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Speaker 5: We've got the whole cast and crew ready for you

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Speaker 5: to rock today with Patrick Nocy, Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah

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Speaker 5: stand Back. I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris Beam in the back.

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Speaker 5: Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 2: Everyone.

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Speaker 5: The twenty twenty five season is officially over.

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Speaker 2: It's over. Our twenty four season.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thank goodness, everybody, It is done.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully twenty five is not over. Yeah over. Twenty five

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Speaker 2: is just getting started.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's rowing zero and fire Nico okay, continue.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so we're starting. We even on the air.

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Speaker 5: This is the first time that we've talked about it

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Speaker 5: since that happened.

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Speaker 2: No I alluded to it last time and say.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, last week we talked. We kind of briefly turned

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Speaker 7: to it, but you didn't want.

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Speaker 6: To talk about it.

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Speaker 2: I still don't want to talk to this on it.

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Speaker 2: He's escorting twelve year olds.

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Speaker 5: Especially after last night when you lose on a buzzer

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Speaker 5: beater to Tomato Rosen in the Raptor or the not

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Speaker 5: the Raptors. He used to play on the Raptors, but

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Speaker 5: the Kings, and then and then there's a guy that

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Speaker 5: played in La So anyways, also another thing I don't

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Speaker 5: want to talk about, but we certainly do have to

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Speaker 5: talk about Kyle.

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Speaker 6: No, we do.

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Speaker 2: We kind of do. Super Bowl fifteen. So that happened

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Speaker 2: something that the Iggles.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they won something opened they won it. Philadelphia wins. Congratulations,

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Speaker 5: forty to twenty two.

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Speaker 2: They got it done. Are you surprised?

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Speaker 5: I was surprised in the manner in which it happened.

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Speaker 5: I was not surprised that.

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Speaker 2: They were the result.

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Speaker 5: Okay, they entered with the best team and they had

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Speaker 5: the best the best team, best roster, best makeup, I

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Speaker 5: mean all of it. And they had the motivation too.

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Speaker 3: You could tell like it was all year, best roster,

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Speaker 3: not all year. You said the best team all year.

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Speaker 3: They have best roster year in terms of roster construction, I.

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Speaker 6: Was the best offensive line and defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 4: The reason I say this is because I heard you

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Speaker 4: say team got you, and I was going to say, well, no,

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Speaker 4: that would have been Detroit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Roster wise, there nobody argued that Philly had the best roster.

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Speaker 5: Even when we were going into the penultimate week of

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Speaker 5: the regular season it was Dallas and Philadelphia. We were

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Speaker 5: looking at it and saying, oh, look, they're the number

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Speaker 5: one offense and they're the number one rated defense.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good they got dudes.

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Speaker 3: Man, We've always given credit to how aggressive.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even though we're Cowboys, right yea, even though

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Speaker 2: we don't like even though we.

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Speaker 3: Don't like them, we still have to acknowledge the fact

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Speaker 3: that they do a dog on a good job at

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Speaker 3: acquiring talent. That's what's frustrating about it is frustrating, especially

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Speaker 3: when you look at the comparisons in terms of the

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Speaker 7: If you're looking at just the team, excellent team, excellent team,

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Speaker 7: fan base, I'm not talking about it, you know what

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Speaker 6: Like the city, the food, they're like.

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Speaker 5: You know, I like a cheese steak every now and again.

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Speaker 2: Just that's it. That's pretty much.

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Speaker 7: It just drill into the ground and make it not

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Speaker 7: a part of the America, you know.

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Speaker 5: Take it and move it somewhere somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mean objectively like like we're all saying,

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Speaker 4: objectively speaking, you have to give how we rose first rate,

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Speaker 4: for how he constructed that roster and how willing he

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Speaker 4: is to be aggressive in things like free agency. Now,

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Speaker 4: it's also true they they mostly don't draft will unless

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Speaker 4: they're drafting Georgia talent.

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Speaker 5: Like this is Geane and Quin weren't from Georgia the fair.

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Speaker 3: But listen, listen, this has to this whole narrative of

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Speaker 3: drafting Jesus and develop and this has to stop, Like

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Speaker 3: the conversation has to stop.

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Speaker 6: Just don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm personally tired of hearing about it.

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Speaker 3: You're saying the the inhas so emphasis, the emphasis on

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Speaker 3: your guys having to pan out, Like I'm tired of

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Speaker 3: that conversation. Yeah, and I know that's been the way

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Speaker 3: that's liking you guys like you know, you like And

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Speaker 3: that's true, right, you draft your guys you like you guys.

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Speaker 3: You develop your guys, but all guys don't develop, You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm.

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Speaker 2: Saying, Like, there are all guys don't develop. There can

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Speaker 3: So so like this whole thing where I'm so locked

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Speaker 7: Like, screw that, you're like with one hand tied behind it. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Like like if you're not addressing free age.

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia has been to the Super Bowl how many times

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Speaker 3: in the last five six years?

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Speaker 2: Three? Three? Screw going back.

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Speaker 3: The develop portion of it. Build your team, you hope,

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Speaker 3: throw money, you hope. No, listen, listen, you hope that

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Speaker 3: you're able to do it through the draft. I'm being serious, Like,

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Speaker 3: you hope because that's the most financially feasible way, right,

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Speaker 3: That's the that's the cleanest.

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Speaker 2: Way to do it.

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Speaker 3: However, if that is not working, get your butt in

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Speaker 3: position roster wise to compete.

