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And I'm 25 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: telling you the more details the better, because I like 26 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: a big email and I like to really go and 27 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: dig into it and just to kind of break it 28 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: down and decipher the bits and pieces, and uh, I 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: think the listeners appreciate it as well. Now I have 30 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: an interesting show for you today because I'm going to 31 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: go over some rather basic mistakes that keep going on 32 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to the entire shadow people quote shadow 33 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: people conversation, because it's getting a little maddening and um, 34 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what best to do, like 35 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: when people grab information and don't know where it came 36 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: from and then twist it. What I mean, look at 37 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: the sources, please, you know, have a look, sit down 38 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: and think about it. Does this make sense? Why is 39 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: this out here? Why is it in this position? And 40 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean I am getting so many like emails or 41 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: mentionings or conversations in different mess cenjurs and everybody's mixing up, 42 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: what are shadow people? And um, you know I am 43 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: telling you. Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of an authority on it. Whoops, 44 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: um speak of my parents. Proud, I guess. But when 45 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: you think about shadow people, people just think anything that's dark, 46 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like, oh my gosh, where did 47 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: they get this from? And it's from all the people 48 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: who just grabbed stuff, weren't original about anything, and just 49 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: figured well, I'm just gonna put a little frosting on 50 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: this and I'm going to say this is what it is, 51 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: or people just innocently assumed because somebody else in a 52 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: conversation said, oh, that's what shadow people are. Oh my gosh. Okay, 53 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: So I'm going to break it down rather detailed because 54 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I think it's important. I think it's necessary because there 55 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: are a mixture of batties out in the world, okay, 56 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: and it might help to decipher which is which and 57 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: how best to deal with them because it is really 58 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: really just um, it's just a mess out there anymore. 59 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: And pardon me if my voice sounds a little bit craggy, um, 60 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: because I'm just getting over a cold. But I'm I'm 61 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: breaking through. I'm breaking through. But okay, starting from the 62 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: top shadow people. What do I consider shadow people? Well, 63 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: they've never been people. Okay. These things are shape shifters. 64 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: They can blanket a room with something that kind of 65 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: looks like a tentacle filled cloud. All right. Some people 66 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: will even report seeing like almost static electricity in the cloud, 67 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: like a little little storm is happening. Other times it's 68 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: just a black mass or a really really dark corner. Okay. 69 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes in that dark corner, and they might see something 70 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: kind of manifesting, like a form taking shape, but not 71 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: as anything in particular. Okay. Sometimes it can look like 72 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: something I deem as head and shoulder shadow being. What 73 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: is that? Well, that is a big beast who's really 74 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: kind of gross. Um. He could be anywhere from six 75 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: to ten feet tall. He's massive. So he looks like 76 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: this thing with its head directly connected to its shoulders, 77 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: and it's kind of rounded. Okay. You don't see arms, 78 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: you don't see legs. Sometimes you'll see red glowing slanted eyes. Okay. 79 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: That that is a is a It's not always a 80 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: common thing, but it is something that people do report. 81 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: And but they don't have to have eyeballs. Okay, they don't, 82 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: and they're not perfectly round or anything like that. And 83 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: then there's sometimes I do hear people talking of this 84 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: more loosely figured shadow being that kind of looks like 85 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: a person and it kind of looks like arms and 86 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: kind of looks like legs, but they're kind of bendy. Okay, 87 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: they kind of stretch out longer than they should and 88 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: curvy even like not not human at all, not not 89 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: a people type at all. Okay. Um, Sometimes people do 90 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: see something like a ghost that is shadowed. That's not 91 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: a shadow person. Okay, that is a ghost, and that 92 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: is a figure of a ghost. Okay, if it's really detailed, 93 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: that that's a that's a ghost, all right, Um, shadow 94 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: people never been people. Okay. They could also take on 95 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: something that looks like a streak, like like something zipping 96 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: through your place, but it's too big and too streaky 97 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: to actually be a bug or a bat or a 98 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: bird stuck in your place. Okay, do we got that. 99 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes you can spot it, but it might just be 100 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: a cloud or an out of focus mass. Okay, that's 101 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: a shadow streak. That's what I call them. Shadow clouds 102 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: are these things that can look staticky, as I mentioned, 103 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: and might have tentacles, um. Shadow spiders also have tentacles. Now, 104 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: shadow spiders, let's get into that, because those little devil's 105 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: um really got on my last nerve because those were 106 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: the ones I saw the most of. And I don't 107 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: know how to even describe the horror and the terror 108 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: of seeing a super duper large man eating size spider 109 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: in your face. Okay. And and the ones I saw 110 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: looked very much like an over grown spider. Now, a 111 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: lot of people will say, you know, it kind of 112 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: looked like a spider. It kind of looked like I 113 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: had a body and I had these wild curvy tentacles. 