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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of the Almost podcast.

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Speaker 2: They were going a little bit in depth with Lace Morris.

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Speaker 2: We're so excited. She's a new mom, a new mom

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Speaker 2: of five days. I can't believe we're getting her to

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Speaker 2: join us now. It's so exciting. Thank you. And also,

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Speaker 2: you know you guys, if you don't, if you don't

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Speaker 2: know the name Lace Morris, I'm sure you actually do

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Speaker 2: because she was a huge star on Ben season, and

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Speaker 2: she was a huge star and Bachelor in Paradise. We

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Speaker 2: were there for two seasons together. And Lace, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: Wait, so you've been on Paradise? How many times? Lace?

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Speaker 3: Twice?

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Speaker 4: Twice?

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: She was with me when Jared and I came back

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Speaker 2: for a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit, Case, I was like, how many times? Again?

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Speaker 5: Lace, We've promised our listeners now for the last week

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Speaker 5: that we're gonna have you on.

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Speaker 4: They're very excited because we did break down the headline that.

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Speaker 5: You are a new mother five days ago.

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Speaker 4: Five days you.

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Speaker 3: Had had to like not stop.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well that's good.

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Speaker 2: Well I get that. I get it because when I

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Speaker 2: would just had Dawson they had me come on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Or even when they had me, they forced forced me

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Speaker 4: to come back.

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Speaker 2: And I was like sitting around like a week or

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Speaker 2: so later, and I was like, well, I mean I

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Speaker 2: could do a podcast, like I can get in the

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Speaker 2: room and like talk on a mic and sit down,

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Speaker 2: you know when he's napping, like somebody else can hold

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Speaker 2: him for an hour. So I feel I feel you

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Speaker 2: on that. But there's a lot of things that I

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Speaker 2: also could not do at this point, like stand up.

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Speaker 3: Stand up, Ashley, I've ever done it, and you think

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Speaker 3: you think so. We have a lot of stairs in

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Speaker 3: this house, so that doesn't help.

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Speaker 2: So you've been going up and down the stairs a lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as I did, you know, you gotta go

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Speaker 2: to bed, you gotta do so I gotta go shower.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, I mean I'm live from the bed.

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Speaker 3: So we're good.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So lace catches up a little bit here. You're

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Speaker 5: living where right now?

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Speaker 3: I'm in Denver.

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Speaker 5: You're in Denver, Colorado. Yeah, you're out here in Denver.

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Speaker 5: You are said you're super busy. So what exactly have

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Speaker 5: you been doing in the last five days that you

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Speaker 5: feel like you have overdone it, Like, how are you

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Speaker 5: kind of what is your time being used for right

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Speaker 5: now other than hey, doing exactly what you're doing right now,

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Speaker 5: old beautiful baby.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean my parents were here. My mom's still here,

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Speaker 3: but my dad left, so it's been really helpful having them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you still got to like get up and get food,

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Speaker 3: and you gotta change his diaper, and you gotta feed him.

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Speaker 3: And my dad was here, so I come up to

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Speaker 3: the nursery to feed him, and you know, just for

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Speaker 2: You got makeup on. Now you look fantastic. Thanks, you

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Speaker 2: look your hair's done. You look so amazing ready though, yes,

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Speaker 2: I remember the getting up to change diapers was like,

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Speaker 2: I that's not making me get off the couch, Like

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Speaker 2: I can't do it, like Jared to the majority of

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Speaker 2: diapers for the first few weeks, because it just hurt.

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Speaker 2: It really did, it really does. Okay, Well, Lace, you're

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Speaker 2: an open book. Can you talk to us about just

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Speaker 2: finding out you were pregnant and all in the beginning

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Speaker 2: of all.

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Speaker 3: This, Yeah, it was a whirlwind because I had just

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Speaker 3: gotten a new job, like a dream job where I'm

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is huge. You know, just got

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Speaker 2: Baby the first week of knowing him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wasn't very smart about it and found

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Speaker 3: out four weeks later I was pregnant.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, was this like, what was your initial reaction?