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Speaker 6: So if the holes are there, don't ignore them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like That's why I have such a high regard for

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Speaker 3: Howie Roseman, because he he says, screw it, I'm supposed

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Speaker 3: and I think that the management here has done a

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Speaker 3: good job of building talent, right, But the one element

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Speaker 3: that they've been resistant to is going outside of their

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Speaker 3: guys in consistently to plug those gaps, right, because they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we got to worry about the cap, Oh we gotta

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Speaker 3: worry screw it. You know, you know what we said

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Speaker 3: this last couple years ago, right, the Rams said, what

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Speaker 2: What did they walk away with?

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Speaker 3: They walked away to Super Bowl and then they walked

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Speaker 3: away with what they walked away with. Some playoffs run

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Speaker 3: this year too, Yeah, right back to the playoffs. They

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Speaker 3: went back to the playoffs with a roster that is

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Speaker 3: nowhere near filled out. But guys have developed, right, and

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Speaker 3: they graduated a couple of pieces that they built through

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Speaker 3: the draft.

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Speaker 6: That's awesome, right, it's not only the draft.

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Speaker 2: It's not only the draft, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: So, like sometimes you gotta look at which if you

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Speaker 3: do what you have always done, you'll get what you've

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Speaker 3: always gotten. And I feel you feel, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: this is just a feeling thing, gal, When you hear

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Speaker 3: Stephen Jones speak because I think there's this there's this

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Speaker 3: weird dichotomy, right, I think that mister Jones, right, Jerry

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Speaker 3: Jones is the one who still speaks on behalf of

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Speaker 3: the brand, right your head. He's the figure, right, he is.

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Speaker 3: He is the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: So he's gonna speak and he's gonna make it sound pretty,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna talk around it and you know, enough stuff,

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Speaker 3: Steven gets on the Mike, Stevens like, look, this is

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Speaker 3: what it is, right, And it's just these two personalities

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Speaker 3: that you really see in prison whenever those guys present.

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Speaker 3: And I think when you hear not to say that,

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Speaker 3: you don't get the real for mister Jones.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like when Steven gets to Mike, Steven

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Speaker 3: Like a very black and white guy. Like he got

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Speaker 3: the mic, he was like, yeah, so yeah, Dak was

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Speaker 3: very much so a part of this, a part of

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Speaker 3: his decision white shining. Uh yeah, this is exactly what

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Speaker 3: we're doing. Uh yeah, We're gonna have to make some

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Speaker 3: changes in terms of how we go about you know,

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Speaker 3: saying acquiring guys like yeah, I feel as if you're

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Speaker 3: starting to I think the message is starting to get clearer.

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Speaker 6: Message message.

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Speaker 5: So let me let me add on to this, because

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Speaker 5: when we talk to him in mobile, it was really

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Speaker 5: the weirdest spot you could possibly have it. I thought

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Speaker 5: he was very real with us. And if you haven't

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Speaker 5: watched the go watch it Dallas Cobys dot com. It's

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Speaker 5: on the YouTube channel. It's on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Speaker 2: Go watch it. But he talked to us a little

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Speaker 5: That, about two minutes before that, in about four or

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Speaker 5: the past I would I would say he's just as

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Speaker 5: as his father, as Jerry, and that's been a part

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Speaker 5: of them being businessmen all the way through. I think

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Speaker 5: the message has been heard and the frustration has been reached.

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Speaker 5: They aren't happy, and that was the sense that I've got.

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Speaker 5: I've been around Stephen Jones since twenty nineteen and even

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Speaker 5: beyond because I did some stuff with Highland Park football

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Speaker 5: the more I've seen, Okay, he knows how to handle

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Speaker 5: the media. He knows how to handle his words and

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Speaker 5: knows how to craft them in a certain way to

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Speaker 5: send a message. I thought the message he sent to

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Speaker 5: us at South Alabama during the Senior Bowl was it's

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Speaker 5: it should change. He didn't say it's going to change,

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Speaker 5: but he's saying it should change because what we've been

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Speaker 5: doing and this is a direct quote from him, maybe

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Speaker 5: maybe paraphrased a little bit, but what we've been doing

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Speaker 5: has not been working, so something has to change. And

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Speaker 5: that's the first time I've heard them say that it's

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Speaker 5: got to get the first time period. So I believe

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Speaker 5: it when I see it, because I've been around this

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Speaker 5: words don't necessarily mean anything. That time I got a

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Speaker 5: sense that it did. I think it did. I think

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Speaker 5: it did mean anything. Well, you finally got the word

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Speaker 5: from the right person. I think that's a part of

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Speaker 5: it too. If the narrative change is changing, at least

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Speaker 5: it's starting there. And then now you're seeing this coaching staff,

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Speaker 5: how it's been put together.

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Speaker 2: Coaching staff is tremendous. You really have really.

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Speaker 7: Had, Like there's a lot of silver lining that. Of course,

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Speaker 7: it's bittersweet now because the Eagles just won the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Like it it's not.

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Speaker 4: I think it serves the maximum lesson for the get Boys.

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Speaker 2: But now that we've been very clear, yeah, I won't

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Speaker 6: Some of us have allegiance to the team.

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Speaker 3: That I want nothing, whether it be Cowboys, my brain,

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Speaker 4: I cannot stress this enough. Kylin Out we were all

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Speaker 4: This is Stephen Jones. He said, Yeah, I think you

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So and again we're waiting to see it, and hopefully

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Speaker 5: Might be the title of the episode. But actions speak

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Speaker 5: And we've seen a little bit of action. The slight

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Speaker 2: Which say what you may show me.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people haven't liked it, a lot of

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Speaker 7: It's it's what you can do at this point is

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Speaker 5: Place, you can still go sign Micah. That would be

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Speaker 3: He's putting a lot of the thing that I like,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine that we need to address we are going.

