WEBVTT - 122: My Occurrence With Shea Serrano 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.040 I missed you, girl. 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.480 Girl, let me tell you something I missed you too. 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.280 Look at that tricep though you like that? Yeah, I 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.320 mean for a guy that doesn't even lift anymore, you 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:11.520 got a nice try try. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:13.520 I lift a little bit. I left a little bit. 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:13.680 Now. 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:15.560 You said you're just doing peloton, but you're not like 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:16.400 curling iron. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.200 Oh no, I got a couple of weights that I 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.040 curl every now and then, just to you know, keep 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:20.840 my shit quick. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.000 Oh. I just thought you were doing you were you 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:24.880 were on a quarantine trip where you were just like 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:26.239 Cardio nothing else. 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:28.560 No, I thought you were about to say carbs and 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.600 nothing else. Yeah, I'm doing that too though. 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.479 By the way, A lot of love, A lot of 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.919 love for the first animation we put out. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:37.800 I love it. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.400 I love it, and it's so funny. It's only thirty seconds, 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.160 but I've watched it like nine hundred times. 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.440 Yeah, it's like when we first heard the uh, when 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:48.839 we first heard the theme song. I remember how crazy 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.520 we were going for the theme song when we first 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:50.919 heard it. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.560 For those of you who don't know this company, Cartooner 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:58.280 Radio is an animation company in Brooklyn, and they did 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:02.800 an animation of Moment of Donald and my podcast of 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.360 this podcast, and they just you know, tagged us on 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.160 Instagram and we thought it was so funny. We hit 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.680 them up and said, you know, can we work out 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.920 a situation where we'll obviously pay you, but will you 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.400 do like some quick little thirty second moments from the podcast. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:21.280 And they thought that was awesome, and so now we 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:22.880 we're starting to roll some of them out. In the 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.560 first one we just put on our Instagram today, although 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:27.960 this was this was this was this will be like 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:29.399 a week, this will be a this will be like 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:31.600 a week later. But anyway, they did the moment with 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.280 Donald giving Jeff Zucker and noogies, and the animation is 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.240 so funny. Dude, your eyes are all. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:40.720 Fucked bloodshot, dude, Like they knew I smoked that ship 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.040 and they knew I drank that ship that night. 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:47.560 Well, we did talk about how fuck uff we were, yeah. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.280 But I didn't talk about how I smoked that ship. 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.480 Like when you when you drink, your eyes don't get 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:51.960 red like. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:56.320 That hot pink. But what they got, you, you know what 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.160 they got. Maybe they're listening and they got because another 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.960 episode I mentioned how when you're hammered you like this this. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:01.600 What do you call this? 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.120 When you do this? It's a high step. I got 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:05.640 that shit from you, though, dude. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.120 Right anyway, just a drunk high step. And then when 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.200 they in the animation, when you're headed over to Zuker, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:15.480 you're like, get over that. Shit's hilarious. It's funny out 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.840 loud and what I love about on Instagram. I'm sure 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.880 they're doing it on yours too. People are like saying, Oh, 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.239 you got to do this moment, Oh you gotta do 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.120 the washcloth to be you gotta do this. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:25.639 They are doing that. What's crazy is that I think 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.640 you need to tell each and every one of your 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:32.840 followers that you demand that they follow me or fuck off, because. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:34.959 I would never followers don't. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.720 I don't listen. I look at what your numbers are, 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.200 and I look at what my numbers are on Instagram, 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.880 and I gotta be honest with you, I'm a little jealous. Dude. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.520 You're assuming that they're all scrubs folks. They might be 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.359 some people that love Garden State and uh. 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.679 And so where are my clueless people at? Huh? Where 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.760 am I remember the Titans people at? Where my motherfucking 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.960 I'm telling you right now, where my motherfucking waiting to 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.639 exhale people at where my parents ransome people at, where 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.799 my tripping people at, where my listen. I'm gonna put 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:08.600 it out there, man, because where they at they need 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:09.120 to represent. 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.320 Where your Homie Spamoni people wear them. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.520 Homie Spamoni, where my next day people at? Yo? Come 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:15.120 on now. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.120 Homie Spamoni is a film that Donald made. It's basically 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.359 the plot of The Jerk, except instead of a white 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.800 baby being dropped off at a black family's home, Donald's 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.640 a black baby that's dropped off at an Italian family's home. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:27.800 Right. 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.079 No, no, no, I'm not even dropped off. They literally kidnapped 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:32.120 me pretty much. 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:33.200 Oh they kidnap you. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:38.440 Yeah. They find me floating in the river in Italy 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:44.720 and the mom kidnaps me like like Moses. Uh, well yeah, 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.000 I guess so. But Moses was you know. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.040 Wasn't Moses put in a basket. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.320 And yeah, trying to escape? 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:54.280 Yes, I have my old Testament? Right, Well didn't they 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.080 put Moses? Who the wife? 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.800 Yeah? No, Moses, and then Pharaoh's wife found her, found 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:01.160 him out. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.960 I went to Hebrew school. Now, Donald, I have a 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.200 question for you, Homies Pomoni for those of you who 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:07.840 don't know, will be. 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:11.080 Goldberg, the Great and the Great Paul Mooney, the great 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:11.720 Paul Mooney. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:15.400 Now do you Tony Rock? You do an Italian New 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:18.760 York accent? Right, dude, give us gamp. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.080 You want to hear a sample of my accent? This 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.599 is the character right, listen, all right, my name's Renato, right, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.159 and this is how we do things where I'm from. Okay, 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.760 it's very simple. It's almost like a New York accent too. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.320 It's like a New York you know. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:33.960 I've seen a lot. 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:35.800 It was a lot thicker back in the day when 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:37.800 I was doing it. It was so hard like it 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:43.360 was thick, you know. Jamie Lynn Siegler, right, yes, yes, 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:45.520 your love interest. She was my love interest on it. 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.760 She's like you sound like the guys I grew up with. 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.760 Oh that's a compliment because it was a compliment. I 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.560 think she's a Jersey girl, is she? I don't know. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.520 They got a lot of Italians in Jersey. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.480 Listen, I gotta tell you something. I've never seen that movie. 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.560 But if you, dude, you've never seen anything I've been 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.880 I've seen a lot of not bullshiting, man. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.440 I remember I showed you. Fucking remember the time. I 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.400 was like, yo, just watch remember the Titans on the Plane. 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:12.120 You got halfway through it and you were like, I mean, no, 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:12.760 it's cool. 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:15.520 That's not a true story. That's not a true story. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:17.760 I'm gonna watch that film because I know how much 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.839 people love it, and I love Denzel, I love. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.719 So you've never seen remember the Titans. 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.279 I have never seen Remember the Titans. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.040 See that's what I'm talking about, right there, guy. 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.440 But you didn't read the Garden State script, so fuck off. 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:32.360 But I saw the Garden State script and you don't. 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.040 You didn't even hold the script in your hand. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.400 Yeah I did. I know. 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.200 I said I would like you to read this, and 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:39.240 you said, are there any black people in it? And 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.200 I said there's two, but you're not right for them. 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.280 And I already cast method man And you said. 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.200 That I'm not going to read it. That's right, I do. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:48.320 That is true. But I will tell you this, what 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.400 a dick, dude. 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.760 I'm gonna watch Remember the Titan. You know I'm gonna 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.240 watch it tonight. We're looking for a movie for tonight. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.200 Yeah, please do all right, I'm telling you right now. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:00.800 I'm gonna lay it down. I'm gonna pay down the log. 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:01.120 You know you have? 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.400 Well my kick ass two people at yo? 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:06.320 Where y'all at? Kick cass too? If you Donaldson? Kick 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:07.520 ass too? Donald is now. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.840 Talking about Donald and where y'all at? 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.800 Oh, you're circling back to Instagram. Well, Donald, I'm sorry 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:16.080 that you're upset about this, but the good not upset. 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:17.240 I'm just a little jealous. 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.200 Well, I think that you should give some love to 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.120 the people that are following you and so they don't 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.040 feel like what we don't matter to you, Donald. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:24.720 No, they definitely matter. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:24.839 You. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.200 People that following me right now, I love you. I 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.560 love you traumatic to me. Yes, you are special to me, 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:41.400 and we together are building a great foundation and an institution. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.000 What is necessary right now is for you to tell 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:49.039 your friends that six hundred thousand isn't enough. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:51.800 Tell your friends, tell your wife. Listen. Today's a very 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:56.080 special episode of this show because today's the first time 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.080 we're having on as our guest, someone who was not 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:02.400 on the show, someone who had nothing to do with 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.800 the show, but I wanted to have him on. We 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.760 wanted to have him on because he's an incredible writer 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.520 and amongst many things that he's written. He's written a 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.320 self published book about scrubs that I'm going to promote 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.560 many many times. It's called Where Do You Think We Are? 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:21.920 And it's ten illustrated essays about scrubs and was written 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:25.080 by shayse Rano and it was illustrated by Arturo Torres 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.480 and it is really awesome. And he is I don't 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.600 know how well you know Shay Donald. We'll get We're 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.400 gonna get him on before you tell me any anything 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.520 about how you well you know him, But I follow 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.200 him on Twitter and he's very entertaining. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.360 I don't know. I don't know him well, to be 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.640 honest with you. But before we get into that five 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:46.640 six Stories, I'm that show we made about a bunch 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:52.080 of said he's a stories. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:56.320 So YadA. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:06.000 Ya wait for it. 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.320 There he is wait fresh cutting everywhere. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:15.080 There he is fresh. Therey is Oh man, it's so 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.160 nice to finally meet you. I am I am like 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.680 one of your one of your many many Twitter followers, 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:22.520 and I feel like I know you. But it's so 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:23.960 nice to finally meet you in person. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.280 Yeah, I'm excited. I'm really excited to be here. I've 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:29.280 been I've been waiting on hold since twelve in the 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.680 afternoon for three hours now just to I don't want 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:33.160 I don't want to miss it. I didn't want to 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:33.679 miss this one. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.680 You know, you've been sitting there. You've been sitting there. 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.200 We didn't put you on hold. You just this was 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:39.960 like a self proclaim hole. 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:41.559 Yes, I want to get He didn't want to fuck 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.760 up Donald. So he's been sitting there with his mic Now, Shaye, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.520 before you say anything, I got to tell you. I 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.080 was doing research for the show on you because I 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.920 know you for being very popular on Twitter. I encourage 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.520 you to follow Shae and we'll get his handle out 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.240 before the show ends. But he h, I'm reading all 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.320 about you and your career is amazing. But I I 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.080 started reading like he wrote. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:03.560 Uh. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.960 This is second book was called the Rap Year Book, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.160 the most important rap song from every year since nineteen 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.960 seventy nine. Then he's got another book called Basketball and 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.680 Other Things that Obama said was one of his favorite things. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.520 And then he's got another And I'm sitting here going 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.120 I'm gonna lose Donald Faison to share like I'm sitting 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.559 here being like this was a this was a bad idea. 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.200 The man has written best selling books on rap and 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:29.400 basketball and I'm going to lose. 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.360 Him and you know what I love and you know 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.440 what I love? 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.040 Oh shit, you know what. What's what's funny is is, uh, 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.520 I got a chance. I met Donald one time. I 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:40.360 don't know if you remember. 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.200 I do remember. I remember look his book. Before I 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:45.679 even read the book. 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:46.800 Oh you read it? 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.200 Oh okay, so I didn't read hold On. 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.880 He read the whole thing. 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:57.880 Yeah. So, but before before I even knew that it existed, 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.920 Zach was like, you were coming on and I looked 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.880 you up on uh, I googled you, and I was like, oh, 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.719 I met this dude. I met this dude. And when 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.920 I was going to do first take, I thought you 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.120 were going to do first take that day. Also, but 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.400 I also met you. Your wife was with you, right, 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:14.920 is that your wife? Yeah? And she and I got 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.720 to talk a little bit more than you and I did. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:18.960 But I remember, I mean, and then I read the 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.280 essay and you made it seem like you were like 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:25.320 all crazy, like holy shit, holy shit, you got a 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:26.280 little bit cooler than that. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:30.800 Now in my head his head, yeah, absolutely, inside of 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.160 my head. There's only been a few times in my 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:33.160 life I was Starstruck. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.760 But it was me, Denzel Washington and Michael Jordan. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.520 I know, I know, I know, I know, I'm watching 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:39.959 you walk in that room. I don't know if it's 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.720 because I was surprised or because I had just finished, 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.680 Like I was already working on the Scrubs thing, so 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.160 I had gone through the whole series again, whatever it was. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:48.440 But yeah, when you walked in there, I was like, 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.960 holy fucking shit, Like I was trying so hard not 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.600 to not to wig out. 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.800 You took you were there for You were there for 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.360 a book, right, You were there for another book, but 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.440 it was it wasn't the rap book. It was the 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:00.680 basketball book right now? 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.880 Was the basketball one? Came out in twenty seventeen, October 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.520 of last year. I did movies and other things, movies, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.320 and so that's when I was in I was in 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.840 New York, you know, doing all the press stuff. 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.080 Okay, Rich, I'm sorry before we. 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:17.040 Talk, little word in Edgeway. See, this is what's gonna happen. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.679 This is my nightmare, right Joelle. They just suddenly they 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:22.640 turned my mic down and they just go off. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.679 Well, I just wanted to get into the basketball thing, 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.640 get into you said, you think my game would be 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.360 more like, like you imagine my game being like PJ. Tucker. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna agree with that. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:33.840 I'm gonna agree I knew it. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:35.920 I'm gonna agree with that. I'd watched enough. 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.559 Yeah yeah, yeah, a lot of jump shots, some defense, 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.360 very competitive and talks a lot of shit. Yeah that's me. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:44.720 That's about right. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.520 I wish I had a little bit of a you know, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.600 a silkier game. I wish my game was more like 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.560 Klay Thompson. But PJ. Tucker was spot on. Man, he's 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.679 a he's a great uh. I don't even know if 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.520 you would consider him a role player. He's just like 0:11:57.559 --> 0:11:58.760 a glue guy, right. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.920 Yeah, he's in a sin player on that Rocket team. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.800 I lived in lerrman, I lived in Houston for fourteen years, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:06.600 so we were there like when he showed up. And 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.720 then he's one of those guys who, like, if you 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.160 go to the city where he's playing, everybody there just 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.559 fucking loves him. Yeah, because all the stuff he does. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.240 Yeah, Now, Shaye, I have a question, do you know, 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.920 do you have your book? Like could Donald about your 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.440 wrap book? And Shaye is everything he writes becomes a 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:27.120 best seller, including the Rap Yearbook the most Important rap 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.920 song from every year since nineteen seventy nine, discussed, debated, 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.400 and deconstructed. Billboard said this was one of the best 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.120 one hundred best music books of all time, which, holy shit, man, 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.560 congratulations on an accomplishment like that. 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:42.400 Round of thunderous applause. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:46.320 Yeah, Dan, please put in some thunder's applause. You won't 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.880 hear it, Shay, so just imagine it. It's just it's 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.800 like a stadium. You listen to the podcast, right, Shaye. 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:54.120 I've seen you on so you know you know how 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.040 Dan really brings the thunderous applause. Now, Shay, if Donald 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:00.319 were to say, because Donald loves rap, if you were 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.080 to like mention a year, you don't have this memorize, right, 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.679 or do you? If he would just say, like if 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.960 Donald were to be like, all right, ninety seven, would 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.640 you be like, oh, this is what I wrote about that. 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.080 I believe, so ninety seven is puff daddy. If I'm 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.840 not mistaken, which one I want to say, you. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:18.320 Can look it up. 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:20.920 It's so good as sad as I am about how 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:22.640 much how well you guys are hitting it off. I 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.200 just feel like once this rap conversation starts, It'll be 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.280 Donald's favorite conversation in the world because he really really 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.520 loves rap, like as long as I've known him. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.480 Yeah, it's the best music in the world. It was 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.000 a can't Nobody Hold Me Down? 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.040 Can't know okay with him and Mace, with him and. 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.880 Mace, Yeah, Okay, that was that one because because that 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.400 was when when when rap had like they were doing 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.120 the whole shiny suit thing. It was like it became 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:48.079 all about opulence and. 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:51.360 High bullium and the high Williams of Mint music videos, right. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.600 That those ones came a little bit. Yeah, so right 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:55.080 right around then, I remember. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.440 Around ninety seven, I just picked ninety seven. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.800 Can't Nobody Hold Me Down? Was a wasn't a HiPE 0:13:58.800 --> 0:13:59.800 william Yeah, I'm. 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:01.880 Miss saying because I was when I was peeing fresh 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.400 out of college. I was peeing on rap videos in 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.120 New York and I don't really know the music that well, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.240 but I remember like HiPE Williams was a god at 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.880 the time. And that's just right around the time all 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.600 those Mace Puffy videos were coming out. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.040 That was the one where they went in the desert, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.760 right And isn't j Lo in it too? 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:18.120 Yeah, she's in that one. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.320 Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah, all. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:20.640 Right, Donald, do you want to pick a year now 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.240 that he's got it up, just pick sure? 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.480 I mean, but I mean, okay, ninety two, that's a 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:25.960 hard one. 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.400 Nineteen ninety two, Oh, like I don't have I don't 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.120 have the book up. I was looking at the song 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:33.400 I wanted to me to put you on I didn't 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.080 mean to put you on the spot. I just wondered 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:38.600 that you knew, ye that's no voice. But I will 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.240 say I know, like I know. Ninety two was nothing 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:41.880 but a g thing. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:43.320 That was wow. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.520 Yeah, there was a right, that's a great, great record, man, right, 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.040 record that was really really good. That Chronic was one 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.520 of oh my gosh, man, there were a lot of 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.240 great albums that came out, though. I feel like in 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.080 ninety two, you know what I mean, that was it. Yeah, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.520 I graduated, I think from high school. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.040 I'm pretty I liked that song rolling down the street 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.600 smoking and sipping on gin and juice. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.160 That was so that's not the Doggie style album. And 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.320 there's like there's like a constant debate between which is 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.240 a better G funk album, between between the Chronic and 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:15.280 Doggi style. 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:16.920 Both the dope man. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.280 Pick one, Pick one? Which one do you want to 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.240 listen to right now? 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.600 Ship man? Well, because no, because what happened is with. 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:27.960 To do it. 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:31.520 What happened is it's hard, man, because Doggie Style, Nate Dogg, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:37.400 all these cats are on that record. Man on this 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.960 it's hard because you know what, I take it back, 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.400 I go chronic. But just because of Deep Cover, I 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:44.400 could feel it. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:46.520 I heard that ship. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:48.560 I remember when Deep Cover of the movie came out 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.040 and that song was on the deep Cover soundtrack, and 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:53.320 my boy played me that ship and we listened to 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.320 that ship over. We listened to that song over and 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.800 over and over again. And this is before the beef 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.480 with East Coast West Coast stuff, and it was just like, Yo, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.240 this is the this is the dopest thing I ever 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:04.920 heard in my life. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.760 Yes, it's one of the one of those moments where 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.720 you like, I've never heard something like this, Yeah you're 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.760 snoop sort of lollygagging out into song like who yeah 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:13.320 is this guy? 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.720 Yeah? Yeah that and the beat was fucking fire and 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:20.320 fucking and then the cook was yeah, and you don't 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:25.560 stop because it's one eight seven on an undercover cop was. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.840 Still ever make a documentary about this because I read 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:28.680 that there was talk of it. 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.960 Did they ever make it a documentary about you? 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:31.680 Of your book? 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.320 Oh? Yeah, yeah yeah. So what happened is a production 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:37.280 company got the rights for it, and then we signed 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.960 up with the Roots. They became like executive producers on it, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.520 and then they sold it to We sold this series 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.280 to AMC and they did a six episode thing where 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.480 it was like six episodes. Each episode was about one 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.920 particular song. They're an hour long, and so it became 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.960 like a videover. It was really cool. I got to 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:55.280 go out to New York. They did like a concert, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.080 The Roost did a concert before that, and then they 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.080 showed the the one of the episodes is the one 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.400 that they did on on Jesus Walks, and it was 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:05.600 it was really really cool to. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.040 What It's so cool because as I'm listening to you 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:08.640 talk about it, I mean, I just think it would 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.000 be such an amazing I can understand why it be 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.640 amazing series. I wouldn't check that out. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:13.840 I definitely yeah, it was great, you know what as 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.080 neat is. So they we got all signed up and 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:18.160 they like, we sold the series and they started working 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:19.960 on it and they gave me a phone call and 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:21.359 they're like, hey, do you want to call in, and 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.840 like we're brainstorming and helping out doing whatever, and I 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:25.600 was like, oh yeah, yeah, like that'll be cool because 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.640 I like I know a lot about REP. We're doing 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.240 this whole thing. And I called in and Black Thought 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.960 and quest Lever both in there and like everything that 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.680 somebody brought up, like I had like a third hand story, 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.440 like oh yeah, I heard a story about a party 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.639 that happened at this thing, and no matter what it was, 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:42.439 Quest Lever Black Thought, they were like, oh yeah, I 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.720 was at that party. I rode to I was like, okay, 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:47.960 I don't want to I don't want to help anymore. 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.040 Like yeah, guys, clearly you got this. I was gonna 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:50.440 fall back. 0:17:50.960 --> 0:17:51.680 That's amazing. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.080 Yeah. You know, I've been at some places like where 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.000 crazy things happened, like and I was just I just 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:01.679 happened to be there when the things happened, like you 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.679 know what I mean, Like I was at the party 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:07.240 where Biggie got killed. You know what? Yeah shit, yeah, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:08.280 yeah yeah. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:09.760 Did you did you did you hear like. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.480 The yeah, I heard I heard gun I was outside, 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.600 so I heard the gunshots. I also I spoke to 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:17.040 him before all of it happened. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.480 Oh shit, you never told me this. You saved this 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.720 for Shay. Dude. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.720 You're not a hip hop You're not a hip hop. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.080 I mean, I'm not a hip hop dude, but I'm 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:26.760 a pop culture fan. You could have told me you 0:18:26.760 --> 0:18:27.680 were at that fucking event. 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.199 Yeah, dude, I was at that event event and I 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:33.040 spoke to him, and then the next morning I found 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:34.840 out he was there. I actually found out that night 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.439 that he had gotten shot. Somebody came around the corner 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.440 and told me, you know, yo, they just fucking got big, 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:41.640 and I was like, get the fuck out of here. 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.639 And I remember telling Ricky Bell from Bell Bib Devaux 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:46.320 and he was like, shut the fuck up, dude, you 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.639 don't know what you're talking about. And then the next morning, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:50.800 my boy Dion Richmond called me up on the phone 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:53.639 and was like, Yo, they killed big last night. And 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.680 I was like holy and and I was like, holy shit, 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.959 I was there, dude, I was. I spoke to him 0:18:58.040 --> 0:18:59.840 right before, you know what I mean, I've did this 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.120 couple of instances, like I was at Nell's the night 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.200 all that shit went down with Tupac and the girl 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.320 on the dance floor and stuff like that. Like I 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.240 was at the I was at the club hanging out 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.119 with my friends and stuff like that, and I was 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.400 there like just a bunch of things. Man, it's weird. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.040 It's it's my connection to hip hop runs deep. 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:17.200 Man. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.480 I love I love it so much. And when I was, 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.119 when I was younger, I would be You would frequently 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.560 find me at some of these events that were considered 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.520 you know, later on that were considered iconic or pivotal 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.480 moments in artists careers, especially in Tupac's and bigs. Those 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:36.720 were two big moments. One one was the death of 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.679 one and one was where everybody started looking at somebody 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.399 as a true troublemaker, which was bullshit, but that was 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.160 that was what. From that moment on, Tupac's lane shifted 0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:50.800 from you know, actor rapper to activists to you know, 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.639 his whole run with death Row and the whole East Coast, 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.919 West Coast Beef and all of that stuff. A lot 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:58.879 of it stemmed from that moment. 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:00.480 He wasn't even do you think anything. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:05.320 I wasn't that, I wasn't I don't know right right, you. 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.480 Know, like that butterfly effect thing when one thing happens 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:08.800 and then it causes everything to happen. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.080 If I take myself out of the equation, everyone would 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.479 have got everybody would have got Donald. 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.720 Donald like bumped into some waiter who then got into 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.440 bad mood and was rude to Tupac, and all of 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:19.200 a sudden. 