114 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: What does that sound like? Those those uh slash kind 115 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: of human looking things with those curvy tentacle like arms. So, 116 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: but they're not quite the same thing I saw shadow spiders. 117 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: One took up the entire ceiling, okay, and it lost 118 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: its grip and hit my bed. That you want to 119 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: talk about a near heart attack? Um? Yeah. And that 120 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: thing was crawling up my bed and came right to 121 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: my face. And I mean I could have counted the 122 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: eyeballs and I could see the reflection. They were shiny. 123 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: It was solid. It was very solid, But it made 124 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: no sense to be there but I'll tell you this. 125 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: The tentacles, the legs, they looked a little bit out 126 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: of focus at the ends, but look at that shadowy 127 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: creatures that can shape shift into something so solid. That 128 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: is a gift of shadow beings. Okay, so they can 129 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: do that now, I've also dealt with these are horrible 130 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: shadow spiders that are itty bitty okay, like your typical 131 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:59,359 Speaker 1: house spider, which are disgusting on their own, but thousands 132 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: of them, thousands of them all over my body waking 133 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: up seeing them, okay, very solid, very much like a spider, 134 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: and just not being able to get rid of them. 135 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: I mean, just those are I don't know what's worse, 136 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: spiders a spiders. They're disgusting. So I'm there. I'm at 137 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: the same level for the big ones to the thousands 138 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: of little ones. Okay, um, so yeah, not not a 139 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: good feeling now. And then there's something called a shadow sphere. Okay. 140 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: Shadow spheres are very solid looking as well and shiny, 141 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: and they kind of congregate and pulled together and kind 142 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: of like you see ghost orbs that create these type 143 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: of voids are portals that people report seeing a lot 144 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: of different activity going on in a certain location these 145 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: things created. I only got to witness them once, thank God, 146 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: with a friend. Mind you, it just gives me chills. 147 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Um very solid. These things created a black portal and 148 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: we're lifting me into the air to go through it. 149 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: It was like a crack in the ceiling and I'm 150 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: lying on my foot on fell asleep watching TV. College 151 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: roommate is the bedroom door is wide open to where 152 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm lying, and one of these fears hit them awake, 153 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: and they saw me going up to the crack in 154 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: the ceiling to imagine this, and they leaned out and 155 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: screamed my name. I shrieked. I saw myself coming close 156 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: to this crack in the ceiling and got dropped down 157 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: so hard. Futon futons are not soft, Okay, that's like 158 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: cheap college furniture. And and and realizing I don't know what, 159 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: but I felt like I was about to bite it, 160 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: like I was done for, like these things had done 161 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: some bad mojo. And then all these fears that were 162 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: floating in the air congregated onto the ceiling. Okay, and 163 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: uh faded like and and me and my my college 164 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: friend were crowded on the floor and was like, oh 165 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: my god, I could see I'm still like to see 166 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: them sail as they tried to fade and the cracks 167 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: started to fade. We were too afraid to reach up 168 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: and flip the light switch on, but we finally did 169 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: and we could still see these things. Those are shadow space. 170 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: So those are some of the forms that shadow people take. 171 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: So we're gonna go into little bit more detail on that, 172 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: and then we're going to get into some of your emails. 173 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: You guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 174 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 175 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: to Coast I AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll 176 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: be right back. Welcome back. You are listening to Dark 177 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 178 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Just 179 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: before the break, I was kind of going through the 180 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: motions on exactly what shadow people are, how they look, 181 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: what they do, and I wanted to continue that conversation 182 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: and then get a little bit into what people are 183 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: commonly mistaken to be shadow people. Yeah, it's just too 184 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: much um just saying, but I don't know, it's just 185 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: it's been a bit frustrating because the conversations going on 186 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: out there are just so varied, and I'm like, you know, 187 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: I wish that, you know, sometimes that they would just 188 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: go to the source and and and ask like, where 189 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: did you get this from? You know, it's not me 190 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: who laid down exactly this is what's what. It wasn't me, Um, 191 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: it was my