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Speaker 5: To go to coaching.

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Speaker 5: They drafted Jalen Carter, drafted Jordan Davis, drafted Nolan Smith.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's thee. They grabbed CJ. They grabbed CJ. Gardner Johnson,

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Speaker 5: So even you've got the draft and developed, he got

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Speaker 2: Finished the top ten in defense rankings. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they got a number of guys and they

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Speaker 4: The bottom line is you build both ways. Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: You can't sell me on you know, well the money's

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Speaker 6: So we just business.

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Speaker 4: You've done stage one, as we have this conversation, play

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Speaker 3: Now what you need to do is get the personnel

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Speaker 4: Congratulations that third that you're about to have if you

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Speaker 4: If you extend Michael Parson's contract this year, you can

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Speaker 4: If you wait until next season when his contract is expiring,

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Speaker 2: These are the games that.

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Speaker 3: Don't don't So what happens when people say what about

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Speaker 6: Play that game with Dak Prescott and you kick what happened?

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Speaker 3: Listen, man, Brandon Aubrey, that all the way down the

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Speaker 6: But in five years and ten years the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: Fact, what you're saying is the Cowboys are always protecting

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Speaker 4: And then by the time it happens, you can finesse

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Speaker 3: about to be the highest paid. So we're not playing

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Speaker 3: with scared money. We're spending money. I know that's going

447
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Speaker 3: to be the reply. But on the other end of that,

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Speaker 3: you also have to say, well, in terms of this

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Speaker 3: protecting the salary cap thing, you've never been in salary

450
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Speaker 3: cap hill, Like you know what I'm saying you've never been.

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Speaker 2: You never had your back.

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Speaker 3: All the way up against the wall where you couldn't

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Speaker 3: sign guys or you couldn't manipulate guys contract. It hasn't happened, right,

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Speaker 3: So to say that this is the reason why we

455
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Speaker 3: don't go out and acquire guys, you've never been, you

456
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Speaker 3: never face that lash, of course.

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Speaker 2: Right, So like, what are you protecting? Right? Because face

458
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Speaker 2: exactly right.

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Speaker 3: So Philadelphia, on the other hand, says, all right, Brandon

460
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Speaker 3: Aubrey kicking this thing all the way down the road,

461
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Speaker 3: and everybody says, what, Oh this's gonna hit them. Oh,

462
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be so bad. For that's always a reply

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Speaker 3: by people, Oh it's gonna be so bad. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: be the situation that they can't three Super Bowl appearances.

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Speaker 3: You know what, because it's it's a three.

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Speaker 4: It's it's not a static situation, a fluid the salary

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Speaker 4: cap situation is fluid. So you're preparing for this inevitability.

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Speaker 4: To suppose it inevitability. Let's say, let's say, based on

469
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Speaker 4: how the numbers and everything look in twenty twenty five

470
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Speaker 4: that if you handle things a certain way, then O,

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Speaker 4: the sky's gonna start falling. In twenty twenty nine. Let's

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Speaker 4: say that's that's the logical argument. Well, the problem with

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Speaker 4: that argument, the flaw in that argument and that logic

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Speaker 4: is that by the time twenty twenty eight twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: nine rolls around, they're gonna be different variables that have

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Speaker 4: changed to allow you to manipulate it, to push that

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Speaker 4: inevitability down the road another four five years. This is

478
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Speaker 4: what the Rams do, This is what the Eagles do,

479
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Speaker 4: this is what the forty nine ers do. And I

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Speaker 4: want the Cowboys to start doing it. Stop being afraid

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Speaker 4: of an inevitability that by the time it arrives no

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Speaker 4: longer beability.

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Speaker 6: And what do those teams often do?

484
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Speaker 2: Free agency?

485
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Speaker 6: Free agency and they kind of get deep into the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, but talk about the Rams. I know, we

487
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Speaker 3: gotta go to break the Rams. Okay, the Rams. We're

488
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Speaker 3: in the worst situation that you would ever imagine.

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Speaker 2: And still right, they were in.

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Speaker 5: The worst side of the Saints right now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, the Saints are terrible, right, but I'm talking

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Speaker 3: about the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Just said the heck with it.

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Speaker 3: They went out and got you everybody, right, the Rams

495
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Speaker 3: went out and acquired everybody.

496
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Speaker 2: They said the heck with the salary cap.

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Speaker 3: Thing. We know next year is going to be trash.

498
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Speaker 3: We're going all in, chips, all in. And what happened?

499
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Speaker 3: They walked away with the dog on Lombardi right the

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Speaker 3: next year?

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 3: Boo? They lost all their guys and then the best

503
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Speaker 3: player in football says, you know what, I'm gonna shut

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Speaker 3: it down. They lost the best player in football in

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Speaker 3: the thirties, early thirties, shut it down. They had what

506
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Speaker 3: one down year right back, and you know what, you

507
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Speaker 3: went to the second round.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to pull a cow. You know why.

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Speaker 4: And this is the difference between the Rams and a

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Speaker 2: The coaching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the level of coaching that you have and the

513
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Speaker 3: coature that you have can help you bounce back from that.

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Speaker 2: Yep very quickly.

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Speaker 3: Yes, or when you do hit that wall, you get

516
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Speaker 3: stuck in that pick because.

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Speaker 5: Because your coaching allows guys like Pooka Naku to become

518
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Speaker 2: Gives you the option to trade one of your other great.

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Speaker 5: Wide receivers in football this offseason and not have a problem.