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.840 All this shit happened because Donald did do either of 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:27.000 y'all follow a writer named Cheo Hadari Coker. No, Okay, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.920 so he he like works on a ton of stuff, 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:33.120 but he like worked on the biggie movie Low Riders, 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:34.720 creed to like a bunch of the stuff that I like. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.800 So I started following him. But just today he was 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:39.280 talking about, uh, I think it was today, Maybe might 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.600 have been last night or yesterday, but he was talking 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:46.439 about when when Tupac did Juice, And he was saying, 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:48.879 like when he got the role of Bishop, which is 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:50.439 like the guy who causes all the trouble in it, 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.560 Like that was the beginning of his like gangster rapper, 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.920 Like it's set him on that path, right, Like that's 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.359 just crazy to think about, Like a little thing like that, 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:00.000 you know what I'm saying. 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.960 Yeah, I was in Juice. I had a really tiny 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:05.879 role in that movie. And the one thing I remember 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:10.119 the most about that movie was the premiere and after 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:15.520 seeing it, and you know, Tupac walking into the it 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.680 was like a Lows on forty second Street or something 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:20.280 like that. It was in Times Square, I remember that. 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.400 And he walked into the area where everybody was being 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.320 let out of the movie, and it felt like he 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.680 had like the glow around, like the Bruce Leroy glow 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.280 around him, man, because you just knew at that moment 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:32.760 he was out of here. Man, Yeah, he was just 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.159 out of here. That's when I became a fan of his, 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.439 you know what I mean, Like as an actor, I 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.760 you know, checked on his stuff all the time, all 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.119 of the movies he made and stuff like that. When 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.119 I was younger, I remember thinking he's a better actor 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:46.200 than he is a rapper, dude. 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:50.120 I remember thinking that's like an argument you could honestly, 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.359 legitimately make like he was unbelievable as an actor. 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:55.760 Yeah, yeah, he was a very good actor. 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.560 So she tell us like how you came to Scrubs 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:04.000 and this this book, because I just I was so 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:06.320 moved by a lot of that. I mean, it's funny 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.800 your book, but also there's moments I was reading and 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.639 that they would give me goosebumps, cause you articulate moments 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.320 in Scrubs. Sometimes I think better than moments and Scrubs 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.679 even were we right? And no, I mean and I 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.760 appreciate that. We love what a fan you are. And 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:25.120 I was reading something you wrote about the episode we're 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:28.200 going to talk about today, my occurrence, and I got 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.240 goosebumps when you wrote it. It was about it was 0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.000 about when I find out that Brent Fraser's character has 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.520 leukemia and Judy's standing there, and I'm not bullshitting you. 0:22:36.520 --> 0:22:38.960 When I rewatched the episode today, it was even more 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:40.720 moving than me. It was really unique. It was a 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.760 really unique experience because I don't even remember the moment 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.360 And then I read your essay in his book where 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.480 do you Think We Are? And it gave me goosebumps. 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.399 And then I rewatched the moment today and I was 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.800 so much more moved by it because I had your backstory. 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.359 So so I encourage you, if you're a Scrubs fan, 0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:58.120 to get this book. But anyway, I just wanted to know. 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.679 It's a long question, but how did you come to Scrubs? 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:02.040 And then how did you come to write this book? 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.800 I came to Scrubs late. This was this was back 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:07.919 when it was on Netflix, so it's a few you know, 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.840 several years ago. I didn't. I had never really I 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:12.800 didn't watch it when it was like on ABC or 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.560 NBC or anything like that. But I started catching it 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:17.600 when I think it showed up I got a Comedy Central, 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.560 you know, on one of those like cable channels. I 0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:22.359 was like, this is this is like a cool show, 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:24.440 but there was no way to like rewatch the whole thing. 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.639 You just catch whatever episode you can. And then it 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.160 popped up on Netflix, and Laramie, my wife, she also 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.280 likes to shows, were like, oh, let's like I haven't 0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.439 seen like the first four seasons or something. Let's sit 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:36.959 down and watch it. And so you like, that's how 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:38.479 it started. It was a few years ago, and then 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.240 it just became one of those shows that we watched 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:42.840 our whole way through it. We we like fell in 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.399 love with everybody on there. And it was one of 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:46.720 the ones where it was like, it's been a long 0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:48.840 day and I needed to like unwind and relax and 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.560 I need to like feel some emotions of some sort. 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.879 So let me put put this one on because I 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:56.879 think and I wrote this in a thing, but I 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.760 think Scrubs is the best TV show ever at like 0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:02.480 balancing between those two worlds. You'll talk about it a 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.680 lot of the time, like how hard of a transition 0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:08.240 that is to make from going from something like totally 0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:14.600 silly and like ridiculous immediately into something just outlandish or 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:19.679 you know, like crazy serious. So that's how we started 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:23.000 watching that show, and it just became like like a ritual. 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.480 Every so often we're like, we're going to restart Scrubs again, 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.240 We're gonna watch it, and then that's gonna be like 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:27.679 what we do. 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:28.600 Right. 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:31.000 I love it And you and your wife getting debates 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:32.879 about the show. I saw, and part of the book 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.919 is an email conversation you have about whether or not 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.919 she likes JD or not. And I really appreciated your 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:45.320 point of view more than Larmer because Laramie, Laramie loves 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:47.920 the show, but it's JD's not her favorite character. And 0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.560 I appreciated Shay debating why he should. 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.120 Be Yeah, yeah, that's like yeah. So that we started 0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.280 watching the show, and I realized, like you watch a 0:24:57.320 --> 0:24:59.440 show and depending on like who you are the type 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:00.919 of person you are. Just watched it a little bit 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.440 different than everybody else, and I realized at some point 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:06.320 that we were very much watching the show differently. I 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.159 was watching it waiting for like the JD moment to happen, 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.040 when you like make your eyes water or you like 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.840 say a thing real seriously, and she was watching it 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.960 for like for like a Turk and Carlo situation or 0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.879 or a doctor Cox situation or whatever, and so like, 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:21.680 we should let you know, let's talk about this a 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:22.080 little bit. 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:23.600 And that was my. 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.600 Favorite, my favorite. I was skimming through the book because 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.560 you know, I'm not but. 0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:30.840 You don't take it personally. He skimmed through the scripts 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.000 for the episode one. 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.000 I'm not a great reader, and my attentions, my my 0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:41.960 attention focused on to if j D and Turk were 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.119 to ever do a buddy cop movie, what would it be? 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.119 And you go through a bunch of a bunch of 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:50.560 lists of what movies and I immediately went for Running 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:53.439 Scared with Billy Crystal and Gregory Hines, Like that's the 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.719 immediate one I went to. And I was like, I 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.280 bet you he doesn't have that on the list, And 0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:59.600 sure enough, it's right there. On list. 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.720 We always over the years, we've always talked about it's 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:07.280 never happened so far, but we've always talked about wanting 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.680 to do a buddy cop or buddy movie of some 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.800 kind together. I was obsessed with trying to do like 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.800 a Spies Like Us thing, because I thought Donald and 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:19.520 I could really do. We both love playing guy way 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:22.560 in over his head and the idea, and like, I mean, 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:24.760 I don't want to. I would never dare to attempt 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:26.440 to remake Spies Like Us because I love that movie. 0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:28.879 But the premise of that, like two spies that are 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:30.680 are fuck ups that get in way over their head, 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:32.440 I thought Donald and I would be really funny at 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.080 But but it's funny that you wrote a section of 0:26:35.080 --> 0:26:36.760 the book about that, because Donald and I always talked 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:37.879 about wanting to do something like that. 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.440 Yeah, but like, yeah, go ahead, man, oh, I was 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.000 gonna say. That's how you could tell. I was like, 0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:44.119 I had just finished up the movie book at the 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:46.639 same time I was doing the Scrubs thing, and I 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.000 had rewatched all of like Buddy Cop movies, and I 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:50.920 was like, oh, this is like this makes too much sense. 0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:52.040 She didn't work. 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.400 It does make sense, man, I think Turk and JD 0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:59.840 would and and it really comes through Zach on the episode, 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.320 first episode that you directed, where we're doing the whole 0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.879 heathogram thing. It really comes through there, like that's a 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.480 buddy cop movie or a buddy comedy in itself, right there, 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:14.399 these two dudes going to adventure and it's a silly 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.200 one too, so his boy can get some ass, you 0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:16.840 know what I mean. 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.520 With a letter from Elia. Actually, Shay, you wrote that 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:21.840 in the in the book a little bit too, because 0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.320 you're talking about Molly Shannon's character in that episode. And 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.080 that's one of my favorite episodes ever. I Uh, we 0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:28.800 bring it up a lot because it was a pivotal 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:30.439 moment for me because it was the first one I 0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.359 got to direct, and it was it was epic and 0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:35.720 Donald and I went on a quest that all took 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:37.720 place over in one night. You know it for budget, 0:27:37.760 --> 0:27:39.879 most of the time, we would you know, be confined 0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:41.719 to the hospital with with going out a little bit 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:44.320 here or there. But you know, it's very expensive to 0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.840 bring a full film crew out into the real world. 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:48.920 And and sometimes what Bill would do is he'd sort 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.639 of save up so we'd have episodes that were mostly 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.560 contained to the world of the hospital and then he'd 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:56.600 use the budget money he'd saved. Then we'd do like 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.040 a big ass one. That's why they'd be like the 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.000 Wision of Oz or the medieval times or this one 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.920 with Heather where we were, you know, out all night long. Yeah, 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:08.120 I wanted to ask you, Shay, how I wanted to say, 0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.439 just before we get into the episode. I really am 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.960 impressed by how hard you hustle and work. And you know, 0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:17.280 we're both on Twitter. We're all on Twitter, and I 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:19.639 always see a lot of writers asking you for advice 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.040 and how do I do it. I'm just so impressed 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:26.960 with how hard you work. You write your ass off. 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:31.040 You then go off and you really talk to your 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:34.240 followers and say, hey, support the cause. I'm here working 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.280 my ass off and I made a thing I think 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.520 you're gonna like. And I don't know, I just I've 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.560 always been impressed by how hard you work. And I 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.600 wonder if you, if you wanted to, could speak to 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.560 that for I don't know for anyone. It could be 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:48.480 about anyone trying to go after their dream, but you 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:49.880 you particularly do it with your writing. 0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:53.240 Yeah, well, I think that's that's probably like an extension 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.360 of several different things. We grew up, like we live 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:57.840 in San Antonio now that I grew up like on 0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:00.960 the other side of town, we were like real poor. 0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:04.640 Nobody was like finishing school or anything like that. So 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:06.680 like that's always in the back of my head, like 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:08.440 if shit goes wrong or if I make like a 0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.240 few mistakes, we could fall all the way back there. 0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.400 So that's that's part of it. But also like in 0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:17.880 the in the case of the the Scrubs thing, like 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.320 this was a thing that I was publishing independently. That is, 0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:23.520 you weren't going to find it in bookstores. The only 0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.320 way anybody was going to find out about it was 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.760 directly through me at the at the start of it, 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.240 you know. So like I'm not gonna just sit there 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.440 and cross my fingers and hope somebody like bats their 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:34.560 way into it. Yeah, it's not you know, I'm trying 0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.880 to be like the guys at the at the fucking 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.920 mall that comes spraying you with perfume, you know what 0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.360 I'm saying, Like I'm gonna be that. I'm gonna be 0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:45.000 that kind of salesperson. 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:46.360 Or the guys in New York with the rap album 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.720 they always trying to get you to buy there. 0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.160 There strong dude. That's the strongest hustle level, because there's 0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:54.040 a part of that hustle is also like strong arming 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:54.440 you too. 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.000 Yeah, I know, I always do it. 0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.880 I always do it because I feel so bad. By 0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.840 the time you've walked two blocks with them, you're like, dude, 0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:01.600 I'm okay, okay. 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.040 You there, slick. They're say they're smart. They're like, hey, 0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:05.880 hold this for me real quick. And then you hold 0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:07.840 it and they're like, all right, that's seven dollars. Like 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:08.400 what the fuck? 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:14.280 Even I wasn't. I wasn't even I wasn't even trying 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:15.400 to buy it, dude, I was. 0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.560 But they're the best salesman, those guys, because by the 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.320 time you've walked a block of them, you're like, yeah, ye, 0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:20.880 I do need to hear this. You're right, that does 0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:21.400 sound good. 0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:28.720 Sometimes sometimes it's like, dog, okay, just give me that ship. 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.880 But then they're like, Donald, come on, Donald, keep it real. Donald. 