was

1046
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: where I wanted it to be, right around eighty three

1047
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: for knocks. But Coleman also looked good. It's not one

1048
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: of these games, you know, even though it's a night game,

1049
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: humid hot, Buffalo always kind of struggles when they go

1050
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: into those humid, hot environments. It just could be a

1051
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 2: little more of a slog than we think. So I'm

1052
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: not ready to to give him a a a big

1053
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: stat line. I mean, in DFS, I think that's where

1054
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 2: you know a playm is a bounce back. But in

1055
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,959
Speaker 2: terms of median, I think, you know, I think forty

1056
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 2: two and a half is a great line and I'm

1057
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: slightly under. All Right, that is gonna do it for

1058
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,400
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