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Speaker 4: And this was my Kyle, because it brings us back

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk talk about each of the hires.

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Speaker 5: We're going to run down what the Cowboys coaching staff

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Speaker 2: And got here. So I'm all turned around on the back.

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Speaker 2: I'm turn We don't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't have that ability to see it. What

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Speaker 5: we have seen is the Cowboys coaching stead. Oh, let's

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Speaker 5: go pretty good list. We talked a little bit about

595
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Speaker 5: the coordinators last year. Uh, you've got Clayton Adams on

596
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Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball, coming over from Arizona

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Speaker 5: where he had not Calin plays. Though not Calin plays.

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Speaker 5: But I think that's okay, that's all right.

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Speaker 2: It's around them. I think that's okay.

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Speaker 5: The veteran and former head coach of the Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 5: former linebackers coach on Jason Garrett's staff before he went

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Speaker 5: to go be the d C with the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 5: Matt ibra Flus.

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Speaker 2: I saw him at dinner last week, Flues. Did you

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Speaker 2: say hi? I did, and gave him one of those

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Speaker 2: Batman nuts.

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Speaker 5: Sir, I see you, gentlemen. It's a Dark Knight reference.

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Speaker 5: Thought you know't talk about the Martini glass. Nick Sorensen

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Speaker 5: is the special teams coordinator.

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Speaker 6: He comes over as Tony Brenca.

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Speaker 2: Actually okay, drink oh was it? Sorry?

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Speaker 5: The uh special teams coordinator after being the defensive coordinator

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Speaker 5: with the.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 5: Last time he was a special teams coordinator was in

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty one with the Jacksonville Jaquas Jagua. So other

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Speaker 5: than that, Sean Patrick, I want you to run down

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Speaker 5: the offensive staff. What do we have that is official?

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Speaker 2: So far? Official? So far?

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Speaker 4: So we know Clayton Adams is in the books, and

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Speaker 4: we know that Derek Foster Lunda Wells, Connor Riley. We'll

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Speaker 4: get to that because I could not love that pick.

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Speaker 2: Great. Those are definitely in the books.

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Speaker 4: What's being finalized is quarterbacks coach Steve Shimko, who has UH.

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Speaker 4: He was in the building last year, but he also

626
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Speaker 4: has a pre existing relationship with Schoenheimer from their time

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Speaker 4: together with the Seattle Seahawks junior Adams wide receivers coach.

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Speaker 4: He is going to take that role and be advising

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Speaker 4: Taekwan Underwood, who joined officially the coaching staff last week

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Speaker 4: as assistant wide receivers coach. Just flattop, yep, mister flattop kid,

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Speaker 4: if you will kidd in play, ain't going body so

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Speaker 4: those guys are who's who being finalized along with passing

633
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Speaker 4: game coordinator offensive passing game coordinator Ken Dorsey, former coordinator

634
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Speaker 4: and coach of the Cleveland Browns, previously a quarterbacks coach,

635
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Speaker 4: A long time quarterbacks coach is uh and he's expected

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Speaker 4: to join the organization any day now. I think they're

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Speaker 4: working out the finality of his contract. So once those

638
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Speaker 4: deals come to fruition and paper, a lot of firepower,

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Speaker 4: a lot of wisdom, it's a lot of you know

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Speaker 4: what's beautiful about it though, And we'll talk about the

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Speaker 4: defensive side, but when you look at the totality of

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Speaker 4: Schottenheimer's staff, it's a it's a perfect mix of experience,

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Speaker 4: infel experience, and young mindedness. So you got guys who

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Speaker 4: are coming over like like the Organ guy.

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Speaker 7: Well, okay, speaking Igon guy. He's also talking about j

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Speaker 7: Washington guy.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to say the Organ guy because what their

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Speaker 4: offense looked like last year.

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Speaker 6: Well, Junior Adams.

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Speaker 2: If it's a U guy, you know it's good. Okay.

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Speaker 5: I did a little bit of a I did a

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Speaker 5: little research on mister Adams. He's he's a California cat,

653
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Speaker 5: played at Oregon State, played at Montana State was a

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Speaker 5: wide receiver, and he's been in the college career all

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Speaker 5: the way throughout. You want to know the best wide

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Speaker 5: receiver he's coached at a high level. Would you like

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Speaker 5: to take play a little play a little game here?

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Speaker 2: Ye's go.

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Speaker 5: You said the best, the best wide receiver that's had

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Speaker 5: NFL success by this point.

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Speaker 6: Was he a Washington or Oregon.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you because it would give

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Speaker 5: it a way, So I'll give you the names of

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Speaker 5: the schools that he's been at. You want to go

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Speaker 5: by that. Yeah, so Oregon from twenty two to twenty

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Speaker 5: four Yeah, I see what you Washington twenty nineteen to

667
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Speaker 5: twenty one, What you did here, Western Kentucky twenty seventeen

668
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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, Boise State twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen before that,

669
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Speaker 5: Eastern Washington twenty nine to twenty thirteen, and then yeah,

670
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Speaker 5: Eastern Washington.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, do you know who he coached.

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Speaker 5: At Eastern Washington?

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Speaker 2: Let me see here it is.

674
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Speaker 5: He he goes by the name of I wish I

675
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Speaker 5: had a cup right here.

676
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Speaker 2: Here's a cup right here? Oh, thank you everything. Yeah,

677
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Speaker 2: that's a Cooper cup, a Cooper cup. But he did

678
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Speaker 2: he coached.

679
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Speaker 5: Cooper Cup during his time at Eastern Washington. Interesting, just

680
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Speaker 5: to keep in mind, he did so for two seasons

681
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Speaker 5: twenty two or twelve and thirteen before.