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:31.440 I seen. 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.160 This is what I hate because I get a lot 0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.600 of this. I've seen you in the movies. Dog, don't 0:30:35.640 --> 0:30:40.320 let me. Don't fucking let me down. Now I didn't 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.440 let you down. Don't let me down. 0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:47.040 All right, Well, I always think, you know, in my career, 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.400 the things I've done that you know, you have to 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.880 put yourself out there. You have to really you know, 0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.920 I've write my own stuff. You get turned down a 0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.240 hundred times, and you just got to keep going and 0:30:58.440 --> 0:31:00.600 keep fighting for it and keep believing yourself. And I 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.440 think that's one of the reasons I really like what 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.480 you say and do on on Twitter, because you do 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.880 a lot of philanthropic things as well, but you're also 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.760 someone who's just like, I'm gonna do this on my own. 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.280 Sometimes sometimes a publisher will publish it. Sometimes I'll publish it, 0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.480 but like I'm always going to be doing my own hustle, 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:15.680 which I really appreciate. 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.280 Yeah, thank you, Thank you very much. 0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:21.160 So guys, we're getting the episode. But go buy Shay's book. 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:27.280 It's called go to the website Sacred Heart Gang dot com. Correct, 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.240 if you go to sacred If you go to Sacred 0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.200 Heart gang dot com, you can buy the book. It's 0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.680 a PDF you can download. It's twenty bucks. It's really 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.120 worth it. It's amazing. I've seen some people on online 0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:39.920 or are printing it out and kind of making their 0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:44.920 own their own book. Out of it, but support independent writers. 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:49.200 He self published this with amazing illustrations by Arturo Torres, 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.080 and I can't I really recommend it if you're a 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:56.800 Scrubs fan. It's it's very, very entertaining and even the 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:57.800 parts Donald skimmed. 0:31:58.080 --> 0:32:01.200 Can we talk about the illustrations real quick illustration. They 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.600 they kind of look like the New York Times. I'm 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.640 not the New York Times the Wall Street Journal. When 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.040 they draw the pictures like they look like when somebody 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.600 sits in front of you and poses and stuff like that, 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.000 they're very they're very lifelike, almost. 0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:15.520 Like like a portrait. 0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.120 Yeah, kind of kind of like a portrait. Yeah, absolutely, yes, 0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:22.080 especially the one with Brendan Fraser on the for the 0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.200 title of the book. You know what I mean with 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.959 the inside, when you get to that moment and you 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:28.800 even say at that moment, I didn't want to talk 0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.080 about the you know, I hate talking about this, and 0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.800 Zach you before we get into the store, I wanted 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.160 to say this. Also it made also me watching the 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:41.320 episode again, it made it more impactful for me because one, 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.840 I knew how it was going to work out the 0:32:43.880 --> 0:32:47.000 way you laid it out in the book. I knew 0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.400 how it was going to end up, not only because 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:54.520 I was in it, but because of that. But but 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:57.560 but it made it more impactful because what the way 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:02.520 you described all of what was happening, Uh, you really 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.840 told the story. Well my point, you know, well. 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:07.520 That's good writing when you're like when he's he's he's 0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:10.440 writing his thoughts on something we were a part of. 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.840 And I never had this experience before. I mean, I 0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.280 guess occasionally when someone writes a good review of something 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.400 you've done, maybe it's similar. But you're writing his thoughts 0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:22.200 on this moment, and it made the moment for me 0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:24.360 as a part of it more impactful. I thought that 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:24.960 was really good. 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.440 And then even where and then even where it stems from, 0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:30.280 how you bring it back to the episode where we 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.040 lose you know, where one in three patients die when 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.520 they go into the hospital and everything like that, how 0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.320 you connect the This is how Scrubs fucks you up. 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:40.520 They fuck you up by making you think you know 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:43.520 everything's all right, everything's all right, everything's all right, and 0:33:43.560 --> 0:33:46.080 then just when you're feel like you're out of the 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.520 woods and you're safe, they drop the fucking hammer on you. 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:49.040 You know what I mean? 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.840 And by the way, this is how good Shaye's writing is. 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:57.840 He preempted Brendan Fraser being on this podcast. So I 0:33:57.880 --> 0:33:59.840 want you to know, Shay that we and I'm telling 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:02.600 bouncing to the fans right here and now, that the 0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.640 next episode will have Brendan Fraser on this podcast. 0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:07.040 That's perfect. That's perfect. 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:09.200 So we want Shay's gonna come on and we're gonna 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:13.720 talk through Brennan Fraser's first episode. Then the next episode 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.319 we're gonna have Brennan Fraser come on and uh and 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:19.879 talk about it and then uh, well eventually I guess 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.719 it's season three, we'll get to uh, the big one. 0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:24.880 That's a lot of people's favorite episode of all time. 0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.840 This also when Brendan spoiler alert dies. 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:33.399 This also is kind of a it's precursor the right 0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:37.520 word to that episode. Like this whole episode pretty much 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:38.719 is a dream, dude. 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.239 That I didn't even remember that by the way, you know. 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:44.359 What I mean foreshadowing, Yeah, a lot of foreshadowing, right 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:48.600 I I I didn't remember that either. And I've truly 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.120 went on this journey with JD through this whole episode 0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:56.680 of him trying to, you know, rationalize why this oh 0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.319 this is a false positive test. This test isn't it's 0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.640 not to code. They're fucking up all day. 0:35:01.760 --> 0:35:02.000 Yeah. 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:04.080 I even made a note, and I even made a note, Wow, 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.439 Sacred Heart is making a lot of mistakes. Yeah. 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.279 Yeah. And also, by the way, first of all, I 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:12.680 was so fucking uncomfortable with Judy hitting on me, and 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.719 I didn't remember that at all, but because Donald's my 0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.400 best friend in the world, I was nervous that his 0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:22.600 TV wife was hitting me. I was like, my stomach 0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:25.799 was getting uncomfortable. And then I noticed a very subtle thing. 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:27.319 I don't know if you guys noticed this, because I'm 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.560 just very aware of the cinematography. I don't know if 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.640 it was Larry Trilling who directed by We mentioned that 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.560 Bill Laurance wrote this one and Larry Trilling, one of 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.920 our favorite directors, directed it. And there was this weird 0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.799 sort of a very subtle filter on the camera for 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:45.880 that fantasy, that long dream sequence, and I didn't remember 0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.800 that it was a dream sequence. I remember, like Jesus, 0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.680 why is this. It's usually a filter you would reserve 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.240 for a close up of a woman of a certain 0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.400 age where you wanted to maybe soften her wrinkles, a 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:57.439 little bit or her eyes. But if you go back 0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.279 and look, it's on that whole sequence. And I was 0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.520 kind of like, why is why is this filter on? 0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.319 Like what? And then I was like does this just 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.680 look weird on my computer? Like what's going on? And 0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:08.759 then when it was revealed that the whole thing is 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.520 a is a fantasy, I was like, Oh, that was 0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:12.600 like a little subtle thing. 0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:12.759 You know. 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.600 There's lots of little subtle things either, but that's one 0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:15.960 thing I noticed with the cinematography. 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.360 It makes you want to go back and watch it again. 0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:20.799 It's a good show. 0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.680 Show Thank you, thank you. 0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:23.799 Well. 0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.640 I'm telling you when you get chased, when you guys 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:28.600 get Shay's book, you're gonna want to when you read 0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:30.839 his essays, then you want to go back and go, Okay, 0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:33.440 now I got to rewatch that episode with this with 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.080 this essay in mine. All right, we're gonna go to 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.320 break and we'll be right back. 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.360 And back. We're back. 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:48.200 All right, we're gonna go into this episode. 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.120 Guys, all right, I got one thing to say when 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:52.360 we start off, What the fuck? How do why do 0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.960 we have like a cheese plate with a meat cheese 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.080 meat plate the size of like when you go to 0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:02.239 a party, you know what I mean, Like, it's it's 0:37:02.239 --> 0:37:05.680 our cheese and and and we and we got like 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:10.400 the rous version of cheese and meat. Like it's only cheddar. 0:37:10.600 --> 0:37:15.040 It's only cheddar and American and white white cheddar, yellow 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:16.800 cheddar and American cheese. 0:37:16.840 --> 0:37:22.280 And then it's the worst cheese, proast, beef turkey. It's 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.880 cold cuts, rolled up what kind of that? 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.319 And we're drinking wine with that, And this is our 0:37:30.360 --> 0:37:32.719 and this is our night out from the hospital. 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.959 It's our big fancy night. And Judy and Carla says 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.799 she got a nice bottle of wine. And then Donald's right, 0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.040 if you freeze frame at five seconds on the plate 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.319 we're talking about, it's basically cubes of cheddar and rolled 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:51.120 up cold cuts. Well, maybe maybe the rationalization was that 0:37:51.480 --> 0:37:53.040 we didn't know we were just we were like, we 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:54.960 were so busy being doctors. None of us are cooks, 0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:56.719 and we're like, oh, we're gonna have like an adult night. 0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:57.880 That's what we do. They have. 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:00.920 So this is a good example of like one of 0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:02.800 the one of the reasons I like to rewatch the 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:04.480 show so much, because every time you rewatch it, you're 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.480 gonna find like another little neat thing in there. So 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.799 I noticed that she's saying same same as y'all did 0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.680 when I rewatched it yesterday, and I was like, the 0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:15.799 only person in this room who is upset about the 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.960 situation or the setup is Carla, which makes sense because 0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.040 she for that whole first season, second season, she's like 0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.640 the adult in the room. Yeah, and the other and 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.360 and the other three are just sort of pretending to 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.000 be adults, so they think like, this is what is 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:30.759 supposed to look like. 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:36.839 And probably Shaye, probably Turk and and UH and JD 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:41.680 were probably tasked with getting a nice cheese place. We 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:43.759 went to fucking the supermarket. We're like got one of 0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:48.520 those round jobs. Meanwhile, she went to the liquor store 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:49.640 and bottle expensive. 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.239 Right, and then we still fucked it up for how about? 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:56.960 I mean, I feel bad talking like JD knowing so 0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.320 much about what celebrities are are naked and what move movies, 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:04.760 But it was pretty funny when he's like frontal and touchus. 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.920 They have something like that on the playboard. I mean, 0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:12.359 never mind, this. 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.600 Is obviously before a website has existed, so it does 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.480 come up in the episode, But I don't think we 0:39:16.520 --> 0:39:18.600 should actively advertise. 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:20.279 Them unless you want to hear it. Let us know. 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:24.480 Okay, hit up Donald on his Instagram on hit. 0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.640 Me up on my Instagram, but you gotta find only 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.280 I will only respond if you follow. 0:39:30.440 --> 0:39:32.320 But make sure you follow him because he's very upset 0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.000 about his follower count. But uh, if you really, if 0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:36.680 you don't want to take the time to google it, 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:38.440 just ask Donald on Instagram. 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:39.640 Share you want some of this, man, We could we 0:39:39.640 --> 0:39:42.600 can hijack we can hijack some of Zach's followers, man, 0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:43.360 and get them on. 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.680 On my followers. He's blowing up. 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.640 What did Shay share some of yours with me? Brother? 0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:53.040 Yeah? All right, one day one twelve, I was kind 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.919 of taken, and I think this comes up in your essay. 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:58.360 Say if I'm not mistaken. But we finally see Cox 0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:00.160 like someone. 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:00.680 Yeah right. 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.000 It seems that he seems to never like anybody or 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.960 at least be snarky with anyone and everyone. This is 0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:10.799 this is sort of the first time that he's really uh, 0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:13.920 we see how much he genuinely is no bullshit has 0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:14.360 a friend. 0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.800 Yeah, that's really It's really like an interesting creation of 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.880 a character is to put somebody in in his Orbit 0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.759 who just sort of takes away all of his like 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.920 protective armor immediately, like he has another friend. Later on 0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.040 the show, Michael Boltman's character Ron when he shows up 0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:33.440 and they're like clearly close friends, but but at the 0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.279 same time they're like poking each other in the eye 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.640 every once in a while with something. But Brendan Fraser's 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:39.839 character Ben is the only time we see him where 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:42.040 he is just wide open and like just having a 0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:44.120 good old time and he loves Yeah. 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:48.839 It really mirrors the JAD And it's like his Turk 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:51.759 in a way, just solely in the fact that like 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.480 they're on you know, they're hugging, and they're and they're 0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:59.319 joking about hugging and and they're just very they're being 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:01.640 playing silly games, the thing with the card on their head, 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.120 and they're just like they're unabashedly themselves. 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.560 Yeah, all of the things that doctor Cox says annoys 0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.080 him about JD. Yeah, the things that Brent like he 0:41:10.440 --> 0:41:13.520 talks in the voices, he's very affectionate, and I'm saying 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.840 like like, oh, this is like you begin to understand, 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.440 this is like why he has such a fondness for 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:21.640 JD is because he reminds him of this camera. 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.480 That's great, Shay. I really love that analysis. And I 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.840 didn't see it, but it's funny. I was watching Brendan 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:30.120 Fraser's choice in this character for the first time in 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:33.600 twenty years, and he is playing it very goofy and silly, 0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:36.759 and it's very JD like. And it's funny that you 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.000 say that that I never thought of it like that. 