experiences. Yeah, and it came from other 192 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: places as far as something not being quite human, uh, 193 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: that I experienced that I've talked about on this program 194 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: a gazillion times already. But you know, just keeping it real, 195 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, Um, these conversation agents need to happen because 196 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: if they don't, people get confused. And uh, I think 197 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: real harm is being done out there because the truth 198 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: hasn't been spoken on always and um, and I get it. 199 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: People have research on their own from other people who 200 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: did research on their own from another person, and it 201 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: just gets deluded and deluded. And and then of course 202 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: there's people who have their own opinions on these things. Um. 203 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: You know, if these things were just my opinions, it 204 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: would be one thing. And yes, I do see patterns 205 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: after all these years of talking on these things. UM, 206 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: But again I got this information from alien interaction that 207 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: I had a very very very long time ago with 208 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: the college roommates. So, um, yeah, so here we go. 209 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: I was talking about all these different types, right, and 210 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: the feeling that you get from shadow spheres, shadow streaks, 211 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: shadow clouds, shadow spiders, head and shoulder shadow. Um, and 212 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: there's also shadow rodents. By the way. People say, they 213 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: so where they saw a mouse or a rat but 214 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: it was all black, and they'll see it run into 215 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: a closet or something and it is never found, never found. 216 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: I've been in that situation with a friend of mine 217 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: who was so certain they couldn't believe a rather good 218 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: sized rodent ran into their closet and blocked it off, 219 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: sealed it off, went piece by piece with items in 220 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: their closet. I went there, it was not found. There 221 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: was no escape for this thing, and I'm like, I 222 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: think you've been had by a shadow rodent, and uh yeah. 223 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: So it's something that happens more often than I think 224 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: people realize. And for me, I wish sometimes with the 225 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: shadow spiders that I've experienced, Um, I wish sometimes the 226 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: big spiders that I see in real life were just 227 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: a shadow spider sometimes. But I haven't been that lucky 228 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: sometimes either. Um. But now to break it down about 229 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: what people are confusing to be shadow beings or shadow people. 230 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: Shadow people do not wear clothes. Did you hear me? 231 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Shadow people do not wear clothes. No, if you see clothes, 232 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: that's not one of them. Okay. So I keep seeing 233 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: online and reading and being told and conversations about a grim, 234 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: reaper looking creature out there. Okay, And um, now I'm 235 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: not going to say that they don't work alongside of 236 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: some of these shadow being that they're not seen with 237 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: them or cooperating or even conversating or directing each other. 238 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean I should say the shadow beings get directed 239 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: to do something versus the other way around. There is 240 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: literally a big, tall, hooded creature that can sometimes have 241 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: glowing red eyes with literally skeleton like fingers, carrying a sickle, 242 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: not kidding, no, not at all, with a skeleton like 243 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: face as well, so it looks like skeletor from he 244 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: man um seriously, and people are describing this thing all 245 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: over the world. I had a good friend who was 246 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: driving in broad daylight and on highway and you know 247 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: the dividing part of the high away. What does he 248 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: see but like an eight foot tall, grim reaper looking thing, 249 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: hoofing it, just walking super fast, had a staff with 250 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: a sickle on the end, and instinctively somehow he knew 251 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: it was going towards a church. And he's like, oh 252 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: my gosh. And then really soon after that, there's a 253 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: church and he knew he was going towards that church, 254 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: which gives me chills and something I want to address 255 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: in the next segment. Actually, um so, yeah, grim reaper 256 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: and very solid, very solid, not not shadowy solid, Okay, 257 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: wearing clothes all right, now, I know I've distinguished this 258 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: one before. But if there is a short, hooded creature 259 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: wearing clothes, oftentimes with round glowing red eyes, not a 260 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: shadow person, O you hear me? Not short, really, that's 261 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: an alien. Yes they can walk through walls. Yes they 262 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: try to hide. They don't want to be spotted either, 263 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: because then you're able to, I don't know, defend yourself, 264 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: prepare yourself something through some sprinkles, some Jesus on it. 265 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: As I always say, what what what? What's confusing? It's 266 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: not a shadow person. It just doesn't. And there's been 267 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: people who have actually seen them take their wood down. 268 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: They have a big troll like face and are often blue. 269 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: It's not a smurf. Okay, it's just not it's an 270 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: alien okay. And yes they have seen right alongside of 271 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: shadow people as well. Um, so that does happen. Uh. 272 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: And then there is the conversation that is true heavily 273 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: my own fault. Yes, yes, I originally called hat Man 274 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: the hat Man Shadow. Why did I do that? I 275 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: know I've mentioned it here before. I hadn't experienced him myself. 