682
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Speaker 2: Of course, Cooper Cup was a third round pick.

683
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Speaker 6: So you're saying news that we can't talk about trades here.

684
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Speaker 2: But I didn say.

685
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Speaker 3: Anything about trade. I said a chance, but they didn't coach.

686
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Speaker 3: You don't know I'm talking about I.

687
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Speaker 2: Didn't that cut Cooper good.

688
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Speaker 4: Anyway, there's a I love the young minded this. I mean,

689
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Speaker 4: these are guys bringing fresh ideas from the collegiate level. Well,

690
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Speaker 4: and we talked about this last even tho the one

691
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Speaker 4: bringing fresh ideas from a collegiate level.

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Speaker 5: Before we get to Connor Riley. Isaiah brought this up

693
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Speaker 5: last week. When it's when you see a fan base

694
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Speaker 5: upset that you lose a certain coach, which Clayton Adams

695
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Speaker 5: was Arizona was assist upset an assistanteat an assistant, not

696
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Speaker 5: a coordinator, assistant going and getting a guy like Junior Adams,

697
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Speaker 5: going and getting Junior Adams. Oregon is beside themselves. They

698
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Speaker 5: are not happy Oregon duckster and upset.

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Speaker 7: Connor Riley too, And who did Connor Riley coach Cooper

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Speaker 7: b B.

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Speaker 2: And there's this other there's another guy.

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Speaker 6: There's another guy from Kansas.

703
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Speaker 4: State, not not Therice dudes, Connor Riley coming over from

704
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Speaker 4: Kansas State. First of all, to Cole's point, when you

705
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Speaker 4: see a fan base that is losing a coach get

706
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Speaker 4: up in arms about losing the coach, you know you

707
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Speaker 4: got something good. And Kansas State they they were very

708
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Speaker 4: disappointed in having losing, losing Connor Riley because they know what.

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Speaker 6: They're losingas state Kansas.

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Speaker 2: How many university did we make angry so far?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Kansas State, Oregon, Oregon, in Arizona and that's I mean Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: We made them angry though, right, you did three the

714
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Speaker 3: organizations off just now colleges are organizing the defensive standpoint.

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Speaker 2: You pissed off the Jets, off the Jets, So.

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Speaker 3: We made the Jets angry, We made the occrdo's anger,

717
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Speaker 3: make Kansas stay angry, and we made I love the organ.

718
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Speaker 2: I'm about it. It's just how we feel. Eagles, you understand,

719
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Speaker 2: I get it. You hate Green teams, I get it,

720
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Speaker 2: But things from them, I'm with that. Even if we

721
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Speaker 2: if we can't win it, go ahead and win it

722
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Speaker 2: so we can take it from as far as taking

723
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Speaker 2: things from guys.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know we're talking offense, but even on

725
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Speaker 4: the others, on on the third side of the ball,

726
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Speaker 4: which is special teams, you get Nick Sorenson, so you

727
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Speaker 4: get some of that Kyle Shanahan Tree football. I Q

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Speaker 4: intail at least it's can you imagine the bills here?

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Speaker 5: He gets to know he's a special teams coordinator, but

730
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Speaker 5: he can have some impact.

731
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Speaker 3: Intel a playbooks a very I'm interested to know how

732
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Speaker 3: these offensive as they instill and create this new offense, right,

733
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Speaker 3: because now you're in the shoddy offense, right, it's not

734
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Speaker 3: the it's not the the McCarthy offense is the shot coach.

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Speaker 3: So there's gonna be elements that are going to because system,

736
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Speaker 3: but there's gonna be a lot of new Can we

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Speaker 3: call it the shotgun? Oh my god, goodness, I see

738
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Speaker 3: what you did there, dear God. Oh sorry, play side,

739
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Speaker 3: don't hop on the State the State website right now

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Speaker 3: and go ahead and secure that.

741
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Speaker 2: Probably about hundred dollars.

742
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Speaker 3: I would love to see the meeting of minds as

743
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Speaker 3: they create this offense because there's so many expertise and

744
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: there's so many different schemes that all have to collectively

745
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Speaker 3: come together and agree. Now, there's obviously one voice that

746
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: has a lot more weight than others, but he is

747
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Speaker 3: bringing in these guys to absorb and and and implement

748
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Speaker 3: their their wisdom and their expertise. So I would love

749
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Speaker 3: to see how all these different schemes, philosophies, approaches come

750
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Speaker 3: together to create this new playbook.

751
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Speaker 2: Like, I'm excited about that.

752
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Speaker 7: But here, here's one thing, and this is intriguing me.

753
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Speaker 7: I don't have the answer. I'm just throwing it out there.

754
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 7: But what is it about Shoddy's offense? What is he

755
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 7: pitching to these coaches from other organizations, other college teams

756
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Speaker 7: that they're buying in and saying looking at what the

757
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Speaker 7: Cowboys did last off last season with their offense specifically,

758
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Speaker 7: and saying, yeah, I.

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Speaker 6: Want to work for them next year.

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Speaker 2: You know what?

761
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Speaker 6: Ooh, I just thought of some come on with it,

762
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Speaker 6: Come on with it.

763
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Speaker 3: We just finished talk about the Joneses, and we just

764
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: talked started talking about the Joneses and their approach to

765
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Speaker 3: free agency, right and how we would like to see

766
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: a change. Maybe this is the first step. It might

767
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Speaker 3: be because we don't know what the assistant coaches make.

768
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Speaker 3: Step one, We don't know what these assistant coaches make.

769
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Speaker 3: And these assistant coaches are not getting their first opportunity.