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:42.480 It's like you're seeing even though Cox has to keep 0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:46.040 it down because he has to be Cox to JD, 0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.919 there is the there must be some aspect of JD 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:51.440 that reminds him of his good buddy. 0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:53.640 You know, there's no question about it, There's no question. 0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.200 I like when I go at the bar one twenty three, 0:41:57.200 --> 0:42:03.719 when I go neat Hug. Yeah, what a fucking tool, 0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:04.440 Neat Hug. 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:09.879 This is something that kind of bugged me the whole 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:12.879 time we made this show, but later on hindsight, being 0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:17.520 twenty twenty nowadays, it's I wish, I'm so happy that 0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.800 this happened. But Brendan Fraser brings a camera into the 0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:25.000 episode and it's a polaroid camera, old school polaroid, old 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.080 school polaroid camera, and I'm not sure if we were 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.560 doing this before or if this is where it started, 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.640 but because of this moment right here, it's like I 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.560 have polaroids from you know what I mean. 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:40.480 I can't answer this. 0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:45.359 Okay, let's let's let's get into it, because I I 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:49.160 was wondering, we have all of these memories on celluloid 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:53.560 because because of someone bringing a camera and then it 0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:54.440 became an. 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:55.200 All began with this. 0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:56.600 Is this where it began? 0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:58.600 Yeah, So here's the thing. Krista Miller and I are 0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:02.040 both photographers our hobby, and we both are camera geeks. 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.680 We love new cameras, we love old cameras, will like 0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.960 send each other eBay listings of cameras. She's a really 0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.759 talented photographer and I like to think I'm not too 0:43:10.760 --> 0:43:14.520 bad myself. When Brendan Fraser came in, this was his 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.759 real hobby, shooting with these old school polaroids. As you 0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:21.279 guys see in the movie, the kind of polaroid film 0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:23.399 not that just comes out automatically. You pull it out 0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:24.880 and then you got it's like shake it like a 0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.880 poloraroid picture. These you actually did have to wait for 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:29.040 a minute for them to cook, and then you'd peel 0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.480 it off and then'd be a beautiful a shot. And 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.120 this camera that he's shooting with was actually Brendan's and 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:38.200 he brought it in and of course, and he was 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.200 taking pictures. All the pictures you see at the end 0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.279 of the episode in that tin that he has, we're 0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:45.839 all shot by him over the course of his week 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.200 hanging out with us. And then Christa and I got, 0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.520 of course, got so into it. We're like, oh my god, 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:52.600 we got to get one of those. Where do we 0:43:52.600 --> 0:43:55.960 buy them? And then over the years, Donald that you 0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:58.799 have a lot of polaroid pictures because I have a 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:01.800 bunch of these cameras now right, And I'm sure I'm 0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:03.839 sure Chris has given you some too, because she does too, 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.359 but the bulk of the ones you have, I'm sure. 0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.200 I got super into it, and I was going on 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.560 eBay and buying all these old cameras. That's why. That's 0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:12.080 that's it all started with this. 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.200 Okay, So all right, that's what I was, That's what 0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:16.520 I was running because it got ridiculous too at some point. 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:20.000 At some point, it was like a battle between everybody 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.799 who took pictures on the fucking show to bring in 0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.080 their new toy. You know what, I mean, whether it 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.560 was a lika or a cannon, or a fucking or 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.359 a point this is the This is the Rolls Royce 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.200 of point and shoot, or this is the. 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.319 How do you think I feel when you're talking about 0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:40.520 your new animation gadget? But listen, I it. 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.680 Wasn't I don't go to you, dude, Man, I just 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:46.360 fucking got a c stand. Man, I'm really excited. I 0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:47.959 don't hit you up and do that ship. 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.439 No, But on your Instagram you post shit like I'm doing. 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.160 All this is on the ones and I just got 0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:57.560 this new gadget called l R two five nine. You 0:44:57.560 --> 0:45:02.000 think I give a funk how you're animating? Just showed 0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.040 me to show me to finish product. 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:07.560 Now. 0:45:07.640 --> 0:45:09.600 But He's right. In addition to Christ and I, there's 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.799 also a huge camera department and and uh and with 0:45:12.880 --> 0:45:15.200 also you know, everyone in the camera department loves cameras. 0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:16.440 So yeah, there was a lot of camera talk on 0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.919 the side. I'm sorry we annoyed you with that. 0:45:19.040 --> 0:45:21.360 It wasn't annoying. I look back at it now and 0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.279 I'm so grateful for it because I have all of 0:45:23.320 --> 0:45:24.480 these memories captured. 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.279 Yes, now I want to know why JD. Who's we've 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:29.920 established as a very good doctor, all beit young is 0:45:29.960 --> 0:45:32.120 passing out at a nail in someone's hand. I mean, 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.480 hasn't he seen far with things? 0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:36.520 That ship is gross s though, no matter how you 0:45:36.560 --> 0:45:41.200 look at it, man, really how you for some reason he's. 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:42.920 He's fucking cleaned out people's rectums. 0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.960 Yeah, but when the ship's still in you, that's scary, man, 0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:47.960 because it has to come out. And when it comes 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:52.000 Look you see in the movies, all right, you ready, one, two, three, 0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:53.440 and then they pull it and the person it's like 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:00.359 that was the first thing I thought about, Like they 0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:01.480 got to take that shit out. 0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:03.759 It didn't cross your It didn't cross your mind. Well 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.640 as I understand it. Being a fake doctor, you don't 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:08.200 want to pull it out before you get to the er, 0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.760 because then that's what that thing is, stopping the blood 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:11.600 from coming out. 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.000 In some cases, yes, in some cases. 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.160 By the way, I'm gonna take this as medical. Please google, 0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:18.440 Please google the right thing to do. 0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.200 Listen, because in some movies when dude gets shot with 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.359 the bow and arrow or something like that, or or 0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.840 or or get stabbed with a knife. Yeah, and they 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.640 got to make the escape there, you know, it's the 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:32.560 eye cont it's the close eye contact and everything. They're 0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:36.120 looking face to face and they're like, all right, you ready, 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:43.080 I'm ready on three, one, two, you shut on three. 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:50.080 That's true. Well, anyway, I thought it was surprising that 0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:53.400 there's the episode begins with j D passing out at 0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.799 a nail in someone's hand, like he literally faints. He 0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.600 literally faints like a like a person in old movies 0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:04.879 faints right, like be still, yeah, like like yeah, back 0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:05.279 of hand. 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:06.320 The vapis. 0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:11.799 Now there's a real thing in hospitals, you know, mix 0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:13.919 ups are are I mean, they've they've taken all these 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:17.040 steps in the intervening years between this show and twenty 0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:21.960 twenty to make sure that fuck ups are very, very 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.920 very rare. I just started watching this show on Netflix's 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.000 a documentary show if you're into real doctor situations called 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.799 Lenox Hill, where they're following around real doctors, and I 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:33.880 just noticed that they go in to do brain surgery 0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:36.080 on someone and there's those whole process where they're like, 0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.000 they're like, we'll be doing this on the right side 0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:40.640 of the brain. Does anyone hear right? Raise your hand 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.400 if you heard right, And there's this whole system in 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.279 place now where the nurses are like, I heard right, 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.120 I heard right, I heard right, and they're like sign 0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.480 he signs his name on the woman's skull before the surgery. 0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:54.000 Like my point is everyone in the medical community who 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:55.400 listens to the show is laughing at me because I'm 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.160 explaining it so horribly. But it made me think of 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.319 that because there's so many systems in place now to 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.560 make sure fuck ups happen less because it is a 0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:03.440 thing in hospitals. 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.360 But it's also really funny how they figure out the 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:08.759 mess up was happening, you know what I mean, Wait 0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.959 a second, I imagine that this guy is Jewish, Yeah, 0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.360 of course he is. Then why isn't his penis circumcised? 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:19.279 And then Todd runs in, Hey, doctor Wynn wants to 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:21.640 know if there's some sort of mix up because our 0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:25.360 appendix surgery doesn't have an appendix. And then he walks 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:27.200 into the room and he's like, can you believe what 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:32.840 the whoa it's going on here? That shit made me 0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:33.399 laugh so. 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.080 By the way, I laughed so hard, But I did 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:39.840 it understand something? I mean, I laughed so hard that 0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:42.920 But isn't it just an uncircumcised phoenis? Why is Todd. 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.279 Why is Todd so freaked out by uncircumcised? 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:48.520 He's he's not freaked out by it. But what it 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.440 is is, it's it's you know, the person's covered in 0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.000 a complete uh cheat, right, and it's covering their whole 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:56.920 body and the only thing sticking out and there's a 0:48:56.960 --> 0:49:00.759 big light shining on it. Obviously is this dude's I 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:04.240 can't and his balls and his balls? Yeah. 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:06.240 But by the way, Donald, if you if you fans 0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:08.799 are listening, go back. You can see when when Rob 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:11.319 comes in and says, WHOA, what is going on here? 0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.160 You can see Donald under his mask start to laugh 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:18.800 and like, Donald, I can see you biting your fucking cheek. 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:23.640 That ship was hilarious. 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:27.279 He's fucking dude. Man. I forgot how I say this 0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:32.920 over and over again, Robert Macio, Holy shit, I forgot 0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:36.040 how funny he is. Man. And we used to we 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.799 used to fucking fuck with him all the time and oh, 0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:41.800 let's go run line and everything. But he fucking crushes 0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:44.239 it every time. Every time. 0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:47.000 Dude, that's the funniest line on the show. WHOA, what 0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:48.080 is going on? Here? 0:49:48.280 --> 0:49:49.279 Is going on here? 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:51.399 Even in my brain I was thinking, like, well, why 0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.840 is he so surprised to see PTUs? But Donald? 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:55.879 Oh Man. 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:57.480 Then I looked at Donald and I know that look 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:02.359 better than anyone. That You're lucky that he's like he's 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:04.200 like his face is like strutched up like this. 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:13.280 Nicole Sullivan's back, Krista Miller's back on this episode. 0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:14.319 Yeah, Christ's back. 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:20.239 Yeah, then Nicole Sullivan's story you know, uh, Shay, you 0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:22.840 can speak on this also. This was one of those 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.680 things where you throw her in there just so you can, 0:50:26.600 --> 0:50:30.200 just so the audience remembers. Okay, there's this character, and 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.560 we have plans for her later on and to make 0:50:33.560 --> 0:50:36.359 this connection, to make to make what happens to her, 0:50:36.400 --> 0:50:38.960 to make you feel it more. We're gonna introduce her 0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:42.120 on some silly shit just so you're comfortable, like, oh, 0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:44.479 this is just somebody who comes into the space, into 0:50:44.520 --> 0:50:48.400 the universe for Elliott to make funny jokes with, and 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.120 you kind of don't realize. Okay, at the end of this, 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.280 something's bad's gonna happen, even though we're laying out the crumbs, 0:50:54.280 --> 0:50:56.200 you know what I mean, something's you know. 0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.239 Yeah, she talks about that in his book actually with 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:01.600 with the Brendan ar of it all about how Bill 0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:04.879 wasn't was totally not afraid to play the long game 0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:07.279 with these people, right say, like like they laid the 0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:09.640 foundation from Brennan and then that episode is now until 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:10.719 two years later. 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.960 You know, So that's the like, the one question I 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.560 wanted to make sure I asked when I came on 0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:18.680 here was when y'all are doing that stuff with with 0:51:18.680 --> 0:51:21.360 with the d Coole Sullivan character or with the renin 0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:24.480 Frage character, do you know ahead of time? Like okay, 0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:27.280 and in fucking three years, this is when we're gonna 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.359 get rid of no of you just sort of. 0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:31.279 Well, we should throw it to Bill. Let's throw that. 0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:34.120 Yeah, well let's let's throw the Brennan one to Bill, 0:51:34.120 --> 0:51:37.240 because that's what I was thinking about doing that as well. Bill, 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.120 When you had Brendan on in season one for these 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:43.759 two awesome episodes, we have Shae Soronald here, and of 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.799 course Bill knows who you are, Shay, because he wanted 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:49.880 to I see him hitting you up on Twitter as well. Bill, 0:51:50.360 --> 0:51:52.480 was was it your intention that you would kind of 0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:55.080 play the long game and then bring Brennan back in 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:59.080 season three for the episode Everybody Loves at the funeral 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.959 was that on your are this far out and because 0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:05.040 we're because you know, we're talking about also Nicole Sullivan 0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:06.919 character and how one of the things you did really 0:52:06.920 --> 0:52:09.239 well and Scrubs was not be afraid to play the 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.800 long game with these characters. But first, well, Bill, please 0:52:11.840 --> 0:52:13.360 don't don't don't, please. 0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:14.279 Don't do the six seven eight. 0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:19.880 Hey, guys, I guess we'll just continue this relationship in 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.319 which you only reach out to me when you need me. 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.000 And I'm supposed to feel good about that. 0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:28.160 No, I do feel good. 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:32.120 Look, Brendan, he's an old family friend, a good friend 0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:37.719 of Christ's. And when we brought him on, initially we thought, wow, 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:39.840 that's back when we kind of bring guest stars on, 0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:41.839 get to know him and kill him. But we thought 0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:44.279 it was kind of a good enough thing to give him, 0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:50.080 uh leukemia and you know, kind of see doctor Cox 0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:52.080 rise to the occasion and deal with it. The first 0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.520 episode is based on a short story called Occurrence at 0:52:54.520 --> 0:52:57.680 al Creek Bridge by Ambrose Beers. If anybody wanted to 0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:00.920 look that up. Second episode, it's just cool excuse to 0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:04.880 use the worthless peons. Ted's band and all you guys 0:53:05.200 --> 0:53:09.840 and Brennan was so good when he agreed to come back. Uh, 0:53:09.880 --> 0:53:12.520 it was perfect because we were able to do you 0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:16.040 know that sixth sense homage. So we always knew we 0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:19.239 wanted to kill him, but we hadn't planned. Uh we 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.120 had hoped, but hadn't planned for him to come back, 0:53:21.120 --> 0:53:23.560 and when that happened, it's one of our favorite episodes ever. 0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:26.600 All Right, we were we have a fan that we're 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.919 gonna take new commercial and then we come back. 0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:31.960 Do we ever go to fan and then go to 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:34.360 commercial after the fan? How come we always got to 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:36.360 go to commercial before the fan? Is this? 0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:36.600 Like? 0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:40.600 Is it because and it's a seg it's a segment thing. 