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Speaker 3: I was. I couldn't really believe it because I'm like me,

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Speaker 3: not that I've ever tried, but I just didn't think

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Speaker 2: What was the conversation with him?

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Speaker 3: Like I was scared, but he was really cool about it,

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Speaker 3: and we just sat on it for a couple of

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Speaker 3: of us were like, we gotta do it. We gotta

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Speaker 2: And what's your relationship? What was your relationship like throughout

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Speaker 2: the nine months of pregnancy.

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Speaker 3: It's been a roller coaster. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Is he local to Denver?

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Speaker 3: He's not. He's from Wyoming, but he lives here now,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So just tell us if you feel comfortable talking

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Speaker 2: or not talking about this. But I'm assuming he was

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Speaker 2: he present at the birth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was there at the birth. He was present,

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Speaker 3: and he did great. Unfortunately, it was just not a

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Speaker 3: very fun eight months and you know, you don't really

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Speaker 3: know someone, so we had a rough time. We're still

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Speaker 3: trying to navigate, you know, how to coparent and do everything.

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Speaker 3: Excuse you?

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Speaker 2: Is he somebody who wants to be like involved or.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he wants to be in Liam's life. And he's

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Speaker 3: already a dad. He's already a good dad. But he

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Speaker 3: he's trying to be as present as he can. So

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Speaker 3: let's get as long as he is a dad, We're good.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like you have enough of a village

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Speaker 3: I have an army behind me, so I honestly am

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Speaker 5: What's the I really want to get into two. I

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Speaker 5: mean the emotions now that you're holding Liam, like you're

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Speaker 5: sitting here and you're a mom five days again, which

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Speaker 5: is just wild that you're here with us, and then

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Speaker 5: I can see a little bit of Liam's you know face,

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Speaker 5: absolutely beautiful, Like what does this feel like?

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Speaker 3: It's so weird? I mean you know this actually, but

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Speaker 2: I know I had a moment like that a couple

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been. It's been a really big emotional rollercoaster

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Speaker 3: with the emotions so high, obviously for a swoman, but

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's really hard, Like it's so amazing looking

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Speaker 3: But then you're like I don't get my family. I

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Speaker 3: But when you look at him, you're just like so happy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, Ashley, you could probably speak to this,

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Speaker 5: but like, what is it like as a mother as

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Speaker 5: do take care of and you do care for but

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Speaker 5: you like you no longer have to hold him all

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Speaker 2: The pantry door, yeah.

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Speaker 4: And like do stuff.

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Speaker 5: So like what is that process like, because lace, I'll

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Speaker 5: be I'll be honest, like I'm listening to you. I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 5: it's got to be so hard like there and there's

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Speaker 5: no right, like like the obvious thing that's true is

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Speaker 5: like you're gonna be great at this, Like you're gonna

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Speaker 5: gotta army behind you. The other side of that is

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Speaker 5: like this is gonna be really hard, Like this is

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Speaker 5: really hard. This is probably like a shocking, confusing season.

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Speaker 5: But I say all that to say, also, like what

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Speaker 5: progresses and that like bond and relationship builds.

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Speaker 2: It's really gradual the way that it progresses. Like you'll

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Speaker 2: it's so weird that you are asking for something specific

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Speaker 3: It hasn't even been two years, Like how what?

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Speaker 2: So that's mind boggling. But for me, the bond just

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Speaker 2: grows every day. You feel so much more than every day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the boys are obsessed with their moms, as

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Speaker 2: everybody kind of tells you when you're pregnant, and then

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Speaker 3: I think it's weird too, because with the co parenting

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Speaker 3: right now, it's like, yeah, I'm realizing truly something I'm

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Speaker 3: I was always aware of a control freak, but now

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Speaker 3: a full blown control freak. And it's just like, even

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Speaker 3: I hate that time away from him. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like it's gonna be really hard. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: How do you guys plan?