770
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Speaker 3: For the ones that are coming from college, they're not

771
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Speaker 3: getting their first opportunity at NFL coaching jobs. I would imagine,

772
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Speaker 3: I imagine they've had before. Maybe the Jones have opened

773
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Speaker 3: up the checkbook. M maybe this is their first shot

774
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Speaker 3: at free agency.

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Speaker 2: I'm dead serious.

776
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Speaker 3: Right before they can get players, they're getting coaches get

777
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Speaker 3: coaches by right, and they have to not only buy

778
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Speaker 3: in to what shot he's pitching, but buy in to

779
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Speaker 3: what the coaches want financially. Because we don't know what

780
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Speaker 3: these assistant coaches are making, they don't have to disclose.

781
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Speaker 2: That one thing that's clear already, you know what I mean.

782
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Speaker 2: They don't have to disclose that.

783
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Speaker 3: So the Joneses might be opening it up to play,

784
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: might be opened up their checkbook and say, hey, Shotty,

785
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Speaker 3: go get who you want to get. We'll make sure

786
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Speaker 3: that we funded on the back end. This might be

787
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Speaker 3: the Jones first indication of what they're willing to do

788
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Speaker 3: free agent wise, because this is the free agency of coaches.

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Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you right now. And this is

790
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Speaker 4: not a situation where, like you know, a coach is

791
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Speaker 4: coming in and they're trying to retain a certain portion

792
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Speaker 4: of the playbook. It sounds like this playbook is being

793
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Speaker 4: it's being created ground and created completely. And you talk

794
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Speaker 4: about when the coature might be as if it is

795
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: definitively going to be built from the trenches out. Yes,

796
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 4: this team is going when you talk about Derek Foster

797
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 4: and Connor Riley and Clayton Adams and even the scheme

798
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Speaker 4: that Shaddy said that he's envisioning, this team is looking

799
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Speaker 4: to bully you and then play off of that to

800
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 4: affect the game in the air. So we it feels

801
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: like that's where the culture is going there, and you

802
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: just you really have to love it because, like what

803
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 4: Josh is saying is poignant. These are guys who are

804
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Speaker 4: high level in their respective organizations and programs.

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Speaker 2: You leave an Oregon program that was number one in

806
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Speaker 2: the nation and you leaven feel Knight.

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Speaker 3: You leave Kansas State program where you're for all intents

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Speaker 3: and purposes, you're one of the you're heraldin that's one

809
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Speaker 3: of the best offensive minds in the country.

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Speaker 2: You're comfortable, you're.

811
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Speaker 3: Leaving these comfortable, high level positions, first time NFL head

812
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Speaker 3: coach for the most visible and critically and criticized say

813
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Speaker 3: scrutinize team arguably and all of us. Yeah, they're buying

814
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Speaker 3: in so whatever, Soadenheimer is selling that must smell wonderful.

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Speaker 2: What are the two things that have to be true.

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Speaker 3: I have to believe what you're pitching me right as

817
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Speaker 3: the head coach. And then what's the next question I'm

818
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: gonna ask.

819
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Speaker 2: What's the pay? What's the pay? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm leaving Phil Knight, who has been the only

821
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Speaker 3: coach in organ whatever, the collagion organization, what are you

822
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Speaker 3: wanna call them?

823
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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: On institution that said it's a blank check to get

825
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Speaker 3: these players here for nil. So if it's a blank

826
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Speaker 3: check to get the players, it's definitely a blank check

827
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Speaker 3: for these coaches.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Right, So I'm leaving that. What is a Cowboys paying?

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Speaker 4: But I'll add one more thing. We talked about free agency.

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Speaker 4: This Cowboys as a current personnel roster, they have twenty

832
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Speaker 4: two looming unrestricted free agents, and you also don't know

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834
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Speaker 4: what that looks like. So if you're a coach being

835
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Speaker 4: wooed or being recruited. Not only do you have to

836
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Speaker 4: who we're you gonna have?

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Speaker 2: Who? Oh my ode?

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of voids that you need to feel.

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Speaker 2: If I'm Connor Wright, you're still here.

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Speaker 4: If I'm Clayton Adams, and they still said, yeah, I'm in.

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Speaker 5: What do you have to leave this offseason with on

845
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Speaker 5: now that we're live on YouTube, we have the live

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Speaker 5: chat option. Oh year, and I've just been sitting here

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Speaker 5: reading everybody's comments.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome. I love having the live chat.

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Speaker 5: Whether it's a good thing for us or a bad

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Speaker 5: thing for us, it's a good thing for.

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Speaker 2: Me because I have a lot of fun interacting with fans.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you read chat bell. Yeah, let's see what's

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00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: the I don't know if we can get this on.

921
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Speaker 2: Somebody didn't like.

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Speaker 5: My shotgun that we said it was stupid.

923
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Speaker 4: I challenge you to drop a bar hotter than that,

924
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Speaker 4: because that that.

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Speaker 2: Was sizzling enough. But that's the thing.

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Speaker 5: If you're watching the show and you haven't checked it

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Speaker 5: out on YouTube, the video version yet, and whether you're

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Speaker 5: watching or listening to the audio only version, we love you, guys,

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Speaker 5: We really do so. Now that we get to interact

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Speaker 5: in real time with some of the live viewers, I

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Speaker 5: love it.

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Speaker 7: So Rico and oak Cliffe may go to the Texas

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Speaker 7: Theater and listen to some go.

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Speaker 2: Music. Dude, do we have it? Oh? He might be, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he may he may be. Good show.

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Speaker 3: All right, one need offense and defense.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you one on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Half leave it.