0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:41.920 I got it, it's a segment thing. 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:44.839 Yeah, I mean there's when Joel we first started making 0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.279 the show, Joel had a very organized list of the 0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:49.600 way the show would go, and since all we do 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:52.200 is ramble all over the fucking place, we just occasionally 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:53.520 asked her if we should commerce. 0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:56.800 I know, but it's always like, it's always a tease 0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:58.920 though for the it's always a tease for the people 0:53:58.960 --> 0:54:01.279 listening to the podcast. Oh we've got a listener here, 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:04.280 let's you know what, we should probably go to fucking commercial. 0:54:04.320 --> 0:54:06.400 But I think that. I think that. You know, on 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.120 real TV shows and radio shows, you want to you 0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:11.080 want the audience to stay on the line, right on, 0:54:11.280 --> 0:54:14.759 right on the fishing line. When we come back, we're 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.200 gonna have an exciting caller. 0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:18.120 But we don't do it that way. We never do 0:54:18.200 --> 0:54:18.560 it that way. 0:54:18.600 --> 0:54:20.160 We always try it that way. Let's try and sell 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:21.359 it this way. Do you want to try and sell 0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:24.520 it like pretendant? They might change the channel or switch to. 0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:26.279 The No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. 0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.640 Don't you touch that down. When we come back, we'll 0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:29.360 have a caller. 0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:41.440 Don't you touch that down. We're back in two and two. Oh, hi, guys, 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:47.680 what's up? Gentlemen? It's Dylan and who else is Dylan? 0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:51.759 And came there's your official Oprah voice. Guys. That's the 0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:53.279 price you get for making it on the show. You 0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:54.840 get an Oprah voice intro. 0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.959 Dylan and Cam. Where are you guys at It looks 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.360 like you're like in a bunker underground. 0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:04.440 Yeah. Yeah, we have a little bar area in our basement. 0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:06.200 We're kind of hunkered down right here, but we're in 0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:07.439 a lacrosse with gods. 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.000 Okay, Wisconsin in the house. 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:13.640 Noise, Well, welcome guys to the show. We we we 0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:16.600 have Shae Serrano joining us, who's written an awesome book 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:20.520 on Scrubs and incredible, uh best selling author, and he 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:22.880 probably knows more about Scrubs than Donald and I. But 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:26.520 so definitely you can well that's because Donald smokes a 0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:28.520 lot of weed. But you can ask us any question 0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:30.279 or maybe you're off. Are you off this hour? Though? 0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:32.600 Do you mean did I smoke today? 0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:34.800 No, because there was a couple of podcasts ago you 0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:36.400 said you were taking a break from weed, and I 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:37.280 wonder if that's stuck. 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.320 No, that didn't didn't take. 0:55:40.719 --> 0:55:43.000 Didn't take that night. 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:45.520 That night I went back to the well. 0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:46.239 Uh. 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.000 He always tries to brag Shay. He's like, yeah, I'm 0:55:49.040 --> 0:55:50.719 off weed. I'm like for how long? He's like an 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:53.000 hour starts that? 0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:54.319 How it starts one step at a. 0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:56.160 Time, One step at a time. 0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.720 All right, Dylan and Cam, what's up? What's your question? Guys? Welcome? 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.400 Yeah, good to be here. Man, really big fans and 0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:05.000 a really huge fan of too Well. 0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.360 Yeah, great, you guys. 0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:14.920 Have do you guys up the printed it out for 0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:17.960 you for you listeners. They held up Shay's book on 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:20.480 the office. Uh, and they had printed it out and 0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:22.600 binded it. So these guys are real fans. 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:26.120 Oh I love Yeah, I love she probably my favorite author. 0:56:26.200 --> 0:56:30.040 Yeah that's all right, thank you? Oh wow, nice Shay. 0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:33.399 All right, A question for I guess it's probably gonna 0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.160 be for Shaw, But Donald and I are here too. 0:56:37.200 --> 0:56:39.080 So I guess it's you guys going to hop in 0:56:39.160 --> 0:56:42.800 with this too. But for Shay. So you've written obviously, 0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:46.480 Conference five Minutes, for the Office, you've written where do 0:56:46.480 --> 0:56:49.359 you think we are? For Scrubs? Is there another show 0:56:49.360 --> 0:56:51.839 that you've been thinking about or is there maybe one 0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:54.680 that maybe Donald or Dak would really like to kind 0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:55.680 of see from you as well? 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:57.799 Oh that's good. I like I like my part, But 0:56:57.880 --> 0:56:58.760 you go for a show. 0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:01.839 There hasn't been one that I thought of yet. Usually 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:03.600 whenever I'm working on one of these, people will like 0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:07.080 start tweeting me, Oh, do the wire do arrested development? 0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:11.000 Do you Sons of Anarchy or Madmen or whatever? But 0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:13.880 most of these things just sort of happen organically, Like 0:57:13.920 --> 0:57:16.919 I've been I've been watching Scrubs for so long. I've 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:19.280 seen it so many times. It was like, well, you know, 0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:22.160 let me let me do something with all of the 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:24.000 times I've watched it, and then it becomes like, oh, 0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:26.240 I was actually just working hard all of that time 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.080 instead of just sitting around watching TV. You know what 0:57:28.120 --> 0:57:28.520 I'm saying. 0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:30.240 Yeah, that's a nice way to spend it. You're like, 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:33.200 You're like, I wasn't wasting those hours. I was writing 0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:33.560 a book. 0:57:34.080 --> 0:57:36.479 Yeah exactly. I mean there's like one hundred and eighty 0:57:36.560 --> 0:57:39.960 something episodes of the show you watch point ninety hours 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:42.840 of TV that you've seen four or five times all 0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:46.680 the way through. But yeah, usually just if a show 0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.080 will grab a hold of me, then I then I'll 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:49.440 write about it. But I haven't. I don't have any 0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:51.520 plans right now to do to do another. 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.000 One, all right, I have a nice Which one do 0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:54.360 you want? Which one do you want him to do? 0:57:54.840 --> 0:57:56.640 I was just well, the whole time he was talking, 0:57:56.720 --> 0:58:00.800 I was half listening and half thinking. I think. I think. 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:02.920 I don't know if you watch the show, Shay Donald, 0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:05.800 I don't think watches it. But I really loved Atlanta. Oh, 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:09.720 Atlanta's great, and I think it's ripe for analysis because 0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:13.680 it's got so many trippy storylines and so much social commentary, 0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:17.240 and I just I just think it's incredibly done. 0:58:17.440 --> 0:58:19.000 Yeah, that's a really that's a really good one. But 0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:22.040 they're not done yet. It doesn't till they're done. Yeah, 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:23.640 you gotta wait till you get Now, The Wire, A. 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:25.920 Lot of people say The Wire is I have to 0:58:25.960 --> 0:58:28.600 admit I only watched season one, so please don't yell 0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:30.720 at me. But a lot of people think that's the 0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:32.760 greatest TV show of all time? Is that? Is that 0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:33.919 on the top of your list? 0:58:34.200 --> 0:58:37.680 Yeah, that's absolutely on there, The Wire, Breaking Bad Soprano, Like, 0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:39.800 you know, all of the all of the main ones. 0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:41.600 Right, I've never seen any of these shows. 0:58:42.200 --> 0:58:42.720 You haven't. 0:58:43.080 --> 0:58:45.320 No, you've never seen You've never seen Breaking Bad. 0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:48.800 No, No, you only watched wat We only watched the finale. 0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:50.000 It's the only episode you ever saw. 0:58:50.240 --> 0:58:53.080 So here's my thing. Here's my thing. I have a 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:56.320 hard time investing in shows because what happens is either 0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:59.440 they get canceled or they disappoint you in the end. Right, 0:58:59.480 --> 0:59:02.880 that's my that's my issue with things. I hate when 0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:05.280 you know something, there's a cliffhanger at the end of 0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:08.960 the season, and then the show gets canceled and you 0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:11.480 don't get to finish, you know, and then. 0:59:11.560 --> 0:59:14.320 Surely there's a series. What's a series that you watched 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:16.280 like that, you just loved all of it? 0:59:16.440 --> 0:59:17.360 The Clone Wars. 0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.600 It's got to be Star Wars. It's only Star Wars. Yeah, 0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:21.959 I mean. 0:59:22.680 --> 0:59:26.920 That that that well, yeah, you know that was. 0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:29.640 Anything non Star Wars. No. 0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:34.760 No, Like you know, Bill Lawrence used to say it 0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:37.240 all the time, and it's so true. You you tell 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.720 people when you when people meet you and they say, 0:59:40.840 --> 0:59:43.400 I'm such a huge fan of your show, not out 0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:45.360 of the ten times, they've only seen it like a 0:59:45.360 --> 0:59:47.920 handful of times, you know what I mean, and haven't 0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:53.280 seen it more than that, And so I fall in 0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:57.120 that category. If I were to see Brian and Aaron, 0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.280 it would be like, I'm such a huge I was 1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:02.840 such a huge fan of Breaking Bad. I only saw 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:04.680 the final episode. 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:06.120 I wouldn't let you admit that. 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:08.520 I already told them it's all over the air now 1:00:08.560 --> 1:00:10.360 that somebody's gonna come back to him and say that 1:00:10.400 --> 1:00:13.760 shit now, But you know what I mean, Like, like 1:00:13.840 --> 1:00:16.040 I watch every now and then I'll check out a 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:19.800 CW show, right, Like I love superhero movies, right, so 1:00:19.840 --> 1:00:23.160 I'll check out The Flash, or I'll check out Legends 1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:28.360 of Tomorrow or I'll check out, you know, Arrow, and 1:00:29.120 --> 1:00:32.439 I've only seen, like, you know, out of all of them, 1:00:32.760 --> 1:00:38.000 I've seen maybe you know, thirty of them total, like 1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:41.080 of all of the show's total. But when I see 1:00:41.440 --> 1:00:44.560 the actors and stuff in it, I genuinely do love 1:00:44.880 --> 1:00:46.840 what I have seen. So I'll be like, I'm such 1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:49.120 a fan of your show, even though I've only seen 1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:49.720 each show. 1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:52.400 So the message for all those actors is that Donald 1:00:52.480 --> 1:00:53.880 is totally bullshitting you when. 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:57.760 I'm telling the honest to goodness truth. I like a Supergirl, 1:00:59.000 --> 1:01:00.919 I have seen that time you like it? 1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:03.560 What about about Smallville? 1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:06.400 I only saw that show a couple of times also, 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:11.080 And I'd like, you know, because Angel, which one was 1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:11.720 dark Angel? 1:01:12.240 --> 1:01:14.760 This one with Jessica album, I didn't watch that one. 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:16.080 I didn't watch and I never do. 1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:18.400 You also used, didn't you used to watch? There was 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:21.200 a sci fi show you Battlestar Galactica. 1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:23.360 I take it back, if you do Battlestar, Yeah, you 1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:27.440 should do Battlestar galact Yeah. 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:28.400 I ever watched Battlestar Galactica. 1:01:29.080 --> 1:01:32.200 There we go, Thank you, Zach, thank you. I remember, 1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:33.280 I remember, I got, I got. 1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:35.040 I was searching my brain for you I was like, 1:01:35.080 --> 1:01:37.280 I know, there was one sci fi show you actually watched. 1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:39.480 There wasn't a fucking Star Wars animated cartoon. 1:01:39.880 --> 1:01:42.640 I remember I got into an argument with my uh 1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:47.800 girlfriend at the time because I thought she uh taped 1:01:47.920 --> 1:01:50.680 over my Battlestar Galactica episode. 1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:56.560 I remember, did you watch that one? Shaw? 1:01:57.000 --> 1:01:58.040 I did not watch Battlestar. 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:01.720 You guys, Dylan cam did you watch a Star Yeah? Yeah, 1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:03.360 Well do you guys like it? 1:02:04.160 --> 1:02:07.520 Yeah? I might. Super big and like sci fi by 1:02:07.520 --> 1:02:10.040 that one, I was pretty I think as. 1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:13.800 Far as like sci fi shows that people have liked, 1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:16.400 that's one of those ones everyone says was canceled too soon, 1:02:16.440 --> 1:02:17.200 and people. 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:20.720 Katie Saccoff is a She's a g if you ask me, 1:02:20.800 --> 1:02:22.320 you know what I mean. Like, she's one of those 1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:25.240 action heroes that is a good Like she's straight up 1:02:25.240 --> 1:02:29.800 as a true action star who deserves the opportunity to 1:02:29.920 --> 1:02:32.600 carry some project. They say she's going to be in 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:37.640 The Mandalorian this upcoming season as a Bocatan, which would 1:02:37.640 --> 1:02:38.840 be really fucking dope. 1:02:39.200 --> 1:02:40.880 My grandmother used to live in book Rattan. 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:46.160 Right, Well, these characters, these these characters all travel from. 1:02:46.120 --> 1:02:48.960 Does it take place at an old Jewish community. 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.480 Center and can eat an ass. 1:02:51.800 --> 1:02:55.760 Joel, do you watch Battlestar Galactica because you like the 1:02:55.800 --> 1:02:56.720 sci fi stuff? 1:02:56.920 --> 1:02:57.400 Yeah? 1:02:57.480 --> 1:03:00.480 I came very very late to Battle Star Galactica, currently 1:03:00.480 --> 1:03:03.840 in the middle of season one, but really loving it. 1:03:03.840 --> 1:03:06.560 It's amazing, It's excellent, good writing. If you're a Star 1:03:06.680 --> 1:03:08.680 Trek and or Star Wars fan, you'll probably find something 1:03:08.800 --> 1:03:10.120 like in Battlestar Galactica. 1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:14.440 All right, So guys, to finish that question off, do 1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:17.720 you have a show that that like you would love 1:03:17.840 --> 1:03:20.200 Shay to one day do a book about. 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:22.680 Each We're gonna ask both of you each each. 1:03:23.200 --> 1:03:27.640 Yeah. First, okay, I would love Breaking Bad personally. Breaking 1:03:27.680 --> 1:03:29.280 That would be really sick. I think it's a really 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:34.920 really good show. Yeah, that would probably be my top tooice. 1:03:34.960 --> 1:03:36.440 Maybe Parks and Rock would kind of be a more 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:39.680 fun one. I'm more lighthearted, but I would probably say 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:41.080 Breaking That would be a really cool one. 1:03:41.320 --> 1:03:42.280 All right, how about you. 1:03:43.360 --> 1:03:45.240 I'm always been a Jewish fan of the show Dexter. 1:03:46.440 --> 1:03:48.640 I would love to see you do that in my opinion, 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:52.720 and born in the show start and then kind of 1:03:52.800 --> 1:03:55.280 drop cop right to finish where I think Breaking Bad 1:03:55.320 --> 1:03:57.400 is better in the series, But I think that's best 1:03:57.840 --> 1:03:58.160 is better? 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:00.360 Yeah, I think I think that's that's I kind of 1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:03.440 fall in line with Donald of kind of a slight 1:04:03.440 --> 1:04:04.640 disaployment at the very end. 1:04:04.720 --> 1:04:06.960 But yeah, I was gonna say that's one. That's another 1:04:07.000 --> 1:04:08.960 show where I only watched the last episode and I 1:04:09.000 --> 1:04:09.560 was like, what the. 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:17.280 I've heard? 1:04:18.000 --> 1:04:20.360 That's bullshit shady When Harry Matselly. 1:04:20.360 --> 1:04:21.840 That's a totally different example. 1:04:21.960 --> 1:04:25.560 Do you remember when Billy Crystal when she's asking when 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:29.080 when she when he tells her how how dark he is, 1:04:29.120 --> 1:04:30.919 and he's like, I read the end of the book 1:04:30.960 --> 1:04:33.880 before I start. That's me with movies. That's me with 1:04:33.920 --> 1:04:37.480 television shows that everybody's train But that's me with television 1:04:37.480 --> 1:04:39.840 shows that everybody's like, you should watch this, you know 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:42.480 what show you would like, you would like this show now. 1:04:42.360 --> 1:04:45.040 But you missed, you missed like the whole build up 1:04:45.240 --> 1:04:48.240 of everything, like you can't. Okay, we're talking about Nicole 1:04:48.280 --> 1:04:52.920 Sullivan character. Yeah, yes, in the in the season eight finale, 1:04:53.160 --> 1:04:55.880 when JD is doing the walk down the hallway and 1:04:55.960 --> 1:04:57.680 she pops up out of the out of the thing 1:04:57.720 --> 1:05:00.280 and she's like, there you are, and you get so 1:05:00.560 --> 1:05:03.919 fucking excite, Like there's like a real jolt of joy 1:05:04.000 --> 1:05:06.560 in your body when you see that. If you haven't 1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:09.280 watched all the other episodes, you don't understand what that. 1:05:09.400 --> 1:05:11.760 You think this is just a person who happens to 1:05:11.800 --> 1:05:13.200 be you can't just watch. 1:05:13.000 --> 1:05:15.680 So then that makes episode is the final episode of 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:16.840 Scrubs a good episode. 