276 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: He was witnessed by my college roommate who I found 277 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: hovering in the corner, screaming, shaking and fear. And the 278 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: way that she described how he stood in the shadows 279 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: and then stepped out of the shadows, I assumed it 280 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: was just another form that shadow people could and would take. Well, yeah, 281 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: he could blend into the walls, he could walk through 282 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: the walls, and he likes to hide sometimes. But hat 283 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: Man is very distinctive for a reason, and he likes 284 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: you to get a good look at him. I mean, 285 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: if he's blending in with the corner, he'll step out 286 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: and give you a nice smile of his pearly whites 287 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: that looked like that pen Wise from the movie It. Yeah, 288 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: it's really nasty, sharky, disgusting teeth and you will lose 289 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: sleep if you ever see that nasty grin. Just being honest. Um, 290 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: but yeah, so he is uh, very solid, and what 291 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: is he doing. He's wearing clothing, He's wearing a hat. 292 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: He wanted to know it's him. He wants you to 293 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: know this phenomena is a real thing. A lot of 294 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: people are like, hey, maybe, yeah, this is be coming 295 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: into one of those things where people's consciousness are creating him. No, no, no, 296 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: it is the other way around. I get very commonly 297 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: still people saying, o mg, I thought it was the 298 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: only one. They had no idea that there was an 299 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: actual phenomena to all of this going on. Um so 300 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: and and for many years, many years, decades even people 301 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: not knowing. So, this is not something that is being 302 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: created out of people's imagination, all right, it's not a 303 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: topa um and you know what this whole confusing it 304 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: and throwing it into the category of shadow people. Why 305 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: it's disturbing to me is because then it's treated as 306 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: just another form shadow people can take. Hat Man is 307 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: not a passing fancy. It is not an easy pill 308 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: to swallow when you have ever witnessed him in your 309 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: entire lifetime. I've had people say I saw him forty 310 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: years ago and my life has been ruined as a 311 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: result because they're so terrified he'll ever show up again. 312 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: He says he's the devil himself. He will brag about it, 313 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: and when you meet him, you feel that, and then 314 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: you get those people are like, well, he didn't scare me, 315 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: so he must not be so bad. Well, guess what, 316 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: He's just working on you. He might be working on 317 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: you for years, but he's working on you. You haven't 318 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: felt that. What comes off from him, Oh boy, it's uh, 319 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: it's something else, and it's something that I would never 320 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: wish on anybody. So it was my own fault to 321 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: initially I think he was a shadow being. But I 322 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: corrected myself, and a long time ago because the stories 323 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: that came in. I only had the one to go 324 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: off initially from my friend, and the stories that came 325 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: in let me know that this guy was solid, he 326 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: was real, He was active, and he was on the move, 327 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: and he was making a name and reputation for himself 328 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: as the Devil himself. And more recently I made it 329 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: clear here on this program, you should check out my 330 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: show called Ariman Um. I learned that he has another 331 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: name he goes by just by happenstance. Somebody showed me 332 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: this sculpture and I'm like, wow, who did a cool 333 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: sculpture of at Man? And it was like put the 334 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: brake ons? What did you say? Apparently Rudolph Steiner a 335 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: hundred years ago said that somebody or somehow the talk 336 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: of Ariman coming into reality and people recognizing and knowing 337 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: him would be pretty much put on the map a 338 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: hundred years ago, and it would be a hundred years 339 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: later somebody would step forward, and I guess on that person. 340 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: So pat Man is a real threat and to be 341 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: taken us such. All right, we gotta get to our 342 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: next break. We're going to continue this conversation. Then I'll 343 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: stop dive into something a little bit different. I think 344 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: you might find it fascinating. All right, you guys, you 345 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis 346 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM 347 00:25:49,520 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll be right back. Welcome back. You 348 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis 349 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a 350 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: am paranormal podcast network. Just to end things a little bit. 351 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: When it comes to the topic of Arimon being hat 352 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: Man again, it's something I spoke of on a prior show, 353 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's just I can't even tell 354 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: you what that revelation was like for me to get 355 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: those chills of like, exactly where did this thing come from? 356 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: And Rudolph Steiner regarded him as the devil as well, 357 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: and I mean the sculpture of his head is so 358 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: dead on to eyewitness accounts of what hat Man looks like, 359 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: very solid, very real, very much a threat, and very 360 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: much part of the quote unquote End Times prophecies. You know, 361 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: even in Rudolf Steiner uh discussing the topic of what 362 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: Ariman was up to, is goes hand in hand with 363 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: what hat Man is doing and the devil. It's just 364 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: holding your energy, creating negative energy and trying to stop 365 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: the progress of mankind evolve spiritually and everything else included 366 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: with that. So um yeah, it's really really um gosh, 367 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: it it really shook me up. And I hope it's 368 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: something that I can explore further as time permits. And 369 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: uh yeah, and I hope you guys, I look into 370 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: it as well. But you know, I wanted to touch 371 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: on something before I get to an email that I received. Um, 372 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: So you know I'm a little bit weird. Okay, you 373 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: guys know this part already. Um. I've because a lot 374 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: of crazy experiences and and I've had a lot of 375 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: stuff and what I call quote unquote waking dreams. You 376 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: know what are waking dreams? Those are dreams that are 377 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: so real it's hard to believe they didn't actually take place. 378 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: And it always leaves me like searching, like whoa, whoa. 379 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: I wake up from it, I'm looking around like where 380 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: am I? What happened? And oh my gosh, that was 381 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: a dream. It's just so bizarre. So, um, I had 382 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: one that really gives me the willies and makes me 383 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: think like, this is something that is going on today, 384 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: and this is something that I had a waking dream 385 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: of probably a year ago, all right. And what I 386 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: saw was people of the clergy and not just regular 387 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: people too, coming into various sacred ground places like churches 388 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: and desecrating it, like purposely aping or drawing symbols and 389 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: hiding it and putting it in the ground. Scratching it 390 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: into the wood, horrible things, just to make sure that 391 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,719 Speaker 1: if you were to go there seeking refuge, you know, 392 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: like a holy place, someplace that might keep out negative things. 393 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: They're like creating these little portals to make sure that 394 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: things can get in. What a disturbing thought. And it's 395 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: something that I didn't want to bring up for a 396 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: long time. And then I've been hearing and reading stories 397 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: of horrible things being done in various sacred places to 398 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: make sure with with these words, making sure that you know, 399 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: this holy ground is no longer as clean as originally thought, 400 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: and how how horrific. I just can't even describe to 401 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: you what it was like to wake up from that knowing. 402 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: Um it seemed like a real knowing for myself anyhow 403 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: that this was happening, and now I know it is, 404 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: And um I did share it with a couple of 405 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: friends and they're like, oh, gosh, I believe it. I 406 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: believe people will be that rotten to do such a thing, 407 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: and oh, it just makes my skin crawl. And I 408 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 1: just wanted to bring it to your attention. It's like, 409 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: how can we make these places that are considered holy 410 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: make sure they're holy pray, fill it with prayer, go 411 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: around and bless it, um, you know, seal it with blessings. 412 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: Something needs to be done because it feels like something 413 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: is just off. To have had that and then to 414 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: see these types of things in the news without being 415 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: specific is saying just putting it out there. And uh, 416 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: and my voice sounds a little bit clear. It doesn't. 417 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: It got this cold. It's just lingering. But it's all good. Um. 418 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I wanted to address this email that 419 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: I got because I have had a salut of folks 420 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: reaching out to me and and it's like, I am 421 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: so humbled, absolutely humbled that people take the time to 422 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: reach out to me the way that they do. I 423 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: am not going to knock that, and I feel really 424 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: good inside that they m say these types of things 425 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: to me. So I'm gonna read this email and it 426 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: says Ms. Hollis very proper. Um. I'm reaching out to 427 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: you today for your opinion and knowledge about the hat 428 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: man that has recently taken place. There is so much 429 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: that I need to say, and typing you this email 430 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: would be very very long. I know you're probably super busy, 431 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: but if you can, please just contact me at and uh, 432 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: they put their whole phone number there. I would greatly 433 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: appreciate it more than you can imagine. Thank you for 434 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: your time, and they signed it as Bill. Well, um, 435 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: oh man. I get a lot of these, and I'm 436 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm warmed to the core of me to that that 437 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: I come off as friendly enough to be like, how 438 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: do you just give me a call? Come on now, 439 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: I really wish I could do that, but I get 440 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: so many requests like that, and it's impossible. It is impossible. 