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Speaker 5: Have to have it one thing overall. You can't kind

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Speaker 5: of halfway do this. You gotta say one.

941
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Speaker 2: What you guys. Have to have it, have to have it. Jeez,

942
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Speaker 2: you have to have a number two receiver.

943
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Speaker 6: Okay, cold Stone creamer, you gotta have.

944
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Speaker 2: I really want to one. I really want to one. Bee.

945
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Speaker 2: I don't want to even want a number two. I

946
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Speaker 2: want to one.

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Speaker 5: Bee okay, and defense what you do?

948
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Speaker 2: Yeah, on defense something that you have to have.

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Speaker 3: You have to have interior D linemen and you can't

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Speaker 3: I mean if you I don't want to speak on it, right,

951
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Speaker 3: but if you if you can't afford to lose, can't

952
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Speaker 3: afford to lose D lineman. Yeah, I can't afford to

953
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Speaker 3: lose O. So but even if you have OS, you

954
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Speaker 3: need to add you need a dog.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 5: So the need there would be retain Osa.

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Speaker 2: Oh we can do that. Yeah you could, Yeah, you could.

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Speaker 2: That would be and you yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what they plan our running system wise,

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Speaker 3: so I will say you need to retain j Lou.

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Speaker 2: Okay, see that's where my need was.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, or need to restructure Micah, that would be

963
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Speaker 5: the other one.

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking?

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Speaker 4: Offensively? You definitely need a one B receiver, But who's

966
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Speaker 4: your running back?

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Speaker 2: I think it's you. That's why it's only one right

968
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Speaker 2: you need.

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Speaker 6: But this is specifically free agents von.

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Speaker 2: No, it's just so you remember when you need a

971
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Speaker 2: running back.

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Speaker 4: So even if you can figure out the duce Von equation,

973
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Speaker 4: now that Connor Riley is in the building, you still

974
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Speaker 4: need another running back because He's not going to be

975
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Speaker 4: your workhorse. He's not going to That means that your

976
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Speaker 4: your goal is to make him more of that shifty guy.

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Speaker 2: You don't want him doing all the dirty. Oh I

978
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Speaker 2: was joking about. No, no, but.

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Speaker 4: Seriously, dude, finally and this will please I.

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Speaker 2: Fine, there is.

981
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Speaker 4: Some justifiable optimism that the Cowboys can figure out the

982
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Speaker 4: duce Vaughan variable. Mike McCarthy couldn't figure it out. But

983
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Speaker 4: Connor Riley is in the building, and here are some numbers.

984
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Speaker 4: And I know people say on the okay, here here

985
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Speaker 4: are some numbers. Though, when Connor Riley had duce Von

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Speaker 4: at Kansas State, duce Von produced four thy eight hundred

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Speaker 4: and eighty four yards from scrimmage and forty three touchdowns

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Speaker 4: at bridge one hundred and nine point seven rushing yards

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Speaker 4: per game in his final two seasons, and he was

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Speaker 4: also effective as a running back out of a wide

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Speaker 4: receiver out of the backfield nine point three yards per

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Speaker 4: reception in his final two season with Kansas State. If

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Speaker 4: there's anyone that can unlock Ducevon as Connor Riley, if

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Speaker 4: duce Von can't be unlocked with Connor Riley at the

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Speaker 4: NFL level, now, then we can wash our hands with Duzvon.

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Speaker 4: That being said, even if Duce Vaughan has a breakout season,

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Speaker 4: you still need that compliment. I am still of the belief.

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Speaker 4: And this is without having talked in to Rico, spoken

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Speaker 4: to Rico, but this is just logically speaking, this is

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Speaker 4: the best leverage that Rico Daldo has had in his career.

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Speaker 4: He's going to test the market. He's going to Tony

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Speaker 4: Pollard the market. Does that mean he's going to leave.

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Speaker 4: There's a strong chance that he does leave. We'll see

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Speaker 4: if he's willing to stay. But if he stays, don't

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Speaker 4: expect it to be on a team discal So I'll

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Speaker 4: say that, but rather it's retaining Rico or you're going

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Speaker 4: you get a guy like Ashton Genty. Now that the

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Speaker 4: pipeline is there and re establish you still need to

1009
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Speaker 4: solve for running back. Solve for running back. I know

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Speaker 4: people are saying offense, you have personnel already on the

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Speaker 4: offense lines.

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Speaker 2: The need that's who's running the ball.

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Speaker 3: If you understand what I'm saying, who's running the ball?

1014
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Speaker 3: Anybody can run lines amazing until slash Wait than never.

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Speaker 2: If CD does.

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Speaker 6: I genuinely think that, but do you understand what I'm saying.

1017
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Speaker 3: You're saying, if CD gets hurt, who's catching. I'm saying,

1018
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Speaker 3: if CD is healthy, he's already set. It doesn't health

1019
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Speaker 3: notwithstanding who's.

1020
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Speaker 2: Running the ball.

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Speaker 3: I said that about Rico this year we found out

1022
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Speaker 3: as long as the old line is blocking, you're gonna

1023
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Speaker 3: get a thousand yards. Rico had already shown flashes before

1024
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Speaker 3: the depth chart though the un because he was behind first,

1025
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Speaker 3: he was behind Zeke and Tony, then he was behind

1026
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: Tony and then he had injuries.

1027
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Speaker 4: Okay, so fine. What I'm saying is assuming Rico test

1028
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Speaker 4: the market and that creates a good likelihood that he leaves.

1029
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Speaker 2: Who's running the ball.

1030
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Speaker 6: There's there's question marks.