1:05:17.080 --> 1:05:21.360 It's a great, fantastic because. 1:05:21.080 --> 1:05:25.400 The Breaking Bad, the Breaking Bad finale is a fucking movie. 1:05:25.440 --> 1:05:27.960 All I needed to know was that this dude, Walter White, 1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:29.080 was this freak. 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:30.160 I'm gonna let the super. 1:05:31.920 --> 1:05:34.600 Why why why? 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:37.800 Because you you you will get so I mean, let's 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:39.560 just take Breaking back because I feel like it's a 1:05:39.600 --> 1:05:41.800 show that everyone listening to this problem. 1:05:41.920 --> 1:05:44.680 That last that last right, But that last episode is 1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:48.120 a movie. It's a fucking movie, a movie like like 1:05:48.240 --> 1:05:51.360 it's just like the twenty sixth hour with Edward Norton 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:54.240 where he finally where he's a board. I forget the 1:05:54.320 --> 1:05:55.240 name of the damn movie. 1:05:55.040 --> 1:05:57.160 But you forget how many hours. There's a lot of them. 1:05:57.440 --> 1:06:00.400 There's a lot of them. But he he fucking uh, 1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:02.960 he's a drug dealer who goes to jail. You don't 1:06:03.000 --> 1:06:05.920 need to know everything that goes on before the movie. 1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:09.800 With the movie starts, you're invested the minute he gets 1:06:09.800 --> 1:06:12.200 caught out there after you know what I mean, and 1:06:12.480 --> 1:06:14.360 is going to jail, and it's the end of the story. 1:06:14.400 --> 1:06:15.439 It's his run. 1:06:15.480 --> 1:06:18.320 But you can watch that movie and understand all of 1:06:18.320 --> 1:06:19.480 the parts by the time you get to the end 1:06:19.480 --> 1:06:21.600 of it. If you only watch the finale of Breaking Bad, 1:06:21.800 --> 1:06:24.400 like you kind of you don't understand why it's so 1:06:24.440 --> 1:06:27.080 important that he saves Jesse in that moment, You're like, 1:06:27.120 --> 1:06:28.760 I don't get it. Why did he save this one 1:06:28.840 --> 1:06:31.080 kid and kill everybody else. I don't understand why he 1:06:31.120 --> 1:06:32.800 had to walk through the meth lab the last time. 1:06:32.960 --> 1:06:34.880 I don't understand why they played this particular song. Like, 1:06:34.920 --> 1:06:38.040 you're missing so much of this thing that you gotta watch. 1:06:37.880 --> 1:06:40.080 The rest of the episode. You gotta watch it, all right, Wait, 1:06:40.560 --> 1:06:42.840 let's ask the guys if they have another question. Go ahead, guys, 1:06:42.880 --> 1:06:43.640 do you have another one? 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:48.280 So you guys have mentioned earlier in the podcast series 1:06:48.280 --> 1:06:50.560 that you guys just beat roommates, right, Yes. 1:06:50.480 --> 1:06:52.600 We were roommates for a year, I mean for half 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:54.880 for summer, for summer, summer for a summer. 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:56.840 So maybe I'm kind of stirring the pod a little 1:06:56.840 --> 1:06:59.200 bit here, but what was some of your biggest pet 1:06:59.200 --> 1:06:59.920 peeves living with you? 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:02.480 So I got to the loft first. We rented this 1:07:02.560 --> 1:07:05.880 loft for the summer. And the loft it was enormous. 1:07:06.200 --> 1:07:08.320 It was like your dream loft in terms of size, 1:07:08.360 --> 1:07:10.480 but it didn't wasn't really that set up in terms 1:07:10.560 --> 1:07:13.400 of like two nice bedrooms, two nice bathrooms. So I 1:07:13.560 --> 1:07:16.880 claimed the nice bedroom because you know, I got there first, right, 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:17.480 that's what you do. 1:07:18.200 --> 1:07:18.320 Right. 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:21.560 Then I gave Donald what was technically the second bedroom, 1:07:22.040 --> 1:07:25.160 but it had a washer and drying in it, and 1:07:25.200 --> 1:07:28.120 he goes, who do you think I am? Benson? And 1:07:29.720 --> 1:07:31.800 for you guys are young, you don't know, but Benson 1:07:32.080 --> 1:07:35.840 was a show where Benson. 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:39.240 Benson was a show. Robert Gione played Benson, and he 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:41.520 was he worked for the mayor. He was an assistant 1:07:41.560 --> 1:07:42.120 to the mayor. 1:07:42.360 --> 1:07:43.920 He was saying like pretty much like who do you think? 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:44.520 I worked for him? 1:07:44.520 --> 1:07:47.760 And Benson was the one that pretty much ran the 1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:51.760 country while because the mayor was this you know, bumbling 1:07:52.160 --> 1:07:54.200 uh well, he wasn't a bumbling mayor, but he was. 1:07:54.560 --> 1:07:57.040 Benson was the one that handled everything right. He handled 1:07:57.040 --> 1:08:02.640 the house, He handled everything uh. And for some reason, Uh, 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:06.280 to me, that ship was kind of fucked up that. 1:08:06.480 --> 1:08:08.360 You can never like Benson should be the mayor. 1:08:08.520 --> 1:08:10.680 Benson should have been the mayor, and the mayor should 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:12.800 not have been the mayor. But that's not why I 1:08:12.880 --> 1:08:14.920 was pissed up. I was pissed off because it was like, Yo, 1:08:15.000 --> 1:08:17.400 you're gonna put me in the fucking room with the 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:23.160 washer and drying of all the wrong look. It was 1:08:23.200 --> 1:08:25.400 either that or like a law. It was like a 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:28.400 There was a cot right outside of his room and 1:08:28.439 --> 1:08:30.920 I was not taking the cot. Take the fucking cot. 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:33.000 Yeah, And then I didn't really have a door. So 1:08:33.080 --> 1:08:35.679 we we we were very open with each other that summer. 1:08:35.920 --> 1:08:39.080 We were very very open with the We touched tips no, no, no, 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:41.640 we didn't. We did doc did we donc And we 1:08:41.760 --> 1:08:42.360 never docked. 1:08:42.479 --> 1:08:45.400 We never docked. Tok. That was the midst of the dream. 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:47.799 This is all gone, this is oh boy. 1:08:47.720 --> 1:08:50.320 Now we're not cutting this out. Listen. This is what 1:08:50.360 --> 1:08:52.360 always happens on the show. We say something like that 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:54.160 and then Donnag goes, we're cutting this out, and then 1:08:54.200 --> 1:08:57.479 we almost never cut it out. We used to play 1:08:57.520 --> 1:08:59.320 ping pong in in our box. 1:08:59.120 --> 1:09:01.519 In our underwear do. We had a lot of great times. 1:09:01.720 --> 1:09:05.040 I remember I think the writer Amy Tan. Is that 1:09:05.080 --> 1:09:05.800 a famous writer? 1:09:06.040 --> 1:09:06.160 Uh? 1:09:06.720 --> 1:09:10.439 Joelle? Okay, as I understand it. The writer Amy Tan 1:09:10.640 --> 1:09:13.559 lived beneath us, and she was not happy that two 1:09:13.800 --> 1:09:16.760 guys partying all summer were in the loft above her. 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:17.479 Yeah. 1:09:17.479 --> 1:09:19.519 And we would get a note like, we would get 1:09:19.600 --> 1:09:22.479 notes like Amy Tan is furious, you guys need a 1:09:22.520 --> 1:09:23.519 fucking quiet down. 1:09:24.000 --> 1:09:25.880 She was like, she would write notes like do you 1:09:25.920 --> 1:09:29.160 guys have fucking elephants upstairs in apartment? 1:09:29.520 --> 1:09:29.720 Yeah? 1:09:30.880 --> 1:09:33.559 Because the banging. I can only imagine. She would write 1:09:33.560 --> 1:09:34.880 some pretty unique notes though she. 1:09:34.800 --> 1:09:36.559 Was a written well, she was a good writer. They 1:09:36.560 --> 1:09:37.400 were beautifully written. 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:40.599 She wrote the joy Luck Club. Holy shit, we were 1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:42.400 fucking with the lady who wrote the joy Luck We. 1:09:42.560 --> 1:09:44.479 Were fun whether we were just having fun. And I 1:09:44.520 --> 1:09:47.240 remember her very well worded angry letters. 1:09:47.520 --> 1:09:49.920 Yeah. I wish you still had them. 1:09:50.040 --> 1:09:51.960 Yeah. She pulled out the thesaurus for some of those. 1:09:56.080 --> 1:09:58.120 We could probably sell them on eBay. Those are worth something. 1:09:58.479 --> 1:10:07.320 Amy Tan's angry letters. All right, we gotta keep going. 1:10:07.800 --> 1:10:10.679 Thank you guys for coming on, Donald, thank you. 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:12.400 Hey, thank you guys. 1:10:13.080 --> 1:10:13.880 I appreciate it. 1:10:14.160 --> 1:10:15.920 What is that on your shirt? Summer League? 1:10:16.520 --> 1:10:19.599 Yeah, Vegas Summer League. So probably know about Summer League, yeah, 1:10:20.200 --> 1:10:22.840 NBA yeah Basketballak, you probably don't know too much. 1:10:22.720 --> 1:10:24.320 About what Donald Donald? 1:10:25.200 --> 1:10:25.639 Are you? 1:10:25.680 --> 1:10:28.160 But no, we're big Bucks fans. 1:10:28.400 --> 1:10:30.800 Bucks fans And okay, right on, how long do you 1:10:30.800 --> 1:10:32.479 think you can hold at too there? 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:40.160 For he's resigning? You heard it? Yeah, you believe he's 1:10:40.160 --> 1:10:41.439 not coming to San Antonio show. 1:10:43.880 --> 1:10:46.599 I mean, look, here's the thing. Do they come out 1:10:46.600 --> 1:10:48.240 of the world. I mean, there is no East this 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:51.000 year or West for the for this bubble round that 1:10:51.000 --> 1:10:53.439 they're talking about at Disney, right, it's just a bunch 1:10:53.479 --> 1:10:54.639 of teams thrown into a pot. 1:10:54.720 --> 1:10:56.519 Is that I think? I think they are still doing 1:10:56.520 --> 1:10:58.760 the East West. It's something weird though. It's kind of 1:10:58.800 --> 1:10:59.840 weird how they set out. 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:02.920 It would be nice if they just threw teams into 1:11:02.920 --> 1:11:05.280 a pot so you could get you know, first rounds 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:10.200 with like Houston versus Milwaukee or Houston vers you know, Washington. 1:11:10.439 --> 1:11:11.280 That'd be really cool. 1:11:11.320 --> 1:11:13.120 But what's his name again? I wanted to try and 1:11:13.200 --> 1:11:28.680 use it, Jansa Joo. Yes, well, I gotta tell you, 1:11:28.800 --> 1:11:30.840 he's a really great player. And what I like about 1:11:30.880 --> 1:11:32.000 him is he's always in the paint. 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:39.519 That's actually true actually, and he reminds me. 1:11:39.520 --> 1:11:41.880 Of Rodman because he's always getting those rebounds. 1:11:42.400 --> 1:11:48.600 Wow, not bad, not bad, not bad, not basketball. 1:11:49.240 --> 1:11:52.600 Kind of a quick little share story. We uh, I 1:11:52.640 --> 1:11:55.400 think back to the episode where I don't think it 1:11:55.479 --> 1:11:57.720 was the standards. There's like a flashback to where you 1:11:57.720 --> 1:12:05.760 guys got to go seet Michael Jordan's yea, when we 1:12:05.760 --> 1:12:08.799 were in high school. I want tickets to buck Lakers 1:12:08.840 --> 1:12:11.960 game and shout out rest in peace Kobe Bryant. But 1:12:12.000 --> 1:12:14.960 we got to see Kobe Bryant playing. We rolled up 1:12:14.960 --> 1:12:17.200 and that's we're doing. Don't see Kobe Bryant. 1:12:18.960 --> 1:12:23.479 And I take ticket unlike unlike Jad and Turk. You 1:12:23.479 --> 1:12:25.640 guys remember the tickets. I take it right? 1:12:26.080 --> 1:12:26.320 Yeah? 1:12:32.439 --> 1:12:32.560 Is it? 1:12:32.680 --> 1:12:32.800 That? 1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:35.080 Is that like in Scrubs? Lord Donald? Is that how 1:12:35.120 --> 1:12:37.599 you began to lose your hair? You first started pulling 1:12:37.640 --> 1:12:38.320 it out, And. 1:12:38.200 --> 1:12:39.080 I don't know how. 1:12:38.960 --> 1:12:41.000 I began to I don't know how Turk started to 1:12:41.040 --> 1:12:42.160 lose his hair, but that. 1:12:42.200 --> 1:12:42.960 Was the first moment. 1:12:43.520 --> 1:12:44.719 That's one of the first moments. 1:12:46.000 --> 1:12:47.519 All right, guys, thank you so much for coming on. 1:12:47.560 --> 1:12:48.439 I really appreciate it. 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:49.800 Appreciate Hey, for. 1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:52.240 Everyone Wisconsin, come play tennis with the Zach for tennis 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:52.760 coaches too. 1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:56.920 Oh really, right on? I love it. I love it. 1:12:56.960 --> 1:13:01.120 I'll find you guys. All right, guys. You know, I 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:03.040 appreciate that they knew how to tap into the one 1:13:03.040 --> 1:13:06.439 sport that I could talk about, and there they were. 1:13:06.439 --> 1:13:07.880 They were very good guests. I like that. 1:13:09.120 --> 1:13:15.200 Uh, MASSI is back in yeah, which is great. He 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:17.479 went on to become a time traveling hero. That was 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:20.800 another show I watched, Shay Heroes. I watched that all 1:13:20.840 --> 1:13:21.439 the way through. 1:13:21.880 --> 1:13:22.120 Yeah. 1:13:22.200 --> 1:13:24.880 Yeah, by the way, a couple of goose I had 1:13:24.880 --> 1:13:27.559 goosebumps multiple times in this episode. The first was nine 1:13:27.680 --> 1:13:31.000 fifty six when they're playing pool in the bar and 1:13:31.840 --> 1:13:34.599 Ben's hand is still bleeding and the look Cox gives 1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:38.120 to JD. It really moved me because first it's my 1:13:38.200 --> 1:13:40.200 even because I was reading your essays and now was 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:44.200 all emotional, Shay, but I went My first reaction was 1:13:44.800 --> 1:13:47.800 Cox can't hide the fact that he respects JD is 1:13:47.840 --> 1:13:50.080 a doctor to know that he'll know what that could mean. 1:13:50.280 --> 1:13:52.360 Yeah, immediately, do you know what I mean? 1:13:52.720 --> 1:13:55.080 It was like, you know, Cox is always fronting like, oh, 1:13:55.400 --> 1:13:57.720 your girl's name and JD, you sucking but obviously under 1:13:57.800 --> 1:14:00.080 undercurrent trying to build him up. But that was a 1:14:00.080 --> 1:14:02.519 moment of shock where he looked to it as a peer, 1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:05.599 as a peer and when you know what that could. 1:14:05.439 --> 1:14:08.800 Mean, Yeah, that's like it. So you see you see 1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:10.720 him do it in the in the pilot, it was 1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:14.519 like the first time he expresses some sort of like 1:14:14.800 --> 1:14:16.720 not admiration, but like you know, I'm gonna grab a 1:14:16.720 --> 1:14:18.479 hold of you and take take care of you. And 1:14:18.520 --> 1:14:20.479 then this time was the first time when he he 1:14:20.520 --> 1:14:23.920 doesn't say anything. There's no words at all. He just 1:14:24.040 --> 1:14:27.200 looks and he knows, and JD knows, and the only 1:14:27.240 --> 1:14:30.160 person who doesn't know in that moment is Ben. He's like, oh, 1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:30.680 it's about it. 1:14:31.000 --> 1:14:34.080 I was really inspected by the respect that he's I mean, 1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:37.800 obviously in his mind wasn't I'm gonna now respect this person. 1:14:37.840 --> 1:14:39.840 It was just it didn't he didn't have a moment 1:14:39.920 --> 1:14:42.240 to put on his airs, if you will, He didn't 1:14:42.280 --> 1:14:44.360 have a moment to put on his front. He just 1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:47.360 had an instant reaction to a fellow doctor and went, oh, fuck, 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:48.240 you know what this could mean. 1:14:48.520 --> 1:14:51.240 It's totally It's totally different than when you see him 1:14:51.400 --> 1:14:54.680 at the very beginning of the next episode when he 1:14:54.760 --> 1:14:58.080 walks into the room and JD and and Jordan and 1:14:58.120 --> 1:15:00.320 Benn are in there, and JD's doing the thing about 1:15:00.320 --> 1:15:02.680 like we knew, you know, you don't need a we 1:15:02.720 --> 1:15:05.200 don't need a resident, we need like a hero. And 1:15:05.200 --> 1:15:07.559 then he comes walking in and now now he's prepared 1:15:07.600 --> 1:15:09.360 for the situation and doing the whole thing. But yeah, 1:15:09.400 --> 1:15:12.040 you're exactly right in that moment and. 1:15:12.000 --> 1:15:14.960 Then and the second time. First of all, I just 1:15:15.000 --> 1:15:16.200 want to say at ten or five, there was a 1:15:16.240 --> 1:15:19.120 really cool transition moment that Larry Trilling did from I 1:15:19.120 --> 1:15:20.960 love how they went from the bar right to the 1:15:20.960 --> 1:15:22.080 exam room. That was cool. 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:25.200 Awesome. Man, before we before we moved before, before we 1:15:25.200 --> 1:15:27.559 move forward with that. You know, he says, I've never 1:15:27.600 --> 1:15:30.160 asked you out for a beer before, but he had 1:15:30.200 --> 1:15:32.200 asked you out for a beer before, And that was 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:38.200 when he lost his ship and tore up the lab 1:15:38.320 --> 1:15:42.200 that day, and he was having his worst day and 1:15:42.240 --> 1:15:44.400 you got caught up in it. He does invite you 1:15:44.439 --> 1:15:46.040 out for a beer. You guys go to a bar 1:15:46.120 --> 1:15:50.920 and you drink beer. You drink together. Actually, so that 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:52.800 was very weird that he was like, you know, I've 1:15:52.800 --> 1:15:53.479 never asked you out. 1:15:53.600 --> 1:15:54.599 Maybe he've blocked it out. 1:15:55.720 --> 1:15:56.040 Whatever. 1:15:56.080 --> 1:15:58.599 I'm just you know, you're just trying to show off 1:15:58.600 --> 1:16:01.640 that you're like the Scrubs Wiki guy. By the mean, 1:16:01.720 --> 1:16:04.559 a lot of laughter on my Insta comments about Scrubs 1:16:04.600 --> 1:16:07.360 Wiki guys. They were like someone was like that guy 1:16:07.400 --> 1:16:13.320 pulled a total Dorian and people were just laughing about 1:16:13.360 --> 1:16:16.320 how No, friends, Trevor, we we got you. Now you're 1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:19.160 gonna be our Scrubs Wiki guy, right, Donald. 1:16:20.080 --> 1:16:21.960 I mean he doesn't necessarily want him. 1:16:22.080 --> 1:16:24.320 No, but I kind of like that about his character. No, 1:16:24.360 --> 1:16:26.400 but I kind of liked that about his character in 1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:30.080 the show. He's like a reluctant. He like a reluctant. 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:30.960 He's reluctant. 1:16:31.120 --> 1:16:33.200 So, yeah, that's what you do. Think of it as 1:16:33.240 --> 1:16:36.840 like the hero's journey. In the beginning, you don't really 1:16:36.880 --> 1:16:39.400 want to do it. Yeah, once you get on board, 1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:43.879 you're off to an adventure, that adventure of a lifetime. 1:16:43.960 --> 1:16:45.960 Yeah, Trevor, by the time we do one hundred and 1:16:45.960 --> 1:16:48.240 eighty two episodes, you'll be happy that you came along 1:16:48.320 --> 1:16:51.120 on the journey. And the other moment and the other 1:16:51.160 --> 1:16:54.559 moment we got goo goosebumps. As I said earlier, that's 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:59.120 that Shaye writes about in his essay was when Jad 1:16:59.720 --> 1:17:02.479 reads the chart and sees that Ben has leukemia, and 1:17:02.560 --> 1:17:05.800 Carla comes up and she says, are you okay? And 1:17:05.920 --> 1:17:09.559 I just say no. And it was just really, really 1:17:09.600 --> 1:17:11.679 powerful because it was one of those moments that she's 1:17:11.720 --> 1:17:14.160 talking about where there had just been a silly moment 1:17:14.280 --> 1:17:16.800 of of the fantasy of what happens in that in 1:17:16.840 --> 1:17:20.720 that blood test guy's office, and and and and and 1:17:20.760 --> 1:17:23.920 Doug being you know Doug, and then all of a sudden, bam, 1:17:23.960 --> 1:17:25.960 we just drop in with, Hey, this guy we just 1:17:26.040 --> 1:17:27.920 made you fall in love with he's got leukemia. 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:31.479 She's so good in like every single moment, like she 1:17:31.560 --> 1:17:35.880 has this like a her player efficiency rating has got 1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:38.519 to be fucking outrageous, Yeah, which is like you know 1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:38.840 what I'm. 1:17:38.760 --> 1:17:41.320 Saying, Yeah, she's if you were playing if you were 1:17:41.360 --> 1:17:47.599 playing NBA two K, she's like ninety six ninety seven, 1:17:47.800 --> 1:17:50.479 Like she was like just straight up like she's glitch 1:17:50.520 --> 1:17:54.959 mode man at that time. Yeah. 1:17:55.040 --> 1:17:57.680 I think that she is an incredible actress and in 1:17:57.720 --> 1:18:00.760 the show, she was the perfect tool to use for 1:18:00.840 --> 1:18:02.800 moments like this because she was the heart, you know, 1:18:02.880 --> 1:18:04.680 she was the heart of She was the conscience and 1:18:04.720 --> 1:18:06.160 the heart for everybody. 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:08.040 At least the first two seasons. I think as the 1:18:08.080 --> 1:18:11.400 show went on, she you know, she became as much 1:18:11.400 --> 1:18:14.800 of us a character as we you know, as all 1:18:14.840 --> 1:18:16.760 of us did. But in the first two seasons, she 1:18:16.880 --> 1:18:19.920 was definitely the grounding factor to all of the you 1:18:19.960 --> 1:18:21.479 know what I mean to everything m hm. 1:18:21.760 --> 1:18:24.080 So then we go into this fantasy that we don't 1:18:24.120 --> 1:18:27.320 know is a fantasy delivery end of the show, and 1:18:27.439 --> 1:18:30.439 all of this happens in Jady's Magination, which which again 1:18:30.520 --> 1:18:33.880 we talked about it earlier in this podcast, but you 1:18:33.920 --> 1:18:38.720 know that totally foreshadows the giant mislead we do in 1:18:38.800 --> 1:18:42.599 season three with with Johnny not knowing that that that 1:18:42.880 --> 1:18:47.120 Ben's gone. So it's just really interesting that that bill 1:18:47.920 --> 1:18:50.640 not only introduced Ben for for the long haul, but 1:18:50.720 --> 1:18:54.200 then mirrored that sort of wacky fantasy structure. 1:18:54.720 --> 1:18:57.360 Well, so when when when you reached out and asked 1:18:57.360 --> 1:19:00.679 which episode I wanted to be, like, if I could, 1:19:00.720 --> 1:19:03.000 if I wanted to be on a thing, that that 1:19:03.160 --> 1:19:05.559 was the whole reason that I ended up picking this 1:19:05.600 --> 1:19:08.160 one because I think this episode in season one, especially 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:11.519 it's like the one episode where we see the most 1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:14.200 amount of tricks that Scrubs is able to pull off 1:19:14.439 --> 1:19:17.040 that maybe a lot of shows aren't. So so if 1:19:17.080 --> 1:19:19.720 we have if we put a list together, you have 1:19:19.760 --> 1:19:23.040 that great scene where Elliott makes yourself cry to get 1:19:23.080 --> 1:19:26.800 the to redo the thing right. So this is like 1:19:26.840 --> 1:19:29.559 her being very silly in this situation. But to do 1:19:29.600 --> 1:19:34.439 that as an actor, I imagine, is incredibly tricky, just 1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:37.280 like pull that out of you. So you have her 1:19:37.320 --> 1:19:40.000 doing that. You have Carla with JD in the hallway 1:19:40.040 --> 1:19:42.320 and Carla's doing her quick missile strike right here where 1:19:42.360 --> 1:19:44.519 she just like get a pump, a scene full of emotion. 