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Speaker 5: Like, I mean, I'm sure you've had these conversations like

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Speaker 3: In the midst of it. Honestly, we're trying to figure

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Speaker 2: Awkwardly, so you guys were living together and now and

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Speaker 3: Now we got the whole dream setup before he was

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Speaker 3: and everything, and then it isn't working. So I'm currently looking.

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Speaker 3: On top of doing all this, I have to find

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Speaker 3: a place to live as well. So, gee, where your

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Speaker 3: parents live? And they live in Missouri?

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Speaker 2: Did you ever moved back to Missouri?

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Speaker 3: I'm from here, but they just moved out there because

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Speaker 3: they like, oh no, I would never move to Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not We're not laughing at Missouri.

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Speaker 6: I'm just I am.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us a little bit of your birth

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Speaker 2: story since like I'm and I love that stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I love birth stories. And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: that's fascinating because Nowaday went through it. So I was,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you watch?

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Speaker 5: Like the idea that you're your body is going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it is the worst pain I've ever felt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm fine.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for Ben to tell his birth story

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Speaker 5: That's okay, Lace, I okay, I'll preface this. You're obviously

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Speaker 3: This is a great question because I don't know. I see,

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Speaker 3: I really do.

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Speaker 4: Oh, you can do this. Yeah, there's no question in

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Speaker 3: That I don't know. I'm excited for this next chapter

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have so many qualities that just make you

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Speaker 3: No, I'm excited to have some talks with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I want to be the biggest gentleman ever.

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Speaker 5: He looks like it right now. What a stud lace.

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Speaker 3: Like I didn't realize it. Like people are serious when

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Speaker 2: The poop calms down after about two months. It's a

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Speaker 2: was like, how is it? Every time we look in there,

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Speaker 3: I think something that's not talked about a lot though,

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Speaker 4: I said, that sounds amazing. Think about if that's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I didn't bother breastfeeding one of the.

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Speaker 3: You know, I see why. I know.

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Speaker 2: Oh we can have a total honesty. How I love

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Speaker 2: So like what do I do when I have to

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Speaker 2: just like, I guess you're like, do you come with

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Speaker 3: I did that once.

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Speaker 2: And then when he's like a little bit bigger, you know,

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Speaker 2: But at least that way, you like HAVEM on you

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Speaker 2: and you're able to go about that's a little tit

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Speaker 5: All right, to close up here, lace, I lied, I

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Speaker 5: do have a more question. You're only five days into this,

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Speaker 4: Do you ever see yourself going on television again?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 4: No, okay, deal, that's all I needed.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I don't I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: No hesitation there, right, that was like a solid no.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just like thinking like probably not with

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Speaker 4: Oka, that's fair, Lace, we wish the best.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I'm sure you've gotten a ridiculous amount of

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Speaker 5: stuff sent to you. But The Almost Famous Podcast would

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Speaker 5: list now that you have started to operate in this

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Speaker 4: Robot that could do all these things with me.

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Speaker 5: Just let us know we want to send you something,

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Speaker 5: so we'll uh yeah, we'll have one of the we'll

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Speaker 5: reach out to you. But wishing the best. Congratulations. Seriously,

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Speaker 5: this is a big deal, a beautiful baby. You're gonna

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Speaker 5: I want to say, like I wish you the best

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Speaker 5: Uh you know whatever good means there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did to that And if you need

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Speaker 2: I'm here for you.

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Speaker 4: You do, Ashley, you like talking about this stuff.

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Speaker 5: Hey, this has been the Almost Famous podcast. We promise

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Speaker 5: you'd interview with Lace again five days after the birth

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Speaker 5: of her son Liam, and well, we gave it to you.

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Speaker 5: We keep our commitments here. So until next time, I've

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Speaker 5: been Ben, I've.

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Speaker 2: Been, Ashley and Lacey, you've been what perfect? Bye?

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