441 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: But there's this little trick that people can do, and 442 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: it's called talk to text. How about that where you 443 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: go to your email and you talk into your phone 444 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: and have a type it out for you, put the 445 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: details in that way. Trust me, If it's not perfect, 446 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: it's okay. I've been able to figure a lot of 447 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: these emails out where I could tell people are really 448 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: trying hard to type these emails out, and uh, they 449 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: could be really kind of messy as well. So I 450 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: know how talk to text can be messy and it's okay, 451 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: but truly make the effort, because I have had so 452 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: many of those lately and I'm like, oh, if only 453 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: or or the this is the other more common email 454 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: that I've been getting lately. It's a it's up. Hey, 455 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: if you want to learn more, write me back. He'd 456 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: fill out my form on my website that says please 457 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: fill this out just to say if I want to 458 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: learn more. Okay, I just had to put that out 459 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: there because it's just it's been amazing to me lately 460 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: how many of those have been getting. But again, the 461 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: places for you, how else are we going to learn 462 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 1: if we aren't sharing. And uh, I know a lot 463 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: of people like to uh not be the center of 464 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: attention when it comes to the paranormal. And that's another 465 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: bit of education that I think people should know that 466 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: this is not something that you want to be known 467 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 1: for having experienced something really super duper evil, scary, bewildering, 468 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: uh sci fi sounding. Do you don't make a living 469 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: off this guy's Okay? That is so rare. That is 470 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: so rare. I could count on one hand, maybe one finger, 471 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: where people have been a living on this. Okay, Um, 472 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: it does it. People keep their day jobs, Okay, Um, 473 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: it is just uh, it's just it's just not in 474 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: the plan, all right. Um. And I have to tell 475 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: you too that as more and more people dive into 476 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: these topics like trying to get that paranormal show, try 477 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: to find that golden goose of evidence to say this 478 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: is it. Um, I think a lot is getting missed. 479 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: I think that you know, people are so busy chasing 480 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: they're not contemplating what they're doing, and they're putting themselves 481 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: at super risk. This is like hitch Higher syndrome is 482 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: for real. Okay, people do get things attached to them. 483 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: You can walk through a graveyard to get things attached 484 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: to you. I know I have, and that sucks. Um. 485 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: So you have to be careful if you're opening up 486 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: to such a thing. Such a thing may look back 487 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: and look up your address and there are next thing 488 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: you know in your home. I mean, it's just not 489 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: something you want, okay. Um, So we got to be 490 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: careful and we have to know what we're doing. We 491 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: have to prepare ourselves, we have to bless ourselves, protect 492 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: our personal space. If you're going into try to help someone, 493 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: I'm all about trying to help people. So if it 494 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: ever comes to it where I can do that physically 495 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: going out to places as I once did, I would 496 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: do that. I don't generally do that because I got 497 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: so inundated with so much at home, with such things 498 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: coming at me, and then having worldwide uh shadow people 499 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: hat man infestation. I could reach more people sitting behind 500 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: a microphone, but hot dog, I sure would like to 501 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: go out there more and meet the people and show 502 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,800 Speaker 1: them it happens to the best of us, these types 503 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: of things. And to be able to take these things 504 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: with a little sense of humor um, because evil really 505 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: hates when you laugh at it. That is one of 506 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: my secret weapons, besides sprinkling Jesus on these topics, to 507 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: protect myself and to be able to stand up and 508 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: have the strength to deal with some of the things 509 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: that I do and people are like, oh you giggle, Yeah, 510 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: I do. My personality is that way. But it also 511 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: you know, I've dealt with some crazy things and all 512 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: I know is how best to be myself and uh 513 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: take it on like a trooper. Um. So you know, 514 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: I hope that again that people are safe out there 515 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: and what they're doing, and this information that people are 516 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: spreading out there, it's important to keep it real and 517 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: authentic and true to the phenomenal um. You know. And 518 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to let you guys know coming up in 519 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: this next segment. I've got a pretty juicy email here. 520 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: I haven't read it all, but I'm going to dive 521 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: into it with you guys here right on this program, 522 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: because it looks like it's an urgent one. I don't know. 523 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: I can't tell when it's dick. I love it, and 524 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm always curious what's in there. I dig in when 525 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: you guys hear me. So all right, you guys, you 526 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis 527 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and co to Coast AM 528 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, I'll be right back. Welcome back. 529 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 530 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,800 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 531 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. As promised, I have one of 532 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: your emails here that looks to be a doozy and 533 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: this one reads high hiding. It's really amazing that after 534 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: all these years, I finally have an answer to what 535 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: I saw as a child more than thirty five years ago. 536 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: It was something that I've never been able to explain. 