1:19:44.880 --> 1:19:47.400 You have the thing where they're playing with timelines, which 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:50.120 they use to even greater effect later on. You have 1:19:50.200 --> 1:19:53.799 the gag with we we find out that the janitor 1:19:53.840 --> 1:19:55.840 is in like the background of all of these pictures. 1:19:58.200 --> 1:20:01.920 There's so much we have. We have doctor Cox using 1:20:01.960 --> 1:20:04.600 his serious voice. He doesn't do it very often, but 1:20:04.640 --> 1:20:07.320 when he does it, you feel it. And he tells JD, like, 1:20:07.360 --> 1:20:09.400 your only job today is you get these test results back. 1:20:10.040 --> 1:20:11.760 Like you love to see him drop everything do that. 1:20:11.800 --> 1:20:14.120 You have Turt sticking up for JD. You have Brendan 1:20:14.160 --> 1:20:17.559 Fraser swooping in and being just like the perfect cameo 1:20:17.720 --> 1:20:19.680 character where you have to be able to tell a 1:20:19.720 --> 1:20:21.280 joke but you also have to be able to stick 1:20:21.320 --> 1:20:24.760 this landing. Yeah, there's just so much stuff going on. 1:20:24.840 --> 1:20:26.000 This one episode's perfect. 1:20:26.160 --> 1:20:28.080 By the way, Shay, you just made me think of 1:20:28.120 --> 1:20:32.519 something else, which was Sarah's a bit which he really 1:20:32.520 --> 1:20:37.439 did live on camera obviously, which which actors often have 1:20:37.520 --> 1:20:40.280 to do and can always do, but Sarah does literally 1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:42.679 live on camera. Here is get themselves in a headspace 1:20:42.720 --> 1:20:48.360 where they can produce tears, and that moment really encapsulates 1:20:48.400 --> 1:20:51.040 exactly what you're talking about in Scrubbs being able to 1:20:51.080 --> 1:20:53.880 dance between comedy and drama, because what Sarah's doing is 1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:56.559 very funny, but if you look at the words she's 1:20:56.600 --> 1:21:00.200 saying to get herself to cry, it's very seriously it's 1:21:00.240 --> 1:21:02.799 the painful stuff from her life and trying to impress 1:21:02.840 --> 1:21:05.519 her father and whatever whatever she was saying. But it 1:21:05.600 --> 1:21:09.639 was like happening simultaneously, is this thing you're laughing at, 1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:12.799 but what the woman is saying is is so sad, 1:21:13.080 --> 1:21:15.599 you know, and then it ends with her with tears 1:21:15.640 --> 1:21:17.840 streaming got her face if it was a really great acting. 1:21:17.600 --> 1:21:19.719 Woman for Sarah, she's amazing. 1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:24.000 What about Chop Chop Nancy Rapido. 1:21:24.320 --> 1:21:28.920 Raio, I remember that, dude, I remember that day. I remember. 1:21:29.280 --> 1:21:31.000 I think that was one of the first times where 1:21:31.040 --> 1:21:32.599 I was having a hard time with lines. 1:21:32.920 --> 1:21:36.080 I remember Chop Chop Nancy. 1:21:36.360 --> 1:21:38.080 No, I had the whole thing where it was like, 1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:39.880 you're gonna go back there and you're gonna do this 1:21:39.960 --> 1:21:41.479 and blah blah blah. I think that was one of 1:21:41.560 --> 1:21:43.639 the first times where I was like, I didn't study this. 1:21:43.760 --> 1:21:49.760 Oh shit. Leonard makes an appearance. 1:21:49.360 --> 1:21:51.840 Here without a hook arm, though without. 1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:54.000 A hook on his hand. So what is the story. 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:58.000 I read on scrubs Wiki that the guy wrote perhaps 1:21:58.080 --> 1:22:01.640 this episode is before his ice machine accident. 1:22:01.960 --> 1:22:02.680 I think it is. 1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:07.400 I didn't remember that that Leonard had lost his arm 1:22:07.439 --> 1:22:09.120 in an ice machine accident. Did you need that? 1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:10.680 I did not either, But I love that. 1:22:10.720 --> 1:22:12.880 I love that on scrumbs Wiki it's like this may 1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:16.599 have occurred before Ard ice. 1:22:15.600 --> 1:22:20.719 Machine, but I didn't have to because he had a hand. 1:22:20.800 --> 1:22:22.920 So for those of you who don't remember, that's Randall Winston, 1:22:22.920 --> 1:22:25.760 our line producer who not only played death but also 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:30.200 played Leonard. This is his first appearance in his wig and. 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:31.759 The afro isn't that big yet either. 1:22:31.800 --> 1:22:35.760 It's like he was he was keeping his throat tighter, right, 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:41.120 but he does he does not yet have a hook hand. 1:22:41.200 --> 1:22:43.400 This might be I believe, the only appearance of Leonard 1:22:43.439 --> 1:22:46.759 without his hook hands, so the ice machine. But then again, sorry, 1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:49.360 I'm going all over the place. But this was a fantasy. 1:22:49.760 --> 1:22:53.360 So maybe in JD's weird daydream, Leonard didn't have to 1:22:53.800 --> 1:22:54.320 hook yet. 1:22:54.800 --> 1:22:57.880 He didn't recognize Leonard had a hook yet he had. 1:22:59.120 --> 1:23:01.120 I hadn't noticed it. Leonard had a hook hit. 1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:04.800 So when I had a fantasy, Shane, that seems like 1:23:04.840 --> 1:23:07.479 something you would notice, though, I just want to that 1:23:08.920 --> 1:23:10.560 you've probably noticed that. 1:23:12.040 --> 1:23:15.240 So it took me a moment because I've forgotten well, 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:17.280 I wanted to just mention in eighteen thirty six again, 1:23:17.400 --> 1:23:20.160 Brennan took all those pictures and they're pretty great, uh pictures, 1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:23.439 I believe christ this still save a bunch of them. 1:23:24.280 --> 1:23:29.439 And then JD. Yeah, So then I was kind of 1:23:29.479 --> 1:23:32.080 surprised by that reveal. You know, again, I've watched these 1:23:32.120 --> 1:23:33.760 in twenty years. I thought it was cool to see this, 1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:38.000 you know, and Bill was smart directorially and writing wise. 1:23:38.040 --> 1:23:41.439 You needed something very specific to make the audience go, 1:23:41.600 --> 1:23:44.479 this is the exact same moment. You need a device 1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:46.720 because the audience is going to centerally track it. Keep 1:23:46.720 --> 1:23:48.599 in mind, when people watching these they had commercial breaks 1:23:48.640 --> 1:23:50.640 in and everything, so that you need the audience to 1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:52.559 make sure they tracked that whole run. And he came 1:23:52.640 --> 1:23:55.080 up with the device of the exact playing cards on 1:23:55.120 --> 1:23:55.880 their foreheads. 1:23:56.240 --> 1:23:58.639 Right. But here's the thing. He also made it seem 1:23:58.800 --> 1:24:02.479 like it was a curveball. That's you know, not only 1:24:02.520 --> 1:24:04.880 did it curve, but the ship was a change up too, 1:24:05.000 --> 1:24:07.880 you know what I mean, Like because you don't think 1:24:07.960 --> 1:24:12.599 that the whole thing is a daydream. You think, just 1:24:12.800 --> 1:24:16.320 when he gets the the paper the second time and 1:24:16.400 --> 1:24:23.519 he meets uh, Brendan Fraser outside, Yeah, you think that's 1:24:23.600 --> 1:24:26.040 all the fan that's just the fantasy. I'm gonna go 1:24:26.080 --> 1:24:29.560 out there and hey man, it's just leukemia. It's not leukemia. 1:24:29.680 --> 1:24:32.080 You're you're fine. I was wrong. I was wrong. And 1:24:32.120 --> 1:24:34.240 you know, the circle comes around and it's got this 1:24:34.360 --> 1:24:37.840 weird You think, Okay, so this part's the fantasy. And 1:24:37.880 --> 1:24:40.640 I expected you to be at the door of the 1:24:40.760 --> 1:24:43.960 exit telling him, No, dude, here's what I think you 1:24:43.960 --> 1:24:46.280 need to You need to come back inside. Actually, and 1:24:46.320 --> 1:24:48.800 it doesn't even do that. It jumps all the way 1:24:48.840 --> 1:24:51.840 back to the moment. And so it was like a 1:24:52.080 --> 1:24:54.760 It was like a not It wasn't just one pump fake. 1:24:54.920 --> 1:24:56.400 It was like he was under the rim giving you 1:24:56.439 --> 1:25:01.760 the dream shake, you know what I mean? Like and 1:25:01.760 --> 1:25:02.519 then you know what I mean. 1:25:02.760 --> 1:25:04.839 You know what's funny about that fantasy? 1:25:05.160 --> 1:25:05.360 You know? 1:25:05.400 --> 1:25:07.840 It's the writing is such that it's supposed to be. Oh, 1:25:08.040 --> 1:25:11.200 Ben says he doesn't like post pictures. You'll know it's 1:25:11.240 --> 1:25:13.240 a fantasy because here we are taking a post picture. 1:25:13.520 --> 1:25:15.080 But what what tipped it off even more from me 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:18.280 was that Kelso's happily getting in a picture with everyone. 1:25:18.840 --> 1:25:23.519 I was like, ELSA would never want to do with these. Yeah, 1:25:23.560 --> 1:25:25.320 I think that's it, guys. I think we did the 1:25:25.360 --> 1:25:26.960 whole We did the whole episode. 1:25:27.320 --> 1:25:28.400 Yeah, we did. 1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:30.479 Chande, did you have fun? Are you glad you did this? 1:25:31.120 --> 1:25:33.519 I'm really glad this was like a you know, part 1:25:33.560 --> 1:25:35.760 of me is like, these are two guys who I 1:25:35.760 --> 1:25:37.960 have been watching for so long. I'm kind of nervous 1:25:38.000 --> 1:25:39.519 to meet him. I don't really like to meet the 1:25:39.560 --> 1:25:42.160 people who I admire, because what if it turns out 1:25:42.160 --> 1:25:44.920 their dicks? So I had that in my head, But no, 1:25:45.040 --> 1:25:49.160 y'are cool. Hold, I hope you're better than I was. 1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:50.720 Will you come back on? 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:52.040 Yeah? Will you come back on? 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:54.840 Yeah? I'll come back on later on after y'all do 1:25:54.880 --> 1:25:56.480 all of the other stuff for sure. 1:25:56.439 --> 1:25:58.519 Because I have a feeling what's going to happen on 1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:00.720 all of our social media is every one's gonna say 1:26:00.760 --> 1:26:02.519 Shaye was the best. Guess you need to have shade 1:26:02.560 --> 1:26:04.839 back all the time. Carol mal Bear. 1:26:05.240 --> 1:26:08.040 Definitely hashtag Carl. 1:26:14.200 --> 1:26:18.200 Whatever happened to We don't know. He freaking we went 1:26:18.200 --> 1:26:20.600 into the party and he got he got jumped or 1:26:20.600 --> 1:26:21.120 something like that. 1:26:21.520 --> 1:26:25.439 Yeah, he definitely died on the show. In real life 1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:26.960 he's still working, but on the show. 1:26:26.840 --> 1:26:30.400 You know he has a twin brother, right, yeah, yeah, 1:26:30.400 --> 1:26:32.439 And I remember one night we were out and his 1:26:32.560 --> 1:26:35.400 twin brother. Everybody thought his twin brother was him, and 1:26:35.439 --> 1:26:37.400 they were coming up to him going pedro. 1:26:37.560 --> 1:26:40.559 Pedro, and as I recall, the twin brother was rolling with. 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:44.800 It, rolling with it, loving it, and he was like, 1:26:44.880 --> 1:26:46.760 don't tell anybody. I was like, I'm not gonna say 1:26:46.760 --> 1:26:49.280 ship dude, I thought that I thought you were the 1:26:49.280 --> 1:26:49.720 other one. 1:26:53.800 --> 1:26:56.519 Oh I I had people telling me that. I'm always 1:26:56.520 --> 1:27:00.000 say that's funny, like Mandy Moore's character does on the show, 1:27:00.280 --> 1:27:02.519 and then I need to stop saying that. Donald. I 1:27:02.560 --> 1:27:03.600 had someone write that to me. 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:06.559 You guys did date. Maybe that rubbed off on you. 1:27:06.680 --> 1:27:11.200 Well, I don't know if that's the case, but all right, guys, 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:13.880 I want to get out. I want to know you. 1:27:13.800 --> 1:27:14.360 Can leave it. 1:27:15.320 --> 1:27:21.479 Listen Shay's handle on Twitter at Shae Serrano s h 1:27:21.680 --> 1:27:25.679 e A s E r r A n O follow 1:27:25.760 --> 1:27:27.799 him on there. He is one of the most popular 1:27:27.800 --> 1:27:30.600 fellows on Twitter. He does a lot of amazing I 1:27:30.760 --> 1:27:33.200 just talk for a second, shape before we go about 1:27:33.560 --> 1:27:36.360 this cool thing you do with the f O h Army, 1:27:36.560 --> 1:27:39.240 tell us people what that is. Shaye will have like 1:27:39.600 --> 1:27:41.960 drives for people that need help. He'll be like, all right, 1:27:42.000 --> 1:27:44.840 whose bills are we paying this week? And then he'll 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:48.360 like just venmo them cash. So just talk about it 1:27:48.360 --> 1:27:49.160 for a second. 1:27:49.320 --> 1:27:52.720 Yeah, that's like the silly little sort of gorilla philanthropy 1:27:52.760 --> 1:27:54.920 thing we started a couple of years ago where it 1:27:54.960 --> 1:27:58.280 was like, after we had enough people following me on Twitter, 1:27:58.439 --> 1:28:00.640 we were all grouped up together. If we got get 1:28:00.640 --> 1:28:03.280 one hundred, two hundred three hundred thousand people following, we 1:28:03.320 --> 1:28:05.680 could raise a lot of money real fast if everybody 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:08.720 sends like a dollar or two dollars or whatever. And 1:28:08.760 --> 1:28:11.679 so you know, we started doing that and then yeah, 1:28:11.680 --> 1:28:14.120 when the coronavirus stuff hit, when the Black Lives Matter 1:28:14.160 --> 1:28:19.200 movement started up after the George Floyd's murder, we're like, 1:28:19.360 --> 1:28:21.679 you know, we're gonna try to help out in any 1:28:21.720 --> 1:28:24.040 situation we can. So like people will send stuff to 1:28:24.120 --> 1:28:25.519 me and we're like, all right, cool, we're gonna fund this. 1:28:25.520 --> 1:28:28.000 We're gonna send some money out. So yeah, I think 1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:30.679 like since March twelve, it's been you know, two hundred 1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:33.519 and fifty two hundred and forty thousand dollars up, just 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:36.439 like straight cash. We've given two places of people. 1:28:36.479 --> 1:28:38.759 And do people give you I think just from following 1:28:38.760 --> 1:28:40.800 you do. Some people who can afford it give you 1:28:40.840 --> 1:28:43.320 like large sums and hey say hey, Shay, distribute this. 1:28:43.920 --> 1:28:45.800 Every once in a while, somebody will hit me up 1:28:45.800 --> 1:28:47.680 like and my DMS and be like, hey, I don't 1:28:47.720 --> 1:28:49.400 want you to like say where this came from, but 1:28:49.520 --> 1:28:52.000 like here's five thousand dollars. Can you pay bills for 1:28:52.479 --> 1:28:54.599 people until this is gone? Like that happens every once 1:28:54.600 --> 1:28:56.639 in a while. Mostly though, it's like we're all gonna 1:28:56.680 --> 1:28:58.839 chip in five bucks, ten bucks and see what happens. 1:28:59.040 --> 1:29:01.000 That's really awesome, man, that that's really aw and he's 1:29:01.280 --> 1:29:03.479 so sweet about it. People will write him things like, oh, 1:29:03.600 --> 1:29:05.439 thank you so much, Shay, I'm having trouble with my 1:29:05.479 --> 1:29:07.760 bills and he's like, fuck that noise, and he'll send 1:29:07.800 --> 1:29:12.240 them money. That's awesome, awesome, all right, everybody, that's the 1:29:12.240 --> 1:29:14.479 episode I want to thank, We want to thank on 1:29:14.560 --> 1:29:17.760 behalf of my co host and I sh Shay, you 1:29:17.760 --> 1:29:20.320 were an awesome guest, right Donald, amazing guests? 1:29:21.120 --> 1:29:26.080 Well, dude, this was this was you know, always you 1:29:26.560 --> 1:29:30.120 never know how your guests are going to be. And 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:34.920 you're somebody who wasn't on the show. Uh, but you 1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:38.200 fit in so well man, and your insight on our show. 1:29:38.400 --> 1:29:41.000 I'm dead serious, man, your insight on our show is 1:29:41.560 --> 1:29:44.800 is very awesome. Man. Like I I appreciate you. 1:29:45.600 --> 1:29:49.160 And since and since the old Caramel Bear died, I 1:29:49.200 --> 1:29:52.880 think you can I just hope that I just hope 1:29:52.880 --> 1:29:56.519 that my persona on this podcast has made Laramie like 1:29:56.600 --> 1:29:59.000 me a little bit more. I know that it was 1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:01.880 j I know it was JD. She didn't love but 1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:03.320 maybe maybe she'll like Zach Brous. 1:30:03.439 --> 1:30:05.760 She loved Garden State, So you're good, all right. 1:30:07.960 --> 1:30:10.440 Question everybody loves that movie. 1:30:10.680 --> 1:30:13.120 Yeah, they you should have been in it. All right. Listen, 1:30:13.120 --> 1:30:20.200 everybody go to go to Donald Donald underscore ason. 1:30:20.640 --> 1:30:23.840 That's I'm trying to get all of Zach's followers. Okay, 1:30:23.920 --> 1:30:26.600 y'all need to come over to the dark side. 1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:29.840 All right, come over to Okay, that's one way to play. 1:30:29.960 --> 1:30:35.599 Join, join me, and together we will build this institution and. 1:30:35.520 --> 1:30:41.480 We will like weird memes. Listen, uh, combined strength. 1:30:42.080 --> 1:30:46.400 Okay, we can end this conflict and bring order to 1:30:46.520 --> 1:30:47.200 the galaxy. 1:30:47.479 --> 1:30:51.439 All right. That's his audition monologue. Listen. Check out Chase 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:55.080 book a Sacred Heart gang dot com. Please follow Donald 1:30:55.080 --> 1:30:57.160 on Instagram. I'm really getting sick, you know, just just 1:30:57.240 --> 1:30:57.600 hold on. 1:30:57.840 --> 1:31:00.839 Let's be clear, not just the people who are listening 1:31:01.520 --> 1:31:07.640 Zach Braff's followers. Okay, follow Donald FAIZI. 1:31:07.360 --> 1:31:11.719 Followers are tired of being accosted by you, and write 1:31:11.760 --> 1:31:16.280 Joelle your questions at Scrubsiheart at gmail dot com and 1:31:16.439 --> 1:31:21.880 please subscribe and rate the podcast, because I recently was 1:31:21.920 --> 1:31:24.799 told that that's a real thing that's good for our exposure. 1:31:24.840 --> 1:31:26.679 If you give us five stars, I'm like the uber 1:31:26.760 --> 1:31:29.559 driver who's like five stars. Five stars, So give us 1:31:29.560 --> 1:31:30.880 five stars, right Donald. 1:31:31.000 --> 1:31:32.559 Yeah, please give us five stars. 1:31:32.640 --> 1:31:35.559 All right, and time, friends, five stars are better. Tell 1:31:35.600 --> 1:31:37.600 your friends we are hoping to one day when the 1:31:37.600 --> 1:31:41.120 world opens up, tour this show and we'll come to 1:31:41.320 --> 1:31:43.559 will will you? Will you come when we come to Houston? Shay, 1:31:43.600 --> 1:31:44.360 are you still in Houston? 1:31:44.520 --> 1:31:46.360 I'm in San Antonio now, but if y'all make it 1:31:46.360 --> 1:31:47.320 to Texas, I'll show up. 1:31:47.320 --> 1:31:47.519 All right. 1:31:47.560 --> 1:31:49.679 Well, wait, hold on, now, I heard something about Tim 1:31:49.760 --> 1:31:51.960 Duncan and that being your favorite player of all times 1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:56.759 this year? Absolutely absolutely Why why Tim Duncan? Why before 1:31:56.800 --> 1:31:59.439 we go? Why this doesn't even have to be on 1:31:59.439 --> 1:32:01.920 the podcast. I just need to know this because Tim 1:32:01.960 --> 1:32:03.760 is one of my favorite players too. He's not my 1:32:03.880 --> 1:32:06.040 favorite player. Why Tim Duncan? 1:32:06.120 --> 1:32:09.560 Okay, let me tell you that there's a very personal 1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:13.600 connection that Tim Duncan has with San Antonio and that 1:32:13.760 --> 1:32:16.840 he showed up and all of a sudden a city 1:32:16.880 --> 1:32:19.400 that had an inferiority complex, you know, we're not as 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:23.000 hip as Austin, We're not as cool as as Houston 1:32:23.080 --> 1:32:25.400 or whatever. They beat us in the playoffs. Blah blah blah. 1:32:25.479 --> 1:32:27.519 He shows up and all of a sudden, we have 1:32:27.640 --> 1:32:31.080 the guy on our team that everybody's afraid of, and 1:32:31.120 --> 1:32:34.080 he's going to war and he's not backing down. You 1:32:34.160 --> 1:32:36.240 gotta fucking kill this guy in the playoffs if you 1:32:36.240 --> 1:32:39.280 want to beat him. He shows up, he delivers five 1:32:39.439 --> 1:32:42.680 championships for us. All of a sudden, we have that 1:32:43.240 --> 1:32:45.559 we I think he's the fifth or sixth greatest basketball 1:32:45.600 --> 1:32:48.120 player of all time. We have him on our team. 1:32:48.320 --> 1:32:51.519 He allows you, in your chest to feel like a winner, 1:32:51.520 --> 1:32:52.719 to feel like a champan. You know how it feels 1:32:52.720 --> 1:32:54.840 when the team that you love wins a thing and 1:32:54.880 --> 1:32:56.280 you feel like you're a part of it. 1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:58.840 It's like Jeter to New York Man, exactly know exactly 1:32:58.920 --> 1:32:59.320 what you mean? 1:32:59.400 --> 1:33:00.240 Yes? 1:33:00.720 --> 1:33:02.920 Or Cole Milkinson in the original cast of them is 1:33:03.760 --> 1:33:05.320 absolutely that's what. 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:07.559 That's what Tim Duncan did. So I love him forever 1:33:07.600 --> 1:33:07.800 for that. 1:33:08.160 --> 1:33:10.400 I hear you, man. I feel like he had a 1:33:10.400 --> 1:33:13.719 lot of really good uh if it was the Justice League, 1:33:13.760 --> 1:33:16.400 he had a lot of good supporting characters. He's Superman. 1:33:16.720 --> 1:33:19.759 He definitely had a Batman and it switched off between 1:33:19.800 --> 1:33:21.160 Genobilie and Tony Parker. 1:33:21.680 --> 1:33:24.400 Uh, those guys were those guys were great, but those 1:33:24.400 --> 1:33:26.679 were not players you could take and put on other teams. 1:33:26.920 --> 1:33:32.599 And they maybe Janobili Janobli maybe you know, maybe Tony 1:33:32.640 --> 1:33:34.559 in his in his younger years anyway, but. 1:33:34.479 --> 1:33:36.760 Not Tony, not as much as Genobili though, and when. 1:33:36.680 --> 1:33:38.680 He shut up Man and when he got there. He 1:33:38.720 --> 1:33:40.360 also had the Admiral David Robinson. 1:33:40.640 --> 1:33:42.959 Did he did have Big Dave? He did, Da've. 1:33:42.720 --> 1:33:44.000 Only got one? He got five? 1:33:44.240 --> 1:33:47.519 Yeah, yeah, No, Dave got two. They've got to them. 1:33:47.680 --> 1:33:49.400 None of them are as good as Mike Jaminski. All right, 1:33:49.439 --> 1:33:52.600 we gotta go. We love you, Thank you, Shay. I 1:33:52.640 --> 1:33:54.320 hope he can be real friends in real life. I 1:33:54.320 --> 1:33:56.559 think you and Donald might hit it off really well. 1:33:57.479 --> 1:33:59.640 I think so too. He's like he's like he's like 1:33:59.680 --> 1:34:01.800 he was a dick when I first met him. That's 1:34:01.840 --> 1:34:03.439 when I got out of the little That's what I 1:34:03.479 --> 1:34:05.240 got out of the thing. No, you don't you. 1:34:05.360 --> 1:34:07.639 Super cool, super No, you're on your phone a lot. 1:34:07.680 --> 1:34:09.000 The one thing about that said I got it was 1:34:09.000 --> 1:34:11.280 like down sitting between two fans, and he's on his phone, like, 1:34:11.280 --> 1:34:13.720 talk to your family, Dick. Maybe this White people don't 1:34:13.720 --> 1:34:15.320 follow you on Instagram, Fox. 1:34:15.000 --> 1:34:20.960 Exeven stories about show we made about a bunch of 1:34:21.120 --> 1:34:23.200 talks and nurses in Canada. 1:34:24.200 --> 1:34:27.880 I said, he's a story nexttion No 1:34:29.520 --> 1:34:34.360 So YadA round you here, yead around do here spec 1:34:34.520 --> 1:34:35.639 meant so mis