1031
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: CD and Millie Davids was on the practice squad all

1032
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Speaker 2: year right for a reason, and this is not. This

1033
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Speaker 2: is not.

1034
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Speaker 3: This is not to Malie Malik showed flashed. Yes, who's

1035
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Speaker 3: running over over a one?

1036
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: B Isaiah, So you're telling me or a right guard

1037
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 4: you I want to be clear. So you're telling me

1038
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: that you're confident.

1039
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: Man, running backs are good. There's a lot of good running.

1040
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: Let me say they they are going to listen on

1041
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: a real court. How do we gotta go. What justifies

1042
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: how do you Outside of fumbling? What makes a running

1043
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 3: back bad? Makes running back bad? Lack of behind behind

1044
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: a really good offensive of visions, lack of possessions, lack

1045
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 3: of anticipation, yeah, those things, lack of burst, lack of behind.

1046
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 3: So behind a really good offensive line, you're saying most

1047
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: running backs can't.

1048
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: Fall for for fall forward, fall for forth.

1049
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 3: Behind a really good offensive line and good offensive scheme.

1050
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Speaker 3: You're saying, most running backs can't fall for four yards.

1051
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: So here's my question to you. False, Here's here's my question.

1052
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 2: They can't. They can. So that's what I'm saying.

1053
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Speaker 3: Most running backs that come into your camp are capable.

1054
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Speaker 3: Here's offensive line. You can't say that. Receivers, you can't

1055
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: say that, I love you.

1056
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 7: Behind the Philly Old Line, I guarantee Royce Freeman would

1057
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 7: have had a thousand yards.

1058
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Speaker 6: I mean, oh, stop that. Come on, man, come on, man,

1059
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 6: stop that.

1060
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Speaker 7: Behind the best old line in football, you can put

1061
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Speaker 7: first of all, just about it running backs.

1062
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Speaker 4: It's not even about overvaluing guys. This is about based

1063
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Speaker 4: upon the science that we saw from the film and

1064
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 4: things like that. Yes, you have questions on the offensive line,

1065
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 4: but you also have personnel you can be optimistic about.

1066
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Speaker 4: Brock Kaffman showed you you can be optimistic about him.

1067
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Speaker 2: TJ. Bass showed you that you can be optimistic about him.

1068
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Speaker 2: From a running back perspective.

1069
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Speaker 3: You don't have anybody on this current roster who will

1070
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Speaker 3: be under contract guaranteed at the time of this conversation

1071
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: that you can say that is the guy who's going

1072
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 3: to fall full. You're more confident, You're more confident in

1073
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 3: the running back debt. I'm most confident in the personnel

1074
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: than I am with.

1075
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Speaker 2: Let's let's not even talk about offers line.

1076
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: But are you more confident in the depth at running

1077
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: back or more confident in the depth at receiver? As

1078
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: we have this conversation, absolutely have more talented bodies at

1079
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 3: receiver than you do.

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00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 5: I would agree there that running back because you don't

1081
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 5: have bodies.

1082
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 4: And this is not me saying that Brooks and Tobert

1083
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: are going to be Pro bowlers. This is not me

1084
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: saying that, although we do hold on, although we do

1085
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: agree that Cavante Turpin can be a force if you

1086
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: continue to feed them the ball.

1087
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: But when you start.

1088
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: Naming names, at least you have names to name in

1089
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 3: the receiving group behind Ceedee Lamp. Who are you naming

1090
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 3: that's right now under contract at running back for the Cowboys.

1091
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: You're talking about Deuce vamb Elitite, Davis Hunter lipkey, Yeah,

1092
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm okay, you're okay then, but I really am behind

1093
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: us with the offensive minds that you're bringing in here,

1094
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 3: and if you're trying.

1095
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 5: To classify this as a solid offensive line, no, not yet.

1096
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 2: Okay, now yet, But but where's the focus been this

1097
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: off season? Coaches?

1098
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: Listen, running gun game? Okay, all right, so so something's

1099
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: going to change. You're not going to go into the

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Speaker 3: season with the same guys you're going That's.

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Speaker 5: Not the hypothetical we're putting out there.

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Speaker 2: What is the biggest What is I'm saying the running scheme?

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Speaker 2: If anything? Right now you can feel dog on good

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Speaker 2: about what the.

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Speaker 3: Passing game or the running game going into the season

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Speaker 3: with the coaching stab that they put in player no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: we're talking what personnel that is going to be utilized

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Speaker 3: within the Scheme's running your ball.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah, I will run the ball.

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Speaker 3: If you have the scheme that's gonna move guys off

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Speaker 3: the ball, You're bro, you.

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Speaker 2: Need another very Henry, I'm too figured right now. You

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Speaker 2: understand me. Listen, I'm so serious, bro, Like I will

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Speaker 2: run the old line, the old line. The emphasis is

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Speaker 2: on the scheme of the old.

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Speaker 3: Line and the coaching and development of the old line

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Speaker 3: that has been a focus of Shottenheim.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it is you, who bodies on the art line.

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Speaker 2: We gotta go, We gotta go real quick.

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Speaker 6: Wide receiver two, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's your two or one?

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Speaker 6: Be why receiver two?

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Speaker 2: You don't have bodies? Who's running your ball? I love it.

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Speaker 5: And it's split in the the chat section too. I'm

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Speaker 5: watching like it's like almost every other question, it's we've

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Speaker 5: got a running back, wide receiver, running back, wide receiver

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Speaker 5: for Patrick Nose, walker for Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back,

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Speaker 5: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. I think

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Speaker 5: the biggest need is a running back this offseason.

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