537 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: But also some thing I know wasn't a childhood dream 538 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: because the story has never changed and the memory has 539 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: never faded, so I can, in fact now say with 540 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: confidence that I did, indeed have an experience with what 541 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: you have termed as the hat man. This happened to 542 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: me in n six when I was just eleven years old. 543 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: It was at nighttime. I left my room to go 544 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: to the kitchen to get a glass of water. I 545 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: filled my glass up and began walking back through the 546 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: kitchen to my room. I stopped at the beginning of 547 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,919 Speaker 1: the hallway to take a sip of my water. From 548 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: where I was standing, you could see clear across to 549 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: the family room on the other side of the house 550 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: about twenty ft. As I was drinking, I got the 551 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: strongest sensation that I was being watched. I looked over 552 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: to the family room and there it was, sitting on 553 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: the couch, staring directly at me. It was wearing a 554 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: large fedora type hat with a big brim and a 555 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: trench coat that went all the way down to its feet. 556 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: The trench coat also had very big buckles across the 557 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: middle where buttons would normally be. Well, this is interesting. Wow, 558 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of detail on this this one. I'm 559 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: really kind of appreciating this. Oddly, um, the couches were white, 560 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: and what this thing was wearing was very black. The 561 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: contrast was so incredibly stark. After reading about this online, 562 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: it seems like most people have only seen its silhouette. Interesting. Interesting, 563 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: I unfortunately saw its entire face. Oh okay, okay, I 564 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: gotta take a breath around this one. Hold on. It 565 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: was and remains to this day, the scariest thing I 566 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: have ever seen that. Oh my god, oh my gosh, 567 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: that Rudolph Steiner sculpture you display on your website, it 568 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: is exactly it's face. Oh my gosh, I cannot Oh 569 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: my gosh. Guys, I did not read ahead. I did 570 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: not read ahead. This is so crazy. I was just 571 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: talking about this, I swear to you. It seems like 572 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: the things that come to mind that I start talking about. 573 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: There's an email to follow up. I mean, this is 574 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: so crazy, this is crazy. This is exactly Oh my gosh, okay, 575 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: so like I forgot to even mention on Heidi Hollis 576 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: dot com, I do have that image of Rudolf Steiner's sculpture. 577 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, So okay. Repeating that Rudolf Steiner sculpture 578 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: you dis play on your website is exactly its face, 579 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 1: with a pale gray skin, but also with a smile 580 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: that went almost ear to ear. Didn't I tell you 581 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: it's a nasty smile. It's nasty and with very sharp, 582 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: jagged teeth, the way an alligator would have. It was 583 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: utterly terrifying. Guys, don't you have goose bumps? I mean 584 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: the worst kind. I stood there, paralyzed for what seemed 585 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: like for ever. I didn't make a sound or acknowledge 586 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: it in any way. I simply turned around and slowly 587 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: walked back to my room and went to bed. Wow, 588 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: you are a tough kid. That was pretty thug. That 589 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: was pretty thug, and he continues. For the longest time, 590 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 1: I didn't really know how to describe what I saw 591 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: because it was so strange. My grandmother had passed away 592 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: a few months prior. At first I thought maybe it 593 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 1: was her spirit boy, but that explanation never felt right. 594 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: My grandmother was a kind woman. In this entity, whatever 595 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: it was did not exude goodness. Can I get an 596 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: amen to that one? Um? I got the feeling of 597 00:43:54,560 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: complete dread when I was in its presence. Over the years, 598 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: I didn't really think too much about it until I 599 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: saw a documentary on sleep paralysis, and it mentioned shadow 600 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: beings totally different things. People. Um has started to research 601 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 1: it online and that's how I found your website. Well, hallelujah, 602 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: because that's where it came from. Um. It's truly mind 603 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 1: blowing to find out after all this time that I'm 604 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: not the only one who has had this experience. Here's 605 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: another one. I'm not sure how you managed to handle 606 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: researching this topic because as I previously said, it was 607 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: the single most frightening thing that's ever happened to me. 608 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: Good luck to you and keep up the great work. Sincerely, Roland. 609 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: That's really kind of you. Oh, I tell you, Roland, 610 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: it's not easy. Um, it's a dark thing, and it's 611 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: something that uh, I don't know how much of my 612 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: work you've heard of, but you know, from the beginning 613 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: of my consciousness, I remember agreeing to come here during 614 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: this time. I mean, it's a weird thing to say 615 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: some people remember past life. Well, this is like a 616 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,959 Speaker 1: past existence. I remembered out of nowhere as wild. So 617 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 1: to say that I was made for this, born for this, 618 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 1: like this is it for me? I mean, yeah, this 619 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: is a this is my song sounds kind of twisted, 620 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: but you know it's for me. I guess I built 621 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: up a thick skin because I was raising a haunted 622 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 1: house and it just kind of went from there. And again, 623 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: having a sense of humor really does help. But I'm 624 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: still blown away at this email coming up. And I 625 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: just brought up the Araman and the sculpture. I mean, 626 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: I swear to you, I can't. I just couldn't have 627 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: planned this any better. It just blows my mind. It's 628 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: like when I pulled two emails that kind of bounce 629 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: off from each other. You know, it's it's just so perfect. 630 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: And here we are he witnessed hat Man's face perfectly 631 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: matches the Araman sculpture. Okay, and I want to read 632 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: to you guys, Rudolf Steiner, um what he said in 633 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 1: regard to who Ariman is and uh what he's about. 634 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 1: And this is a description of one of his books. 635 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: I literally paused my recording here and looked it up. 636 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't planned. It's called the Incarnation of Ariman, the 637 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: embodiment of Evil on Earth, and it says Ariman is 638 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: a significant figure of Persian mythology. Rudolf Steiner, however, spoke 639 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: of Ariman as an actual, living, spiritual entity. This being, 640 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: he said, works to embed human beings firmly until their physicality, 641 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: thus encouraging dull materialistic attitudes and a course dry intellect. 642 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: In these extraordinary lectures, Steiner assumes a rare prophetic mode. 643 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 1: He talks about an actual incarnation of Ariman on Earth 644 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: and the potential consequences of this event. Just as Christ 645 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: incarnated in a physical body, so would Ariman incarnate in 646 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: the Western world before a part of the third millennium 647 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: has passed. Steiner places this incarnation in the context of 648 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:52,240 Speaker 1: a quote cosmic tread that includes Ariman, Lucifer, and Christ. 649 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: Ariman will incarnate as a counterpoint to the physical incarnation 650 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: of Lucifer, which took place in the East during the 651 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: third millennium BC. The incarnation of Jesus Christ took place 652 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 1: in Palestine as part of balance between the two. Now, 653 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say I subscribe fully to Rudolf Steiner, 654 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:19,360 Speaker 1: but truly shocking for him to describe and create the 655 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: sculpture of Ariman a k. A hat Man, and to 656 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: predict a hundred years from when he created this that 657 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: someone would be speaking on the topic and Ariman will 658 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 1: be incarnate like physical living among us, which is super 659 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: duper highly disturbing. I hope I never meet that person. Yuck. 660 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: Um so wow, unbelievable, Roland. I want to thank you 661 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time to write me, because 662 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: this really just brings it full circle and what I've 663 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: been telling people in regards to the topic of hat 664 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: man and uh unbelievable. So anyways, I want to remind 665 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: you guys to please go to my main website, Heidi 666 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: Hollis dot com and tell me about what it is 667 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: that you're experiencing out there. Tell me what you'd like 668 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: me to discuss here on the program, or have a 669 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: certain type of gas top covering a certain topic, or 670 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: anything and everything out of the ordinary. You know how 671 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: it grows, right, So, um, I think keeping this conversation 672 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: going is definitely going to be the key to solving 673 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: these crazy riddles that are in our world. How else 674 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: will we do it? Right? Drop the egos, drop the attitude, 675 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: drop the omissions, get on it. It has to be done. 676 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 1: And also do not forget to go and check out 677 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: the Outlanders comic dot com my paranormal comic strip. Um. 678 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: I have been having a ball doing this comic because 679 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: it covers absolutely everything that I write my books about. 680 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: So we've got the weirdos, and we've got the aliens, 681 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: we got the big foot, lake monsters, you name it. 682 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm addressing because it's fun. Um, it's fun to have 683 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: a sense of humor on these things. But all right, 684 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: you guys, you know, um, once again, I've had a 685 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 1: great time coming these topics, and I hope you're enjoying 686 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: these programs as well. You have been listening to Dark 687 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 688 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Thanks 689 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: so much again, you guys, stay safe for everybody's goodbye. Well, 690 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 1: if you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait 691 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: until you hear the next one. You've been listening to 692 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast Coast a M Paranormal 693 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: Podcast Network.